(1189,'496a3e1662','','300 Enchanter\r\n      Tailor\r\n      Cooking\r\n      Fishing\r\n      First aid\r\n      Sheeping'),(1190,'5ed064b087','','I have in game expierence with this guy on an alt.  He was rude, and a loot hog when there were noobs in an rfc group.  He even went so far as to whisper my alt with his main after leaving the group in the middle of the instance.  He acted very childish and immature when doing a lowbie instance, I can only imagine what it will be like in zg or higher.'),(1191,'d434381467','','Thanks for the input!  I just wanted to ask any warr\'s again on another field of talent spec.  As I am nearly full prot now, i have seen how nice it can be in keeping me alive.  If i choose to respec for more dmg I will loose abilities such as last stand and imp shield block.  Any thoughts on ways to keep them and still get ms?'),(1192,'c477c6e27f','Hey warrior buddies','I have a few mods that you can get from curse-gaming that really help tanks.   One is called taunt buddy.  If your taunts are resisted it flashes to whole raid/part etc.  If you\'ve been in zg with me ot\'in im sure you\'ve seen it.  The other is somthing called tank points.  It basically rates the gear you have for tanking.  I have found it useful and it is accurate.  Enjoy :-)'),(1199,'366b05cf2e','','http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2863-1-taunt-buddy.html\r\n\r\nhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1365-1-tankpoints.html\r\n\r\nhope ur happy baeloc'),(1201,'b011a3bdbc','','pfft liez , i heard dreadwind has a quel and some other warrior too zomg. Youll need my mage to replace Baeloc....\r\n\r\nAnd the official release date of my internet is Saturday !!!  yayaya no friends no girl no food no work no sport only WoW ....'),(1194,'c18d9653ad','','We\'ve got too many warriors already, I vote no.'),(1195,'27a9d9f3e6','','Yes, please get it going.  The last thing we need is Shaman offtanking, Shaman are for heals!  DoY!'),(1196,'85152781c3','','[quote:85152781c3=\"Vamprix\"]300 Enchanter\r\n      Tailor\r\n      Cooking\r\n      Fishing\r\n      First aid\r\n      Sheeping[/quote:85152781c3]\r\n\r\nCome sheep with me!'),(1197,'92345f3702','','Links, I demand links!'),(1198,'a6725f8f44','','[quote:a6725f8f44=\"Zuwani\"]Prolly an old one, but still funny...\r\n\r\nhttp://thatvideosite.com/view/1792.html\r\n\r\n\r\nz[/quote:a6725f8f44]\r\n\r\nThat is quite possibly the greatest thing I have ever seen.'),(1202,'d12ad84a4d','','Thanks, I\'m just too lazy to search for stuff :)'),(1203,'bea37fe57e','','true we have too many warriors, but it gives the chance tp pick the best of best, or the best of what we\'ve got, but we can be very picky. intsead of picking someone just becouse they\'re good we can go for someone who is good and thoughtfull of guild needs.\r\n\r\n 2 weeks'),(1204,'36f306f4c2','','well....uh.....no. one liners, wierd play times 10pm-2am central. maybe its just me'),(1205,'21e419feee','','Chuck reading his own badassness was pretty funny'),(1206,'62a94c366e','','no, put ZERO effort into this.'),(1207,'d1ac3a2731','','ill back Caanon up on this one, I raided with him before, kind of an ass.  And speaking with Praetor about him they say he was kicked, not because their raids kept falling apart.'),(1208,'74649c382e','','/bump, re-hilite, what ever...\r\n\r\nFor the FSE Members both new and old, that do not know of this resource!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1209,'ec189e9e0b','','heh most of the guild doesn\'t even read the boards ;)'),(1210,'dce06861a7','grats','Im outta town right now, so i didnt get to see ya hit 60, but GRATS!!!!!So annoyed i wasnt on to see your reaction.  :P'),(1211,'227276f635','','For thoughs of us that do, we need to help spread the word!! This needs to be a key comunication tool.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1212,'16f32b2699','End game','Are we going to start keeping track of attunments/keys for end game instances.  I am hoping that mc isn\'t that far off :-)'),(1213,'849de05058','','My guess is that we would have to come up with a way to track this.  If we were to do it on the forum, then more people would have to start using it that arent now.'),(1214,'dab44b8e4d','','Left the guild 06/14/06.'),(1215,'35dfb86d46','Garbric\'s Application','[b:35dfb86d46]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:35dfb86d46] Currently unguilded, know a couple people in it\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Character Class/Style:[/b:35dfb86d46]  60 Mage\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Talent Build:[/b:35dfb86d46]  Frost but enough arcane to have instant explosion and evocation\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Gear:[/b:35dfb86d46]  Staff of Hale Magefire\r\nMooncloth Robe\r\nSorcerors Waist and wrist\r\nBonecreeper stylus\r\nCrimson Felt hat\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]MC Attuned:[/b:35dfb86d46]  No\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]BWL Attuned:[/b:35dfb86d46]  No\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Onyxia keyed:[/b:35dfb86d46]  No\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Sponsor:[/b:35dfb86d46]  Caanon\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:35dfb86d46]  9PM-12 or 1AM Eastern Time\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]What raid experience do you have?[/b:35dfb86d46]  Not much of any\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:35dfb86d46]  Brainstorm - Small guild of REal Life friends, merged into Behemoths\r\n\r\nBehemoths - Guild did no high end anything and the Guild Master went on a power trip and started throwing people out so i quit\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:35dfb86d46]  Damage (AoE)\r\nSheep\r\nWater\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:35dfb86d46]  4 or 5 months\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:35dfb86d46]  Herbalism 300\r\nEnchanting 265\r\n\r\nNone of my alts are above level 10 on this server\r\n\r\n[b:35dfb86d46]What is your goal ingame?[/b:35dfb86d46]  Have fun, get good gear, find and camp certain Allies who angered me'),(1216,'df1e950a1a','','I\'ve known Garbric for a while now.  He\'s a quality player and a good friend of mine.  I think he\'ll make a good addition to FSE.'),(1217,'339508c3dd','all good to me','Looks good plus mages we are in need of as seen in our zg runs, so ill give him a yes.'),(1218,'df597eb774','','mages good, app could use some work but we are in need of a few more mages yes, and caanon vouches and i believe we\'z gotta start givin new members a chance to learn and burn as you will when it comes to recruiting most of us got in because we where someones friend  \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nDa Uda says give him 2 weeks to show us why we mussant /gkick   :)'),(1219,'6a1e3fc024','','Nope\r\n\r\nJerk\r\n\r\nthinks he\'s supa cool\r\n\r\n\r\nbut he be not'),(1220,'68051c4e9a','','i say we need ahkcs 2 cents he be backin this or not????\r\n\r\n\r\nI NEED ANSWERS, LOUD NOISES   :)'),(1221,'be2de7aa99','','so this is  a perfect chance for me to voice my fears.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them? On Braxis, I started here on Problematic, mostly a group of friends. It eventually died out. I eventually joined Infeste Nex for a brief period of time but directly afterward had to leave WoW for RL reasons, and I timed out there. I didn\'t have the chance to raid with them. I then joined V E A N G E A N C E which was a remake of Problematic, but decided I\'d rather keep my Shaman there and move my warrior on to other guilds.\r\n\r\nThen, I joined Absolute with my friend Foraga. We ran ZG a couple times on a run to the tiger boss, and I\'d never wiped so often in my life. The guild eventually merged with Outkast into what is now Dominatus. I decided not to stick around.\r\n\r\nI then joined The Uruk Hai most recently, and although it posessed some good players, it was a bit quiet most times and not too active. The friends I brought along thought the same thing, so they left. I\'ve recently left as well. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSkuurrrssss  me I think we have a Jumper... stand back from the ledge\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso has shammy in other guild not down with the idea if we fill a warrior spot with him and then have him spend his time in other guild\r\n\r\nSo i vote no'),(1222,'735341e316','','ok we have to realize that some of the new 60\'s have never seen a &quot;raiding&quot; or &quot;end game&quot; guild so they may mistake FSE for one :)  we are causal as we all know  but they may sell us to people as those above terms.  SO lets be understanding on that\r\n\r\n\r\nI believe we have enough Hunters for now and &quot;To chill&quot;  oh hell no  :)\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is no &quot;Chilling&quot; in FSE\r\n\r\n\r\nI vote no'),(1223,'55d953dc03','Sooooo I figured I would put in my 2 cents','I have been puttin my votage on apps i hope its ok?'),(1224,'29fc97086d','','From talking to people he has street cred (he\'s nice).  But still the application is a little lacking.\r\n\r\nI say yes.'),(1225,'dbefb64f8c','','Sure, why not.'),(1228,'d1a3d5f6d6','Farwell\'s Build','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxg0cVVoZfxtzc0V\r\n\r\nAny questions i am hear to answer'),(1229,'f63dbd5dc9','Uda\'s Build','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhecotcoZZVxVo0IR0o\r\n\r\nany questions why ask away'),(1230,'65e8801bcb','','Well to the suprise of most of you, I have decided to re-spec sooner than expected. Here it is:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warriors/talents.html?3000000000000000000500000000000000055255131500022151\r\n\r\nz'),(1231,'3181220c3d','','ill be ur friend zuwani , wanna have a cup of cofee tommorow ? play a bit of chess maybe ?'),(1232,'5f1ce51a19','','I dont know much about warriors (cept tanking Onyxia is a piece of cake), but wouldn\'t you want the 5 points in deflection?  That seems kinda huge to me.'),(1233,'a53d4612a0','','Man, I suck at chess. I like Cheese tho...And instead of Cofee, lets Pwn n00bs in STV! That\'ll be fun  :wink: \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1234,'a1b58bb98d','','For Rage generation I need to get smacked around good and hard once and a while. Plus I kinda like it, common man, you know that!! \r\n\r\numm, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1235,'cde17df772','','Actually it wasn\'t as bad as I thouhgt it would be. I cracked open a can of mountian dew and yelled &quot;Ding!&quot; on guild chat. I didn\'t run around screaming and banging on a gong like I planned... lol'),(1236,'0f69d241e7','','Only thing is Heroic Strike is just a Rage dump so talent points in it kinda a waste\r\n\r\nmy 2 cents'),(1237,'62649710bf','','2 weeks started as of 6/15'),(1238,'12d056d83d','','I can see your point Uda. I still have this Rage generation/conservation worry. In the event that I move to Battle stance with a two hander, Rage will become an issue. However Imp Taunt or Unbridled Wrath may have been a better choice…we will see!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1239,'cf48be1cd8','','need test of skulls at this point if you still need it.'),(1241,'9ac4d90dd6','','Lets make it a saturday night date then , that way ill have the internet ! Female or Male ? i can play both ....\r\n\r\nand i want a big party when i get back online!!! like everyone should be there...well maybe not shy....but everyone else\r\nWe could have chocolat cake and stay up late and watch cartoonz'),(1242,'c32cb13c25','','I dont know about you guys but whenever I think of the words &quot;Hazardous waste management&quot; I think of blueberry pancakes.  Than again I think of blueberry pancakes when I hear many things.\r\n\r\nHi Itchy.  Get the internet.  It is full of usefull information.  ig: [url]http://www.recipehound.com/Recipes/4641.html[/url]'),(1245,'109493c43f','Noobs','Be glad that none of our applicants have asked any of these questions:\r\n\r\n&quot;i just started to playing the world of warcraft yesterday and i was in stromwind city and i saw a guy that was at the level 60. where do i go to get to that level kuz i keep dying from those wolves in the starting zone so i need to be level 60 to beat them. and he also had a cool glowy staff...where do i get the glowy staff? the one that i play on is a human warrior i made this saman and i dont no how to post on the warrior&quot;\r\n\r\nhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&amp;t=8725494&amp;p=1&amp;tmp=1#post8725494'),(2196,'ddd35e1002','','Well, Meshach has been raiding with some players who\'ve had some success against bosses who gave us some violent opposition. I\'m interested to see what secrets he and Temblor have uncovered that may perhaps enable us to see such popular villains as Arlokk and her tiger loving friend thrash about while trying to hold their entrails in.\r\n\r\nThe control over the pick-up aspect of the raid will be the most important factor. If we can maintain some semblance of decency and class in the randoms we get, we can keep the atmosphere of the entire raid fun. Fun enough that everyone wants to stay, and word of the success spreads to those who didn\'t go and may want to another time. Hopefully we don\'t hire the type of player to make us grit our teeth and go searching for the pen, paper, and nail gun.\r\n\r\nI\'ll hope to be available for some raunchy action that night and help with Dreadwind.'),(1246,'75b4e97673','','ROFL, thats all i gotta say ROFL'),(1247,'8ec8da1161','ZG raid hours','so this post is concerning raid times for ZG. i myself would LOVE it if our Wednesday night raid invite wouldnt start until 6:30 server time instead of 6. i dont get out of work until 6 server time most wednesdays.  i know the times are set for what works for the majority of the guild, but if times stay where they are I wont hardly ever make it to a raid.  I can only make it to every 3rd sunday run because i work from 10 server time to 4 server time.  and this coming up sunday would work cause i only get every 3rd sunday off and.. well... this coming up raid i saw was canceled.  so maybe by starting this thread we can find out what times work for everyone.  \r\nmy gauranteed times to work are M-F 6:30 (server time) until whenever, saturday 4:30 (server time) until whenever, and sunday 3:30 (server time) until whenever. i really have enjoyed this guild and i dont want to have to look into another guild whos raid runs work for me.  but at the same time i dont want to be stuck at a certain point without be able to improve myself'),(1248,'9d4240ba66','','My vote is no as well.  He has been in a few guilds which isnt a problem but his reasons for leaving are.  He was too good for one and the others wouldnt help.... I smell another elite'),(1249,'1a34871fd1','','If people have had problems with him then it is an obvious no'),(1250,'d8387eb913','','Well I was gonna vote no but that is what everyone else is doing. so i vote........... ah shit ill vote no too'),(1251,'3e7c8aa449','','Vote It never hurts to have anothers 2 cents even if uda\'s 2 cents is canadian money'),(1252,'4464cc1053','','*sigh*\r\n\r\nI balme the school system...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1253,'3254c715b0','Warmaki\'s post.','1. It\'s inspired by his finding out Mandolir\'s Sting dropped, and he wasn\'t there to try for it. Selfish. \r\n\r\n2. All he does is whine for help getting either his main\'s gear, or for someone to take his Fuzzynips alt through an instance for him. Selfish.\r\n\r\n3. He\'s enjoyed this guild, but considers moving to another guild if we don\'t adjust our raid start time for him? Selfish.\r\n\r\n\r\nSummary: Good riddance. May another guild help him better than we have.'),(1254,'61ee6a03b8','','I was pondering writting a post just like this!\r\n\r\nI totaly agree. \r\nI picked up a threat in there too! LOL whatever...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1255,'5001ea32df','','Well with the new and improved FSE I think adding additional raids (slowly) is something we are obviously are going to be doing so that in itself should solve some problems for people that can\'t make current raid times.  (I know I have had similar problems with some of the raid times once and a while)\r\n\r\nBut, the way I look at it is if  there are enough people showing up for the current raid time (and it seemed like there were MORE than enough this last week) then that raid time is good where it is and probably shouldn\'t be moved.   If it ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it or some such thang.\r\n\r\nHopefully more opportunities for raid times will open up and give some flexibility for those of us whose schedules don\'t mesh currently.'),(1256,'8bb4134a9b','','I see where you\'re coming from and I got nothing against the guy or much for him for that matter...and it might just be frustration talking at not making the raid for a couple of weeks.\r\n\r\nI tried to post the other side of the story without smacking him i the face with the truth about how his post sounded selfish but maybe see if he gets the hint?  \r\n\r\nIf he can\'t pick up what I\'m puttin\' down,  to the curb I say!'),(1257,'b8810eccd7','','[quote:b8810eccd7=\"Itchiz\"]Lets make it a saturday night date then , that way ill have the internet ! Female or Male ? i can play both ....\r\n\r\nand i want a big party when i get back online!!! like everyone should be there...well maybe not shy....but everyone else\r\nWe could have chocolat cake and stay up late and watch cartoonz[/quote:b8810eccd7]Just for that I will be on to talk a bunch of crap to you!!!! And talk a bunch of crap about you!'),(1258,'879e672884','Riryoku\'s week of torturous tennis camp','Yeah, just to say right off...i can\'t spell AT ALL, so i\'m not sure about torturous or torturious...Whatever, back to business! I\'m just letting everyone know that i\'m leaving on the 18th, and will be gone for ONE WHOLE WEEK!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  But i will be playing tennis all day, non-spot for 5 or 6 days...even before breakfast. So i\'m not sure if i\'ll make it back alive.  :twisted:  Sooo, just made sure ya\'ll knew. Talk to ya\'ll later.'),(1259,'1ec479d885','','You will fit in just fine on these here forums, bad spelling and all! Thanks for the update and have fun!! I must say that if your doing anything before breakfast, it should be checking the fourms, AH or porn...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1260,'886fd53491','','[quote:886fd53491=\"Zuwani\"]You will fit in just fine on these here forums, bad spelling and all! Thanks for the update and have fun!! I must say that if your doing anything before breakfast, it should be checking the fourms, AH or porn...\r\n\r\n\r\nz[/quote:886fd53491]\r\n\r\nWhat do you do with the porn?'),(1261,'b7f6a3602f','','holy hell! i put &quot;non-spot&quot; instead of &quot;non-stop&quot;... ima retard! DUURR! I also won\'t have a computer of any sorts, this is a kind of...how shall i say it.. forceful tennis camp, =P but i shall return non the less, and i think brendrelon is going also... not sure. oh yea, many of the new people that came from TBT know each other IRL, heres the list:\r\nAnibus is my friend...( kind of strange if you ask me), Mesoko is my brother (stranger than Anibus strange), and Brendrelon is my buddy (also in my same grade, a littel weird not to bad though) I also know some others not in our guild but yea... don\'t know if needed or wanted to know that but had to tell you, get it out of the way. so again ill be gone for one week , computerless and broken! lol Talk to ya\'ll later.'),(1262,'f91a5c43f6','45 min Strat...','Just wanted to poll who needs 45 min Start run besides me (Viviann).. :?:'),(1263,'b7c3b8e271','For Guild Removal: Kenahurac (sp)','Ok, while I don\'t have the chat log to point out the type of demeanor we\'re dealing with, I know some council members and officers were present.\r\n\r\nThis guy can\'t make the cut. He\'s far too young, and far too great of a fool. I call him &quot;guy&quot; but I could very well be meaning 12 year old boy by his behavior. \r\n\r\nHe is a horrible represenative for what we try to stand as, and he\'s a frequent pick up group runner. People will see him, watch him, and say &quot;This is FSE&quot;. \r\n\r\nI\'d be happy to see him out of our guild. Time to come down hard on some of these rejects, my friends.'),(1264,'706b91b1a7','','He\'s not even fully guilded as far as I know.  I thought we were basically waiting for his 2 weeks to be over, but yeah I say kick him too.'),(1265,'842c050874','Hey there!','I just wanted to say that you guy and the ladies are awesome!!!!!  :D'),(1266,'e5425987f5','','300 engineering\r\n300 dragonscale leatherworking  got a decent amount of dragonscale patterns so far.\r\n\r\nif you\'re looking for something specific, ask me.'),(1267,'17430cd8ac','','Maghanya, I like your enthusiasm. :)'),(1268,'953d73f0da','','Well, while I was optimistic from the application (I must have been in a real good mood), his behavior has proved an embarrassment. He may do better in a younger guild.'),(1269,'5c1fa61e94','','This whole thing saddens me.  I posted askin for a post just like this on other times that would be best for all,  but you felt it was the best coarse of action to complain and attack people and include people that never needed to be.  The funny thing is 6:30 maybe a time that works best for most I know it would for me, Baeloc, Shabbaz, Gnome, Zuwani and Warmaki.  Yet Maki I am saddened and all I have to say is maybe I have been wrong!'),(1270,'9ddfe49246','','He missed one\r\n\r\nI missed one\r\n\r\nGnome has missed all but one\r\n\r\nRL can suck at times\r\n\r\nBut attackin me in tells, attackin Ohnoez for accepting my invite, and sending Xanar to pop off in Guild.  NO EXCUSE\r\n\r\nFunny thing is I want it to 6:30 it would be better for me I threw out a time and asked for feedback, not a avalanche of tells on why this that or the other thing.  \r\n\r\nBlah I hate being GL somedays\r\n\r\nRight now Maki and Xanar are on a short leash with me..... We shall see'),(1271,'72a3caa987','','I am torn.  I baited the DPS talk, most of you know how I can get.  I think he is young.  &quot;Not what we want to carry FSE\'s name&quot; is a tuff one for me.  If i had my way I would kick a myriad of members.   So I am torn.   I accept the  decision of the Officers/Council on this, but I plead we can\'t start using this power for evil or am I gonna want to carry the FSE name?'),(1272,'16f3cc1d27','','http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warriors/talents.html?3500500100000000000000000000000000055250113530000151\r\n\r\nhere\'s what ive been using.  not that different, just a few tweaks :-)'),(1273,'4f72c9ffb9','','I say lets get these questions added.  I agree we need more info   MORE DOTS\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSTOP DOTS'),(1274,'3f04575e8e','','btw.... im curious to see how dread is spec\'d'),(1275,'4f05a3f616','','Turtles build not that happy with it as of late but figured i should show it\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?TVZxxzZEVxcx00qo'),(1276,'0cbcbb494c','Raid Schedule','so ZG for two days its about time and then i think we need to add a thir scheduled raid day and it should be AQ20\r\n\r\n\r\nso pick somedays and times that work I figure we have like 1-2 days to finalize this and get it out.'),(1277,'cdd56e68cd','Some ZG Boss fight info','Mar’li – Spider Aspect:\r\n\r\nThis fight can be quite difficult as Mar’li moves around, hits hard and needs to be handled in a certain way.\r\n\r\nFirst of all – make sure all partymemebers have a greater nature resist potion, as she will deal AE poison damage.\r\nAfter clearing the area, you should have MT run in and start tanking Mar’li where she is standing. Her praying add should be offtanked and killed asap. Mar’li will immediately spawn 4 spiders which will grow fast and do increasing damage. She will spawn these once in a while through the whole fight, so make sure you have some people ready to kill them. Kill the add and the spiders. Everyone (means EVERYONE) then needs to go into melee range of Mar’li except for the offtank.. He will place himself around 15-20 yards away doing ranged damage. (place him where you were before enganging Mar’li)\r\nMar’li will once in a while shift to a giant spider and AE web everyone around her. She will then attack partmembers NOT webbed, in this case the offtank because he was out of range. While webbed, no one should do any damage at all. Sporadic healing is allowed. When the web wears off everyone should run down to the offtank in melee range of Mar’li, leaving the maintank behind to be ready to get aggro when she webs next. If done correctly she will run back and forth between the two tanks, leaving the rest of the party alone. (this needs some practice, so don’t give up)\r\nWhile in humanoid form she will deal melee damage to the main tank, and do an AE poison which really hurts. Have all shamans/druids remove poisons as fast as possible. She will also do lifedrain which needs to be dispelled VERY fast. Silence, earthshock, shieldbash, kick etc. works.\r\n\r\nOther than that, it’s DPS, DPS and nature resist.\r\n\r\n\r\nHigh Priest Thekal the Tiger Aspect:\r\n\r\nThis fight is much like Golemagg+Corehound Pack in Molten Core.\r\n\r\nHave the maintank tank Thekal while 2 offtanks pull one add each. The adds need to be pull very far to each side (as they will heal eachother). Now whats really important now is to deal equal damage to all 3 opponents as the need to die within 10 sec. of eachother.\r\nThe best way to do this is to lower Thekal\'s HP to 5% first, then divide the party into two damagegroups which then kill the two adds at the same time, then finish off the boss.\r\nHe does a nasty mortal-strike which deals massive damage to the tank, so make sure you have lots of healing on him/her.\r\n\r\nAfter you kill all 3 of them, thekal will then respawn in his tiger form. Main tank should have some time to gain aggro before starting full DPS.\r\nIn this form the boss does and AE knockback which deals around 500 damage to all in the area. He should not be tough to kill if your healers are awake.\r\n\r\n\r\nHigh Priestess Arlokk the Panther Aspect.\r\n\r\nThis is in theory a simple task. (although hard to complete)\r\n\r\nHave everyone stand by the Gong. The main tank should place himself in the middle of the room, and 1 offtank should be placed on each side close to the hay lying in the east and west side.\r\n\r\nWhen you use the gong, the Arlokk will spawn in the back of the room, and run directly towards the party. The maintank intercepts her, and starts DPSing her. After a VERY short time ALL melee and damage-casters should start doing DPS on her.\r\n\r\nBy the hay panthers will start spawning. They should be picked up by the offtanks. These panthers will spawn constantly. They do not do a lot of damage, but eventually there will be loads of them. Keep the off-tanking warriors inside the panther spawning point, while keeping all casters close to the gong. This way they will stay with the tank and not aggro anyone, including the marked person. Do not use the AE advice above as the panthers will stay with the offtanks even when you heal them through the whole fight\r\n\r\n\r\nAfter 10-15 seconds Arlokk will mark a random player in the party and all the panthers will now attack this person. Have as much healing going on this person as possible.\r\n\r\nAfter a few minutes Arlokk will stealth, leaving you with the panthers. Use this time to AE/single kill as many as possible.\r\nWhen she reenters visibility the maintank should gain aggro as fast as possible, and DPS should follow pretty fast. The panthers will now spawn twice as fast.\r\nShe will, if not killed, enter stealth once each 2-3 minutes, and each time the spawn rate on the panthers will rise.\r\n\r\nSo this fight is about healing and DPS. When she is low on HP, have the warriors fear the panthers once in a while, taking the heat off the healers.\r\n\r\nHakkar\r\n\r\nTo be able to kill Hakkar you\'ll need to kill the 5 Aspects in ZG, as he will be way to hard to kill if you do not. He will have the following abilities if they\'re NOT killed:\r\n\r\nJeklik - 1200-2000 AoE damage + 8s silence.\r\nVenoxis - 800 damage poison to the raid.\r\nMar\'li - 6 second stun and complete aggro reset.\r\nThekal - Enrages, increasing attack speed by 150%.\r\nArlokk - 2 second Gouge (aggro wipes the main tank)\r\n\r\nSo make sure you kill the 5 aspects before trying Hakkar!!\r\n\r\n\r\nClear the way up the stairs of the temple, and clear the middle level for humanoids all the way around. (Right and left side) Be carefull as the Sons of Hakkar (the flying snake-alike things) will spawn within 30 seconds.\r\n\r\nWhen the area is cleared have everyone stand infront of Hakkar out of aggro range.\r\nBefore enganging have 2-3 rogues (some use hunters, but it seems a waste of damage on Hakkar) ready to run down the stairs and pull a Son of Hakkar up to the rest of the group. They should do this 20 seconds into the fight.\r\nThe fight itself is quite easy. The only person in melee range should be the maintank. Everyone else needs to go ranged.\r\n\r\nHakkar uses a disease attack which is contagious and will spread to eveyone close, so keep your distance. (if you don\'t it will spread, and make you wipe as it can\'t be removed).\r\n\r\nEvery 45 seconds Hakkar will stun everyone and do a life drain. If this happens he will heal loads of %, and leave the party almost dead. To prevent this have the rogues (again, you can use the hunters) fetch a Son of Hakkar from the middle floor of the temple - pull it into the group and kill it. It will let out a poisoncloud and everyone in the group should place themselves in the middle of this cloud.\r\nWhen Hakkar then uses his lifedrain, he will drain the poison instead and take loads of damage.\r\nKeep having the rogues (or hunters) run back and forth getting the Sons of Hakkar and make sure everyone gets poisoned. Keep the maintank alive, and Hakkar is a piece of cake.\r\n\r\nAFTER NEWEST PATCH - THIS IS THE BEST IDEA YET\r\n\r\n3 warriors tanking...more the better.\r\nRaid spread out, have mages spread out equally in the whole raid so nobody is out of sheep-range.\r\n\r\nTell your warriors to go all out from the beginning, his current target will get most rage due to getting hit but the other warriors need to stay above healers threat, otherwise he\'ll go for the healers as soon as the first tank gets mindcontrolled.\r\nUse all cooldowns ASAP as a warrior.\r\nAfter the 1st mindcontrol start DPS.\r\nEach 1 minute and 30 seconds Hakkar will drain life, make sure you kill a son of hakkar before that time and have everyone collapse to get the poison (except perhaps 1/2 tanks) then get back to their original position.\r\n\r\nEvery 10 seconds (or even less) he will mindcontrol the current tank and switch to his target second on the threatlist (hopefully a tank ^^), keep tanks at maximum HP and sheep the mindcontrolled tanks. All mages focus on the sheeping, the MC\'d tank runs fast and might run out of sheep-range due to a spread out raid. As soon as mindcontrol fades have your sheep whisper the &quot;main dispeller&quot; (in our case a paladin) who will dispell the sheep*NOTE*\r\n\r\nAlso - have your warriors use their fear at all times. It won\'t work on Hakkar, but having CD on it when you get mindcontrolled is quite good. That way you won\'t mess up the raid.\r\n\r\n\r\nGahz\'ranka\r\n\r\nThis giant hydra is spawned in the water northeast of the temple of Hakkar.\r\n\r\nWhat you need to do is to get the quest -Nat\'s Measuring Tape- http://www.thottbot.com/?qu=8227 by the rubble placed down by the water behind the temple of Hakkar. It is guarded by some croc\'s, but they\'re not very hard to get rid of.\r\n\r\nThe quest will bring you to dustwallow marsh, coord 58.59 where you are to give Nat his measuring tape back. He will then tell you how to lure Ghaz\'ranka out into the open so you can kill it.\r\n\r\nYou\'ll then recieve some fishing equipment, and in ZG you\'ll need to fish in several different places to recieve enough bait to lure Ghaz\'ranka. I think you need at least 300, even 350 in your fishing skill to complete this quest.\r\n\r\nGhaz\'ranka has a few abilities worth mentioning.\r\n\r\nAoE knockback : Knocks everyone in a large radius not back, but up into the air.\r\n\r\nFrost breath: Does a frontal AE frost breath which deals a few hundred points of damage.\r\n\r\nGhaz\'ranka is easily defeated. Make sure you clear the water from aggressive fish before you summon the hydra. When summoned have the whole raid enter the water. When Ghaz\'ranka makes it\'s AE Knockback/up everyone will land back in the water, not taking damage from the fall. If you fight it on the ground, people will easily recieve 500-800 damage from the fall.\r\nJust have the MT build up some aggro, and from there it\'s just straight forward with damage. \r\n\r\nThe Edge of Madness\r\n\r\nThe Edge of Madness is an area with one of 4 possible bosses. It\'s the area after Mar\'li with loads of Imps (tip: enslave them for amazing DPS). You\'ll have to have an Alchemist learn the recipie for Gurubashi Mojo Madness, which is located on the big stone tablet here behind the Brazier of Madness.\r\n\r\nUse the Mojo Madness on the Brazier of Madness to summon one of the 4 bosses - every 2 weeks during the maintainance, 1 boss will rotate in (coming &quot;closer&quot; to our realm) and one boss will rotate out (receding from our realm).\r\n\r\nThe 4 bosses are Gri\'lek, Wushoolay, Renataki and Hazza\'rah. You need to kill them to complete the voodoo dolls for the class trinkets available in Zul\'Gurub:\r\n\r\nDruid: Wushoolay\'s Charm of Nature ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51985 )\r\nHunter: Renataki\'s Charm of Beasts ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51978 )\r\nMage: Hazza\'rah\'s Charm of Magic ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51979 )\r\nPaladin: Gri\'lek\'s Charm of Valor ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51982 )\r\nPriest: Hazza\'rah\'s Charm of Healing ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51980 )\r\nRogue: Renataki\'s Charm of Trickery ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51987 )\r\nShaman: Wushoolay\'s Charm of Spirits ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51986 )\r\nWarlock: Hazza\'rah\'s Charm of Destruction ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51984 )\r\nWarrior: Gri\'lek\'s Charm of Might ( http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51977 )\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nDon\'t know if it helps but more info is good in my book'),(1278,'f33d3b4f03','','So I thought I had some creative ideas but really I\'m as dumb as the come folks but these might help keep a couple problems from creeping up. \r\n\r\nFor those that don\'t use these forums...I think it\'d be nice to have an idea of how willing they are to check them.\r\n\r\n1)  Are you willing to check forums and if so how often? \r\n\r\nSo we don\'t gain any DKP whiners:\r\n2)  Do you understand what a DKP system is and do you agree with using one during raid events?\r\n\r\n\r\n3)  TP:  Crumple or fold? Explain your reasoning. (too personal?  I bet FBI profilers this is the primary question they ask!)'),(1279,'e3f561cc24','','One thing comes to mind, Internet Connection.'),(1280,'9e7c15d221','','I will be glad to add more questions.  I just need a list of questions to add from Udazhi.'),(1281,'1ef999a33b','','he does not quite understand the roll of a warrior.'),(1282,'d143b78142','','I find it quite repulsive.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1283,'75e8fadaf4','',':)'),(1284,'32fb15241b','','[quote:32fb15241b]Just for that I will be on to talk a bunch of crap to you!!!! And talk a bunch of crap about you![/quote:32fb15241b]\r\n\r\nLEAVE GORLOK MARRY ME COME LIVE IN THE BEAUTIFULL BARREN WASTES OF THE COLD NORTH !!! (  Montreal )'),(1285,'63c19e9596','','Tuesday ZG:\r\nInvite 6:00\r\n\r\nThursday AQ 20:\r\nInvite 6:30\r\n\r\nSunday ZG:\r\nInvite 6:00\r\n\r\n\r\nI must agree with Temb\'s post, We had at least 30 members on line and willing to run ZG at one point last Wednesday.  6:00pm Server time works for the majority of the group. I propose a 6:30 invite time for the AQ run just because.\r\n\r\nAlso I am gonna make an observation here. Even though we have more warriors than we need, we are still lacking \'usefull\' ones...The last ZG run showed that. So if there is any way we could get Gnome to more of these runs...that would be great...Uda.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1286,'9c8a784f6d','','Wow Uda you are a hella good typer man...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1287,'4e9a2e9744','','only prob with that schedule Zuw is we are back to having a reset between ZG runs and we need to get two days on same instance i believe'),(1288,'385f91f79f','Apakar\'s Application','[b:385f91f79f]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:385f91f79f] Ive seen tehre cahracters and ive talked to some that were pretty funny and my fruend said that its a new pve end game guild so i want ot try it out..\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Character Class/Style:[/b:385f91f79f]  60 tauren warrior who likes to get down and dirty. i love going out and partying i love hte hunnies .....\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Talent Build:[/b:385f91f79f]  my build is currently 34/5/12 so any warriors who want to check that that would be cool i am also a good body builder as u no im a tauren so i love the weight room. (if needed i cna go prot)\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Gear:[/b:385f91f79f]  helm of valor ,valor spaulders ,legionare breastplate, immovable object,silentfang, unstopable force\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]MC Attuned:[/b:385f91f79f]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]BWL Attuned:[/b:385f91f79f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Onyxia keyed:[/b:385f91f79f]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Sponsor:[/b:385f91f79f]  i dont have a sponsor but im so cool i dont ned one,, jk\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:385f91f79f]  mostly all the time now that im off for the next 2 months . whenever needed to raid boom im there .\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]What raid experience do you have?[/b:385f91f79f]  I have gone all the way through RAG in MC and Iv\'e completed zg a few times ive done ONY and hope to do it some more.\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:385f91f79f]  i was part of H E L. i didnt leave my brother got on my guy got on probation and quit the guild. =P\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:385f91f79f]  I fill in teh talkative one and i like to have conversations i dont like boring guilds.....!\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:385f91f79f]  about 12 months and i am going to continue ot play!\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:385f91f79f]  my professions is 300 enchanting/ 300 skinning i can get skinning up so we can skin the BIG ONES\r\n\r\n[b:385f91f79f]What is your goal ingame?[/b:385f91f79f]  my goal is to have a fun guild that makes ZG AQ MC ONY and  BWL a fun raiding experience...'),(1289,'df3c0ee9cf','','Why dont we just clear every run...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1290,'9a5b6bf6ea','','I foresee much third person conversation with this one...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1291,'13a131e640','','Sooooo mannnnyyy warrrrrriorrssss.\r\n\r\nFor some reason I remember this guy being in Archimonde Death Reavers for a while too.  I could be wrong though.  \r\n\r\nWe need other classes, we could prolly do a full 20 man warrior group if we really tried.'),(1292,'8458201c4c','','Just talked to him and says he wasn\'t in ADR.  Though he is in Clothing Optional now which he didn\'t list or say why he was leaving them.  \r\n\r\nThe question about his place in a raid/group wasn\'t answered at all, just says he spams guild chat (there\'s already 1 Baeloc in this guild!).\r\n\r\nNo, no I say!'),(1293,'af62dd2ff2','','Fair enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nNo Vote.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1294,'7ab1e3eb3a','','MAGAMANFROMRUSSIAWITHLOVE'),(1295,'309c4acac5','','ummmmmmmm\r\n\r\nI got nothing\r\n\r\n\r\nHey Zuw i think your Stam is increased by 10 and Int reduced by 10 for the next 10 minutes'),(1296,'8168bf5524','','Bounce, Bounce, Bounce, Bounce  worries me\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso for now I would vote to close Warrior recruiting untill we see what we have and need'),(1297,'38bd1aeedd','','I take a little vacation from WoW and all of the sudden Itchi is trying to steal my woman?  I have only one thing to say to that:\r\n\r\n[img:140:105:38bd1aeedd]http://www.thebalance.org/images/stfunoob.jpg[/img:38bd1aeedd]\r\n\r\nHurry up and get your internet back so we can tell you to stfu in game again.\r\n\r\n :D'),(1298,'acbf8e66aa','','I will be on as well, but not for itchi\'s benefit. Well, I take that back. A little will be for Itchi when I tell him to STFU!   :twisted:'),(1299,'ef5d33e887','','Itchi???  \r\n\r\n\r\n 8)'),(1300,'0afbfe5583','','SCORE!!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1301,'f5bef32a72','','Well picking static days of the week to run certain places wont work because ZG/AQ20 reset on the same day, every 3 days.  So every week the resets are not on the same day of the week.  So if we were to pick Wed/Thurs for ZG, you may end up one week where ZG resets thursday morning, seperating the 2 days, and starting a new instance for Thursday.'),(1302,'c22d4e9a0b','','The problem is that ZG resets every third day so there is never gonna be a schedule that will always work all the time. If we want to go back and finnish an instance our dates need to change with the offical WoW Raid Calendar.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1303,'2cddc9e4bf','','Can not spell correctly, so I say no.  We dnot nedd poepel ni teh gluid taht cnat speel porpelry.  8)'),(1304,'98b86f24bd','','i know i dont post very often, but i was reading the posts and came along this one.  and as everybody knows my work and personal life leave no real room for raids at all, except the occasional sat night.  but im confused on reading this one on where warmaki attacked anybody or named anybody in his post at all.   maybe i just did not see it?'),(1305,'409f35dd53','','HAHAHHAHHAHA\r\n\r\nLeave my friend alone!!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz\r\n\r\n\r\nP.S. That was funny tho...'),(1306,'7d0af85e52','','Sept me!!\r\n\r\n :mrgreen: \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1307,'b23315273b','','From what i got off what he said was from a previous post to set up times and idea\'s that would be best for the guild and the only outcome from that previous post was nothing but bashing one another. He was just generalizing it and not directed towards ony one person.'),(1308,'1c4186b763','kick','he is only 14 and not a very good player.  I say let him go, but he is vicca\'s kid, so you may end up kicking her too.  I am up for it though.  i tried with unruly running him and xanar and someone else through dm, adn it was very painful'),(1309,'f8c4e13f6a','hmmmm','I like the guy myself, but i too have only been able to make 1 run in the last couple weeks.  I am resigned to teh fact that soemtimes you miss out on things when real life is in the way.  I do however feal that we should allow others like myself , gnome, and him to beable to get an invite first when we are not able to run as offten.  obviously in a fair manner.  I\'m not saying on every time we are on, but if we can only run 1 run in two weeks, why should someone who is avaible everytime get first priority.  cause on our limited time we too would lik eot run with the group.  I know it sounds like i am saying whenever im on i should get to go, but i am not.  I am saying we should try to maintain some sort of balance.  it like saying we all buy a case of beer, and there are four of us.  just becaucei drink slower, why should i still not get to have my 6 beers.'),(1310,'593207d465','','[quote:593207d465=\"Itchiz\"][quote:593207d465]Just for that I will be on to talk a bunch of crap to you!!!! And talk a bunch of crap about you![/quote:593207d465]\r\n\r\nLEAVE GORLOK MARRY ME COME LIVE IN THE BEAUTIFULL BARREN WASTES OF THE COLD NORTH !!! (  Montreal )[/quote:593207d465]Woo... Hooo! STFU ITCHI !'),(1311,'e28e200402','Re: Hey there!','[quote:e28e200402=\"Maghanya\"]I just wanted to say that you guy and the ladies are awesome!!!!!  :D[/quote:e28e200402]MAG!'),(1312,'3fcb9ef48c','Dethe\'s Application','[b:3fcb9ef48c]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:3fcb9ef48c] My current guild is falling apart, all the active people have left it for better/other guilds. You were recommended to me by Caanon.\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Character Class/Style:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Frost Mage lvl 51\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Talent Build:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Ice 33 / Arcane 18\r\nWill be something close to this after patch as well\r\n\r\nHas great survivability, good damage over time, doesn\'t have great burst damage as fire builds do but has great mana conservation.\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Gear:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Nothing great :(\r\n\r\nWhitemane\'s Chapeau\r\nTriune Amulet\r\nRotgrip Mantle\r\nDeepwoodlands Cloak\r\nAcumen Robes\r\nRadiant Silver Bracers\r\nJumanza Grips\r\nMistscape Sash\r\nEmbersilk Leggings of the Eagle\r\nRoyal Boots of the Owl\r\nSnake Hoop\r\nSeal of Sylvanas\r\nRune of Perfection : -20\r\nGoblin Jumper Cables\r\nCarrot on a Stick\r\nCharstone Dirk\r\nProphetic Cane\r\nIcefury Wand\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]MC Attuned:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]BWL Attuned:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Onyxia keyed:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Sponsor:[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Caanon\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Sunday: 11-3\r\nMonday: 4pm-9pm with school, all day without\r\nTuesday: 4pm-9pm with school, all day without\r\nWednesday: 4pm-9pm with school, all day without\r\nThursday: 4pm-9pm with school, all day without\r\nFriday: 4pm-9pm with school, all day without\r\nSaturday: all day\r\n\r\nam on summer vacation right now, so it\'s the without times\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]What raid experience do you have?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  none\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Behemoths(current guild)- the guild leader is being really stupid, and I\'m not liking the guild anymore now that most of the active people left\r\n\r\nBrainstorm - merged with Behemoths\r\n\r\nTeamZissou - left to join a friend (Caanon) in Brainstorm\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  Constant dps, food/water, ports, and crowd control.\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  About 6 months\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  I am Mining and Gnomish Engineering, so I can mine or make trinkets\r\n\r\n[b:3fcb9ef48c]What is your goal ingame?[/b:3fcb9ef48c]  To have fun ultimately, but gearing up and getting more experience in the game.'),(1313,'f16130fb27','','we should stop filling our ranks with school kids.  when summer goes away, so do our raids cause mommy and daddy are gonna be yelling at them all the time.  =\\'),(1314,'08fc8dc135','','I dont know many of the ex-TBT players very well and I would hate to start booting players and start a real shit storm with the new blood. We are growing, we also need to understand that there will be a little \'good with the bad\' going on. If he is backed by one of our players, new or old, we need to consider that relationship. I would hate to to lose a quality player in an effort to thin the herd. \r\n\r\nI know that this post my seem a little two faced, as I just made a post about our Warriors being somewhat \'Useless\'. Booting may not be the answer to the problem. Quality recruting is...even though I suck at it!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1315,'253b540f09','','I recomend the &quot;Beer Bong&quot;. It is wonderfull.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1316,'d68c34553f','','See I am thinking I would love it if they  started at 5pm...'),(1317,'6acdde3017','','I grouped with dethe when I was lvlin\' caanon and he is a quality player who i think we can mold to the &quot;fse&quot; style of doin\' things :-).  Even tho he dosn\'t hav much raid exp. neither do most of the ppl that are raiding in our guild now.'),(1318,'','','Oh come now.  Just give him a chance.  I have run several instances with him now and timbermaw stuff.  He said he has friends that are willing to follow him over and one happens to be a much needed priest.  He was truthful on his app.'),(1319,'056ae6232c','','ITCHIMON! SHYLADY! DREADPERSON!!!! Happy that you\'re got internet soon, itchi!!!!!!  :D'),(1320,'b5067c022e','','POOPONYOUZU!!!!! :D'),(1321,'c9dff54f92','End Game Attunements','OK, as most of you have gotten tells from me asking about your ability to enter certain end game instances it comes as no surprise that i have compiled a list of who is/isn\'t attuned/keyed/whatever.\r\n\r\nHere it is by class....\r\n\r\n\r\nWarrior-\r\n\r\nDreadwind-  MC/ONY/BWL\r\nCaanon- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nVeine- MC/BWL\r\nRagood- MC\r\nWeekendnite- MC/BWL\r\nGnomebiter- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nKanaheruc- MC/BWL\r\nViviann- MC\r\nWoodcrow- MC/ONY/BWL\r\n\r\nPriest-\r\n\r\nErg- MC\r\n\r\nDruid-\r\n\r\nDisenchant- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nMeshach- MC\r\n\r\nShaman-\r\n\r\nTemblar- MC\r\nJTG- MC\r\nTterrag- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nMerryl- MC\r\n\r\nMage-\r\n\r\nGarbric- MC\r\nBecs- MC\r\nBaeloc- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nRiryoku- MC\r\n\r\nWarlock-\r\n\r\nZeph- MC\r\nTsiik- MC\r\nKraygien- MC/BWL\r\n\r\nHunter- \r\n\r\nOhnoez- MC/BWL\r\nAhcks- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nBigmama-  MC ??\r\n\r\n\r\nRogue-\r\n\r\nGricham- MC/ONY/BWL\r\nDefiance- MC\r\n\r\n\r\nMesoko and Xanar still need all of them.  This is the breakdown of ppl who have been on and ive asked.  Plz pst me in game if there need to be adendums.  We have enough warrs just need more dps and heals.  Wether our warrs have the right gear is another matter.  I myself only hav 92 fr and thats with a pair of mail gloves\r\n.'),(1322,'ca0c0db76e','','Delicious morsels.'),(1323,'1e2aba1bb5','','Hmm, I didn\'t know he was Vicca\'s child. This changes everything. \r\n\r\nHowever, is this certainty? Or is Barbie mixing up Kena with another guild member from Bad Touch such as Wrell? Need facts here. \r\n\r\nIf he is the son of Vicca, then politics get in the way in the form of attached strings. But I thought him to be an applicant seperate from the Bad Touch merger. \r\n\r\nIf he has no blood ties, he must be severed from us! :)'),(1324,'612cb07e5a','','HIMAGHOWAREYOUDOING?'),(1325,'453fc6664a','','What i was sayin was this is the way to handle the issue.  But he sent tells and such and had someone else pop off in guild chat..  His post was what i was akin for a post sayin this will work or will not work and here is why so I can have more info to work with.   Not going about it in a manner that no good can come from it  My post was directed at a convo me and maki had i guess I should have used a better outlet...   My apologies Maki\r\n\r\n\r\nLike I said my goal is to make this work for the majority, not to cause any hard feelings'),(1326,'f8bd7dff71','','Ok full story  \r\n\r\nRaid fills\r\n\r\nOne leaves  Ohnoez was on waiting to get in missed out on orginal invite   so i gave him the spot but the funny thing  both Zuw and Spoiled where waitin for spots then Maki got on and thought spot should be his.  Even if I would give spots to officer/council or old FSE first (which i wont)  he was third on the list.\r\n\r\nohnoez was on waiting for hours   maki gets on at 6:35-6:45 no contest i feel\r\n\r\nZuw and Spoiled on a bit after 6:30  i feel time table layed my decisions out for me\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso Barbie don\'t go to the bathroom or Me and Ian will drink all your booze    Pat Garret Lover :)'),(1327,'6740f4c9f2','','GORMANORBEAST!!!!!  :D'),(1328,'c981f09a9a','','that is tru but static give us a schedule the other days can be a need/greed Pick up run if schedule floats wrong.   We need schedule to get an idea of when raiders need to be on.  We now have some.  I understand we may want to start with 1 aq20 and 1 zg date and let second day come as we can.'),(1329,'1d3623bcdf','How about this for next week raid schedule','Wed and Thursday ZG at 6:30 invite  start at 6:45\r\n\r\nSun   AQ20 invite at 1 start at 1:30\r\n\r\n????????????????????????????????????????????????'),(1330,'aa7d841533','','Sounds alright, but what if we had another night to continue on the started zg?'),(1331,'c2dcfd194a','','thats two nights on same ZG scheduled and always can do a third as a Pick up raid night if we have the people down'),(1332,'d2f6d4476d','Re: How about this for next week raid schedule','[quote:d2f6d4476d=\"Udazhi\"]Wed and Thursday ZG at 6:30 invite  start at 6:45\r\n\r\nSun   AQ20 invite at 1 start at 1:30\r\n\r\n????????????????????????????????????????????????[/quote:d2f6d4476d] I will be there for those next week ;P'),(1333,'84bf9b5abc','','Sounds fine to me, though I wont be able to make Thursday night as I will be closing.\r\n\r\nWhy am I closing you ask?  Well I\'m going to watch the USA World Cup game...\r\n\r\n...then again if we get eliminated tomorrow I may just switch it around so I open.  Then I would be able to make it.  :)'),(1334,'afba0ec2a6','','I think the app looks pretty good, and while he may be a school kid, looks like he\'ll have good playing time when school is back in session.\r\n\r\nI vote yes.'),(1335,'ed9c39db5d','','I believe that Wrell is Vicca\'s kid.  Kana I think is just a regular applicant.'),(1336,'48901e1133','','Sounds good to me, I dont have any probs with static days.'),(1337,'7061a2b5b6','','Yes, I do believe Wrell is Vicca\'s kid.'),(1338,'d1badb7041','','I believe that ZG resets just on a rolling 3 days.  Which would only screw us every few weeks or so if we did Wed/Thurs ZG.  Even then it wouldn\'t be too bad, just give us more shots to learn to clear faster and maybe work in new people who don\'t know first bosses.'),(1339,'1688b16e1c','','told me he was removing his app'),(1340,'efe0715ea0','Combat sword build for rogue','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?ihe0oxZG0Ez0Vzxco0h\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nmelee attack power is name of the game need it around 750+\r\n\r\nWhite Damage rulz'),(1341,'3d7548a07b','','If you\'re using him for pve, which is what it looks like you\'re getting at, I woudl lose Iron will.  Put two of those points into imp bloodrage, a useless talent, but what comes after it, Last Stand, is HUGE.  For me its another 2k life for 20 sec.  Just enough time to save you in a tight spot.  Put another one of those points into imp shield block, but just one, any more is a waste.  \'cause for that one point yoru sb ability lasts for another hit, which is huge.  Maybe put that last point in imp sw or a cheaper sunder.   just my 2 cents :-)'),(1342,'6297653c3a','What should i go with?','I have been hearing rumours that i should go with a 2hander instead of tanking because we have enough tanks in this guild already, and we need more arms warriors. Is this true?'),(1343,'3698351db4','','Right now we have quite a few tanks, and more DPS warriors wouldn\'t hurt us.  Dreadwind, Gnomebiter, Caanon and Zuwani now are all Prot spec warriors.  \r\n\r\nYou can do whatever build you want, but just have the ability to strap on a shield, pull out a one-hander and save a mage from his death at the hands of burning mobs!\r\n\r\nZuwani and Gnome were both non-Prot warriors until just recently, but they always had the ability to jump into defensive stance when we needed them to.  This is why we let them play such foolish builds for so long!  \r\n\r\n;)'),(1345,'46d08a6fe4','','repost a talents with new utility.  http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?mZEEohthtI0Vz'),(1346,'162866272c','','If you\'re going for all-out damage why not put 5 pts in Improved AotH instead of wingclip?  Granted you would be sacrificing a little pvp ability but I\'m assuming you weren\'t worried too much about that.'),(1347,'23f32ba07a','','Yes, another competant dps arms warr would not hurt us, later on we will need that mortal strike.'),(1348,'1d8bc14b98','','Ok so far Warmaki has joined.  WTF ladies lets get some of you in this game.  Little side FSE competition.'),(1349,'5499b08f64','','[quote:5499b08f64=\"Itchiz\"]IM BACK !!!! TRUELY IM BACK !!! AND OMG I CAN HATE VAMPRIX AGAIN TOO? AND SHY IS TAKING A BREAK FROM WOW ? ....wow. ...couldnt get any better ...[/quote:5499b08f64]I am done with my break ! I will be on during the week for the raids. So did I ruin your happiness?!?! I hope so !'),(1350,'e677335011','Gemeshkon\'s Application','[b:e677335011]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:e677335011] my friend is in (Kanaheruc)\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Character Class/Style:[/b:e677335011]  Druid Feral\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Talent Build:[/b:e677335011]  pretty good at every thing (healing tank dps) so ill be good in instances.\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Gear:[/b:e677335011]  basicaly i try to stick with gear with high agility and spirit\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]MC Attuned:[/b:e677335011]  No\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]BWL Attuned:[/b:e677335011]  No\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Onyxia keyed:[/b:e677335011]  No\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Sponsor:[/b:e677335011]  \r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:e677335011]  6-11pm 2 hours past gt\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]What raid experience do you have?[/b:e677335011]  been in a few raids for senentil hill\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:e677335011]  bleak.noob guild\r\nbehemoths. got bored\r\nlag zepplin. got bored\r\ni hate rogues. small.\r\nsome of my own guilds i created\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:e677335011]  healing\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:e677335011]  4 months\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:e677335011]  enchanting..im low at it\r\n\r\n[b:e677335011]What is your goal ingame?[/b:e677335011]  get 60'),(1351,'00f90636e6','','cause i can\'t shoot at people when they\'re standing next to me.  =('),(1352,'1c6439b365','','No.'),(1353,'dc5682f165','','No effort...\r\nNo Vote...\r\nNo FSE...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1354,'8e63ea289b','','Suckaaa!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1355,'176acf6ba0','','Well, every time this Kena guy, or JTG types something, most people in the guild cringe. \r\n\r\nSo is there an officer vote total needed to get these goons out of the guild? Two week period post for &quot;Should they stay or should they go?&quot;. \r\n\r\nI can\'t see either passing.'),(1356,'16735a4962','','K, I\'m officially part of the league now.  Ph34r my 1337 fantasy football skillz.'),(1357,'509b2b95e9','','Sounds like he\'s 12...'),(1358,'218b3773ce','','I signed up... But I have know idea what Im doing! ;P'),(1359,'fed24bcd77','','Somtimes i wake up in a sweat too... then i remember to turn on my air conditioner'),(1360,'5c0face6af','','i like these times and days , they should work for me on some regular basis'),(1361,'392c122f48','','Guys goal is to hit 60???? Thats pretty low standards.  I think we could attain this for him, then we could change his goal to &quot;Get Geared Up&quot;, I dunno we may have awinner here.\r\n\r\n\r\n*cough* NO'),(1362,'6cf56bef72','','11 spots left guys come on you dont have to know what your doing it will just be good clean fun watching me destroy your unexperienced asses..,.....'),(1363,'67cd10ea17','','yea warmaki/fuzzynips is awesome :)'),(1364,'ea65512088','','the weekday times work well for me... thank you... M-F i close the store at 6:00 server time when i work that shift that i close. saturday i close the store at 4:00 server time.  and sundays i work 10-3 server time.  thank you for the consideration of changing the times, id love to get in on some runs with you guys.. :)'),(1365,'3870ccb069','Labanos\'s Application','[b:3870ccb069]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:3870ccb069] I am friends with Barbie and was told this is the guild to join and would love to be a part of it\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Character Class/Style:[/b:3870ccb069]  Troll/ Warrior\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Talent Build:[/b:3870ccb069]  I am new to warcraft and will be building my character steadily. I think i will be quite the warrior in time\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Gear:[/b:3870ccb069]  I have all Chain mail Armor, Several potions, a dwarven hatrchet of strength and a sheild of the bear. \r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]MC Attuned:[/b:3870ccb069]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]BWL Attuned:[/b:3870ccb069]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Onyxia keyed:[/b:3870ccb069]  No\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Sponsor:[/b:3870ccb069]  \r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:3870ccb069]  Everyday from 6am-9am then 10pm till 2am\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]What raid experience do you have?[/b:3870ccb069]  None\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:3870ccb069]  None\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:3870ccb069]  A good warrior\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:3870ccb069]  3 days\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:3870ccb069]  I am a miner/ leathermaker\r\n\r\n[b:3870ccb069]What is your goal ingame?[/b:3870ccb069]  to hit level 60'),(1366,'1820760436','Nairdaeus\'s Application','[b:1820760436]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:1820760436] Was informed that FSE was doing ZG and will be doing AQ shortly.. This is one step closer for me to get into the end game instances..  Was partied up with some FSE people and to me they knew what they were doing so a big plus for me...\r\n\r\nThx and if any problems pls let me know..\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Character Class/Style:[/b:1820760436]  Lv 60 - Mage\r\n\r\nArc 31, Fire 20\r\n\r\nWent for the PoM, Arc Power, Pyro for PvP... I am prepared to change if required...\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Talent Build:[/b:1820760436]  My setup is more based for PvP (Was Legionaire), high damage output with fire and can spam arc blast.. Silence is golden against spells..\r\n\r\nDownside is my frost is much weaker..\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Gear:[/b:1820760436]  3/4 PvP Gear (Blood guard and Legionaires)\r\n2 Epics from AV - Frostwolf insignia, Don Rodrigos Ring\r\nTrindlehaven Staff, Eye of beast, Kaisyer Boots of prescision...\r\n\r\nI have just bought the epic Robes of the archmage (tailoring) so am looking to get get Earth, Air, Fire Water Essence (x10)...\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]MC Attuned:[/b:1820760436]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]BWL Attuned:[/b:1820760436]  No\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Onyxia keyed:[/b:1820760436]  No\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Sponsor:[/b:1820760436]  Caanon\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:1820760436]  +10 zone - Melbourne, Australia\r\n\r\nOn long holidays (months) atm so any time frame...\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]What raid experience do you have?[/b:1820760436]  Only the normal ones - BRD, UBRS, LBRS, Scholo, Strat\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:1820760436]  Desecrate (Still going)\r\n\r\nMy mate and I started the guild when we were about Lv 15.. We reached 60 and wanted to do end game instances.. We were the only 60\'s in that guild..\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:1820760436]  DPS - Mob control - Water vending machine (The good stuff)\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:1820760436]  Went to level 40 on another server (Mage), changed over to boulderfist with my mate.. Approx 6 months of game time..\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:1820760436]  Tailoring - 300\r\nMining - 270\r\nFirst Aid - 300\r\n\r\n4 alts - Nairdaren Lv 35 Shaman, all the rest under lv 20.. Was trying to have every profession covered ;)\r\n\r\n[b:1820760436]What is your goal ingame?[/b:1820760436]  Hopefully to gain epic items and improve my character..'),(1367,'5e4a49a1a1','','yes shy ...yes you did ....i might just quit again !'),(1368,'3b1439ff82','','also ....i want access to members forums !'),(1369,'568bc33ccd','','I ran with him in UBRS today.  A solid mage that we can def. use. :-)\r\n+1 from me'),(1370,'ae1f8b72a0','','alright I got in too! :shock:'),(1371,'f6a9d26c09','','This looks like a good app, I think it was very well filled out.  Need more AOE/DPS for raids.  I vote yes.'),(1372,'d98cd8fe3b','','Nice Sig Itchi.'),(1373,'97bcdef9bc','','Yes wee bro of one of my oldest friends in the whole wide world been waitin for him to join us on WOW  so yes  Wee Siplon gets my vote'),(1374,'997c93b2c9','','I thought we were not going to accept any more warriors :p'),(1375,'0f12e09fb0','','Well since he\'s been playing for 3 days, I\'m sure we wont have to worry about him crowding raids for, oh, 5 months or so :) \r\n\r\nSeems to be a friend of the guild already so I say yes.'),(1376,'c86b4af752','','I know, only messing with ya :p'),(1377,'1761bd4853','','I\'m 300 in both tailoring and enchanting.  