First off Masema I find your &quot;get it now???&quot; offensive. I think you are looking at this all wrong most nights we can hardly get 10 to come to the raid and they are normally the same 15 people because of these 15 peopel we have now progressed to the prince which has gotten us a ton of epics over the last few weeks allowing us to do the earlier bosses easier and easier each time. Now if one of these people bring an alt that is well geared obviously they are in the raid because they are needed and liked. And you should be thanking them for the fact that they have helped gear up our guild so that we can get past Moroes and the Maden and that you have a shot at loot off of all kind of bosses. Not bitching at them for the opportunity they have created for you. This might not be the same scenario if we were a bigger guild that always had a long wait list each night, the fact is we are small guild and the only people that are going to fall into your catagory will be the same people that created your opportunity.