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-- Table structure for table `phpbb_login_attempts`
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-- Dumping data for table `phpbb_login_attempts`
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-- Table structure for table `phpbb_moderator_cache`
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--
-- Table structure for table `phpbb_mods`
--

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-- Dumping data for table `phpbb_mods`
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--
-- Table structure for table `phpbb_modules`
--

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INSERT INTO `phpbb_posts` VALUES (2,2,1,3,0,'206.26.221.139',1031716084,1,0,1,1,1,0,'yieldmap','Cedar Falls Show','I thought I would share some photos from the Cedar Falls, IA show.  \r\n\r\nTractors ranged from a Cockshutt 125 garden tractor to a 4-270 and everything in between.  What a great show.','',0,'','3po9n0mm',1,0,'',3,0,0),(3,3,1,5,0,'216.166.193.9',1031794680,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Tractor Production','What Oliver tractor was produced in the largest numbers?','',0,'','1275el3k',1,0,'',5,0,0),(4,3,1,67,0,'64.6.2.55',1031871504,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Interesting question.  I have heard varying opinoins--some say the 70, some say the 77.  The 70 was built longer, but I think it was probably the 77.  Interested to hear from someone who knows more.','',0,'','290iw19w',1,0,'',67,0,0),(5,4,1,7,0,'64.12.96.41',1031888586,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Summer Show Penfield, IL','Hey everyone, glad to see we are up and running again. Just wanted you to know that I am available for your contact in Penfield, IL for the 2003 HPOCA Summer Show. Let me know how I can help you. I will make every effort to keep you all up to date on the show here on the forum. Visit the club web site at <!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- w -->. John','',0,'','tjpshjc0',1,0,'',7,0,0),(6,5,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1031923165,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','just wanted to be one of the first! pull info?','this should be a nice site! any one know of any 12500 farm classes in ohio this fall?','',0,'','fd73kp07',1,0,'',13,0,0),(7,3,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1031924024,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','','the 770 was made for a long time. well into the 60&#039;s and maybe 70&#039;s. even after the 4 number seris came out. i guess 77 though.','',0,'','2biwv7ic',1,0,'',13,0,0),(8,6,1,14,0,'63.27.16.99',1031925393,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','Looks Good!','New site looks good.  Assume the intent for the posting times will be GMT?  Hopefully this one will become at least as busy as the Yesterday&#039;s Tractors forum.','',0,'','392di5cr',1,0,'',14,0,0),(9,6,1,7,0,'12.109.70.240',1031938210,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','I like the activity counter','Looks like a lot of people are surfing and not talking. Speak up, I can&#039;t hear you.','',0,'','1o929s67',1,0,'',7,0,0),(10,6,1,17,0,'216.93.69.221',1031979814,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','GMT time zone','GMT is the default time. If you would like to see posts in your local time, either select your time zone when you first register or edit your profile through your control panel after you log on.','',0,'','33ozpgba',1,0,'',17,0,0),(11,7,1,18,0,'207.102.215.58',1032023728,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Super 55','Super 55 and 66  swinging drawbar','Will a model 66 swinging drawbar fit a Super 55, are they the same part number?','',0,'','1o2obqy3',1,0,'',18,0,0),(12,7,1,18,0,'209.52.116.201',1032025681,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Super 55','','Called the dealer and found out the answer is no.\r\nI didn&#039;t think it would, but there was one listed on ebay and was just hoping.','',0,'','1i6dn112',1,0,'',18,0,0),(13,8,4,19,0,'65.163.209.129',1032027225,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Cletrac East','Penns Cave Show','Hi Everyone!\r\n It&#039;s great to see this site up and running. Looks good. With everyones participation , this should be the most lively Oliver and Cletrac discussion forum yet.\r\n   Thanks to everyone who made the HPOCA Secondary Show a booming success at Penns Cave, Centre Hall , PA. Nearly 300 beautiful Oliver, Hart-Parr and Cletrac tractors were exhibited there. Watch the upcoming HPOCA magazines for a full show report .','',0,'','kt7m2nxe',1,0,'',19,0,0),(14,9,1,13,0,'198.144.78.93',1032044417,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','help on 1st project please. oliver77','i have taken the radiater off and am cleaning the front of the frame. tractor steers fine when towed however i am gonna take the cover off the steering box. anything i should look for? what type oil goes in there? when did they offer power steering on olivers? thank you for your time, eric','',0,'','79yfgt3p',1,0,'',13,0,0),(15,9,1,8,0,'64.12.96.201',1032057971,1,0,1,1,1,0,'DWL2255','First project','','',0,'0','z7q79btx',1,0,'',8,0,0),(16,9,1,8,0,'64.12.96.201',1032058550,1,0,1,1,1,0,'DWL2255','First Project','The 77 Oliver has the easiest steering without power steering of any tractor. The steering gear is a return ball steering system and requires oil and not grease, I use 90 EP gear lube. Hope this helps. Delbert[color=Green:2sk6u9xd]Text Green[/color:2sk6u9xd]','',0,'Ag==','2sk6u9xd',1,0,'',8,0,0),(17,4,1,5,0,'216.166.192.26',1032131700,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Penfield show','John, I&#039;ve already planed my vacation around the Penfield show. Do you have any updates on coming to Knoxville in OCT.?  Jim','',0,'Ag==','1681t20s',1,0,'',5,0,0),(18,4,1,7,0,'63.250.73.157',1032139154,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Knoxville','Will be there the 5th and 6th. Don&#039;t know about the 12th and 13th. If you can get me any more info that would be great. Expect to be there early on Sat. unless you suggest Fri Night. John:)','',0,'Ag==','28t0me6z',1,0,'',7,0,0),(19,9,1,13,0,'198.144.76.227',1032144483,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','','thanks, i popped the cover off today before i read your post , lots of grease in there. any idea why it has a drain plug? least thats what it looks like below the cover i popped off in front of the engine. i did not try any take it out (the plug) do you have a 2255? dad has one we pull in se ohio.','',0,'Ag==','xjkt4v19',1,0,'',13,0,0),(20,4,1,5,0,'216.166.193.104',1032148416,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Knoxville','John, glad to hear you can make it. Sat. morning things don&#039;t start picking up until about 9:00, but of course there are always the ones who have to be first to everything ,so they will be around at 8. Come HUNGRY, the ladies in the tent will make breakfast, nearly anything you want. They will continue to cook throughout the weekend.  I&#039;ll get back to you with more details this week. If you have any specific questions, just ask. JIM T','',0,'Ag==','3vx7kay0',1,0,'',5,0,0),(21,4,1,23,0,'12.28.99.12',1032158701,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','','John, is there any plans on getting a national show in Wisconsin?  Jeff.','',0,'Ag==','18hk2d8c',1,0,'',23,0,0),(22,4,1,7,0,'12.109.70.240',1032181057,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','National show in Wisc','Jeff, I am relatively new to HPOCA. National Summer show site are decided a year to 2 years in advance. I am not sure about when there might be an appearance in Wisc. John','',0,'Ag==','3anefpn0',1,0,'',7,0,0),(23,10,3,14,0,'63.27.16.97',1032211200,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','Musuem In South Bend, IN?','I was wondering what the status of the discussions and/or actions on this was?  