I just want to post a little story which happened on a PUG run tonight I was involved in for udSTRAT.  I would suggest you be careful regarding your dealings with Theonekiller, a warrior, and Spyhunt, a hunter, both of the guild Clothing Optional.

I was grouped with these two as well as Ikthyace (also of CO) and Cangry.  We had a great run, and everyone seemed to be honest.  Up until the end.  The leader was Theonekiller, and he changed to master looter with the last boss, a loot option he hadn't used during the entire run up to that point.

Three items dropped off the final boss, including [Robes of the Exalted] [Dreadmist Leggings] &amp; [Gauntlets of Deftness].  I needed the Dreadmist, and nobody else spoke up quickly about needing the other two items so they were disenchanted, and the shards were kept, not rolled on as is fair and customary.

The kicker, though, is that when I spoke up again to say I NEED THE DREADMIST Theonekiller would only let me have them if I traded him a drop I won on a greed roll earlier in the instance, [Gauntlets of Valor], which are worth 150g.  He even went so far, as I was trying to find them in my inventory, to start counting down from three, meaning if I didn't pass the Gauntlets of Valor over I wouldn't receive the Dreadmist.  I finally found them and went ahead with the trade.  I have been running udSTRAT a lot lately for those leggings and I didn't want to lose them, 150g or not.  Plus, when he initially put the deal on the table I thought he was somewhat jokingly talking about the BoP gauntlets which dropped off the final boss, not something I had already won.

In addition, both Spyhunt and Theonekiller remained in the instance after everyone hearthed out, and I was the last to leave.  After I hearthed I was kicked from the party.  This makes me wonder if maybe something else may have dropped as well, possibly the mount (?), and they just kept that for themselves.

After this run I was talking to the other two who were in the group and found out one of them was kicked out of the party after saying &quot;WTF&quot; when Theonekiller forced me to trade those 150g gauntlets for my Dreadmist.  Oh, BOY!  Someone HONEST in this group?  Get rid of them PRONTO!

And to end it all, of course, Theonekiller was then seen in the trade channel selling those gauntlets he made me trade...

I've kept screenshots of most, if not all, of those conversations and I have also transcripted the converstaions into a Word document.  Just for the heck of it I'll post the transcript below.  Feel free to stop reading at this point if you're not interested in the discussion.  P means Party message, S means /Say message and the rest are /tells.  I'm also just about to post this information on the Clothing Optional site as well.  While I am ecstatic that I've finally finished out my Dreadmist set, it's really too bad it had to happen this way - I mean, it's the people who really make or break this game, not the items.