I\'ve spent way too much time making up an Excel spreadsheet with all my abilities with regard to these two professions and it can be downloaded from my website at www.gorksplace.com.  There is a link near the bottom of the page.\r\n\r\nI don\'t have a huge stockpile of mats - I kinda got tired of the humdrum of farming and selling enchants.  (Poets-r-us...)  I\'m more than happy to provide my enchanting services (&amp; tailoring for that matter) for guild members free of charge with mats.  I\'ve even been known on occassion to assist with farming for mats, either with info or DPS.  My next goal with regard to enchanting is to get the lifestealing enchant, but my #1 priority is tier 0 with chest from UBRS at the top of that list.\r\n\r\nOne thing I do for several people and don\'t mind continuing as long as it doesn\'t become so huge that I can\'t keep up...  Send me items to DE and I\'ll send the mats back to you, or just catch me in Org.  Save up the mats until you have what you need for the chant you\'re looking for and voila.'),(1378,'0b2dc4017e','','I [i:0b2dc4017e]dare[/i:0b2dc4017e] you to try to accomodate my schedule.  In fact, I double dog dare you!\r\n\r\nMy schedule changes month to month and during hectic times sometimes week to week.  I\'m currently working 12 hour shifts from 7pm to 7am with Wed/Thr/Fri off.  In a week I will be switching to Sat/Sun/Mon off, (stop reading here and continue on with your life if you know what\'s good for you) then will be gone for three weeks and won\'t be with a computer. :(  I then have to fly home for two days for court on a subpoena (I work for the PD) and then will fly back to my vacation spot for two more weeks, again, away from a computer.  At then end of my delicious, if interrupted, vacation I will be back to 12 hour shifts, but by that time our schedules include only 2 days off - yes, 60 hours per week.  The changes to accomodate this switch will more than likely leave me with a schedule at that time that I\'m not aware of, but may be either Wed/Thr or Thr/Fri off working 7p-7a.  The following month I\'ll be switching to day shift, working 7a-7p with Sun/Mon/Tue off, unless they still need us to work the 60 hour work weeks.  We do have two in training now so if they both make it out without being canned or telling us to piss up a rope we MAY end up getting some RELIEF and not have to work so much OT!  &lt;cough&gt;  Um, yeah sure.  In this case I might end up moving to a 3p-11p schedule, or perhaps an 11a to 11p schedule.  Sometimes they move us around a bit and have us work one day on on one shift, have one day off then work 3 or 4 days on a different shift then have 2 days off.  It\'ll be interesting to see what happens.  They think they have us scheduled out through the end of the year, but this new supervisor doesn\'t quite have a handle on how hectic things are here due to such short staffing levels in a 24 hr/365+ day operation.\r\n\r\nOk, so that was my shot at humor.  Lengthy, dry, whiney humor.  It\'s all oh such a very true story though!  ;)\r\n\r\nCAN YOU HELP ME?'),(1379,'6e636d01b4','','i\'m down.  i\'m ok with putting holes in big nasties anytime and anywhere...  provided i get a job that doesn\'t screw up my wow schedule ;)'),(1381,'4aa4bb57b2','','Seems solid\r\n\r\nYes Vote\r\n\r\nG\'day mate!!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1382,'5a22951b6a','','and it changes so often too !! ( my sig )'),(1383,'60b8770824','','i vote for guild removal'),(1384,'cf8518d447','','Are canadians even allowed to vote on any matter?'),(1385,'6ec56126c9','Wife aggro....','I stole this from the WoW Forums....I am not the author...\r\n__________________________________________________ \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nWe\'ve all seen the threads, &quot;Nerf Shamans&quot;, &quot;Nerf Hunters&quot;, &quot;Nerf so and so.&quot; Yea yea, this isn\'t one of those threads. If running while seeing only gray was as bad as it got, I wouldn\'t have sat down to tell you about the undisputed ruler of overpowered classes. You guessed it, the Wife. \r\n\r\nI shall attempt to explain my strategy on dealing with this class, and discuss a bit about her skills. Let me tell you, she got skills you ain\'t seen yet. Molten Core, Onyxia, Ahn\' Qiraj ...ppfffft. Easy Mode. Any noob with elite gear, buffs, and an army beside them can tackle the mobs in these places. But to truly rank as a Master Player in the World of Warcraft, you must find a way to handle the Wife or you WILL be PWNED without exception. PWNED as in &quot;more than owned. Owned, you just pick yourself up after regaining consciousness. Wife PWNED: you have your mates collect your parts in a duffle bag. \r\n\r\nWife Strategies \r\n\r\nLets face it you and I both know that if you want to avoid a mob, you gotta manage to not draw their aggro. This is a simple and fundamental rule of WoW. So the first area we\'ll explore is: \r\n\r\nManaging Wife Aggro \r\nThings you must know about Wife aggro are: \r\n\r\nThe mob has a radius of about 100 feet, or the average maximum dimension of a standard house lot. Wife aggro doesnt diminish if you\'re at a different elevation or behind a barrier. It sees through and around all obstacles. If you\'re on the same property, you may be drawing aggro and not even know it. \r\n\r\nThe Wife is essentially a patrol. You never know where they come from or how long their patrol lasts. They respawn with regularity. They change direction seemingly without pattern. And worst of all they vary their speed and areas of focus often. Basically, think unpredictable with a capital UN. \r\n\r\nHere are some initial steps to reduce the Aggro radius. \r\n\r\nStealth: This is your basic tactic, and you should be in this mode at all times. Stealth mode is an art. It requires rapid use of the Alt-Tab key combination, volume control, and engaging in one of your primary or secondary professions quickly. Hear the garage door roll up? Quick say good-bye to your group, Alt-Tab, drink a mug of TV Sound Buffer, and begin channeling: Chore Diversion. \r\n\r\nChore Diversion: Once you have exited stealth mode and you are within the radius of Wife Aggro, Chore Diversion is clearly your best option for minimizing Wife Aggro. The easiest of these is Dish Management. A few quick steps toward your nearest stack of dishes, some moderate clanking noises and a quick /How was your day? is almost a foolproof method to maintain minimal aggro. I try to keep dishes in stacks of 10 nearby so that I\'ll always have the ability to channel Chore Diversion at a moments notice. \r\n\r\nOther notable subclasses of Chore Diversion include: \r\nBlessing of Laundry Management. \r\nAura of Dusting. \r\nFocus of Dog Brushing. \r\nStinky Trash Launch. \r\nCone of Bathroom Facilities Maintenance. \r\n\r\nAs a side note here there are really only two professions you can take to be even passable at Wife Aggro management. Herbalism is great because picking weeds is always a good chore diversion and can be done at just about any time. Enchanting is the most popular with the elite Wife Aggro managers, because fixing stuff up goes a long way in reducing Wife aggro. It takes more time to do, and it\'s much harder to Feign Enchanting when coming out of Stealth mode, but give it some time and you\'ll find that this works almost as good as Seduction. \r\n\r\nSubtlety: Subtlety is similar to Stealth but you are able to continue questing at a much slower pace with significantly added danger. This can be done when the Wife is on the phone, in the shower, or other thing that take you completely out of the Wife aggro radius for intermittent times. If the Wife is about to embark on an exercise regime, you may have 1/2 hour or more to quest before the Wife aggro radius envelopes you once again. Trust me, you better be able to stealth and channel Chore Diversion quickly my friend. Hot key these now. \r\n\r\nDinner Sap: This is one of the specialized elite Wife aggro control skill but it can only be used at night and has about a 24 hour cool down. It\'s another channeled skill and it will take you out of combat for at least an hour. However once you\'re done you will be well fed and your wife will be in a stunned state (lasts usually 1/2 hour to 2 hours, depending on getting a Wine Crit during channeling. \r\n\r\nLong Walk Mind Control: This skill is often used directly after the Dinner Sap. It takes a considerable amount of skill to do this effectively and requires the ability to employ the right emote at the right time during the Long Walk. Let\'s just say, you definitely need to throw down a /hug if the Wife tells you of a particularly troubling event during the day. A poorly timed /lol will land you in the Dog House after a Stink Eye crit faster that you can say &quot;Honey?&quot; We\'ll discuss these Wife Elite Skills further later on. Ultimately the Long Walk Mind Control is used as a precursor to getting the wife to take care of some of her own business immediately after and allowing you some time to employ subtlety and play for an hour or two. \r\n\r\nSeduction: This is a skill that you now have racked up enough combo points for and you are hoping for a massive crit. Assume (correctly) that you get a combo point for each of the previously used skills of Stealth, Subtlety, Chore Diversion, Dinner Sap, and Long Walk Mind Control. Take those 5 combo points and use \'em quick. You only have about an hour after the Long Walk Mind Control to use Seduction before the combo points start to fade so don\'t wait on this skill to long. Buff with Light of Candle, and always repair and clean your armor. If possible, use Seduction, kite, then Seduction so that you can throw down Chain Seduction for as long as you have mana. \r\n\r\nIf you are lucky enough to get a crit while chaining Seduction, you may get the Wife to Sleep (you\'ve just landed a crit). This will allow you time for your mana bar to regen, and you may get 6 to 8 hours of late night play time. If you\'re like me, this is the best time to attempt an instance. That sleep is usually sound and won\'t break for a good long time. Keep little adds and patrols controlled once you land one of these. \r\n\r\nVacation AoE Channeling: Much like saving for a mount or that killer piece of armor, you\'re going to have to save up for the ultimate in expensive Wife Aggro Management tool, the AoE Vacation. Once you begin channeling this, you\'ll be out of combat for at least 3 days, and up to 2 weeks in some cases. The bonus to this is that you will probably get up to 2 days of uninterrupted play time when the channeling is completed. This can be extended by offering to (Chore Diversion) do the laundry upon return. You may even have enough laundry to extend a play session deep into the night. When you get back from AoE Vacation, you should be at a full blue bar if you\'re below 60 so you\'ll be catching up faster than normal. \r\n\r\nNow let\'s take some time to discuss: \r\n\r\nWife Elite Skills \r\n\r\nThis class has some of the most feared skills in the game and you would be wise to learn all the nuances of the Wife you\'re facing. Almost every wife starts out with a awesome racial trait: \r\n\r\n+200 to throwing skills: Should you draw aggro, this is the one that poses the most immediate risk to your survival. Avoid everything that\'s coming your way, and don\'t be a noob and grab something and throw it back, you\'ll never lose aggro that way. Run. This is your only option. Run fast, run far, drink lots, return when the Wife is sleeping or on patrol somewhere else. \r\n\r\nNow for some combat skill that may be used during your upcoming conflict: \r\n\r\nStink Eye: This is the initial curse used universally by Wives when they find out you\'re playing World of Warcraft. This can place you into the Dog House, a snare that usually lasts between 8 and 24 hours. This means you\'ve drawn Wife aggro and should be preparing for the following attacks. \r\n\r\nCold Shoulder: You will be iced by the Wife, which will give you the false impression that you are moving when in actuality, you\'re going nowhere. It\'s a snare and a DoT all in one. Immediately cast Chore Diversion or Dinner Sap or your in for a whoopin. \r\n\r\nMind Control: When the Wife starts talking you into a situation where it will be impossible to use either Subtlety or Stealth, she\'s using Mind Control. This is a DoT spell that builds over time. She\'ll kite you to a chick flick, one of your kid\'s functions, a Bunko night at a Wives encampment, or the ultimate in smack downs - Shopping. Aak!! Avoid this skill at all costs. Offer Dinner Sap right away. Feign Chore Diversion. Stealth. Get thee away poor warrior, the enemy is using you. \r\n\r\nSoul Drain: This is another DoT that can be cast concurrently with Mind Control. If you find yourself watching the Dr. Phil Show at a mall with a latte in your hands, you\'re being Soul Drained. Combined with Mind Control, there is very little defense. You may just want to die and rez back at a graveyard. Watch yourself here, Wives are notorious corpse campers. \r\n\r\nLash of Power Cord: An instant cast stun and damage dealer that will likely put you in a gray world. Jerking the power cord free of the PC has a 100% crit chance. When the Wife equips the power cord in her off hand and wags her finger with her main hand, you know you\'ve fully pulled all Wife aggro and are headed for a wipe. Hopefully you can reduce aggro by saying &quot;I guess I\'m done. Care for a Long Walk?&quot; \r\n\r\nSummon Adds: So you\'ve acquired Wife aggro and the battle is not going well. It gets worse fast if she decides to Summon Adds by calling her sister and getting moral support for her state of aggro. This is a direct damage spell that pummels you and heals her. If the battle gets to this, you may have to spam Dinner Sap on the whole extended family. This will drain your backpack but you may be able to find some time for Stealth or Subtlety afterward. \r\n\r\nReverse Seduction: This is the ultimate devious scheme and probably the most effective way for the Wife to take you completely out of combat. She will drain your mana, sap your life and when she crits, you\'ll be sleeping for a long, long while. \r\n\r\nFeign Banish: By the time you get to this point in the battle, it\'s not looking good and you\'re searching the world for a heal and somebody to help you crowd control. When the Feign Banish curse gets thrown on you by the Wife, you are in a desperate state. Dramatic action is needed. It may be time for an AoE Vacation. A long one. Things are getting ugly. Find an inn and acquire blue bar cause the Mob you\'re facing is skulls to you and you really have no chance. \r\n\r\nBanish: This is the ultimate weapon, and direct damage spell that also deals damage over time, and is irresistible, not dispellable, and the trinkets that you need to stop this are only available to end game players that are ready to hang up their honor ranking and head off into the sunset of MMORPGS. You cannot win. Look for a new place to hearth to, because you have forfeited your hearthstone. You wanna know when this game ends? You will soon find out. Basically, you\'re screwed. Avoid this at all costs. \r\n\r\nClosing Comments \r\n\r\nI hope this guide is helpful. I\'m not sure it applies to everyone here in the WoW community but there are enough of us out there that face this Mob on a daily basis. There are many similar mobs on the way to this instance and negotiating these is a similar feat but can often be mind controlled into harmlessness. Be carefule here, the Girlfriend, Significant Other, and Date mobs you face are just getting you combat ready. \r\n\r\nThose of you that play with your significant other I say &quot;Good job and kudos.&quot; You\'ll never face the ultimate class in WoW but I\'m sure you\'ll get in more uninterrupted time. Those of you who operate outside this instance, I can only assume you\'re too low a level, a noob, or a gold farmer not willing to take that risk.'),(1386,'d3f8cf6ec5','','[quote:d3f8cf6ec5=\"Itchiz\"]i vote for guild removal[/quote:d3f8cf6ec5]Oh god... who gave him access to the private forums?!?!?'),(1387,'d704e295fd','','One of the better apps.  Yes vote.'),(1388,'1d3d2b32ac','','Looks good to me.'),(1389,'7db5982602','',':( Sorry to hear that Shy.  Hope you wont be gone to long.'),(1390,'213dc71783','','Great STuff'),(1391,'8d0bb05430','Tetsuo\'s Application','[b:8d0bb05430]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:8d0bb05430] Well i partied with some people and there really nice.I also would like to get my rogue to have some endgame gear.\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Character Class/Style:[/b:8d0bb05430]  Lvl 56 rogue..currently double sword\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Talent Build:[/b:8d0bb05430]  I am mainly combat 31, asassination 11, and subetly 4... my build for now is a pvp and lvling. When iam 60 i plan on making a build good for instancing.\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Gear:[/b:8d0bb05430]  Ebon mask,stormshroud shoulders,stormshroud pants,devilsaur gauntlets, frostwolf leather belt,frostwolf legionaries pendant,pridelord armor, pridelord boots,shadowcraft bracers,frostwolf legionnares cloak,blackstone ring, masons fraternity ring,rune of duty, insignia of the horde\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]MC Attuned:[/b:8d0bb05430]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]BWL Attuned:[/b:8d0bb05430]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Onyxia keyed:[/b:8d0bb05430]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Sponsor:[/b:8d0bb05430]  Zuwani\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:8d0bb05430]  I play every day at least 6 hours a day work permiting... iam on mountain time. I play all day long on friday-sunday\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]What raid experience do you have?[/b:8d0bb05430]  I have done ZG many times,And MC alot also, onyxia 3 times and BWL 1. ( i have a 60 paladin)\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:8d0bb05430]  I have been in 2 guilds and they disbanded\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:8d0bb05430]  I feel that iam a dpser and i will dps things\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:8d0bb05430]  Ive been playing wow from a couple months after it came out.\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:8d0bb05430]  My alts on adiffernt server.. I am an alchemist and i think that i could make potions for guildmates like healing pots\r\n\r\n[b:8d0bb05430]What is your goal ingame?[/b:8d0bb05430]  Well as much as i would love to have bloodfang.. I really would just like to have nightslayer gear.'),(1392,'a5ee77a984','','This guy seems really together. Not spastick or jumpy. Very willing to help and friendly to the rest of the party. \r\n\r\nYes Vote.\r\n\r\nz'),(1393,'f67af77e3e','','[quote:f67af77e3e]provided i get a job that doesn\'t screw up my wow schedule ;)[/quote:f67af77e3e]heh\r\n\r\nI meant to be there last Wed but didn\'t understand how the invite thing worked.  I got up early and had plenty of time to do a few things.  I logged in at 5 after the invite time and that was apparently not the wisest choice.  So I moped around the rest of the night.  Or was that mopped?  I think I must\'ve spot mopped, you know, with all that extra time.\r\n\r\nI\'m hoping to try my hand with you all this Wed, but it looks like they\'re gonna\' throw some mandatory OT at me \'cuz we have two out with family emergencies.  So, this would be the end of chapter 2.  :)'),(1397,'44d2d8db2c','shammy raid resto build 1.11','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?uE00hZVZE00xAcqo\r\n\r\n\r\nI was asked for my 2 cents on a resto build.  I may not have shammyness down completely but here is what i would say would work nice like.\r\n\r\nOnly real questions i may have about it is to remove elemental points to add into enhncement since if resto shouldnt be usin shocks that much i guess\r\n\r\nwho knows, not me  :)'),(2197,'396b5b4d8e','Arathi Basin &quot;How\'s it work?&quot;','I found this. You should read this, because I &quot;think&quot; it might tell some things about Arathi Basin to help. If everyone read and understood this they would be twice as good at the Arathi Basin battleground as they were before reading this. Some of the content may be drowning in opinion, but for the most part it\'s a good run down.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nintro: arathi basin is imo, the most intense battleground. It is a BG where you must constantly adapt to change. There arent any rules in stone i\'ve really found, just guidlines. AB can be very chaotic, but there are measures to ensure your team doesnt run like chickens with their heads chopped off.\r\n\r\nORGANIZATION\r\n\r\nfighting on the flag: in AB, the node flag is everything, your life is nothing. You must do all you can to prevent captures from the enemy, even if it means putting yourself in harm\'s way. thus, defenders should always be near the flag, do not get tricked and lured out by ranged enemies, there could be a stealthed enemy nearby waiting for you to leave, and ninja the flag. \r\n\r\ncall all incomings: defenders should always call out every incoming followd by an estimation of numbers. Its as easy as &quot;Inc LM 3-4&quot; Even if the defender must stop to type and risk getting killed, he should still call out. Recon is key to winning AB, the better recon, the easier it is to respond on defense.\r\n\r\nall nodes should be defended: never leave a node unguarded. The best node defenders are pet classes: warlock and hunter. Other classes can be crowd controlled, (feared, seduced, polymorphed, sapped, mind controlled), ignored, and have the flag ninjaed right in front of them. Hunters are the ideal defenders for nodes because warlocks are needed on offense. If you\'re a hunter, please just volunteer to guard the node.\r\n\r\nsomeone has to make some calls: even in PUGs someone has to call the shots. The bare minimum is telling which person to stay and defend a node after it\'s capped. Some people use \'you cap it your guard it \' policies. This is not a good policy imo, as often the wrong class will be defending. Rather, if you\'re a high ranked pvper, or the highest ranked person in the area, do your duty: take charge and say \'you, hunter, stay and defend this node. if you refuse to defend this node, speak up, and i will find another.\'\r\n\r\nco-leaders, party leaders: AB is very hectic, sometimes too chaotic for one person alone to make sense out of. A leader would be wise to delegate co-leaders within each team, people he knows he can trust to make wise local decisions. A co-leader should try to alleviate the leader of obvious decision making, like assigning node guards.\r\n\r\nhiding spots at each node: each node has decorative landscape and architecture which can be used to a defender\'s advantage. Defenders should keep their backs against an object or water so they dont get snuck up on by rogues. my personal favorite hiding spots are inside the mine, inside the lumber mill by the saws, behind the small ruts at the blacksmith out of view from the enemy, and near the waters at stables. Pet defender classes can also hide in their pet. Turn the pet on \'stay,\' and sit inside it. This can often confuse targeting of an incoming enemy. My pet has saved me from various attackcs before.\r\n\r\nTHE NODES: arathi basin has 5 nodes: stables, mine, blacksmith, lumber mill, and farm. \r\n\r\nthe stables/farm: these are the closest nodes to alliance/horde starting places respectively. One person should definitely be assigned right at the beginning to cap and guard the closeby node. It\'s basically your team\'s \'free\' node, and should be taken immediately, and not have too many stop to dismount to cap it. this \'free node\' is also usually the least bothered by the enemy because its so far away. Because of this, it is a rather quiet node, allowing one to think and strategize in peace. Thus i dubbed it the \'commander\'s node.\' The peace and quiet allows a commander to freely type/talk to his teammates and give orders on where to go. If you\'re the team leader, consider that; your orders and fast decisions are weighty on winning. Also the stables is a great place to fish. \r\n\r\nthe blacksmith: the blacksmith is the \'prized possession.\' It is arguably the best node, because it is in the middle, thus it is a good median to defend all your other nodes. If you can hold blacksmith, you can get to any node faster than the enemy team, making defense easier. If your team has the blacksmith, centralize around it when you\'re not attacking, and guard it zealously. \r\n\r\nthe lumber mill: the lumber mill is a great node to have also. It is the best node for recon, on top of the LM you can see for miles. The LM guard should be like a weather chopper, constantly updating his team of enemy movement. beware though the LM\'s guard is vulnerable as he cannot see enemy\'s sneaking up the hills beside him. Thus other nodes should give early warning to the LM guards.\r\n\r\nthe mine: the mine is the worst node. It is a pathetic pithole just waiting to get ambushed. You cannot see anything at the mine, but enemies can sneak on you. From the mine guards\' perspectives, a large enemy invading team can materialize out of thin air. If you want to hold the mine, you\'ll need earlier warning of incoming enemies than other nodes. Placing a patrol north of blacksmith, a patrol who watches the stables, farm, and blacksmith, can make up for bad visibility at the mine. I often placed a rogue here, just quietly stealthed watching everything\r\n\r\nWHEN THE GAME STARTS:\r\n\r\nthe initial phase of AB is crucial. the game can be decided from the first wave of lives. thus how your team divides and conquers is very important.\r\n\r\nparty setup: the leader will have to organize who will be going to what node. He/she will want to form groups for each node that are compatible with each other. Making a group of rogues and one delicate teammate is probably not a good idea. The enemy will see only see that one poor fellow, and he will die before he can be of much use. Your knowledge of party dynamics will be more keen with experience. It may be as simple as putting a healer in each group, or as complicated as knowing that warlock loves to have a mage around, because a mage\'s snares complement a warlock\'s inabilty to escape. \r\n\r\nstacking the nodes: most simple minded groups will simply divide their team into three equal groups and have one attack the mine, blacksmith, and lumber mill. A smarter group will \'stack\' the nodes. Stacking means putting more people on one or two nodes than another. i liked to stack the BS and LM, while taking away from mine. This means that we have a numerical advantage at two nodes, increasing our chances of getting two, while the enemy only gets one. Its also good to stack the important nodes, the BS and LM.\r\n\r\ngambling: when you stack, you gamble. If the other team stacks also, it\'s going to be one helluva gamble. if you know the other team likes to stack a node, it may be tactical to not send any there, and doubly stack the other nodes. For instance if someone knew i was going to stack BS and LM, he could doubly stack BS, stack the mine, and send none to LM. Then he\'ll probably win the mine and BS, and all i\'ll get is the LM.\r\n\r\nstacking is one of the most basic and most important principles in AB. always stack, unless you think you can plow and roll over the enemy no contest.\r\n\r\nMID-GAME and OFFENSIVE MANUEVERS\r\n\r\nthe 3-2 hold: many times the conservative team will hold 3 nodes, and simply wait for the resources to pile up. This is the slowest kind of game, a war of attrition. \r\n\r\nbreaking the 3-2: you\'re not going to break a 3-2 against a good team with a simple zergfest. They will just as easily reinforce the node your team zerged. What you\'ll need to do is shake the enemy, confuse him, forcing him to send too many or too little. You can confuse him by two methods: feint, or double attack. What you must first do though, is tell your team to ressurect first, discuss plans and not move. It is important your team takes a breather, and make sure they move coordinated. Just tell your team, \'freeze, no one do anything, i got a plan and listen up.\' \r\n\r\nfeinting: feint means to pull a fake move. In boxing, it\'d be a half executed punch, making the enemy think its a real punch. In AB, it means riding out near a node, and making the enemy say \'incoming x node y enemies.\' Feinting will confuse the enemy, making the caller callout wrong incomings, too many incoming, or garble. You can tell when they called an incoming when reinforcements start showing up. After you\'ve lured your enemies to where you want, you can ride off to another node, or do a double attack.\r\n\r\ndouble attack: in a double attack, you\'ll need to scout out two nodes at least and figure out how many defenders are at each. then you\'ll have to send out two teams, and attack those nodes simultaneously. Timing is critical. If one team arrives too early and gets slaughtered, the other team will probably not be able to hold their node for long. Double attack is usually best followed by a feint, using one team as fodder, and the other to cap a remote node. A \'team\' can even be one person. For instance i\'ve soloed nodes guarded by 3 people in AB many times before. If you know a teammate is capable of defeating many enemies by himself, use that to your advantage.'),(1402,'3bc9db754a','To you patch, I say bleh.','The elves have pleaded to weaken me, but my resolve will not falter. This, I promise you. \r\n\r\nHowever, they have devised another means of keeping me from the field of battle. \r\n\r\nMy Blizzard Downloader is at 0 percent, and remains there. \r\n\r\nI beseech your aid!'),(1403,'7c0475d924','','Mine gets stuck at 83% and wont go any farther!!! :evil:'),(1404,'44ee401bf6','New Builds post 1.11','Mage (Ice):\r\n\r\n[url]http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZMZiiGIsftAo[/url]\r\n\r\n\r\nDruid (Feral):\r\n\r\n[url]http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?MZEggscrdtx0b[/url]'),(1405,'6e591a8c36','','Alright, there\'s some sort of problem here perhaps that could be remedied if I knew more about opening ports and firewalls. I\'ve been reading the technical support  forums to try to figure out a quicker way around this patch (5 percent of 151 downloaded in two hours) but I havn\'t found a mirror site to grant me a better speed.\r\n\r\nSo, if anyone\'s having a similar problem, let me know. If there\'s a guru who knows the tricks of the trade, let me know too please.'),(4010,'f98b4be1cf','FSE Officer Vent','Hey, setup a private channel on our new Vent server for officers.\r\n\r\nWhen you go in it should prompt you for a pw, that pw is rabitesucks    \r\n\r\n\r\n:)'),(1406,'4332f24fa2','','I finally went to fileshack, the wait is horrid though. But in the last hr Ive only got 3% more from blizzard and Im about to start downloading from there. The wait time now is about 3hrs to start downloading from fileshack unless you wanna cough up $7 then I dont think there is any wait, but Im cheap. I need that $7 for beer later. :P'),(1407,'5e6cdb3947','i could be wrong','i could be wrong on this, i ran with him , wrell, and o...something or other and it was painful.  I can try to get it straight,, but i say boot him.'),(1409,'b215a94aa9','','Veine(Warrior), Temblor, and I all need it'),(1410,'d37e045d2a','Gemeshkon\'s Application','[b:d37e045d2a]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:d37e045d2a] my friend kanaheruc is in it and i heard its a good instance guild\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Character Class/Style:[/b:d37e045d2a]  druid feral spirit \r\nlvl 50\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Talent Build:[/b:d37e045d2a]  feral\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Gear:[/b:d37e045d2a]  most rare most speced in spirit\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]MC Attuned:[/b:d37e045d2a]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]BWL Attuned:[/b:d37e045d2a]  No\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Onyxia keyed:[/b:d37e045d2a]  No\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Sponsor:[/b:d37e045d2a]  \r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:d37e045d2a]  6-10pm\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]What raid experience do you have?[/b:d37e045d2a]  ive been in some\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:d37e045d2a]  behemoths-cool but got bored\r\nbleak-noob\r\nIredale-small\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:d37e045d2a]  healing\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:d37e045d2a]  4 months\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:d37e045d2a]  enchanting- only lvl 110\r\n\r\n[b:d37e045d2a]What is your goal ingame?[/b:d37e045d2a]  get to 60'),(1411,'5d5ea13c75','think he may need some more exp.','i think he may need a little more exp.'),(1413,'176015d5f8','','[b:176015d5f8]What is your goal ingame?[/b:176015d5f8] get to 60'),(1414,'8dc875f5dc','','Ummm\r\n\r\n\r\nNo Vote\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1415,'a146894d75','','group with him last nite as fuzzynips. along with zuwani,ahkcs and xanar.  he seems like a good guy, except he did mention something about having ally characters as alts.... but i like him'),(1416,'a6b987ec85','','did amalo post on forums? No shit!  funny shit bro'),(1418,'44eb89dfb2','Help me, Udiwan Kenazi. You\'re my only hope.','Alright, I know, I know, I\'m the guy who sort of sponsors the &quot;You arn\'t the droid we\'re looking for&quot; themes, hell bent on determining a means of removing players who (and it\'s not my opinion alone I\'m fueled by, so don\'t go pulling that sword off the wall) seem to generally present a personality style that makes you want to stand on the other side of the room squinting your eyes. \r\n\r\nNow, as an officer of the guild, I kind of revert in some ways to definitions of the role set forth by previous games I played and clubs I participated in. \r\n\r\nOne of the main functions as an officer was of course to lead events. Another one you find yourself caught up in is solving disputes and conflict between members. You become the question answerer for people with problems about the guild, and so on.\r\n\r\nNow, another role was the &quot;moderator&quot; of the atmosphere. Guilds had charters and set &quot;rules of conduct&quot; that officers enforced. Though, the word &quot;enforce&quot; is a bit much, since these codes of conduct are generally the same you\'d think most people possess. \r\n\r\nBut every now and then, you\'d get a friend of a friend\'s group mate into your guild, and find that they\'re one of the biggest sleezebags you could ever imagine finding at the pop can deposit area of your local Safe Way. \r\n\r\nSo, we have some members that I believe a good deal of players can\'t stand. Not even a handful, but they\'re bad enough to warrant removing. The only thing that\'s keeping them acting like morons in FSE...is inaction. \r\n\r\nThese players might ask for the guild to do something for them, heck, they might ask for it a lot. Even all the time. You, reading this, can probably even think of a few names whom you would never, ever invite to a group of your choosing. \r\n\r\nSo, let\'s hammer out the means of proposing removals. Not just for players in their trial period, but players who are beyond that period. \r\n\r\nI\'d even let this leak into the creation of a recruitment council (which you may very well not want someone like me on, with a hair trigger no vote gun.)\r\n\r\nBut for now, I\'d just like to see what we\'ve got going in terms of how to be rid of a player.'),(2552,'f94b2c378e','','The part I like most about this is I would like to have an idea of how many active 60s we have'),(1420,'1f62119c84','Taures is on that priest again!','sup ladies and mangs! i have been doing alot of thinking about how i can best help the guild. thinking about my play style and limited gaming skill.\r\nso i thought what characters are always needed.  in a raid, warriors and priests are an absolute. as most of you  prolly noticed i\'ve been spending alot of time playing an alt, a priest. i have really enjoyed him and i think it would be a benefit for the guild to have another priest. of course taures is always there for raids and other things that he would be needed for.\r\nso to make along story short, i have decided to lvl my priest to 60 and make him my raid character, of course he will be holy specced at around 50-55. then i will switch taures to ele/enhance build and he will become my pvp/farm character, until then taures will be resto with 31 points dedicated to healing. if you have any questions or comments please feel free to post them. i just wanted everyone to know that i haven\'t forgotten my duties as a counsil member or a member of this guild. just trying to enjoy the game to the fullest and help the guild at the same time.\r\nsee you in game! anyone for a lbrs run?'),(1421,'4950099bd4','','Added 06/21/06'),(1422,'1ff4938272','Baeloc\'s 1.11 build','Here it is.\r\n\r\nThough I might drop impact for points in Master of Elements if possible.\r\n\r\nThis build is all about POM/AP/PYRO for PVP btw.\r\n\r\n[url=http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mages/talents.html?2050050310231531555200012000000000000000000000000]Blow it up\r\n[/url]\r\n\r\nAnd here\'s a link to the macro for the POM/AP/PYRO....\r\n\r\n[url]http://fse.luniz.org/viewtopic.php?t=103&amp;highlight=script+stop[/url]'),(1423,'55af7c9782','Warr- Patch 1.11','Well, as most of you have read what they did to shield slam on this patch.  I have a mod that calculates threat, and seems to be accurate.  As far as threat/rage spent, this ability has improved significantly and is now actually usable for a tank.  I\'m thinking i have found a rage dump to replace hs.  at only 8 more rage than my hs, its a free attack with loads more threat.'),(1424,'e901feca93','','This is probably a moot point anymore, but I had a problem with the downloader this morning as well.  I have the required ports open in my router, but after just sitting there at like 82% for 10 mins the bliz downloader would say &quot;it appears you\'re behind a firewall.&quot;  I just let it run forever and at some point it just started downloading very very slowly and finally finished.  My guess is that they had some kind of a problem with the whole process or maybe they changed the ports the downloader is using without advising anyone.'),(1425,'6dd3fc60df','','Wow, they even got theirs updated quicker than Bliz did!  Gotta love it baby.\r\n\r\nSo, I assume those are your talents, Dis?  someone told me you used Omen and swore by it.  I see NO points in Balance though...  Been trying to decide what I\'m going to do with my Druid alt and just have a hard time putting 5 ponts into (crap) Nature\'s Grasp and then another 5 points into only a semi decent talent, Natural Weapons,  to get to Omen.  I think my talents will mirror yours closely except I already decided to put 5 pts into Furor instead of Imp Mark of the Wild.  Oh yes, and I won\'t be able to put the two points into Imp Rage, as much as I\'d like to, because I\'ve already gone with Imp Shred, which I think I\'d rather have.\r\n\r\nJust for fun, here are my lock talents.  I\'ve never respeccd, and there are a few glaring errors including one accidental mouse click on Imp Drain Life.  But, this is the character I learned this game with and all in all I\'m relatively happy with my choices.  Next time us locks get a respec, though, I\'m going to fix the glaring errors and may switch a few points around to see about improving my DPS a bit.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AEMd0RZZxE0trztz'),(1426,'c750348669','Kraygien\'s destro lock booty','[url=http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AEMd0RZZxE0trztz]Kray\'s current build[/url] using Wowhead or [url=http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlocks/talents.html?55022100120000000000000000000000005055005122015101]Bliz\'s version[/url] of the talent calculator.\r\n\r\nThere are a few changes I\'ll one day make with this build.  First and foremost the point in Imp Drain LIfe (Affliction tree) will have to go.  That was an accidental mouse click.  I may also take the four points out of Grim Reach Imp Drain Soul and and the one in Amplify Curse in favor of spending more in the destro tree.\r\n\r\nI\'m considering moving all 5 pts in aftermath (destro tree) to Emberstorm and taking the point out of Pyroclasm.  I have mixed feelings on this last decision, but I may free up the two points in Destructive Reach as well.  I may play on a test server a bit to see how much I\'d miss destructive reach and Grim Reach.  Anyway, freeing those points up would allow me to shove 5 points in Imp Searing Pain.\r\n\r\nUltimately I\'d be looking at something like [url=http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AE0bZZxx0trgtt]this build[/url],  [url=http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AE0bZsZxx0tbxtt]this one[/url] or something inbetween or similar.\r\n\r\nThe only thing I really don\'t like about being so heaving into destro is that it\'s all FIRE.  Once you hit fire resistant or especially fire immune mobs it\'s just yucky to the max.\r\n\r\nI do want to start a second lock with a different build, but Kray has always and will most probably always be destro.'),(1427,'e2b3a5ebdc','Raid Interface','Yo, checkout the new raid interface stuff.  Going to make marking targets for CC and offtanking alot easier once Dread gets it down.  Also has a built in ready check and some other features.\r\n\r\nPretty neat shit.'),(1428,'04b266f256','','Is this in the factory WoW UI? Or a CT Mod?\r\n\r\nz'),(1429,'81c744a067','','[quote:81c744a067]Those of you that play with your significant other I say &quot;Good job and kudos.&quot; You\'ll never face the ultimate class in WoW but I\'m sure you\'ll get in more uninterrupted time. [/quote:81c744a067]\r\n\r\nYou\'d think so, wouldn\'t you?  :)'),(1430,'62a45145d8','','I say we need a system.\r\n\r\nHere is my idea...\r\n\r\nWe handle it just like we handle apps. We vote. Nominations for guild removal can be submitted by Officers and Counsel members only. We will handle them in Officer/Counsel Chat only. Once the nominee receives five ‘yes’ votes, that ‘sucka’ is removed. Of course the one nominating our lucky contestants should tell us all why the ‘sucka’ should be removed, please be specific, yet brief…Dread.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1431,'54252b046c','','Toooo funny!!\r\n\r\nThis is why I keep 2 stacks of 10 dishes handy. I am also spect in Aura of Dusting...\r\n\r\nWife Agro, bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1432,'3a9aa66d71','','This is in the factory UI and you can read more about it in the [URL=http://fse.luniz.org/Patch.html]patch notes [/URL]'),(1433,'219bef8c5a','','/laugh\r\n[quote:219bef8c5a]please be specific, yet brief…Dread[/quote:219bef8c5a]'),(1434,'28f83c2d4e','','Ugh.\r\n\r\nI didn\'t read that far, I only got to the \'Professions&quot; part.  :mrgreen: \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1435,'e73a2a57d3','','Bah :)'),(1436,'5d4bc92391','','It looks like my comedic brilliance is getting in the way.\r\n\r\nWhat do you think of the system?\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1437,'2c3ba06be3','','My issue with Omen is I always forgot to activate it, friggen every 5 mins, but I might go back to it.'),(1438,'94f92a8375','Back with Omen','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?zzLV0oZxMgscMdtA'),(1439,'a7318dc9bc','','And who the hell is Udiwan Kenazi?\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1440,'1098ae21eb','','It\'s a good premise, I think. We need to hear from more. \r\n\r\nBeing able to remove problem players from the equation is pretty important to keeping the guild stable and enjoyable for all.\r\n\r\nSo, this should be an important enough subject for all of us to have feelings about. \r\n\r\n\r\nI\'m just one officer suggesting some emphasis on the process of removing members. Am I alone in this concern, I wonder.'),(1441,'8d038366c9','','i have no problem workin a system that is fair and we hold all to it.  Because like i said before if a &quot;cringe&quot; when someone types in Guild chat = bootin  I got one hell of a long list for /gkick....  I also worried if not enough communication happens to possible kickee  we look like power mongers.  I say if council or officer brings someone to possible /gkick its their responsablity to have a conversation with that person and voice concerns and such and if no common ground can be meet then kick their ass i say\r\n\r\nCuz right now I feel its &quot;I want a title till it has a cost&quot;  Well I am sick of the vibe kinda being I want this guy out Uda take care of it,  not how its gonna be.  Officers/Council vote um in they gotta be involoved in takin um out\r\n\r\n\r\nMy two centos'),(1442,'5c4fbc76cd','','raided with him last nite, awesome guy'),(1443,'4540a5e603','','It ALMOST makes CTRaid obsolete, except I didn\'t see anything in there about having designated main tank targets and I\'m sure Blizzard will never incorporate the CTRaid boss warning mods into their default UI.'),(1444,'f2c231d181','','I think that sounds simple and makes sense.  We need something in place to remove people from our exclusive club.  We can try it on Baeloc first to see if it works!\r\n\r\nMy reason is he still owes me a million dollars and hasn\'t paid up.  I can\'t stand liars.'),(1445,'b76924a6b7','ummm','It makes sence to have the ability to kick the bad apples out of the basket, yet we need to make sure we aren\'t tossing the green ones out in the prosess.  Some people I think just need to be spoken with about what is appropriate and what is not.  \r\n\r\nThat being said, it is hard to warrent kicking someone just because they are annoying.  Part of the primiss of a guild is to have a support network where everyone helps each other out, as well as have freinds and people to hang out with.  I know that I cringe at some people, yet I am sure some cringe at me.  Overall, I have not personnaly seen anyone being mean, rude, boligerant, or overall an asshole in chat.  I have seen people whining, spamming, and grubling though.  I think the latter can be addressed to individuals when they do this in private chat about how their behavior is effecting the rest of the guild.  I know that when I have had some people in vent, I have asked them to come to a specific channel in order to avoid them annoying the masses.   \r\n\r\nI guess I am a believer that most people just need to build up experience and be told thier boundries before they understand what they are.  In general, people who spam for help and fail to gain any will leave on their own.  Most people can tell when they are not welcome.'),(2132,'48aca21ceb','lets do it','I for one am interested in new contect.  I have been occupied with a new house and wife needing me to hang everything from curtains, pictures, and if it continues myself.  Hopefully I\'ll be able to start to raid on a more normal schedule soon, but fo rth enext week or two it will probably only be a couple nights a week for now.  \r\n\r\nThe idea of being able to run more content is a boost to my desire to put off the wife and play more wow.'),(1447,'ca95546451','what the hell','Having an ally alt kind of puts him in the same boat with people who drive acura\'s, but I am wiling to give him a try.  to me it will depend on how he intereacts with the guild, and how often he plays and how much he reaches out to be part of the group, but I would give him a noob shot.'),(1448,'d9f33ecf58','for clearity','my statement was a NO, not at this time, but please try again later.'),(1450,'59afa1fc98','','i would like to see some sort of definition worked out for what is unacceptable behavior. \r\n\r\nannoying in guild chat? no offense but that would be a shit ton of our group, and then were would we be come ZG day.  \r\n\r\npoor instance behavior and playing skill? i know i have wiped a group or two in my time, but i have tried to learn from my mistakes.  \r\n\r\nmisrepresenting fse to pugs and such? i certainly dont want some one causing people to think fse is a load of ass-hats, but how do you monitor that?\r\n\r\ni like the idea of having a chat with the offender, as to who does this i am not sure.  i hear uda when he says he doesnt want people whinning to him to boot people, but i also dont think the accuser should be giving the chat.\r\nif there is bad blood between people, that might just make it worse.  \r\nmaybe a discussion thread about the issue, followed up with the guild massa assigning an officer who is on the friendliest terms with the offender to have a talk with them.\r\n\r\nmight also be helpful to have a posted guild code of conduct...something simple and to the point i.e.  dont group with strangers to ninja loot, listen to pointers from officers, learn your classes role.\r\n\r\ni dont know..my 2 cents'),(1451,'c99be8b46f','','So the proposal is 5 votes to support a removal. \r\n\r\nA post will be made describing the problem with the player. \r\n\r\nIf the vote is not unanimous, the officer/council member (or plural) who votes to give the player another chance and perhaps offer some help to the player so that they can keep their membership, said officer/council member can approach the candidate for removal and explain the situation. In the thread it can be determined if a second chance is worth it. \r\n\r\nSound good? \r\n\r\nSafe to say any member I put up for no vote is miles away from any opportunity to sit down and talk with me, as part of the main problem is that they have the mind of a child. The less immature children we have in FSE, the better.'),(1452,'3af918b3cf','','I could help draw up a guild charter with codes of conduct after we post our feelings on just what kind of conduct we\'re looking for to set as a standard. Our views likely won\'t always fall along the same line. \r\n\r\nThe level of degree for &quot;bad&quot; I\'m talking about here, the level that would make players elligible for removal...let\'s just assume it\'s bad enough to be a degree higher than the normal &quot;This member\'s kind of annoying generally&quot; status. \r\n\r\nThis isn\'t power mongering, this is cleaning house. I can think of two members currently that I\'d warrant removing. Two. Not a huge number, but they\'re also names that I recieve complaints often.'),(1453,'f8c190264c','','yes yes and yes  \r\n\r\n\r\n:)'),(1454,'ce2f0f424b','','I think used along with CT raid it\'ll be even better, having the raid leader designate targets more quickly will be a plus.  But boss notifications in CT will still be very helpful.'),(1456,'a6a90e2b32','Tsiik\'s sm\'ruin','ok so yeah im an sm/ruin lock. that means that most likely i have higher dps than everyone else, or so i hear. If i ever got on at the right times to raid with people maybe i could check with a dps meter. Anyways if anyone wants to see my spec its http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlocks/talents.html?35002033122011250000000000000000005050005122000100\r\npost comments if ya feel like it\r\noh and btw that might not be the exact spec and theres probably some mistakes in how the points are spent slightly but the important stuff is there, got imp shadow bolt, sm, ruin, and siphon life'),(1457,'28216da7a0','Guess Who!','I am finally on the forums \r\n\r\n\r\nNow to Ruin everyone\'s life.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nP.S. I usually do not spell correctly or us .,!\'s every once in a while i will though :)\r\n\r\nHave a Nice Day It Could Be Your Last!'),(1458,'b69ecf8588','','Welcome :)'),(1459,'a8f30c0c69','my take','I like this idea my only take would be the one bringing the person up to vote, doesnt have a vote when it comes to kicking them.  In other words say if i wanted to kick gnomebiter i would bring it up speak my case then it would take 5 other people backing my play to have him removed.  Other then that i got no beefs with any of it.'),(1460,'bcfa980b59','','Sounds fair. \r\n\r\n*mutters a little* \r\n\r\n...have to leave it up to all you wishy washies to drive the dagger home. Hmph.'),(1461,'946736da1e','','no for me'),(1462,'d8552f4ea8','','i liked most of his answers, seems to have pretty good exp, and has played a while too. 2 weeks'),(1463,'7eecfc5a13','','I guess the two week trial but if he\'s all about &quot;getting endgame gear&quot; we may not be what he\'s looking for.  \r\n\r\nIt seems a couple people vouching for him is good though so if he fits in, it\'d be all good.  \r\n\r\nTentative yes vote'),(1464,'273241117e','Rologan\'s Ultimate Holy-Roller Priest build','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxghoZfEzhbMqt'),(1465,'5b17c8182e','ok','I really like the idea of a code of conduct.  warlorc had some great points.  Can anyone give an example of a no nonsense bootable crime.  I know in officer chat there is often banter about players, (exp. last night when people were in ZG...madcow or what the fuck his name is was obviously bugging people) but from the outside looking in, just hearing one side of the conversation, (officer chat) what was discribed, didn\'t seem that bad.  From what I could gather, he wanted a shot at playing MT or some greater responsibility.  He obviously is a little younger, or has a huge ego, but then again so do i.  Was his playing justifiable to boot?  In my experience, I have not seen any clear reason to boot anyone yet, other than on the grounds that their play sucks. ie. kana...(cant remeber).  When i have been running with people, everyone has be freindly and i havn\'t seen anyone need roll when they shouldn\'t have.  I guess I am curious to see who dreads frist two back balls are for.'),(1466,'59d3622e79','','Black actors man.'),(1467,'70942a4ba0','','That\'s what I thought too... until I tried SM/DS. It takes a huge adjustment in playstyle, but other than non-AV PVP I think it\'s superior. Being able to have imp corr and siphon life on 5 mobs/alli at once helps me spit SBs like mad. And the health regen means I get essentially infinite mana, and saves a load on downtime. Not to mention easier aggro management in raids. Hell, last saturday I was able to solo my way past the caverns part of Uldaman (still couldn\'t find the farking enchanting trainer though).\r\n\r\nThat being said, I [b:70942a4ba0]really[/b:70942a4ba0] miss conflag. \r\n\r\nI\'d post my build, but I\'m at work and both bliz and wowhead are blocked. Basically it\'s a cookie cutter SM/DS build.\r\n\r\n-Cth\r\n\r\nPs. Personally I preferred conflag/nightfall for all out dps, but my mana pool just never seemed big enough.'),(1468,'59d3b12522','','Talked to this guy in game today, he was wondering on status of his app, so if we could get some more votes either way it would be good. :)'),(1469,'a39c64d61a','','I found the enchanting trainer in Uldaman about a week ago.  I could show you where it is.'),(1470,'e66b742207','The Code of Conduct brainstorming thread','So, we\'re considering typing up a guild charter that contains a code of conduct. This can be something by which we justify and measure behavior that we deem unacceptable to the overall good of the guild atmosphere. \r\n\r\nI was thinking of writing a little one up to be posted on our home area, but the problem with that woulid be it would be &quot;Dreadwind\'s code of conduct&quot; which I don\'t think none of you neccessarily want since I seem to be the most strict among us. :) \r\n\r\nWhat I think would be best is if some officers and council members typed up a few things they think would be important to include in a code of conduct.\r\n\r\nHere you can voice what type of attitude or behavior is something we don\'t want in our guild chat or even guild member. You can voice even what you don\'t find to be an admirable trait in a guild member.\r\n\r\nThe code of conduct can mention things we don\'t tolerate, and it can also demonstrate what we\'re sort of striving for. It can give examples of frowned upon behavior (such as selfish &quot;the game is all about me, and I log on to see if people will do things for me&quot; themes) and how we like to present ourselves while in pick up groups for reputation\'s sake.'),(1471,'886bf41539','','1. Very unstable internet connection.  I remember the 1st time he came with us to ZG, would not leave to let someone else in.  He was DC\'d most of the run.  This wasnt the only time he was DC\'d for a long period of time on a raid.  &quot;omfg 30000000 lag&quot;\r\n2. &quot;Will give my left nut if &lt;item&gt; drops&quot; on ZG runs.\r\n3. 14yrs old.  Dont get me wrong, some people may enjoy the non-stop &quot;have the invites started for ZG yet?????????!???!?!?!?&quot; or &quot;you will save me a spot, right????&quot;.'),(1472,'d8e364cbe3','barbies ideas for code of conduct','1) be nice to others..no language that is attacking or is ment to hurt people, insults, and spreading personal fealings about others in guild chat, o ron te forums (unless in boot discussion)   exp.  your a shitty player and nobody likes you. go fuck off. v. funning aroud.  lick balls pussy.\r\n\r\n2) Not listening to repeated instructions from raid leaders.  obviously this can be done by booting from raid, but if a reoccuring issue, from guild\r\n\r\n3) stealing in PUGs.  We should maintain a reputation of standup people.  Members should not be need rolling on loot they dont need, and people should not join raids, and then bail on them once they get their goods from it.  exp. (dropping out of UBRS after rend, unless previoously discussed with the raid leader your intentions)  we should not leave others out to dry or no FSE will get invited to PUG\'s.\r\n\r\n4) DONT BE A DICK!\r\n\r\nthats about it.'),(1473,'39a9f4b08b','noob','Many of us have limitations on our playing time, work, school, or wife agro.  i say give him a shot and see what he is like.'),(1474,'3cb26487ce','Application add on (rough)','Ok, I\'ll throw this out as a start. Feel free to add, edit, or negate from it. \r\n\r\n\r\nWelcome and thanks for your interest in joining our guild &quot;Fer Shizzle Enterprises&quot;. \r\n\r\nPlease take the time to fill out the following application. We use these applications to get to know what kind of player, and more importantly, what kind of person you are. A vague application gives us very little to go on, and so we appreciate the effort you put into yours. The effort you put into this application will help reflect on the effort you intend to bring into the guild to help us grow. \r\n\r\nFirst, a little about FSE. We have existed through-out multiple online games, our most recent having been Star Wars Galaxies, with some members having had experience in Everquest as well. We possess many members who know one another in &quot;real life&quot; (this includes many members who are couples, as well as families). We\'re here to have fun and help one another achieve our individual goals, as well as advance to newer content in the game as a group. Currently we\'re working on mastering Zul Gurub and Ahn\'Quiraj, but our roster is nearing the strength to allow for guild-only Molten Core runs as well.  For loot distribution, we use a dkp system that is based primarily on rewarding by attendance.\r\n\r\nNew initiates of the guild go through a two week &quot;get to know you&quot; period, during which you are on a &quot;probationary status&quot;. This means that raid spots and elligibility for rewards goes first to full members before initiates. After two weeks, full membership is approved by officers and council. \r\n\r\n\r\n1. Tell us (in at least three sentences) about yourself and what you enjoy most about the game. This can range from wether or not you\'re a Dallas Mavericks fan, to having an irrational hatred for female gnomes derived from a bad relationship in the past.\r\n\r\n2. What other guilds have you been in, and what is it about them that wasn\'t right for &quot;you&quot;? This may include what you thought a past guild lacked, or something you didn\'t like about it that it had.\r\n\r\n3. If you were watching Top Gun, would you fast forward through the vollyball scene, or lean forward, intently humming along to the song?Explain.\r\n\r\n4. Describe the most fun you\'ve had in World of Warcraft to date, or perhaps tell us what you think would be something you look forward to.\r\n\r\n5. What CD is currently in your car stereo (or home stereo)? Is it a tape? Be honest...!\r\n\r\n6. Define what it is you\'re looking for in a guild.'),(1475,'903e0e42e3','Applicants','I overheard on vent last night that the person who invited Nairdaeus to the guild should have explained stuff to him then, such as the 2 week trial, last dibs on raid spots if any, etc.  I would have thought that the person who told him about the application form would have explained some stuff to him.  But I dont think everyone knows everything that needs to be told to new applicants.  So, I propose that everything that needs to be explained to new applicants be listed in Uda\'s [URL=http://fse.luniz.org/viewtopic.php?t=177]FSE Guild Application Form[/URL] post so that they can read about the process, and know the rules.  The current one seems a bit thin.\r\n\r\nMaybe we can have Dreadwind buff it up ;^)\r\n\r\nAlso, maybe we could schedule at least 1 day a week to run with new applicants to see how they perform.  And those that do should make note on the application of how the applicant performed, good or bad.\r\n\r\nAnother thing that maybe we can do is set a specific day of the week to perform invites into the guild.  Lately, I seem to be bombarded with messages from other members about applicants that already have 3 votes and havent been invited yet, such as Nairdaeus the other night.  I dont think alot of the new members know who all are Officers/Council to talk about things like this.\r\n\r\n&quot;it\'s been 2 days since he filled out his application and already has 3 yes votes, but has not been invited yet, and we need to get him in asap because he has applications put in at other guilds too.&quot;'),(1476,'34059afe38','','Sounds good, we\'ll need to have some means of displaying who the officers and council members in the guild are.\r\n\r\nI myself have been unsure of who to invite and when in some cases, and usually I frown on doing the inviting at all (since I don\'t want to be responsible for letting a lot of these dweebs in!:) )\r\n\r\nIf a member\'s applying to another guild....that, to me, is sort of a strike against them. It may be up to us to be more expedient and efficient after their app recieves the right feedback, but if they\'re trying to get milk from ...other...mammary glands...in...the hay loft...shriveled...nipples\r\n\r\nargh, my metaphors have failed me.'),(1477,'c797c6ffd7','','[quote:c797c6ffd7]I guess I am curious to see who dreads frist two back balls are for.[/quote:c797c6ffd7]\r\n\r\nback balls being akin to a tea bag?'),(1478,'61ff8f00bc','','an invite day either weekly , biweekly, or monthly would be a good idea..it would give a deadline for votes on new apps and will insure that those we do want get timely invites.\r\n\r\nplus if people were invited on a set time the two week trial period would be easeier to keep track of.\r\n\r\nspeaking of votes, is there any criteria to guide us on who we want in the guild(i.e. more mages, more dps, level 60s, blood relatives of current guild members, italians in general, those that speak swahili)..or are we revuing each an every app as a seperate situation?'),(1479,'c35c606987','','I think those questions are what we\'re looking for Dread.  Plus, I have to admit I\'m a fan of the volleyball scene.  Playing beach volleyball in jeans just makes sense ya know?\r\n\r\nGreat job!'),(1480,'138bc75716','','I say yes.  School kids aren\'t all bad and he put SOME effort into the app which is more than I can say for students I have.'),(1481,'395e3ac661','','I feel when his 2 week period is up (isn\'t it yet?) that he doesn\'t make the cut.  Between the points listed above I have yet to see him help anyone and only require others to assist him.  I don\'t think he\'s a bad guy at all but not what we\'re looking for.  \r\n\r\nI think the 2 week trial has served it\'s purpose and tryouts are over.  Now the coaches gotta deliver the bad news to some.'),(1482,'4eca915443','','Give him a shot.\r\n\r\nYes vote\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1483,'563394366e','','I vote yes on Dreads system with Shabbys slight change.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1484,'32eb39a3a0','','Looks awsome Dread. \r\nI have two requests. Can you please add \'Tape\' as one of the options to question 5, and lets give them only one number 5 instead of two.\r\n\r\nAproved by Zuwani'),(1485,'69acd44145','Hello!','Just taking this time to say hello to all and hope to be questing with most of you soon...  :wink: \r\n\r\nNairdaeus'),(1486,'7d82c301b1','','It has been 3 weeks and 2 days'),(1487,'829e11941e','','According to this post, not counting me, he has 4 no votes.\r\n\r\nWe agreed on needing 5.'),(1488,'403a3e6663','','boot #5'),(1489,'eb32d98af0','','Our first player who didn\'t make the cut! *party hats, Lionel Richie music*'),(1490,'82bbd8ea5e','','Hey, \r\nLook forward to running with ya!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1491,'6613c10097','','It\'s good to have you here.  Hope to see you in a run soon!'),(1492,'d5ea31d3f5','Boulderfist is down','ummm.... 7:31 st.... see the title'),(1493,'ab4a5706ca','','FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY'),(1494,'bc4ecc76ed','','im gettin that the server has a population now, but i am not able to retrieve my character list'),(1495,'454303752f','','Does this mean you actually respecc\'d?  Or is this just what you\'d be going to if you did?'),(1496,'61713cdf6c','','I think we should just listen to the voice from above ( farwell ) and fuck UIs and Mods ....and priests ..who needs them !'),(1497,'a186314bf5','','population ?....0\r\nwtf,,,\r\nya \r\n0'),(1498,'418cfd1942','','hi! welcome to FSE!'),(1499,'f46cfb0a29','ZG, High Priestess Arlokk','I posted this thread on the WoW Warrior Forums yesterday...\r\n\r\nhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&amp;t=1088381&amp;tmp=1#post1088381\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1500,'c8b577083d','Rologan\'s Ultimate Disc/Holy Priest Build','http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxghcV0oZsEzcbMV'),(1501,'b608dbb809','','Love the sig Barek, er Rolo I mean!