Last I heard, it was to be discussed at the National Show in Iowa.  Any info appreciated.  Thanks, dwm.','',0,'Ag==','1t4q3imw',1,0,'',14,0,0),(24,11,3,5,0,'216.166.193.85',1032217104,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','HPOCA Show','What does it take for a show to get to host the HPOCA show? Who decides, officers or board of directors? What are they looking for?','',0,'Ag==','3vccsfnb',1,0,'',5,0,0),(25,11,3,7,0,'152.163.188.161',1032230629,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Hosting the HPOCA Summer Show','There are several steps, but the first is getting to know and possibly joining the local HPOCA chapter. In your area, I would give Bill Meeker a call. I think he would be about as helpful as anyone. From there you will need the facilities to support the activities that the local chapter wants to have at the summer show. one of the biggest deals I saw as a problem was the need for a banquet facility to take care of 500 people. There is a questionaire/ application that will give you a lot of insight into what is needed. John','',0,'Ag==','12ocn28i',1,0,'',7,0,0),(26,4,1,7,0,'152.163.188.70',1032230995,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Raffle tractor','&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://www.antiquefarm.org/oliverraffletractor.jpg&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I&#039;ll be in Knoxville,IL Oct 5&amp;amp;6 and in Carlinville, IL Sept 21 &amp;amp; 22. John','',0,'Ag==','1om3o886',1,0,'',7,0,0),(27,10,3,26,0,'216.43.146.41',1032235944,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','','There will be a ballot included with the November/December issue.  Members are encouraged to vote on whether we should continue to pursue this venture or not.  If you would like to express your opinion, please e-mail the president at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oliver60@abingdon.net\">oliver60@abingdon.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,'Ag==','16av3nf1',1,0,'',26,0,0),(28,12,1,27,0,'164.214.4.59',1032265593,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Fred Zelch','Oliver 550 rear rim','Just bought a 550, I believe is a 61 model;\r\nIt needs a new rim on the rear. It is a 26 inch\r\nby 12 inch size. Were these also used on the combines?\r\nWill the combine wheel fit the bolt pattern of the 550?\r\nAny one have one for sale?:)','',0,'Ag==','3bj550je',1,0,'',27,0,0),(29,9,1,8,0,'205.188.208.104',1032313173,1,0,1,1,1,0,'DWL2255','','I had an early 2255 with the 3150 engine I bought new in 1973. The tractor was used 21 years and had the original rings when I retired and sold out my equipment. The tractor was on the early web site along with my tiptoe 70 with ratchet lift plow. A common mistake on the oliver steering of that type is to put grease in the gear box. I would think if you scraped as much of the grease out as you can and filled with ep 90 gear lube you would be in good shape. One problem though the oil may leak out the oil seal in the bottum of the box. Hope this helps. Delbert','',0,'Ag==','29rv34yo',1,0,'',8,0,0),(33,3,1,30,0,'209.50.4.228',1032331435,1,0,1,1,1,0,'B A Star','','The highest production model was the 70 Row Crop.  No other model comes close to it&#039;s number.','',0,'Ag==','143dq15e',1,0,'',30,0,0),(34,13,1,31,0,'64.19.92.194',1032352260,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bret','Oliver Disc Plow','Anyone have or know of a source for identifing a 3 bottom wheel lift Oliver Disc Plow? Need a picture really. I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s WW2 vintage. Thanks, Bret','',0,'Ag==','36h4igw5',1,0,'',31,0,0),(35,14,1,1261,0,'67.202.49.68',1032387820,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Barrie Ellwyn','Oliver 550 model changes','I attended and really enjoyed my first HPOAC meet in Cedar Falls a few weeks ago, but I came away with more questions regarding a 550 that I have.  It&#039;s serial # is 121433 (perhaps a mid-year 1962).  The tractor has a later model hood (no side indentations for the Oliver logo) and a fiberglass checkerboard grill.  Mr. Larry Gay&#039;s book &amp;quot;A Guide to Hart-Parr, Olliver .....&amp;quot; p 42 states &amp;quot;For the 1963 model year the 550 changed to a checkerboard style of grill&amp;quot;.  Do any of you know when Oliver would introduce a &amp;quot;Model Year&amp;quot;?  Is there any way to tell just what hood and grill this 550 should have?\r\nThanks,\r\nBarry-KC','',0,'Ag==','27xmf0cw',1,0,'',1261,0,0),(36,13,1,7,0,'64.12.96.46',1032399231,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Picture','From C.H. Wendel&#039;s book','',0,'Ag==','20h7t83x',1,0,'',7,0,0),(37,13,1,7,0,'64.12.96.46',1032399475,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','','','',0,'0','2zlmwf0s',1,0,'',7,0,0),(38,13,1,31,0,'64.19.93.141',1032462063,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bret','','Thanks- I&#039;ll have to look at the book.','',0,'Ag==','2eeqy3rq',1,0,'',31,0,0),(40,16,1,36,0,'64.12.96.41',1032638197,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RAD500','Oliver 500','Anyone have any info on a Oliver 500 made by David Brown?','',0,'Ag==','34hl17k2',1,0,'',36,0,0),(42,17,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1032808091,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','oliver 77 frame','what year did the 77 get the 3/4 inch threaded bolt holes in the frame? mine has five in the front. and quite a few down each side. does that make it a super 77?','',0,'Ag==','zmo6el01',1,0,'',13,0,0),(43,17,1,5,0,'216.166.193.36',1032831527,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','','Are the holes on flat &amp;quot;pads&amp;quot;? The pads on the front tub are the telltale signs of the Super series and later tractors.','',0,'Ag==','2udrlg6y',1,0,'',5,0,0),(44,16,1,35,0,'65.82.173.158',1032838124,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 500','The Oliver 500 was built by David Brown for Oliver beginning in 1960 and terminating in 1963. The 500 was offered in both gasoline and diesel versions. The 154 cu in. engine was rated at approx 30hp . Weight 3750 lbs. My neighbor bought a 500 diesel in 1962 and his son still uses it for mowing.','',0,'Ag==','2p05hlia',1,0,'',35,0,0),(45,17,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1032866687,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','','','',0,'0','2otsfv5y',1,0,'',13,0,0),(46,17,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1032866880,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','','yes the holes are in a &amp;quot;pad&amp;quot; or flat section of the frame, which extends outward from the rest of the frame. cool ! what year did the supers come out?','',0,'Ag==','9vu8qztg',1,0,'',13,0,0),(47,16,1,36,0,'64.12.96.46',1032867451,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RAD500','','I have the Diesel version and the tractor is in very good shape. It needs some gaskets and seals. Every Oliver show I attend there is never a Oliver 500 hopefully I have a rare one. My father and myself sold Olivers in the early 60&#039;s.','',0,'Ag==','2k7bbs54',1,0,'',36,0,0),(48,18,1,24,0,'205.188.208.74',1032892557,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Brian','useable 9-32 tires for sale','I have a pair of useable 9-32 Firestone tires for sale near Des Moines IA. The tractor they came off spent the last 32 years inside up on blocks. They are weather cracked, but when new tires are $300 each, these are a bargain at $75 for the pair. Email me at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:AlsChlmers@aol.com\">AlsChlmers@aol.