I completely concur.  Healthy debate is important.  We don't all have to agree, and I don't think that any of us have changed our original positions. The noteworthy thing through all of this discussion is that even though we got heated, no one ever got disrespectful.  That happens so frequently online b/c  folks can hide behind a fake name and their computer.  I recently read a negative review on the Crowes and the comments that followed said review were astonishing....very low brow "you're an effin' this and that."  I'm so happy to see that's not the case here.