\r\n\r\n\r\nJiggaman'),(1502,'e29c623ffb','','wait a minute isnt farwell a ..priest!?!   i\'m so confused'),(1503,'b3e51dd8fa','','lol i will, im just too lazy to make a yahoo account :P'),(1504,'794081e22d','','[quote:794081e22d=\"Itchiz\"]I think we should just listen to the voice from above ( farwell ) and fuck UIs and Mods ....and priests ..who needs them ![/quote:794081e22d]I think you should just STFU !'),(1505,'f9f9ef3a17','Re: Guess Who!','[quote:f9f9ef3a17=\"Anibus\"]I am finally on the forums \r\n\r\n\r\nNow to Ruin everyone\'s life.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nP.S. I usually do not spell correctly or us .,!\'s every once in a while i will though :)\r\n\r\nHave a Nice Day It Could Be Your Last![/quote:f9f9ef3a17]Hello there Anibus !'),(1506,'c438f57a43','','Hello ;P'),(1507,'b22c4196be','LFG  scholo shaman quest','Hey all, \r\n\r\nI was wondering if we could get something going for the shaman scholo quest.\r\n\r\ncheck back or email me at  akeschmitz@gmailcom'),(1516,'0fa3d096b0','Melderly\'s Application','[b:0fa3d096b0]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:0fa3d096b0] I want to help out guild with raid. And i no how to get Keyed with everything\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Character Class/Style:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  Priest, lvl 51\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Talent Build:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  Holy/Discipline spec. Holy nova, Spirit of redemption,\r\n\r\nSpiritual guidence\r\n\r\nDisc-Inner focus, and eventually Divine Spirit\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Gear:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  Cassandras Grace+42 healing\r\nDragons Eye 15 Spirit, 6 stamina\r\nFeatherskin cape +4 stamina +4 Intellect +15 spirit\r\nClestial bindings of Healing +29 healing spells\r\ngloves of the Atal\'ai Prophet +5 str +6 stamina +20 spirit\r\ndevout belt- 4 stamina 20 intellect 9 spirit\r\nKilt of the Atal\'ai prophet  4 str 9 stamina 18 intellect 18 spirit\r\nFurens Boots  + 16 spirit 7 intellect\r\n\r\nRune of Protection  Decreases the magical resistances of you spell targets by 20\r\n\r\nDecreases the magical resistances of you spell targets by 20Decreases the magical resistances of you spell targets by 20Decreases the magical resistances of you spell targets by 20\r\nDecreases the magical resistances of you spell targets by 20\r\nBlessed prayer beads Use:increases healing odne by spells and effects by up to 190 for 20 seconds...2 minute cooldown\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]MC Attuned:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  No\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]BWL Attuned:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  No\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Onyxia keyed:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  No\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Sponsor:[/b:0fa3d096b0]  \r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  Pacific Time, and i can play anytime usually 6AM-whenever\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]What raid experience do you have?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  ON my brothers shaman, ZG,MC,AQ,Ubrs.\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  NoS,Clothing Optional, There is no cow level.\r\nLeft because not enough raids, didnt like the people very much.\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  I could be a great healer\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  2 years\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  Enchanting and Tailoring...my alt is leatherworking..for Armor kits\r\n\r\n[b:0fa3d096b0]What is your goal ingame?[/b:0fa3d096b0]  To help people to be the best, and get the best'),(1509,'e86b2a09ee','','Sorry, but this guy put in 2 apps, and the 1st one was denied.'),(1511,'b97d9911cd','','Yeah, I noticed the change in the way the panthers aggro. They used to start out aggro\'ing the warriors by proximity, not affected by the raid. You could stand in the corner opposite the haystack and the panthers would come to you, stealthed, but visible without need of any warlock affects or flare. Demoralizing shout did hold them. It\'s true, because I did it successfully. \r\n\r\nLast night when I did it, I noticed the panthers moved quickly along the gate (they used to not be so tight on the gate) and demorallizing shout was useless to get them to notice me initially. I still used it for the minor aggro, but it required swings. After enough were on me, it was all &quot;hope I can click them all&quot; keeping my mouse cursor where I thought best to catch them.\r\n\r\nBut yes, this makes panther control much harder than it once was. A tedious task!'),(1512,'2d70b8f12c','Application no votes','Would it be possible to create a set number of officer no votes, or council member no votes on an application to automatically send it to the denied stage? Or..is there already a number and I just don\'t know.'),(1515,'05f4a81243','','A misunderstanding of my message.:) But that is well and good!\r\n\r\nSo, three no votes and an application is denied. That would automatically send it to the denial area. Good!'),(1514,'18a779b409','','There is no way to have it automatically go to the denied forum.  The rule was 3 yes or no votes.'),(1517,'bcbb029092','','App isn\'t great, but it\'s a class we really need.  And he didn\'t like No Cow Level :)  I say trial just cause we need priests.\r\n\r\nYep vote.'),(1518,'fb1f6ad2e5','','We like healers!!\r\n\r\n\r\nYes Vote.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1519,'88fccf7be4','','he didn\'t write phat lootz and he didn\'t like the cow lvl, I like him already.\r\n\r\nYes vote.\r\n\r\nAnd he\'s a rockstar...I mean priest.'),(1520,'917cd2bddd','Here we go again. Subject: JTG','Well, my second target for &quot;You\'re not the droid we\'re looking for&quot; week that I believe would be universally accepted by many as elligible for removal from our special club is the level 60 shaman called JTG. \r\n\r\nIn groups, I recieve complaints that he\'s unreliable, uncooperative, doesn\'t listen or even play at an even below average level, and is basically just a pain in the ass. \r\n\r\nMy own experience with him? Well, in one of our first Zul Gurub raids during which he attended, he was a complete moron. I remember wanting badly to just remove him from the raid for the sake of everyone\'s retard meter. He never communicates anything that isn\'t really a statement you expect from the worst nephew in your family. Study him in guild chat, I have!\r\n\r\nSo, what do you all think about JTG? To me, everytime he speaks, all I hear is an E-40 voice saying &quot;tell me when to go&quot;.'),(1521,'773be06fcc','','Also, I believe he\'s from Bad Touch, and am pretty sure he\'s allied with Mairejaine. I\'ll check to see what other Touchers he\'s in good graces with.'),(1522,'30d4042877','','Ok this guy I am not a fan not at all.  He went afk at the raptor boss, and then just walked off the cliff as we waited for everyone to mana/life up and when I asked him why did you do that  his response.....&quot;I don\'t know&quot;\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I am still worried, I think we are at a very diffcult spot as a guild we could be in MC in a week or shouting LFG Scholo.  To come hard is a move that just scares me.  Let me say it one more time.    If bein a pain in my ass in guild chat or doing something in PuGs that make FSE look like asshats and being way more worried about self gain and never worrying about the whole of the guild are reasons they are gettin kicked we should kick all but  3 members.   We have had a memeber Ninja Pristine hide in a Pug  this week, we have had multiple outbursts in Guild chat that have been extremely foolish, yet none of these names get brought up.   Just the knob Jtg  and the 11 yr old  Knagsgjahdk (whatever his name is)\r\n\r\nSo for this issue I have tried time and time again to ask these questions....  What past being a pain have they done?  Who has talked to them explaining issues?  Who voted for them and have we learned a lesson?  If they are both former TBT (which they are) why dont they get the free pass like all the others? (you can pop off about them filling out apps but they where TBT and filled out apps)\r\n\r\nSince I cant get answers and it feels like all have decided then under protest I shall give Officers the ability to /gkick and I Want no part of these two /gkicks   You guys want them out then go for it but I aint happy about it and no one can make me be'),(1523,'a381a06453','','Well, I don\'t want to upset you of course! \r\n\r\nThe only thing I\'m after here is moderating the atmosphere, and yeah, we have goobers in the guild that probably need to learn a lesson or two. I\'m pointing out goobers that really stand out, and I\'m trying to go one at a time from bottom to the top. \r\n\r\nFSE needs to be regulated somewhat, because yes we have let players sneak in who personality wise are far and below the call of duty. So we either move to rid ourselves of them, or let them accumulate. Because they\'ll try to invite a friend, and he\'ll have everything in common with them...and then he\'ll try to invite a friend....\r\n\r\nMore players we would value would cheer for having a player like Kana removed then gripe. Those who gripe? Well...\r\n\r\nAnd we had a member ninja a pristine hide? Yikes. This is why! :)\r\n\r\nAnd I have to emphasize that while no one including myself is a golden child, the names being brought up are the &quot;bottom&quot; of the barrel. Not saying everyone but them\'s perfect, but they just leave a darker stain on the sheet. Considerably dark enough for me to pop out a post.\r\n\r\nI\'m watching other names too, but I\'m just trying not to be too much of a Colonel Klink. HoooOoOoogan!\r\n\r\nSome of the players I don\'t even expect to be here much longer on their own accord due to the kind of feedback they\'re inspring in guild chat alone.\r\n\r\nJTG and Kana have one thing in common that many names in the guild don\'t. Multiple members send me tells about them and describe dealings with them as well as their interactions with others.\r\n\r\nIt\'s bad. \r\n\r\nBut don\'t be vexed at meeee! Someone\'s gotta be &quot;that guy&quot; and it fits to be me. :)'),(1524,'81c5f30c28','','at least numa isn\'t this.\r\n\r\nwarning not exactly work safe:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1vcIRxxOfw'),(1525,'de0f470df1','','ok so i suck at this I hear my Son Dread thinks I am mad at him.......Not so\r\n\r\nI am glad dread is &quot;that guy&quot; lookin out for the guild......\r\n\r\nI am also not sayin i wouldnt like the day when FSE is a few fools less than we are now.......\r\n\r\nWhat I am askin is this  if you are an officer/council and one of these less than ummmmm  (edited cuz it wasnt nice)  people do something foolish, over the top, or just non FSE   DEAL WITH IT THEN talk to them tell them it is gonna go in front of council/officers and it may mean removal from guild right now i just feel like this could be a bit of a surprise attack.  Also lets get a workin plan on gettin that Code of conduct done so we have boundaries.\r\n\r\nPlease just see that every guild need a few of &quot;those&quot; guys I am just the one that looks long term and thinks about gettin us Higher and Higher till we touch the ceiling   ooooooooo dancin on the ceiling\r\n\r\nPlease take on an active role to fix I am tired of loggin on to   &quot;Hey Uda what we gonna do about  (insert name here)?&quot;   Take a role  sure some things may come as a surprise but most outbursts could be dealt with fast and hard just like i like my     ummmm  Batting practice\r\n\r\n\r\nSee you soon\r\n\r\n\r\nUDA out'),(1526,'a2c022b310','','To set the record straight, Kanaheruc was never in TBT.  He was only an app.'),(1527,'268c8b419c','','[quote:268c8b419c=\"Gricham\"]To set the record straight, Kanaheruc was never in TBT.  He was only an app.[/quote:268c8b419c]\r\n\r\nso you where there as TBT broke up?  Grich i dont remember that!\r\n\r\n\r\nhe was an app  they had i took as TBT  to me no different than any of the other TBT\r\n\r\nSo don\'t be that guy'),(1528,'4f61d1a6c6','','[quote:4f61d1a6c6]so you where there as TBT broke up?  Grich i dont remember that!\r\n\r\n\r\nhe was an app  they had i took as TBT  to me no different than any of the other TBT\r\n\r\nSo don\'t be that guy[/quote:4f61d1a6c6]\r\n\r\nI just asked Caanon tonight if Kanaheruc was ever in TBT and according to him, Kanaheruc was never in TBT.  If he had put in an app for TBT, I wouldnt know that.  I am just passing on what was told to me.'),(1529,'51d9effa57','','And as far as Ohnoez, he was the only person in the run who:\r\n\r\n1. had skinning\r\n2. had finkle\'s skinner\r\n3. had the skinning enchants\r\n\r\nDo we roll on arcane crystals that come off the mines in ZG when a miner gets one?'),(1530,'58a978816b','','You arent trying to justify takin a Pristine Hide?   Say it aint so....\r\n\r\nArcane crystal Waaayyyyy differnt than the hide.\r\n\r\nIt was ninja\'d  plain and simple\r\n\r\nThe party got noez there \r\n\r\ndont think skinner or enchant would help noez solo the beast\r\n\r\nWoW  all i can say is WoW'),(1531,'312b8cd19c','Ok','Reading this over i have a few things that i would like to say.  First of all i get more annoyed with some of the new peeps more then most. Many of the people i talk to regularly can tell you since they get the rash of tells i send asking things like &quot; Did he really just ay that&quot;.  In my 25 wonderful years of life the one of the things that has been shown to me over and over is, me and some people just dont click.   Although i do not find this a reason to kick people out of a gaming pool guild.  Would i hang out with jtg, kan, and many many others in real life. NO WAY IN HELL but even i can ignore their stupid ranter in guild chat.  See the thing that makes me laugh is do these people frusterate me yes but maybe i have been lucky in the fact that i really only see them in all there glory once a week tops.  WE have other members that fill guild chat with their stupidity on a daily basis that we dont even bring up.  Reason for that being is they are either tied to someone else that we dont want to offend or one of the core brought them in and maybe we dont want to call that out.  All im saying that if we want to make the system that dread talked about work it has to be fair and being annoyed with someone for guild ranter is not a reason i will ever back as a reason for a guild kick.  If i did that then FSE would have 50 members tops with half being alts.  So if this is the step we are going to take i vote we have an officer meeting to hammer out what exact guildines we want to set with activities a person can do forcing us to remove them from the guild.\r\n\r\nOff the subject of the actual post i would just like to put in my 2 cents about the hide.  If one does not see this as a straight out ninja im not sure if you have ever actually read the WOW forums.  I cant even remember back when it was a very very very wanted item how many posts were &quot;HECTOR NINJAS HIDE&quot;.  So as a server i thought it was widely known that if the hide falls its a roll for the group.  Even as a guild we always went in to ubrs not even questioning that if the hide fell it was a random roll not the skinners, this wasnt talked about just how the hide was handled.   With the statement of comparing the hide to a crystal first of all ZG is guild run not a PUG second if you want to go to that extreme of a comparison then everytime they skin we need to roll for the thick, rugged, bat, tiger and panter leather cause that is more comparable then a crystal to the hide.'),(1532,'7305a5f7c5','Vacation eh?','I\'m going to Canadia for about a week.  Gotta...err get out of the country for....reasons.\r\n\r\nMy official statement will be I\'m going to Whistler with some friends and we\'ll see you soon.  See ya\'ll real soon!'),(1533,'36690042ff','got to defend o on this one','If nobody else can skin it,  why would he not get it?  sure it sells for a crap load, but if it was a pug and nobody had it then he should get to have it.  If someone else was a tailor, on DM N and the purple plans drop, would he be wrong to get them?  personally i wouldnt have been upset.  I cant do anything with it but sell it.  Its one of the reasons why he ran it.  If you take the logic out to the end, then everything shoud be NEED rolled, even set peices that are BOE.  Who cares if someone is the only priest and the devout grips drop, everyone gets to roll, cause they are currently going for 200g.  I think most people would say, give them to the preist.  so why get on ohnez for mastering the skinning and going on the run in the first place.  If there where multiple people with skining, yes he should have to roll to get to see who gets the opportunity to skin the beast, but if he is the only one who can, i think he is justified to do it.  Otherwise he could just tell people to pound sand and skin it themselves.  and nobody would get it.'),(1534,'784499250a','','I wouldn\'t care at all about the hide if he didn\'t FSE above his head.  It makes us look bad.  Wonder why TheMafia had to reroll on a different server when they broke up?  Tier 2 End game experienced players that NO ONE WANTED.  Because of shit like this.  I am still wondering if it was no big deal why did he brag in Guild how he &quot;ninja\'d&quot; it?  As council the two of you should really rethink your stance on this.  If the leadership is put in place to aid the growth of FSE how does this help?  If you take logic out to the end I bet he got the skinner because &quot;he mastered skinning&quot;.   \r\n\r\nI will make it simple you may try and try to make this ok but if Ohnoez says it was ninja\'d and the party couldn\'t roll on it and he just kept it IT WAS NINJA\'D.\r\n\r\n\r\nSpoiled put it like this \r\n\r\nWouldn\'t we as a guild that helps and aids each other expect in a guild run that the hide would have been rolled on?   Correct?\r\n\r\nWhy as a guild that is trying to grow wouldn\'t we offer them same respect  and courtesy to PuGs?  Because with  out PuGs we would never grow.\r\n\r\nHow many people in our guild now came from us in PuGs in UBRS?\r\n\r\nNothing to discuss or debate  IT WAS NINJA\'D'),(1535,'586dd94d4b','','Courtesy of [URL=http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4231-1-chatlog.html]Chatlog[/URL]:\r\n\r\n[code:1:586dd94d4b]6/22 18&#58;21&#58;26.700  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; Pristine Hide of the Beast woot!\r\n6/22 18&#58;24&#58;36.388  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; they just kicked me from the raid cause i wouldn\'t let them roll on the hide.\r\n6/22 18&#58;24&#58;46.747  &#91;Guild&#93; Caanon&#58; you skinned it\r\n6/22 18&#58;24&#58;49.653  &#91;Guild&#93; Caanon&#58; they dont get to roll\r\n6/22 18&#58;24&#58;49.872  &#91;Guild&#93; Scottbeowulf&#58; were there other skinners?\r\n6/22 18&#58;24&#58;59.309  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; none that can skin.\r\n6/22 18&#58;25&#58;01.934  &#91;Guild&#93; Tterrag&#58; they should at the very least have to pay a skinning fee of like 300g\r\n6/22 18&#58;25&#58;05.856  &#91;Guild&#93; Scottbeowulf&#58; well there you go\r\n6/22 18&#58;25&#58;34.325  &#91;Guild&#93; Woodcrow&#58; its messed up that we get our skill up high enough to skin the damn thing and then we have to give our hardwork to someone else\r\n6/22 18&#58;25&#58;49.903  &#91;Guild&#93; Scottbeowulf&#58; well did you solo the beast?\r\n6/22 18&#58;25&#58;58.059  &#91;Guild&#93; Mardigan&#58; there are two sides to that arguement \r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;06.622  &#91;Guild&#93; Caanon&#58; no, but it would just sit there if they couldn\'t skiin it\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;09.528  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; it\'s people being greedy.\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;17.888  &#91;Guild&#93; Tterrag&#58; i guess its something that every leatherworker should adress at the begining of ubrs that if you skin it then if they want to roll on it they have to pay a xxx amount skinning fee\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;21.684  &#91;Guild&#93; Scottbeowulf&#58; i dont think you should give it up for free, but i think group members should get something out of it\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;21.888  &#91;Guild&#93; Mardigan&#58; but you can not get there by yourself\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;33.059  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; and no one else could skin it.\r\n6/22 18&#58;26&#58;52.981  &#91;Guild&#93; Mardigan&#58; dont you have to have finkles skinner to skin it\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;06.356  &#91;Guild&#93; Tterrag&#58; yeap\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;06.856  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; i do.  and the enchant.\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;07.059  &#91;Guild&#93; Fuzzynips&#58; yes\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;10.778  &#91;Guild&#93; Scottbeowulf&#58; right, but can you skin it while it is alive?\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;10.997  &#91;Guild&#93; Tterrag&#58; 305 or higher\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;18.028  &#91;Guild&#93; Tterrag&#58; or is it 310?\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;20.950  &#91;Guild&#93; Caanon&#58; there is no reason they should take advantage of ur skinning ability, they get the same thing from every ubrs run with the beast, the chance at its drops\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;22.059  &#91;Guild&#93; Woodcrow&#58; by that thinking, if you get a new enchant everyone should get one free because they helped you get to it\r\n6/22 18&#58;27&#58;24.575  &#91;Guild&#93; Ohnoez&#58; 315.\r\n6/22 18&#58;28&#58;14.653  &#91;Guild&#93; Veine&#58; as long as they provide the mats that is correct woodcrow\r\n6/22 18&#58;28&#58;39.606  &#91;Guild&#93; Mardigan&#58; what do you do if its a guild run?\r\n6/22 18&#58;28&#58;43.122  &#91;Guild&#93; Woodcrow&#58; provide me with 300+beasts to skin and you can have hide of the wild for free\r\n6/22 18&#58;29&#58;24.669  &#91;Guild&#93; Caanon&#58; would i get twisted abom stitchings from the stitched horrors outside of ud strat?\r\n6/22 18&#58;29&#58;33.622  &#91;Guild&#93; Woodcrow&#58; possibly\r\n[/code:1:586dd94d4b]\r\n\r\n[quote:586dd94d4b]I am still wondering if it was no big deal why did he brag in Guild how he &quot;ninja\'d&quot; it?[/quote:586dd94d4b]\r\nNot once did he say or brag &quot;I ninja\'d it&quot;.'),(1536,'05f52f1846','','6/22 18:24:36.388  [Guild] Ohnoez: they just kicked me from the raid cause i wouldn\'t let them roll on the hide.   = Ninja and braggin about it\r\n\r\n\r\nYou really are ok with this action?'),(1537,'aa965729eb','','Problem solved, Ohnoez has left the guild.'),(1538,'6ef045f229','/huhwhat?','issues resolved.'),(1679,'5164a59b18','','No objection here.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1680,'db7294bfa1','Squinty\'s Application','[b:db7294bfa1]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:db7294bfa1] End Game Raids.  and anything you have to offer on raiding alliance cities.\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Character Class/Style:[/b:db7294bfa1]  Level 55 Undead Warlock\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Talent Build:[/b:db7294bfa1]  Built in Affliction at the moment,  for more efficient grinding.   I plan for demonology after i reah 60.  It\'s more damage and makes for a more effective Demonic Control.\r\n\r\nBenefits:\r\n-Heals life while damaging opponet.\r\n-instant DPS\r\n-Free mana for self with the use of Dark Pact.  (takes mana from pet and gives 100% to charactor)\r\n\r\nDownfall:\r\n-Poor Effect against mobs.\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Gear:[/b:db7294bfa1]  Head - Eye of Theradras (blue)\r\nNeck - Shriveled Heart (green)\r\nMantle - Darkmist Mantle of the Eagle (green)\r\nBack - Nighfall Drape (blue)\r\nChest - Robes of the Lich (blue)\r\nBracers - Dreadmist Bracers (t0)\r\nGloves - Dreadmist Wraps (t0)\r\nBelt - Hibernal Sash (green)\r\nLegs - Kilt of the Atal\'ai Prophet (blue)\r\nBoots - Gossamer Boots of the Eagle (green)\r\nRings - Seal of Sylvanas &amp; Bloodbone Band\r\nTrinkets - Carrot on a Stick &amp; Insignia of the Horde\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]MC Attuned:[/b:db7294bfa1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]BWL Attuned:[/b:db7294bfa1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Onyxia keyed:[/b:db7294bfa1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Sponsor:[/b:db7294bfa1]  -\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:db7294bfa1]  US Mountain Standard Time\r\n\r\nWeekends can get up to all day.\r\nWeekdays in the evening.  after work.  as much through the night as needed.\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]What raid experience do you have?[/b:db7294bfa1]  None whatsoever.  \r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:db7294bfa1]  Low level guilds with friends.  I left because I was not a low level charactor any more.\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:db7294bfa1]  DPS.  AOE.  CC.  Support\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:db7294bfa1]  This would be my first charactor.  other then a level 23 Tauren Druid.  of the actual time i am not sure.\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:db7294bfa1]  I am a level 271 Tailor and a weak Enchanter.\r\nI produce a good amount of Mooncloth\r\n\r\n[b:db7294bfa1]What is your goal ingame?[/b:db7294bfa1]  I play for fun.  One of two hobbies i have.  I basically just want to kill Alliance'),(1539,'416b32bd04','','ill vote yarr as well we could always use more priests'),(1540,'4a0504dcf9','','I vote no for now if he gets a lil more exp under his belt then maybe\r\nbut have you been to a raid  lately i think all we have in this guild are mages'),(1541,'5da09739c5','','we could use rogues and people liked playing with him i vote yes'),(1542,'3095368c55','','Yes. but tell him to roll a druid :P'),(1543,'29189aee6c','','My opinion is dicipline not just jkick TBTer\'s were not put on probation so just tell them way and put them an probation and as for people on probation if they screw up there out \r\nthat is just my two cents'),(1544,'37d0216aed','','Looks like he joined f t w.\r\n\r\nWe\'ve got to make sure we jump on these desirable classes once they\'re approved and get them into the guild.'),(1545,'e713ad9757','','Talked to him and he just joined &lt;f t w&gt; cause a friend was in.  Said he wanted to be in FSE more.  Added on this date.'),(1546,'28760ff50f','Confidentiality','Something\'s come up that I think we have to be concerned about and discuss. When I say &quot;discuss&quot; I also have to add that we\'re all on the same team and should respect one another enough to not type messages that &quot;bite&quot; at one another. \r\n\r\nMessage board communication is difficult sometimes, and it can get ugly if the creator of the message isn\'t careful. You can find yourself intending to say one thing and coming across as saying something entirely different sometimes and it can continue to snowball. \r\n\r\nAs council members and officers in our video game club (Excelsior!), we\'re working together. That doesn\'t mean we all have to agree, but when we disagree, we do it with a little style and grace. :)This is an officer/council member forum, for which access is granted only to officers and council members. Here, we discuss issues behind the scenes. Sometimes our issues that we discuss are controversial. \r\n\r\nThis is not to say we\'re backstabbing cowards, afraid to bring issues into the light. But we are the secret ruling society, and we\'re utilizing the confidentiality of this forum to solve and discuss problems without stirring the pot. \r\n\r\nIf I were to say &quot;The Jewish majority of the guild are starting to get a little too inquisitive about the guild bank funds&quot; I would hope that I don\'t log on to a tell from the now very upset Jewish majority members about my apparrent  prejudice. I\'d be like &quot;But...how did you....know about...?&quot;\r\n\r\nSome of the issues we discuss here, such as problems with membership behavior and questions on how we should handle members who act in a way we\'re not in agreement with.... [color=yellow:28760ff50f]should stay private[/color:28760ff50f]. We\'re tip toe\'ing through tulips when it comes to potential drama, because basically no one wants drama in their video game. \r\n\r\nBut these are sometimes volatile subjects that can produce either a lot of drama, or very little. There is a very good reason these are forums that only we have the prestigious access to. The content of this forum could potentially rock the earth on its freaking axis.\r\n\r\nSo, this has been a dreadwindian way of asking that we all appreciate the confidentiality of these topics we deal with here. We are having information leak out of our secret conclave of Illuminati\'ish leadershipy talks in such a way that it inspires this post.\r\n\r\nThanks for reading this and understanding. Look, yellow smoke!'),(1547,'954479f620','','I, for one, would push to get ohnoez back, he did nothing wrong with his actions in ubrs.'),(1548,'d415279deb','','Another healer would be nice to pick up'),(1549,'0708f6309b','','Great! I spoke to him last night and he seemes very eager to join. I did not invite him cause at the time he only had two yes votes. \r\n\r\nGlad to here he\'s in!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1550,'499e13c0ea','','[quote:499e13c0ea]What I am askin is this if you are an officer/council and one of these less than ummmmm (edited cuz it wasnt nice) people do something foolish, over the top, or just non FSE DEAL WITH IT THEN talk to them tell them it is gonna go in front of council/officers and it may mean removal from guild right now i just feel like this could be a bit of a surprise attack.[/quote:499e13c0ea]\r\n[quote:499e13c0ea]Please take on an active role to fix I am tired of loggin on to &quot;Hey Uda what we gonna do about (insert name here)?&quot;[/quote:499e13c0ea]\r\n\r\nSo now I am leaking information from the Officer/Council forums because I took the time to sit down with Ohnoez and explain to him that others felt that he had ninja\'d the Pristine Hide of the Beast and that it made FSE look bad.  Damned if you do, and damned if you dont.'),(1551,'a7a580edbe','','What I\'m seeing is that we\'re dealing with a tricky &quot;This is how pick up raids should go&quot; type of disagreement in which there\'s no real right answer for the way to go about it.\r\n\r\nThere\'s sense in both sides of it, but there\'s just no actual right answer. You know? \r\n\r\nThe remedy? Well, it seems to me that the &quot;how do we deal with the pristine hide of the beast&quot; had to be hammered out at the start of the raid. Since it wasn\'t, you\'re asking for trouble come skin time!\r\n\r\nThe actual &quot;how it all went down&quot; is hearsay, and determined by judging the tone of a few comments. I\'m trying to get at this!\r\n\r\nSo, I spoke with Ohnoez myself to figure it out. This &quot;who gets the hide of the beast&quot; debate has been thrown around on forums and in pug raids for some time. \r\n\r\nSince I wasn\'t in the raid itself I can\'t possibly guess the attitude that went on. From the perspective Ohnoez gave me, he asked if there was anyone in the raid able to skin the beast before the fight. To this, there was no response. The beast died, and Ohnoez proceeded to skin it and he recieved the flashy epic item.\r\n\r\nIn his words, the raid then demanded the hide from him. He denied them.\r\n\r\nSo now, I\'m defining the term &quot;ninja&quot; as I know it. It\'s the word used to describe the act of taking something that is not rightfully yours. So the problem here is &quot;what determines the right to this item?&quot;. Let\'s see. \r\n\r\nIs it the raid\'s right to the item, as Ohnoez couldn\'t have obtained the goal without the effort of all the players present? Yes, I believe they have a right.\r\n\r\nIs it Ohnoez\'s right to the item, as the pristine hide of the beast wouldn\'t have been attainable were it not for his skinning skill? Yes, you can also say he has a right. \r\n\r\nSo the reasoning to me seems that both sides have a pretty valid claim, but the method of distribution had to be agreed upon by all parties [color=yellow:a7a580edbe]before[/color:a7a580edbe] because of the multiple schools of thought. \r\n\r\nSo beauty is in the eye of the beholder here. \r\n\r\nNow I ask myself what I would have done. I can honestly say I would have brought it up to the raid before the start. So that solves nothing. :)\r\n\r\nI was in a debate about pick up group &quot;proper conduct&quot; in Everquest once. I was an advocate of &quot;Need before Greed&quot; rewarding those who would benefit from an item rather than allowing all to have a shot at it for use in the auction house. I believed myself to be right in this stance, no questions asked. I, Dreadwind, was right. Right? The debate got pretty heated as opinions started flying out. In short time, it turned into a &quot;I will now call you a &lt;insert&gt; as I assert my claim&quot; debate. I viewed those who disagreed with me as greedy sons of bitches with very little quality in their character. You know, in it for the gold. My answer to the notion of &quot;how do you deal with liars who say they need it but then intend to sell the item&quot; was &quot;Be aware of the type of people you group with, and don\'t play with people who will dupe you&quot;. \r\n\r\nI was both right and I wasn\'t. But how do you deterimine right? \r\n\r\nSo, here\'s what I say.\r\n\r\nWhen the guild conduct code is brought up, we can tackle how we would like members to behave in pick up groups concerning these matters maybe. As for this situation? I think we can let it slide without labeling Ohnoez as a thief. Talking to him, I don\'t think he was in that raid with the intention of looting something that wasn\'t his. There &quot;is&quot; a belief that skinners have rights to the pristine hide that not all agree with, but some go by.\r\n\r\nI really thought hard on this one, and I think Ohnoez\'s actions while not performed in the way I\'d have done, can be forgiven. The method of distributing the hide was not accepted by the players there, and they attempted to enforce the policy after the item showed up. This was the heart of the problem, in my opinion, of course.\r\n\r\nHow\'s it sound?'),(1552,'eaf6a227f0','i concure','I too believe it is up most important to get clear expectations from a group beofre it starts, or before one joins.  for example i always make sure we are running FF before i join, cause i hate it when we are there and everyone wants to run by.  beacuse it is a group effort, adn we should all do a little for everyone in teh group.  I havn\'t needed anything past Ff for quite some time, but I still go to the end.  \r\n\r\nI say this is a great exaplme of a growing issue, adn we should all learn from it, not crumble over it.  I personally would like to get ohnez back in, as I think he is a good player.  If there are no objecttions, I will reach out to him.'),(1553,'eeb0166a84','','Ohnoez isn\'t interested in rejoining I guess, claiming he wouldn\'t feel comfortable. Ah well!\r\n\r\nThis thread got all crazy!'),(1554,'c39e5a2ec2','','Oh noez is not a Ninja , alot of people do this and dont get branded as a ninja , go yell in OG that someone doing this is a ninja and ull be laughed at.'),(1555,'1aa5d17fec','','this really sucks, FSE has always been about freindship. having fun, and helping eachother. Now we are growing and looking forward to endgame content. but at what cost? can we outline guild rules that we can all agree on? i hope so, i think we can, we just have to remember that some times we comprimise for the better of the guild. private forums may bring on suspician( forgive my spelling or lack of) but its nescesarry, so that we can iron these types of things out and get it right before it goes live in guild forums or guild chat. was information leaked, or was there an attempt to council a member, i dont know, i wasnt there. but we as leaders must work together to fix this stuff or FSE will cave in and cease to exist. i dont want to see that come about. as for me and my own foolishness, please GENTLY speak to me if i offend or imbarrass any of my guildmates, i know i have a mouth some times. As for Eavicarr, he is a person i have known for 24 years, but i will not defend his actions or tells while in our guild, i will not sponser him for reinstatment into the guild, what he did is wrong. please remember he has been a person who always looked out for my best interrest and gave me a place to stay and food to eat when i had nothing else. having said that i hope it sheds some light on how i take my position on the council seriouse. As for Ohnoez, the holw thing needed to be worked out in officer before it was brought to him, but its not the end of the world, just a chance to learn from mistakes. the time to speak with Ohnoez was coming, and when that time came Gricham may have been on the right  path. If  decision would have been made and agreed upon ( like probation or atleast an explantion of expectation, or what ever choice was made) it could have been presented in a way that would left us all feeling a little better about the whole thing and other guildies would have a clear understanding of how to opperate in pug\'s and guild raids. This is not an attack on Gricham or any other officer/counsil, just posting my concerns and outlook on this situation. sorry for the long post, sorry if i offended. see you in game!'),(1556,'f01d55aab1','not the correct info','You guys have not got the full story on this situation.  This has got 100% completely blown out of perportion from word of mouth.  All we were doing was talking about situations or actions that one could do to get kicked out of the guild.  This action was ONE of the actions that got brought up.  We never were going to kick ohnoez or even talk to him about it cause we have never heard of any people from that PUG saying anything about it.  But before we even finished our talk someone went to ohnoez and said people in the guild thaought he was a ninja which as i would have done the same he  got upset and left.  Dreadwind and spoiled have went and talked to him saying that this is not what anyone wanted and his response was he felt to uneasy at this time to come back.  This was a case of people taking a conversation and twisting it.  Although we do need to set some rules and I have no regrets that we had that topic of conversation going.  It just sucks that it got used to upset a person making them leave the guild.   And just for all you info we never even named anyone in the orginal post we just said if someone ninjaed the hide would that be grounds for removal.'),(1557,'b3db7f5c98','','When this situation was first brought up in g chat (when it happened), I would like to point out that it was an officer who called him a ninja and proceeded to berate him.'),(1558,'d82a29d56f','','i would have voted yes to a 2 week, you guys were fast on this one! hehe'),(1559,'5bf2fa1af6','','i say yes, new player with sponsership'),(1560,'13ec534df6','','i cant speel to save my life!'),(1561,'17b259cc46','','Looking at copy of the chatlog from when Ohnoez told it in guild that he took the hide, there isn\'t a single officer or council member that is posting in it.  This is a chat log for about 8 mins of the conversation, and unless it\'s been edited I dont see anything about anyone calling him a ninja, or berating him.'),(1562,'7f362eeb8f','','so ye got a problem with spamming guild chat?  never said anything about spaming vent with music :)'),(1563,'7a763a0edf','','i being one of the people involved in the original coversation when he said he got the hide of the beast.  dont remember anyone calling him a ninja, or any officers or council members even there.  i did however voice my personal opinion on it, that i thought with an item like that which is rare and worth alot that it should be rolled on.  i met with alot of opposition on that point, so i did what i do best and stopped talking :).'),(1564,'4600a837c4','','wether that is the log that ohno was refering to when he talked to me is anyones guess.  The conclusion that i came to was based on what i observed of the  convo as it was happneing and later discussions with ohno.'),(1565,'571502fae6','','warmaki wants to give his 2 cents :) i talked to Ohnoez last nite and all he said was that there was one person (not gonna name names) that was tryin to make him out to be a ninja... i can see where Ohnoez is coming from about the skin.  some people feel that the hide should be rolled on, but if you really want a fair roll on the skin, pick skinning as a profession.  i mean you have to work you skill up to 300, plus you have to go on UBRS runs until you get the finkles skinner.  so really it should be up to the person who skins the beast that decides on whether or not he keeps it or is fair and has everyone roll on it.  now if there was more than one skinner in the group that has the finkles skinner, they should roll and decide who skins the beast.  now if it were a guild run, i myself would let say let everyone roll on it if no one NEEDS it for anything.  just to be fair, but all in all Ohnoez worked his way to 300 skinning and did the UBRS runs to get the skin.  so i find it unfair that someone was tryin to make it look like he was a ninja. thats warmaki\'s 2 cents :)'),(1566,'b9c51e9a19','','Tell...tell him how...how awesome priests are, and how...how they\'re awesome. Really drive home the notion that priests are awesome, you know? It would be awesome.'),(1567,'71463f570d','','[i:71463f570d][size=24:71463f570d]Jatus\' Builds[/size:71463f570d][/i:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n[color=darkblue:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Warlock[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Balanced build with major dps (PvE/PvP)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AV0bZfZxxbtrGtt\r\n\r\n- Balanced build with survivability (Pet/PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?AV0bZfxhzgxotZxx0z\r\n\r\n- Classic SM/Ruin\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?IE0fVMboVZZxx0tr0z\r\n\r\n[color=green:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Hunter[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Balanced Beast Master\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?cx0GzxgoZxVohZcxcb\r\n\r\n- Marksmanship (PvE/PvP)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?VxZxVkAtht0xV0o\r\n\r\n[color=brown:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Warrior[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Le tank, SHE IS STRONG! (PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?LVzxdZVZViz0eMMqo\r\n\r\n- Balanced DPS Build (PvP)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?LVhxkhboZVxumMx0V\r\n\r\n[color=yellow:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Shaman[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d] (Bear with me now)\r\n\r\n- Heal Build (PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?uVZx0bZxcxtAxqo\r\n\r\n- PvP Build, IMHO\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?GVcuEbMqoxmZx0L\r\n\r\n- Tank (PvE... lol)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?uVcZVicdEtht\r\n\r\n[color=darkred:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Rogue[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Combat + Swords (PvP/PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?whe0oxZG0EkMVzxco\r\n\r\n- Combat + Daggers (PvP/PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?w0eboZGcEz0eZV0x0h\r\n\r\n[color=white:71463f570d][size=18:71463f570d]Priest[/size:71463f570d][/color:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Shadow (PvP/PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bVTZZEGMtbtRt\r\n\r\n- Holy (PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxghsZfEzMb0qt\r\n\r\n- Discipline (PvP/PvE)\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?dVMGsVVqofEz0b\r\n\r\n[size=18:71463f570d][color=blue:71463f570d]M[/color:71463f570d][color=red:71463f570d]a[/color:71463f570d][color=blue:71463f570d]g[/color:71463f570d][color=red:71463f570d]e[/color:71463f570d][/size:71463f570d]\r\n\r\n- Ice\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kZVLZVVGcsftAo\r\n\r\n- Fire\r\nhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZEghu0cutbhGho\r\n\r\nNote: Paladin not included because. Well it should be obvious. Druid not included because it is the only class I haven\'t played.\r\n\r\nLove,\r\n\r\n- Jatus'),(1568,'221e1618fc','Jatus\'s Application','[b:221e1618fc]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:221e1618fc] bcause i google n it show me tihs\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]Character Class/Style:[/b:221e1618fc]  60 gnom lock\r\n\r\nfirts i ride in on my epix maount then i run around til some1 else get agro den i watch them die.\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]Talent Build:[/b:221e1618fc]  i likes fire it make big number.\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]Gear:[/b:221e1618fc]  i am in lots of thing i foun wile intance wit other peeps.\r\n\r\nPS wat is mc attuned bwl attuned and onyxia keyed\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]Sponsor:[/b:221e1618fc]  u lol\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:221e1618fc]  all day if i can\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]What raid experience do you have?[/b:221e1618fc]  i run sholo lots\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:221e1618fc]  i wuz in reverie 4 sum tiem but dey dont liek me :(\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:221e1618fc]  i blow tings up\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:221e1618fc]  likke 3 yeers\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:221e1618fc]  i hve a bank frum reverie\r\n\r\n[b:221e1618fc]What is your goal ingame?[/b:221e1618fc]  blow tings up'),(1569,'cc0cf4a1bf','Vicca for Raids','I\'m sorry to hear no priest where on sunday for the raid.  Just to let you guys/gals know, It\'s really really hard for me to get on Wednesday and Sundays next to impossible unless it\'s late.  Any other day with a coffee pot I can make it work.\r\n\r\n\r\nVicca'),(1570,'6b5c794b29','','Ok Vicca. :) Last thing we want to do is make priests feel like they should feel bad for not making our raid times. We\'re still experimenting with days that work well for everyone. There\'s been some incredibly nice weather here on the west coast that may account for keeping players from being indoors too. \r\n\r\nWe may even have to consider asking our priests what days are best for them, since that is one heck of an essential class for us right now!'),(1571,'566a0cbcba','','Hey there.. Jatus !'),(1572,'1de8f27494','','Jatus is a great little gnome lock! I think you all should think about letting this little guy into our guild..'),(1573,'8b3b67071c','','[quote:8b3b67071c]Hey there.. Jatus ![/quote:8b3b67071c]\r\n\r\nHi.  :D\r\n\r\nJust here to help.'),(1574,'a5baee0984','','no one is to blame my for my departure.  not gricham because he didn\'t do anything wrong by relaying that my actions were brought up in a discussion about behavior.  not the officers for questioning my behavior.  \r\n\r\nthis whole thing stems from a difference in opinion.  unfortunately, where i stand, i am on the wrong side of the tracks, opposite those who run the guild.  if you read http://www.thottbot.com/?i=25359 you will find that the hide going to the skinner is how it\'s intended to be.  some of the posts may not be very articulate, but there are a couple good points.  the one that stands out for me is the last post.  the person made a sacrifice to keep the raid together, only to be slapped in the face and ripped off anyway.  \r\n\r\nwhen it boils down to things, when the skin is looted, it becomes the have vs the havenots.  there is no reason my hard work and patience should go to a thankless, drooling tank who can\'t hold aggro, or the priest that refuses to come out of shadowform, or the mage that doesn\'t sheep.  yes, it takes 10 of us to kill the beast and only one to skin.  but how many runs does it take before you can 1) skin the beast and 2) get the hide?  why should it go to the stranger who\'s in UBRS for the first time?  yes, this is my second.  i\'ve been VERY lucky.  and for those who may call me greedy, the first one went to gricham.\r\n\r\ni chose to leave the guild because i do not plan to change my behavior.  if i\'m in a PUG and i skin the hide, then it is mine.  if it\'s a guild run, it goes to the bank.  if people feel that my behavior in this matter will reflect poorly on the the guild, then i would rather leave than tarnish FSE\'s name.\r\n\r\ni wish no ill will to FSE or it\'s members.  that is all i have to say.'),(1575,'b4ebcd9aa5','','I hate when Jatus kills me...\r\n\r\nyet\r\n\r\nsomehow...\r\n\r\nits not so bad!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1576,'ed5967475d','Recruting Ad in Realm Forums','I posted a Ad for FSE and our recruiting in the realm forums here [url]http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-realm-boulderfist&amp;ThreadID=241825[/url]\r\n\r\nI\'m hoping this will generate some interest in us and we\'ll be able to bring in some healers.'),(1577,'180cf2c9db','Amalo R Teh Overpower!','I\'d just like to say grats to Amalo.  Our little shammy has grown up.  He apped to Shaman r teh Overpower and was accepted.  In a few short weeks he\'ll be a Warlord on our server and finally get some good gear :) \r\n\r\nHe\'s been PVP\'n pretty hard and come a long ways, this will let him finally move into the higher ranks.\r\n\r\nBut dont forget.\r\n\r\nYou\'re always nub to me /hug.\r\n\r\nBut dont get too excited kids, I\'m sure one day he\'ll be back poking around the ranks of FSE, and he still has alts in our guild.  Hopefully this will give him more time to work on his priest and we can get a little healing out of him.\r\n\r\nOnce again, grats.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNub.'),(1578,'1f3188c2a2','','Maybe I should spice mine up like this fancy post from Budoken:\r\n\r\n[quote=Budoken]\r\n 2 Druids\r\n1 Priest (maybe, if our apps bail out)\r\n1 Rogue\r\n1 Warrior\r\n\r\nhttp://www.etherealguild.net/forums\r\n\r\nETHEREAL WILL NO LONGER RAID MOLTEN CORE, DON\'T APP IF YOU WANT T1 STUFF OR T2 LEGS. (We might raid MC once every yaer, but thats about it /gg)\r\n\r\n- Druids gota have at least T1/T2. EXP with raiding, from guilds that actually raid\r\n\r\n- Priest gota have exp with healing/raiding. I dont\' care bout your gear, go get t2 from BWL, with no legs. You can get some epic legs somewhere. IF you are epiced out, thats good.\r\n\r\n- Warrior gota have AT LEAST FULL T1, SOME T2 (5 T2+ preferred) 90%+ raid attendance, PLEASE DO NOT BE A STUPID F-ING WARRIOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY. I WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU, IF YOU SUCK PLAYING A WARRIOR, ON VENT, IN GUILD CHAT AND TO PEOPLE I TALK TO. NO NOOB.\r\n\r\n\r\nEdit: 1 rogue in full t1 some t2. With good weapons, who knows how aggro works and can dish out damage like Triniti.\r\n\r\nExample to damage meter in Nef (Real meter from our nef kill)\r\n\r\n1. Triniti : 360,000 &lt;-- that is damage, with no aggro pulling.\r\n2. Arukard : 140,000\r\n3-rest : lower than 140k\r\n\r\nOther words, no noobs again.\r\n\r\n[ post edited by Budoken ][/quote]'),(1579,'17125f6c43','','Gah, screwed that up and cant edit for some reason.'),(1580,'ee05fe23d9','puddums\'s Application','[b:ee05fe23d9]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:ee05fe23d9] i dont really want too\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Character Class/Style:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  gnome mage\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Talent Build:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  frost ftw\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Gear:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  decent\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]MC Attuned:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]BWL Attuned:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  No\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Onyxia keyed:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Sponsor:[/b:ee05fe23d9]  no gnome love\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  college student so anytime since its summer\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]What raid experience do you have?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  i have a ne druid farming mc/bwl and zg for phat lewt\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  this gnome dont talk out his dirty bussiness\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  i main tank mc\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  since launch\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  tailor/enchanter\r\n\r\n[b:ee05fe23d9]What is your goal ingame?[/b:ee05fe23d9]  goals are weak i have none'),(1581,'5c860eda6b','','[quote=&quot;ohnoez&quot;]the mage that doesn\'t sheep.[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\nThat man should be punished and forced to reroll.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nAll in all from what I read and been in raids with the same thing that has happened, if he was the only qualified skinner there and no one objected to him skinning it, all I can say is More power to you Ohnoez. Your skill, hard work to get to that point to skin it, it is rightfully yours. Screw the Pug Raid.'),(1582,'874bcd6660','Re: Vicca for Raids','[quote=&quot;Vicca&quot;]I\'m sorry to hear no priest where on sunday for the raid.  Just to let you guys/gals know, It\'s really really hard for me to get on Wednesday and Sundays next to impossible unless it\'s late.  Any other day with a coffee pot I can make it work.\r\n\r\n\r\nVicca[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\n[size=24:874bcd6660][/size:874bcd6660]LIES!!![size=24:874bcd6660][/size:874bcd6660]\r\n\r\n\r\n :wink:'),(1583,'a76dc19f03','','[quote=&quot;Shybella&quot;][quote=&quot;Itchiz&quot;]I think we should just listen to the voice from above ( farwell ) and fuck UIs and Mods ....and priests ..who needs them ![/quote]I think you should just STFU ![/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\nFor once, Shy says something wise.\r\n\r\n\r\n 8)'),(1584,'7ccd4bb85d','','Ohnoez, this is crazy that you\'re going to leave when all of the guild wants  you to stay and understands why you did it. I for one am completely in agreement with your behavior.  It seems perfectly right to do that, i know i havent done any BIG instances, but if i was there, i would let you have that skin, this is all gay and some non-guid member\'s fault if i understand the explanation correctly.\r\n\r\nJust my thoughts, Bren'),(1585,'2d6ab2704d','','Budoken is a dick.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1586,'eb430a883d','','Awsome job Big A!\r\n\r\nGood luck with those fags...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1587,'a91026ba7e','','congrats amalo!'),(1588,'9c4b296450','','I love the targeting icons, myself. Thanks blizzard! These things make raids so much easier as well as groups. \r\n\r\nAt long last, the sheeps will not elude me so easily. For now I have a sixth sense for their whereabouts!\r\n\r\n.....but pigs are treacherous as well.'),(1589,'661c9157e5','Skyfury Helm','now that im about to hit lvl 60 ive been looking into doing the skyfury helm quest in scholo... i dont know how many shamans that still need to do this, but id love to get a group together to do it.  i found this thread on the WOW forums that i think will greatly help.\r\n\r\nhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&amp;t=363821&amp;p=1&amp;tmp=1#post363821\r\n\r\nplease provide feedback'),(1590,'c3ff836d86','','NO WAY!! I aint helpin\'...Hummff\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1591,'b8db7d85ae','','yea you are zu, youre tanking :) its a fun quest and u know it'),(1592,'176efa671b','',':)\r\n\r\nJust say when.'),(1593,'83438ed301','FRICKIN AWESOME','I dunno if you guys havent seen this yet, BUT ITS FRICKIN COOL!!!!!\r\nhttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/video_player.html?id=cH1hxjX_5bsOujI\r\n\r\nBURNIN CRUSADE IS AWESOME'),(1594,'1650567995','shitty app','bad app. denied i vote NO'),(1595,'840def1bb2','You guys see that new Super Man movie? Looks awesome. Oh, ..','I\'m going to have to leave FSE. I\'ve been thinking about it tonight, and frankly...I\'m annoyed. So I thought &quot;Well James...man, why are you annoyed? And how can you solve the problem?&quot;. \r\n\r\nIt\'s not because there\'s another guild for me to join, no greener pastures or anything like that,it\'s just that I find some of our new atmosphere to be sucking the fun out of my experience with the guild. I don\'t even like to talk in guild chat any more. The conversations in guild chat arn\'t fun any longer. We\'re overrun with punks, greed, and complainers. There\'s even a lot of open insulting going on.  Hell, then you have me complaining about the complainers, extremly selfish, and punks, trying to remove them! :) \r\n\r\nYou see, I really feel we have some new members who taint the guild, and have changed it for the worse. I know I\'m sort of alone in this, and unfortunately the atmosphere of personalities is a large part of what keeps me grinnin\' and enjoying the play. How long have I been doing Scholomance? Lots! :) Hunter, shaman, warrior, over and over...and it has stayed pleasant due to the people I can enjoy it with and talk goobery 80\'s talk with. \r\n\r\n\r\nNow, I know the timing is awful for the over all morale, but I think we could have done better in choosing our membership and keeping out the bad. It makes me grimace sometimes (awesome word, and also a great Mcdonalds character) to read guild chat lately. \r\n\r\nI believe most of you don\'t consider this new faction within our membership to be so bad, not bad enough to make any changes to. But they bitch, and they complain, they fill the guild channel with vulgar nonsense and since I\'m the &quot;raid leader&quot; of sorts, I get too much contact with some of our newer weasely types than I want. Now, if it were up to me, they\'d be gone, and it would be the end of it. But I\'m not here to listen to these types of players, and if I wanted to tolerate it, I\'d be in a guild known for inviting that sort of trash. You can deal with \'em and turn the cheek and it helps us experience that content we struggled to touch on months ago. But I just can\'t, that\'s all. \r\n\r\nFSE to me is good people, and we started out strong. The Bad Touch merger gave us some great additions, but unfortuntely we had to accumulate their dirt too. Vicca, Shybella, Gorlok, Vamprix, they were the gems...but we have to deal so much  more with their less classy members. Members who I wasn\'t even aware of. But now they are FSE. \r\n\r\nI\'m sorry guys, my standards may be too high in your eyes. But with me gone, the main complaints about these new members may vanish, and FSE doesn\'t really weaken with the loss of one warrior and gimp shaman. I think our core can make one hell of a cool guild, but damn....the roof\'s leaking and it was starting to drip on me. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, this old Tauren has left the Citadel of Fer Shizzle. Don\'t let those members (you know the ones) turn the guild into their playground for white trash. :)\r\n\r\nI hope, really hope, that this doesn\'t make anyone think less of me. You can\'t say I havn\'t put up a fight in here.'),(1596,'a6189e6a54','','[quote:a6189e6a54=\"Dreadwind\"]I love the targeting icons, myself. Thanks blizzard! These things make raids so much easier as well as groups. \r\n\r\nAt long last, the sheeps will not elude me so easily. For now I have a sixth sense for their whereabouts!\r\n\r\n.....but pigs are treacherous as well.[/quote:a6189e6a54]I agree.. the target icons are so much better.'),(1597,'9a1272772d','helping out','it has been brought to my attention that i seem like im all about myself and not helping others lately.  so i just want to clear things up.  i made the decision to making my shaman my main a couple weeks ago because warmaki was my first character so it was a big learning process, and i am loving playing a shaman.  and my big thing is getting fuzzynips to 60 as fast as a can so i can do my part in the guild and be able to effectively help anyone that needs help. so right now i do want the thank all of you who have helped me out along the way. yes i ask the guild for alot of help with highler lvl quests mainly because sitting around and asking for help in /4 seems to cause ALOT of downtime and slows down the process of getting to where i need to be to help the guild out.  so i made the decision to do my part for the guild and respec to resto at 60 because we all know how much help we need in that area.  so again i want to give a BIG thanks to all of you guys, and im sorry i have made some of you feel like im just in it for myself.'),(1598,'e090f56fb8','','Oh man im really sad about this, i share dreads feelings about some of the new members and i\'ve held my tongue a bit more than he has, but i\'ve also hinted to it a time or 2. Losing Dread is not good, he is a core member of this guild, an origanal wow F.S.E ! i would feel the same way if Bealoc, Shabazz, Gnome, or Uda left. This sucks and it swallows too!\r\nSomething needs to be done here, at the very least we need to talk to the newbies, but we need to get Dread back, we cant lose a freind!!!!!\r\nI motion for an officer/ counsil meeting a.s.a.p. Dread if you read this, im on your side on this one, sorry i didnt speak up sooner'),(1599,'5bd87c4d94','','I’m sure I’ll have more on the subject later, after I have time to digest the impact.\r\n\r\nKnowing you in game is a real pleasure. I would like to have known you in real life. Your leadership and guild shaping abilities are second to none. This is however just a game. Having fun is job one. If you are not having, then something isn’t right. I can only implore you to look at this from a long term standpoint.\r\n\r\nSomeone used the Business analogy in reference to our guild once. In a successful business, you have a normal attrition rate to deal with. Some employees are very prosperous, some are slackers. More often than not the slackers weed themselves out. Some are forced out. Every once and a while, said Business loses a great employee and for a while that business may falter a bit. However the good, strong business over come the loss, strengthen there ranks an move on. \r\n\r\nThe point is that some players are not a good match for the guild. In time they will figure this out, hell we may even get to help them realize there obvious short comings. I think we all need to take the long term approach to guild growth and thinning. You may think things suck now, but if FSE is one thing, it is strong, with tremendous resolve. Don’t let them win. I know you stated that you have no intention of finding another guild. I believe you can to well in any guild in the game. Your skill as player will take you anywhere you want to go. Keep your friends close, however. You will be hard pressed to find another family where you can express yourself like you can in FSE. \r\n\r\nLastly (for now), I refuse to look at this saddening post as an ultimatum. If this is your intention James, please let us know. If I know you like I think I do, you would not put that decision to us.\r\n\r\n\r\nJack'),(1600,'41f265440d','what','personnaly I\'m a little taken back.  I understand your troubles with some players, frankly everyone has their someone in the group they would rather not run with whom they find annoying, but the question is what are you doing about it.  I don\'t want to sound pompous or condesending, but what are you doing about it? Sure you can quit and hope you dont find other annoyin gplayers elsewhere, or you can challenge those in guild talk to mind their manners, hold private conversations in private, and to continue to press for officer decisions on policey.  Tell me if i\'m wrong, and I may be, I really don\'t know you well enough but it seem a lot like someone who didn\'t get his way soon enough (kicking kana, jtg) so he is quitting.  similarly to the kid in the playground that wanted his rules in football, or he is taking his ball and going home.  \r\n\r\nDont get me wrong, I too support kicking those two out, I voted to, but not for their specific actions, or annoyances in guild chat, but because they are just not a good fit fo rthe team.  Their play sucks, they are annoying, they don\'t follow instructions, and they dont contribute to anyone in the guild. (they run for themselves, and look for help for them, not offering for others)  \r\n\r\nBut before I will settle for abandoning FSE, I would like to try to come up with a code of conduct, policy for kicking, and better questions on the app.  they currently dont tell you anything about the personality of the applicant, just minor details about their character that mean nothing.   Questions like: explain why or why not you believe yoko destroyed the beattles?  What ever happened to Tang? and From what movie is &quot;i\'ll call him a chicken fucker&quot; from?\r\n\r\nSo in closing, I don\'t think you should abandon FSE before a valiant effort has been put forth to change it for the good.  We need to quit the drama, and clean some house, get back to basics, and revise how we intend ot grow.'),(1601,'9bd8b621bc','Hate the shorthand, i am annoyed already','I vote NO, the shorthand already annoyes me, and to see it all the time in guild chat would make me want to remove my corneas.  Plus if his last guild dint like him, there was probably a reason, what that may be i dont know, but the shorthand, mis use of letters really really bugs me.'),(1602,'75f0e02115','Re: Hate the shorthand, i am annoyed already','[quote=&quot;barbie&quot;]I vote NO, the shorthand already annoyes me, and to see it all the time in guild chat would make me want to remove my corneas.  