In regards to a little thread on the Bad Touch guild website...  :

It's good to see The Bad Touch feel similarly to some of us in this. The shortsightedness of a few negative responses will represent most of the types of players we feel kind of yucky cooperating with for our rewards. In this, there might come a message of "chill out, geek-prones" to those who see us take the road to AQ. 

[color=yellow:853828142b]For the record, Bad Touch and ADR are the happier, more adult-like faction of our alliance with No Cow Level. In fact, they're mostly the reason for our being part of that alliance, as we were invited to their joint events via Bad Touch. If ever they bring up the notion that they'd like to do something differently apart from No Cow Level, I hope to have us stand with Bad Touch and ADR in every case. There are players in the Bad Touch that I personally call friend, and enjoy grouping with.[/color:853828142b]


Even if it means sacrficing unspent dkp and not going to Molten Core. Our choice to participate elsewhere will of course cause some bitterness in our immature counterparts, but it will also potentially deliver a message that they may be able to decipher about how to make MC runs something no one ever wants to miss. There are ways to make raids fun, even if you're wiping over and over, and they just don't possess the charisma (and some other elements) that allow for them to be capable of that. 

Many of us find the personalities of the No Cow Level players a bit hard to stomach, and that's very reasonable. I've never liked playing video games of any kind with a certain type of obnoxious kid.  I've stated openly that I play with this No Cow bunch for the chance at upgrades enabling my character to perform better in higher teir content and obtain knowledge about the encounters. One reason I "don't" play is because these guys are ideal comrades. It's a symbiotic thing! Don't get it twisted, we're being used by them every bit as much.

So, on Saturday, (and this is by no means an obligation) consider playing with Bad Touch and ADR in their activity over Molten Core. Their wives pack pic-a-nic baskets, while no cow's girlfriends are chain smoking during lunch break.  :)

Bad Touch/ADR =  Fun. I'd sit down and have a few drinks with some of these folks.

No Cow = Tolerable to a degree for the rewards, but very much not fun. No beers. Sometimes I need some wine while playing with them though.

I hope I've been clear! Posts like these are like firecrackers sometimes! This post is soaked in Dreadwindian opinions and ideals, and by no means represents any official view of the guild as a whole!