I think what you are touching on rath is the fse-ness of us.  We like to have a good balance for a run, but are perfectly willing to go with &quot;wipe&quot; group for the challenge of the task, enjoyment of the group, and to say we did it when you are not supposed to be able to.  I have run many instances with no aoe, and no tanks, using pets or shaman for the task.  sure it is ineffecient, and can be costly, but one of the most memerable runs i have is doing sc strat with no rouge or mage, and using preists mc to controll the croud.  

we might not hit the BC with 100 memebers, and all the gear you &quot;need&quot; to get stuff done, but as we keep showing, if we want to get something done, we will, its simply a matter of time, and getting our team work down.   

I believe if we get people to join who are basically good people and enjoy their class, they will play well, and when they don't, people will forgive them as they are nice people.  I would rather wipe repeatedly with friends, then clear smoothly with douche bags, Rabite anyone.