I'm sorry to hear you feel this way.  I know I have often times felt &quot;left out&quot; of &quot;the group&quot; too, so I know how it feels.  For me, though, it's my awful work schedule - not anyone or any group of people I can point a finger at.  When I log on and five in the guild are already in an instance, I guess I feel kinda' left out though, so I can understand.  Or people are running kara while I'm stuck at work - it's hard.  I enjoy running with the guild and I feel a kinship with so many members, and even the guild itself.  I appreciate it when people take the extra time to make others who can't be there feel a part, though, by the &quot;disposition posts.&quot;

As so many others who have already posted, I made it to 70 mainly on quests, working alone in the dead of night.  (As I'm sure you're aware, I mainly work night shift and sleep during the day, even on my days off.)  I did run a handful of instances on my way to 70, one or two of which were with guildies and several others with &quot;guildie fillers,&quot; but other than that I just quested on my own, sometimes finding a few peeps to help with group quests. 

There have been a handful of times I was in a position where I really needed some help &quot;right now&quot; and it amazed me how many guildies actually dropped what they were in the middle of to come to my aid.  THIS is the kind of guild I see FSE as.  I asked for help when time was of the essence, such as a group that broke up on a last instance boss or something, and nothing which would take HOURS off someone's short or long term in-game goals.  But even so, it amazed me how people were willing to help.

I have, so many times, seen guildies post &quot;Anyone need anything?&quot;  Rarely do they get a response.  If a lot of peeps are like me they set little goals and &quot;go go go.&quot;  Whether you're asking for or offering help when you're on a role like that it's sometimes hard to drop what you're doing immediately.  I have found in the past that if something's set up, kind of planned, it's easier for peeps to join.  Back when I was running UBRS I remember getting lots of help when I'd mention several times throughout the day that there's gonna be an UBRS run at 7pm and ask for the message to be passed on.  Then those who would already be engaged in their own goals would more easily be able to find the time with a little bit of planning.

A few months back, when I made those &lt;cough&gt; informative posts about the Kara key chain I started working toward completing the chain.  At that time there were a handful with the chain nearly completed, many who weren't even at a point in the game they were going to start worrying about the adventure, and a few people who were in the same place as I was.

I pugged my way through about 90% of that chain, and I see two reasons for that.  First, FSE is a hollow shell most of the time that I'm available to play with my current schedule.  Second, as I mentioned, there were only a few actively working on the chain at the time.  Though a few of us did team up here and there, rarely did our schedules, with work, families, etc., match up so we could pound through it as a unit.  Those who already had the key would swoop down now and again to help out, and that help was much appreciated.  But, I never expected them to constantly drop their game to help out.  I mean, if they were in a position to, cool!  If not, geez, there is so much more to continue to move on to.  Obtaining the heroic keys?  Man, what a pain!  And I'm just starting to run the heroic dungeons after all that.  Sheesh!

I just finished rep grinding in order to obtain the heroic keys.  I've pugged SO MANY of the 5 man instances over the last month it's ridiculous.  I've been lucky enough to join a few guild runs and have had many runs with at least one other guildie in the pug.  The pugs have been hit and miss - sometimes they're better than I could've hoped but lots of times they're a mess.  It just makes me appreciate more the times I'm able to run with guildies.  I can't tell you how many times I posted &quot;lfm&quot; messages in guild and fsebroken chat to both enlist assistance and hopefully help others who need the run but didn't receive a response.  I guess we just haven't been on during the same time periods.

My current big goal is to get to 5800 gp for my epic flyer.  That's as big a pain as anything else!  But I've been working hard enough that I've made it to 4800, and I've really been pushing for it.  Ever since I saw Meshach on his I've been salivating at the mouth for one of my own!

My point, I suppose, is that we all have goals.  I think people in FSE do help others out, but everyone has something specific they're working on and I don't think it's fair to ask them to give up their &lt;barf&gt; PvP, heroic runs, saving for gp, questing, etc. completely to give their all to the guild.  I think most help out here and there as they can, but usually when someone asks for something &quot;right now&quot; I think they're going to find that people are already in the middle of something.  &quot;Ask not what your guild can do for you...&quot; lol

I think it's up to us, as individuals, to do our part to contribute.  One thing I feel I did to contribute is way back when talk of running Kara started I dropped everything I had been working toward to get keyed so I could run with the guild when they started.  God what a pain in the ass!  i didn't even know what Kara WAS at the time, let alone that awful chain.  But I made it a priority so I could be available to help out when FSE started running.

One more thing, with regard to not receiving a response when actually asking for help in guild chat.  If there are 30 peeps online and every one of them responded with a reason why they can't help at the moment it'd fill up a chat window pretty quickly.  I try to read  those messages, though I sometimes miss them if I'm in an instance or something.  If I'm in a position to help I try to.  But if someone wants to run an instance and I'm going to be logging in 30 minutes I usually just don't respond, it seems eaiser.  I talk way too much as it is. :)  Not that I'm one of the better geared, or even better players in the guild mind you!

One thing I can say is that there was a period of time several months ago I was working day shift with days off which coincided with others'.  I was doing stuff with guildies a lot back then and really miss it.  I dunno if perhaps you partially have that same issue as well?  Perhaps times when you're on don't coincide with times when the biggest FSE population is online?  Just a thought I guess.  I don't recall seeing a lot of &quot;help requests&quot; from you in guild chat but that, again, is probably due to my schedule and I'm not on many times when you've posted or something.

We do have a pretty laid back thing going here.  Things inherently are a little less disciplined and organized in such an environment, but I do see all the work those leading the guild put in and appreciate it very much.