You guys have not got the full story on this situation.  This has got 100% completely blown out of perportion from word of mouth.  All we were doing was talking about situations or actions that one could do to get kicked out of the guild.  This action was ONE of the actions that got brought up.  We never were going to kick ohnoez or even talk to him about it cause we have never heard of any people from that PUG saying anything about it.  But before we even finished our talk someone went to ohnoez and said people in the guild thaought he was a ninja which as i would have done the same he  got upset and left.  Dreadwind and spoiled have went and talked to him saying that this is not what anyone wanted and his response was he felt to uneasy at this time to come back.  This was a case of people taking a conversation and twisting it.  Although we do need to set some rules and I have no regrets that we had that topic of conversation going.  It just sucks that it got used to upset a person making them leave the guild.   And just for all you info we never even named anyone in the orginal post we just said if someone ninjaed the hide would that be grounds for removal.