I got something to add that I think may have caused the wipe when we got him down to 8%. When ranged moves over to shoot the mage(krosh) we need to be real carful about not removing his shield that seine is spell stealing becuase he cant tank without it. I remember this is why seine died and the only thing I can think that may have removed it is perhaps arcane shot. So if we have hunters shooting him make sure not to use arcane shot.