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'Ag==','25gi8wza',1,0,'',24,0,0),(49,17,1,11,0,'209.240.212.227',1032916397,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Kienecorner','Oliver 77 frame','Only if it is a row crop. The standard models had flat pads.','',0,'Ag==','16hxq4yc',1,0,'',11,0,0),(51,12,1,37,0,'68.155.5.6',1032918317,1,0,1,1,1,0,'george steadman','rim','The rims off of an Allis will work or some from the 8 lug combines should work. I have a set of 26 they are wider. If I had to buy I would look for a set of 28&amp;quot; the tires are a bunch cheaper.','',0,'Ag==','32puspm7',1,0,'',37,0,0),(52,5,1,37,0,'68.155.5.6',1032918699,1,0,1,1,1,0,'george steadman','pulls','Don&#039;t know about Ohio but on Sept. 28 and oct. 12 the Central Ky farm pullers are running classes are 55,65,85 ant 6500-8500 farm stock then 10,12,14,16,18000 farm also 5800 pro stock truck. pulls are at the Taylor county fairgrounds.','',0,'Ag==','2lfx3gj6',1,0,'',37,0,0),(53,16,1,35,0,'67.34.168.40',1032922154,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 500','Rad\r\nI think you do have a rare tractor. My relatives were Oliver dealers on a small scale during the 50&#039;s and early 60&#039;s. The 500 that I referred too is the only one that was sold in our area. There were 4or 5 600&#039;s sold. I have never seen a gas version.','',0,'Ag==','3hro7zii',1,0,'',35,0,0),(54,16,1,38,0,'192.76.82.90',1032978700,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Ben Stephens','','I am looking at buying a 500.  Where can one find parts if it is rare ?','',0,'Ag==','3bmvu66j',1,0,'',38,0,0),(55,16,1,35,0,'65.82.175.31',1032998358,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','500 parts','The 500 is similiar to some of the David Browns shipped to this country in the mid to late sixties. However several of the DBs were three cylinder. My friend overhauled onea 500 last summer and rebuilt hydralic system and he had no trouble getting parts. I have heard that the 1250 made by Fiat is very difficult to obtain parts.','',0,'Ag==','39he8dgz',1,0,'',35,0,0),(56,16,1,36,0,'205.188.209.168',1033041079,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RAD500','','The Oliver 500 was made by David Brown in England from 1960 to 63. The David Brown 850 is the same model as the 500. When looking for engine parts just tell them its for a 850 DB.','',0,'Ag==','3j1sevof',1,0,'',36,0,0),(57,19,4,5,0,'216.166.193.130',1033085660,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Cletrac','What is the RAREST cletrac, how many (few) made, and does anyone have a picture to share?   oleblu:D','',0,'Ag==','3jfnjqig',1,0,'',5,0,0),(58,20,1,13,0,'10.140.148.63',1033135265,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mr2255','oliver 77 thermostat and how to ID a super series','two subjects:\r\ni took off the question mark shaped  elbow that holds the thermostat. now how do i get the thermostat out w/o damage to the thermostat?  its &amp;quot;stuck.&amp;quot; how do i know if the thermostat is good or not? there is a big hole into the block and a small hole for the h2o. where do they go and why two holes? am i right that this is where hot h2o returns to the radiator? is the big hole from the block and the small hole from the head?\r\ni have asked similar question before on this site. what is the easiest way to determine if a rusted up repainted (with a brush) fleetline is a super 77 or not. mine is a row crop gas with the 3/4 inch threaded bolt holes in the frame pads. is that all i need to be sure? what is the bore  and rpm difference between a 77 and a super?','',0,'Ag==','o5s16jow',1,0,'',13,0,0),(59,14,1,35,0,'67.34.172.181',1033346793,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 550','The last serial for the 1962 models was 123699 which makes yours one of the late models. I guess the late 62&#039;s could have been changed to the new appearance. The pictorial book by P.A. Letourneau shows a 1962 Oliver with the checker board grill on p61,62. The tractor has the plastic oval over the grill that spells Oliver. I think about 1963 this plastic oval was replaced by a metal oval with just an Oliver emblem','',0,'Ag==','2upg6cf2',1,0,'',35,0,0),(60,19,4,19,0,'205.188.208.133',1033581307,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Cletrac East','','','',0,'0','2gaqzmgg',1,0,'',19,0,0),(61,19,4,19,0,'205.188.208.133',1033581775,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Cletrac East',' Cletrac','The rarest Cletrac is the model 100, built in the late 1920&#039;s. 1oo units were built. Less than 6 are known today.','',0,'Ag==','3qgdtkkv',1,0,'',19,0,0),(62,21,1,12,0,'209.240.212.6',1033675118,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Oliver Superior 64 drill','I hope someone can help me out! I need a complete transmission or parts for a model 64 grain drill. Does anyone know of any impelment salvage yards? Thanks, WB.','',0,'Ag==','37bob53t',1,0,'',12,0,0),(63,4,1,7,0,'205.188.208.104',1033952768,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Special License Plates','Every year the I&amp;amp;I Club has special event license plates made for the tractor show. With 2003 featuring HP-O, the question is how many would be interested in a set. The cost is $30 and we usually have 300 sets made. If there is enough demand we can get more made but we will have to know very soon. John','',0,'Ag==','uj77nplp',1,0,'',7,0,0),(64,22,1,43,0,'128.242.4.59',1033957933,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverdude','oliver #22 sickle mower','Does anyone know where I can find parts for my 22-A sickle mower.\r\nThanks','',0,'Ag==','2scz6a0p',1,0,'',43,0,0),(65,20,1,23,0,'12.28.99.189',1034066256,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','Oliver 77','Mr2255, can&#039;t help you on the thermostat question.  But about determining if it&#039;s a Super, the frame pads are an indication the frame is a super, you also should have disk brakes, newer style seat assembly without the bar in the back, and there should be a cover or hourmeter mounted under the distributor.','',0,'Ag==','35l2m9ct',1,0,'',23,0,0),(66,20,1,23,0,'12.28.99.189',1034066513,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','...also','also, the bore on a 77 is 3.3125 and on a super it is 3.5.  The rpm is the same between the two models.  Jeff.','',0,'Ag==','2wck8paj',1,0,'',23,0,0),(67,20,1,35,0,'67.34.172.222',1034215768,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','seat','Jeff\r\nI think they put some of the new seats on the late model original fleetlines. We owned a 1953 Oliver 66 with side curtains and the new style seat. I know the seat came on it since my folks were dealers.','',0,'Ag==','1p6u90z0',1,0,'',35,0,0),(68,20,1,23,0,'12.28.99.57',1034238299,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','77 seat','Frank, yes, all of the 1952 Fleetline tractors and newer had the Super style seat assembly.  If you&#039;ve noticed, they also had larger brake pedals than the earlier ones also.  Jeff.','',0,'Ag==','ugzlqwkk',1,0,'',23,0,0),(69,23,1,44,0,'64.12.96.41',1034299805,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Earthmaster1','60 industrial value','I&#039;m looking at buying an 1947 oliver 60 industial, with ware loader, trip style, supposed to run good, missing grill, not shure about side pannels, rest of tin is suppossed to be decent, decent tires, some dry cracks, has pto and no 3pt. what is an approx value, i don&#039;t want to pay to much. i dont think i want to sell it but i always like to figure if i ever do at least i can break even. well not counting my time. \r\n\r\nthanks in advance \r\n\r\nScott','',0,'Ag==','28dhuijz',1,0,'',44,0,0),(70,23,1,35,0,'216.76.155.161',1034385645,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','60 Ind','The value really depends on the condition of the tractor. The 60 Industrial can bring in excess of $3500 if it is in excellent condition. The decription that you gave sounds as if the value would fall in the $1000-1600 range. Add $200 for the loader. If the motor is bad the tractor may be worth $650.