Plus if his last guild dint like him, there was probably a reason, what that may be i dont know, but the shorthand, mis use of letters really really bugs me.[/quote]\r\n\r\nPlus he\'s a Gnome...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1603,'fe8dbc0e27','Re: shitty app','[quote=&quot;barbie&quot;]bad app. denied i vote NO[/quote]\r\n\r\nPlus he\'s a Gnome...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1604,'bf7ff332a9','','I HATE HATE HATE GNOMES!!'),(1605,'cd53951f91','','James.....Masema has known you a long time and to see someone like you, or sean, or jack, or chris, markie, becky, chuckles, don, larry, leave because they dont like the new players sounds to me like FSE lost priority somewhere.  Were all friends, most of us in real life, atleast the core group.  If we lose the core because of additions then I\'m with James this is not something that I want to be apart of either.  We started this game to have fun with our friends that we dont see everyday.  We cant lose site of that, just so we can run MC, AQ, and ZG.  We need to have a meeting ASAP council, officers, and our guild master.'),(1606,'3923406d47','','Well he is a cool gnome! And trust me I dont like gnomes.. But I like Jatus..\r\nOh well I tried to get a little guy in the guild..'),(1607,'78f53ab030','','I think this gnome is lame!'),(1608,'a15914b5c6','','I stand by my original post, and i\'d say the same if it were Zu or Barbie.\r\nI love FSE becouse of the freindship, and the loooking out for one another.\r\nof course we all have our opinions. But i have to side with Dread on this one. The people i consider freinds are more imporrtant than end game or growth. Im sure we can come to an agreement about this situation. Int the end its about having fun, and for me part of that fun is having guys like Dread and the rest of the guys i\'ve played with from the start.'),(1609,'5d1bb8c8d7','','good luck amalo!'),(1610,'803a57c871','','DUMBASS'),(1611,'6a9658f030','','WTF another dumbass'),(1612,'7ea53aee1f','','I vote yes we need a new tauren war even though he will never fill the shoes'),(1613,'e9b488b17f','Was there a new patch today? 6.28.06','I have the, normaly very fast, blue Downloading Update screen now. It is moveing slower than I have ever seen it move before. Anyone else?\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1614,'c20389cd0e','yep','hi mine is doing the same, over 15 min only at 30%. I checked Firewall and settings, adn all are correct, must be a big patch'),(1615,'bc3a6a9d97','','There was a patch, supposedly it is only 2.4 mb, but it\'s crawling for me as well.'),(1616,'a054cf7e21','','Thats so strange, I poped on this morning to check the AH with no issues. I wonder when they applied the patch? And why wasn\'t I informed of this!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1617,'0081c50cb8','','They applied it this afternoon around 5 I think, good timing :)'),(1618,'a95c65eaca','Ill miss invite for ZEEGEE','I cant log in , it says Disconnected from server immediatly everytime i try , its fricking ghey'),(1619,'50e0139ed7','','I cant get in either, something is jacked up with the server tonight..'),(1620,'7bb44b1c67','','They put in a patch, I talked to Gnome, he\'s online right now.  Says we have like 8 people total online right now cause of the patch, we may need to cancel it tonight.'),(1621,'363ca56384','Battlegrounds','Well as many of you know I have been in AV the past 4 days non-stop well i will be in there for the next few weeks I am working on my PvP gear (Something I can actually get) anyways if you guys wanna join me i will be happy to get to know you guys on the battlefield.\r\n\r\nLater - Anibus'),(2131,'b40e96ec30','','I know that I\'ve talked to a few of the MIA FSE and they said that they would come back to their 60\'s for MC and higher content.  They didn\'t really want to do ZG and I think that\'s been alot of the reason our numbers on those nights has dwindled down to the point that we haven\'t been able to do it in weeks.  \r\n\r\nAlso with summer coming a close (Alec Baldwin informed me of this on the radio saying the Blockbuster &quot;Awesome&quot; Summer is almost over) I think we\'ll find people logging on more now that vacations are over and the weather will be turning south.  \r\n\r\nHopefully we can get a few people to run with them tomorrow and see if they\'re not the asshats we\'ve been with before. \r\n\r\nOne thing Temblor told me is that they\'re doing full clears of ZG in 5 hours, but they want to speed that up.  Sounds like they\'re pretty good to me.'),(1624,'f2a2776a92','','do you like how i say ZG in real life ? like ...ZEEEEGEEEE'),(1625,'8c1dcf08e9','Lorrai\'s Application','[b:8c1dcf08e9]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:8c1dcf08e9] I want to be able to start raiding as often as I would like, as well as do it with guildies.\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Character Class/Style:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Warrior/ Fury-Arms\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Talent Build:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Benefits- Can do a little more damage\r\nDownfall- Can\'t keep agro as well\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Gear:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Head- http://thottbot.com/?i=19206\r\nNeck- http://thottbot.com/?i=10553\r\nShoulder- http://thottbot.com/?i=9980\r\nBack- http://thottbot.com/?i=35977\r\nChest- http://thottbot.com/?i=5042\r\nBracer- bracer\'s of valor\r\nWrist- http://thottbot.com/?i=38415\r\nWaist- belt of valor\r\nLegs- legplates of valor\r\nFeet- http://thottbot.com/?i=18830\r\nRings- http://thottbot.com/?i=6426\r\n          http://thottbot.com/?i=37379\r\nSword- http://thottbot.com/?i=53582\r\nShield- http://thottbot.com/?i=53570\r\nBow- ancient bone bow\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]MC Attuned:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]BWL Attuned:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Onyxia keyed:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Sponsor:[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Caanon\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  6:30ish EST- during weekdays\r\nIt depends on what time I get off of work\r\n\r\nWeekends depend on when I have to work\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]What raid experience do you have?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Some ZG\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Death\'s Sydicate- started falling apart, was too low to do anything big\r\nTXC- kinda failed for the 2nd time\r\nThe Uruk Hai- There was only 4 lvl 60\'s.\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Tank or DPS, which ever I\'m needed for at the time\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  8 months\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Mining 300/ Blacksmithing 300 (weaponsmith)\r\n                trying to decide which way I wanna go\r\n\r\n[b:8c1dcf08e9]What is your goal ingame?[/b:8c1dcf08e9]  Better my tanking abilities, and get better armor'),(1626,'e251590622','','No, its quite ghey'),(1627,'3b056bce47','','bought time they let you in, you are a pvp madman.  well dont forget the little people.  good luck with high warlord, you will need it :).'),(1628,'feea4dd175','','Thanks guys. I appreciate the support. Now off to kill some dirty elves!'),(1629,'d500a62c85','','[quote:d500a62c85=\"Itchiz\"]do you like how i say ZG in real life ? like ...ZEEEEGEEEE[/quote:d500a62c85]You\'re a freakin dork !'),(1634,'223da45766','daius\'s Application','[b:223da45766]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:223da45766] to get some gear and do something\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Character Class/Style:[/b:223da45766]  troll rouge sword spec \r\ni dont know what u mean by style\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Talent Build:[/b:223da45766]  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?30530110500000003200550102050150031000000000000000000\r\n\r\nit helps do constent dps and big sperts\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Gear:[/b:223da45766]  head: southwind helm\r\nneck: frostwolf legionnaire\'s pendant\r\nshoulder: zandalar madcap\'s mantle\r\nback: frostwolf legionnaire\'s cloak\r\nchest:nightbrace tunic\r\nbracers: zandalar madcap\'s mantle\r\ngloves:darkmantle gloves\r\nbelt: darkmantle belt\r\npants:devilsaur leggings\r\nboots:pads of the dread wold\r\nring: painweaver band\r\nring: tarnished elven ring\r\ntrinket: defiler\'s tailsman\r\ntrinket: rune of the guard captain\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]MC Attuned:[/b:223da45766]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]BWL Attuned:[/b:223da45766]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Onyxia keyed:[/b:223da45766]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Sponsor:[/b:223da45766]  none\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:223da45766]  all week\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]What raid experience do you have?[/b:223da45766]  MC -- just downed luci\r\nZG -- all\r\naq 20 -- all\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:223da45766]  nos -- to small\r\nruch -- they just wanted to pvp\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:223da45766]  dps\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:223da45766]  almost a year now\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:223da45766]  engineer, skining (310), enchanting, tailor, LW tribal\r\n\r\n[b:223da45766]What is your goal ingame?[/b:223da45766]  +2hrs to server time'),(1635,'8f3fd780dd','','rouge? ROUGE?! \r\n..and how can a troll rogue not have style?'),(1637,'b82515b3a1','','&lt;cough&gt; Zedgee &lt;cough&gt;\r\n\r\n :wink:'),(2130,'ee2f6224da','','The possibility of experiencing that content that\'s been out of our tiny dancer hands\' reach for so long is definitely appealing to me. Even more promising is the chance that this may energize interest for some who havn\'t been online much with level 60 style characters.\r\n\r\nThe expansion coming up will likely help to bring back some more players from their carbonite-like treated hibernations and bring us up to snuff for having numbers closer to 20. Right now we\'d need to shine the FSE light pretty high up in the skies above Gotham city to get our heroes back. Or maybe we just need a real big bull horn...or one of those big shell horns? I digress.\r\n\r\nI\'d like to play with some of these Foundation players.'),(1639,'0f20ac471d','','Shy and I can\'t log in anymore because it keeps trying to apply a patch and then it tells us that we don\'t need the patch because we are already running 1.11.  Then when we try to log on again it does the same thing over again.'),(1640,'1a3255c9d5','','Wow, that sucks man. I would call or e-mail Customer Service on that one. \r\n\r\nWowtech@Blizzard.com\r\n\r\nor \r\n\r\n1 (949) 955-1382\r\n\r\n\r\nGood luck guys!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1641,'0b16c3e6c7','','hes not bad, he just speaks in a different language at times that makes it harder to understand him :)'),(1642,'7b39a7b0c2','','What the hell kind of in game goal is that?!?!\r\n\r\n\r\nno vote\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1643,'c051f5c7a9','','[quote:c051f5c7a9=\"Gorlok\"]Shy and I can\'t log in anymore because it keeps trying to apply a patch and then it tells us that we don\'t need the patch because we are already running 1.11.  Then when we try to log on again it does the same thing over again.[/quote:c051f5c7a9]\r\n\r\nSee if you can download the patch 1.11.1 from a mirror site (filefront, fileplanet, gamespot) and manually apply it.'),(1644,'585b308f86','','http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&amp;t=961641&amp;p=1&amp;tmp=1#post961641'),(1645,'4663fb49fe','Con\'s Application','[b:4663fb49fe]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:4663fb49fe] I hear u guys do zg and aq, and i primarily see you guys just pvping, I want to mainly pvp, but at night i wouldn\'t mind doing some endgame.\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Character Class/Style:[/b:4663fb49fe]  Priest :)\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Talent Build:[/b:4663fb49fe]  Shadow right now.  :)\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Gear:[/b:4663fb49fe]  Err, i have all +dmg and healing gear. with 5k mana and just under 4k health\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]MC Attuned:[/b:4663fb49fe]  No\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]BWL Attuned:[/b:4663fb49fe]  No\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Onyxia keyed:[/b:4663fb49fe]  No\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Sponsor:[/b:4663fb49fe]  \r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:4663fb49fe]  24/7\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]What raid experience do you have?[/b:4663fb49fe]  I\'ve done BWL, MC, ZG, AQ 20, and attempt on AQ 40 first boss. \r\n\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:4663fb49fe]  I came from a different server, Detheroc, on that server, i have both a 60 rogue, and a 60 shaman, I was primarly raiding with my shaman, and PVPing with my rogue... So i know what to do in raids :)\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:4663fb49fe]  Healer\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:4663fb49fe]  about 2 years\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:4663fb49fe]  I can make swiftness pots :)\r\n\r\n[b:4663fb49fe]What is your goal ingame?[/b:4663fb49fe]  For ally to fret my name.'),(1631,'28f5720f3d','','No vote  he doesnt want FHAT LOOTZ'),(1632,'ece74a4b75','','i have grouped with this guy a couple times..seems ok. kinda spazzy at times but seems to get the job done.\r\nyes vote'),(1646,'e19fa217b8','','Jiggaman likes healers even shadow healers!!\r\n\r\n\r\nyes vote\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1647,'1eb4e7f963','','Kind of interesting to see an app from this guy here. He is currently apped with SRTO. I think he may have a misconception about fse pvp.'),(1648,'c7066c1622','','LOL most people [i:c7066c1622]do[/i:c7066c1622] have a misconception about FSE.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1649,'a3584638ca','','it\'s fixed now.'),(1650,'094b6cceb3','','No vote!'),(1651,'9455b9aab9','','There isn\'t a single sentence in this app that doesn\'t scream &quot;bad&quot; at me.\r\n\r\nApakar\'s been in a few battlegrounds I was in.\r\n\r\nI have to vote no.'),(1652,'49b8a7b740','','i vote no as well nothing on this app says pick me'),(1653,'05fc468f99','','i vote yes i like his goal'),(1654,'442c89b4f2','','Give the guy a chance is my vote'),(1655,'759fe00e6d','2 weeks','He sounds more like my kind of person.  doesn\'t seam arrogant, or llike a 10 year old. I vote yes to give him a 2 week trial'),(5730,'3644b1548b','','[quote:3644b1548b=\"barbie\"]you can guess my age by this statement im sure, but what is A/S/L mean?[/quote:3644b1548b]\r\n\r\nAge, Sex, Location.'),(5731,'2bd6f5cc41','','[quote:2bd6f5cc41=\"barbie\"]you can guess my age by this statement im sure, but what is A/S/L mean?[/quote:2bd6f5cc41]\r\n\r\nBarbie just plays, he\'s hanging out in the AOL teen channels doin a/s/l all the time, hoping to dodge Chris Hanson.'),(5732,'44bf994ff7','','13/f/cali'),(5733,'3ece706b15','','[quote:3ece706b15=\"Cthulku\"]13/f/cali[/quote:3ece706b15]\r\n\r\nBut you\'re Canadian! And you\'re older than me!'),(5734,'1eeba29b0f','','Hey Dethe, how do you keep this thing going? I\'m wanting to continue seeing this sort of thing for raids in order to help everyone get an impression of their stuffs!'),(5735,'148d9f778a','','[quote:148d9f778a=\"Dreadwind\"]Hey Dethe, how do you keep this thing going? I\'m wanting to continue seeing this sort of thing for raids in order to help everyone get an impression of their stuffs![/quote:148d9f778a]\r\n\r\nRight now, I use an addon to record the combat log of our instance runs -&gt; use wws\' tool, from their website, -&gt; upload the created chart to my website -&gt; then edit a page on the website containing links to all the charts.\r\n\r\nIt doesn\'t take much time, and I can do it for raids that I\'m not there if someone sends me a combat log, and if you\'re doing that you should pm me on the forums here and I\'ll pm you back an email.'),(5736,'8822fe799e','','I just have a really good vocoder for vent ;)'),(5737,'90013a8eea','Raid Schedule next week!','I was wondering what we wanted to do for raids next week.  The monday night raid this week went off pretty well and I think since it looks like we\'re not going to get into Kara again this week because of the holiday we could take a shot Monday.\r\n\r\nWas also thinking we could maybe see about getting another Gruul\'s lair run going maybe Tuesday, then do either ZA/Kara wed-thurs depending on what kind of group we have online.'),(5738,'a067acb6c9','','I\'m excited.  The new Death Knight class sounds pretty cool.  I like the idea of a rune-based casting system as opposed to mana/rage/energy.  Plus once you do the DK quest you can instantly create a level 55 char on any server :)\r\n\r\nI have to say though, this expansion sounds like it will have significantly fewer goodies than TBC.  TBC introduced flying mounts and 2 new races.  with WotLK we get DK and...new hairstyles...?\r\n\r\nStill, psyched about the DK though.'),(5739,'b6c27fb84c','','Oh, I should also add that Shybella will be gracing the World of Warcraft with her presence again once WothLK comes out so she can level to 80.'),(5740,'ff89c16ade','','I pity the fool that pulls aggro off Mr. T.'),(5741,'b66ae91285','Prot/MS Hybrid','Thinking of changing things up a bit. Tell me what you think.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?050132213523100020010000500000000000000000000055501033010020000000\r\n\r\nOr, should I just leave things well enough alone. I am looking to improve my usefulness in raids. Two tanks arnt always needed, so adding some DPS into the mix may be just the thing we need. Keeping in mind of course I can always jump in to tank when needed.\r\n\r\nz'),(1657,'54b97a0aa6','','i vote..... no :)'),(1658,'4deb3dbc8b','45 min strat','I need it too  :!:'),(1659,'f617c58806','Away for a bit','Not a whole lot but enough to probably stem any attempt I might make at raiding.  Wont be here to make it for Sundays AQ attempt.\r\n\r\nYeppers, going home for three weeks.  In which, I\'ll most likely spend most of it eating anything I can get my hands on.  Mmmmmm Zippy\'s Chili, Portugeuse fried rice from Mililani Restaurant, won ton min, kalua pig (big time bonus points if its from Peoples Cafe), poke (any kind), manapua and pork hash, Korean BBQ, sashimi, oysters served right off the grill (with shredded daikon and shoyu with chili pepper), hamburger steak, chicken katsu, beef or seafood pho (with egg rolls on the side), oxtail soup, my grandmas fried chicken, chicken curry.  And some haupia on the side.\r\n\r\nI\'ll be around some, I have no doubt, but not in those key hours that the guild needs ppl to be to raid.  Which leads me to the second reason to post.\r\n\r\nAfter I get back I\'ll have a good week or so of playing (unless things from work get in the way, which could happen) and then I\'ll be deploying for 6 months.  During that time its highly unlikely I\'ll have readily available access to an internet connection, and even if I do im gonna be half way around the world from the server, so my playing time will be limited to say the least.\r\n\r\nI\'ll most certainly be back afterwards just to try out the expansion, but I am unsure if I\'ll be able to freeze my account for that long.  If I cant no biggy, I dont mind starting over.\r\n\r\nSo, with that... how bout them pandas.'),(1660,'1cb01f794f','Tamuata\'s Application','[b:1cb01f794f]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:1cb01f794f] good ppl in it, skilled and know what they are doing\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Character Class/Style:[/b:1cb01f794f]  Druid\r\nHealer/back up tank\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Talent Build:[/b:1cb01f794f]  0/15/36\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Gear:[/b:1cb01f794f]  some tier 0\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]MC Attuned:[/b:1cb01f794f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]BWL Attuned:[/b:1cb01f794f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Onyxia keyed:[/b:1cb01f794f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Sponsor:[/b:1cb01f794f]  caanon, zeph, rocco/baddvoodoo\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:1cb01f794f]  12-9pm est\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]What raid experience do you have?[/b:1cb01f794f]  brs, scholo,zg, strat\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:1cb01f794f]  levs\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:1cb01f794f]  main healer\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:1cb01f794f]  about 1 year\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:1cb01f794f]  alch 300\r\nherb 315\r\n\r\n[b:1cb01f794f]What is your goal ingame?[/b:1cb01f794f]  to have fun'),(1661,'ce68b590d9','','Congrats dooder!  It\'s very cool to see you made it!  Well, throw some of us a bone here once and a while and join our PUG w/ us from time to time!'),(1662,'d77be419b3','','did a great job in ubrs with us today.  even with the back up tanking since i was the only warr, but only when i died :-P'),(1663,'404d346845','','ive only talked to her, at least i think it is a her, thru tells, seems alright and we could use another dps warr imo'),(1664,'7e89cee1f8','','App is kinda sparse, but it is a character type we need.'),(1665,'03ea33f2ef','My Birthday','Well July, 3rd is my birthday any I will take donations of anything :) (joking) but i may not be online so act like you miss me :)'),(1666,'e20355803c','','A hesitant yes, just because they like said two words per answer...but a resto druid is never a bad thing to at least try out...'),(1667,'f5ce426ff2','','I was gone for the past week so apparently I missed a lot.  BUT...I\'m glad that you\'re still here Dread.  It really would be a loss in a lot of ways if you did leave.\r\n\r\nGranted I\'m not old skool FSE but the whole reason I got into this game and joined this server was to play with friends who I enjoyed playing with.  We\'ve all been in games or guilds where you\'re playing with people who just aren\'t who you\'d choose to hang out with and &quot;that guild/game&quot; sucks.  I\'m guessing that\'s a huge reason for most of us why we haven\'t jumped servers or even to another game for the past however long we\'ve been playing.   When FSE does turn out to be &quot;THAT&quot; type of place then I can say that I will be done with FSE as well.  Maybe others feel that way too.\r\n\r\nAs it is now though, the reason I took a council spot when it was offered was so that we don\'t become &quot;that&quot; guild.  That and the [u:f5ce426ff2]girls[/u:f5ce426ff2]...man, the STARES I get from chicks when I put out the councilman vibe....Having not met most of you personally, from what I know through others and personalities online I feel that it certainly wouldn\'t be a bore or THAT painful to have a drink and watch a game and hang.  FSE is growing and we\'re in the process of putting in place some things that are necessary for us to continue to grow.   Having a system that gives people a chance to change their behavior if they want to be in FSE and are showing borderline-asshat behavior (when we address it with them) and a process to kick them once they have been addressed and proven their asshattiness is a huge step towards keeping FSE how we like it.\r\n\r\nI know I couldn\'t do what some of you do as far as dealing with the daily stuff that can come up in our little world.  I think all of us bring a unique way of looking at this and dealing with the problems that happen as FSE grows but we\'re all doing it for more of less the same reasons when we get down to it.\r\n\r\nWe\'ll make this happen, and I think FSE will be better for it in all the aspects we\'re looking to get better at but it\'s going to take us relying on each person\'s skillset and at this level of FSE (officer/council members) us being up front with what we see needs to be addressed and not letting  the other garbage get in the way.\r\n\r\nSo, to make this all touchy feely and good, in conclusion:\r\n\r\nI rule.  (I was going somewhere with this, but as you can tell, it\'s lost now)'),(1668,'aa90616e63','Hell no','His applicatin gives no insight to personality, other than there apparently isnt one.  If he cant take a few minutes to write a little about himself, then why should i waste two weeks dealing with him.  I say redo app. or a vote a firm NO!'),(1669,'69a939527a','I cant believe I wrote a yes','I would like some more info.  When It comes to goals, they sound a little self motivated. Only wants armor, farm some friggin gold and buy some.  Why should i waste my time geting him armor?  I want some details so we dont recruit a douche.'),(1670,'9fa7c9215f','Happy B - day','happy Birthday, have fun, and we will see you later.'),(1671,'cce2f47fec','','Did you have a bad day at work or somthin barbie? :-P'),(1672,'5354fbb726','Shakamoomoo\'s Application','[b:5354fbb726]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:5354fbb726] I\'d like to join an organized game, Defiance and I are personal friends in RL\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Character Class/Style:[/b:5354fbb726]  Druid\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Talent Build:[/b:5354fbb726]  Resto\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Gear:[/b:5354fbb726]  Starting to collect wildheart\r\nLame trinkets\r\nMostly Blues\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]MC Attuned:[/b:5354fbb726]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]BWL Attuned:[/b:5354fbb726]  No\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Onyxia keyed:[/b:5354fbb726]  No\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Sponsor:[/b:5354fbb726]  Defiance\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:5354fbb726]  PST\r\nSaturday at some point could end up in the morning or at night, Sunday after noons\r\nThursday mornings, and some Tues. Afternoons\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]What raid experience do you have?[/b:5354fbb726]  LBRS/UBRS Scholo, MC once, all the low stuff.\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:5354fbb726]  H.E.L.  Was booted for inactivity, I had quit playing wow for a while and I just came back\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:5354fbb726]  Healer\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:5354fbb726]  1.5 Years\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:5354fbb726]  Minning/Skinning\r\n\r\n[b:5354fbb726]What is your goal ingame?[/b:5354fbb726]  Fun, collect good eq'),(1673,'8fadd8e091','','I say yes on 2 weeks, but let them know that we\'ll be watching them!'),(1674,'bb7bba7bc3','Kurinnaxx dies!','Downed Kurinnaxx on the first shot, nice job FSE.'),(1675,'89df2b2744','','The app is, ok. But he has a RL friend in the guild now. Two weeks will tell the tale on this one.\r\n\r\nYes Vote for healers.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1676,'9d74cb0619','','Yes vote, cause I\'m the Baeloc bitch!'),(1677,'bdb0f39f6e','','Also, I\'d like to apologize to everyone for forgetting to ML the boss.  My bad, in the future, everyone just spam me until I do ML it :) \r\n\r\nI\'d like to really say sorry to Priests and Defiance since the gear that dropped should have been DKP\'d out to them.\r\n\r\nNice job on the run though, a first for FSE!'),(1678,'24202de0eb','Ohnoez is back.','I invited ohnoez back into the guild today.  I think he\'s a good player and asset to the guild.  We talked about the looting the pristine hide thing and he agreed that he would declare before any UBRS pugs he does about skiinning it, if anyone has any issues, feel free to talk to me about it.'),(1681,'6f0a06724f','','He\'s a real life friend of Defiance\'s, I vote yes for that! Since I\'m a real life friend of Defiance\'s!'),(1682,'35114a0f92','','App seems approvable for 2 weeks.  He took some time explaining his build too.  Let\'s see how he does and if he\'s a keeper.'),(1683,'4dd62f71d7','','Grats !'),(1684,'86d089f04b','','Happy Birthday !'),(1685,'315dc54acb','','Happy Birthday!! How old? \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1686,'303f321d71','','I also like the app. and the time he took to full it out. Plus I also have two hobbies! And we need Locks. \r\n\r\n\r\nYes Vote!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1687,'842c1cfb6b','','happy birthday!'),(1688,'669dcec1d7','/gquits','Do we have anyone that has the ability to remove people that /GQUIT from the forums. If not can someone e-mail Grich? I cant remember nor care about there names. I was too busy doing the Happy Dance...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1689,'3db1ea8e02','','Thanx I Am 17!!! :)'),(1690,'24257aacd4','No Guild Forum?','I can\'t read the guild forums. Just to let you guys know.'),(1691,'ac6d880ad1','the ap[p is stronger','I still wish for more personality info, but one of the better ones of late. I vote for 2 week, but lets get him in some groups so we can all get to know eachother.'),(1692,'5499638097','How gose the code of conduct?','We need to finalize a code of conduct, or some general rules of behavior before we get too many new guys, and run into a two week issue window and want to drop people.  Plus i would really like to add some personality questions to the app.  Ones that require a critical thought, or disclose something about their personality.'),(1693,'8c3f1ec2af','','WHATS TAHT SIGNATURE SHYBELLA ? \r\nI VOTE FOR LAPIDATION!'),(1694,'e0c2892621','Guild members, guild applicants, and the future','There will be some upcoming changes to our applications in the future that will focus a little more on elements pertaining to a player\'s character, rather than a player\'s ....character. \r\n\r\nWhat I mean is...ahem...aher, we want to see applicants giving us a little more effort in shedding some light on what type of person they are in their application before we throw out the invite and find we\'re immediately wondeirng what the hell we just got ourselves into!\r\n\r\nA code of conduct is in the works right now, and the draft will be up and running in the very near future. As FSE\'s growing and more personalities begin to form a sick and twisted helix of unique DNA strands from our mind crevices, we\'ve realized we need to establish some boundaries in order to keep the atmosphere cool and clean. \r\n\r\nWe\'re not saying FSE\'s guild chat atmosphere and behavior level needs two foot voices as if we\'re a bunch of librarians, but we\'re definitely going to be leaning farther into the direction of maturity and civility rather than the playground across the street from the RV park.\r\n\r\nThis kind of language &quot;wtf, u all need 2 fukking chill out cuz we got uber hella tight skillz ffs. Cock cock cock, penis penis, pussy vaggy, pussy vaggy jokes ftw ROFL &lt;insert&gt;&quot; is probably not going to be ideal. Insulting guild members, especially publicly, is definitely not going to be tolerated. It seems like a lot of common sense type of stuff to most of us.\r\n\r\nWith everyone\'s help, we can make this guild something much, much better than your typical Boulderfist guild of level 60\'ish players taking down high end content. It starts with the way we communicate with each other as well as the respect we have for the guild in general.\r\n\r\nNow I need a lead in to the next part of this post. Ah ha! Speaking of communication....\r\n\r\nThe subject of guild applicants!\r\n\r\nSo, you have a friend you think would make a great guild member, but the problem is no one but you really knows him. So you send him to the application section of our forums, and he/she pops one out.\r\n\r\nIt\'s surmised of broken and abrupt responses, quick responses, and about as little effort one can imagine putting into a video game club application. \r\n\r\nSo, now imagine what impression those responsible for voting and allowing membership are getting from such weak and lazy applications? \r\n\r\nIf your answer is anything but &quot;This is a piece of crap&quot; you\'re going to get a do-over, but only once. :)\r\n\r\nWe need your help in assuring these applicants that the effort they put into the applications and ability to give us some idea of what type of person they are is key. \r\n\r\nOur applications that we have in our application section are absolutely awful. Just about all of them are pretty lousy, so lousy that even the sub-par wind up showing up as a glimmer of hope and attract &quot;oooohss&quot; and &quot;aaahhs&quot; simply because we havn\'t had someone really serve as an example of what we\'re looking for. We need more than &quot;I\'m a warrior, I can tank, and my goal is to get better gear.&quot; or &quot;I\'m a druid, Felwood is pretty, and I would like to raid more. Ganking is hilarious 2 me.&quot;\r\n\r\nWe\'re considering some of the fault lies in the questions we &quot;arn\'t&quot; asking. \r\n\r\nSo, long story short (too late, eh?) make sure to give a little nudge to your applicant friend &quot;Hey man, make sure to give them a good impression, they\'re tired of the lazy effortless slop they\'ve been getting.&quot;'),(1695,'3b7433ec43','','It\'d be nice to hear some more info but I\'ll begrudgingly say yes.  He/she may be great but it\'s the same old app.\r\n\r\nI\'m supposed to find something nice about it though...they linked all their stuff, that\'s good right?'),(1696,'04509c770f','','Guilded, 7/3/06 for 2 week trial.'),(1697,'e6b6c9c342','','its alright, nothing stands out, kind of blah. but a 2-week would be cool\r\nsee how he/she does'),(1698,'f0c1340d71','','2 important people voted yes here, oh and baeloc too. so yes from me.\r\nplus he\'s resto!'),(1699,'e99fef367e','','by the doom hammer of Lok Thor tis thine duty to vote yay! for he is a warrior of great honor and valor, judge him not for his wee scrottum-pole, but judge him by his might! the wow gods have bestowed upon me the knowledge of his courage, and his absence of fear in the face of doody head alliance!'),(1700,'d6102a9b2b','kthxbye','So here\'s some screens (if it works) of the freakout and eventual /gquit by Xanar, Jtg and Marieejaine, figure that some of you would want to see it.\r\n\r\nThis whole thing started by me asking them to take their chat into a private channel.  Enjoy.\r\n\r\n[img:532:188:d6102a9b2b]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5320/16zo1.jpg[/img:d6102a9b2b]\r\n\r\nA this point they talked about a bunch of dumb crap, including Jtg saying &quot;I\'ve had a hard week with dealing with dumb bitches&quot;, as I pointed out to Udazhi, he\'s 14, he aint even had a shot at dealing with womens.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img:742:503:d6102a9b2b]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1976/22su.jpg[/img:d6102a9b2b]\r\n[img:737:499:d6102a9b2b]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4769/34dl.jpg[/img:d6102a9b2b]\r\n[img:736:498:d6102a9b2b]http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7417/49bn.jpg[/img:d6102a9b2b]\r\n[img:739:505:d6102a9b2b]http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/296/59kg.jpg[/img:d6102a9b2b]\r\n\r\nOh yeah, and I reported Jtg for his comment and was contacted by a GM about it :)'),(1701,'e919442b46','','that was too easy...DKP for everyone involved.'),(1702,'c3d1104af2','','Summary of Kurinaxx fight: Don\'t let the ground eat you.'),(1703,'2384a4503d','','Thanks for posting this Baeloc. Now I can revel in this glorious evening any time I want!!\r\n\r\nz'),(1704,'c5ce1d6a4e','','get him in for 2 weeks he is very interested in us and i say give him a try'),(1705,'d659f97901','Suky\'s Application','[b:d659f97901]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:d659f97901] Cause FSE is the shiz nit. \r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Character Class/Style:[/b:d659f97901]  Rogue/ Sword PVE\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Talent Build:[/b:d659f97901]  15/31/5 \r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Gear:[/b:d659f97901]  Dal rend\'s main hand -mainhand\r\nShadowforge Blade- offhand\r\nAncient bone bow\r\n\r\nSC set\r\n\r\nneck-emberfury talisman\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]MC Attuned:[/b:d659f97901]  No\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]BWL Attuned:[/b:d659f97901]  No\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Onyxia keyed:[/b:d659f97901]  No\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Sponsor:[/b:d659f97901]  Farewell\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:d659f97901]  Whenever im not at work. eastern time\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]What raid experience do you have?[/b:d659f97901]  some ZG (snake, bat, raptor, spider, tiger)\r\n\r\nsome MC (up to Domo)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:d659f97901]  TXC-disbanded\r\nBehemoths- didnt raid\r\nSynx - no comment\r\nOutkast - disbanded\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:d659f97901]  Dealing as much damage as i can with out pulling aggro; tank with face if i do.\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:d659f97901]  1+ years\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:d659f97901]  300 skinner\r\nDisenchanter\r\n\r\n[b:d659f97901]What is your goal ingame?[/b:d659f97901]  To get some sweet epics and become Highwarlord and kill me some allies'),(1706,'8438d6e0a5','','Added July 4th 1:33 AM PST.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1707,'d0f213526d','','This guy did ok in UBRS. Ill give him a try. \r\n\r\nYes Vote.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1708,'0c6f85cc9d','','yeah talked to him a bunch seems ok his women is new fury warrior as well'),(1709,'da58d8ded1','','Sorry Anibus, I dont know how to fix it..\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1710,'3601e1c062','','As always, well said Dread.  \r\n\r\nNext time you read one of Dreads posts try this. Do it using the voice of Andrew \'Squiggy\' Squiggmann from the 1976 Hit TV show Laverne and Shirley. It will all become crystal clear. \r\n\r\n\r\nz\r\n\r\n\r\nPost Script: When reading my posts use He-Mans voice.\r\n\r\nPost Post Script: It\'s 3:05 AM in the morning and I\'m drunk...very very drunk. Even worse, I\'m out of booze, the booze stores are closed, and now it\'s too late to knock on the neighbor\'s door and ask for their booze. \r\nI guess I could go Hobo kicking down by the train tracks and take their booze, cause you [i:3601e1c062]know[/i:3601e1c062] they have some, however the though of Hobo booze tainted with Hobo urine does not sound appealing, even to me, even now. Well the stores open in a few hours, if I\'m lucky I will make it till then. For now, thank God for Pizza Rolls and Hot Pockets.'),(1711,'fb603a338a','Happy 4th !','Hope everyone has a safe and Happy 4th !'),(1712,'8dd1a3b340','','Send a PM to Gricham and ask him to give you access.'),(1713,'9c3e8aaf12','','And screw all of you that dont have to work today! :)'),(1714,'8f9a0ea7ad','','happy 4th of july to all of FSE!'),(1715,'eaadff8f47','','[quote:eaadff8f47=\"Baeloc\"]And screw all of you that dont have to work today! :)[/quote:eaadff8f47]Hahahaha... well said! I am having Gorlok go farm for me while I have to WORK !   :twisted:'),(1716,'0e25d66ebc','','Udazhi was given access to this function a few days ago.  He needs to click on [b:0e25d66ebc]Usergroups[/b:0e25d66ebc] above, then select the correct group to place Anibus in (FSE Guild Members), View Information, and then add Anibus to the group at the bottom left of that page.\r\n\r\nAnd before anyone asks, only one person can manage a group.'),(1717,'9a52e286ab','','I think I\'ll go farming for alliance corpses...'),(1718,'5925481ef1','','Great thanks for the info Grich!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1719,'d6a170b81a','','Thanks for this Dread! I really appriciate the fact that you want to encourage good communication and not just tell everyone to Shut It!'),(1720,'4b5e0bfe13','','fixed'),(1721,'f443a7f311','xanar asking for help','Can you believe her?  she tried asking me to hlep.  Asked her why she didnt ask her guild.  no responcse.'),(1722,'17eaf82c81','','Uda backs him, 2 weeks'),(1723,'7bd903063f','Vent server down for anyone else?','The vent server went down yesterday for me and a couple others.   Anyone else had any luck with it?  Did something change or do we need to pay up on our bill?\r\n\r\nJust wondering and I miss hearing Baeloc\'s sweet Casey Casem like voice.'),(1724,'c4570483b8','','Seems they have changed the IP address of it.  I will update the info.'),(2550,'3f9931ea37','','Thanks for the help with it.'),(2551,'c070240fe9','','I think it\'s an, O.K. idea. Just O.K.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n:mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: \r\n\r\nz'),(1726,'6aed9e8a38','','Good to know!  Thanks Grich.  Does someone want to post that the vent info has changed in the guild message of the day...you know, make people register for the forums to find out new stuff :) \r\n\r\nMight help make sure more are using the forums.'),(1727,'3fa9003613','','i would love to take a crack at this 2nite after ZG... need 3 shamans a preist and a tank... anyone want to help? i know slamber also needs it.'),(1728,'9d623df8cc','','Well hurry up and get back ! Take care ;P'),(1729,'7444bb538d','','Where are you being deployed to?'),(1730,'24e77ba777','Gracku\'s Application','[b:24e77ba777]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:24e77ba777] Looking for a good guild that is running end game\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Character Class/Style:[/b:24e77ba777]  Hunter, pve first then pvp\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Talent Build:[/b:24e77ba777]  Right now im mark but i was always survival cause i liked being able to control mobs in dungeons\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Gear:[/b:24e77ba777]  all but 2 pieces of beast, iced barbed spear and bone bow\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]MC Attuned:[/b:24e77ba777]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]BWL Attuned:[/b:24e77ba777]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Onyxia keyed:[/b:24e77ba777]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Sponsor:[/b:24e77ba777]  \r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:24e77ba777]  Im in az so server times are the same now and i can play everyday until about 9 pm and weekends i have my kids so sometimes i have to go afk to change diapers and stuff\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]What raid experience do you have?[/b:24e77ba777]  i have bwl and mc and ony xp on my priest\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:24e77ba777]  I was in Invictus on drak thul they disbanded\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:24e77ba777]  dps and crowd control\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:24e77ba777]  whenever the game came out i got it\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:24e77ba777]  i have no professions\r\n\r\n[b:24e77ba777]What is your goal ingame?[/b:24e77ba777]  progression'),(1731,'aa7eb542a3','','Simple, but to the point. Has anyone ran with him yet? I do not know the name (not that I should!)\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1732,'c8c173ab89','Nagon\'s Application','[b:c8c173ab89]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:c8c173ab89] i heard u guys were a sweet guild and show people whats up\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Character Class/Style:[/b:c8c173ab89]  Orc warrior, arm/fury (willing to respec)\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Talent Build:[/b:c8c173ab89]  31/21/0 im spec this way for pvp but i plan on starting to raid so im gunna respec to proc\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Gear:[/b:c8c173ab89]  i have alot of def gear still working on more\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]MC Attuned:[/b:c8c173ab89]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]BWL Attuned:[/b:c8c173ab89]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Onyxia keyed:[/b:c8c173ab89]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Sponsor:[/b:c8c173ab89]  \r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:c8c173ab89]  anytime, or when ever im not busy (eastern)\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]What raid experience do you have?[/b:c8c173ab89]  some exp in zg\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:c8c173ab89]  Team x calibre-broke up\r\nBohemoths- did not raid\r\nthe Urah kai- did not raid\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:c8c173ab89]  what ever u tell me to\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:c8c173ab89]  about 1 year\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:c8c173ab89]  mining/blacksmithing(not the best)\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:c8c173ab89]What is your goal ingame?[/b:c8c173ab89]  get exp, have fun, meet new people'),(1733,'46fe3993d7','','uhhh nice guy he really is\r\n\r\nran ubrs with him  he is friend of suky the rogue that is on 2 weeks and lorrai the war\r\n\r\nnice guy though was some issue with guild he is in now ninja\'n an item from ohnoez so i think we should talk to Noez because i think this maybe the guy that got item afte the ML ninja cant toally remeber though'),(1734,'0e1ddb8009','','really not impressed with guy.  if you wanna talk to me about it, find me in game.'),(1735,'3a72f07a3c','The AH','I was wondering if anyone had any idea why the Auction House gets a cut of the money when you sell something. In real life I can understand, but its not real money and the AH isnt a real person! I am a greedy girl and want as much of my money to buy clothes, and jewelry, and candy!!!! Maybe spelling lessons one day too!! It seems foolish to want these things but I really must know the reasoning behind such a weird idea!'),(1736,'da7f118dfc','Re: The AH','[quote:da7f118dfc]I was wondering if anyone had any idea why the Auction House gets a cut of the money when you sell something. In real life I can understand, but its not real money and the AH isnt a real person! I am a greedy girl and want as much of my money to buy clothes, and jewelry, and candy!!!! Maybe spelling lessons one day too!! It seems foolish to want these things but I really must know the reasoning behind such a weird idea![/quote:da7f118dfc]\r\n\r\nA GM logs in types the following: /create 5000g\r\n\r\nBut an error message appeared at the top of the screen, &quot;You must spawn additional overlords.&quot;\r\n\r\nHe reported this to Blizzard HQ, and they got on it immediatly.\r\n\r\nTo fix this problem, they implemented a &quot;tax&quot; system in the Auction House. They never had a shortage of gold again.\r\n\r\nThe End.'),(1737,'881f484342','','it exists to keep the level of gold under control. \r\n\r\nin everquest, there was no way to make levels of platinum until way late in the game.  as a result, inflation got out of control.  items that sold for 200pp started selling for 2000pp because there was so much money floating around in circulation.  makes it impossible for new players to get started.\r\n\r\nif blizz takes a cut of all the trades, that keeps our somewhat reasonable prices from getting out of hand.\r\n\r\nvideo game economics ftw.'),(1738,'138c974de3','','Guess that would explain why the shared AH has a much higher &quot;tax&quot; rate huh!'),(1739,'ef39c3bb57','dkp use','Ok so it sounds to me that people don\'t like the idea of using ones dkp however they feel.  I am fine with forming rules on the use.  It was brought to my attention that some felt bidding on an item you already have simply to drive the price of the good up was non-benificial to the guild.  \r\n\r\nI would have to argue that a good is only valuable to the guild if people are willing to spend to get it.  If someone has 30 points, and they dont think a item is worth them spendig 12 points on it, then it wasnt that valuable of an item.  It basically breaks down to greed.  One can horde all of thier points for a really cool item, or they can spend them on every little item that comes along.  The great thing about dkp, is that it is like cash.  you can buy what you want, cause you earned it.  Who am i to tell you that you cant buy something you have the points for.   Sure one can argue if an itemis a better item for a mage v. a warloc, but who cares if the warloc wants it and can buy it.  \r\n\r\nThe strategy of driving up the price is simple.  get others to spend more of thier points so that when a good item comes up, one has more points of their own, and will be able to get the item.  If i only have 9 points, and you have 20, you will be able to assure that you get the next 2 items for certain.  and when i can only run 1 out of three times, and someone else can run vertually every time, they will always be able to get the goods.  Making it pointless for me to run, cause i will never get teh reward.  But buy gettign that person to spend  7 points for crap and then 6 points for more crap, then when a good item comes along, I can win it.  \r\n\r\nThe great thing about the dkp system, is that it is a capitalist system.  If you have the means, you can buy what you want.  there is no socialism of taking care of the guy.  If that is the case, then we should get rid of the system, and compare everyones gear, and only give an upgrade item to the lowest geared person until everyone is equal.  I dont think anyone woudl like that, but that would be the best way to &quot;help&quot; the guild.  \r\n\r\nthe good thing about the suicide system is that it gives everyone a shot at an item without having one person being able ot buy everything.    Just a thought to toss around.  I would like to have some clearity as to the guild opinon on this topic.  And that means every officer, not just 3 people.  I am more than willing to ajust play to accomadate, but i need a majority vote, and consensus.'),(1740,'c7acce84ec','','First off Barbie, I like you and I like playing with you. I do not want to offend anyone here. I just want to state my opinion, not attack anyone. I certainly understand that there will be a difference in opinions with a game of this size and diversity.\r\n\r\n\r\nMy opinion:	\r\nI do not think that someone should roll and an item they already have, unless that player can use the item. For example: Two of the same non unique rings or something. \r\n\r\nI just have a problem with one guild mate tricking another guild mate into spending more DKP for no reason other than personal gain. That just seems like a no brainer. The whole DKP system is set to reward players for there time. Some may take more time than others to build up points. But to purposely deceive another team mate seems unnatural. We are not selling Used Cars for profit to chumps off the streets here. In that type of business there is room for that type of trickery, but not in a Guild Raid setting.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1741,'5fe8b07a72','','I suck at math.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1742,'db3c4bb311','sounds ok','You know i want more personal info, but he has kids, so he probably doesnt act like one.  I say give him a 2 week, and then we can find out for sure.'),(1743,'f81b96f3ae','check out who is appling and their dkp system','hi I was looking for other dsp systems and liked regardlesses, and happened to see woodcrow has applied there.  their policey is no guilded members to apply.  so has he left?\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp://www.regardlessguild.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=401\r\n\r\nhttp://www.regardlessguild.net/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=17'),(1744,'7f89c18526','Mara','I need to run Mara orange to complete my staff, and then maybe inner as well. I was just wondering if I could get any help from you guys. I\'ve been in 5 pug\'s so far and they never last or take 3 hrs to get everyone there. Any time over the weekend would be great for me, if anyone is interested.'),(1745,'0770cdfab3','','I don\'t think you should be able to bid on something you already have.  The driving up the price on what you already have is chump with a capital HUMP.\r\n\r\nI do think the DKP system is fair and it works.  We reward those who attend which is what we want.  If you attend off and on, you\'ll accrue points more slowly but each of those few runs is never wasted as DKP does not decay like honor (boooooo).\r\n\r\nI don\'t think you are screwing another player if I bid on something you are bidding on and it drives the price up.  If I see some use for an item, but know you would get MORE use out of it and want to drive you to bid more, I may end up wasting my own DKP on something I didn\'t want as badly as you did.\r\n\r\nSometimes the person trying to drive up the price ends up holding what they didn\'t want.  And in the end that means they\'re missing out of something they REALLY want (As long as the bidder doesn\'t go, &quot;You bid 17?, ok then I\'ll bid 18.  I won it?? uhh, i take that back...I didn\'t really want to win it).  It all evens out in the end in my view.'),(1746,'423211b78d','','so TTerag, Temblor, and I got the helms... we used that strategy and it worked great... so if any of u other shamans need the helm and need help let me know'),(1747,'1f714f94ff','','I heard Ohnoez\'s story about the situation that occurred in his UBRS run in which he had some pretty negative contact with these Uruk\'Kai kids. Apparrently the guild leader awarded the Black Blade of Shabazz to this Nagon player regardless of Ohnoez having been not only offered the chance to roll but Ohnoez won it. Now, this could be blamed on the guild leader and maybe Nagon could have been an innocent bystander in it all. \r\n\r\nBut Nagon has apparrently taunted Ohnoez with the item later on in a gloating fashion as though the situation makes him amused. \r\n\r\nThe details of the story, along with this 3rd grade level application  make me vote no. I don\'t believe we\'re desperate enough for this one.'),(1748,'a5f43efc00','','I do agree that the strategy of driving up the dkp price on an item in our system is simple. \r\n\r\nIt is, however, corrupt. Manipulation of the price in such a competitive fashion in hopes of causing a fellow guild mate to be forced to spend more points is ugly. And while I can\'t believe I\'m even explaining that, the ugliness is multiplied considerably when the person stacking the price already has the item in question. \r\n\r\nCan you imagine if Gnomebiter started bidding on some insane defensive breastplate that Zuwani was sporting....and Zuwani started bidding as well? His defense in guild chat, after being bombed with tomatoes and other rotten vegetables and assortments of dead fish would be &quot;I wanted him to spend his dkp points so I could get a better item faster next time.&quot;\r\n\r\nNow, this would never happen in even the most twisted parralel universe.\r\n\r\nThese raids are about upgrading our characters, sure, and we need to accumulate points for these upgrades. The sytem is implemented to give everyone a fair shot, rewarded for their time invested. Comraderie, friendship, teamwork, all that Care Bear stuff. The atmosphere of our raids would make us quickly the laughing stock of the server if it got out we had leaders trying to openly jack up the prices in such a fashion.\r\n\r\nIt\'s a miracle Erg didn\'t leave the guild after last night\'s embarrassing &quot;near fiasco&quot; about dkp systems. In all sensibility, that sort of insulting behavior from a guild member should have made him so furious that he depart. \r\n\r\nNow, while from the start there was no danger of any officer recording or accepting dkp bid by a guild member on an item they already possess, it was a silly situation that blew my mind actually having  seen it occur.'),(1750,'cc9b986ea9','','Our system is weighted to give the people who do the most runs the ability choose the pieces they want.  They can be someone who is looking for multiple minor upgrades or someone who\'s got good gear already and just hanging on to pop that one big piece.  \r\n\r\nIt\'s the same with the ladder system, if I want to pass on an item to stay at the top cause I\'m waiting for a certain item that\'s fine.  \r\n\r\nI would also like to once again stress that doing these runs is about bettering not only yourself, but the guild.  If we dont help to upgrade those around us, having a zillion points wont mean squat, because we\'ll still be killing the same 4 bosses.\r\n\r\nI see no problem with bidding on a item that you potentially want, if you think it\'s worth that many points, then when it gets to a range where you dont think it\'s worth what you\'re bidding for it dropping out.  But bidding up a price just for the sake of upping the price to screw another person is just wrong and I cant wait for someone to get screwed using this tactic and get stuck with a item they didn\'t really want.'),(1749,'0ddcf12867','','no vote from me'),(1751,'403a985bbf','','also a % cut stops people from using the AH like we used to use vendors in SWG .......a place for storage.\r\n\r\n\r\nMy 2 pennies'),(1752,'b4299f2fa6','to capitulate','I guess we will always have a differing opinion of freindly competition and when and what is acceptable.  But i understand that in order to be part of the prolateriat we must have unity.  \r\n\r\nFreedom of discussion, unity of action—this is what we must strive to achieve - V. I.   Lenin\r\nReport on the Unity Congress of the R.S.D.L.P.\r\nA Letter to the St. Petersburg Workers\r\n\r\n&quot;The needs of the One outweigh the needs of the Many.&quot; - Capt. James T. Kirk\r\n\r\nGuess who I admire more?'),(1753,'fef83c0b38','','all i will say is a few  simple things\r\n\r\nI understand what you where tryin to do, many have tried and or done it....but i dont think its the best choice\r\n\r\nIts simple math at end of day all systems work the same  (u you want item now or later)\r\n\r\nbut most important \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nAre we not tryin to place ourselves above the group so we may lead?\r\n\r\n\r\n[size=18:fef83c0b38][color=orange:fef83c0b38][b:fef83c0b38]WWKD[/b:fef83c0b38][/color:fef83c0b38][/size:fef83c0b38]\r\n\r\n\r\n[color=orange:fef83c0b38][/color:fef83c0b38]\r\n\r\nLet\'s try and lead by example of what would be perfect actions, we have enough strife and pain that we should at least not cause any ourselves'),(1754,'19bc53b31c','','The wonderful thing about this game is that each person lives in their own version of cyber-reality.  Nothing can really force an individual to behave in any one certain way.  Actions and words are not modified by face to face personal contact.\r\n\r\nTo each individual, World of Warcraft becomes what ever they want it to be: some idle down time after work and before dinner, a pseudo-gathering of friends akin to a partyline telephone conversation, or that diehard quest for the uber gear and online domination.\r\n\r\nNow look at  the purpose of a Guild: \r\nUsually a Guild serves to help individuals group together and accomplish tasks which could not be done alone.  While additionaly serving as some sort of enjoyable social activity.   If not for these things, a Guild becomes just another channel/color to watch scroll up your text box.\r\n\r\n\r\nGuild Leader, Officers, Council...these people are the role models for what the Guild represents.  New people joining will be looking to the leaders to define the Guilds purpose.  I would hope that purpose is one of enjoyable accomplishment and not just a capitalist microcosm.'),(1755,'e359198ef9','','Horn of Africa.  Lions, malaria, and warlords oh my. :shock: \r\n\r\n/target Shy\r\n/wave\r\n/moo\r\n\r\n 8)'),(1756,'8c2df3a180','Ahkcs\'s Application','[b:8c2df3a180]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:8c2df3a180] I\'ve missed you guys terribly, Bridgar came to my house the other day during one of your ZG runs.  Vent was active, and I was laughing my ass off.  All over again.\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Character Class/Style:[/b:8c2df3a180]  60 badass Orc Hunter\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Talent Build:[/b:8c2df3a180]  0 Beast - What hunter needs a pet when he\'s got a warrior around?\r\n\r\n21 Marksman - 2600 + aimed shot crits\r\n\r\n30 Survival - 15%agility - need I say more?\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Gear:[/b:8c2df3a180]  6/8 beastmaster set\r\nBeaststalker head/chest\r\n\r\nAbout 120 FR unbuffed in mail items\r\n\r\nAll sorts of weapons.\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]MC Attuned:[/b:8c2df3a180]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]BWL Attuned:[/b:8c2df3a180]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Onyxia keyed:[/b:8c2df3a180]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Sponsor:[/b:8c2df3a180]  Hopefully FSE\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:8c2df3a180]  I sleep very little, and work from 7-4 server time\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]What raid experience do you have?[/b:8c2df3a180]  Some MC, plenty of ZG, and very little AQ 20\r\n\r\nI\'m mastered at UBRS, LBRS, Strat, Scholo\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:8c2df3a180]  I left FSE cause I\'m kinda stubborn.  pst me \r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:8c2df3a180]  DPS when needed, and I feign death, and wait for everyone when/if jumper cables don\'t work.\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:8c2df3a180]  Over a year now\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:8c2df3a180]  I\'m a 300 goblin engineer.\r\n300 miner as well\r\n\r\n[b:8c2df3a180]What is your goal ingame?[/b:8c2df3a180]  Basically PvE is what I do.  I still have a lot to learn.   I wouldn\'t mind being a bigger part of a kickass guild.'),(1757,'6bf5998d73','','I WANT I WANT!'),(1758,'1d5e8af3b9','Ahkcs Ap','Ahkcs re-apped to the guild.  Whatchu all think?  He\'s not the first person we\'ve had quit the guild in recent days and want to come back.'),(1759,'fee2a9858e','so ok','i like the guy, he is going through a devorce, so maybe a little stressed lately.'),(1760,'824c771ccf','who?','I vote yes'),(1761,'48619366fb','','People who leave and want to come back? Naw man, naw.'),(1762,'e63770bca0','','Yes'),(1763,'b5be21f11c','','I\'m going no, just based on his first answer to the opening question.  Add in the other circumstances and answers and I don\'t see this as very promising and probably ending with more headaches.'),(1764,'9b03988126','','My first inclination is to say no.  He was complaining and not very patient I believe with what brought on him leaving (something about not being able to get help for SC strat).  We\'ve all been frustrated on not getting a group right away before but have worked on other things while we wait for people to have time and energy to help us in a group.  \r\n\r\nI don\'t like the idea of letting people ping-pong in and out of the guild much but on the other hand real life can bleed over into interactions in our little game here.  He seemed to be a solid guy before all this happens so I\'ll say I\'m for letting him in once again to see if this doesn\'t happen again.l'),(1765,'f16bbcf7a1','glexand\'s Application','[b:f16bbcf7a1]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:f16bbcf7a1] i heard its a good orginized guild\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Character Class/Style:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  rogue\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Talent Build:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  assination and combat might changew after awhile to assination or cumbat with sublety\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Gear:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  cold ridge dager and and vanquisher\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]MC Attuned:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]BWL Attuned:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Onyxia keyed:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  No\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Sponsor:[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  kanaheruc = my cousin\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  alot, 2hrs past game time for time zone\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]What raid experience do you have?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  alot and i watch kanaheruc alot for like zg and aq\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  difrent kinda i dint like em really\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  dps\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  5 mnths\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  im in leather worken and skinnig\r\n\r\n[b:f16bbcf7a1]What is your goal ingame?[/b:f16bbcf7a1]  tog et good gear and be real good pvper'),(1766,'c72223a360','Kraygien out of town and sad...','Hi all!  I meant to drop a quick post a little sooner than this but I\'ve been very very lazy.  I started a five week long vacation a week ago and am out of town visiting family (Ahkcs ;) in Utah.  I really don\'t have access to a computer to be able to play, hence the sad part, but am trying to log in to sew a bit and check my mail for a minute or two every few days.  I did try to see if my grandpa\'s computer might work with WoW but his Internet connection is waaaaay slow.  Got the game installed but it took 45 mins to download the first MB of the patch.  Um, that\'s 1/400+ MB!  Needless to say, I gave up on that idea.  Dialup, especially at 28.8, is a really bad thing. :)\r\n\r\nI do wanna say I appreciate the invites and sure have been missing being able to go.  I sat in Ahck\'s room the other day with he and Bridgar and just salivated all down the front of myself while you all took down that new boss in ZG.  I cried with everyone when the one boss &quot;went stupid&quot; and went back up to full health.  So, I\'m here - don\'t forget me!  Just can\'t play for way too long is all.'),(1767,'c2abcb7bbb','','No, couldn\'t take the time to fill out the ap right.  