I didn't even know/remember that nissan187 is Viviann!  And I guess I just passed on through the signature in his post. lol  I hate to see so many moving on in different directions.  Anyway, I can understand where you're coming from Jyggs; the guild is a special thing between you guys.  And as always, Dread, I appreciate you posting your thoughts.  Here's to hoping things pick up a bit after the evil summer months pass us by!