235023	P Ikthyace	we past the 45 min mark lets not wipe
235024	P Kraygien	Cangry has been Soulstoned
000005	To Cangry	I’ll hellfire on the next wave if that’s cool
000017	Cangry	its all good
000554	P Cangry	aoe the skeletons
000649	P Theonekiller	[Robes of the Exalted] [Dreadmist Leggings] [Gauntlets of Deftness]
000654	P Kraygien	Well that was quick.
000657	P Theonekiller	roll [Robes of the Exalted]
000701	P Kraygien	My legs!  ZOMG!
000701	P Cangry	pass
000703	P Ikthyace	heh guess
000711	P Cangry	m’out, good run guys
000723	P Theonekiller	ok imd if I de it all
000820	P Kraygien	deal  hehe
000829	P Ikthyace	WTF
[trade window opened]
000858	P Theonekiller	gloves
000900	S Ikthyace	heh
000911	S Theonekiller	3
000913	S Theonekiller	2
000916	S Theonekiller	1
000916	P Kraygien	I thought you meant gloves that dropped.
000920	P Kraygien	I don’t have those do I?
000924	P Theonekiller	no the valor gloves
000936	P Kraygien	I don’t have them…
000936	P Theonekiller	u won
000947	P Spyhunt	u won
000948	P Kraygien	I won [Magister’s Belt]
000956	P Theonekiller	yeah i am looking and u won them
001008	P Kraygien	Oh, I see them…
001010	P Theonekiller	dude i just scroled up
001013	P Kraygien	A greed roll, eh?
[found gloves in my inventory and placed them in the trade window]
001024	S Theonekiller	thx bro
001044		You receive loot:  [Dreadmist Leggings].
001234	To Ikthyace	That was kinda screwed up, eh?  Keeps the shards, wants the greed roll item…  Don’t think I’ll grp with him, or their guild anymore.
001252	Ikthyace	lol yeah
001316	Ikthyace	Mount didnt drop did it?
001336	To Ikthyace	nope
001341	Ikthyace	ok
001409	To Ikthyace	He kicked you?
001413	To Ikthyace	Wow…
001413	Ikthyace	yep
001427	To Ikthyace	I guess it could have dropped and I wouldn’t even know…
001436	Ikthyace	hafter he said trade and you cn have legging…I said WTF!  …he didn’t like that
001514	To Ikthyace	I was just kicked, too, so maybe something good DID drop though…
01516	Ikthyace	Now hes selling the Gauntlets
001530	To Ikthyace	I don’t doubt that a bit.
001550	To Ikthyace	Yup, I see that he is…
001625	To Ikthyace	They’re worth 150g as well.
001644	Ikthyace	lol Y did you trade him?
001730	To Theonekiller	yeah, been running that damn instance for my legs for way too long – wanted my legs more than anything else so I don’t have to run the instance anymore.  So, he kind of had me over a barrel.  And he knew it.
001816	Theonekiller	mt?
001943	To Ikthyace	yeah, been running that damn instance for my legs for way too long – wanted my legs more than anything else so I don’t have to run the instance anymore.  So, he kind of had me over a barrel.  And he knew it.
001956	Theonekiller	it was up to you
002007	Ikthyace	lol
002012	To Ikthyace	I just sent that last message to Theonekiller accidentally – oops!  Ah well, let me tell him off.
002025	Ikthyace	hehe funny
002030	To Ikthyace	Yup, and it was WRONG of you.  But I’ll post the information and let others decide.
002044	Ikthyace	MT again
002052	To Ikthyace	GOD, indeed.  Lol
002112	To Theonekiller	Yup, and it was WRONG of you.  But I’ll post the information and let others decide.
002122	Theonekiller	ok sorry
002124	To Ikthyace	yeah, he told me “I know, but it was your decision.”
002159	Ikthyace	wtf!
002216	To Theonekiller	And to make it right, well, that is YOUR decision. :)  Kept the shards, basically demanded something I won in a fair roll just for the 150g it was worth – not very upstanding.
002258	Theonekiller	welcome to my ignore list
002309	To Ikthyace	Yup, he’s not a very trustworthy guy I guess.  I told him:  “And to make it right, well, that is YOUR decision.  Kept the shards, basically demanded something I won in a fair roll just for the 150g is was worth – not very upstanding.”
002320	Theonekiller	and u took the deal it was your choice u didn’t have to so life gos on
002328	To Ikthyace	Now he says, Welcome to my ignore list”
003131	To Cangry	[Gauntlets of Valor]
003132	Spyhunt	dude if you had the chance I would say you probily would of done it
003155	Cangry	those are 150g?
003207	To Spyhunt	I absolutely would NEVER have done anyting like that.  I care about my honor far more than silly gp in the game.  :)
003215	To Cangry	Yes, they go for 150g in ah.
003228	To Cangry	He’s selling them in trade channel right now
003356	Spyhunt	whin it droped
003416	To Spyhunt	The cloth pants you mean?
003433	To Spyhunt	or the gauntlets…
003442	Cangry	where was that other CO guy during all this
003500	Spyhunt	voler
003540	To Cangry	STanding right there.  I’m talking to him about the situation now and he says L was “smart” and “he’d have done the same thing,” and he also said he think I would have as well.  WRONG…
003554	Spyhunt	you should be happy you won your leggings
003602	To Spyhunt	Well, that wouldn’t have been right, so good for you for making the right decision.  :)
003616	Cangry	well, i gotta be honest there’s not much i can do here, except raise the issue to his class leader or the guild master
003623	Spyhunt	how cares about the gloves
003624	Cangry	if i had stayed i would’ve objected
003626	Cangry	heavily
003640	Cangry	since i'm new to this guild, they might not even listen to me
003640	Spyhunt	and i think he needed them
003645	To Spyhunt	But being treated like that is just not proper.  But, nuf said, thanks for chatting with me about ti.
003652	Cangry	i hope you don’t think we’re all like that though :-/
003738	To Cangry	I hope not, I really do.  I copied the screen shots and hopefully I’ll follow through with posting the information.
003805	Cangry	i suggest you post it on our forums
003831	To Cangry	That might be a good idea, just Google for the site?
003840	Cangry	http://s9.invisionfree.com/clothing_optional
003842	Spyhunt	dude it was start of him if you have a chance to get money you should do everyone in the games like that     and if you dont like that go play a ally
003903	Spyhunt	smart*
003942	To Cangry	Now he says, “Dude it was smart of him if you have a chance to get money you should do everyone in the games like that   and if you don’t like that go play a ally.”
004001	To Cangry	Ty for the link.
004028	Cangry	no problem, i'm sorry he did that to you
004106	Cangry	the warrior CL i mean
004109	Cangry	i will talk to him about it
004119	To Spyhunt	Well, I work with a police department and deal with criminals all day long who make decision like unto those, so I understand there are a lot of people like that in this world.
004148	Cangry	i still recommend posting your screenshots and conversation with him and with spy
004203	To Cangry	Good idea, ty.
004251	To Cangry	and anything you feel like doing would be appreciated as well  :)
004307	Cangry	if asked about it i'll be honest, as i always am

Trade channel, just one example, he posted it several times:
002433	Theonekiller	WTS [Gauntlets of Valor] [Devout Bracers] pst