Heck, I\'ve spent more time in this response than he did doing the ap.'),(1768,'32a62e1d53','','Sorry, no.  One of the sloppiest apps so far.'),(1769,'fe4d069c2e','','but what about his potential builds?\r\n[quote:fe4d069c2e]might changew after awhile to assination or cumbat[/quote:fe4d069c2e]'),(1770,'f81190a2bb','','For me the game is about having a good time, its an oppertunity to escape ones troubles, even if its ever so slightly. the purpose of the guild to me seems to be freindship foremost, and helping eachother acheive in game goals secondly. it may be true that dkp has been earned by the individual and could be spent as he/she sees fit, but in the end how does the spending of said dkp effect others that we consider freinds? it\'s my opinion that we should avoid actions that would adversly effect other guild members. for the purposes of this poll i vote no on spending dkp to raise the cost of an item with the intent of cousing another guildy to spend more dkp so that you can better your chance at getting something you really want.\r\n\r\n ps. Barbie......your still the man! see ya in-game mang!'),(1771,'9b0cfb677e','','no vote\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1772,'41cb5884c9','','if you like the idea of his cumbat build that much, i\'m sure you could arrange something outside of guild.  ;)'),(1773,'864ebfa53b','','hhhii... my names petey... and i...i.. like.. n.. n..nuts'),(1774,'49e8b320cf','AQ20 strat.  give it a read if you plan to raid with us.','zeph found this the other day.  the strat for kurinnaxx works.  did it in the two pugs.  apparently, there\'s two ways of doing the 2nd event.  one with the general, and the other just pulling the waves one at a time.  not sure how well it works.  but it\'s something to try.  also, i found out that if you\'re not at least friendly with cenarian circle, you can\'t get the lt general\'s healing/haste aura.\r\n\r\nhttp://darkwrath.dkpsystem.com/dynpage.php?id=26\r\n\r\nthanks for the info zeph.'),(1775,'cacf68f889','Mastablasta\'s Application','[b:cacf68f889]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:cacf68f889] partied with a few members who played well\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Character Class/Style:[/b:cacf68f889]  Hunter/DPS\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Talent Build:[/b:cacf68f889]  21/30\r\ncrit-build\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Gear:[/b:cacf68f889]  first pvp set + pre 20-man items\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]MC Attuned:[/b:cacf68f889]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]BWL Attuned:[/b:cacf68f889]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Onyxia keyed:[/b:cacf68f889]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Sponsor:[/b:cacf68f889]  \r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:cacf68f889]  4pm-2am server time\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]What raid experience do you have?[/b:cacf68f889]  ZG, AQ20\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:cacf68f889]  dunedain, raid times didn\'t suit.\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:cacf68f889]  dps\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:cacf68f889]  6 months\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:cacf68f889]  mining/skining\r\n\r\n[b:cacf68f889]What is your goal ingame?[/b:cacf68f889]  end game raiding and gearing up for pvp'),(1776,'f5010ca65c','','wow, shortest answers ever! unfortunitly i wasn\'t one of the FSE members that got to &quot;party&quot; with this dude so i dont know how he performed or acted in said group, but i would have to give this guy a no based simply on the lack of cocntent on his app'),(1777,'742d63a584','','but he/she has like lots of raid exp. and watches kana when we\'re in zg and aq20 like alot! and the other guilds.....what ever they may be...they were just differant, thats all.'),(1778,'9bf38cf89f','Sardumon\'s Application','[b:9bf38cf89f]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:9bf38cf89f] i heard there\'s a hot chick in this guild, named Trailya\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Character Class/Style:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  rogue, keelling stuff!\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Talent Build:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  will be switching to cumbat, curently mace specced\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Gear:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  helm of fire, some random blues and greens\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]MC Attuned:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]BWL Attuned:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Onyxia keyed:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  No\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Sponsor:[/b:9bf38cf89f]  alt of Taures, transfer from kil\'jaeden (hehe)\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  like oregon time, from when i log on, till i log off\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]What raid experience do you have?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  wailing caverns, scarlet mon.\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  Lost Oni, those dudes bailed to another server\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  chillen in the back round , afk\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  2 years\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  yes\r\n\r\n[b:9bf38cf89f]What is your goal ingame?[/b:9bf38cf89f]  purple, orange, and reds!'),(1779,'3ec4444723','','this guy wont be on our server till later in the week, he\'s transferring from kil\'jaeden. he totally rocks! its a yes from me, allll the waaayy!'),(1780,'f9e2fd68e7','','Sounds like a douche, and maybe a steve. ;)'),(1781,'61acc47424','','I don\'t like his app either.  He is a trapping freak in pvp though.  I haven\'t seen him in pve but I\'d assume his skills are as good as they are in pvp.  I\'d really like to know more before I say yes or no though.\r\n\r\nI say yes because I don\'t think we can hold it against these guys for short answers (stupid answers absolutely) because I don\'t know what I\'d write to answer these questions that was longer than a few words for each one.  He didn\'t write anything that was stupid or use the word cumbat though.'),(1782,'f674bc04e2','(Here we go again) Hellooooo?','*Echo*\r\n\r\n*Echo*\r\n\r\n*Echo*\r\n\r\nPlease don\'t tell me you guys merged with another guild, too! :( \r\n\r\nBy the way Jaytus hit 60. 8) \r\n\r\nI never see you in the BG\'s Gorlok. =('),(1783,'937f91bef6','','I haven\'t been on that much lately.  Lots of RL stuff going on.  I try to do some WSG and AB when I can though.  I\'ll try to get on this weekend.  Maybe I\'ll see you then.\r\n\r\nGorlok\'s aimed shot crits Jatus for 2345 damage.\r\nJatus\'s pyroblast crits Gorlok for 5312 damage.\r\nGorlok dies.\r\n\r\nDoh!\r\n\r\n :D'),(1784,'2394def56d','','Shy and I are going to miss the draft because we are going to be at a birthday party that day.  Any chance we could move the draft to Sun the 30th?  If not that\'s ok, but what happens if you\'re not there?  Does the computer just pick the person at the top of your list for you when it\'s your turn?  I wouldn\'t mind that, as long as we don\'t have to take the leftovers :)'),(1785,'a1af40609e','','mmmmm BGs'),(1786,'9aeb2c5ef4','Recruitment process - lets get the ball rolling','I know it\'s summer and schedules are full of stuff we all like to do but we really need to get around to this stuff I think.  We\'re getting a lot of applications that I don\'t think any of us like very much.  In fact, I find myself voting yes on apps that I think are pretty awful just to see somethign happen.\r\n\r\nIt seems inviting people throughout the week we lose track of when their two-week trial period is up.  Because of this we can\'t do a very good job of sitting down and reviewing these guys if they\'re FSE material and are keepers or should be tossed on the scrap heap to be taken away.  Would it be easier for all of us, if we waited until there were a set number of apps, or each week and then invited all the apps that were approved for their trial, then we could have a set day where a bunch of people\'s two week trial was up and could review them accordingly?\r\n\r\nOur application does need some more personal questions (TP : Crumple or Fold?) to get a better feel for these people who want to be part of the exclusive club of FSE.   Could we also put a simple question of age on the application?  It\'s not a great way to judge someone, but neither is reading answers to the questions we have now....unless they say they\'re rogue is a cumbat spec.\r\n\r\nI want numbers for MC and the stuff we haven\'t gotten to but I don\'t want to be doing MC someday with people that drive me crazy.  Sorry to re-hash old stuff but I really want us to get better in the sense of the people we bring into the guild.  I know I\'ve been lax on saying yes to some apps I probably should have turned down so I apologize for that.\r\n\r\nWhat are some of the logistic things we need to get done to make some of this start happening?  If there\'s anything I can help with let me know.  I\'ve got all summer off.'),(1787,'cfc6214827','','Fold...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1788,'f74e80cac3','','I have grouped with this guy many times and although he is a guy of few words he seems cool and is definitely skilled.  He can trap like a madman and I am not sure what skill it takes, but he can kite drak for an extended period of time.  \r\n\r\nAnyways, even though his effort on this app. was lacking I think we should give him a trial.'),(1789,'41324f8caa','','hmm... i dont like the tone of this guy...'),(1790,'afc0ebfcb2','','I like what Zeph has to say, plus the added Ranged DSP never hurts.\r\n\r\n\r\nYes vote.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1791,'54f60641aa','','[quote=&quot;Zuwani&quot;]I like what Zeph has to say, plus the added Ranged DSP never hurts.[/quote]\r\n\r\nare you saying i\'m not enough?'),(1792,'5c12e30a1f','','I don\'t see your post Noes?!?\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1793,'6312eac246','','i grouped with this guy in ubrs, we did not make it to drak, but i at first thought he was just a pvp guy, but proved to be quite good and dps and crowd control with traps.  just throwing in my two cents.  i dont think he talks to much at least did not in our raid.'),(1794,'55185c50e0','whoa','has anyone seen the trailers for http://hellgatelondon.com yet?  if not and you\'re a fan of demons, zombies, post apocalyptic future, london, swords, guns, big swords, big guns, and kitties, i suggest you go check them out!'),(1795,'2ecdfb19ac','','we could use more hunters and everyone that has grped with him seems positive i say give him a trial'),(1796,'7d63b3305c','','Definately a steve have to vote  phat NO on this one'),(1797,'57477a7682','','Invited and accepted July 12.  2 week trial ends the 26th.'),(1798,'0bd38b70ee','','Promising indeed.'),(1799,'9e53c41f77','','hi french canadian guy'),(1800,'ca93ffd946','','[quote:ca93ffd946]hi french canadian guy[/quote:ca93ffd946]\r\n\r\nI am not french! &gt;.&lt; *Angry arm flailing!!!*\r\n\r\nI only speak it.\r\n\r\nEdit: Gorlok, I appreciate your confidence in my extreme skills and as much as I would love to be a mage; I am a warlock.\r\n\r\n&lt;3 to all of TBT. Because TBT is not dead.\r\n\r\nAnd it will never die.  :cry:'),(1801,'6d6d4537f8','Gotta love Foxtrot','Shybella found this today:\r\n[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG:600:190:6d6d4537f8]http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/8126/ft0607134ce.gif[/img:6d6d4537f8][/URL]'),(1802,'857c441507','','Jatus is so leet he throws pyroblasts with his \'lock.'),(1915,'325602a335','FSE Forum Hosting','The web hosting bill is coming up in a few days.  If anyone would like to pitch in towards it, go to [url=http://fse.luniz.org/donate.php]here[/url].\r\n\r\nInvoices are on August 1st &amp; February 1st for $74.75.'),(1803,'db7822f2e4','Officer and Council Member Meeting','Officer/Council Meeting\r\nSunday 7/16 around 5:30pm server time\r\n(After AQ20)\r\n\r\nIt would be nice to have as many people there as possible to get shit done and to define asshat!\r\n\r\nPlease let me know if you will/will not be able to attend.\r\n\r\nYou can also send topics or issues that you think need to be discussed.\r\n\r\nThanks so much!\r\nSpoiled\r\n :lol:  :lol:  :lol:'),(1804,'f30dc53d0a','Killin\' the Panther Bitch','Any thoughts?  Sean makes a good point in that we should pick a strategy and stick with it til it works.  What do we want to try?  \r\n\r\n:shock:  :x  :shock:'),(1805,'d3f8272e86','','I downloaded this:  [url]http://files.filefront.com/Training+Video+++High+Priestess+Arlokk+ZG+Panther+Bossavi/;4226473;/fileinfo.html[/url]\r\n\r\n(sorry, don\'t know how to make a cute little link that takes you there)  You guys have much more WoW knowledge than I so you could probably pick it apart much better.  It\'s shot from the MT\'s perspective and it\'s hard to see exactly what the side tanking is doing but they are holding aggro on the panthers REALLY well.  These guys looked MC geared too, or at least the warriors. \r\n\r\nHopefully it\'s got a couple hints for us though.\r\n\r\nEveryone else I read sounds like they DPS it so fast that they are waaaay more geared than we are or use paladins...which we only have rat-bastard shammies.\r\n\r\nThere is good logic in sticking with a strat so we get better at it but also if we don\'t change anything we might just keep getting the same results.  We definitely need more trials on this!  I just hope people aren\'t getting frustrated, but PHAT LEWTZ ain\'t easy right?'),(1806,'e5ce61caf0','','i posted this before but here it is again\r\n\r\n\r\nHigh Priestess Arlokk the Panther Aspect.\r\n\r\nThis is in theory a simple task. (although hard to complete)\r\n\r\nHave everyone stand by the Gong. The main tank should place himself in the middle of the room, and 1 offtank should be placed on each side close to the hay lying in the east and west side.\r\n\r\nWhen you use the gong, the Arlokk will spawn in the back of the room, and run directly towards the party. The maintank intercepts her, and starts DPSing her. After a VERY short time ALL melee and damage-casters should start doing DPS on her.\r\n\r\nBy the hay panthers will start spawning. They should be picked up by the offtanks. These panthers will spawn constantly. They do not do a lot of damage, but eventually there will be loads of them. Keep the off-tanking warriors inside the panther spawning point, while keeping all casters close to the gong. This way they will stay with the tank and not aggro anyone, including the marked person. Do not use the AE advice above as the panthers will stay with the offtanks even when you heal them through the whole fight\r\n\r\n\r\nAfter 10-15 seconds Arlokk will mark a random player in the party and all the panthers will now attack this person. Have as much healing going on this person as possible.\r\n\r\nAfter a few minutes Arlokk will stealth, leaving you with the panthers. Use this time to AE/single kill as many as possible.\r\nWhen she reenters visibility the maintank should gain aggro as fast as possible, and DPS should follow pretty fast. The panthers will now spawn twice as fast.\r\nShe will, if not killed, enter stealth once each 2-3 minutes, and each time the spawn rate on the panthers will rise.\r\n\r\nSo this fight is about healing and DPS. When she is low on HP, have the warriors fear the panthers once in a while, taking the heat off the healers.'),(1807,'c1f012535d','Re: Vicca for Raids','[quote:c1f012535d]  I\'m sorry to hear no priest where on sunday for the raid.  Just to let you guys/gals know, It\'s really really hard for me to get on Wednesday and Sundays next to impossible unless it\'s late.  Any other day with a coffee pot I can make it work.\r\n [/quote:c1f012535d]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nWhere were you last night? (Thursday)??\r\nI thought for sure I was going to have damn nightmares on cats, but I didnt.'),(1808,'6cfd3bd740','','LOL, I read this comic everyday(its on my MSN homepage) and I remember the first time they mentioned World of Warquest and I got a huge kick out of it! Everything they said was so true it was sad!!'),(1809,'7431f5edef','PvP Ranking\'s Week 2!!!','Congrats on the Following\r\n\r\nRank-----Name--------------HK\r\n\r\n74th--------Alphatrion----------16,810 \r\n75th---------Temblor-----------20,143 \r\n136th-------Mastablasta--------33,202 \r\n256th-------Baeloc-------------13,278 \r\n325th-------Ohnoez------------12,588 \r\n425th-------Riryoku------------7,703 \r\n475th-------Defiance-----------4,548 \r\n485th-------Suky---------------11,247 \r\n553rd-------Anibus-------------7,405\r\n629th-------Mesoko------------4,763  \r\n667th-------Mardigan----------7,732  \r\n739th-------Lorrai--------------6,380  \r\n783rd-------Kanaheruc--------4,438  \r\n801st-------Gnomebiter-------8,247  \r\n905th-------Taures------------5,163  \r\n911th-------Unruly------------5,342\r\n943rd-------Zuwani-----------8,398\r\n1,068th-----Magiktchi---------6,429\r\n1,192nd----Zzodd------------4,741 \r\n1,286th-----Dethe------------2,262 \r\n1,511th-----Brendrelon-------1,495 \r\n1,514th-----Warlorc----------4,965 \r\n1,560th-----Shabazz---------16,116 \r\n1,563rd-----Gorlok-----------26,645\r\n1,587th-----Bigmoma--------10,023\r\n1,598th-----Shayme---------3,270 \r\n1,687th-----Merryl---------- 2,247 \r\n1,930th-----Becs-------------644 \r\n1,956th-----Viviann----------1,776 \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nOk Here are the ranking\'s till next week. \r\n\r\nGet Into PvP :)'),(1810,'f598458791','','Yea gor, thats the way it works.  btw, im at a big youth gathering for church for this week, and they happened to have comps with internet.  See you guys Sunday/Monday!  :lol:'),(1811,'601184a92d','','Ah you forgot about me already :('),(1812,'771d51c88d','','hilarious...i read it in the newspaper every morning.  Awesome comic for us WoW peeps.'),(1813,'d71f8371e9','','shit amalo... we already know ur in the top 15 :)'),(1814,'fc53ed4e91','','that punkass is only 29th.  he better get moving slacker :)'),(1815,'38d8fb2396','','[quote:38d8fb2396=\"Mardigan\"]that punkass is only 29th.  he better get moving slacker :)[/quote:38d8fb2396]\r\n\r\n/cry'),(1816,'4593d0bdb0','','Bah.. My rogue fell to 367th. I guess RL does take effect.'),(1817,'b410ae696a','Zul Gurub Panther Boss discussion','No doubt there\'s a lot of you who may have ideas that you\'d like to throw out for the guild to take note of (I know, because I get quite a few tells during raids about &quot;what if we did...THIS!&quot; :)  ) or things you believe you may have the answer for in the case of FSE vs the High Priest Arlokk. She has put too many lumps in our coffee, so ....here is an opportunity to brainstorm! \r\n\r\nOur strategies are derived from mostly me (or someone else who knows the power of the internet search engine magicks) going to websites that I\'ve always found worthwhile and informative as well as experience I\'ve recieved from pick up raids in the past. We also have inside sources, or...what\'s the word? Ah yes, &quot;friends!&quot; in those high level content guilds that have this stuff on farm status who give us a helping hand when a boss makes us appear like we qualify for the special olympics. \r\n\r\nNow, the general consensus I\'ve recieved is that the strategy with the side tanks is the most efficient and &quot;simple&quot; method. I\'ve been a part of two successful kills on the panther, and both used that method. Of course, that was before a patch made the panthers in the side a little more difficult to aggro for a tank. \r\n\r\nNow, during this method what I saw that hurt us badly was Arlokk twice managed to come all up in the side and open the can on my healers. That was harsh of her.  The other thing is that we wern\'t keeping the marked players alive as well as we may have been able to. Now, I can\'t point too many fixes since I was off in my secluded area and couldn\'t see the happenings. I understand too that it can be very difficult to multi task all these little things when your screen is filled with little nibbling kittens. It\'s the little things that kill, and the little things seem to be taking their toll! Zuwani and I could be letting too many cats get by us, though man I swear I was snaggin\' to my best ability! :0 They\'re slippery!\r\n\r\nThe other method that we didn\'t explore to its fullest is using a rotation of 3 mages to Frost Nova the panther adds while the raid\'s free to go buck wild. The nova lasts for 8 seconds, and has a recycle time of 24 seconds, so they act all smarty and mathy, you know like real sorcerers. This may be a tactice we may as well give a shot sometime.\r\n\r\nThe rate of her hitpoints decreasing is slower than when I saw her die before. That &quot;could&quot; mean our dps is simply been low.\r\n\r\nI\'ll tell you what though, the times I did see her fall, it was absolute chaos and death was all over the place. So at least I\'ve never seen it go smoothly.  \r\n\r\nI know as well we\'re &quot;not&quot; bad at this, and we do extremely well raiding. Our Zul Gurub raids are quicker and more efficient than any other I\'ve been on, with far less deaths.\r\n\r\nSo, if you have some ideas, let \'er rip! It is not a good feeling when you can\'t beat a video game boss. Like Final Fantasy II when I was 12 or so, and that damned gnome kept foiling my plans. He was in the cave. He was a cave gnome.'),(1818,'d9b2944d0f','','Is Vicca even real? Or is she something make believe, like faeries?  I\'m not sure anymore. I\'m going to read a book about celtic mythology to try to find out where Viccas go.'),(1819,'33879b9ed1','','Temblor and I are havoc in the gulch, I tell you what! You should see us, we\'re like syncronized swimmers. Tomax and Xamos, the twins from GI Joe. We finish each other\'s sentences. \r\n\r\nGnomebiter needs to get the chops up!'),(1820,'1b4e5a177b','','[quote:1b4e5a177b]Temblor and I are havoc in the gulch, I tell you what! You should see us, we\'re like syncronized swimmers. Tomax and Xamos, the twins from GI Joe. We finish each other\'s sentences. \r\n[/quote:1b4e5a177b]\r\n\r\nI\'d say more like long lost cousins...say Balki Bartokomous and Larry Appleton.  Perfect Strangers anyone?  \r\n\r\nAlpha and I DO perform the dance of joy!'),(1821,'b10b2f99de','','I think that untill you hit rank 12 you should sit amongst the ashes Temblor...\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1822,'2f24f7a2dd','i have a confession to make.','i just beat ffII after playing it on and off across multiple console systems for more than a decade not more than 6 months ago.  my leet DPS doesn\'t translate over to console games too well.\r\n\r\non to real business.\r\n\r\nhere are a few problems and possible solutions i\'ve seen on our last few attempts:\r\n\r\n1) cats are really distracting.  =(  it seems as the whole event is fairly chaotic and designed to distract you from doing full DPS.  when she appears after spawning, it seems like the whole raid is going &quot;oh shit, when are the cats coming?&quot; rather than focusing DPS on the boss.  when the gong goes off, and the tank gets aggro, let fly.  ignore the one or two cats that trickle through until she disappears.\r\n\r\n2) this brings me to my next point.  it seems as though our mages, who are a tremendous source of DPS, blow their loads early in the fight.  our DPS drops sharply after she comes back from stealth.  this could be for two reasons.  a) mages still busy burning down loose cats instead of focusing DPS back on to the boss or b) they just drained half their mana pool from spamming arcane explosion and other AOE spellness and now they\'re conserving what they have left for the next wave of cats.  now the possible solutions:  dread mentions frost nova rotation.  this can work, but i\'m in favor of low mana cost aoe roation.  kitties can\'t break frost nova when they\'re laying on the floor.  now i need a few magely types for some assistance in calculations.  cats have roughly 2800hps.  i don\'t know what arcane explosion does for damage.  but say for the sake of arguement that arcane explosion does 700 to all mobs in a cast radius.  that means it would take 1 mage casting arcane explosion 4 times.  or... 4 mages casting arcane explosion once.  4 mages casting once, each a second apart will a) conserve mana for mages since there\'s not going to be anyone spamming AOE until the boss reappears and b) will help conserve mana for those healers unfortunate enough to be tasked with healing the mages which are mostly likely pulling all the aggro.  if you pull aggro from cats with your one cast of aoe, you will most likely not be hit for more than a second.  once cat population is beaten down to a manageable population, we can easily resume pwning the boss.  if they get out of control again, the lead mage in the rotation can begin the process again when the boss vanishes.\r\n\r\n3) but what about the mark!?  well, if cats are low in numbers from slaughtering them en masse, we should be fine.  otherwise, if someone gets marked and there are too many, they have seconds to live.  being the unfortunate recipient of the mark twice last night, i\'m speaking from experience.  i don\'t about any of the other marked players, i got no heals.    i\'m not pointing fingers and i don\'t care that i died.  shit happens.  however, when someone is marked they should be pulling all the aggro from cats in the area, leaving most healers fairly free to heal.  when a mark is announced and there are cats beating on that person, every healer in the raid should be throwing a medium heal at that person.  if the player\'s hps jump up back to full very quickly, keep an eye on that player for a few seconds more without casting a heal.  druids and shammies should continue to heal as necessary.  priests should resume waiting to heal the tank for when the boss respawns.  a few seconds after the marked player starts receiving heals, mages should already be starting their aoe/nova rotation to clear adds.\r\n\r\n4) step 4, profit!\r\n\r\nsorry for all the runons and poor grammar.  i\'m making little sense this late at night.  feel free to agree with, disagree with, or flame me.  ;)  we need more input on what people are seeing so we can come up with a strat to down this bitch.\r\n\r\nand remember folks, remember to spay and neuter your panthers.\r\n\r\nohnoez, out.'),(1823,'b4c06ac099','','I like the idea of keeping the poor marked soul up, as long as he/she runs around and pulls agro off the rest of the raid.\r\n\r\nI do not think we have the DPS/Healing combo in our group to handle the boss in the standard side room off tank format that we normally try. I think we stand a better chance when we are on all out DPS. Using a combination of keeping the marked target up (hoping it’s a mail or plate wearer!), fearing and freezing the cats, and focusing fire on the boss, I think we have a chance. It seems if we can burn her down before her third vanish we’ll be golden. \r\n\r\nAlso, on most of the videos I’ve seen the raid stands in the gong area. I’m not sure why aside from the fact that the raid healers can stand there and still be in range of the O/T’s. Any thoughts?\r\n\r\nLastly, I’d like to express my gratitude to the Raid in there desire to help us learn about this boss. I know how frustrating this process can be. Especially for those who have downed her before or seen how easy some of the videos make it seem. Our little group of misfits has always had our own special style of killen. ‘FSE Style’ will soon be an everyday phrase in this game and others, I’m sure of it!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1824,'85a1fcd229','','/bumpjustsoIcanfeelgoodandsowecanallrefreshourmemoriesbeforethemeetingwhatitfeelsliketohavethePOWERtoalterthecourseofguildrevelopmentforeverforeverforever.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1825,'5ee7ae6484','Cerridwyn\'s Application','[b:5ee7ae6484]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:5ee7ae6484] Because you seem to be a fairly good guild that is raiding.  thats more than i can say for any guild I\'ve been in since Team X Calbire.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Character Class/Style:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  Undead Mage/Frost-type\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Talent Build:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  21/30 POM/iceblock/coldsnap/winterschill.  pretty good all around build, alright for pvp but not spectacular, pretty good for pve because of mana regen in arcane tree.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Gear:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  [url]http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1594817[/url]\r\n\r\ncheck this out for my gear.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]MC Attuned:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]BWL Attuned:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Onyxia keyed:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Sponsor:[/b:5ee7ae6484]  \r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  4:30pm-12:00pm est. mon-thur.  4:00pm-? est friday, Sat + Sun all day/night if necessary.  I\'m in the navy and have a 24 hour duty day once every 4 days.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]What raid experience do you have?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  I\'ve been up to Broodlord in BWL.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  well that depends which server you want, this character was just transfered though i\'ve been on this server since i started playing with another character (zisor 60/ud rogue).  My mage however has been on Smolderthorn and i just moved her yesterday so i can raid here, I haven\'t raided on the other server with my mage with the exception of a couple mc runs with my wifes guild Dies Irae.  Now I\'m here and plan on raiding with my mage cause its near impossible to get into a guild with a rogue.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  decursing, major damage dealer, Vending Machine.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  aug \'05\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  on this character i\'m 300 eng/300 tailor, On zisor i\'m 300 elemental leatherworker/315 skinner.  can make molten helm and core belts.\r\n\r\n[b:5ee7ae6484]What is your goal ingame?[/b:5ee7ae6484]  make progress in end game experiences and have fun doing it.'),(1826,'738db5f366','','I won\'t be able to attend AQ or the meeting...i forgot about dinner plans we have with friends who live out of town.\r\n\r\nApologies, and goodluck.\r\n\r\nTem'),(1827,'873dade9a6','','I like the app, and I\'ll take the rogue too!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nYes Vote\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1828,'a9fe80f7ba','','Well I wouldnt worry too much about Vicca, I got my lil PvP kick in so now it will be back to leveling with Shayme, so Vicca can take a back seat and watch a real healer at work. Im not gonna mention any names, but in AV last weekend some rl friend of vicca\'s(rogue type) said I healed better than her and Im only 52. :P j/k Vicca you know I love ya.( except when you let Fantus die, after the boss is already dead in UBRS!)'),(1829,'4fd53dea94','','so ur not french ... i have been lied to :(\r\n\r\ni need more french friends'),(1830,'4c7803f4f9','','VYCA is a fearie'),(1831,'284df01306','','He took the time to explain things.  This is more than we\'ve ever seen.  And he didn\'t use any numbers in his s3nt3nces!!!\r\n\r\nYes vote for initiate status.'),(1832,'5c4e5d53a0','','w00!  i like!'),(1833,'ba729b17f4','','App looks good, lost some mages lately, I vote yes.'),(1834,'6587ef6b82','','I\'ve heard it said that Green Whelp Armor is the way to go - it has a 5% chance to put an attacker to sleep for 10 seconds.  One thing I find odd, however, is that Thott ([url]www.thottbot.com/?i=12103[/url]) indicates this only works on mobs at level 50 or below.  The panthers are 60 and 60 elite, aren\'t they?  So, even though I\'ve heard from others and seen on the Internet that this help tremendously it would do no good unless I\'m missing something here.  Just thought I\'d post in case I *am* missing something!  :)'),(1835,'d97e223681','','[quote=&quot;Kraygien&quot;]I\'ve heard it said that Green Whelp Armor is the way to go - it has a 5% chance to put an attacker to sleep for 10 seconds.  One thing I find odd, however, is that Thott ([url]www.thottbot.com/?i=12103[/url]) indicates this only works on mobs at level 50 or below.  The panthers are 60 and 60 elite, aren\'t they?  So, even though I\'ve heard from others and seen on the Internet that this help tremendously it would do no good unless I\'m missing something here.  Just thought I\'d post in case I *am* missing something!  :)[/quote]\r\n\r\nthis strat got nerfed. would be nice though.  =\\'),(1836,'ace00b6683','','[quote:ace00b6683=\"ohnoez\"]this strat got nerfed. would be nice though.  =\\[/quote:ace00b6683]\r\nIndeed!  Seems like someone found a way around Blizzard\'s script of this mob, eh? hehe\r\n\r\nI found a strat at [url=http://www.wowwiki.com/High_Priestess_Arlokk]Wowwiki[/url] that is basically the same as the one Dreadwind posted [url=http://fse.luniz.org/viewtopic.php?t=21&amp;start=0&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=&amp;sid=2dd77571f3a2c05c5ecc20883b16919b]here[/url].  It describes the same strategy a little better, imho, which might help everyone know what their &quot;best role&quot; in taking down this boss is when using this strategy.\r\n\r\nOne thing I wasn\'t aware of is how the mark only aggros pathers which are in line of sight.  Now I understand why this strategy calls for standing at the wall OPPOSITE the gong instead of at the gong wall.  This link indicates how much a pally can help.  Anyone know a pally who wouldn\'t mind joining us to take down this boss? ;)\r\n\r\nThe link also provides two alternate strategies.\r\n\r\n[i:ace00b6683][b:ace00b6683]EDIT[/b:ace00b6683][/i:ace00b6683]\r\nI also located information from a poster at [url=http://vnboards.ign.com/wow_quests_items_locations_info_and_tips/b22838/92015289/r92730258/] vnboards[/url] who suggests the use of target dummies.  I\'ve not used them before so I have no idea how well they\'d hold up or how they work, but it sounded interesting enough I thought it might be worth throwing out there...\r\n\r\nThe strategy at [url=http://lookingforgroup.blogspot.com/2005/11/zg-panther-boss-strategy.html]lfg[/url] seems to back up one of the three strategies at the first site I posted, gathering the panthers in a corner near the gong, but this post seems to be older as it suggests the use of green whelp armor.  It also seems like a more advanced strat as opposed to one which would be best to FIRST take this boss down with.'),(1837,'9633c906aa','','From what I have heard, if the warriors spam taunt and a shamen lays a stoneskin totem and a few of those slowing ones(can\'t remember what they are called) and IF the rest of the guild STAYS on the back wall the marked will be out of the line of sight of the kitties and will not get attacked. Of course the kitties that sneak out would see them, but should be very few if taunting. They saw not to even worry about killing kitties just to keep them aggroed so we can kill Arlokk faster! If a few sneak out I am sure that we could handle them, but I am inly a lowley Mage who knows nothing of Warrior and Shamen ways. \r\n     The guy I was talking to is alliance and they use pallys to heal sides and they use bubble when they get heal aggro, but he suggested the slowing totem(grounding?) Just my two cents, that probably arent worth anything but 2 cents!'),(1838,'cf37849f87','','Becs, what you suggest is what we thought would be our best bet and in what we have been trying to do when we tank the panthers on the sides.  It\'s hard to know what everyone is doing in this fight since the side fights aren\'t even seen by the main group dps-ing the boss.   The people you can\'t see in this fight are sort of out of sight out of mind since each person has to be focused on their job.\r\n\r\nBelieve me, the warriors were taunting/hitting everything they could and the shaman were laying every totem they could think of. Still the panthers that slipped by, and eventually when a side tank died and their panters were released upon the raid were causing major problems.  It\'s good you suggested this though just so people can get a better idea of what we are doing.\r\n\r\nIf we do side tank the panthers and we have a shaman or two for the side tank magma totem rank 1 help light up the panthers as they stealthed by for the tank to hit em, and stoneskin and healing stream helped mitigate some damage on the tank so I didn\'t have to heal as much and could pull less aggro.  The problem that I encounter in my role is as soon as I have to start healing my shaman heals pull aggro quickly and I have no way to reduce it.  The tank quickly goes down once I get too many panthers on me and can\'t keep the casts going on him.  I\'m going to keep grace of air for the agility on my tank as well so the increased agil will help him take less damage with an extra dodge or two hopefully.\r\n\r\nI noticed the side-tanks tried to dual wield to hit faster and hopefully get more strikes in on the panthers that were stealthing by.  Did this work better?  The reason was so that fewer panthers would slip by in between swings of a single weapon right?  Maybe a pot that increased armor for the side tanks to offset not having a shield on would help reduce more damage and save your healers from healing as much?\r\n\r\nI checked and there\'s one pot that will increase armor by 450 for an hour, and one that increases it by 2000 for 2 minutes.  Both of those seem to have some problems in our fight.  One doesn\'t offer enough to make much of a difference and one doesn\'t last long enough.  OK, enough of my rambling, we\'ll get her somehow.'),(1839,'7c280627cf','crap a little thought in an app. who would have thunk it','I likek the fact he put a little info in the app.  I vote to giv ehim a yes'),(1840,'3d3d45dae3','','flask of titans too?  1200hp for two hours i think.  persistant through death.  expensive though.'),(1841,'7520d7dd52','','I need more French Fries..\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1842,'b4a2c746bf','','Posted by Udazhi before:\r\n\r\ni posted this before but here it is again\r\n\r\n\r\nHigh Priestess Arlokk the Panther Aspect.\r\n\r\nThis is in theory a simple task. (although hard to complete)\r\n\r\nHave everyone stand by the Gong. The main tank should place himself in the middle of the room, and 1 offtank should be placed on each side close to the hay lying in the east and west side.\r\n\r\nWhen you use the gong, the Arlokk will spawn in the back of the room, and run directly towards the party. The maintank intercepts her, and starts DPSing her. After a VERY short time ALL melee and damage-casters should start doing DPS on her.\r\n\r\nBy the hay panthers will start spawning. They should be picked up by the offtanks. These panthers will spawn constantly. They do not do a lot of damage, but eventually there will be loads of them. Keep the off-tanking warriors inside the panther spawning point, while keeping all casters close to the gong. This way they will stay with the tank and not aggro anyone, including the marked person. Do not use the AE advice above as the panthers will stay with the offtanks even when you heal them through the whole fight\r\n\r\n\r\nAfter 10-15 seconds Arlokk will mark a random player in the party and all the panthers will now attack this person. Have as much healing going on this person as possible.\r\n\r\nAfter a few minutes Arlokk will stealth, leaving you with the panthers. Use this time to AE/single kill as many as possible.\r\nWhen she reenters visibility the maintank should gain aggro as fast as possible, and DPS should follow pretty fast. The panthers will now spawn twice as fast.\r\nShe will, if not killed, enter stealth once each 2-3 minutes, and each time the spawn rate on the panthers will rise.\r\n\r\nSo this fight is about healing and DPS. When she is low on HP, have the warriors fear the panthers once in a while, taking the heat off the healers.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI think if we have everyone at the gong, it may drop aggro and make it easier to have the offtanks pickup the kittys as they come out of the pens, also it\'s going to let our preists have LOS on the off tanks which will let them help with healing if needed.\r\n\r\nOne thing Uda and I discussed is not really worrying too much about the panthers and just dumping DPS on the boss.  Having priests healing the off tanks will allow our shaman/druid offtank healers to focus dps on the boss.  Cause like the strat says, the more she disappears the faster the panthers spawn.'),(1843,'066f759448','New Computer!!!','This computer is fuc*ing aswome.\r\n\r\n128 MB Video Card. Will be 256 in 2 weeks.\r\n1GB Ram\r\n120 GB Hard Drive\r\n17\'\' Flat Panel Moniter\r\nDVD Burner :)\r\n\r\n\r\nI love it so far ATM I am installing WoW'),(1844,'d7ba0b3058','','Grats man, always nice to get some more power.'),(1845,'f3eceb45f7','A Strat 45 min. run','I\'m leaving for scotland on Thurs. the 20th. But when i get back on the 30th i woul like to try and put together a run in the days after if anyone could help out. It would be greatly appreciated. :wink:'),(1846,'a2c0ef28c7','','I thought that where you\'re from those were called Freedom Fries ;)\r\n\r\nFrancophonie pour la vie!'),(1847,'505097d7e5','','fuzzy should be ready to do that soon too. count me in'),(1848,'cfd39a1b44','','i like the sound of that strat bae.  one thing i would like to suggest is use raid warning or something to put up on the screen who is being marked. because as i was sitting back and healing, i was focusing on the groups and not finding myself paying as close of attention to the chat log.   also with that strategy i think use shammies could help by dropping the earthbind totems right by where the offtanks stand to slow them down, and also temblors great idea of magma 1 totem right there too which will take the panthers out of stealth and be easier to pick up.  another thing i heard from a buddy of mine on another server is that the marked targets need to kite the panthers pulling them away from the raid as a whole and thats where the frost novas help.  just a couple ideas for ya... fuzzy out'),(1849,'813d3020d2','','i don\'t need mine per se, but i can help out.'),(1850,'0bfd662734','','if you use CTRA, it should warn you towards the bottom of the screen.'),(1851,'f5134a4d18','','Fuzzy\'s idea of having it come up in raid warning with the audible noise is a good idea. Ohnoez, you had a macro or a UI thing that would whisper people when they were marked , or at least you had one for the bloodlord when he was watching you.  Could we give you a promote and you change that macro possibly so it came up in RW instead of just whisper?'),(1852,'c9a2395d8d','i\'m in','Im always in.'),(1853,'09d5425883','','the automatic on screen alert only works if you have CTRA installed.'),(1854,'7da4fb556a','','Dread, how did the Letter to Woodcrow turn out, have you heard anything?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1855,'3e2eae8387','','I wasn\'t at the meeting (sorry again) but did we figgure out what people see as the issues being with FSE? Seems like everyone has a little different opinion on what needs to be addressed.  Would having an open poll for members where the results were hidden be possible?  \r\n\r\nI dunno, just to get input from everyone in the guild.  Throwing ideas out to see what sticks.'),(1856,'324721e162','','Survey says: Get CTRA  [url=http://fse.luniz.org/viewtopic.php?t=7]Addons that Baeloc thinks you should have![/url]'),(1857,'e999fdf3bc','','LOL I leave for a week and you guys think you can say whatever you want about Ms. Vicca!!!!  Beware Vicca has this magical spell that keeps you tush from dieing and she never forgets a things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo little &quot;S&quot; better healer eh...bring it on that way I can just sit back, rack up my Points during the raids and drink my tea and eat my bon bons !!\r\n\r\n\r\nAs for you Vamp. Your not even worth the effort it takes for me to type so there  :roll: \r\n\r\nIs Vicca Real?????  When you find the answer to this question please let me know  :lol:'),(1858,'85c5cee2c3','','Vicca needs this run to please  :lol:'),(1859,'72f1d84727','','PvP Ranking Have Been Updated.'),(1860,'9d4d665158','The nifty ice block trick','i really dont know if this will help any mage in any way form or fasion, but one day while running UD strat with the mark of the baron still on, or what ever its called, i decided to waste my ice block. and when i froze , my mark of the baron was gone... i have some crazy theory, but ice block might removes ANY debuff you have on you at the moment you use it, im not sure if it will take off, say, the panther boss\'s mark in zg, but if it does, we may be able to use this to our advantage... somehow. but most of you probably already knew the power of the ice cube, but im just a really slow learner. :D'),(1861,'7bed864944','','Sweet!  I have a decent computer as well, or at least I had one...  It was there when I left for vacation, anyway.  Maybe I should have boxed it up and brought it with me!'),(1862,'7b064d3f5e','access','can someone grant me access to the rest of the forums?  i decided to change my display name on here since some people may not know that fuzzynips = warmaki... thanks guys :)'),(1863,'823a8c2897','','[quote:823a8c2897=\"Baeloc\"]I think if we have everyone at the gong, it may drop aggro and make it easier to have the offtanks pickup the kittys as they come out of the pens, also it\'s going to let our preists have LOS on the off tanks which will let them help with healing if needed.[/quote:823a8c2897]\r\nThe one night I was with FSE for this boss we tried several different times and perhaps the biggest failure was when the main group stood next to the gong as opposed to standing at the wall opposite the gong.  But with several adjustments on strategy staying out of line of site of the tigers when you\'re marked wouldn\'t be an issue I suppose.  One further thing to note, though, is we had a healer on each off tank as well as a third healer for the main group.'),(1864,'ad62823899','','There is no need to make a whole new account.  All you had to do was to ask me to rename your account name.'),(1865,'13b86fa573','','I have deleted the &quot;Fuzzynips/Warmaki&quot; account that you just made and renamed your 1st account to &quot;Fuzzynips/Warmaki&quot;, which will have all access that was set on the account from before.'),(1866,'6f70d7989a','','o... did not know that :) thanks buddy'),(1867,'9a284f73cc','','Anytime'),(1868,'c6dd130ba2','','[quote:c6dd130ba2]\r\nAs for you Vamp. Your not even worth the effort it takes for me to type so there  :roll: \r\n[/quote:c6dd130ba2]\r\n\r\n\r\nThats right, Cause you dont have the stamina or energy to keep up with me.'),(1869,'cfef166791','','[quote=&quot;Vamprix&quot;][quote:cfef166791]\r\nAs for you Vamp. Your not even worth the effort it takes for me to type so there  :roll: \r\n[/quote:cfef166791]\r\n\r\n\r\nThats right, Cause you dont have the stamina or energy to keep up with me.[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\nLOLOLOL Oh Big Boy don\'t even go there, very dangerous grounds  :twisted:'),(1870,'ecdf56ff46','','Draft Time can be changed, whatever day is best for the majority.  WOuld a weekday night be better?  like a tuesday, or wednsday evening like 6pm pacific?  Give some feedback guys.  AND why do we have no representation in the league from Udazhi, SHabazz, Gnomebiter, Baeloc, Jiggaman, Warloc, or Saurdumon?&gt;  Ladies afraid to take on FSE?'),(1871,'f1f9153c00','Lets try to set up a guild meeting','After talking to a few people in the last couple of day i think it might be a good idea to have a full guild meeting.  We as a whole need to discuss what everyones view on what they are looking for from FSE.  Our we and end game guild?  Does everyone want to be a raiding guild?  If we do should we really start activley recruiteing to get to 40 man instances? or our we content on just doing 20 man and wait for lower lvl in the guild to catch up to try 40.  These are just of the questions i wonder sometime and would like to get others view.  So why dont we try to set up a date here in the next 10 days or so that works for the majority.  Post a day you can for sure attend and will go with the most common date .'),(1872,'ac2c034997','','Sounds like a good idea. This weekend isn\'t good for me (family wedding-- yawn), but Mon-Wed (next week or the week after) from 5:30-9ish PM server time would be good, as would Sat sometime from 6:30 PM-whenever, anytime before 4ish on Sun, and the same for the following weekend. \r\n\r\nI\'m pretty casual, so I don\'t know whether my input has much relevence, but I look forward to seeing other people\'s impressions. \r\n\r\n-Cth'),(1873,'99e4fe937e','','12pm - 9pm server time mon - sat.  any time on sunday.'),(1874,'c7eec401b5','','Anytime before this Sunday.  Then I\'ll be out of town for the next 10 days.'),(1875,'9534d7458f','','Life is full of adventures of unknown/dangerous grounds.  If you dont test/explore these grounds, your life would be boring.'),(1876,'d8e420b9f3','','Weekends are bad for me since I am always out at the lake. But any time during the week is good.'),(1877,'afc8cbf40f','','Count me in. Just gimme a few days notice.\r\n\r\nz'),(1878,'5134b10959','','Dude, I can hardly handle one league much less two!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1879,'24f0be1104','','lol JIGGA.  Its YAHOO you have to check it once a month'),(1880,'88b1d7bf7b','','Time to whoop yer azzes! Well, atleast Shy\'s &amp; Shayme\'s  :twisted:'),(1881,'229933ab11','','How are these meetings run?  Vent?  In-game?'),(1882,'4d7c5e6768','','OMG I cant remember my yahoo acct name or password!'),(1883,'42c806b415','','[quote:42c806b415] OMG I cant remember my yahoo acct name or password! [/quote:42c806b415]\r\n\r\n\r\nSee, I am already ahead and it hasnt started yet.  8)'),(1884,'7540e22c45','','[quote:7540e22c45=\"Shayme\"]OMG I cant remember my yahoo acct name or password![/quote:7540e22c45]Hahahaha... that is soooo funny!'),(1885,'e8de48aafe','','[quote:e8de48aafe=\"Vamprix\"]Time to whoop yer azzes! Well, atleast Shy\'s &amp; Shayme\'s  :twisted:[/quote:e8de48aafe]I dont think so ... BUDDY!'),(1886,'517a50369c','','I miss VY-KA!'),(1887,'ca41e8170b','Arcanite reaper','I know I\'m askin a big favor from everyone, but I am pursuing the dream of crafting an Arcanite Reaper for myself.  I was just wondering if any miners or anyone could help me get the mats. They are as follows: 20 arcanite bars, 6 enchanted leather, and 2 dense grinding stones (i can get those myself easily  :wink: ) Thank you in advance to whoever decides to help me with this!'),(1888,'3e64b9ee46','good luck all.','i left today for a larger raiding guild.  thank you for everything.  unfortunately, FSE can\'t keep up with the amount of raiding i would like to participate in.  take care guys.\r\n\r\n~ohnoez'),(1889,'61099f5d0e','People leaving.','We\'ve had quite a few people leave lately for a variety of reasons.\r\n\r\nReasons include transfering servers because of lag, leaving for guilds that raid more, leaving because our guild is too impersonal.  Just in the last week we\'ve lost about 8 accounts.  \r\n\r\nAny idea what\'s going on?  FSE sliding back to where it was before or is this just a temporary stall?'),(1890,'87083f387f','Blacksmithing','What kind of weaponsmiths do we not have in the guild? I was going to be an axesmith until Gnomebiter said he was.  I wanna help the guild, so what should i go with?'),(1891,'d4d21d6c8c','','Nair is leaving too, transfering to a server that has more of his &quot;mates&quot; on it.  \r\n\r\nIt\'s a oceanic server which I guess fits his raid times more.  \r\n\r\nI know this was something we wanted to discuss during the &quot;guild meeting&quot;, but what is FSE?  We going to continue to recruit and push to MC before the patch or are we just going to sit where we\'re at and do ZG/AQ every once in a while?\r\n\r\nWhat do you (officers and council) want to do?'),(1892,'a2da89ff93','MTV is the devil.','Anyone ever seen the show Sweet 16?  Wow.  I dunno even how to describe it.   The whole show is about rich kids and their sweet 16 parties.  I\'m talking like hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on parties by their parents.\r\n\r\nThe one that is on right now. is a girl who had a midsummer night theme\'d party.  There\'s also a hip hip dance routine that the main girl is in.  We\'re talking like hundeds of people there too, as well as shout outs by various singers, topped off by her dad giving her a $40,000 Volvo SUV.\r\n\r\nI\'m afraid for the youth.'),(1893,'812c01ae57','','Most days after 6pm would be best for me this week.  Only exception is Thursday the 27th, heading to the coast for my brother\'s birthday.'),(1894,'e67777a436','Re: MTV is the devil.','[quote:e67777a436=\"Baeloc\"]Anyone ever seen the show Sweet 16?  Wow.  I dunno even how to describe it.   The whole show is about rich kids and their sweet 16 parties.  I\'m talking like hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on parties by their parents.\r\n\r\nThe one that is on right now. is a girl who had a midsummer night theme\'d party.  There\'s also a hip hip dance routine that the main girl is in.  We\'re talking like hundeds of people there too, as well as shout outs by various singers, topped off by her dad giving her a $40,000 Volvo SUV.\r\n\r\nI\'m afraid for the youth.[/quote:e67777a436]HAhaha... I NEVER watch MTV... Because it\'s the DEVIL!!!!!!! And that show sounds really LAME! And I think someone should be there at their little sweet 16 parties to beat them ALL up! (IMO) =)'),(1895,'5acb2ff0f2','','I could see you there doing that.'),(1896,'a8fc3af9e1','','[quote:a8fc3af9e1=\"Baeloc\"]I could see you there doing that.[/quote:a8fc3af9e1]Who me?!?! Haha.'),(1897,'a49f640b1e','','[quote:a49f640b1e] I miss VY-KA-DIN! [/quote:a49f640b1e]\r\n\r\n\r\nFixed!'),(1898,'473989c8b2','FSE FANTASY FOOTBALL PART TWO','Anyone who is into Football can join a Fantasy Football league I created in yahoo. \r\n\r\nhttp://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/joinprivateleague_league_select \r\n\r\n\r\nLeague ID is 54631 \r\nLeague Password is : WOW \r\n\r\n\r\nAnyone is open to Join, but there are now only 6 free spots. So join up. Settings in league are negotioable. DRAFT TIME CHANGED TO TUESDAY THE 1st @ 1830 (6:30pm).  IF THIS IS A PROBLEM TALK TO, MASEMA, COBBLEPOT, PHEBOM, GLOWSTICK, OR TALK TO KRYOS OR DISENCHANT.  He knows how to get a hold of me.'),(1899,'65a7e3c102','','mon-fri 6:30 pm till 11pm, saterday/sunday any time'),(1900,'ad751c5dff','','Tue &amp; wed are my days off, any other day I work until 9 cept on sundays when im off at 6.  I would like to get in on the next meeting.'),(1901,'e54867dc2b','','i agree that paople are leaving for dif. reasons. what can we do, we cant make EVERYONE happy ALL of the time. i for one am not the hard core gamer that wants to raid 5 days a week every week.3 days a week has been perfect for me. maybe others are impatiant and want to be in ony, mc, and bwl now, and be there every day. at the end of the day, why are we playing this game? what is your goal and how do you want to achieve it. if some one leaves becouse FSE\'s pace isn\'t fast enough for them, we either have to adjust to meet their needs or they are better off in one of those &quot;job like&quot; guilds that you are required to raid x amount of days per week. if they leave becouse we wouldn\'t play fair and let them tank, or they brought the ball and they\'re going home and telling their mommy! then we dont need them any way. if they leave a trail of F-U\'s! in their wake as they leave we ask our selves did we provoke that, or were they just a spoiled brat that didnt get their way.\r\n i say FSE is what it has always been, a bunch of guys and gals that play this game to have fun and escape the grind that is every day life. along the way we strive for better gear and better abilities. people that have joined in the past joined becouse of who we are, not becouse we became what they wanted us to be. the bad touch joined us, not the other way around (correct me if im wrong) it seems to me that most of them didnt mesh well with FSE,  i think thay thought they would come here and share leadership which was discussed wether or not any one was a good candidate  and they proved they were not.\r\n FSE remains! we are here! and we\'re not going any where, we may only have 30 members total, but it will be the close nit, respectfull freindly people that make this game what it is, FUN! if thats all FSE is than i am a happy shamman/ rogue/ preist/ mage..ah..this list could get long...........'),(1902,'a8ce550e5f','','heh, for my 16th b-day my pops got me a 6 pack of budweiser, a pack of smokes and a blunt (dont worry im clean and sober now, im a dad my self for crying out loud!)'),(1903,'1aac40f3fa','','Pretty much anytime at all for me, this week would be better though, my brother isn\'t here so I have all our split WoW time to myself *giggle*'),(1904,'0c9a8e5a38','wednesday is best','Hi,  i finally have a bunch of crap behind me, and can play more this week.  Wednesday is best for me...wife has appointment...so let me know.'),(1905,'615126ea38','guild meeting','I normally have mon&amp; tues off.  I am currently trying to accumulate my final elements pieces and would like to work my way up to more 20-40 man instances.'),(1906,'5dbe4e8fbf','teh 45er','hey. i would love to do a 45 min run, but i fear that my gear isn\'t quite up to snuff.  I am currently half way through receiveing my elements/five thunders gear but would like to help out anyway. let me know , slamber'),(1907,'530acfe00e','Elements gear to five thunders','Hey all, I am in the process of getting the rest of my elements gear.  I am at the point of needing to do muliple ubrs runs for gyth.  A  bit of help would be nice and i would be happy to help out other guildies as well \r\n\r\nJust say the word. :P'),(1908,'22f3621fa8','Tikilord\'s Application','[b:22f3621fa8]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:22f3621fa8] 4 of my friends in real life are in it and they all want me to join and im getting closer to 60.\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Character Class/Style:[/b:22f3621fa8]  Troll, Shaman, Elemental\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Talent Build:[/b:22f3621fa8]  38/0/5\r\nBeing able to do nice crits with lighting and shock spells.\r\nNot being able to do a butload of dmg with weps.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Gear:[/b:22f3621fa8]  Helm of Exile, bindings of elements, Gizlocks Hypertch Buckler, Cold Forged Hammer, Deep Woodlands Cloak, Blue Dragonscale Breastplate, Trirune Amulet,Lonetrees Circle, the rest is green mail armor that gives int, stm, spr.\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]MC Attuned:[/b:22f3621fa8]  No\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]BWL Attuned:[/b:22f3621fa8]  No\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Onyxia keyed:[/b:22f3621fa8]  No\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Sponsor:[/b:22f3621fa8]  \r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:22f3621fa8]  Central, between 1 in the afternoon to 1 at night. (play a little too much lol so ill be on alot)\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]What raid experience do you have?[/b:22f3621fa8]  Not much.\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:22f3621fa8]  SonsOfKorral-most of the good players left and there wasnt very many ppl left.\r\nPretty Pussies changed to Chamillion\'s Guild-Just hasnt grown (still has 12 ppl in it)                          \r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:22f3621fa8]  healer, because that is what i have heard most shams do in endgame instances.\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:22f3621fa8]   Since May\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:22f3621fa8]  My porofessions are skinning and dragonscale leatherworking. (both 300)\r\n\r\n[b:22f3621fa8]What is your goal ingame?[/b:22f3621fa8]  A very good armor set nice wep good friends.'),(1909,'3c3f1c0ece','','freind of some guildies that weren\'t listed, no raid exp. but atlrast open to the idea of resto. 2 weeks'),(1910,'942bcc7627','','i\'ve been playing my rogue alot, and pug\'s are painfull i never jion them.\r\nbut i will kelp you, just let me know'),(1911,'e854214731','','well our little man amalo made the big jump to general yesterday and got the first three pieces of his warlords armor set.  congrats!!!!!!!!'),(1912,'f680d9048d','','Ok, he says he was rushed through this by his mom naggin him about somethin.  He is a good RL friend of me, Mesoko, Anibus, and Riryoku, and pretty much plays 24/7.  He is lvl 53 right now.   I hope u guys give him a chance, he\'ll be an awesome raider at 60!'),(1913,'e3cbbe9100','','Yes Vote. \r\n\r\n\r\nZ'),(1914,'2710098fc0','yes','i say to give him at least a noob status and see how he gets along with others.'),(1967,'96663d33cd','.5 where are you? do you are to try for it?','I have noticed several of us are to the duke part of .5 quest, and im tring to get an idea of where everyone is in the quest so we can try to help out each other who is intersted in getting the .5 gear.  so please let me know where you are on the quest, if you plan to continue, and all that jazz.'),(1917,'78a2c120ac','','Guilded 7/27, 2 weeks up on 7/10'),(1918,'0118eb08e5','','grats Amalo!'),(1919,'6cd9882cbe','','nub.'),(1920,'38fed023e6','','Thanks guys...especially Baeloc. Hopefully in a month (or 2 or 3) I will be warlord and will see if by some miracle I can make the grind to high warlord. Very unlikely on the hwl, but I can dream cant I?'),(1921,'127284bc7a','','ok by those dates he is already out :)'),(1922,'94dbde4dc5','Ahkcs\' wow hours...','As everyone may already know, I don\'t sleep too often.  I do however become an undead hunter from 8am to 5pm M-F.  Then, I find myself back in this computer chair, where I left off.'),(1923,'c334609e75','','Maybe it\'s 07, jerk.  Maybe they\'re really long weeks.'),(1924,'b52236aaed','','I\'m all about UBRS right now - *still* need my robes!  I\'m on vacation for another 1.5 weeks but after that when you see me in game after that I\'m all for UBRS.  (GAWD I miss my WoW!)'),(1925,'f3f7a0dfd1','','You know my address...  I\'m not ready for a 45 min run yet but I\'ve never done it and need to learn more about how it works. :)  I think I have Sat/Sun/Mon off and I\'ll be back home ifo my computer on the late night of 8/4, I believe.  I\'m still working graves and therefore pulling all nighters.'),(1926,'329bed329d','Character txfr, need /ginvite','Kraygien\'s transferring to a new account on Boulderfist.  From what I\'m reading it looks like my guild affiliation will be negated so if any \'o you officers see me online please /ginvite if you still love me.  I\'m still on vacation for the next 1+ weeks but do log in for a few seconds now and again when I find myself standing next to some poor soul\'s computer.\r\n\r\nPS:  Why is it that hardly anyone I know has a computer that will run WoW?  I mean, it\'s an ANCIENT game already!!\r\n\r\nPPS:  I just purchased a new WoW game and found out it now consists of 5 CDs instead of the 4 it used when I purchased my first copy.\r\n\r\nPPPS:  Hope my post was as enjoyable to read as ever.'),(1927,'6e0c3a5e9c','','I am crying right now.  :('),(1928,'4375094233','','Yer doin what?  Able to transfer a character off your account to another account?  I\'m confused.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nAnyways, just holler at one of us and we\'ll get you back in, minus the standard 100g handling fee for this type of thing.  You can send it straight to Baeloc @ The Mail Box.  :)'),(1929,'0c09b9389b','','maybe'),(1930,'9de4f51f2e','','anybody know what guild?  was just curious.'),(1931,'7bd5f32ca2','','I believe he joined Regardless.'),(1932,'523e9eb562','','Yup, zakly!  You can transfer a character from one account to another account now with &quot;paid character transfer,&quot; but only if you own both accounts.  You can also choose to transfer a character to a new realm, but I didn\'t want Kray on a new realm, just wanted him on a new account so he could help my other characters out a little, mostly with enchants.  I\'ll also be able to have &quot;instant item transfers&quot; from the bank instead of having to wait for the mail.  And besides, I\'ll soon be needing another bank character anyway and I\'ve just about hit the limit for # of chars on Boulderfist. ;)'),(1933,'ae19b9f830','','Ah cool, didn\'t know you could do that, sounds like a great way to sell a character :)'),(1934,'3e83177755','','Well, cept the new account and the old account have to be owned by the same person...\r\n\r\nGnomebiter got me back into the guild, thanks again!  If anyone thinks of it when they see me online, having my rank back would be super nifty...  I\'ll /tell if I see one of you high and mighty folks online if I think if it myself as well.  Not a stressor by any means, and sorry for the trouble.\r\n\r\nI can\'t wait for the day Kray and my alt can meet face to face when one of them isn\'t dead!  Should be interesting...  Monday...  I\'ll be home on my own computer on Monday...  :)'),(1935,'b36ebaa184','Panther boss','I thought this was a great strat for the panther boss that we could pull off no problem http://www.wowwiki.com/High_Priestess_Arlokk strat 4 Hellfire. Please read up on this and let me know what you think.\r\n\r\nMeshach'),(1936,'9e34874ceb','','Well Vicca you are gonna have to pick up your slack job again. I cant cover for you anymore. Im gonna be outta town for the next 2 weeks! So for now you can have your healer spot back, atleast till I come back. :twisted:'),(1937,'9e5aa3cec2','I want one!!!!','OK i know this will expose my computer noobness, but.......