i agree that paople are leaving for dif. reasons. what can we do, we cant make EVERYONE happy ALL of the time. i for one am not the hard core gamer that wants to raid 5 days a week every week.3 days a week has been perfect for me. maybe others are impatiant and want to be in ony, mc, and bwl now, and be there every day. at the end of the day, why are we playing this game? what is your goal and how do you want to achieve it. if some one leaves becouse FSE's pace isn't fast enough for them, we either have to adjust to meet their needs or they are better off in one of those &quot;job like&quot; guilds that you are required to raid x amount of days per week. if they leave becouse we wouldn't play fair and let them tank, or they brought the ball and they're going home and telling their mommy! then we dont need them any way. if they leave a trail of F-U's! in their wake as they leave we ask our selves did we provoke that, or were they just a spoiled brat that didnt get their way.
 i say FSE is what it has always been, a bunch of guys and gals that play this game to have fun and escape the grind that is every day life. along the way we strive for better gear and better abilities. people that have joined in the past joined becouse of who we are, not becouse we became what they wanted us to be. the bad touch joined us, not the other way around (correct me if im wrong) it seems to me that most of them didnt mesh well with FSE,  i think thay thought they would come here and share leadership which was discussed wether or not any one was a good candidate  and they proved they were not.
 FSE remains! we are here! and we're not going any where, we may only have 30 members total, but it will be the close nit, respectfull freindly people that make this game what it is, FUN! if thats all FSE is than i am a happy shamman/ rogue/ preist/ mage..ah..this list could get long...........