Personally I like some of these guys I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting epics I know we all do and that is why we do 20 mans, (and the reason we want epics is to get better gear to see more endgame content and make the runs we are doing easier and more fun) I would like to see us give some of these guys a chance. My personal goal for the past few months was to become exalted with cc and get my set of unending life...(obviously this may have sounded shallow to people but at least i had a focus and an endgame) I dont expect to be best friends with everyone we bring into the guild but I do want a group of guys that are nice non annoying and fun to play with. You guys can do what you want with voting but I wanted to put my prospective in as well. I have much respect for you all, and consider you my friends I just want to see FSE thrive.
I know you guys are doing your best to find the right people to move fse forward but i dont think the desire for epics should be a label that is negative I think it is all our desire to some degree
(stepping off soap box)