I understand where you're coming from...

From the sound of it then lets just use these guys to get keyed for Kara and if we need an extra class or two when WE run it, or they need a guy here or there they can ask us when THEY run it but call off the joint guild cooperation thingy?   It'd just be another pool of players to call from instead of looking the the stupid LFG thingy or picking up JOe-dumbass who ends up ninjaing something and then shooting the spiderboss as he hearths out and yells &quot;Suckers!&quot;.  Sorry, flashback.

I know I can not get a group unless I spend 20+ minutes /msging every person who is of the class we need for a 5 man.  The only runs that I've been on that are successful are those that are primarily FSE or people I know.

If you don't want us having anything to do with these guys even in this 5 man regard, I think we're making a big mistake as it can only help us get ready for whatever comes next.

1-7 more players would be great, but even during peak times FSE is sometimes lacking the resources to put together a solid group of people doing 5 man stuff, let alone heroics without it feeling like it's doomed from the start.

I dunno, I'm going to be gone for most of the next several days and through the weekend so whatever will be, will be.  If we want to work with these guys or not, we should get back to them so we don't look rude.  They have been courteous in every way and I don't want us to come across anything like NoCOW or some of the others we've dealt with.