I typed up a big old long post last night in my drunken stupor around 3 am. I managed to hit some key on my keyboard that deleted it all, through a tirade, and passed out. Vexing, but probably a blessing...since drunken posts are never good.

Alts vs mains is one of the oldest MORPG debates there is, right up there with &quot;need before greed&quot;. It's much older than FSE is, and everyone of us should know how the debate turned out. The alts didn't rise up, as it's just been generally accepted that every member of a guild should have one character on an equal terms with the mains of the rest of the membership. This is most fair, as not every member of a guild can pop out multiple high level characters. One main to rule them all? For the most part, we all know who our mains already are. If I was online with Alphatrion and some super spell casting dagger dropped how could I roll against Dethe for that thing? Dreadwind would be looking down from his mansion window eating his lobster bisque thinking &quot;Alpha, you absolute scoundrel you!&quot;. 

(Because Dreadwind often talks like a pompous Brit)

On the same token, our alts should definitely always be available to step up and fill needed vacancies. Passing on equipment that will upgrade a main should not be a problem. Hell, most of us all have alts that are not wanting in the category of &quot;nice stuff&quot;. A lot of our alts are better geared and fancier looking than a good deal of our mains. 

Dreadwind's recieved a lot of protection spec loot, having had the benefit of being the only one along for the most part. I also passed on all dps type equipment for the most part, that I can remember. Sometimes when Zuwani was present, he deferred tanking items to me, even! Dreadwind's got some nice things, and he'll keep showing up to serve as an instrument to help make our butt kicking go as efficiently as possible, since it was YOUR guys' time that helped get him that strong. I know you all didn't raid with Dreadwind so he could get all pretty, then get parked. 

Dreadwind's a unique case, because all his protection gear of an upgradable type came from a 10 man raid, and the formula for a ten man raid requires only two tanks for the most part. Our consistent attendence from tanks was made up of Stonehooves and I for the most part. I have obtained for him some pvp equipment as well, because we're at the point where other warriors need to start tankin' to snag the plate stuff that's going to rot now.

If a ranged dps slot is sought for a raid (and in the future, a healer if I get brave and go resto) Alphatrion will always be available. However, Alphatrion will never roll on an item that will upgrade a main present. Mains first, then comes the trickle-down for alts.

This doesn't bother me at all, I'm pretty lucky to have not just one, but TWO pimped out characters. I'm not poorer for letting a main go before me. 

Udazhi hit at the selfishness he's seen arise in the guild. I've not only seen it, but I'm probably as much to blame as anyone. This game is loot-based, and I've seen doctors throw the temper tantrums of 8 year olds in loot situations while playing these things. What really irks me is when people stop logging in because of something they deem &quot;not fun feeling&quot;. If Udazhi logged off and stopped hanging out with us, I have a good mind to think that there's a problem in the atmosphere.

In closing, until the other officers over-turn the motion, I'll want to see the idea of mains before alts held onto and practiced in every FSE raid. I hope we all enjoy playing with each other to be present with whichever of our instruments fits the situation best. The loot will come still, our secondary characters will not be lacking for chances at Karazhan loots. But we'll worry about everyone's primary characters first, I think.

Alphatrion just told me to screw off. :(