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'Ag==','1wm4ar6l',1,0,'',35,0,0),(71,4,1,7,0,'63.250.73.188',1034478469,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Summer Show Planning','Representative from the I&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor &amp;amp; Gas Engine Club, Hartland, and Midwest Oliver Collectors met today to make plans for the 2003 Summer show. It&#039;s going to be great so make plans to come now. <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->','',0,'Ag==','3denyyt0',1,0,'',7,0,0),(72,24,1,45,0,'216.93.38.204',1034644195,1,0,1,1,1,0,'billfrommich','source for oliver 60 grille?','Hello,\r\n I just bought a 1946 model 60 that needs a grille and radiator. I think that I found a place to recore the radiator but don&#039;t have any idea where to start lookng for a grille. Any help will be appreciated.\r\n                Thanks,\r\n                         Bill','',0,'Ag==','3mmyp50h',1,0,'',45,0,0),(73,24,1,35,0,'67.34.172.38',1034649013,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','60 grill','Try one of the following:\r\nRicks Agri Parts 330-264-9720\r\nKorves Oliver 618-939-6681\r\nMaibach 800-808-9934 ask for Tom\r\nHope this helps','',0,'Ag==','1cet3tua',1,0,'',35,0,0),(74,24,1,45,0,'216.93.38.54',1034722972,1,0,1,1,1,0,'billfrommich','','Thanks for the information Frank.\r\n\r\n  I&#039;m going to try and get this old Oliver looking halfway decent. \r\n My neighbor has Farmalls and a Ford and he came over today and just shook his head. Wait until next year when he needs a hand haying. This old Oliver might look a lot better.\r\n                Bill','',0,'Ag==','o6f7ygdu',1,0,'',45,0,0),(75,25,1,5,0,'216.166.193.154',1035254513,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Show Tractor','John (C-IL) Do you know what tractor will be featured at Pennfield during the HPOCA  Summer Show?  Any news on a 1/16 show model?   Thanks. Jim T','',0,'Ag==','2fpwv2rg',1,0,'',5,0,0),(76,25,1,7,0,'12.109.70.240',1035474282,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Feature Tractor','880 I Think','',0,'Ag==','34ofjjlv',1,0,'',7,0,0),(77,25,1,7,0,'64.12.96.46',1035509076,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','','I checked my notes when I got home, 880 will be the feature tractor. The banquet will be at the Hloiday Inn in Urbana. A block of rooms has been reserved for the show weekend. Urbana is about 30 miles from the show grounds. John','',0,'Ag==','22mkw64s',1,0,'',7,0,0),(78,4,1,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035584533,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I haven&#039;t heard anything about it. There will be one in South Dakota I believe. That is not so far from Wisconsin. Penfield is not far either. There has been some discussion of trying to have a show in Canada at some point in the future, probably will be discussed further after the border cools down some. Strange that collectors don&#039;t seem to be bothered much, they are tearing big trucks apart. Keep checking the calender in your magazine, or contact Larry Gay. If you want a Wisc. show present a package to Larry, or you can come to a HPOCA show and talk to him about it.','',0,'Ag==','fpl4s0im',1,0,'',47,0,0),(79,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035585575,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','South Bend','This is an enormously beneficial opportunity! It is the only Oliver facility left that is eligible for the various types of funding needed to restore, and operate it. These can be applied for from both private, and government sources. My research tell me that the political environment in South Bend would require an Oliver related organization of at least national scope to achieve what is needed. Politically, there is no middle of the road in South Bend, thus, they need us to keep the project out of local politics. Our costs should not exceed filing fees to create an entity to own the facility.','',0,'Ag==','tn7jstjd',1,0,'',47,0,0),(80,11,3,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035586141,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','First step','Contact Larry Gay, the Activity Committee Chairman, this is the first thing to do. Larry is in charge of presenting show candidates to the Board of Directors. His address and phone is listed with the committee chairs in the front of your copy of the Hart Parr Oliver Collector.','',0,'Ag==','gr46or4q',1,0,'',47,0,0),(82,3,1,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035588012,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Most & best','No doubt, the Oliver Cletrac HG-68, who would want a rubber tired tractor anyhow!!!','',0,'Ag==','1g30vd9q',1,0,'',47,0,0),(83,22,1,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035588417,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','such as?','',0,'Ag==','101mgo5n',1,0,'',47,0,0),(84,21,1,47,0,'67.241.135.41',1035588681,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Midway Repair Shop\r\n14400 Dover Rd.\r\nDalton, OH 44618\r\nAttn: Dan Miller','',0,'Ag==','2v25w8s9',1,0,'',47,0,0),(85,4,1,23,0,'12.28.99.120',1035683193,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','','Andy, I&#039;m gonna try to make it to the Penfield, IL show next year.  I was gonna try and make the Cedar Falls show this year but there was too much going on at the time, always seems to be that time of year.  This year we had Oliver year at our local Thresheree club.  We were busy hauling back the next week.  Being Oliver year, the club had a record number of tractors registered to pull, and that beat a 20 year old record.  And there were near 100 Oliver tractors in the feature row. \r\n\r\nAlthough I believe there are a lot of Oliver collectors in every state, I know if Wisconsin had a National Show it would be a good turnout.  I know a few Oliver collectors in Wisconsin, including us.  Also if there was one in WI, we would bring some of our more rare ones there.  Otherwise it&#039;s too far to go pulling a tractor or two.  I&#039;m just wondering if there is gonna be one in the future.  Thanks, Jeff.','',0,'Ag==','2lp36573',1,0,'',23,0,0),(86,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.75',1035735196,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','There will be an article in the next issue of the HPOCA magazine covering most of the details so far. Sherry tells me that it is at the printers now, so it should be in your mailboxes in the next couple of weeks.\r\n\r\nThe more people I talk to about this, the more resources that seem to pop up. I honestly think that getting the money is not going to be a problem if we have the support of the general membership. The worst thing that I can see happening is that we won&#039;t get the funds and the buildings and the opportunity will disappear forever.','',0,'Ag==','15qy0tf0',1,0,'',17,0,0),(87,4,1,47,0,'67.241.135.77',1035751599,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Too far?','&#039;Too far&#039; is not understandable terminology! I live in West Virginia, I go to California, Minnesota, Iowa, of course Ohio, PA, NY, KY, Indiana, Missouri, and other places. I don&#039;t travel much, other members travel more. This term &#039;too far&#039; is something I don&#039;t comprehend, would you explain?','',0,'Ag==','9pr8cw80',1,0,'',47,0,0),(88,6,1,47,0,'67.241.135.77',1035752414,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Date','Chris,\r\nHow about the date? On my computer it shows up in eastern european format. Day/month/year, instead of US format, Month/day/year. It doesn&#039;t matter to me, I get messages from eastern europe all the time, I am accustomed to it, but those who deal only in the US might be confused.