I missed out on all the drama, to he is still ok in my book.  I think that we all learned a lot from our last forray into raiding as to what players are positive and what ones are not.  I have no doubt we will be able to run the 25 man stuff with a good group, we simply need to be selective and Everyone needs to be engaging with the new players to make them feel welcome, as well as learn thier style and let them learn ours so that we can fairly determine if there is a mesh or not.  I think we need to continue to push for people over 20 as they seem to have a greater understanding of working together and not simply have &quot;user&quot; mentality.  I would like to get people i would actually like to hang with in real life.  Understandably not everyone is as freindly or outgoing as Zuwani, or masema, but then again they have to be able to put together a few sentences and actually have a clue to not only thier class, but to how to interact with others.