Ok, time for my 2 cents.  Which tends to ramble on and on...BUT IT IS IMPORTANT!

1) I agree with Baeloc, that it does not seem fair if someone has continually shown up and raided on scheduled raid nights and that 1 piece of loot that they have been waiting for finally drops and then someone's alt wins it.  But I honestly don't think anyone who is bringing their alts would roll on it if this person voiced their concern.  

I.E., Jamsheed with Legacy..., I know Jamsheed has been trying to get Legacy since we have started running Kara and I dont think anyone in our guild would have a problem not rolling on that item if it finally dropped.  I think one of the problems is those people who are trying to get a certain item (or maybe two) may not have voiced it with the rest of us so that we know that they have been trying to get this piece for a long time...

2) I have been bringing one of my alts, Veine, to the Kara runs so that we can get another Warrior geared up for tanking.  I know we have several Warriors that run Kara but (no hard feelings) there has only been one that has shown up consistently and spec'd for tanking, Dreadwind.  

I know that I have rolled on items with my warrior that other warriors needed also.  But until we have someone step up and say, yea, I will be the number 2 tank, and this person shows up, consistently for the runs, I am going to fill that spot with Veine...Heck knows I would rather be bringing my main &quot;Seine&quot;, who is part of the ever abundent dps class...  

If we ever wanna progress with our guild we are going to need to have more than one geared tank.  The same goes for healers, unfortunately these are the two classes that are the least played, but are the most essential...If someone who already has a geared tank or healer wants to give their spot to another tank or healer so that they can get geared, and then in turn bring an alt dps class, I have no problem with that.  

The problem lies, when we do not have that essential tank or healer spot filled and we still have people wanting to bring their dps alts...I also feel that no member of the guild would sacrifice a run just because they want to bring a certain toon.  But I dont feel like people with more than one toon should be punished for having options.  Geared alts give us the ability to progress through certain bosses, if we are having trouble with that boss with the current raid makeup. I.E. Illhoof, who needs a very specific few dps classes to do successfully.    

3) Our guild is a very casual raiding guild, you guyz have always said that.  I think I would be a little bit more concerned with the &quot;who needs it most&quot; loot process, if we were actually considering trying to progress our guild through some of the &quot;endgame&quot; raiding content. 

4) Which brings me to my fourth and most crucial thought!  I don't know about the rest of the FSE members, but I would like to see and try more of the &quot;endgame&quot; content.  I would also like to do this with the people I have been playing with for the past year or so...rather than join a new guild.  

I am proposing that our guild leaders, pick up their responsiblities a bit, and start organizing/recruiting, so that we can get 30 or so (consistent) players that are interested in doing some of the &quot;endgame&quot; content.  If there is a problem that the current leaders dont have the time or ability to do this, than I say we look at the structure of our leadership and maybe re-tool some of these essential parts.  

Don't take me wrong, I am not saying that us lowly members rebel and take over the guild.  But I think that if we looked at our current members that play (consistently) we could find 2 or 3 of us that would be willing to try and find new members and organize the current ones so that we can progress as a guild.  Yes, this probably means, sitting in town, and spamming, that FSE is recruiting...Yes, this probably means, doing PUG runs, to find out if these players are people that we would want to join the guild...But heck, if I am willing to do it, I feel like some of our current leadership should be willing to also...

You're talking crazy, Veine! FSE can't do &quot;ENDGAME CONTENT!&quot; 

Am I? 

It was not long ago that we had 20 members show up consistently to raid ZG and AQ.  This new content is only 5 more people than that!  I know we have had members leave WoW that are more than likely not coming back.  But I think there are still enough of us that would like to do this content so that FSE could make this possible.

So, now I turn to you...FSE members, please reply, voice your opinions, is my thinking way off, or is there enough of us that would like to see some of that content that has been beckoning me since TBC was released...

I am going to start a new post called &quot;Veine's crazy, or not?&quot;  Please post your replies in there so we don't ruin the fun filled arguement in this post!