<!-- s:o --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif\" alt=\":o\" title=\"Surprised\" /><!-- s:o -->','',0,'Ag==','2w5m87iq',1,0,'',47,0,0),(89,27,2,47,0,'67.241.135.77',1035752729,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey, where are the Hart-Parr collectors?','Hart-Parr was the first gasoline traction engine, now where are you guys?','',0,'Ag==','3abjdhxw',1,0,'',47,0,0),(90,22,1,43,0,'128.242.4.59',1035767799,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverdude','oliver #22 sickle mower','I need the guards, hitch plate, jack stand, and an original pto shaft.\r\nThanks','',0,'Ag==','sciinnam',1,0,'',43,0,0),(91,4,1,23,0,'12.28.99.174',1035773485,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','','Did I say too far?  I meant too far-out.  I can&#039;t handle the excitement of such a long drive.  The furthest I&#039;ve been from home was a couple weeks ago I went to Canada to pick up an Oliver.  You travel a long ways from your home, I hope you don&#039;t do all the driving.  How many Olivers do you have and what are they?  Jeff.','',0,'Ag==','6s57vg2x',1,0,'',23,0,0),(92,6,1,17,0,'216.93.70.238',1035774536,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','The date can be adjusted the same way.\r\nAfter you are logged in, click on &#039;Your Control Panel/Options&#039; and then click on &#039;Edit Profile&#039;. In the list of options there is a line that reads &#039;Date Format..&#039;. Change where it says in the box dd-mm-yyyy to mm-dd-yyyy and then click the edit profile button at the bottom once you are done. After that it will adjust to your preferences whenever you are logged in. This is the same page where you can change you time zone and other variables.','',0,'Ag==','1xhumlie',1,0,'',17,0,0),(93,28,1,49,0,'66.43.216.144',1035855359,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve O','cultivator','I am looking for a cultivator for my 77 rowcrop   nybody know where I might find one???','',0,'Ag==','3twsfurh',1,0,'',49,0,0),(94,4,1,47,0,'65.238.36.115',1035863638,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Not far!','Yes, I do all the driving, I travel with Harley Dawg, and lately he has been refusing to drive! Let&#039;s see, I have an Oliver 70 RC, an Oliver Hart-Parr 2-3 Plow Tractor. an Oliver Hart-Parr 3-5 Plow Tractor-2 of these, an Oliver Hart-Parr Rowcrop, an Oliver Cletrac HG-68, a Cletrac HG-68, an Oliver Cletrac BGSH, and an Oliver DDH. Implements 28&amp;quot; Oliver thresher, 3 or 4 plowmaster 100&#039;s, a model 5 picker w/parts machine, several other plows, grain drills, mowers, etc., and stuff I forgot I have.','',0,'Ag==','2y7eadsx',1,0,'',47,0,0),(95,22,1,47,0,'65.238.36.115',1035864175,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I have a couple of these mowers, I go to any large farm supply chain store for guards, and sections. I think they use the same as Farmall. If I was looking for those parts, I would check local auctions, these mowers were fairly common, you might be able to bid one in for less than the parts cost.','',0,'Ag==','g12fuahp',1,0,'',47,0,0),(96,29,1,50,0,'66.13.121.62',1036166339,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Rob Johnston','New to tractors','Just thought I&#039;d say hi.  I found this place from a link over at Olivergang.org .  Soon I&#039;ll be starting a restoration of my mother-in-law&#039;s Super 88.  I&#039;m looking forward to picking your brains on what goes where.  In the mean time, I started this [url=http&#58;//olivergang&#46;org/discus/messages/1/476&#46;html?1036164935:3vyc1sq5]thread[/url:3vyc1sq5] over there on their board and I&#039;m wondering if anybody has any other suggestions for my fuel line dilema.\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nRob','',0,'EA==','3vyc1sq5',1,0,'',50,0,0),(97,3,1,35,0,'67.34.169.253',1036206964,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','largest production','I agree with BA, the Oliver 70 begin production in 1937 as the 4 speed row crop, 1944 with addition of the 6 speed gearbox in row crop model, 1937 the 4 speed standard was introduced and in 1944 came the 6 speed standard.\r\nSerial Numbers 4 speed 1937 216 926-219 644 ending in 1944 244 711-254 040\r\n1944 245 041-250 179 ending 1948 262 840-267 866. The standards begin in 1937 with serial 301 803-302 083 and ended in 1948 with 314 221-315 420. There was also a Oliver standard 70 used for airports and was labeled the Oliver Airport 25. There was also an Oliver manufactured . These were the true Oliver 70&#039;s. From the introduction of the 70 in 1935 it was labeled Oliver Hart Parr until 1937 when the Hart Parr was dropped from the name. Oliver Hart Parr serial numbers 1935 200 001-200 685 until 1937 208 729-216 925.\r\nMost of this infomation was gathered from AGuide to Hart-Parr Oliver by Larry Gay.','',0,'EA==','1knbgbdt',1,0,'',35,0,0),(98,30,4,47,0,'65.238.36.151',1036251114,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','DDH parts tractor wanted','I am looking for a DD, DDH, DG, or DGH tractor with good tracks and undercarriage. The engine can be stuck, or broken, etc. Also interested in some air steer parts.  E-mail  <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com\">tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'EA==','3k0s60x6',1,0,'',47,0,0),(100,31,1,51,0,'152.163.189.134',1036357121,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Delbert','Oliver Horse Mowing Machine','A friend has a horse drawn mowing machine. He needs the paint color. He intends to bring it to the 2003 show in Penfield at the I&amp;amp;I Show. He also intends to bring an Oliver Thrash Machine.','',0,'EA==','2zaeq8it',1,0,'',51,0,0),(104,24,1,47,0,'67.241.136.79',1036546948,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Guesses','Gee, I don&#039;t know, but if I was trying to find a set of Oliver 60 grills, I would get in touch with the Great Lakes Oliver Collectors, they are big on 60&#039;s. E-mail Ken Guile, <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:GuileSPK@aol.com\">GuileSPK@aol.com</a><!-- e -->  maybe he can help, or send you in the right direction. Another good one I would check is Terry Allen, he likes to deal with 60&#039;s, his e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oliver60@abingdon.net\">oliver60@abingdon.net</a><!-- e --> . I have a 60 RC parts tractor, but I don&#039;t think any grills are left. Next time I go out where it is I&#039;ll check.','',0,'EA==','dm9w2hz1',1,0,'',47,0,0),(105,29,1,47,0,'67.241.136.79',1036548028,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Fuel line problem','I saw what you have posted with the Oliver Gang. You can trust what Chris Losey told you, that is what I would do. Chris has been dealing with that model all his life, he is trustworthy, and won&#039;t tell you something wrong on purpose or out of ignorance. He is a pretty darned good researcher, too. One thing I must warn you about, if you are new to tractors, you picked the wrong brand. Olivers are addicting, I started with one little HG-68, now I have Oliver stuff everywhere, in the house, in the garage(my car and pickup are outside, always now), in the barn, shed, field, everywhere, everywhere is Oliver. Nobody but Oliver collectors do this, as it is the only solution to the Oliver addiction.','',0,'EA==','23styw1k',1,0,'',47,0,0),(106,3,1,47,0,'67.241.136.79',1036548810,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Oh, tractors','I noticed he said tractors, those are machines that lay their own track, thus track-tor. Which eliminates Olivers with wheels, as they would be wheel-tors. So, the answer would undoubtly be HG-68.','',0,'EA==','31wh9bav',1,0,'',47,0,0),(107,3,1,26,0,'216.43.145.203',1036596341,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','The real definition','If you look back in time to 1906 when the word tractor became part of the English language, you will see the the word &amp;quot;tractor&amp;quot; was derived from combining the words &amp;quot;traction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;motor&amp;quot;.  