yes vista is a Big turd.  I upgraded to vista with the hope of better security, and was miserably dissappointed.  In the end i had to reformat and went back to XP.  It is opperating smooth, faster, and clean as a missionary.  it is  better than wiping the mind of R2, as it shows no hidden memories of the pain vista caused or of the hurtful virus programs some douche attached to one of the fine &quot;artistic images&quot; gazed upon in the art house known as the web.