\r\nHow do i get one of those cool signatures like what Baeloc and Vamprix have. Ya know the picture at the bottom of your post that has your name lvl class and guild?\r\n\r\nany help would be much appreciated and you will be greatly rewarded in a previous life!'),(1938,'7b8e8481f4','ZG Tonight!! 8.2.06','Don\'t be late!\r\n\r\nInvites start at 6:30 pm server time.\r\nRaid starts at 6:45.\r\n\r\nPlease be in GG for invites to help speed things up.\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\n\r\nz'),(1939,'02ab86ba97','','Aaaargh!\r\n\r\nI found out our draft time got changed to today at 12:30 but I\'m stuck at work and can\'t connect to the draft server from behind our firewall.  So I\'m stuck here, hoping the computer is making good decisions for me....'),(1940,'949127ed3d','','I was at work myself, but I disabled our firewall so I could do the draft.  :twisted:'),(1941,'98158c0a21','Be on the lookout, be safe.','There is a dangerous virus being passed electronically, orally, and by\r\nhand.\r\n\r\nThis virus is called Weekly-Overloaded-Recreational-Killer (WORK).\r\n\r\nIf you receive WORK from any of your colleagues, your boss, or anyone \r\nelse via any means DO NOT TOUCH IT.\r\n\r\nThis virus will wipe out your private life completely.\r\n\r\nIf you should come into contact with WORK, put your jacket on and take \r\ntwo good friends to the nearest pub.\r\n\r\nPurchase the antidotes known as Work-Isolator-Neutralizer-Extractor \r\n(WINE) or Begin-Excessive-Extremity-Relaxer (BEER).\r\n\r\nTake the antidote repeatedly until WORK has been completely eliminated \r\nfrom your system.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1942,'d3e3e5f89b','','Only badasses can do it, Steve.'),(1943,'e97c5d20ae','Emilio Estevez','what do you call Emilio Estevez at a black tie formal?\r\n\r\n\r\nEmilio DressedToImpresstevez'),(1944,'0e1af11825','','what do you call Emilio Estevez handing out candy?\r\n\r\n\r\nEmilio DispenseAPez'),(1945,'53ac33e322','','what do you call Emilio Estevez handing candy out of the back of a van?\r\n\r\nEmilio Molestevez'),(1946,'a80ee74090','','Or his brother  Charlie Estasheen\r\n\r\nor his pops  Martin Estasheen'),(1947,'35055c10a0','','Damn it. Tell them the one about the fucktherestavez. :( It was the winner :( !!'),(1948,'1886ed69b0','','Nice...  Had to copy/paste this one to my friend Michelle.  :)'),(1949,'29c6567ff0','','then how did you get one? ---giggle--- you dont think your a bad ass do you?'),(1950,'99808c40f6','','Looks like that one might be a fun one to try...  I LOVE my hellfire!\r\n\r\nThey talk about using a &quot;couple&quot; of heal over times, though.  Can priests do that?  If not I guess it would mean having two druids...  I do know it\'s hard to keep a hellfire going for a long time for two reasons.  First, of course the same damage that is done to the mobs is done to the lock which can be hard for healers over an extended period.  Plus, though hellfire may be mana efficient for the damage it does, it is very mana expensive.  To keep it going for a long period of time the lock will need to transform much health to mana forcing the healers to work even harder.  When possible the lock could bandage, though.\r\n\r\nAll in all I think it sounds like a fun thing to try out, myself.  Would we need four healers, one for the lock, one for the grp/lock and two for the cages to cover alt tanks on the panthers?  Or would we just let the panthers come out?  It sounds like two locks would be ideal, as well, for when one lock is marked.  I do think we tried hellfire at one point, but it wasn\'t an organized and planned out hellfire.'),(1951,'4678e6c953','','Hello, my name is Taures and i.......i am a victem of this work virus.\r\nand well sir..............i didnt like it'),(1952,'375dac72c6','','is this the new chuck norris shit?'),(1953,'2fcebdc263','','what do you call Emilio Estevez trying to kill only you in a crowded room?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI\'llKilleeYou FuckTheRestevez'),(1954,'332d707384','','what do you call Emilio Estevez as a booty robbing pirate?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nHe\'llStealio TreasureChestevez'),(1955,'e50b7277ce','','What do you call Emilio Estevez as a cannibal at a shriners convention?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nEmilio IngestAFez'),(1956,'9c8f3edbb2','','[quote:9c8f3edbb2=\"Kraygien\"]\r\nThey talk about using a &quot;couple&quot; of heal over times, though.  Can priests do that? [/quote:9c8f3edbb2]\r\n\r\nYep, it\'s called renew.'),(1957,'8200699b16','','how do you like your team gorlok?  I havent bothered to look yet.'),(1958,'cfce6d3cae','','I don\'t get it.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1959,'0fbbf2c134','','what do you call Emilio Estevez wanting to touch a porn star\'s chest?\r\n\r\n\r\nI\'llFeelio FakeBreastevez'),(1960,'4dbd936109','','I think we would just let the panthers come to the group.  THat way we dont have to worry about a minimium of 4 people (2 tanks, 2 healers) on the cages.'),(1966,'c95f5e66b1','trust in taures','im trusting Taures.  yes'),(1962,'96e85fdb7b','Eavicarr\'s Application','[b:96e85fdb7b]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:96e85fdb7b] I have been a member before, freinds with Taures \r\nleft to join  lvl\'ing guild. now that i\'m getting closer to 60 i\'d like to join and run with my freinds again\r\ni am prepared to prove my loyalty to FSE and hope you will give me the chance to prove it\r\n\r\nthanks for your consideration\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Character Class/Style:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  undead, warlock\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Talent Build:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  destruction, high damage output, crowed control\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Gear:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  dreadmist belt, bracers, wraps\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]MC Attuned:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]BWL Attuned:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Onyxia keyed:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Sponsor:[/b:96e85fdb7b]  \r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  daily, 5pm till 10 pm server time, all weekend\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]What raid experience do you have?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  Zul\'garab, just little stuff\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  Blades of the Unforgiven, FSE. left becouse of Marriejane\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  dps and crowed control, SS and healthstones\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  off and on since open beta\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  enchanting/skinning\r\n\r\n[b:96e85fdb7b]What is your goal ingame?[/b:96e85fdb7b]  have fun, hang with freinds, contribute to raid parties\r\n\r\n\r\napp was done at Taures\'s house and says he is the auther but app was filled out by Eavicarr'),(1963,'16642a844a','','lol, after he did his app we went to review it and noticed it said i was the auther. i give my word the app was filled out by Eavicarr\r\nas for my vote, what can i say, i\'ve known the guy for 24 years. yeah he left on bad terms but i think he has grown a little and understands that the guild cant always help him quest. it goes with out saying i give him a 2 week pass, but i leave it to you guys to decide'),(1964,'67d1a5cde6','','Sure just hope the attitude has changed.'),(1965,'6ebaa6e005','','I say yes'),(1968,'a90e93e23c','whats up with the guild?','so what is up with the guild?  I am gettign the feeling that several people are giving up on the guild, wow, or soemthing as to it.  I am hoping we grow and can do some raids on a more regular basis.  I would like to suggest we do somethings differently to re-invigerate the troups such as have a town raid, where we kill some young ally, or rule over bootybay or something like that.  Maybe even own the VC area so a bunch of 60s have to get pulled down to the newb areas , our version of crossroads (i hate i twhen they do that).  so le tme know if everyone is still planning on playing or if maybe we should consolidate with another rec guild and then we could jus trun stuff, and not have to worry about the guild?'),(1969,'e0a3cdd225','Snugbeast\'s Application','[b:e0a3cdd225]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:e0a3cdd225] I\'m looking to join a guild so that I can start doing some raid instances.  Right now I really want to start doing MC and start getting some Might/Wrath gear.  I have found that it isn\'t very easy to go guild shopping and see what the guilds are like.  For example, I dont know if you guys even do MC anymore.  My approach is to apply to guilds that look good and look like they can handle end game, and if they see what I\'m looking for and it fits them and they want me, then woot.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Character Class/Style:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  Tauren Warrior DPS\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Talent Build:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  31 arms, 20 Fury.\r\n\r\nI\'m setup for DPS atm, I used this build for leveling and haven\'t changed to prot yet, mainly because I don\'t feel I have the gear to make it worth it.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Gear:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  I have mostly blue gear, I have a green helm and chestpiece that I am running instances atm trying to fix.  I don\'t have any epics. At the moment I have the Belt, Gauntlets, Belt, and Spaulders of Valor.  With shield out my total armor count is 6344.\r\n\r\nI am running AV to get to exalted at the moment for TUF and IMO.  I\'m 22% of the way through revered and hope to be exalted in a day or two.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]MC Attuned:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]BWL Attuned:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Onyxia keyed:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Sponsor:[/b:e0a3cdd225]  \r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  Every weekday from 11am - 7pm Central Time.  Most days I can play later than 7pm, and I can play from 10:30pm until the AMs.  Weekends I am unsure of at the moment as I may be aquiring a weekend job soon.\r\n\r\nI\'m pretty flexible though.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]What raid experience do you have?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  I\'m afraid the only raid experience I have is UBRS and AV.  This is my first 60.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  I have been a member of the Serenity guild when i was on the Crushridge server.  I leveled to 60 and then I transfered to this server to play with some friends of mine.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  I think at the moment my main role would be DPS and maybe off tanking.  I will need better gear before I can do anything else.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  I have been playing WoW for over a year, I have had several different characters that I have leveled to various levels.  This is however my first 60, so I do not have very much end game experience.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  My professions are lacking at the moment as my main goal is gear and a guild.  I have a 40 warlock that I will be leveling to 60 eventually that could contribute.\r\n\r\n[b:e0a3cdd225]What is your goal ingame?[/b:e0a3cdd225]  My goal end game is to be in a good guild that can kick ass and get great gear.  I want to be proficient at MC, BWL, Ony, AQ, etc.'),(1970,'0aea9dcd24','','Zeph, Baeloc, Veine and myself are all needing to kill Lord Valthalak.  Lets group up and at that point in the quest and down him as a guild bonding time.    We can sing and roast marshmallows over his burning corpse.'),(1971,'30a11e45e8','','I think there\'s some burnout and summer activities call.  We do need to be recruiting somehow.  Whatever your style is...personal invites with pug members or spamming the city chat we need to get on it I think.  If we spam and have lots of apps, we need to be efficient at rooting out the bad ones though.  Any thoughts?'),(1972,'7d5c1457c4','PVP Mondays?','I think we should have a pvp day scheduled.  Some of us pvp on a regular basis and we all think it\'d be fun to get as many FSE involved as possible.  I\'m hoping something semi-scheduled would give people a reminder to come and join in on the bloodshed.\r\n\r\nMondays seem like a great day since it\'s the last day of double honor in a particular BG.  We need to put our vent server to work so be sure you can hop on that too if possible.  Depending on the turnout we\'d just figgure\' which BG fit us best and hopefully make killin\' our business...and there\'s no doubt that business would be goooooood.\r\n\r\nHope to see you on.'),(1973,'ab07c4cac6','','The sick GM speaks\r\n\r\nI think Temb said it best some burn out, some summer crapola, and the rest is a sprinkle of RL issues.  I am FSE for life so as soon as I get my face right I shall return and with a fire of a thousand suns.  We need to recruit to hold us at 20 man content.  That means all of us need to do it not just one or two.  I am also lookin at revampin  &quot;how&quot; we do the recruit phase to speed up the process.  So any ideas would be greatastic'),(1974,'b3c421ebf1','For the Love of the Game','Let\'s all remember why we came here.  If it means for a while FSE is altland or lowbie aid so be it let\'s play this game for the right reasons and the rest shall work itself out.  I feel all those who have left didnt need a group of friends to enjoy this game they need phat lootz.  Well I for one need my friends and as a great Orc Warlock once said if the lootz come while I am havin fun with my friends Bonus!  I am here for the love of whackin stuff with my friends and that shall never change.  Stay classy FSE'),(1975,'0b9906ab20','','If you guys did get organized enough to get 15 together, I would recommend AB. The alliance are not putting up much of a fight in AB these days and with some practice using vent you could get the 3 node or 5 node strats down. AB is all about team work and good movement more than gear. If you had a 15 man team you could 4 and 5 node most games. DO and Super Winners are the only occational teams right now and they are normally wsg teams waiting for that queue. \r\n\r\nAmalo'),(1976,'24e516b94f','','i would like to get my helm from sholo first, then start the quest line, going to do the first part soon.  i ran sholo and got my boots the other day, thanks to farwell, spoiled, bigmoma and warlorc, thanks again guys, was a very big learning exp for me, tanking all alone :).'),(1977,'f54f624d7c','','Barbie - I know that Zeph and Meshach are grinding rep with Cenarion Hold, and that they summon dukes alot.  You should get in contact with them to see if you can hook up for some summons.\r\n\r\nMardigan - If I were you I would start the quest line now, it takes quite a while and the helm is the last piece you need.  We\'re just now getting to where we need to be to upgrade the helm :)'),(1978,'fc6b9d388d','','I would say yes except for the fact that he wants to do MC and we\'re nowhere near doing MC. So no from me, wont want to be in FSE once he realizes we arent doing MC and will just split anyways.'),(1979,'62b9366d60','','Back home.  Warm and dry.  :)'),(1980,'ad1f8cf8b4','','QFT'),(1981,'b2d7a962be','','Glad to have you back home  :)'),(1982,'87c1c15d83','','Welcome back!'),(1983,'9b31adc872','','I am at the 45 minute strat run, and i still need my helm, boots, and leggings...any help for either the 45 min or the runs that give me those would be great ( esp. the 45 minute, pugging that is retarded)'),(1984,'6f68188cd4','','[quote=&quot;Udazhi&quot;]The sick GM speaks\r\n\r\nI think Temb said it best some burn out, some summer crapola, and the rest is a sprinkle of RL issues.  I am FSE for life so as soon as I get my face right I shall return and with a fire of a thousand suns.  We need to recruit to hold us at 20 man content.  That means all of us need to do it not just one or two.  I am also lookin at revampin  &quot;how&quot; we do the recruit phase to speed up the process.  So any ideas would be greatastic[/quote]\r\n\r\nYes, can you please fix your face...I didint want to say anything, but, damn. We all have to look at that thing, the lease you can do is fix it.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1985,'461c30a795','','Thats all fine and dandy, but the part about the &quot;great&quot; Orc Warlock...please, he\'s the devil.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(1986,'49e8cfbcea','','I am also at the 45 min strat run, and have other pieces of my set still to collect, but I can\'t recall what exactly they are. So help with the 45 min strat run would be most appreciated.'),(1987,'ac7aeae690','','Farwell needs the ghost stuff and 5 pieces \r\n\r\nUda is all done with SC set but is also at the 45 min strat run\r\n\r\n\r\nI know Bigmoma is at the ghost part \r\n\r\nand Spoiled is at 45 min strat with the need of 2-3 pieces'),(1988,'1041bf5cf0','','Dreadwind has to summon a Duke of Cinders and wipe his face clean with kill.\r\n\r\nAlphatrion doesn\'t really know what he\'s doing, but his hands are very...very dirty.'),(1989,'93b804d162','','thanks for the trust guys, added earlier this week'),(1990,'ce1d4bf1ce','','well said, its exactly what i have felt from the start'),(1991,'c0011c8f19','','sounds like fun!'),(1992,'e3f6eed8d1','','Sounds good to me.'),(1993,'f69c43d5f7','Help needed!!!','I have got my skyfurry helm but i need a little help i have puged it like 20 times alwase fails so plz reply if you wouldn\'t mind helping.'),(1994,'07060631b6','','I\'ll help, but more information will be needed.'),(1995,'03e86b672e','','I can help too, then you can help when I get my shammy up there :)'),(1996,'14a8053663','','I can help too, as long as we can kill the bosses that drop my helm and boots :P'),(1997,'86dee9858b','','I must admit, I originally didn\'t enjoy pvp. It was not good on my prostate to join a battleground and notice right away I was outgeared and sent to the graveyard time after time with spits, slaps and laughs.\r\n\r\nBut shortly, I began to understand a few &quot;techniques&quot; that enabled me to achieve some success. Before you know it, pvp battlegrounds began to provide for me a whole heck of a lot of wet and wild fun. The rewards for pvp are enough to make it worthwhile for most every class. \r\n\r\nNow, that fun is magnified when you\'re out there with some cool friends who have a little bit more going through their heads than &quot;wtf???&quot; and so on.\r\n\r\nSo even if you don\'t currently find pvp as your particular shot of jeigermeister dropped into a 3/4 full pint glass of Red Bull, some of those nights when we can\'t get a worthwhile event going can easily be exchanged for an FSE royal rumble. Monday night? Count me in. We have enough players in the guild with good sense to get pretty good at it. \r\n\r\nThere may come a day even when an alliance player joins a battleground and clicks on the icon near his map to determine what Horde players he\'s up against.\r\n\r\n&quot;Oh hell, not FSE. I don\'t want to be farmed.&quot;  He\'d say and bang his head a few times against the desk corner to lose conciousness and thus have a more legitimate excuse later on when his friends call him yellow for exiting in such haste.\r\n\r\n\r\nI\'ll join you on Monday night, with my Khan wig on. That\'s right. My Khan wig. And it will be on. My head is where. So that I\'d look like him.'),(1998,'2ba6a02b97','','Is that Ghengis or Wrath of: ??\r\n\r\nIt matters you know.'),(1999,'5fae301c99','','Wrath of, of course. He stands for so much more in my life than the trivial Ghengis and all his little insignificant ponies!'),(2000,'553bbf2c13','','I need the 45 min run as well, and my pants...where are my pants?\r\ndamn! i hate it when that happens.'),(2001,'cfcbd3cdea','','That Im the devil?\r\n\r\nppphhhh! Zuwani, are you high?'),(2002,'0a11465781','','I agree with Zuwani, he the devil.'),(2003,'92f985b1bc','Raid time poll.','This is just a quick poll to find out when people would like our raid times to be scheduled, then maybe we can find a better time for everyone to get better turn out.\r\n\r\nI for one can raid pretty much Monday-Thursday 6-10pm PST and any time on the weekends.  What about the rest of you?'),(2004,'be424899a8','','Well, my mom has a rule that which i have to get off the comp at 10 CST. Now, If i am at Mesoko\'s house, i can raid whenever, but only on weekends.  My best time would be weekdays starting at 4-6 server time.  But thats just me, because i dont have a job to go to...'),(2005,'efda1d34a2','','Your pants, along with everyone else\'s, drop from the Baron in UD Strat.'),(2006,'7c58408c13','','8pm server time is the earliest time that works well for me when I\'m working nights, but I can only raid on my days off (\'cuz I\'m working 12s) which are currently Sat/Sun/Mon and switch to Wed/Thr/Fri in a couple of weeks.  I do my darndest to get up earlier when the raids start an hour earlier though, and can sometimes make it when they\'re a couple of hours earlier.'),(2007,'f65eab9497','','I get the impression that I\'m on a bit of a different timetable than most here, since I\'d prefer earlier rather than later raids. I can be on any time from 5:30-9 ish PM MWF if a raid were to be scheduled before 6:30. Also, Saturdays after 7 ish and most Sundays from 11:00 AM until 4 ish would work fairly well. \r\n\r\nGranted, all this will change in a couple of weeks when the new term starts up again, but hopefully it will mean that I\'ll be more available rather than less.'),(2008,'c9f9c7eb1f','','i can help this weekend, friday night, late sat night or early sunday or all of sunday, just depends on when the wife gets home.'),(2009,'cf05ca8eb4','raid times','my times have changed some and the only times I can come for sure are:  M 6-9, and thursday 6 - 8:30 and Sunday evenings.  the rest of the time is when I can'),(2010,'5fc52ca70d','Kill Alliance','OK we have pvp monday, and such, but with 1.12 and being able ot hold territory comming out, I for one would like to do a little ally ganking in the world outside of BG.  Its just fun to see the force they try to muster and cut them down.  It seems the aliance do a better job at raiding towns from stonetalon, crossroads, and tarren mill.  ANd I would like to try to get some raids going where we can go clean up on them.  So if anyone thinks sticking an FSE banner in downtown stormwind sounds like fun, please let me know.'),(2011,'41f5fea2c9','DKP for those who showed up?','I know we were awarding dkp for people who were showing up ontime, and sticking till the end.  But, are we giving dkp for those who were on wed and thur for raids, even though they didnt take off?  I know I couldnt make it wed, but was on thur, and I didnt know what was gong on?'),(2015,'7a7774d52e','','Well, I guess I should post the times that would work best for me instead of just say that the times already posted work well; which they do btw.\r\n\r\nSo, \r\n[b:7a7774d52e]Monday - Thursday[/b:7a7774d52e] anytime from 4:00 pm - 8:00 pm would work well for start times.\r\n[b:7a7774d52e]Friday, Saturday[/b:7a7774d52e] start time would have to be a little bit later, about 6:00 pm - anytime.\r\nand finally [b:7a7774d52e]Sunday[/b:7a7774d52e] anytime would work for me.'),(2016,'4ec2389e45','','Is there a time that most of you PvPers will be on, on Monday?'),(2017,'f47492c921','','lol kk well there well i got to go in the other basement all kill some mobs then drop some hard ass dude then it\'s all over\r\n\r\nWitch i can\'t realy do anything after 8 Sever\r\nstupid School is back  :lol:\r\n\r\nhmmmm\r\ntuesdays or fridays are good for me around like 1 sever to 3 sever \r\nif i got HW= Homework then probly my time would be around 5 sever or so'),(2018,'a2157bd865','I hate when this happens.','[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus[/url]\r\n\r\nAnd you thought numa numa was bad?'),(2019,'89a22248d7','','I hate you Temblor...\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2020,'800c3e0644','','We each have our own personal story to recount of our own &quot;candy mountain&quot; Zuwani.    Hopefully through concerned people\'s efforts like the ones in the video I posted we all can learn to let go and move on with our lives.\r\n\r\nWhat\'s YOUR candy mountain?'),(2021,'3332f4bd5c','','I dont wanna talk about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2022,'d7c31ead21','','[quote=&quot;Shayme&quot;]Well Vicca you are gonna have to pick up your slack job again. I cant cover for you anymore. Im gonna be outta town for the next 2 weeks! So for now you can have your healer spot back, atleast till I come back. :twisted:[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\nWho the crap are you??? And how dare you talked to me like that!!!!  I know one thing you better not ever talk to me like that again or I\'ll disband you, ohhhh wait I don\'t have that power  :evil:   You better hope I don\'t get it either  :lol:   Love ya Shayme'),(2023,'f629a78c47','','WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!!!!   :o  Where is everyone one going without Vicca whatever am I missing  :x   \r\n\r\n\r\nBrilanie is at lvl 55, five more lvl\'s and we will be ready to rock and roll with you guys, as for that Larren chick who runs around acting like she is some sort of warlock, her days are numbered,  Vicca does not like Larren!!!!'),(2024,'fd2b0f57e3','','Once Brilanie hits lvl 60, she and Vicca will be ready to join ranks until then I don\'t like to listen to &quot;HER&quot; ( meaning Brilanie, who is my &quot;Big&quot; sis, well anyways SHE IS MEAN!!! ) so until I hear that magical ding of lvl 60 for her having Vicca out is next to impossible  :cry:'),(2025,'7ff282b0ff','','FINE. DAMIT TEMBLOR\r\n\r\nJack Daniels, Papa Smurf, and well Punky Brewster (we\'ve been down this road before..) There I said it. Thats my GOD DAMN CANDY FUCKING MOUNTAIN. \r\n\r\nThanks Temblor, thank a lot. Now I feel like total shit. You couldn\'t just let it go. You had to push it. You had to lead me to the friggen &quot;Mountain&quot; again.\r\n\r\n\r\nWarlorc, not a word...\r\n\r\nYou see, Warlorc is that friendly little Billy Goat that roams freely amongst the scrub brush atop Candy Mountain. He’ll pretend to lead you, frolicking and singing along the way. However his motives are much, much  more sinister…\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2026,'1d3c55274e','','Zuwani, this will make it all better.  If this doesn\'t melt your heart you probably killed puppies when you were young.\r\n\r\nhttp://heartheartheart.ytmnd.com/'),(2027,'faae5ae3db','','SHUN THE NON-BEliever  \r\n\r\n\r\nSHUN\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSHooooooouuuuunnnnnnnnn'),(2028,'25f84707b7','','Thank you Temblor, I feel better now. \r\n\r\n\r\nDid anyone else notice that the second little red guy on the left seemed to be looking at you. I don’t mean looking at you, but looking [i:25f84707b7]at[/i:25f84707b7] you, into your sole, your core, the very center of your existence. Did anyone else notice that? I did.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2029,'843aa4286f','','&quot;...its impossible to wear a frown in Candy Town, its the mecca of love , the Candy Cave..&quot;'),(2030,'f4d5b6a17e','','[quote:f4d5b6a17e=\"Temblor\"]Zuwani, this will make it all better.  If this doesn\'t melt your heart you probably killed puppies when you were young.\r\n\r\nhttp://heartheartheart.ytmnd.com/[/quote:f4d5b6a17e]\r\n\r\nI just had a seizure.'),(2031,'c400870463','Raid schedule','Wed and thursdays still work good for me for zg aq would be better on a sat night or perhaps monday or tuesday\r\n\r\nMeshach'),(2032,'d53aaf3b38','Huge Thorium Battleaxe','Hey, I am wondering if anyone here can make me some [url=http://thotbott.com/?i=26003]Huge Thorium Battleaxes[/url]. I need 3; it will probably take me a little bit of time to get the mats, and I\'ll pay you a service fee.'),(2033,'a3c24750d5','','5 minutes of my life that I will never get back...'),(2034,'039a3adc6b','Call To Arms Addon','Does anyone else around these here parts use the Call To Arms addon?  I\'m having a problem with one aspect of it and want to compare notes.  What version are you using?'),(2035,'4b4608a89c','','Thanks to all who came out for a few games Monday night.  We had a good couple of games amid getting smacked around by some really good Alliance teams.  \r\n\r\nWe had 5 or 6 at the most from FSE in Warsong...imagine the possibilities if we got 10!  OMGZORZ!  I have a dream...one day, one day....\r\n\r\nAnyhow, here\'s some study material for our next Monday.  \r\nDon\'t be a &quot;random&quot;\r\n[url]http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-7841802512113765045[/url]'),(2013,'a94d3cdcd7','Thank you','Before you begin reading, please go to your music library and double click on Don Henley\'s &quot;Boys of Summer&quot;.  Don\'t hesitate, or question...just do it. Before it\'s too late.\r\n\r\nAs many of you know, we\'ve hit a dry period here in the middle of summer time where the guild isn\'t exactly able to meet raid attendence on a regular basis and do those 20 man events you all were getting used to. \r\n\r\nWhen that dry spell hit, we lost some players who sought out other guilds to raid with.\r\n\r\nSome of you have remained with FSE, and while it makes me sound like I pitch underhanded for the pink team, thanks for staying. I\'m sure many of you have recieved invitations from other guilds, or you\'re more than good enough at this game to be considered by a guild that raids some fancy shmancy places such as Naxxaramas or Blackwing Lair. \r\n\r\nWe\'re working on recruiting more players, good players, to refill our ranks and get the raid machine\'s mechanisms, gyros, and gears turning again. We\'re not desperate for new members, as we do expect the return of many once the rain comes back, of course.'),(2014,'432b3e6da2','','Ok, so I\'m not much a PvPr, though there is a possibility I would join in (and show off my inability to PvP) if I happened to log in at an appropriate time.\r\n\r\nBUT, I just had to reply to say:  ZOMG YOUR POST ROCKS!  This will serve well as my entertainment for the evening.'),(2036,'3d8498530f','','It was fun, sorry I couldn\'t stay for long.  I think with a little more practice FSE can be feared by Alliance PUGs server wide.'),(2037,'17659e0bb6','','y\'know that heart heart thing had me enthralled for way to long.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\npumbyumbyumpkin'),(2038,'fe859952c8','','It\'s actually one of our own that is singing the song.  Baeloc, you have such an adorable voice.'),(2039,'baed1a1c2c','Dethe rides like no one else.','[img:400:507:baed1a1c2c]http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9831/dethesheepar0.png[/img:baed1a1c2c]'),(2040,'1e47e62fe9','','That\'s amazing, thanks for posting it for all of FSE to see.\r\n\r\nUpon closely inspecting the image it looks as if the rider is a sheep, I was hoping for it to be a pig for some reason.'),(2041,'e8b1c325e6','','I actually got a response from the author who verified what I was experiencing is actually a bug and will be taken care of in the next release.  (I\'m using a beta release, r11b1 I believe...)\r\n\r\nThat said, it doesn\'t sound like anyone uses this addon.  Um, a word of advice:  USE THIS PLUGIN! :)  It\'s a LFG plugin that makes life SO much easier.  It allows you to keep track of lfg/m messages in a separate window and it filters out the garbage while muting the now over zealous LookingForGroup global channel.  It also performs a /who check on the sender of each lfg/m message and keeps the sender\'s level and class in the separately windowed list as well.\r\n\r\nBut in addition it allows you to CREATE a lfg/m message that will automatically go out every so often.  You say how many of what classes you want to be in your grp and the message that goes out says &quot;type \'/w &lt;username&gt; details\' for more information.&quot;  When peeps do that they get an automatic list of what level and types of players you want for your grp.  If they match the criteria they can type something like \'/w &lt;username&gt; inviteme\' to automatically join themselves up in your group or raid.  It\'s FANTASTIC!'),(2042,'39bc5e68dd','','incredible.  Is he using his little sheep-teeth to hold onto the reigns?'),(2043,'00206f48c4','','Thank you for the tip. I find myself just removing LFG from my channels. \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2044,'4cfb0c5ca7','When games attack!!','Has this ever happened to you?\r\n\r\nhttp://www.dump.com/links.php?link=740462&amp;a=1&amp;b=1&amp;c=2&amp;o=popular&amp;p=1&amp;r=all\r\n\r\nz'),(2045,'9e71f01ea4','','Good one. I LOLed irl.'),(2046,'e78044909a','','I think this one is from when my game of Ninja Gaidan came to life.  \r\n\r\nAnyhow, you can\'t beat ninjas and music from Last of the Mohicans.\r\n\r\n[url]http://www.dump.com/links.php?link=65690&amp;q=urban+ninja&amp;c=2&amp;a=1&amp;v=text[/url]'),(2047,'8583f955e8','','I think I\'ll pass this time - don\'t want to lose another 5 mins of my life! ;)'),(2048,'40bdaa9d16','','Yeah, that\'s what I was doing as well - but I found it made it a bit difficult to look for a group. hehe  I actually LIKE the idea of the global lfg channel now that I have CTA up and running.  And as far as the other features go, I still need to play around with them a bit but it seems like a BREEZE to get a group together yourself with the &quot;create a group&quot; options.\r\n\r\nI\'ll really start using it once he works out the bug in the beta version so the addon will start announcing your lfg automatically every 5 mins...  I wish the time between messages could be user changeable in the interface, but maybe with the next beta release...'),(2049,'5f8164e4fc','\'s Application','[b:5f8164e4fc]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:5f8164e4fc] i heard thats its a good guild and i want to start to raid ... and thats it :)\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Character Class/Style:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  orc rouge ....\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Talent Build:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  Subtlety - very good for raidin i have imp sap which is very nice a lot of people like it \r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Gear:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  i have ghostshroud all stormshroud set umm felstriker and hanzo sword as weaps \r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]MC Attuned:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]BWL Attuned:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Onyxia keyed:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  No\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Sponsor:[/b:5f8164e4fc]  \r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  i play during betweem 1 st and like 10dt\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]What raid experience do you have?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  umm i have none really but my older brother does hes 18 iam 16 does i watch a lot so i know a lot of how to handle things and situations\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  axe gang they disban ... and there is no cow lvl i wast lvling fast enough so they kicked me and thats it ...\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  umm since iam a rouge dps .. \r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  i have been playin for about 2 years ....\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  umm right now not too many but i could in the future\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:5f8164e4fc]What is your goal ingame?[/b:5f8164e4fc]  to get my best gear possible and to have a great time with people'),(2050,'eb248060c3','','Talked to this guy a bit and told him realistically what FSE is doing raid wise and hoping to do.  He still seemed interested.  He hates Rabite though so that\'s a plus right?\r\n\r\nI told him to take his app seriously and even hinted at editing and reading through it so it wasn\'t too sloppy.  We\'ll see if he does.  I\'d say yes if he cares enough to take the time to clean up his app.'),(2051,'af179780aa','','what the hell....and i was dumb enough to watch the second, now i am a nonbeliever, couse i dont believe i just sat through that crap!'),(2052,'5370501f61','Firanos\'s Application','[b:5370501f61]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:5370501f61] I heard you havnt been raiding as much recently however you still have a lot of 60s. I mainly like running the 5-10 man instances and that is all I need to achieve 8/8 of tier .5.\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Character Class/Style:[/b:5370501f61]  Mage\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Talent Build:[/b:5370501f61]  Elementalist, 0/37/14 (Arcane/Fire/Ice)\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Gear:[/b:5370501f61]  4/8 Tier 0, 3/8 Tier .5, Headmasters Charge (Staff)\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]MC Attuned:[/b:5370501f61]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]BWL Attuned:[/b:5370501f61]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Onyxia keyed:[/b:5370501f61]  No\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Sponsor:[/b:5370501f61]  \r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:5370501f61]  Weekends, PST (Server Time)\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]What raid experience do you have?[/b:5370501f61]  None\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:5370501f61]  Bleak, they had no 60s by the time I got to 60. Abyssal, I joined them for 2 days and second day I logged in all leaders had quit for a merger without telling the rest of the guild.\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:5370501f61]  I am all out DPS being fire speced.\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:5370501f61]  A little over 2 months.\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:5370501f61]  300 Tailoring, 284 Enchanting\r\n\r\n[b:5370501f61]What is your goal ingame?[/b:5370501f61]  Since I can really only play weekends the highest tier set i will probably ever see is .5, so I am aiming to get that.'),(2053,'ed493b0c11','Boohbah\'s Application','[b:ed493b0c11]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:ed493b0c11] Looking for a good, friendly guild that raids.\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Character Class/Style:[/b:ed493b0c11]  Warrior, Currently Fury/Prot, willing to tank, offtank, or DPS.\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Talent Build:[/b:ed493b0c11]  Currently Fury, 8/33/10; Ten points in Prot makes me a viable tank, willing to change spec to suit FSE\'s needs.\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Gear:[/b:ed493b0c11]  Mostly blues for now, working on getting decent tanking gear and FR gear.\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]MC Attuned:[/b:ed493b0c11]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]BWL Attuned:[/b:ed493b0c11]  No\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Onyxia keyed:[/b:ed493b0c11]  No\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Sponsor:[/b:ed493b0c11]  \r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:ed493b0c11]  4:00 PM - whenever; Eastern Standard Time\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]What raid experience do you have?[/b:ed493b0c11]  None so far, just end-game instances\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:ed493b0c11]  Malice, left because their prominent members moved to another server.\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:ed493b0c11]  Tank, Off Tank, DPS: Whichever FSE needs\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:ed493b0c11]  About a year and a half\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:ed493b0c11]  Enchanting\r\n\r\nCurrently leveling a priest (Level 41 now)\r\n\r\n[b:ed493b0c11]What is your goal ingame?[/b:ed493b0c11]  To raid MC/BWL'),(2054,'7dc70f7406','Just Stopping By!!!','Hey Guys just stopping by to see how everything is going in FSE, I am doing ok but for some reason my computer wont play WoW Again? So I need to get the CD\'s and reinstall it I tried to fix it, but it said the problem was to large to fix ned to reinstall. I Guess I will talk to you guys later maybe c-ya in-game sometime :)\r\n\r\nLater \r\n\r\n-Anibus-'),(2055,'9d54790af7','','Think he\'s going to be disappointed with his in game goals not matching up with us.   Yes if he understands that we aren\'t about 40 man raids right now and still wants in.'),(2056,'1a76c0f378','','Hurry back :)'),(2057,'da097f1564','FSE r Teh Overpower!','Nice run FSE, tonight we went 12-3 in WSG.  Good showing by all, had some PUG and some SRTO but we did damn good kids.  Shows that with some orginization even peeps like us can do good in PVP.'),(2058,'f6a0c4f075','','Now that I\'ve had time to reflect (read: get sober). I\'d like to point out a few more details. \r\n\r\nWe had won 7 games in a row with only FSE players, Meshach broke the streak so we recruited a druid to roll with us named Bermuta from Aftermath I think.  Good druid helped alot.\r\n\r\nEventually we got GENERAL AMALO FROM SHAMAN R TEH UNDERWEAR to slum it with us and he brought some big boy friends (the High Warlord right now and a ex-High Warlord).  \r\n\r\nBut most of our success (11 straight wins) came with in was a core of FSE players. We were steamrolling people, even to the point that people were leaving the game!  \r\n\r\nEnded up pulling down 47k honor and a ton of rep, so once again I\'d like to say thanks and GG.\r\n\r\nPlayers who attended (From FSE):\r\nAlphatrion\r\nBaeloc \r\nCthulku\r\nDethe\r\nKraygien\r\nLorrai\r\nMeshach\r\nShabazz\r\nShayme\r\nTemblor\r\nVamprix\r\nWrell\r\nZuwani\r\n\r\n!!!\r\n\r\nGG!'),(2059,'9e8a515fcb','Onyxia PUG Monday','Hey, was cruising around the Boulderfist realm forum and noticed that there was an Onyxia PUG that is going down on Monday night.  \r\n\r\nWhile it\'s a PUG they\'re usually not that bad as they Onyxia strats are really solid right now and easy to do (so easy that I did it 2x with a warrior, and I\'ve never played a warrior!) \r\n\r\nHere\'s the strat in a nutshell:\r\n\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh1xlp3J_Q]Onyxia Strat[/url]\r\n\r\nHere\'s the link in the forums talking about getting the run together (and some guy\'s videocard):\r\n\r\n[url]http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-boulderfist&amp;t=272869&amp;p=1&amp;tmp=1#post272869[/url]\r\n\r\nSo if people are on the last stages of getting Onyxia Key (Drakefire Amulet) lets see if we cant push them through and maybe get some quick phat loot.'),(2060,'7baa4ac6b1','','Check this out:\r\n\r\n[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEafYX7Hp_A&amp;mode=related&amp;search=[/url]'),(2061,'7031f481ca','','ANother cool vid:  \r\n\r\n[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYzQOVyhRPE&amp;NR]Heros in a half shell[/url]'),(2062,'b856f81016','Craziest video ever.','You have to watch this very close it\'s hard to see.  Make sure you can hear the conversation too.\r\n\r\n[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=e47BWcM_C6M&amp;mode=related&amp;search=]Holy crap![/url]'),(2063,'3866e1492e','','Wow, 47k honor?!?! What time did you guys stop?'),(2064,'eee6c793ce','','Broke up around 1am sever time I think.'),(2065,'ab72ad8c3c','','i\'ll start taking a loolk the people i pug with and see about recruiting some'),(2066,'3978d655df','','agree, let him know we are working towards that goal, and shoot him an invite'),(2067,'e5f6c6cb34','','hmm, is it just me or did this app leave you feeling a litle cold? only plays weekends, ok i can accept that, shooting for the star though &quot;i only play weekends so .5 is the highest teir set&quot; but then again what would it hurt to give a 2 week. what the hell give em a chance'),(2068,'d2655f6768','','app is a bit shakey, lol, lots of &quot;umm&quot;s and he\'s a rogue Sardumon would have to roll against, but i like Temb\'s idea, he edits he gets 2 weeks'),(2069,'e87de70aa0','','I say two weeks, and question, you going to change your main to Sard?'),(2070,'9ad7a66949','','I say yes as long as we lay out to him what\'re really doing right now.  Trying to get people to do ZG and maybe eventually (but a long way off) doing MC.  If an officer/council sees him in game, send him a holler.'),(2071,'2e12453dde','','He understands what to expect from this guiild, hopefully wont be the kind of person to just suck off us to get .5 quest done then bail once he gets his gear upgraded.'),(2072,'fe79ae9a73','Ilpalazzo\'s Application','[b:fe79ae9a73]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:fe79ae9a73] I\'m looking for an end-game guild to join.\r\n\r\nI\'ve also grouped with a couple of your members a handful of times in Scholo/Strat, and have had a good experience when doing so.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Character Class/Style:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Warrior\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Talent Build:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  10 Arms - 31 Fury - 10 Protection\r\nThis spec is a balance between all out Arms/Fury warriors and Protection Spec Warriors.\r\n\r\nI have the same damage mitigation talents that all protection specced warriors have. The only thing preventing me from being a main tank, rather than an off-tank, is my inability to generate threat as effectively. \r\n\r\nI have most of the talents that allow warriors to do insane DPS; however, by investing into Protection I take away about 5-10% of a warrior\'s potentional DPS.\r\n\r\nIf you need me to respec, I am willing to do so.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Gear:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  -4/8 Valor along with a random assortment of blues.\r\n-Alterac Valley Epic Gear\r\n\r\n*4,479 Health Unbuffed\r\n*7,457 Armor (4,743 w/o the board) \r\n*329 Defense\r\n*128.6 DPS with my 2h (w/ Battle Shout)\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]MC Attuned:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]BWL Attuned:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  No\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Onyxia keyed:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  No\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Sponsor:[/b:fe79ae9a73]  \r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Since I\'m on school summer vacation for another week, I can play at any time at his moment. \r\n\r\nI\'m usually able to play from 6PM until about 12AM on weekdays (I live on the East Coast), and pretty much whenever I want on weekends.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]What raid experience do you have?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Not much, I\'ve been invited to ZG once before.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Legion of Hamsandwich\r\nResistance is Futile\r\nMalice\r\n\r\nAll of them, for the most part, have gone inactive.\r\nThey were also more &quot;laid back&quot; guilds rather than raiding guild. Since I want to run end-game instances, I was bound to leave them eventually.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  I am specced to be an off-tank/DPS warrior.\r\n\r\n1. Taunt the &quot;trash&quot; mobs so the squishies don\'t take aggro. This allows the main tank to focus on one mob.\r\n2. DPS the boss/mobs whenever the situation allows.\r\n3. Use warrior buffs/debuffs (Battle Shout, Demoralizing Shout, Thundering Clap) so the main tank can save his rage for threat abilities (Sunders, Revenge, Shield Bash, and Shield Slam).\r\n4. Be prepared to equip a stick and board if the main tank drops.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  A little over a year.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Enchanting/Herbalism\r\n\r\nI\'ve taken these two professions to get money for my equipmeny; however, I plan to take up Alchemy in the near future to make potions for the raid.\r\n\r\n[b:fe79ae9a73]What is your goal ingame?[/b:fe79ae9a73]  Although I don\'t want to spend 24/7 raiding, I would like to start running end-game instances a few times a week or so.'),(2073,'08d1ad85ae','','Yes, it was much fun. I made Chaze (aka: Bubble Boy) my bitch. \r\n\r\nThem Underwear boys aint half bad either. \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2074,'cb77c8d7b3','','I say yes again.  He really took some time to put detail into his application and I remember we lost our uber dps warrior....I think he had to go train his mace skill on bosses with another guild.  This guy seems understand his class FAR more just from reading his app. than &quot;other&quot; said warrior.\r\n\r\nHe needs to know we are looking to gear up and build toward 20 man raids but MC is a ways off at the moment.  He has 4/8 of his set pieces so hopefully he could fit nicely in what we\'re able to do right now.'),(2075,'4f8f50052d','','Yeah, make sure you have your Drakefire amulet with you when you go to Dustwallow.  It\'s embarassing to forget it....or so I hear.'),(2076,'cf3a0f5930','','Hmm, evidence of highschool education with a B average at least. :) Now, for the sense of humor!\r\n\r\nI vote yes. This player may actually be helpful rather than constantly require help to function.'),(2077,'e65a6e63c2','Piggy has the Conch!','Fear...the air is ripe with it. Do you possess the constitution....the depth of faith to go as far as is needed? Come then, for I would call upon the lot of you to return to Azeroth and draw your weapons with me once again. Awaken your strongest avatars and take to the field. \r\n\r\nSummer draws to a close soon, but we need no solstice or..harvest moon... to show us the time to take once more to the field! Join me again, draw your weapons, and if you tire of the fight against the Scourge, Nefarion, and the Hakkari tribe\'s high priests.......\r\n\r\n....then fight the elves with me. Fight the humans, and fight the dwarves.....but the gnomes.....\r\n\r\n......bite the gnomes. Bite them in the gulch. Right in the gulch. \r\n\r\nMy footsteps echo as I walk these halls, and my heart is sad for it. These seats at this table have been empty for too long. When I go to the rest room, the stains from my previous using of the rest room are still there. No new stains. No one\'s using the rest room of FSE anymore. They\'re going outside...or maybe something even more sinister. \r\n\r\nWe must make it again an evening activity that is considered fun by these FSE\'ian subscribers. And once our core begins crying havoc and letting the krakens loose once more, others will see us as a hot steaming pile of enthusiasm and wish to bolster our ranks to be a part of our filthy (but very sexy) party.'),(2078,'38ef6e0414','','I had a lot of fun playing battlegrounds with FSE. We handled ourselves pretty well with our strategy of keeping the alliance from progressing easily across the field while our flag running team smuggled the prize out of the Silverwing Outpost.\r\n\r\nI imagine we\'d be a hell of a force to be reckoned with after a while as more FSE players became familiar with little tricks in relation to the battlegrounds and using their class\'s traits in pvp settings. \r\n\r\nI look forward to the next time our guild works together to punish the elflings!'),(2079,'efce8e97d4','Free Action and Swiftness potions','I\'d like to purchase these from guild alchemists, and might be willing to buy some other potion types such as those that absorb frost and fire damage. \r\n\r\nI\'m a remarkably savvy flower picker, so let me know if you need some nice bouquets.'),(2080,'54d6eda246','','I had a good time playing with you guys. I look forward to more. Too bad those nasty wsg alliance teams came out late. Especially the srto arch nemesis Kneebie/Heebie.'),(2081,'9072d4d203','','I can make the greater frost and swiftness potions, just hit me up in game'),(2082,'eaa4a1ffc5','','I spoke with him for a while today, got a jist of what kind of player he is. Projects a bit of an eager personality but the overall first impression was that he\'s nice enough. Gear-wise he\'s in his &quot;Anyone wanna do Dire Maul North?&quot; and ect. stage from what I gather. \r\n\r\nYes vote.'),(2083,'919599b2f7','','Sure, why not. \r\n\r\n\r\nTwo weeks!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2084,'beadb9b8e7','','I need to do DM anyway! Two weeks.\r\n\r\nYes vote\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2085,'11303ac4b6','','Wow, that is awesome! \r\n\r\nHard to believe its so understandable, even in German.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2086,'2f7811add6','','I think my shaman can make Free Action and swift if he has the mats.  I\'ll check and see what I\'ve got.'),(2087,'a2b3adc739','ZG?','Is the a ZG run planned in the near future? I need me some raid. Need it bad.'),(2088,'3c872801f8','','Just so everyone, other than the people who make things with &quot;herbs&quot;, knows the mats are as follows:\r\n\r\n[b:3c872801f8]Free Action Potion:[/b:3c872801f8]\r\n(1) Stranglekelp\r\n(2) Blackmouth Oil -&gt; (2) Oily Blackmouth and (1) Empty Vial for each\r\n(1) Leaded Vial\r\n\r\n[b:3c872801f8]Swiftness Potion[/b:3c872801f8]\r\n(1) Swiftthistle\r\n(1) Briarthorn\r\n(1) Empty Vial\r\n\r\nI\'m sure that anyone could easily look those up on thottbot, but I thought it might be useful to post it in this thread.'),(2089,'68c9ceb1a6','','I think that the next planned run of ZG is Wednesday at 7:00 pm server time, but I could be wrong. Nevertheless, you should still come out at that time and have fun!'),(2090,'5bdce7ff44','','A few of us matched up in a game tonight with a few of these members.. http://www.colossusguild.com/roster.php\r\n\r\n\r\nWe came out Victorious. Great job those in the raid.'),(2091,'df71f0d7f5','','Invited this guy on August 21st.'),(2092,'59e1fcb34e','','Invited this one on August 21st.'),(2198,'66c04a2184','','I dont think that if we\'re pugging it that we should have to spend our DKP on a item if we win it vs a person who could be running with us the first time ever getting a item because of a roll.\r\n\r\nI have no problem with the run being a DKP run if it\'s all FSE.  I just dont think that it\'s right to have to spend points on an item (points basically being time invested previously) vs someone who just joined us for one run because we were spamming LFG and has an equal shot at an item.'),(2199,'5338e5ffdb','','app is week, but then again, how do we know unless we run with and get an evaluation.  i say give a 2 week trial to see how he meshes'),(2200,'1310803973','','Nice gear.\r\nWas in some big boy guilds.\r\n\r\nI like it.\r\n\r\n\r\ntwo weeks.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2201,'99ad614bb3','','perhaps i did not explain the dkp system that well... And if people dont like it we wont use it.... How it works is if 5 people have need for an item 4 guildies and 1 pug they all roll if the pug wins he gets it if a guildy wins the roll, fse then uses dkp where all our guildies that have a need for it uses dkp against each other. So the more guildies you have at the raid the more pure of a dkp system it is... Obviously if you win the roll and no other guildies need it except you you can have it for 0 or 1 dkp however we normally determine that. I believe this will do two things it will encourage our guildies to come to start earning dkp again and the more we have the more chances we will have to win the rolls and use the dkp that we have earned in the past. Obviously the pugs dont use dkp because they are helping us while we have holes in our ranks and they only get one roll at winning it where we get many depending on how many guildies we have.....If you still do not like this concept let  me know before wed and we wont use dkp at all'),(2202,'4ea498a103','','Correction: the date should be 9/13, not 6/13 ;P'),(2203,'8d9eb2bbfb','','I need more access too.'),(2204,'85691c9217','','ill go naked :).  since im still naked with nothing yet, no word from the wonderful and all powerful blizz.'),(2205,'444afd6995','','Count me in.'),(2206,'ae7b9939f7','','This might be the first application I\'ve seen that mentions a desire to help, rather than be helped.:)\r\n\r\nI\'ll go shut down the trash compacters on the detention level.'),(2207,'cd9902b6f3','','As far as spending DKP, I think it does a couple of things.  It encourages MORE of our guild to come since they get to earn and spend their DKP which is useless if we don\'t raid.   And like Meshach said, the more guildies that show up, the more of a pure DKP run it becomes and the greater the odds of an item being DKP-ed instead of a random pugger winning it.\r\n\r\nI think guildies who DO go should be rewarded for going.  I think that those who want to do ZG will quickly not want to go after a few runs if they don\'t get any loot and aren\'t gaining any DKP either.\r\n\r\nI can see where it might suck to roll that 99 and &quot;win&quot; the item only to be outbid by someone in guild willing to pay more DKP but it\'s making the guild better and the &quot;loser&quot; in the dkp bid is still getting dkp for the run...I dunno\r\n\r\nThe pugs are doing us a service by coming.  Lets face it, no puggers at this point in time means no runs.  We obviously can\'t make them do DKP or we\'ll have none of them show up.\r\n\r\nI don\'t see how the partial DKP system A) hurts us or B) discourages the pugs.   But keep talking at me and maybe I\'ll see the other side.'),(2208,'256c6b7505','','He\'s level 18.  Either we say re-app when he\'s higher or take him and see if he grows up and fits in.  I don\'t see a problem with the 2nd possibility except if he\'s super annoying but Baeloc will drop the hammer if that\'s the case :)'),(2210,'1ac7911654','','I will be there with Shayme or Fantus, whatever we need.'),(2211,'9b36bced75','fatcow\'s Application','[b:9b36bced75]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:9b36bced75] need a casual raiding guild\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Character Class/Style:[/b:9b36bced75]  shaman enhancement melee damage\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Talent Build:[/b:9b36bced75]  0-31-20 \r\ngood melee damage but casts are slow, but shocks are great\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Gear:[/b:9b36bced75]  pvp set 1 except helm n shoulders hopin to get em next week\r\n\r\nTUF\r\n\r\ngot good epic healing gear\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]MC Attuned:[/b:9b36bced75]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]BWL Attuned:[/b:9b36bced75]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Onyxia keyed:[/b:9b36bced75]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Sponsor:[/b:9b36bced75]  no\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:9b36bced75]  4:00pm + server time- till w/e\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]What raid experience do you have?[/b:9b36bced75]  full MC zg aq20 ony\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:9b36bced75]  hel disbanned\r\nretaliation too many quiters\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:9b36bced75]  DPS but will heal when needed\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:9b36bced75]  since the day it came out... seriously\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:9b36bced75]  my prfessions were hacked and erased.... i got a hutnerwith 290alch\r\n\r\n[b:9b36bced75]What is your goal ingame?[/b:9b36bced75]  fun n friends n gear'),(2212,'6fab6a4802','Spongeboby\'s Application','[b:6fab6a4802]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:6fab6a4802] i want a new guild\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Character Class/Style:[/b:6fab6a4802]  i use swords. i like using slice and dice to increase my speed while sometimes using blade fury with it so i go alot fast. sometimes i do stun lock.\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Talent Build:[/b:6fab6a4802]  right now i am 15/36/0\r\nall my talents are to extra damage / crit  / dodge\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Gear:[/b:6fab6a4802]  i am in all Rare items accept my darn gloves, which are fairly good but i hope to get better ones soon.\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]MC Attuned:[/b:6fab6a4802]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]BWL Attuned:[/b:6fab6a4802]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Onyxia keyed:[/b:6fab6a4802]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Sponsor:[/b:6fab6a4802]  no one\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:6fab6a4802]  server time is my time, playtimes are usually 5:30-9:00 server time and on weekends usually all weekend \r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]What raid experience do you have?[/b:6fab6a4802]  MC = Cleared\r\nZG = Cleared\r\nAQ20 =all but ossirian\r\nBWL = 2 Bosses\r\nAQ40 = first boss\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:6fab6a4802]  just the ones me and my friend created bassicaly, \r\nSpirit of the Horde , Skulls\r\n\r\nleft cause all we got were alts in both guilds , so we both decided to forget it and just farm\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:6fab6a4802]  i feel i am the speed damage\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:6fab6a4802]  2 weeks after it came out\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:6fab6a4802]  i am 300 enchanting (crusader , 15/25agi , 22 spirit\r\n15 strength , bunch of others) and 300 miner\r\n\r\ni have a total of 2 other 60s, just not on this server :(\r\n\r\n[b:6fab6a4802]What is your goal ingame?[/b:6fab6a4802]  EPICS!!!!'),(2213,'8dac52678c','','I like this guy\'s app.  It\'s better than &quot;I go alot fast&quot; and EPICS from the other one.  Although I don\'t understand how his &quot;shocks are great&quot; when he has no points into the talents that help his shocks.\r\nYes vote I guess'),(2214,'71247b234b','Tazmaniandev\'s Application','[b:71247b234b]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:71247b234b] seems to be a professional guild that has some of the things im looking for.  saw they needed dps players in general chat and became interested.\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Character Class/Style:[/b:71247b234b]  warrior/tauren\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Talent Build:[/b:71247b234b]  35 arms, the rest in fury, willing to respec, but would like to stay arms if at all possible.\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Gear:[/b:71247b234b]  epic mount, lionheart helm, valor shoulders, bracers, gloves, crafted for myself darksoul set. leg shoulders chest, arcanite reaper, all pvp gear up to stone gaurd.\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]MC Attuned:[/b:71247b234b]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]BWL Attuned:[/b:71247b234b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Onyxia keyed:[/b:71247b234b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Sponsor:[/b:71247b234b]  \r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:71247b234b]  central time zone, evenings and nights\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]What raid experience do you have?[/b:71247b234b]  ZG\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:71247b234b]  many, but most recently FTW and i stopped playing for about a month and now im looking for new guild\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:71247b234b]  dps warrior or if needed i could be a tank,, but rather be arms.\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:71247b234b]  2 years  ish\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:71247b234b]  300 blacksmith\r\n\r\n[b:71247b234b]What is your goal ingame?[/b:71247b234b]  fun'),(2215,'e0f1d464ae','','Ok, stop warriors.  Yes vote but we have a lot of these guys.'),(2216,'1c955dfcbc','Re: Spongeboby\'s Application','[quote:1c955dfcbc=\"Anonymous\"][/b]  EPICS!!!![/quote:1c955dfcbc]\r\n\r\nNo.'),(2217,'27003aa7a9','','jatus who is your toon ?'),(2218,'6652426f52','','I am so glad to see peeps ready to get back in ZG.  But for the loot system I believe if we have to pug any of the group it should be straight need/greed.  A few reasons   First   Speed  dkp is slow as hell for this  group  :)  and i wouldnt want to make anyone puggin it to wait for loot they didnt win.  Second   Let\'s not worry about the loot let\'s just go and have fun and who win the phat lootz gets a bonus.  I am about gettin back in there and i wouldnt want to screw with our base dkp system at all so that when we get back solid raiding its there to benefit those who had worked hard to have their points to spend as they see fit\r\n\r\n  \r\n\r\nJust my 2 pennies'),(2219,'04ca677035','','No vote from me.'),(2220,'b848d76802','','Yes vote.'),(2221,'4669743822','','[quote:4669743822] jatus who is your toon ? [/quote:4669743822]\r\n\r\nJatus Level 60 Gnome Warlock\r\nJaytus Level 60 Gnome Rogue\r\n\r\n :lol:'),(2222,'5ee4188ce6','','Yes, if a officer/council sees him on get him in and explain the 2 week trial.'),(2223,'9d9cadddaf','','Need more access!!!  :shock:'),(2224,'435f935310','','done veine and meshach'),(2225,'c59ef8be2e','','I\'m definitely up for that... As long as Blizzard unlocks my account... \r\n\r\nThey\'ve had it closed for over a week because I lost some gold. -_-'),(2226,'61c95e854e','','More than a  week later, account still frozen.\r\n\r\nThey haven\'t bothered to return my emails either.\r\n\r\n/sigh'),(2227,'5771306b3e','','Ugh... Priests got completely screwed over by Blizzard... \r\n\r\nSo much for my priest alt. Time to roll a shammy I guess...'),(2228,'1861a3cd3a','','im in and i agree with uda.  if nothing else dkp will be slow and it would suck if our pug members got fed up and quit on us just for that reason.'),(2229,'1a6c32329b','','even though he &quot;feels he is the speed damage&quot; i vote no'),(2230,'885ed391f3','','yes, i too like his aplicaiton for somereason'),(2231,'0c5ee22633','','Looks ok, I say yes'),(2232,'6430181559','','[quote=&quot;Udazhi&quot;]done veine and meshach[/quote]\r\n\r\nMeanie.  :( \r\n\r\nI\'m only here to help...'),(2233,'db5a28c4ab','','No vote. This kid\'s absolutely irritating.'),(2234,'4229e3ddd6','','What is your in-game character name? fatcow\r\n\r\nWhat is your Age? 16'),(2235,'aa05134475','ZG Thursday 9/14 6:30pm','Bat wack action, be there.'),(2236,'30dbc5e7de','ihopeuliv\'s Application','[b:30dbc5e7de]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:30dbc5e7de] I would like to join a team. I have found that the guilds I have been joining dont work together as much as they should. I like to do instences with a group of people I can trust. I dont wanna LFG anymore ,,,,,,,, lol. I know i dont have much exp raiding but i plan to get that exp soon, hopefully with FSE.\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Character Class/Style:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  troll rogue   54\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Talent Build:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  Have cold blood and vigor wanna respec to get rid of vigor cuz i hate it gonna go duel wielding spec in combat. I also have some points in sublty to prevent stealth detection and speed my movement stealth. Im also thinkin about goin hemo spec.\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Gear:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  devilsaur set legs/pants. I have the scarlet kriss even though i cant use it till 58. It has 15 agility on it just waiting for me! lol. I have about 3800 hit points with no buffs to good stamina gear.\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]MC Attuned:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  No\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]BWL Attuned:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  No\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Onyxia keyed:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  No\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Sponsor:[/b:30dbc5e7de]  \r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  I play after i get out of work at 11pm eastern time zone. On Sat i log on about 3pm eastern. Sun i play all day and night. \r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]What raid experience do you have?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  I dont have much raid exp this will be my first 60. However i do los of BGs and I would really like to make it into an end game guild like this that take the game seriously.\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  im in night stalkers my only guild really. i would leave this guild because there are not enough players on regularly that run instences as much as i do. \r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  DPS. I do major DPS highest crit 1533 at lvl 53. What can I say I love to kill!\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  only six short months\r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  herb alch ench...i have played every class to AT LEAST 20. i have many alts i play...the next class i plan to take all the way is my holly priest. \r\n\r\n[b:30dbc5e7de]What is your goal ingame?[/b:30dbc5e7de]  When i log my goal is generally to find a tank. I have a hard time finding tanks on this server and I\'m always running ST or BRD.'),(2237,'3c4dfd14e7','','weak app on many levels  very strong in many others\r\n\r\n\r\nWeak Class for FSE  \r\n\r\nGive him 2 weeks is what i say'),(2238,'de375d7618','','The grammatical stuff I can overlook.  At least there\'s some THOUGHT into it.  Meshach can\'t spell either and he\'s a smart guy :)\r\n\r\nI say yes cause we need rogues and he\'s not 15 I don\'t think.'),(2239,'2fcb6c458d','','Any more feelings on last nights run with him? If he is not a good match, we need to know. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2240,'58908c57af','','I like it. This dude thought about what he said before he said it!! Hell I don\'t baelocsucks even do that!!\r\n\r\nYes vote, two weeks.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2241,'bb90835bcf','AQ and Intrest?','AQ is probably for me one of the dungeons I am most interested in running I have downed the second boss 4 times now so i have experience with that fight (and if we get by that boss the rest of the bosses are quick to get to and fun)... I believe FSE as it curently stands would strugle with it unless we can get our members to friendly with CC. So in the upcomming weeks as we get more members I would love to see us down kurinexx as many times as possible 1 for the rep, 2 for the items 3 for the experience. And if others would like to be running AQ as well encourage eachother to head to silithus and grind some rep. I made a fortune doing it and had a lot of fun. I would like to know what players are at friendly with cc and what interest we have in running that dungeon. if people want advice on how to grind rep the fast, or make good cash msg me and i will let you know my strats.'),(2242,'f0c90d1a63','','Hahah,\r\nGlad to see you sooo interested in FSE Jatus. You know more about us that we know about you...\r\n\r\nSo lets have it, tell us about Jatus. The Gnome, the Myth, the Legend.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2243,'215adda63a','','Good idea Mesh. I just dinged friendly with CC a little while ago. I also made good money doing so. Seems people are looking for raids again in FSE. Summer time has always been an FSE raid killer. \r\n\r\nLets do it!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2244,'088db24f57','','I dont think he is that bad.  He was a little chatty, but i think that is just him trying too hard to fit in.  He over did it a bit by not trying to seem like a dumbass, by acting like a dumbass.  He was eager to show us that he knows some of the instance, and how far his knowledge is.  Unfortunitly he showed us that it is not complete.   I think he will realize that we are not a bunch of 12 year olds, adn that we have been to a few places before, and he may realize he can actually learn a little from every one.  I know I learn new stuff about the game all the time.  I say to give him a fair chance and let him settle down a little and all will be good.'),(2245,'2f9a5d2a30','I need help killing val.','I need a guild run for this one I am afraid.  i have tried unsuccesfully to kill val in a pug, but he is a tuff sob.  I would like to appeal to the guild for help scheduling a ubrs run to val.  I think there are a few more who need him too, and if anyone has a strat that would be swell.'),(2246,'689a794099','','I\'m friendly or honored and I would be interested in killing Kurinax and having fun trying the event.  We need the practice.  The other bosses I\'ve done when we cleared it seemed pretty straightforward if people listen.  And there\'s minimal mobs between bosses!'),(2247,'8afdd627c7','','I\'m in DonBarbie!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2248,'7e9ab209ad','','I\'m at friendly with Dreadwind. I\'d like to do AQ 20 also,, since I\'ve seen so little of it.'),(2249,'d142746114','','Im up for AQ but I havent even started CC rep yet'),(2250,'979beebe5b','Loogey\'s Application','[b:979beebe5b]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:979beebe5b] Fse sounds like a good guild. Members are very nice and courteous. Hopefully we can run and complete Naxx\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Character Class/Style:[/b:979beebe5b]  Lvl 53 Troll Rogue\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Talent Build:[/b:979beebe5b]  29 Points in Assassination \r\n15 Points in Combat\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Gear:[/b:979beebe5b]  Helm of fire\r\nDeepfury bracers\r\nJang thraze the protector\r\nShadowcraft belt\r\nWIrts third leg\r\nBlackstone ring\r\nALbino crocscale boots\r\nTripprunner dungress\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]MC Attuned:[/b:979beebe5b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]BWL Attuned:[/b:979beebe5b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Onyxia keyed:[/b:979beebe5b]  No\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Sponsor:[/b:979beebe5b]  \r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:979beebe5b]  4PM - 8 PM Pacific standard time\r\nwill extend gametime if needed\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]What raid experience do you have?[/b:979beebe5b]  none.\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:979beebe5b]  Darkfriends. Just didnt feel it\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:979beebe5b]  Main dps in raid group\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:979beebe5b]  4 Months\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:979beebe5b]  Enchanting and Tailoring\r\n\r\n[b:979beebe5b]What is your goal ingame?[/b:979beebe5b]  Sucessfully down Naxx with a good guild'),(2251,'9fc8360340','Tetsuo\'s Application','[b:9fc8360340]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:9fc8360340] FSE sounds like the guild for me\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Character Class/Style:[/b:9fc8360340]  Undead rogue double dagger\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Talent Build:[/b:9fc8360340]  I have a backstab build good damage and downfall is i run out of energy fast\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Gear:[/b:9fc8360340]  i have blood guard boots and gloves,belt of preserved heads,cadavorous leggings,seal of the gurubashi beserker,don julios band, blackhands breadth, royal seal of eldre\'thalas,the lobotomizer, thunderwood poker,darkmantle bracers,tombstone breastplate, frostwolf cloak, wyrmtongue shoulders, felhide cap and frostwolf necklace, and the full volcanic set and onyxia necklace and wildfire cape for FR gear.\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]MC Attuned:[/b:9fc8360340]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]BWL Attuned:[/b:9fc8360340]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Onyxia keyed:[/b:9fc8360340]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Sponsor:[/b:9fc8360340]  \r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:9fc8360340]  i Play from 3pm to 1 am\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]What raid experience do you have?[/b:9fc8360340]  Iam experienced from Zg all the way to BWL clear\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:9fc8360340]  Exodus.. sick of pvping\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:9fc8360340]  I fill the roll of dps as dagger rogue\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:9fc8360340]  i have played wow since it came out\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:9fc8360340]  I have 300 alchemy for potions and 300 herbs\r\n\r\n[b:9fc8360340]What is your goal ingame?[/b:9fc8360340]  I hope to get full tier 2 someday'),(2252,'4bb02e14d9','','This is just funny.   What is Meshach yelling in LFG to get this guy! Dare to dream! NEVER GIVE UP!'),(2253,'8af7649b80','','Hahahhahahahahahhahahaa\r\n\r\nHeheheheheheheheheeee\r\n\r\nLolololololololololll\r\n\r\nlawl\r\n\r\n\r\nOh my effin god\r\n\r\nI appreciate this  oh how i appreciate this'),(2254,'89c10f58fe','Lazerjared\'s Application','[b:89c10f58fe]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:89c10f58fe] Want to join a good PVE guild that runs a good amount of raids\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Character Class/Style:[/b:89c10f58fe]  Hunter/dps\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Talent Build:[/b:89c10f58fe]  0/21/30, good all around, great kiting and dps\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Gear:[/b:89c10f58fe]  4/6 champion pursuance, 2/8 beastalker, defilers girdle, don julios band, trinkets-2%crit and +48 attack pwr. frost leigh back\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]MC Attuned:[/b:89c10f58fe]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]BWL Attuned:[/b:89c10f58fe]  No\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Onyxia keyed:[/b:89c10f58fe]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Sponsor:[/b:89c10f58fe]  \r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:89c10f58fe]  5pm-2am-ish\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]What raid experience do you have?[/b:89c10f58fe]  Zg, Aq20, some MC, \r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:89c10f58fe]  Exodus-left beacuse want to start pve\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:89c10f58fe]  I can provide great attendance, get along with players well, provide massive dps\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:89c10f58fe]  may 06\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:89c10f58fe]  Mining 300, enchantin 15 lol\r\n\r\n[b:89c10f58fe]What is your goal ingame?[/b:89c10f58fe]  BWL as of now, MC for hunter leaf!'),(2255,'ded0cbd1f3','','I almost chose &quot;Lazer James&quot; as my name, but it was taken. So I went to my transformers style names. Thus was born Alphatrion. But a part of me will always miss Lazer James.'),(2256,'69e9abeae0','','A 53 rogue that downed Naxx? I wonder what his main\'s name is.'),(2257,'3b5361277b','Bykilo\'s Application','[b:3b5361277b]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:3b5361277b] because i need an endgame guild so hopefully this is the guild for me\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Character Class/Style:[/b:3b5361277b]  Warrior/DPS/Offtank\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Talent Build:[/b:3b5361277b]  300/alchemy and herbs\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Gear:[/b:3b5361277b]  valors uprgrading to heroism soon got a couple vindicators   \r\n \r\nhalberd of smithing - DPS\r\nfrostbite/dranconian deflector- Tanking\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]MC Attuned:[/b:3b5361277b]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]BWL Attuned:[/b:3b5361277b]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Onyxia keyed:[/b:3b5361277b]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Sponsor:[/b:3b5361277b]  \r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:3b5361277b]  4pm server time till whenever\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]What raid experience do you have?[/b:3b5361277b]  Molten Core\r\nAQ20\r\nZG\r\nOnyxia\r\nnever been to BWL\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:3b5361277b]  my past raids are all PUGS\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:3b5361277b]  i can offtank or DPS\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:3b5361277b]  1year\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:3b5361277b]  i got a mage still on leveling stage\r\n\r\n[b:3b5361277b]What is your goal ingame?[/b:3b5361277b]  get my main epixed out'),(2258,'bc0c052656','','bwl as of now   mc for  leaf   ...........\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nuggggh'),(2259,'77bc8aa0c0','','Lewt ho\'s  all we get is lewt ho\'s'),(2260,'4be84911ec','','Personally I like some of these guys I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting epics I know we all do and that is why we do 20 mans, (and the reason we want epics is to get better gear to see more endgame content and make the runs we are doing easier and more fun) I would like to see us give some of these guys a chance. My personal goal for the past few months was to become exalted with cc and get my set of unending life...(obviously this may have sounded shallow to people but at least i had a focus and an endgame) I dont expect to be best friends with everyone we bring into the guild but I do want a group of guys that are nice non annoying and fun to play with. You guys can do what you want with voting but I wanted to put my prospective in as well. I have much respect for you all, and consider you my friends I just want to see FSE thrive.\r\nI know you guys are doing your best to find the right people to move fse forward but i dont think the desire for epics should be a label that is negative I think it is all our desire to some degree\r\n(stepping off soap box)'),(2261,'50beb16da8','','I agree completely Shach  we all play on some level for Loot.  But when its all someone is giving us for a game goal and not much else , I mean hell man if one more 50-55 lvl rogue says their role is top chart dps and get epix i am gonna throw up.  SOme of the core founders had a great chance to only play for loot.  Etheral ???? Used to be acsension and Shabby was a signer of the charter... Uda, Rathas, Mase, Gnome, Moma  all where starting memebers they where in Naxx.  We have seen what only loot as a goal gets you so we reformed FSE.  Shach i don\'t believe for a moment as you pushed for CC rep that loot was your main goal,  to have fun i bet was much higher, I for one fully support your efforts to grow FSE and will do my part to aid you in anyway but you are gonna have to let me bitch and complain as it changes and understand that I am open to offer up 2 weeks freely if when peeps are brought in they are explained that its 2 weeks and its causal and to have fun and if they arent down with that   WE GOT 2 WORDZ FOR You..... sorry i digress\r\n\r\nYou can grind for loot.....\r\nYou cant grind for fun with friends......\r\n\r\n\r\nJust my 2 pennies'),(2262,'bd98a0dc70','','I agree with you completley and obviously that is why I am in the guild...I just dont want to turn away quality people because they dont have the desire to really think through an App. I dont think you guys will ever let your guild go in a direction that is not fun first based, and if people dont belong in the guild I would hope that you would remove them (which I am sure you have done in the past). I just want to see people get a chance to be apart of a guild such as ours even if they right down epics(I personally would think to have fun and make friends would be a given). Thanks for responding to my post and letting me know where your thoughts on this lie. I enjoy being a part of this with you and think your two week idea with promoting our philosiphy is a great idea.'),(2263,'bbe22abe7e','','[quote:bbe22abe7e]Hahah,\r\nGlad to see you sooo interested in FSE Jatus. You know more about us that we know about you...\r\n\r\nSo lets have it, tell us about Jatus. The Gnome, the Myth, the Legend.\r\n\r\n\r\nz[/quote:bbe22abe7e]\r\n\r\nHey hey. Sorry I took so long to answer to this, my router got zapped during a thunderstorm and it was just replaced.\r\n\r\nI will tell you my story, although I will forget a lot of parts as it\'s been such a long time since I\'ve played.\r\n\r\n*Clears throat*\r\n\r\n[b:bbe22abe7e]Jatus\' Story - Part 1[/b:bbe22abe7e]\r\n\r\nIt all started on the 21st of December, 2004. I had been a Star Wars Galaxies fan before I started playing WoW. Infact, I hated the game from the rumors that I had heard.\r\n\r\nI went to a lan party on the 20th, which is when I actually got to see the game with my own eyes. I was amazed. Evidently, I went and picked up my own copy the next day.\r\n\r\nI opened up the game and was overcome with joy. I made a gnome warlock to represent my cynical evil side, and just because I knew gnomes would be, at the time, a minority. Clicking the randomize button I got the name &quot;Jatus&quot;.\r\n\r\nI adepted quickly to the game and learned my way around things by myself. Things started to get interesting, however, while I was doing my succubus quest (I was level  21).\r\n\r\nAs I was walking into the barrens to finish up the quest, being the noob that I was, I yelled in general chat &quot;OMG ALLIANCE, NORTHERN BARRENS!&quot; (I thought that horde could hear me in general chat...) Of course I only got laughs from other alliance. One person however, by the name of Howlie (Also level 21) whispered me and we chatted for a while. He invited me into his guild, The Hostile Crew. T\'was my first guild.\r\n\r\nI immediatly got to know everyone in the guild, it was a small one admittedly but we were very close and loved to tell stories and just screw around. This lasted for a long time, until I got to about level 40...\r\n\r\nHowlie hadn\'t been online for a few weeks. People were starting to ask questions. Where was the guild master? Another week passed.  Still no Howlie. When I was around level 45, however, he randomly logged in. By this time... I was the only left in the guild with a few alts... everyone had left, seeking bigger better opportunities.\r\n\r\nI was overjoyed that he had come back to save the day... but before I could tell him about everything that happened, he disbanded the guild. I was stunned, lost. After regaining control, I tried to whisper him and ask what was going on. He had me on ignore. A few more minutes passed and he logged off. That was the last I ever saw of him, or anyone from The Hostile Crew. All my friends, everyone that I had shared those wonderful first experiences with, gone. Although it is only a game I was truly sad.\r\n\r\nNot knowing what to do, I decided that maybe it was best I started looking for a new guild, too. So I joined The Blackened Syndicate. That lasted for about a day, then I left. It just wasn\'t the same. This is also how I met Kadeone, \'cause after I left he wouldn\'t stop whispering me and calling me a traitor.\r\n\r\nNot knowing where else to go, I turned to the Boulderfist Forums.\r\n\r\n(End of Part 1)'),(2264,'ac82e071a0','','[b:ac82e071a0]Jatus\' Story - Part 2[/b:ac82e071a0]\r\n\r\nBeing the social gnome that I am, I once again befriended the BoulderFist forum trolls. Mostly, however, the Bored At Work crew (Zie, WeaselJones, Amath, MorningGlory and myself).\r\n\r\nIt was great. Leveling to 60 was still a little lonesome but I would troll the forums and chat on xfire all the while for some company. A famous thread from that time would be the Kumlain thread, which he swore to never let fall off the boards and keep it bumped forever. This lasted 30 pages, until the creator of the thread demanded a large sum of gold. The gold was never given to him and he deleted the thread.\r\n\r\nWhen I hit 60 I joined Dragon Knights. I got in easily because back then, the warlock population on BoulderFist varied around 10 to 20. I don\'t think anyone had gotten past Gehennas at the time, and we were on Magmadar as I recall so it was quite an &quot;advanced&quot; guild. I was in there for a long time... I made a lot of friends there, too, and they even helped with my epic mount. I left however. I didn\'t want to, but all the horde on the forums were pressing me to do it because they all hated DK. &quot;You don\'t know what it\'s doing to me, liking someone in DK&quot;, &quot;How can you even associate yourself with people that low?&quot;, &quot;You shouldn\'t stoop down to their level, you\'re better than that.&quot; etc. etc. So I left, I felt bad about about... it was the wrong decision but I was influenced by the masses.\r\n\r\nOther trolls from that time - Stabby, Lao, Kumlain, Chopstx, Silverose, Pele, Zaite, Cheyne,  Switchfoot, Splat, Kadeone, Jrix, Rolli, Zie, WeaselJones, Amath, Morninglory.\r\n\r\nThere\'s not much to say anymore about the forums, really, all just a big generalization... I guess, there was the Church of Jatus, and Jatus\'s Minions (All by Cheyne). People come and go, as always, and now there is almost a completely new retarded generation of trolls. I wrote a few stories to keep the masses entertained... but that\'s about it...\r\n\r\nAnyways, back to the game...\r\n\r\nAfter leaving Dragon Knights I found myself in a little bit of a pinch again. I took this opportunity to make my own guild, a small one like The Hostile Crew! I thought it would be easy to get members with my status on the forums.... Boy was I wrong.\r\n\r\nMy first guild, &quot;Winters Chill&quot;, was very unsuccesfull... it never met the standards I wanted it to, I was too focused on the past and not on the now. This, however, is how I met Toki: my next big &quot;event&quot; in WoW.\r\n\r\nI recruited him from (surprisingly) The Blackened Syndicate. He was level 44 at the time, and I had a tough time holding on to him the guild because he kept leaving and comming back. All the other members hated him, I did too, I was just a little more tolerant but I didn\'t want to kick him as he was one of the highest level members in the guild. He was also the downfall of my guild. Everyone left because I refused to get rid of him.\r\n\r\nToki, not seeing this as a problem and now seeing me as a friend and father thought that we should make our own guild and try again. So we did. Aaaand the same thing happened, actually, nothing happened. It just died.\r\n\r\nTry try again. We made another guild, but this time it was a 50 - 60 only guild. We got 13 members... then fell apart. Again. Toki wanted to try AGAIN but I was just sick of it and said no. This started the guild hopping stage.\r\n\r\nBecause he was so indecisive, he jumped from guild to guild to guild to guild... I had nowhere else to go, I didn\'t know any good guilds and DK wouldn\'t let me back in. That\'s why I followed him from guild to guild to guild to guild. Bad choice. The two of us were blacklisted pretty fast, although I managed to re-coop solely from my forum status. Soon after this event I took the advantage of Lent to let go of WoW, and I stopped playing for 40 days. I stopped talking to everyone from WoW for 40 days. I was cut off completely.\r\n\r\n(End of Part 2)'),(2265,'21cf548577','','[b:21cf548577]Jatus\' Story - Part 3[/b:21cf548577]\r\n\r\nThe 40 days ended and I was oh so happy to get back on WoW and see how everyone was doing.  The thing is, everything had changed! All of my buddies had ditched me, AGAIN. Infact, the person I ended up turning to in the end was Mippy, whom I had only met once in a BRD run.\r\n\r\nHe invited me to a guild called Purged, originally a raid team from The Brotherhood called &quot;Team Jump Check&quot;. The raid grew so succesfull however that they broke off and started on their own. Anyways...\r\n\r\nThese were the only true end-game days of my time, and by now people had Nefarion on farm status and were already half way through AQ. Things advanced slowly, I wasn\'t well known anymore... just your average joe.\r\n\r\nIt almost seemed like all of BoulderFist has changed... the once friendly, happy go-lucky environment had turned into total anarchy. Everyone suspected everyone of god knows what and there was so little trust or friendship. Purged was my only refuge.\r\n\r\nAfter a while though, about half way through my summer vacation I had a revolution. It has to do with love and such so I won\'t get too much into detail, but I quit WoW after realizing how much it was hurting me.\r\n\r\nThat concludes Jatus in a nutshell. Not as thrilling as you thought, I know, but hey, I am but a simple gnome leading a simple life. Come to think of it, I left out a lot of interesting juicy details. Ah well, too lazy to go back and put them in.\r\n\r\nSo here I am! At your service, I know a lot about end-game experience and can give you guys tips and pointers, help you with talent builds, or just sit around for your entertainement.\r\n\r\nJatus, over and out.'),(2266,'665783f75a','Grokokain\'s Application','[b:665783f75a]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:665783f75a] Good end game guild., take game seriously and want quality fellow guilders.\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Character Class/Style:[/b:665783f75a]  Warrior\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Talent Build:[/b:665783f75a]  right now Arms (Moratla Strike build) but willing to respec to what ever needed.\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Gear:[/b:665783f75a]  Have 4 of my valor so far, constanly running to get more, Have some good tanking gear: Stockade Pauldrens, and Skullflame shield. \r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]MC Attuned:[/b:665783f75a]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]BWL Attuned:[/b:665783f75a]  No\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Onyxia keyed:[/b:665783f75a]  No\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Sponsor:[/b:665783f75a]  \r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:665783f75a]  Weekdays:6:00 - 1:00\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]What raid experience do you have?[/b:665783f75a]  I have run ZG , but very excited to start more.\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:665783f75a]  Rockem Sockem Robots, they werent taking end game seriuosly and not running enough.\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:665783f75a]  Either Tank or DPS warrior.\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:665783f75a]  About a year\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:665783f75a]  none, builing up alchemy soon and have 300 first aid\r\n\r\n[b:665783f75a]What is your goal ingame?[/b:665783f75a]  Have fun give me something to do'),(2267,'fd5be00423','','Jatus I enjoyed your wow life story. For some reason I found it interesting. Maybe because I recognized your name from trolling on the BF forums. I noticed some random posts on FSE forums awhile back and wondered if it was you.\r\n\r\nThe question I have is how does an alliance character such as yourself find your way to the forum of a small horde guild? Tell us that story please.\r\n\r\nFSE is where I got my start and I know some IRL, so I keep up on whats going on even though my days are spent in SRTO killing you guys :)\r\n\r\nAmalo'),(2268,'76e3ecb202','','Jatus,\r\nI too enjoyed your story. Thanks for taking the time. I didn’t know what to expect when I asked to know a little about you, I also was not sure if this was “The” Jatus. I am, however convinced, it is.\r\n\r\nI know from reading your story that you suck at guild recruiting  :mrgreen: . That being said, FSE is looking to bolster its ranks with intelligent players that don’t like to flood /gchat with useless drabble, sixth grade nonsense and over all pointlessness. Mostly, I think we are looking for team players, ones who ask how can I help, not can you help me. Any suggestions on where to look or what to change on the app?  \r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2269,'61e45202bf','','Wednesday are a no go for Vicca.  Yeah Vicca who, right!!!  I seen you guys were in ZG the other night and I was excited to see that.  \r\n\r\nAny day but Wednesdays are good for me.'),(2270,'3ffeb762e2','Dontgetshot\'s Application','[b:3ffeb762e2]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:3ffeb762e2] Looking for an up and comming guild so i can help out and get you guys into MC and maybe to BWL!\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Character Class/Style:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Hunter / Ranged? :)\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Talent Build:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  5/31/15\r\n\r\nTerrible Melee, good trapping skills, good dps for raids.\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Gear:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  http://ctprofiles.net/2266281\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]MC Attuned:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]BWL Attuned:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Onyxia keyed:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Sponsor:[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Fatcow :))))\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Eastern Standard (U.S.)\r\n\r\nWeekdays - 4(30) pm till 10 pm\r\n\r\nWeekends - 9(30) AM till Whenver.\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]What raid experience do you have?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  MC/BWL/ZG/AQ20/AQ40/Ony\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Clothing Optional - Booted for sleeping during MC\r\nExodus - Left due to lack of interest in pvp\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  I sit back and shoot and assist other hunters and rogues with trueshot aura\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  since release\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  Skinning (no)\r\n\r\n[b:3ffeb762e2]What is your goal ingame?[/b:3ffeb762e2]  To get teir 1... im such a whore'),(2271,'d7ec2d5e2a','','I spoke with him in game, and he came across pretty nice and quite goofy. I\'ll vote yes.'),(2272,'5c193415b5','','[quote:5c193415b5]Jatus,\r\nI too enjoyed your story. Thanks for taking the time. I didn’t know what to expect when I asked to know a little about you, I also was not sure if this was “The” Jatus. I am, however convinced, it is.\r\n\r\nI know from reading your story that you suck at guild recruiting  :mrgreen: . That being said, FSE is looking to bolster its ranks with intelligent players that don’t like to flood /gchat with useless drabble, sixth grade nonsense and over all pointlessness. Mostly, I think we are looking for team players, ones who ask how can I help, not can you help me. Any suggestions on where to look or what to change on the app?  \r\n\r\n\r\nz[/quote:5c193415b5]\r\n\r\nI think you\'re asking for a bit more than the reasonable.\r\n\r\nFor starters, I would just like to remind you that a majority of this game is played by minors. You\'ll have to expect the overall nonsense that you talked about, it\'s only normal. However, you might have the more mature, intelligent members in your guild influence the children. Teach them what\'s acceptable and what isn\'t, when to behave and when to be naughty.  :twisted: \r\n\r\nAs for the &quot;Help me, help me, but I\'ll never help you&quot; part... that one is a bit tricky. I\'ve asked for help myself many times but I\'ve always returned the favour in a sum twice as large. I guess, when you wrote about the ones who are always asking for help and never returning any, that you can pick them out and name them? Let history take its course. People will get sick of helping this person if there is nothing in it for them, and that person will be left by him or herself. If people continue to help him / her (it), then that is their own decision... unless you lead a dictatorship guild. Then, you know... just do your thing. :lol: \r\n\r\nAs for your application, if you\'re looking for more mature members, don\'t change it. It may or may not be a good idea to have a out of the norm application, and seeing as how you guys aren\'t a huge guild I would stick to the normal routine. (Ct profile with gear, fire/nature resist, previous guilds, why you want to join us, class, race, gender, etc. etc. the works)\r\n\r\nHowever... if you want to, you could be picky. A good way to find a more mature player is to watch his or her style of writing in the application:\r\n\r\nif da guy takls leik dis den e is shet\r\n\r\nHowever, if your applicant types properly and gets his meaning through, you have a winner.\r\n\r\nHope I helped. Remember, please don\'t take everything I say too seriously; I\'m not so sure my opinions are that great.  8)\r\n\r\n[i:5c193415b5]- Jatus [/i:5c193415b5]\r\n\r\nP.S Since I was really good friends with Amath, I became an honorary member of The Bad Touch. I visited their guild forums as well, and when they merged with you guys into FSE, the new guild website was passed on to me.'),(2273,'e3b83fb2ef','','i like jatus, that was a very entertaining story, but i want the juicy details :).  cant hurt to have a little gnome around.'),(2274,'9a38812037','','I seem to remember the name and his app seems better than a lot.\r\n\r\nHe\'s realistic about FSE and what to expect. \r\n\r\nyep from me.'),(2275,'e5fde93c2e','','This guys found a spot with FTW.  He was polite in explaining and all.  Maybe we should send these guys in game mail since they aren\'t always on to receive an invite?   We\'re losing some to lack of action.'),(2276,'36da864c81','Applications and the invites, and the trials and tribulation','I know, I know, a dead horse becomes a zombie and walks again to ask for a beating, but I get to thinking every few new moons.....and here\'s the consequence of my gears turning.\r\n\r\nThe applications are failing to display anything useful in determining the character of the players applying. They weed out the totally illiterate, but a fifth grade communication level can allow for a complete fill-out of the typical answers to the questions and reach guild invite status with ease. The quality of the people applying....has a lot of lazy in it intertwined with very poor communication skills. The application might have to be tweaked (I believe we really need an age thing there, regardless of any current members who\'re sons/daughters of current members before any age requirement is brought forth). \r\n\r\nI\'m almost ready to suggest doing away with them altogether and turning to a more personal style of recruitment that involves direct contact with an officer/recruitment council member in a grouping situation or at least some sort of conversation. I don\'t know how much of my view is shared in the slightest bit by my fellows here in this Chamber of Brains, but I\'m really much more into protecting the integrity of the guild channel atmosphere than gaining the digits for Molten Core. I want to go to Molten Core, but not at the cost of guild chat having d00ds who\'re hoping to be epixed wtf\'ing and turnin\' the channel into a kiddie circus for the specially educated. Direct contact with a player would be the best route in determining wether they belong. It\'s not the kind of task you want to log in to take on, of course.\r\n\r\nTemblor\'s sicked his apprentice Darth Meshach on the people of Azeroth to recruit, and Meshach has gathered some applicants. I stress the value of quality over quanity in these cases. Though his enthusiasm for building upon our ranks is appreciated, of course. I spoke with him (in Ventrilo even!)and he\'s definitely taking on this task with determination. :) \r\n\r\nOur ranks will improve, but hopefully not too hastily as we\'ve seen the effect quick mergers can potentially have if all doesn\'t mesh well.\r\n\r\nNow, I know there\'s always the 2 week trial which involves a forced removal if a player turns out to be incredibly bad, but we\'ve not excercised that often. I don\'t think there\'s a one of us officers who likes the feeling of stripping someone\'s badges off and telling them to hit the road. \r\n\r\nI\'d volunteer myself to be the officer that removes players when their trial period is over, explanations and all that\'re entailed with the task.\r\n\r\nI consider also the possibilty of keeping the applicant feedback forum confined to officer/council access only. \r\n\r\nSo, I don\'t know how to go about it, but I could add a few things to the application if I knew how to access that thingamjig. \r\n\r\nThe expansion\'s coming soon, and that should help rebuild some enthusiasm and bring some players out of hibernation. We\'ll get numbers back up shortly with our core, I suspect. Not really too desperate to add a bunch of Gary Vandervorts to the ranks to fill seats. If I\'m alone in this feeling, I suck, and sorry! \r\n\r\nThems is my thoughts for now.'),(2322,'4c9c7bf116','','[quote:4c9c7bf116=\"Temblor\"]The general will heal you[/quote:4c9c7bf116]Ahh...  That would DEFINITELY be helpful.'),(2277,'25d3a81b15','','Any decision on this guy?  It\'s so plain it\'s hard to tell.\r\n\r\nCan we add the age question on the app?'),(2278,'b5d4d9b167','','I just like this first answer.  The rest is fine too.  But he\'s not saying he wants to join to do MC and get his leaf.  Quality players works for me.\r\n\r\nYes vote.'),(2279,'adcb007eb5','Re: Applications and the invites, and the trials and tribula','I too agree that we need to at least change the app or add to it.  An essay, or at least some flowcharts or something.  I\'m all for massaging the questions and seeing what comes out of it.\r\n\r\nI think the easiest way to change at the moment would be to update the app and then be a little more liberal with the /gkicks at the two week trial period.  And Dread if anyone would make people laugh as they left the guild or at least make a huge ceremony of it.\r\n\r\nWe need to get back to these people quickly though.  We have a few apps  whose sucktitude isn\'t above and beyond what we might invite with 2 votes or 1 vote and waiting on us to get the 3rd.   We\'ve lost at least one app that we all got 3 yes votes to FTW.  Maybe we could send them in game mail on our decision so they don\'t jump ship before they\'ve boarded and set sail with us.  And caused a mutiny, given us scurvey, and raised the mizzenmast of course.\r\n\r\nMeshach has somewhat of an aptitude for this type of thing.  He cold calls people for his job and convinces them they need things like falling bookshelf insurance or got my head stuck in stairway bannister and starved insurance so getting people to apply is like vacation for him.\r\n\r\nThe stuff with trying to meet everyone or applying by running with a &quot;recruitment officer&quot; or veteran of FSE sounds like a good system, and I think should be a possible next step if this doesn\'t get us the results we want.\r\n\r\nAnyhow there\'s some saying about doing the same thing and getting the same pirate booty...or whatever lets see what we can come up with.'),(2280,'81f8626a6b','','Does seem simple. I say two weeks. Let\'s see how simple he is!\r\n\r\n\r\nyes vote. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2281,'74e5f5a3e7','','Looks good to me. Lets send the invite.\r\n\r\nYes vote.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2282,'4f0f51898c','Rukthukal\'s Application','[b:4f0f51898c]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:4f0f51898c] Saw spam in LFG chat. Spoke breifly with guild leader on his alt. Attracted by the announcement of mature players. I m looking for a guild to run instances with that i about having fun not just getting Teir 3 epics.\r\n\r\nThank you for considering my application. I ll be happy to answer any questions you may have. I look forward to hearing from you soon.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Character Class/Style:[/b:4f0f51898c]  60 Orc Warlock \r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Talent Build:[/b:4f0f51898c]  20/31/0 Demo/Affliction\r\n\r\n+ Drain Life +VW Master Demo + Demo Embrace = Can tank about as well as any caster. Also can sacrifice VW for shield. If Fel Domination is up i can summon him and do it again.\r\n\r\n   Lots of Hp that i can convert to mana. Imp Life Tap\r\n   \r\n   Improved Imp\r\n\r\n   Nightfall \r\n\r\n- Lower Damage than some Locks. (Since recent nerf to Master Demo + Demo Sacrifice)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Gear:[/b:4f0f51898c]  4/8 dreadmist\r\nMostly unnotewothy Blues.\r\nStill using Robes of the Lich. Sadly\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]MC Attuned:[/b:4f0f51898c]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]BWL Attuned:[/b:4f0f51898c]  No\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Onyxia keyed:[/b:4f0f51898c]  No\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Sponsor:[/b:4f0f51898c]  \r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:4f0f51898c]  6-9 +/- 1hr M-Th\r\nWeekends and variable and mostly flexable.\r\n\r\nServer time\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]What raid experience do you have?[/b:4f0f51898c]  Almost none. UBRS and BG\'s.\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:4f0f51898c]  &lt;Bleak&gt; Left to join a in game friend\'s guild.\r\n&lt;Pretty Pussies&gt; Ahh... Friends guild. Thought he was still in &lt;Sons of Korhal&gt;. Left cause i was usually the only one on.\r\n&lt;East&gt; Joined East on invite from guild leader. He was a cool guy so i joined up. Decided to leave because the guild was very small and badly in need of good leadership, the guild leader isn t really on enough to fulfill this duty, and i wish i did but i don t have enough time to provide the leadership this guild needs to get on it s feet.\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:4f0f51898c]  I don t have much expirience in raids but i imagine that  my role would primarily be dps. There may be times (aka adds) when crowd control abilities may be useful.\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:4f0f51898c]  Played a troll rogue to 47 on a friends account before i got the game myself. \r\n\r\nGot my own account mid june 06\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:4f0f51898c]  290 Engineering\r\n300 Cooking\r\n300 First Aid\r\n~200 Fishing\r\n\r\n[b:4f0f51898c]What is your goal ingame?[/b:4f0f51898c]  To have fun. I know several people in RL that play so i play to hang out with them.'),(2283,'407273c54c','','.......a Troll rogue drops dead\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFor months this is all i as GL have asked for Ideas to fix problems\r\n\r\nTemblor and Dread work on app\r\n\r\nAnd Dread shall be given the &quot;tribe has spoken Power&quot;\r\n\r\n\r\nI also would like to put forth when all so long ago i wrote the manifesto I had a certain player type in mind for council and officer and most of the time i have been pleased oh so pleased on who lead this guild  with this said Meshach has in my mind showed everything I would want he has a guild first mentallity and that is important and hell most imporatantly I LIKE HIM  so unless anyone has an issue I shall invoke the power of promote and make him newest council member'),(2284,'e3dd3d4875','','I spent an evening talkin to this guy  \r\n\r\nYes vote'),(2285,'a47e651720','','done invite already'),(2286,'b564f1d558','','Meshach is a power we should harness.  To have another using his power for evil would cause an imbalance in the force.\r\n\r\nAye, I say.  Heartily aye.'),(2287,'0070756d11','','[quote=&quot;Udazhi&quot;]I spent an evening talkin to this guy  \r\n\r\nYes vote[/quote]\r\n\r\n...and no doubt coached him through the app process.  Yes vote I GUESS.\r\n\r\nVentrilliquism and it\'s wonders will never cease.'),(2288,'a744a16674','','I have no problem on shoving my hand up a man\'s ass\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI was in prison I had to do it to survive\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nLONG LIVE THE SHANK'),(2289,'fab2cd8f96','','/bump\r\n\r\nSticky this thread!'),(2290,'e8e63200bc','','Ahkcs needs Val as well, and I\'m still running UBRS to try to get my robes.  I\'m on the 2nd part of the Warlords quest now as well, so I have a few reasons to run UBRS besides just being happy to help \'ole Babs out. :)\r\n\r\nI have written up a quick little silly strat by combining info I got from several different Web sites.  I\'ll try to remember to throw that up in this thread when I get home.'),(2291,'eb9e4ad955','Potatos\'s Application','[b:eb9e4ad955]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:eb9e4ad955] i believe that my hunter will be put to it\'s true potential in this guild.\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Character Class/Style:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  Level 51 Tauren DPS Hunter\r\n\r\nI am mostly agility/intelligence and geared towards being a good source of constant DPS without ever being hit.\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Talent Build:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  right now:\r\n31 marksmanship - improved concussive shot, aimed shot, lethal shots, mortal shots, scatter shot, hawkeye, barrage, trueshot aura, improved hunters mark\r\n\r\n11 beastmastery -  improved aspect of the hawk, improved revive pet, thick hide, beastial swiftness.\r\nplanning on getting ferocity and unleashed fury when turning 60.\r\n\r\n\r\nmight switch to:\r\n21 marksmanship - improved concussive shot, lethal shots, improved hunters mark, aimed shot, mortal shot, scatter shot\r\n\r\n30 survivalist - monster slaying, humanoid slaying, deflection, improved wing clip, deterrence, sure footed, improved feign death, killer instict, counter attack, lightning reflexes\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Gear:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  main weapon: bloodseeker\r\n\r\nstrength: 85\r\nagility: 258\r\nstamina: 128\r\nintelligence: 112\r\nspirit: 80\r\narmor: 1858\r\n\r\nmelee attack: 238\r\nattack power: 500\r\ndamage: 184-280\r\n\r\nrange attack: 252\r\nattack power: 753\r\ndamage: 314-358\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]MC Attuned:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  No\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]BWL Attuned:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  No\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Onyxia keyed:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  No\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Sponsor:[/b:eb9e4ad955]  \r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  Hawaii timezone\r\n\r\nirregular hours during the week\r\ndevoted on weekends\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]What raid experience do you have?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  not much experience with raids except in battlegrounds.  i do accept the chance to raid alliance cities whenever there is a chance though.  i try to go to instances as much as possible instead of grinding because i enjoy other the company as well as the team work.\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  darkfriends\r\n\r\nleft them for being an overall inactive guild\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  DPS\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  ever since it came out\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  skinning/leatherworking\r\n\r\nthis is my first character taking to 60.  i have had 1 of every type of character class and race there is.  i have found that hunters are the class that suits me the most as constant, backline dps.\r\n\r\n[b:eb9e4ad955]What is your goal ingame?[/b:eb9e4ad955]  to get my characters to an all new level of experience, to get a group that will be active during the burning crusade expansion, to ready myself for new instances to come, and to help out guild members'),(2292,'d431050d76','','invited 9/16'),(2293,'9714d18989','','i need shoulders, chest and trinket  so i am down'),(2294,'b9dd4c6402','','I was sad we didn\'t have enough turn out for this, zg day 2.  Sure was great to run with the guild again for zg day 1 though!'),(2295,'225b74facf','','I liked the idea of a need roll determining if an item goes to the guild or a member of the PUG side.  And once that roll determines whether or not the item goes to the guild I like the idea of bidding via normal DKP style on the guild side.  If I were PUGging along I\'d find that system, as long as it was explained to me, to be more than fair to all and I\'d be inclined to put in an app if I were looking to be guilded.\r\n\r\nThe system is fair to all and still allows us guildies to earn/use DKP which I think is a plus for reasons specified above.  I thought it worked out great and the bidding process really isn\'t that big of an ordeal.  It\'s kinda fun, actually.'),(2296,'2a06242b7f','','I was drunk, but the above comment sobered me up. \r\n\r\n\r\nI vote yes merely because in his &quot;what times do you play&quot; section he used the plus and negative sign. Holy freaking crap.\r\n\r\nYes vote.'),(2297,'e7a89619ac','','I can\'t get the layout to work worth a damn but here is the basic information I collected and combined:\r\n\r\nLord Valthalak:  Lots of ranged DPS is helpful for this fight.\r\n      I.	Phase 1, 100% to 41% health\r\n         A.	Hunters, priests, locks – drain his mana.  Keep a mana sting on Val at all times, have a lock spam drain mana to keep it from building up.  (He heals &amp; in phase 2 uses mana for chain lightning effect)\r\n         B.	Have all pets out and concentrated on Val (helps aggro adds).  One suggestion is to keep pets away from the boss and put them on aggressive to aggro the adds.\r\n         C.	MT on Val, classes able to heal should do it and try to conserve mana:  MT #1 priority, locks &amp; mages #2.\r\n         D.	Spectral Assasins will appear 2 @ a time during phase 1\r\n            1.	Spectrals will freeze players &amp; channel.  After 10 seconds the player will die.  Everyone should turn on their mob healthbar (V by default) to better see these mobs.\r\n2.	Everyone but healers &amp; mt should stop what they’re doing &amp; kill these as soon as they appear.\r\n3.	Ideas:  arcane explosion (mage), multishot (hunter), instant hits (rogue, warr)\r\n4.	When a player dies s/he becomes an additional Spectral\r\n5.	One suggestion was using warstomp (tauren) &amp; shock (shaman) on the adds to stop them (??  Not sure if this would work after the draining spell starts…)\r\nII.	Phase 2, 40% to 16% health\r\nA.	Val changes weapons, Spectrals stop appearing\r\nB.	All melee but mt run to the casters &amp; switch to ranged if possible.  This mitigates an exponential chain lightning effect (17k dmg)\r\nC.	All out DPS, it helps if mt disarms.\r\nIII.	Phase 3, 15% to 0% health\r\nA.	Val starts running around and attacking everyone – use shadow protection, he spams shadow bolts.\r\nB.	Big time DPS\r\nC.	Melee should run back in, prot warrior should use shield wall.  Maybe a tremor totem?'),(2298,'286734f508','','He\'s a plant, this isn\'t a real application.  He\'s going to come on and go &quot;ZOMG MY FRIENDS ZARGATH AND XANAR SAID YOUZ ALL THE 1337 SAUCZE!!!&quot;\r\n\r\nYes vote.'),(2299,'7f318f13f7','','[quote:7f318f13f7=\"Dreadwind\"]I was drunk, but the above comment sobered me up. \r\n\r\n\r\nI vote yes merely because in his &quot;what times do you play&quot; section he used the plus and negative sign. Holy freaking crap.\r\n\r\nYes vote.[/quote:7f318f13f7]\r\n\r\nAll those nights spent with Uda are starting to have more meaning now? \r\n\r\n&quot;It all makes sense now&quot;'),(2300,'5bdd68da3e','Meshach for Council!','So I was thinking about it and when we look for people to move into the elite ranks (heheh) of FSE, we\'re really looking for people who\'re doing more to benefit the guild.  \r\n\r\nUda suggested this to me the other day and I was thinking that we should get Meshach into council.  He\'s doing quite a bit lately with actively recruiting, at the very least getting us a much larger pool of fools to choose from.  \r\n\r\nHe organized our first raid in like 2 months and has been making connections with other guilds.  I think we should take a vote and see about getting him onto the council.\r\n\r\nOh also, I think he\'d keep track more of /ginviting people so we wouldn\'t have to worry about it as much :)'),(2301,'8927c0e8b7','','I am also up for AQ, but am 542 or so rep away from friendly with CC.'),(2302,'0e1b0df848','','yeah i know zeph is exalted with cc also....I would like to continue to here from people to know what there rep is with cc and interest'),(2303,'653b57a565','',':)\r\n\r\nI love it!!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2304,'c7c92efe0a','','We invite yet?\r\n\r\nI like the app, lets get him!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2305,'3b9e40e498','','Just what I remember from this fight - it was a fun one.\r\n\r\n[quote:3b9e40e498]\r\n      I.	Phase 1, 100% to 41% health\r\n         A.	Hunters, priests, locks – drain his mana.  Keep a mana sting on Val at all times, have a lock spam drain mana to keep it from building up.  (He heals &amp; in phase 2 uses mana for chain lightning effect)[/quote:3b9e40e498]\r\n\r\nThis is huge.  The viper sting is key too since it keeps ticking while his mana tries to regen.  We tried with just a warlock draining him but the warlock was spending too much mana to drain a few ticks of Vals mana and Val could still get a spell off.\r\n\r\n[quote:3b9e40e498]B.	Have all pets out and concentrated on Val (helps aggro adds).  One suggestion is to keep pets away from the boss and put them on aggressive to aggro the adds.[/quote:3b9e40e498]\r\n\r\nThe aggro issues might be good if the adds go after a pet but be careful here.  He has a chain drain life that will jump to people in range of him so if the pets can be hit by this it\'s very bad.  Here\'s why:  The first person to get hit by it is fine, it\'s maybe a few hundred damage and he gets healed for that much, but with each jump (like chain lightning) it gets stronger, it may even double.  So if too many people are close (pets included) you\'re looking at 1k for the next jump, 2k if it hops to a 3rd and so on.  When we were too close we had people getting hit for 4k, and he\'s healed for as much and the fight is over at that point.  So if you use pets, find a way to keep them away from him.\r\n\r\n         \r\n        [quote:3b9e40e498] D.	Spectral Assasins will appear 2 @ a time during phase 1\r\n            1.	Spectrals will freeze players &amp; channel.  After 10 seconds the player will die.  Everyone should turn on their mob healthbar (V by default) to better see these mobs.\r\n2.	Everyone but healers &amp; mt should stop what they’re doing &amp; kill these as soon as they appear.\r\n3.	Ideas:  arcane explosion (mage), multishot (hunter), instant hits (rogue, warr)\r\n4.	When a player dies s/he becomes an additional Spectral\r\n5.	One suggestion was using warstomp (tauren) &amp; shock (shaman) on the adds to stop them (??  Not sure if this would work after the draining spell starts…)[/quote:3b9e40e498]\r\n\r\nThis is where the meat of the fight is.  Shocking doesn\'t stop the channeling, neither does kicking it seemed, but they die FAST if everyone besides the MT and main healer(s) turn on the adds immediately.  Shocks and whatnot are great for dropping them quickly but mages may want to just use frostbolt or whatever else then Arc. expl to finish them for mana efficiency.  Don\'t think a few rogues can handle it themselves because when the spectrals will eventually go after the rogues sometime and freeze them while they channel and kill them.\r\n\r\n[quote:3b9e40e498]II.	Phase 2, 40% to 16% health\r\nA.	Val changes weapons, Spectrals stop appearing\r\nB.	All melee but mt run to the casters &amp; switch to ranged if possible.  This mitigates an exponential chain lightning effect (17k dmg)\r\nC.	All out DPS, it helps if mt disarms.\r\nIII.	Phase 3, 15% to 0% health\r\nA.	Val starts running around and attacking everyone – use shadow protection, he spams shadow bolts.\r\nB.	Big time DPS\r\nC.	Melee should run back in, prot warrior should use shield wall.  Maybe a tremor totem?[/quote:3b9e40e498]\r\n\r\nAll of this sounds good.  Shaman dropping grounding totems is also something that I think was working.  Something was being absorbed by my grounding totems.  Hopefully you have some random priest who will stand alone against Val when all the others are dead and he\'s at 1%.  That guy in our group will forever be my hero.  Whatever his name was.\r\n\r\nMuch of this may not be right, but I hope it helps somehow.\r\n\r\nI\'m in to do this, it\'s a fun fight.  Let me know if I\'m on.'),(2306,'d46fb46552','','I\'m all for it.\r\n\r\nyes and yes.'),(2307,'b4addea171','','[img:577:226:b4addea171]http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6349/ihopeidiexs7.png[/img:b4addea171]'),(2308,'0b21128e4e','','This is because he couldn\'t get a BRD run together on a whim at level 54.'),(2309,'91e5e0b87b','','Ahh, so he was bi-polar.'),(2310,'dc6db08a13','','im recently friendly and would be very into doing some aq..count me in'),(2311,'82eb0eb0fe','','Please forgive my ignorance.  BUT...  How does being friendly with CC help with clearing bosses in AQ?  I\'ve never gone for CC rep - I was always too busy with AD and Timbermaw.'),(2312,'1ee1223a31','','It\'s like doing ZG, when you clear trash in ZG you get a point for each guy or so.  When you down a boss you get like 130-150 points of rep and such.'),(2313,'df8bd151da','','Your rep level also has an affect in the event fight with all the NPCs on your side.  The general will heal you for a couple hundred ever few seconds if you\'re a particular reputation with CC.'),(2314,'fda4c9a9de','','I tried to invite him but he didn\'t answer.  Lets \r\n get this guy if you see him on.'),(2315,'95e2f67cfa','','Invited 9/17.  He\'ll need forum access.'),(2316,'79d16ee02b','','not inviting him was right choice  as Temb said he was a lazer ass in a PuG for aq20'),(2317,'70e5ad9db5','','For the record I wrote this post getting some input from Uda but not having read his post in the changin of the app stuff.\r\n\r\nFor the record :)'),(2318,'cd591e3a94','','BTW, talked to Lazerjames today, I think he\'ll be in the guild soon and has a score to settle with Alphatrion.'),(2319,'277a0a4629','','Doublepost'),(2320,'65fabedd6b','','lol'),(2321,'5ff14e2357','','Not even I, or fate, or Christopher Walken as the angel Gabriel could keep Lazer James from being born I guess.'),(2323,'7c5e99a71a','','[quote:7c5e99a71a=\"Temblor\"]He has a chain drain life that will jump to people in range of him so if the pets can be hit by this it\'s very bad.[/quote:7c5e99a71a]Isn\'t this just in phase two, though, after the Spectrals stop coming out?  Or am I confused...'),(2324,'fa3fc8e8b7','','I am very excited to hear that people are all ready friendly with cc if you want advice on how to do it fast please msg me I would love to help you out.'),(2325,'4cc7af264b','','No, I\'m certain that he does it in phase one.  We were too close to him and were on the receiving end of the beatdown stick a couple of times.\r\n\r\nAt least I\'m pretty certain.  ANyone else back up my brain on this one?'),(2326,'4b47c5ffc9','','one thing i was thinkin about is that the group size would and could be greatly increased........... If we reopen the FSE aid tent on .5 quests at many levels i know of at least 3-6 people at 45 strat.  I am at ogre beads.  A few more at BRD and couple at Silithus and Duke of Earl so maybe we should look here as a way to get Val down FSEstyley'),(2327,'0d5a47ff59','','Temblor is right the General in the second fight heals everyone in the raid that is friendly with CC for 200 every 3 secs if we have amplify magic on us it is 325 and if the mage has put talent points into amplify magic it is 450 so thouse of you that have done this fight before and got beat up this is how we will get access to BORU and MOAM and the rest of AQ.'),(2328,'a415140129','','sure why not'),(2329,'bfb08e345e','','Yes'),(2780,'7c7d5053be','','Guild name(s)?\r\n\r\nOther chars names?\r\n\r\nGoal: Kick ally\'s ass?\r\n\r\nIMO, he is not right for the guild.'),(2330,'50feb58381','FSE Saturday runs','I would like to see us run a Weekend run...I know weekends are hard to pull off 20 people but if we get majority guildies we can get decent pugs. And if there ends up being enough interest perhaps we can go to dkp. But for now lets just find a good time that works and try to build it in two the weekly grind. This week i posted it at 2:00 I personally would like to see it earlier in day so please speek up with what times would NOT work for you.'),(2331,'546c015bc6','Undeadcutie\'s Application','[b:546c015bc6]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:546c015bc6] at this moment i don\'t want to join, as i\'ve said im gm of my own guild, meshach told me to sign up here to go raiding with you guys :)\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Character Class/Style:[/b:546c015bc6]  60 undead rogue\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Talent Build:[/b:546c015bc6]  almost all assasination, great for raids because you dont need sap in zg lol and using instant poison for extra dps with the extra 10% chance for poison to hit and 20% more dmg, hit with poison almost every time for extra 156 dmg, cold blood to build up 5 points then 100% chance to crit in the end for lots of high end dmg... only downfall is not a very high end dmg when using things like backstab, which is more a good thing then downfall in ZG.\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Gear:[/b:546c015bc6]  I have lobotomizer with crusader in mainhand and glacial blade with 15 agil in left hand. 15 agil gun, don julios band + legionares band, helm of fire and blazewind breastplate will both be replaced by tuesday ill be next pvp rank for those two, already have blood guards grips and blood guards walkers, aiming for the whole set, have frostwolf insignia 6 for trinket and 8 other good trinkets i switch out.. frostwolf belt and cloak, first sergent armguards.\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]MC Attuned:[/b:546c015bc6]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]BWL Attuned:[/b:546c015bc6]  No\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Onyxia keyed:[/b:546c015bc6]  No\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Sponsor:[/b:546c015bc6]  Meshach told me to sign up... not sure if it was a sponsor lol\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:546c015bc6]  I work 12 hour days twice a week, and 12 hour wow days for the rest, am able to play whenever you would need me mostly.\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]What raid experience do you have?[/b:546c015bc6]  I have a 60 priest and 60 hunter on alliance tichondrius, done onyxia and mc hundreds of times, done mc through the whole thing, droped those chars completely to come here to horde and play my 60 rogue.\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:546c015bc6]  I ran my own guild called hand of fate on tichondrius, handed it over to my uncle when i came to horde, its still running with over 150 members... have my own guild here called &lt;Not in the Face&gt;, didn\'t leave it and not planing to, just want to raid with you guys, not join the guild just yet as i have over 60 members dependant on me as guild master.\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:546c015bc6]  hmmm... well i don\'t heal too well unless i carry 100 bandages on me, so as a rogue I would be DPS! :)\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:546c015bc6]  I have played wow ever since the beggining, I have proof if you want it, my little panda cub pet follows my rogue everywhere i go :).\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:546c015bc6]  if you should need i would be more then happy to help with my professions, my rogue is a 300 engineer, I could get the schem for repair bot in 1 hour if you want, also have an enchanter but it doesn\'t have all the good enchants yet.\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:546c015bc6]What is your goal ingame?[/b:546c015bc6]  my goals as of now are getting rank 11 in pvp for the 90g elite mount and finishing my pvp gear off... my goals with you are getting myself the daggar of hakkar from ZG, and some other stuff as well :)'),(2332,'08255305e0','','lol we had a miscommunication i told him to join the guild to run with us...I will tell him that if we need any pugs I will have him on a friends list but we only run guildies for majority of runs'),(2333,'7506819e95','','What day would this be on: Saturday or Sunday? \r\n\r\nEither way, I should be good to go for it, and do not see any persistent problems that would keep me from making them; other than the occasional thing that comes up.'),(2334,'c60f5f5299','Taladar\'s Application','[b:c60f5f5299]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:c60f5f5299] I am looking for an end game guild on Boulderfist.  