Therefore &amp;quot;track&amp;quot; had no impact on the word &amp;quot;tractor&amp;quot;.  Sorry Andy.','',0,'EA==','1owc0d9b',1,0,'',26,0,0),(108,29,1,50,0,'66.13.121.62',1036598964,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','Fuel line','Hi Andy,\r\n\r\nIt&#039;s not that I was doubting what Chris said,  I was just looking for any other opinions/options that might be available.  After talking to a few other people, I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that replacing it with an oem line is the only way to go.  I&#039;m on the phone right now with Maibach Tractor trying to find a used line.\r\n\r\nAs far as the Oliver addiction goes,  I can feel it starting grow.  I was looking at the tractor this morning, thinking to myself that I should start taking the sheet metal off and straightening it.  But, I guess I&#039;ve gotta tackle one project at a time though.  I&#039;ve got an &#039;84 3/4 ton Chevy stripped down to just the cab right now.  I&#039;d better finish that before I bring something else into the shop.','',0,'EA==','3cyjv8h8',1,0,'',50,0,0),(109,29,1,47,0,'67.241.135.12',1036632312,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hurry up!','If you have some feelings of the addiction, I suggest you get that Chevy done real quick before it loses it&#039;s nice warm home to a shiny green Oliver.','',0,'EA==','2vz6x7dc',1,0,'',47,0,0),(110,3,1,47,0,'67.241.135.12',1036632484,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Sorry Sherry!','Wrong! Shakespear invented the word &#039;tractor&#039; for the english language. That was long before 1906!','',0,'EA==','1210fn3b',1,0,'',47,0,0),(112,24,1,45,0,'216.93.38.173',1036637609,1,0,1,1,1,0,'billfrommich','got a set of grilles','Thanks for all the information everyone.\r\nI got a set of grilles and have just bought a center strip. Perhaps this old 60 will be looking good by spring (I hope)\r\n                     Bill','',0,'EA==','317m987n',1,0,'',45,0,0),(113,33,1,50,0,'68.21.149.25',1036886530,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','88 model identification (warning: big pics!)','I was over at <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.oliverinformation.com/serials.html\">http://www.oliverinformation.com/serials.html</a><!-- m --> trying to decifer what year my mother-in-laws tractor was and now I&#039;m slightly puzzled.  The serial number that&#039;s on the dash plaque is 0235-142314, which according to the chart makes it an 88 Row Crop built in 1952.  I was under the impression that is was a super 88 since that&#039;s what it says on the side, but the chart indicates super 88&#039;s started in &#039;54.  It has obviously been repainted and I can barely make out the old logo underneath the paint.  So, my question is, is it a Super 88 Row Crop or an 88 Row Crop?  Is there such an animal as a Super 88 Row Crop?  Here&#039;s a couple of pic&#039;s if that will help at all.\r\n\r\n[img:2cdf4bzs]http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-008F&#46;JPG[/img:2cdf4bzs]\r\nand\r\n\r\n[img:2cdf4bzs]http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-016F&#46;JPG[/img:2cdf4bzs]\r\n\r\nA few close-up engine pics are [url=http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-009F&#46;JPG:2cdf4bzs]here[/url:2cdf4bzs] [url=http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-013F&#46;JPG:2cdf4bzs]here[/url:2cdf4bzs] and [url=http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-017F&#46;JPG:2cdf4bzs]here.[/url:2cdf4bzs]\r\n\r\nWhaddaya think?','',0,'GA==','2cdf4bzs',1,0,'',50,0,0),(114,33,1,5,0,'216.166.193.217',1036892522,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','88','Rob, the tractor does not have the flat pads for mounting equipment, only the pipe holes for the cultivator. Therefore , I think this is NOT a Super, just an 88, like the serial number indicates. Maybe someone overhauled the engine to Super specs, so they used Super decals or maybe lost the tinwork and replaced it with what they could find.  oleblu','',0,'GA==','2xei7nas',1,0,'',5,0,0),(115,33,1,47,0,'67.241.135.72',1036906766,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','88 For sure','What you have is a 1952 88RC with a wide front. Sand down where the white paint is, my guess is you will find yellow. That was not all that uncommon for someone to paint and decal a tractor wrong, dealers did it all the time, I suspect some still do. I don&#039;t know about the wide front, Ollie Schaefer probably does.  I heard some were built that way, and more were changed by the owners. At any rate it is less common that a regular row crop. You should get in touch with Richard Lynch to get some side covers. Looks like a pretty straight old tractor.','',0,'GA==','3dyquq7z',1,0,'',47,0,0),(116,33,1,47,0,'67.241.135.158',1036988084,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Red wheels','Hey Rob,\r\nI forgot to tell you to check under the white paint on the wheels, if it is red that is another good give away the paint has been monkied with. From your serial number the grill should be yellow, wheels red. It is possible that the tractor could have been severly damaged at some time, causing the parts the serial plate is mounted on to be replaced with ones from another tractor, but from what you say and show, I have no doubt it is an 88 diesel RC. As I recall only a few very late supers had white paint. You might want to check some paint codes if in doubt. I agree with oleblu on the frame, it certainly is an 88 frame, a super 88 would have a flat mounting pad on the front, and flat mounting pads on the sides. The good thing is it looks like great project material, and 88&#039;s look real good finished out.','',0,'GA==','21jfd57c',1,0,'',47,0,0),(117,33,1,50,0,'68.21.149.216',1036990334,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','','When you say overhauled to Super specs, what does that mean?  I&#039;m assuming that Super engines are larger?  My mother in law had a used engine installed a little over a year ago at the local voc. school and I&#039;m wondering if they put a super block in it.  Is it possible to tell by block numbers?\r\n\r\nAndy, can you possibly point me in the right direction of a picture or two of a [b:2a12ue2i]properly[/b:2a12ue2i] restored stock 88 RC.  I&#039;ve looked through the photo album over at the Olivergang.org and see a lot of nice looking tractors with varying paint schemes. ie red wheels &amp;amp; green hubs, red wheels &amp;amp; red hubs, yellow grille w/stripe down the frame etc.  When I do this, I&#039;d like it to look correct.  BTW, the paint has flaked off of the wheels in a few places and it is red underneath.\r\n\r\nThanks for all the input.  This is going to be fun.','',0,'QA==','2a12ue2i',1,0,'',50,0,0),(118,33,1,47,0,'65.238.36.173',1037034377,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Hey Rob,\r\nThat is what I figured, the red paint shows the tractor has been painted, I guess whoever painted it wanted to make it look as new as possible, from the oxidation and wear on the paint, my opinion would be they saw a new tractor on a dealers lot and painted it to match. As far as sending you in the right direction, no problem, glad to help. Are you an HPOCA member? If not I suggest you join, it is very beneficial in too many ways to explain in this forum. One of our Past Presidents, Ollie Schaefer, probably has as much knowledge on Fleetlines as anybody, he is especially adept on 88&#039;s. I would contact him. His e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:olliesch@papadocs.com\">olliesch@papadocs.com</a><!-- e --> you might be better to phone him at 618-664-3050. Let us know how your project progresses.','',0,'QA==','9b2ycrr1',1,0,'',47,0,0),(120,35,1,50,0,'68.21.149.216',1037150145,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','Where to find engine serial #???','I&#039;m still trying to deal with the burned through fuel line, according to the local agco dealer there are three different options for this line depending on engine serial number.  (I&#039;m dealing with an 88 Diesel Row Crop.)  He said the # would be on the right rear flange of the engine.  I looked and can&#039;t find it.  Does anybody else have a suggestion as to where to find it.  I found the casting #, (which I stated in a previous post as the serial #) and that does them no good.\r\n\r\nPics of engine are [url=http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-009F&#46;JPG:1f0jc014]here[/url:1f0jc014] and [url=http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/MVC-017F&#46;JPG:1f0jc014]here[/url:1f0jc014] if that helps.\r\n\r\nAny help would be greatly appreciated!\r\n\r\nRob','',0,'EA==','1f0jc014',1,0,'',50,0,0),(121,35,1,5,0,'216.166.193.55',1037159060,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Engine serial no.','Rob, look at the picture of the RIGHT side of the engine. On the left side of the picture you will see the block heater plug . Behind that you will see the steering shaft bracket with a brass ball and near that you will see the small cover on the bell housing to be used to check your timing. BELOW that inspection hole cover is a flat &amp;quot;boss&amp;quot; aprox. 5/8&amp;quot; wide and about 2-1/2 to 3&amp;quot; long. On that boss is your engine # that you need. You may need to use a small brass brush or toothbrush to clean dirt, grease, or paint off so you can read the #. Good luck and happy hunting. More questions, just ask. My knowledge is limited on diesels, all mine are gas. oleblu','',0,'EA==','54wr6vl5',1,0,'',5,0,0),(122,35,1,5,0,'216.166.193.55',1037161574,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Hydraulics','Rob, just saw your post about rebuilding the hyd on your 88. I&#039;ve never messed with one with the ele. switches on the steering shaft, only the ones with the levers coming out the top of the unit. Not much inside one of these lever units that can&#039;t be figured out with a little mechanical common sense.  I&#039;ve heard that the wiring harness for the electrical portion is somewhat expensive. The hyd. rebuilding tape you speak of   covers mostly rebuilding the pump and some on the valves. Don&#039;t remember anything being covered on the electrical part of it.  E-mail me if you have any more questions. oleblu','',0,'EA==','22jl8wcz',1,0,'',5,0,0),(123,35,1,50,0,'68.21.149.216',1037192503,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','Thanks again!','Wow, thanks again for the quick response.  I was going to have to pull a good line and take it to a shop with the burned line to have a new line made.  I&#039;m off to mother-in-laws with my carb cleaner and brass bristled brush!  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\nRob','',0,'EA==','3o7ja1b0',1,0,'',50,0,0),(124,35,1,51,0,'205.188.208.107',1037242386,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','burned fuel line','I sent a reply about your fuel line, I don&#039;t think it went through. Here goes again. I have a repowered Oliver 70 with a Buda Diesel, all the lines leaked. I had some made at a diesel rebuild shop. The fuel lines are all the same length so measure the missing area and add it to the length of the burned line, when you install the line you may need to adjust the bends some. Hope this helps Delbert','',0,'EA==','22nm4x4h',1,0,'',51,0,0),(125,36,1,55,0,'205.188.209.137',1037276909,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Charlie','60,70,66,77,88 parts 4 sale','I have many parts new and used for these and other models. Email me your list and I&#039;ll see if I can help. Ship daily','',0,'EA==','3pcskwpl',1,0,'',55,0,0),(126,35,1,50,0,'66.13.121.62',1037291483,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','Thanks for the reply','Hi Delbert,\r\n\r\nThanks for the reply.  I found the serial number yesterday morning.  It was right where oleblu said it would be.\r\n[img:2xevxzms]http&#58;//www&#46;bridge-view&#46;net/images/oliver/serial&#46;JPG[/img:2xevxzms]\r\nI ordered the line from Pell&#039;s in Fremont and am going to pick it up on my lunch hour today!  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->  It&#039;ll cost me $91 though.  <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'CA==','2xevxzms',1,0,'',50,0,0),(131,35,1,51,0,'205.188.208.107',1037457455,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Burned fuel line','I went back to your picture of the side of the engine, the diesel lines are stacked verticaly I believe that would be the latest model for the 88, My super 99 has the same arrangement.  Parts are verry expensive the price you quote for the line seems high though, sometimes to get what you want it is high priced. Delbert','',0,'CA==','2uxc98vb',1,0,'',51,0,0),(133,39,3,47,0,'67.241.135.31',1037478188,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Contact info','I thought it might be good to let members know my e-mail, as that is the easiest way to contact me. You can e-mail me at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com\">tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> Due to my work, and the irregular schedule I keep, this is the quickest way to get a reply. Weekends, and at times during the week, I will regularly check my e-mail, and respond at that time. I invite questions, discussion, or debate of any issue you may have concern with. I encourage the use of our forums, as other members may have identical concerns, perhaps your question will answer someone elses. This is the purpose of forums. I check our website regularly, and I do reply! I&#039;ll see y&#039;all at the Winter Get Together, in Wentzville, Mo. March 28-29, 2003\n\n[Edited on 27-1-2003 by Andy]','',0,'','2r7aipzh',1,0,'',47,0,0),(134,35,1,47,0,'67.241.135.31',1037480940,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Good choice!','$91 is not too much to pay when you take into consideration the time you can involve in doing something else. Your time is worth something. Chris told you right, he is a good member. I would replace with OEM for the reason he gave as far as vibration concerns, though as I recall it is a bosch type injection, which would negate length concerns. Even though shorter could increase injection pressure, and shorten response time slightly, on the one injector, balanced is always better. You made the right choice!!','',0,'','63adkvry',1,0,'',47,0,0),(135,35,1,50,0,'68.21.149.240',1037498282,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rob Johnston','It lives!','I finally got time this afternoon to install the line.  Taped up the battery-starter cable where the insulation was missing (the root of the entire problem), bled the line as Chris instructed and, viola...the old girl purrs like a kitten!\r\n\r\nThe tractor sounds pretty good too! <!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P -->  \r\n\r\nThanks too all for the great information I received here!\r\n\r\nRob','',0,'','3b9mf467',1,0,'',50,0,0),(140,40,1,56,0,'216.138.55.95',1037583927,1,0,1,0,1,1,'oliver farmer','model 73-H two row corn picker','i just cot this picker home today and was wondering if any one elese has one. the lift part where the hydro cylinder goes is all home made. i would also like to know what size tires are original.','',0,'','h1aa4los',1,0,'',56,0,0),(141,40,1,47,0,'67.241.135.152',1037585230,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Y\'all','Hey Oliver farmer,\r\nI can&#039;t answer your question, but I can refer you to someone who I believe can help you. I have had considerable help from one of our Past Presidents, Ollie Schaefer on questions of your type. Ollie is a really good guy, he helps members readily with info, I think he really enjoys doing this. You can e-mail him at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:olliesch@papadocs.com\">olliesch@papadocs.com</a><!