The servfer is highly populated and there alot of 60 running around. I started later in the game and now am struggling to get into an end game guild to get the gear I need.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Character Class/Style:[/b:c60f5f5299]  Rogue\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Talent Build:[/b:c60f5f5299]  Assassination 5, Combat 20, Subtlety 26\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Gear:[/b:c60f5f5299]  Weapons: Krol Blade and Shadowfang, 2 peices of the Shadowcraft set, geared for crit for now, havnt been 60 long, but my gear is alright.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]MC Attuned:[/b:c60f5f5299]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]BWL Attuned:[/b:c60f5f5299]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Onyxia keyed:[/b:c60f5f5299]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Sponsor:[/b:c60f5f5299]  \r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:c60f5f5299]  7ish PM west coast week days, mostly because traffic in Seattle sucks and my job is in the port district.  Weekends, usually most of the weekend, unless i make plans.  \r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]What raid experience do you have?[/b:c60f5f5299]  Been to ZG a few times, last guild i was in was Rockem Sockem Robots, they fell apart and some of us made a smaller guild Vox Superum.  We mostly PVP in small groups, not enough memebers to do ZG or AQ20, just some friends hanging out.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:c60f5f5299]  Rockem Sockem Robots, the former guild master was very strict about fallowing orders in ZG raids, we attack all the bosses on his battle plan and managed to get them.  The 2 we never downed where Panther and Hakkar himself.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:c60f5f5299]  DPS on what the MT is hitting unles told other wise by raid leader.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:c60f5f5299]  8 months\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:c60f5f5299]  Skining 300 Gnomish Eng 300 on this guy, have a 42 lock herbalist/ alchemist, and a 38 hunter miner/enchanter.  Both alts trade skills are either maxed due to level, or close now that they have artisan level.\r\n\r\n[b:c60f5f5299]What is your goal ingame?[/b:c60f5f5299]  Get better gear before the Burning Crusade comes out so i don\'t drow in the ownage from Allies world PVP'),(2335,'c900947fe3','Reinic\'s Application','[b:c900947fe3]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:c900947fe3] Your weekend raid time is good for me, I have a problem with guild raid times on weekdays and I was told it would be ok if I only made the weekends. \r\n\r\nSeems like a friendly, and progressive guild.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Character Class/Style:[/b:c900947fe3]  Hunter/style??\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Talent Build:[/b:c900947fe3]  21 Marksman/30 Survival\r\n\r\nIt\'s really a pvp build but it\'s awesome DPS and I get alot of stuns, my traps also last longer.\r\n\r\nThe downfall...I was beastmastery until level 55...I can\'t solo things aswell now.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Gear:[/b:c900947fe3]  2/6 (soon to be 4) pvp set. Only 3 greens...I really need to get rid of those. \r\n\r\nDwarven hand cannon, ice barbed spear. I plan on paying a guild 500g to run me through MC for my leaf so I can get the bow/staff/quiver set.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]MC Attuned:[/b:c900947fe3]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]BWL Attuned:[/b:c900947fe3]  No\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Onyxia keyed:[/b:c900947fe3]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Sponsor:[/b:c900947fe3]  \r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:c900947fe3]  Weekdays - anywhere from 1-9 (about 2-6 hours a day)\r\n\r\nWeekends - any\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]What raid experience do you have?[/b:c900947fe3]  MC\r\nzg/aq20\r\nOny\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:c900947fe3]  Drunken Camels, I have awesome friends from the guild but we werent getting members fast enough to progress so we merged, I\'m not too fond of the guild we merged with.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:c900947fe3]  Good dps, can pull successfully.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:c900947fe3]  5 months? I watched my boyfriend play for about a year before I started, that helped alot.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:c900947fe3]  No 60 alts on this server, I haven\'t really raised my leatherworking much, I plan on it, and plan on going dragonscale.\r\n\r\n[b:c900947fe3]What is your goal ingame?[/b:c900947fe3]  My goal would have to be getting to rank 10 before the expansion. Hehe =)'),(2336,'a641decda3','','I liked this guy told him that we are going to try to have a weekend raid time if there was enough interest. And he seemed sincere about wanting to help out with our guild.\r\n\r\nMy vote would be a yes since he wont impact us either way since he can raid durring week.'),(2337,'15b73e5709','','This guy dosent seem to have the best equipment but he was really nice when I talked to him and we are in desperate need of rogues.\r\n\r\nI will vote two weeks (though im not sure how we implement that) based on our need for rogues (though the 7:00 start kind of sucks) and I like the fact that he is older'),(2338,'bfb2753f08','','I put down saturday for this week on calander but thinking about it the 2:00 sunday time does seem to make sence for me. Please put down day and times you would like to see on weekends (thanks Dethe)'),(2339,'713106b76c','','we can give a try i would think\r\n\r\n\r\n2 weeks yes'),(2340,'97759be225','','fine by Uda'),(2341,'6a8e5a8476','','[quote:6a8e5a8476]I liked this guy told him that we are going to try to have a weekend raid time if there was enough interest. And he seemed sincere about wanting to help out with our guild.\r\n\r\nMy vote would be a yes since he wont impact us either way since he can raid durring week.[/quote:6a8e5a8476]\r\n\r\nYou mean [b:6a8e5a8476]she[/b:6a8e5a8476] right?   And if it\'s a guy with a boyfriend, he\'d fit right in too :)\r\n\r\nYes vote.'),(2342,'52d38cb19a','','Yep.  Two weeks.'),(2343,'bfc246f09a','','Saturday is definitely best for me due to wife aggro'),(2344,'ed44da06dd','','sunday afternoon towards evening is best for me.'),(2345,'983d00c3d4','','works for me.  give rouges a chance'),(2346,'1f4d47beaf','So there is this rumor going around...','...that the Horde actually won a game of AV?'),(2347,'b5643c148d','','Screen shot or it didn\'t happen.'),(2348,'c859d43061','','[quote=&quot;barbie&quot;]works for me.  give rouges a chance[/quote]\r\n\r\nBut there on there own for heals!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2349,'c917996704','','Horay for gay boys, and the men who love them!!\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2350,'23d7767b36','','[quote:23d7767b36]\r\nBut they\'re on their own for heals!\r\nz[/quote:23d7767b36]\r\n\r\nfixed! :P'),(2351,'124db43f88','','Guilded 9/22...\r\n\r\n...Zuwani I dunno even how to reply to that except I hope your account on here got hacked.'),(2352,'5f5d6cef82','ZG for Tue. the 26 and Wed. 27','Next week we are going to do a test week to see how tue wed goes for us. Historically Thursdays have always had a bad turn out for FSE. So hopefully this week we can hit it two days in a row. If these days effect you positively or negatively please leave feedback. Also since this is a test week please make the 6:30 times if you can so we have an idea for future numbers (if you cant make it but like Tuesday over Thursday also indicate that here please).'),(2353,'15c403de14','','My current schedule is Sun/Mon/Tue off, but I am getting hit with mandatory overtime on my days off due to staffing issues.  So far Tue is clear but I\'ll be at work until 8:30pm server time on Wed.  They already took this Sun away from me, but I can be there Tue as long as they don\'t nail me again.  :)'),(2354,'109f32627f','Vent bill just about due?','Isn\'t the bill for the Ventrillo server due on 9/26/06?  I just tried to use the Clan Pay System ([url]http://fse.luniz.org/viewtopic.php?t=54[/url]) to donate toward the bill but the instructions listed here are no longer valid.  Is it ok to just click on the PayPal donate link on the main page of the FSE site ([url]http://fse.luniz.org/donate.php[/url]) to make a donation?'),(2355,'3c3d1ae418','','This is a great idea, and I hope it works; although I will be unable to attend tomorrow :(, but should be able to next week and so on.'),(3478,'d3df19c584','','Sounds fine to me!\r\n\r\nTwo weeks.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(3479,'c3d440f5c1','Out of Town','Ok guys, i will be out of town for the next couple of weeks.  I will try to install  WoW on the computer that will be available, but it is possible that the computer may not be powerful enough to handle it.  If that is the case, i will see you guys in 2007! If i can get it working, i should be on the 21st or 22nd.'),(2555,'0ea377f1f4','','I got SC Strat done this weekend, and I want to thank everyone for the help. We even downed the twins twice in a row just to farm loot. GJ and thanks. If anyone else needs these guys just send me a tell in-game, and let\'s pwn them.'),(2357,'1109e939be','','Nothing is due till 12/26/06.'),(2358,'ecf08c1d56','Raeldrli\'s Application','[b:ecf08c1d56]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:ecf08c1d56] I\'m looking for a small, close knitt group of guys that are just getting into ZG and AQ.  I want to help grow a small fun loving guild into a raiding force, and move into the expansion 25 man instances.  \r\n\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Character Class/Style:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  60 Rogue, I\'m a Dagger style rogue to the core.  Best dps pve and more skill based pvp.  \r\n\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Talent Build:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Seal fate, some combat for pve dps boost.\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Gear:[/b:ecf08c1d56]   http://ctprofiles.net/2741606\r\nMostly 10 and 20 man blues, a few epics.\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]MC Attuned:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]BWL Attuned:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Onyxia keyed:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Sponsor:[/b:ecf08c1d56]  \r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  My playtimes unfortunately vary wildly. I play upwards for 20-30 hours a week, but because of my work schedule, which changes on a week by week bases, what time of day i\'m on isn\'t always the same.  \r\nI can, however, request of for any regularly scheduled raid days on a long term basis.  If the raid days change, though, it would be a lot of trouble to ask off a different day each week. \r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]What raid experience do you have?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  All of MC, all of ZG including Hakkar, Onyxia farmed, AQ 20 first 20 bosses, BWL just to razorgore.\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  I was one of the early members of HEL, and was with them for a very long time.  They were a great bunch of guys but due ot a shoddy DKP system and a few troublemakers had problems getting past MC.  When HEL reformed into Rubicon with some Leviathin folks, I went along for a while, but never really got into the new guild.  \r\nI\'ve since tried a few big raiding guilds, but my heart really isn\'t in to 40 man right now.\r\nSince then I\'ve been looking for a small, good group of guys to have fun with, run some zg and aq, and get ready for the expansion.\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Well my class if of course all about pure dps, but in truth my play style goes beyond that.  I\'m not really one to sit back and watch things happen; I want to take an active role in the success of the raid and am always ready to help new people, look up strats, farm materials, and plan the attack.  I frequently find myself in the strategist or mentor role, but I am not really the up front leader type.  I suppose it would be more accurate to say I am a good wing man: the knowledgeable advisor or assistant working behind the scenes to make sure the main Leader is successful.\r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  A little over one year.  Total /played is probably around 70 days. \r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  Yes. \r\nProfessions:\r\n I am a miner and engineer.  I have repair bot, and am adept at solo farming dark iron ore.  I\'ll be happy to supply ore for crafted fr items, etc.\r\n\r\nMy main alt is Nashu, a level 60 tauren Hunter.  She has her rank 10 pvp set, as well as the various bg epics (she\'s exalted with wsg and av.) Nashu is actually probably better geared than my rogue. &lt;P \r\nI\'d be happy to use her if hunters are in greater demand, or use her professions for the guilds  (skinner/elemental lw) \r\n\r\n[b:ecf08c1d56]What is your goal ingame?[/b:ecf08c1d56]  1. Have fun.\r\n2. See new content.\r\nI am a long time blizz fan, I\'ve played warcraft since the first game ten years ago. (has it really been that long?)\r\nI love bliz lore and the world they\'ve created, and my main reason for continuing to play is to see the new content.  I want to get geared only as a means to this end.'),(2359,'4725f30e58','','i dont comment on these alot, but this has to be one of the best apps i have read.'),(2360,'65ffe944d6','','looks good 2 weeks'),(2361,'5d969c86e0','','Invite this one...this one is sensible, this one!'),(2362,'b046c9f18c','Evill\'s Application','[b:b046c9f18c]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:b046c9f18c] Raided ZG with you guys and was impressed.  Also you are a west coast guild so it fits my time zone. \r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]Character Class/Style:[/b:b046c9f18c]  Warrior/Prot Spec\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]Talent Build:[/b:b046c9f18c]  11/1/39 - Prot mostly so not much dmg coming from me.  But I am over 10k Armor buffed =)\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]Gear:[/b:b046c9f18c]  UBRS, ZG, Imovable object, etc. \r\nstats as follows in Defensive gear\r\nunbuffed.\r\nstr 233\r\nag 111\r\nstam 304\r\narmor 7725\r\nDefense: 362\r\nresists suck all about 10 in def gear. Working on getting FR gear though.\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]MC Attuned:[/b:b046c9f18c]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]Sponsor:[/b:b046c9f18c]  \r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:b046c9f18c]  Arizona Time Zone (PST summers MST winters)\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]What raid experience do you have?[/b:b046c9f18c]  Not too much but I read a lot on tactics before I go anywhere so I am not totally clueless. I did raid ZG with you guys in a PUG.\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:b046c9f18c]  Vamp Legion - my buddy quit who started the guild and it fell apart. Nothig realy since except recently join Unaccepted b/c they asked me to join and I was bored.\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:b046c9f18c]  MT/Off-Tank\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:b046c9f18c]  Beta\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:b046c9f18c]  300 Alchemist, 290 Blacksmith/Weaponsmith\r\n\r\n[b:b046c9f18c]What is your goal ingame?[/b:b046c9f18c]  Have fun/stress relief =)'),(2363,'5304cdfb25','','he did the pug with us on sat and did a great job i know we dont need more warriors put he is prot speced and had a good attiude through whole run I would say two weeks'),(2364,'3552fd2784','','Yeah, this guy followed directions and wasn\'t disrespectful or anything.  Did a nice job.  Yes vote.'),(2365,'ca3ec23d0c','','Grab this one quick.'),(2366,'4606251422','Dontgetshot:  should he stay or should he go?','Most apps don\'t end up with their own thread where we review them in two weeks but this guy needs one.  Which isn\'t a positive thing.\r\n\r\nToday in ZG he joined partway through with a pug that was doing great and led by Meshach and about 10 members of FSE.  All were getting along and the puggers were impressed I should say with how FSE rolled.  We have or will have a couple apps from this one run.\r\n\r\nDontget joined and immediately began to whine/comment about things like &quot;why aren\'t we going to kill those tiger mobs cause I need the rep&quot; to yelling at people in the raid that were combat looting that they would be kicked if they kept it up.  It was annoying to have combat looting, but it had been minimal until he showed he was so upset by it.  We wiped a couple times and he made more comments like &quot;Man, we wipe every pull.&quot;  At this point I msged him that if sets a tone that FSE is a bunch of idiots, guess who we\'ll get apping to the guild?  Not the good apps, that\'s for sure  (I pointed out the last part just in case he couldn\'t put 2 and 2 together).\r\n\r\nAnyhow, if we voted today I know I would say no and he should hit the road.  Form some opinions on this guy from your interactions with him and we\'ll hopefully decide if he\'s good for the guild at the two week mark.\r\n\r\nI don\'t mean to not give the guy a chance.  He seems capable and all and I hope this was a one time deal and today happened to be the day his pet hamster had died and he has issues dealing with loss or something.  But just wanted to see if anyone else felt the same or very different than I did.'),(2367,'183da6144f','','In game experince with FSE Council &gt; any app.\r\n\r\n2 weeks.'),(2368,'0d4ad8ce61','','While I was not there, I have yet to be lead astray by Temblor\'s judgment. I would like to hear more from thoughs that where there. Thus far however, I would say that the two week rule would be in effect. \r\n\r\n\r\nz\r\n\r\nP.S. Looks like Sept 27th is his two week mark.'),(2369,'5f1d6c5050','Horde WINS AV','Won one tonight! :shock:'),(2370,'f21c6c1deb','','[quote:f21c6c1deb=\"Amalo\"]Screen shot or it didn\'t happen.[/quote:f21c6c1deb]\r\n\r\n\r\n^^^'),(2371,'94ef567921','','As soon as I hit 52 I dove into AV to get me some rep, honor and a beautiful little thing called the Cold Forged Hammer.  Since then I\'ve already managed to get my rep up to honored, my rank up to Sergeant and during this entire time we have only won ONE FREAKING GAME.'),(2372,'e8b818a8c0','','Temblor\'s a noob, I say we just kick him for starting a ruckus.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nThough really, we should at the very least talk to him and let him know how his actions reflect upon him and FSE as a group.  Most likely that talking to would get the \'WTF you guys are so uptight\' /gquit response, or he\'ll actually shape up a bit.\r\n\r\nDibs Temblor.'),(2373,'812e9e313e','Shawmen\'s Application','[b:812e9e313e]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:812e9e313e] cuz i ran ZG with them and it was my best run yet of ZG\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Character Class/Style:[/b:812e9e313e]  Shammy \r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Talent Build:[/b:812e9e313e]  resto\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Gear:[/b:812e9e313e]  blue dragonscale (chest,shoulders,legs)\r\nfive thunder (wrist, waist, hands)\r\nweps: shivsprocket shiv, immovable object\r\nbloodmailboots\r\ncloak of the hakkari worshipper\r\nforstwold advisory pendant\r\nhelm of exile \r\nlegionnaire band\r\ndon maurcutio band of domination\r\nenamored water spirtir/fostwolf insginia rank 6/royal seal of Eldre thalas\r\n\r\npretty much all blues and some epics\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]MC Attuned:[/b:812e9e313e]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]BWL Attuned:[/b:812e9e313e]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Onyxia keyed:[/b:812e9e313e]  No\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Sponsor:[/b:812e9e313e]  \r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:812e9e313e]  im 3 hours after server time and pretty on ever day\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]What raid experience do you have?[/b:812e9e313e]  i got BWL,ZG,AQ20\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:812e9e313e]  Unaccepted.............always stayed there and i want t leave it cuz i want to raid stuff in a good but not to big guild that raids\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:812e9e313e]  anything a shammy can do usualy i do resto\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:812e9e313e]  6 months\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:812e9e313e]  im herbal and mining\r\n\r\n[b:812e9e313e]What is your goal ingame?[/b:812e9e313e]  get some good gear'),(2374,'69a00d13f3','','if we have to stick with the two weeks i say let him go... Though I dont think he said anything after veine complained though we only played for like 15 more mins.'),(2375,'d5d2b785a2','','Meshach says he did good in ZG with them the other day, I say yes vote.'),(2376,'0abfab30c6','','Everyone from this run did a good job...they listened to instructions and did not spam vent with stuff....So i have no objections to giving this guy two weeks.  Yes vote'),(2377,'05073ff058','War effort vs. the Panther boss','Meshach has found a possible way of cracking the super tough nut known as the panther boss.  He plans to use [url=http://thottbot.com/?i=8147]flash bombs[/url] to fear the panthers and keep them feared.  We have the technology so to speak but we need the mats if you come across them.\r\n\r\nTemblor can make them but what he needs for materials per flash bomb is\r\n1 heavy stone (miner alts should find lots of this)\r\n\r\n1 silk cloth (lvl 30ish mobs seem to start dropping it for my alt)\r\n\r\n1 blue pearl - these are the buggars to get.  In the vile reef, (the coast of gromgol/stv) giant clams drop these 100% of the time.  It\'s just a lot of swimming to get them all.  So you underwater breathers and druids with swimming form any you could harvest and send to temblor would help us down this boss on a routine basis we think.\r\n\r\nAt the moment a few have been buying the mats but would love any assistance in gathering them from all of you.\r\n\r\nOne other note, you get the schematic from the badlands for a quest where you turn in 9 blue pearls.  The quest giver is in the middle of the badlands and you only get the schematic if you are an engineer. (Thanks Baeloc for finding that - you ARE the smartest man alive.)\r\n\r\nRukthukal also has the schematic so if you have mats he\'ll be making these little treats for FSE too.'),(2378,'a49b7d6b0d','','Two weeks as well.  He did a nice job and didn\'t complain about any of the stuff a lot of players might have problems with.'),(2379,'c76c2b1f5f','','This guy guilded on 9/24.  He needs forum access and all that junk.  The introductory flyer and secret handshake and member number.'),(2380,'6e4e5eddd4','Switching raids between aq and zg each week','I have had talks with many of the council about this and it seems pretty popular for the most part. I believe you will find in the next few weeks that if we get numbers fou our runs we will have all the bosses in zg on farm. We are geared for it and have the strats to do it. I would love to see us switch every other week with aq. I have no doubt that we can get through buro in one run leaving the hunter moam and the main boss for the second day. There is a ton of good loot in aq once you get past Kurinexx and the distance between bosses is just like zg (short). I know in the past zg was the place for us it drops better starting gear and we could get more then one boss down on a run so more loot was given out to the guild. But now between us being able to down all the bosses and putting zg on a weekend as well we can get lots of good drops out of zg and have the fun of experiencing aq and getting our epics and books out of there.\r\nI would like to hear back from people about their thoughts since I have been updating the calander for the most part. Are we willing to try this?'),(2381,'2b413d43f7','','Would we have invited Dontgetshot to the guild knowing his tendency to behave like this beforehand? Myself, I would have definitely said &quot;No thanks&quot;. Unfortunately now that we\'ve let him in the door we feel obligated to fix him! Well...I don\'t feel that obligation, rather. :) Maybe after two weeks I\'d be more partial to suggesting a guild member needs counsiling for a bad attitude.\r\n\r\nIt\'s a nice gesture on our part to allow these players to guild with us in our little video game playing club. If they don\'t have the concern to show the respect we deem neccessary during their probationary time, it\'s an excellent opportunity for us to say &quot;whoops, invite was sent prematurely to this particular random WoW player.&quot; and allow them to join a guild with less standards relating to their personality style.\r\n\r\nYa\'ll know I\'m not an advocate of counsiling players once you get an idea of their behavior. I don\'t believe he makes the grade. In my best british voice with Paula Abdule to my left and Randy to my right I say &quot;Dontgetshot, that was absolutely the worst and most miserable performance I\'ve seen all week. You don\'t have what it takes to become the next FSE Idol.&quot;'),(2382,'ee0a497002','','Wow, he has over 10k armor buffed? Unless he\'s counting the armor bonuses provided by plusses to defense rating I\'m freaking flabberghasted.'),(2383,'e9c87e5f93','','I kinda feel how Dread does.  I\'d rather fix people and offer second chances to people who have proven themselves.  It seems if you really wanted to be in the guild you would be on your &quot;best&quot; behavior during the tryout period.  If this is his best, then thanks but no thanks.  Maybe we could have Simon tell him goodbye.  Could I be Randy?  Yo Dawg!'),(2384,'e267799965','','FYI only gays watch American Idol.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nOMG THEY\'RE IN SEATTLE FOR TRYOUTS THIS YEAR....\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n....'),(2385,'e44278c1cd','Rosalinda\'s Application','[b:e44278c1cd]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:e44278c1cd] My husband lock (Viktor) went with you guys yesterday ( Saturday  Sept 23 , 2006 ) in Zg half of the time he was playing but had to go to the market to get stuff and he passed the game to me while he was out. From what I have seen you guys listen to each other and knw what to do and have crowd control on the raid which I liked it very much. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Character Class/Style:[/b:e44278c1cd]  lvl 60 Undead Priest \r\n\r\nShadow Priest as for now \r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Talent Build:[/b:e44278c1cd]  22 Discipline /29 Shadow (currently using it as for PvP but it no big deal if I go back to holy and disc)\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Gear:[/b:e44278c1cd]  Champion set main gear all I did is PvP , I have few of my devout sets (  sandals, waist, gloves, helm, upgraded Vituous bracers, ZG set (few) (bracers, currently working to get shoulders I have the quest item but lack of rep also have the waist from  quest 5 head channelers) Weapon: I have 1 mace only increase healing, but currently using fang of Venoxis, Rings: Band of Servitude &amp; Don mauricos band. \r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]MC Attuned:[/b:e44278c1cd]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]BWL Attuned:[/b:e44278c1cd]  No\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Onyxia keyed:[/b:e44278c1cd]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Sponsor:[/b:e44278c1cd]  \r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:e44278c1cd]  Pacific time \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNote: \r\nI\'m alsmost 4 months pregnant  and usually thats one of the reasons I dont play as much, other reason is I stay home with my 2 years girl so I mostly have to spend time with her, do chores and spend time with my little girl again and that takes most of my time =( not that I am complaining I love my little girl  =P but I do sometimes want little 3 mins break for my self . Also If I am not online in the game I can be reach at my AIM messenger name goes by mazi4682 always online =P\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]What raid experience do you have?[/b:e44278c1cd]  MC \r\nlittle bit of AQ 20\r\nZG\r\nOnyxia ( experience as a hunter (alliance side) if thats counted)\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:e44278c1cd]   lvl 20-40 Reapers\r\nreason why left: Too much drama, not alot of activity was going on and alot of jerks and aholes\r\n\r\nlvl 55-60 Dark Hand of Justice \r\nleft: didnt not like DKP system and some ppl\r\n\r\nlvl 60 Clothing Optional \r\nleft: too many  ppl  using of a word &quot;mother fucke&quot; over the vent while  my 2 yrs old daughter is sitting/playing hear the vent, I asked them  nicely and polite to stop and that I didnt want my 2 years old to learn her vocabulary from ppl, shes only 2 =P but they acted that I complain too much all I ask was a little respect but didnt get it. Also they priotize locks and mages over priest for healing/dmg gears, they said priests only need to do is heal =P to make the story longer ask me =P I have more to add about CO guild but dont wanna make this longer. \r\n\r\nCurrently  lvl 60 Exodus - PvP guild \r\nHavent left yet, planning too cause I wanna brush up on my PvE get armor, get ready to get to lvl 70 when BC rolling in, Also I love playing with my husband who have 2 chars (feral druid Teitan and Viktor affliction/destruction lock both lvl 60)\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:e44278c1cd]  healer \r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:e44278c1cd]  2 years\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:e44278c1cd]  Enchanting ( 285) not an easy skill =( / Skinning (300)\r\n\r\ncurrently alts\r\nrouge\r\nmage\r\nwarrior\r\n\r\nbut I am having so much fun  playing as a priest class =P so barely play with those alts \r\n\r\n\r\n[b:e44278c1cd]What is your goal ingame?[/b:e44278c1cd]  I havent been on so much into the high end games (since I join my hubby\'s (this) server  PvP) that this game brings and I would like to experience it if I can =P. I would also like to help my self and the rest of the ppl I play with to get what they want/ best out of the game. But most of it have fun with the game and have fun with the ppl I play with.'),(2386,'7992308370','Viktor\'s Application','[b:7992308370]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:7992308370] I was with the FSE guild run in ZG (sept 23, 2006) yesterday. I play half of the time but had to run to the market but from what I have seen while wife was playing u guys knw what to do and ppl listen and I like that. good crowd control. \r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Character Class/Style:[/b:7992308370]  lvl 60 undead lock \r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Talent Build:[/b:7992308370]  affliction/destruction\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Gear:[/b:7992308370]  Flowing Ritual robe, few ZG set shoulder, bracers, working to get the robes I have the item but lack of rep. upgraded dreadmist bracers, working on the quest upgrade with my wife Rosalinda (lvl 60 Priest), few of my dreadmist armor and PvP old armor (lost rank need to get back to high rank so I can upgrade the other PvP armor) Weapon: Witchblade, my wife outrolled when Fang of venoxis drop from an Exodus run into ZG =D\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]MC Attuned:[/b:7992308370]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]BWL Attuned:[/b:7992308370]  No\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Onyxia keyed:[/b:7992308370]  No\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Sponsor:[/b:7992308370]  \r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:7992308370]  Pacific time\r\n\r\n\r\nNote: I work at the day time and dont come home around 5 pm so sometimes my wife plays my lock or druid (teitan)\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]What raid experience do you have?[/b:7992308370]  little of MC\r\nZG\r\nlittle of AQ 20\r\n\r\nmost of the times I play my druid for PvP but I do love my warlock tho and miss playin it thats why I am brushing up on my lock.\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:7992308370]  Devils of Kimon\r\nleft: not enough activity and active players\r\nReapers\r\nleft: bunch of drama and dkp points wasnt being tallied correctly\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:7992308370]  pretty much an AoEr\r\nI\'m pretty much always up to date in how many shards I have in my bag\r\nDPSer caster\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:7992308370]  2 years\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:7992308370]  Teitan - lvl 60  druid herbalism 315/miner 300 still trying to ask wife if we can find grps so I can learn how to smelt dark iron ore I have mats already =(\r\n\r\nViktor- lvl 60 lock herbalism 300/ Alchemy 300/ fishing 300 pretty much have everything except flasks reciepe, greater fire prot, other reciepes.\r\n\r\n[b:7992308370]What is your goal ingame?[/b:7992308370]  I would say what my wife said in her application. I would like to experience everything in this game has to offer. I would like to help my self to get what I want and at the same time help those ppl/players who I like to play with get what they want from the game too. But most importantly is have fun with the game and have fun with the ppl/players I play with.'),(2387,'2155f02fac','','I can also make these, now. \r\n\r\nHow many do we need/want for an attempt at the Panter boss?'),(2388,'61dd1c68a6','','Ok, ok...\r\n\r\nThis is a great application! I\'m starting to sort of get all nostalgic about the days when the application section only had troglodytes putting up &quot;cuz epix rules wtf yaya!&quot; stuff. \r\n\r\nA husband and wife combo, hard to go wrong there. Unless they were married by that weird mormon guy who was on the FBI\'s most wanted list top 5.'),(2389,'798eaafb19','','Holy crap. \r\n\r\nInvite!! Hell just froze over and I don\'t want it to thaw! Hallejuja! The Israelites! Look! A perfectly good saw!!'),(2390,'68bffd8426','','Invite'),(2391,'ad56c8e166','','Invite'),(2392,'ae8739a2bc','','Looks good, 2 weeks.'),(2393,'812ffe5c94','','Looks good, 2 weeks.'),(2394,'1c529acb5f','Brilliant Mana Oil','Do we have any enchanters that are friendly with ZG? If so this would be a great recipe to pick up for us healers. I have the mats for some if anyone can make plz let me know.'),(2395,'f6ec29713b','','Ooh oohh, Can I be Ryan?!?!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nZ out..'),(2396,'924c0931c8','','guilded 9/25 (will need forum access)'),(2397,'30cf9a30aa','','guilded 9/25 (will need forum access)'),(2398,'278673a3af','','Nashu is a good guy. PvP\'d with him quite a few times. Would be a good addition.'),(2399,'7b4408aed8','','Saturdays are the only days I can raid unless the weekday raids ever get knocked back a couple hours.'),(2400,'c3ba330fee','','Invited 9/25'),(2401,'0fe1a2a24d','More Access Needed Please','I just joined and have no access to anything. Can I get access please?\r\n\r\nThanks!'),(2402,'3c1608ff4a','','One must register first before i can give more access.  When people app as a vistor and not register i can\'t give them access so explain that they need to register for the site then not a prob two clicks and they have access'),(2403,'47318f2b8d','','I\'ll run with ya ladies if ya ever need a guy to fill in... look me up sometime'),(2404,'c368e3ec0a','','I dont mind the idea of doing the weekend raids after dinner so around 6:00 (I dont know if this would be a popular idea or not or if we like having  a time diffenent then the weekday raids)....Thanks for all your input so far keep it comming'),(2405,'0520bb3a7a','','thats what im here for...'),(2406,'4261b8aa51','','I know that Turtle/Farwell/Uda can make some of the weapon oils, not sure which ones he has though.'),(2407,'e9188b2b3c','','i would say saturday night around like 7:30pm would be awsome'),(2408,'a4a164dd39','Optimus Prime makes you cry today.','http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwyckN2qUX4'),(2409,'eab86a1204','Never Ending Story part 4 trailer','http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVFw5ux_Iw\r\n\r\n\r\nI like the Gamora part, myself.'),(2410,'af2dc8a784','That\'s some good rainbow.','http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crtZgZtFho4'),(2411,'e00cebb878','Robot Chicken','It\'s an ok one.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUAFMSjmaA'),(2412,'69434bd1be','Snuggles is so soft.','http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5ClFJyOc0'),(2413,'e87a590dc6','','Cuddles is soft, so soft.\r\n\r\n&quot;This is a no-no, a big no-no&quot;\r\n\r\nThat\'s very funny.'),(2414,'ae946c8b9b','step in step with dread adn temblor','I to value temblors opinion.  He is not one to fly off the handle and create this thread out of bordum.  If temblor went to the trouble to write about it (cause we all know he is a lazy bastard) it must have been pretty bad.  \r\n\r\nI say its time to dust off the old sledge and let dreadwind finally have his turn at bat and swing away on the noob and his disrespectful attitude.  It is a good time to humble him and send his ass walking down the road.  If one can\'t have some basic respect and patience for a pug, then they shouldn\'t be flying the FSE colors.  \r\n\r\nGranted I don\'t know him from adam, but if he is already on Temblors shit list, he is surely flying up the ranks in others lists.'),(2415,'7ea6f2626a','','uhhhhhhhh what can i say I am scared'),(2416,'6836771683','','So sad\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2417,'5472a3d0c3','','&quot;Say my name...&quot; *smack*\r\n\r\nLOL funny shit\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2418,'3ea2c902a8','Dreadwind is bored.','If you can\'t tell, look at all the new topics on today\'s forum :) \r\n\r\nI\'m heading over to the Onyxia server and making a player named Baeloc.  Come find me if you can! (alliance side)'),(2419,'24eb2b200b','','Actually I\'m going with Jyggle, the Human Warrior.'),(2420,'1e8d1a1fda','','I am Pynky the gnome rogue.'),(2421,'aebd1efb57','','I\'ll be on Alleria as Dreadnok my 32 warrior. Got some old Everquest friends there to guide my rate of slay with their shiny noses.\r\n\r\nWell..that\'s if I\'m playing. Now, if anyone would like to join me though I also have a 19 night elf hunter on Twisting Nether. A very appealing server because it\'s labeled role play (And that label absolutely terrifies wtf pwn types, so you get more clear communication and less retardation.). The hunter\'s name is Efalindrahn.\r\n\r\nI don\'t dare start a new character again. But I\'ll help someone catch up!\r\n\r\nFigured I\'d provide some fun youtube links that got a chuckle out of me for those who\'d log onto the website in hopes for some new posts. I\'m a big fan of Robot Chicken and Family Guy. Optimus Prime singing Johnny Cash as he remembers the old days of the first season of Transformers and his dead friends Ironhide, Brawn, and random dude is magnificent too.'),(2422,'e11a88feae','','The horrible things that happen when our server goes down for an extended time.   Those movies were good, but they were no Charlie the Unicorn Goes to Candy Mountain...man I still love [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus]this video[/url].'),(2423,'896ae7fa90','','We all need to feel better with the server down.  This is what does it for me.\r\n\r\n[url=http://heartheartheart.ytmnd.com/]Baeloc singing[/url].'),(2425,'92edee5ed8','Rathdeort\'s Application','[b:92edee5ed8]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:92edee5ed8] See Ingame Goals\r\nOut of the people that I have grouped with, people from FSE seem to be cool and know how to play well.\r\n\r\nPLZ /w me in game if you would like more info\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Character Class/Style:[/b:92edee5ed8]  Priest / Actually enjoy healing...\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Talent Build:[/b:92edee5ed8]  Holy / Disc\r\nBenefits: Good heals\r\nDownfalls: Prone to frequent death because I attempt to keep everyone alive\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Gear:[/b:92edee5ed8]  Devout: Chest, Wrist, Belt, Feet\r\nMagisters: Head, Hands\r\nLegs: Abyssal Cloth Pants of Restoration\r\nTrinket: Second Wind, Blessed Prayer Beads\r\n\r\nThe rest of my gear is suxzors and held together with scotch tape.\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]MC Attuned:[/b:92edee5ed8]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]BWL Attuned:[/b:92edee5ed8]  No\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Onyxia keyed:[/b:92edee5ed8]  No\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Sponsor:[/b:92edee5ed8]  Spoke to Mesoko in game, said to app\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:92edee5ed8]  Currently: \r\nM,T,H,F - 5:00pm-11:30pm EST or 2:00pm-8:30pm Server Time\r\n\r\nWeekends: depends on what I have going on but usually after 8:00pm EST or 5:00 pm Server Time\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]What raid experience do you have?[/b:92edee5ed8]  100% noobsauce 0-60 in 1.5 months of free time \r\nZG a few times and UBRS pugs\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:92edee5ed8]  Currently a member of Reckless Demons, a casual guild that has mostly fallen apart due to people leaving when they hit 60\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:92edee5ed8]  Heal like crizy and hope someone pulls mobs off me before I die :)\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:92edee5ed8]  Since June 14, 2006 \r\nJust over 3 months\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:92edee5ed8]  Professions: I am a 120 tailor at the moment, but ill pick up whatever the guild needs.\r\n\r\nALTs: Dalmchd lvl 28 Mage allready in FSE, was my main but I got tired of &quot;ping ping  flame ouch ping ouch ping ouch flame, whew close one eat/drink - repeat&quot;\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:92edee5ed8]What is your goal ingame?[/b:92edee5ed8]  My goal is to experience endgame content (I live for the instances) and to become a better player. \r\n\r\nLoot is an added bonus, and I dont freak out when I lose.'),(2426,'db991d0afa','FORUM ACCESS','I would appreciate more access :o'),(2427,'c6626381fa','','Man we are the priest guild....this guy seems nice, perhaps noobish but I say yes if others want another priest. (it would be nice to know mesokos thoughts on him)'),(2428,'6b2c185c4f','','&lt;---- Still has very little forum access. :( \r\n\r\n /dissapointed\r\n /wrists'),(2429,'e6e6a4926c','','[quote:e6e6a4926c=\"Jatus\"]&lt;---- Still has very little forum access. :( \r\n\r\n /dissapointed\r\n /wrists[/quote:e6e6a4926c]\r\n\r\n\r\n/tar Jatus\r\n/soothe\r\n\r\nPoor Jatus needs some access. Help a gnome out.'),(2430,'8a40aa4425','Maireejaine\'s Application','[b:8a40aa4425]Why do you want to join FSE?[/b:8a40aa4425] You have some good players I have grouped with, and I really need an active guild.\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Character Class/Style:[/b:8a40aa4425]  Shaman/Restoration\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Talent Build:[/b:8a40aa4425]  5 elemental- all 5 pts in convection, reduces mana cost of shocks and lightening spells by 10%.\r\n\r\n5 enhancement- all 5 pts in ancestral knowledge which increases max mana by 5%... helpful for me as a healer.\r\n\r\n40 restoration- 5/5pts in improved healing wave- \r\nreduces cast time by.5 sec and makes my heals a lil quicker, 2/2 pts in improved reincarnation- i can reincarnate 20 mins sooner than normal and resurrect with 60% mana &amp; health instead of the usual 40%, 3/3 pts ancestral healing- when I critically heal someone their armor value is upped 25% for 15 secs, 2/3 pts nature\'s guidance- increased chance to hit with melee and spells by 2%, 5/5 pts healing focus- gives me 70% chance to avoid my heals being interrupted, 1/1 pts totemic mastery- my effective radius of totems is increased to 30yds, 2/3 healing grace- reduces my threat from heals by 10%, 5/5 pts restorative totems- effect of mana spring and healing stream totems are increased by 25%, 5/5pts tidal mastery- increased chance to crit with lightening or healings spells by 5%, 3/3 pts healing way-my healing wave spells increase effect of other healing spells on target by 6% for 15 sec, 1/1 pts nature\'s swiftness- every 10 mins I can make a nature spell an instant cast which includes heals and can be very helpful, 5/5 pts purification- increases the effectiveness of my heal by 10%, 1/1 pts mana tide totem- my favorite totem!! every 5 mins I can put down a manatide totem which actually gives 290 mana every 3 secs.\r\n\r\nBasically, I\'m definitely built for healing. That makes me bad as a tank or even an off tank .. I\'m not that great at holding a lot of aggro. I\'m best at standing back, dropping totems and heals. \r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Gear:[/b:8a40aa4425]  head: horns of eranikus\r\nneck: hunter\'s insignia metal\r\nshoulder: *pauldrons of elements\r\nback: nightshade cloak of the owl\r\nchest: green dragonscale breastplate\r\nwrist: *bindings of elements\r\nhands: *gauntlets of elements\r\nwaist: *cord of elements\r\nlegs: green dragonscale leggings\r\nfeet: flamewalkers\r\nfinger: selenium loop of the whale, bloodclot ring\r\ntrinket: enamored water spirit, rune of the guard captain\r\n* I only have 4 pieces to my elemental set\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]MC Attuned:[/b:8a40aa4425]  Yes\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]BWL Attuned:[/b:8a40aa4425]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Onyxia keyed:[/b:8a40aa4425]  No\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Sponsor:[/b:8a40aa4425]  Shayme\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]What are your regular WoW play times?[/b:8a40aa4425]  any time T, W, Th\r\nThen anytime between 5am-5pm F, Sa, Su, M\r\n\r\nI work a graveyard shift so my hours can be weird.\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]What raid experience do you have?[/b:8a40aa4425]  Ubrs\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]What other guilds have you been part of and why did you leave them?[/b:8a40aa4425]  The Bad Touch- personal reasons and it had died out for the most part\r\nBehemoths- left when it died.\r\nFSE- had a disagreement with someone and wanted to restart TBT.\r\nVicious Vixens- currently dying out.\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]What role do you feel you fill in a raid/group setting?[/b:8a40aa4425]  Healer, Back up Healer\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]How long have you been playing WoW?[/b:8a40aa4425]  since Jan \'06\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]Professions or alts that you feel could help the guild?[/b:8a40aa4425]  Herb/Alch is my main profession...\r\nI have two low alts Bonbon 21 mage enchant/tailoring\r\nand Cixelsyd 18 rogue LW/skinning.\r\n\r\n\r\n[b:8a40aa4425]What is your goal ingame?[/b:8a40aa4425]  To advance, but mostly to enjoy doing so with good people and good players.'),(2431,'1fa3924e23','','No.  That is my final answer.   I don\'t want to reinvite problems back into the guild.'),(2432,'4898c50535','','LOL \r\n\r\nHad to go dig this out of the officer forums.  Here is a what happened when she /gquit last time and the person she chose to leave with.\r\n\r\nSo here\'s some screens (if it works) of the freakout and eventual /gquit by Xanar, Jtg and Marieejaine, figure that some of you would want to see it.\r\n\r\nThis whole thing started by me asking them to take their chat into a private channel.  Enjoy.\r\n\r\n[img:532:188:4898c50535]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5320/16zo1.jpg[/img:4898c50535]\r\n\r\nA this point they talked about a bunch of dumb crap, including Jtg saying &quot;I\'ve had a hard week with dealing with dumb bitches&quot;, as I pointed out to Udazhi, he\'s 14, he aint even had a shot at dealing with womens.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img:742:503:4898c50535]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1976/22su.jpg[/img:4898c50535]\r\n[img:737:499:4898c50535]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4769/34dl.jpg[/img:4898c50535]\r\n[img:736:498:4898c50535]http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7417/49bn.jpg[/img:4898c50535]\r\n[img:739:505:4898c50535]http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/296/59kg.jpg[/img:4898c50535]\r\n\r\nOh yeah, and I reported Jtg for his comment and was contacted by a GM about it :)'),(2433,'803b15f356','','Seems geniune enough and you can never have enough preists, I\'m sure that if we had an overload of priests there are some that wouldn\'t mind playing their alts, or some Shaman/Druid that wouldn\'t mind taking another role.\r\n\r\nYes for 2 weeks.'),(2434,'60a81395b3','','[quote:60a81395b3=\"Amalo\"][quote:60a81395b3=\"Jatus\"]&lt;---- Still has very little forum access. :( \r\n\r\n /dissapointed\r\n /wrists[/quote:60a81395b3]\r\n\r\n\r\n/tar Jatus\r\n/soothe\r\n\r\nPoor Jatus needs some access. Help a gnome out.[/quote:60a81395b3]\r\n\r\nI\'ll help a gnome out!\r\n\r\n/cast Arcane Power\r\n/script SpellStopCasting();\r\n/cast Presence of Mind\r\n/script SpellStopCasting();\r\n/cast Pyroblast'),(2435,'2f08767314','','Rockstars, all of em.  Yes vote.'),(2436,'79ed13ca9b','','&lt;3 Jatus'),(2437,'414ba3c563','ItemStats Addon Installed','I just wanted to let you know that I have installed another addon that you may like.\r\n\r\nIf you use the following code in a post:\r\n[code:1:414ba3c563]&#91;itemico&#93;Brutality Blade&#91;/itemico&#93;\r\n[/code:1:414ba3c563]\r\nyou would see: [itemico]Brutality Blade[/itemico]\r\n\r\nIf you use the following code in a post:\r\n[code:1:414ba3c563]&#91;item&#93;Brutality Blade&#91;/item&#93;[/code:1:414ba3c563]\r\nyou would see: [item]Brutality Blade[/item]\r\n\r\nOr just use the ITEM/ITEMICO buttons on the posting page when making a post.\r\n\r\nAnd if you put your mouse over either one, it will show you the stats of that item.  All stats are pulled from Allakhazam.\r\n\r\n\r\n-Enjoy'),(2438,'5ea9ab0ad7','Calander','With all the new guildies and the focus moving toward MC when should I schedule the first mc raid...I have never ran it so I dont know if you need 40 people on the dot or if 30 some up are fine for first few bosses. I personally would like as much advice on how to accomidate so many guildies with a good schedule. (I know a lot of people are very interested in both mc and the 20 mans) so if I should schedule more then three days a week let me know and we should prob just make sure an officer can make the raid to do the dkp and run it fse style.\r\nGreat job guys on putting all of zg excluding hakkar on farm status (I have a perosnal goal of saying the same about aq so down the road Im sure we will make that happen)\r\nPlease reply to this or get on vent with me if you have advice or thoughts'),(2439,'1ba20c9d6b','','Thanks a ton Gricham.  Have always wondered how others in forums I\'ve seen used that.  Really appreciate the work you\'ve done and apparently still do :)'),(2440,'d52c9c306c','','[item]will of arlokk[/item]\r\n\r\nMan I suck  I wanted to see if I could get it to work but I was never good at this stuff'),(2441,'cd74d759d2','','Thanks Grich, cool feature.\r\n\r\n...that I cant seem to get to work right :( \r\n\r\nGo go gadget \r\n[itemico]Band Of Servitude[/itemico]'),(2446,'7027d3f3bd','','im on onyxia also as an efl hunter named celin.'),(2447,'a1005ee3b6','','[quote:a1005ee3b6=\"Mardigan\"]im on onyxia also as an efl hunter named celin.[/quote:a1005ee3b6]\r\n\r\nWho\'s name he got by removing a letter from the name of his favorite singer.'),(2443,'9d8f2b1bc1','A guide for healers','Over the past few weeks I have talked to a few healers and realized perhaps not all our healers know how mana regeneration works and don’t have a strat to conserve their mana over the course of a boss fight. One thing you might want to consider is if you have a higher number of +healing gear it might be beneficial to use a spell that casts at least 2.5sec so you get your full +to healing (anything shorter then this you get a diminished return on your +healing) and cast lower ranked spells that cost less mana which increased your +healing ratio. I like to spam a very low cost healing touch spell that heals normally for 500-700 an I heal about 1100 to 1200 with it consistently. Now because this is a longer casting spell i always have it casting and i move if i don’t want it to go off to keep my self out of the five second rule if I don’t need to heal. \r\nFor those of you that don’t know what the five second rule is, it is a 5 second period after the casting of any spell where you generate almost no mana from spirit. So by stopping my cast unless i need it to go off I gain a lot more mana over then next few second where I will be faced with the choice of casting or not casting again. \r\nNow if you are a healer that finds themselves in the 5 second rule a lot and don’t think you will be able to get out of it then mana over 5 second gear is for you. This gives you mana regardless of the 5 second rule (if you want it or not). \r\nI hope this post is helpful and I didn’t always have a casting strategy and didn’t always realize how all of this worked (so I thought I would share). So with all our new healers I just wanted to make sure that everyone understood this stuff. Give me a msg in game or ask questions here if you want more information about healing efficiency and practicality.'),(2444,'77c29c6fe4','','one more note i want people to know i do use lots of dots and if the need is there I definitly cast my bigger healing spells...but for a good portion of the fights the strategy above works well for me (dots do get 100% of your +healing bonus if they go over 12 secs)'),(2445,'f8194edcbb','','Fixed.  It was a problem with Allakhazam.'),(2448,'877c3dc981','','[itemico]Panther Hide Sack[/itemico] ftw\r\n\r\nThanks Gricham.'),(2449,'a0ea04cfc2','','Nice sack.'),(2450,'4204f4a7fd','','do we even need to discuss?  once you get cancer cut out, why would you ever ask to have it again?'),(2451,'94bb30e45b','','did he really just say that? :twisted:'),(2452,'5588204645','Woot!!','[itemico]Bloodlord\'s Defender[/itemico]\r\n\r\n :mrgreen: \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2453,'6554a10cdb','','[quote=&quot;Baeloc&quot;]LOL \r\n\r\nHad to go dig this out of the officer forums.  Here is a what happened when she /gquit last time and the person she chose to leave with.\r\n\r\nSo here\'s some screens (if it works) of the freakout and eventual /gquit by Xanar, Jtg and Marieejaine, figure that some of you would want to see it.\r\n\r\nThis whole thing started by me asking them to take their chat into a private channel.  Enjoy.\r\n\r\n[img:532:188:6554a10cdb]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5320/16zo1.jpg[/img:6554a10cdb]\r\n\r\nA this point they talked about a bunch of dumb crap, including Jtg saying &quot;I\'ve had a hard week with dealing with dumb bitches&quot;, as I pointed out to Udazhi, he\'s 14, he aint even had a shot at dealing with womens.\r\n\r\n\r\n[img:742:503:6554a10cdb]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1976/22su.jpg[/img:6554a10cdb]\r\n[img:737:499:6554a10cdb]http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4769/34dl.jpg[/img:6554a10cdb]\r\n[img:736:498:6554a10cdb]http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7417/49bn.jpg[/img:6554a10cdb]\r\n[img:739:505:6554a10cdb]http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/296/59kg.jpg[/img:6554a10cdb]\r\n\r\nOh yeah, and I reported Jtg for his comment and was contacted by a GM about it :)[/quote]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI just love this one, Im sooo glad you kept it!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2454,'35404f33fb','','And why the hell dont my quotes work right.\r\n\r\n\r\nz'),(2455,'ae270eb438','','Mp5  is great but as a certain druid has said its about down time to get benefit so spam healing hurts if you are heavy Mp5 (as i once was).  Why I changed was simple if a fight is not mega long  ( raid boss like)  Mp5 is not used very often or at all.  Plus to healing is what i switched to for now all of what Shach said was spot on but one thing that also is supa huge is (at least till expansion they say) is rank lowering your heals its what i do its huge  instead of casting a rank 7 spell i cast a rank 4 it costs less that half the mana and i still get HUGE heals because of my plus to healing.  It\'s hard to get used to but its the best for me now.  At expansion they are gonna start balancing  +heals to level of heals i guess below level 5 is what i have read.  So there is my two cents on heals and the likes.'),(2456,'843d0bf5f5','','You dah Man Grich\r\n\r\n\r\n[itemico]heavy runecloth bandage[/itemico]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nJust so every Rogue is ready for MC'),(2457,'2389b7802e','','Two weeks starts 9/28'),(2458,'22409174e7','Suggested preperations for Hakkar','I know most of our guild at this point is not using a threat meter. Because of Hakkars mind control and the need for three tanks using one really helps. We dont want hakkar pulled into the group by a clothie after a aggro wipe. You can download it at:\r\nhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3488-1-klhthreatmeter.html\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI find it also helps if most of us have an idea of what to expect from the fight here is a good link to review the strat:\r\nhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Hakkar_the_Soulflayer\r\n\r\nGet excited we are doing great'),(2459,'2ae98ec9df','','Ummmmm when I joined you must have forgot to give me the flyers and secret handshakes....if you could just go ahead and hook me up with those that would be great!'),(2460,'fc1b009de3','','I run klhthreatmeter and I always have 1 eye on it. It is very helpful especially once we start jumping into MC.'),(2461,'9db78a2fc1','','Invited on 9/29'),(2462,'4d401539b8','','That\'s why they\'re secret Zeph, you\'re the ONLY one who doesn\'t now.  They wouldn\'t be very secrety if we told you would they?\r\n\r\nWe have other things, I mean what about Breakfast at Tiffany\'s? :)'),(2463,'8aea395e0a','','This young girl\'s mind is shrouded in a need to create negative drama painted in a trailer courtish hue of Yellowish...greenish...brown (or the shade of the hazy fog-like depiction of odor that emenated from nerve endings in Ren and Stimpy\'s tooth faerie episode). \r\n\r\nWhile a member, she felt the strongest kinship with ex members who only knew how to create an air of juvenile detention center lunchroom flavor. \r\n\r\nI told her the applicaton was denied due to the incident recorded in logs and her guild recruitment message that was created after that incident which referred to FSE officers as being stuck-up and unwilling to listen to problems. \r\n\r\nLong story short &quot;Yuck.&quot;. I wouldn\'t be surprised if she was concocting a dramatic message board retort to respond to the denial, as I see she\'s currently lurking the board.'),(2464,'2dfe923d67','Interesting example of a DKP tracker/calendar...thingy.','http://toh.dkpsystem.com/news.php\r\n\r\n\r\nYou click on a date in the calendar and sign up. Sets up a waiting list and everything.'),(2465,'ca7ed1e9bf','','OMG!!! I had to comment this! Can\'t believe she thinks she would even have a chance to come back! Hahaha... dumbass! \r\n\r\nP.S. Hey everyone Gor and I will be back soon! Winter is about here and Nothing to do but play WoW! And we want to be ready for when the expansion comes out=)\r\nThanks for not kicking us out=)\r\nYou all RAWK! =)'),(2466,'f1d9c730a3','Hakkar','http://www.wowwiki.com/Hakkar_the_Soulflayer\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nThis link takes you to the Wowwiki summary of the traits Hakkar has and the common method for taking him down.'),(2467,'e2881c1f04','SC Strat &quot;Twins&quot; Fight','Hey everyone. I\'m getting close to Finishing my .5 quests, and I\'m at the twins. I was gonna post and see who all needs to kill the twins in SC Stratholme. Even if you dont need them for the quest they drops some phat caster and tank loots. Please post if youre interested. :)'),(2468,'d9c9c8b4ad','','I\'m in for helping on this run.  Anyone else?'),(2469,'ad8fa88ee1','','It seems like we\'d need 40 or as close to it as possible.  This still seems a ways off but is something I think we mostly agree that we\'d like to get to.  So long as we\'re keeping an eye on who we\'re letting in.'),(2470,'0403f8b2f7','Initial thoughts on some of the new people','For the most part I think that Meshach and others recruiting have brought in some quality people.  Nashu/Raeldrli, Rosalinda and Viktor, Rukthu-whatsamacall it warlock guy, and some of the others seem like they\'re learning and not so bad to be around.\r\n\r\nI do have a couple people that frequently causing me to grind my teeth and bite my toungue though.  Just wanted to put this here in case we need to start the process of who ISN\'T doing so well in FSE.  \r\n\r\nI know we already have Mesoko for our cheering squad and who can be kinda annoying but he has his moments (what those are, I don\'t know for sure).  I think one of him can help keep it light at times, but we add some others that are trying to compete with him for his role and I want to run my hand through a jigsaw to stop the pain.\r\n\r\nWhere was I going with this?  Yes, anyone else feeling it\'s time to separate the good from the annoying in our latest FSE recruiting class?'),(2471,'cf2e237635','Hakkar training and a raid idea','Well, Hakkar had his way with us and deflowered our something that used to have a flower on it.\r\n\r\nThis boss fight is rough for us for a couple reasons.  We have a lot of people who still are of the mentality that this is a boss fight like any other we have done.   \r\n\r\nHakkar can\'t be taunted for one, so our DPS chart watchers think they alone can still burn him down like all the other bosses they\'ve done and the tank can have some special power to save their asses.\r\n\r\nWe also need to be able to perform the strat pretty much flawlessly for almost 10 minutes.  To get good at this we need to practice it and last longer than 2 or 3 minutes we currently are.  Most people haven\'t had a fight that lasts this long before and need to get a feel for it.  DPS-ers and healers get their tunnel vision and miss raid warnings and forget their first priority when theh sons of hakkar are pulled up.  I know I forget sometimes while I\'m healing that I also need to turn and get in the poison.\r\n\r\nI think that we should TRY the fight a few times with NO dps but the tanks fighting for aggro, the healers keepign the tanks up and ONLY pulling the sons up and getting poisoned.  We need to get really good at this part of the fight.  If we can stay alive for 10 minutes doing this portion of the strategy before he enrages, then it\'s a success and I think we would learn much more than trying to do the fight &quot;correctly&quot; and only lasting 3 min and 45 seconds.  Once we can show we can survive long enough, then start opening up the dps and downing this feathery snake guy.\r\n\r\nWhat do you all think?\r\n\r\nSecond of all, does anyone else feel that people posting the damage charts is making it harder for the tanks/healers to do their jobs?  It seems like as people try to compare how much dps they\'re doing and climb to that prestigeous #1 spot, we\'re getting silly deaths and aggro pulls that we don\'t need...maybe even wipes at times?  I dunno..it may be just because I want to be #1 and my jealous nature talking here.  I\'m all for keeping it fun but it seems like people may forget to play smart sometimes as they worship the damage meter.'),(2472,'390357bd87','','Shawmen was a mistake, of course!'),(2473,'ea3a05acf6','','I would love to help and i do need something is sc strat'),(2474,'e8676a7a4b','','&quot;Where\'s Hakkar going?!&quot;'),(2475,'758d245e16','','I\'m up for helping, and I also would like something that drops in SC Strat: the new rank of food!\r\n\r\nhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Jarien_and_Sothos has information as to what to expect in this encounter.'),(2476,'92d78a3b56','','Yeah, I don\'t mind helping on stuff like this.  It all depends on my work schedule, which is a mess, and when it\'s planned.  :)'),(2477,'612b310fcb','','I will be happy to help ya just let me know when, can bring tank or priest.'),(2478,'fb66adaedb','','Oh, nice....'),(2479,'f1b74464ea','','I am down with that run. I have beat them, they are not that tough as long as you take them down in the right order.\r\n\r\nLook Kryos or Disenchantt up for help.\r\n\r\nRob'),(2480,'01c2b49edc','','One thing I will add to this, &gt;two mins before the fight begins everyone needs to take a Greater Shadow Protection Potion (GSPP) [url]http://www.wowwiki.com/Greater_Shadow_Protection_Potion[/url]\r\n\r\nafter that is burned take another, then after that is gone take another.\r\n\r\nThe fight will go on for close to 4 mins, you can get at least 3 GSPP in, that is and extra 6000 to 9000 HP per person.\r\n\r\nSo, I have made 26 GSPP, we will need at least 30 per run, soooo, if you have Grave Moss or Fadeleaf or Dreamfoil, please send to Kryos.\r\n\r\nEach GSPP needs, 4 Grave Moss, 4 Fadeleaf and 1 Dreamfoil, and the crystal vile.\r\n\r\nSeveral us would get two epics if this was completed.  \r\nThanks\r\nRob'),(2481,'bd02f653f6','','always up for strat.  3000k from exalted need all the AD rep i can, plus i have already done thetwins, so no what to expect.  granted it was kill a different twin on two runs and i was done, but it stillgot done.');