-- e --> or you could call him, I&#039;m sure you would enjoy talking to him better than e-mail. His phone is 618-664-3050','',0,'','1nji9f3l',1,0,'',47,0,0),(147,27,2,21,0,'66.82.9.14',1037646817,1,0,1,1,1,0,'wrlaid','Hart Parr tractor','I&#039;m a wannbe Hart Parr collector. Can you tell me where there is one for sale?','',0,'','1empy6la',1,0,'',21,0,0),(148,40,1,56,0,'216.138.55.103',1037668570,1,0,1,0,1,0,'oliver farmer','73-H oliver picker','hi and thanks, i have talked to ollie back in march at his place in greenville, even bought some parts while i was there. i will see him in january. thanks again','',0,'','b9if8k5l',1,0,'',56,0,0),(150,42,1,7,0,'12.109.70.240',1037804916,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Summer Show','Every year I&amp;amp;I gets special event license plates for our summer show. What I need to know from everyone is if there is enough demand to up the order quantity from 300 to say 400. Last year we had 400 plates for the Red Power Roundup and sold out. The plates will probably have the 880 feature tractor or old #3 on them, the I&amp;amp;I logo, the HPOCA logo on them and reference to the 13th Annual HPOCA National Summer Show and the 17th annual Historic Farm Days. John','',0,'','xaglmc84',1,0,'',7,0,0),(154,42,1,17,0,'216.93.69.215',1037845976,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','According to Landis&#039; column in the HPOCA magazine, the 990 GM is going to be the feature tractor in 2003. Now I&#039;m curious as to which tractor to load up on the trailer.....','',0,'','msylkkzi',1,0,'',17,0,0),(155,42,1,7,0,'64.12.96.46',1037850428,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Feature Tractor is the 880','I think Landis had to submit that article before the feature tractor was chosen October 12th by the Hartland and Midwest collectors at a meeting in Urbana, IL. I think everyone has been contacted and a correction is forthcoming. John:o','',0,'','10bpbi5g',1,0,'',7,0,0),(158,42,1,17,0,'216.93.69.132',1037937282,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','That&#039;s good. While the 990 GM is definitely a great tractor, I&#039;m sure there will be a better turn out of 880&#039;s just because of production differences. That and they are a little easier to haul. I think this was part of the success of the Plain City Show, they chose a model that was easy to haul and had high production numbers.','',0,'','10fht3ol',1,0,'',17,0,0),(159,43,3,17,0,'216.93.69.132',1037937900,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','Board troubles','Terry has let me know that several people are having trouble with the message board, mostly with using the poll. If you could tell me what problems you are experiencing, and the steps you have taken, I might be able to straighten things out\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,'','33jmb8yl',1,0,'',17,0,0),(164,27,2,47,0,'65.238.36.172',1038095732,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','You might ask Mark Schuller, Phone# (219) 749-0169, Jim Kline, Phone#(937) 981-3985, or Gary Spitznogle Phone#(319) 766-2665. One of these should be able to find you a Hart Parr.','',0,'','3pllx9s6',1,0,'',47,0,0),(179,45,5,10611,0,'216.93.70.180',1038201143,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','Welcome','If you need help with any part of the web site, please let us know here.\r\nSuggestions and ideas for addition to the web site are also welcome. Heck, if there&#039;s something you don&#039;t like, we&#039;ll listen to that too!\r\n\r\nOne topic I would like to get some input on is, would you like to see an HPOCA social forum added to the other forums on this message board? It would be a place to talk about the rest of our lives. Things like birth, death, illness, etc., announcements would be nice to keep up with our friends out there.\r\nWhat does everybody think?','',0,'','3b629ooh',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(181,45,5,47,0,'65.238.36.220',1038206305,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Hey, Admin,\r\nThis is a good idea! Tech support can be a helpful thing. As far as other forums go, go for it, if it isn&#039;t too much trouble. If it flies, let it, if not you can always take it down!','',0,'','1cvpjzqk',1,0,'',47,0,0),(185,45,5,47,0,'67.241.135.211',1038288551,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','U2U','Hey, Chris,\r\nHelp! My U2U just died! Oh well, I&#039;ll just go to bed and mess with it tomorrow.','',0,'','13n41mci',1,0,'',47,0,0),(186,46,1,36,0,'64.12.96.41',1038315022,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RAD500','Oliver 500 Diesel','I finally have my Oliver 500 up and running! I hope to have it at the Plain City,Oh. show in &#039;03, if finished.','',0,'','2mwnxdxa',1,0,'',36,0,0),(196,47,1,70,0,'209.150.251.126',1038770889,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','Oliver No.2 Hayrake','Does anybody know where to find replacement or suitable aftermarket teeth for a No.2 hayrake?\r\nAlso need 1 21&amp;quot; rim and two 5.00-21&amp;quot; tires.','',0,'','3jql52mp',1,0,'',70,0,0),(197,48,1,71,0,'208.59.97.223',1038787252,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave','Need Engine for OC3 Crawler','Need a good running 4 cylinder gas hercules IXB engine for my OC3\r\n\r\nIs there any other engine that is readily available that will fit in my tractor?  Possibly from a more common wheeled tractor?\r\n\r\nthanks\r\nDave','',0,'','3nf7pbh2',1,0,'',71,0,0),(198,10,3,72,0,'216.241.149.203',1038788493,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Larry','Musuem in South Bend IN','I&#039;m interested in this subject about a\r\npossible Musuem in South Bend IN.\r\nIs there any thing I can do to help this happen ? <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','tuota6aj',1,0,'',72,0,0),(199,48,1,47,0,'67.241.135.127',1038788855,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re: Dave','Hey, Dave,\r\nI think that you are probably in luck! Fortunately for you, there is a fellow about an hours drive away, who if he doesn&#039;t have a used engine he can probably reman yours. Call Landis Zimmerman, he lives at 1450 Diamond Station Road, in Ephrata, PA. Phone# 717-738-2573. As to your question of replacement engines, Hercules model IXK-3, or IXA will fit, and are almost identical, but neither of them have the displacement or horsepower of the IXB. Your best bet is to stick with the IXB, in your OC-3.','',0,'','2qxx2d0h',1,0,'',47,0,0),(200,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.127',1038789405,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re: Larry','Hey, Larry,\r\nThere sure is! First on your ballot there is an issue as to whether we should continue looking into this, if you feel we should, vote for it. Also, contact Chris Losey, you can use the &#039;U2U&#039; option on this website, contact &#039;Chris&#039; and ask what you can do to help him out with this project.','',0,'','2ak9z9fm',1,0,'',47,0,0),(201,42,1,12,0,'209.240.212.23',1038797761,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Penfield','I&#039;m glad to hear about the 880 being the feature tractor! I was planning on bringing mine now I have even more reason to. I was just talking to a couple guys about going there next summer. I hope we can beat the IH number from last year but that sounds like a tall order! What does it cost to get one of those plates? WB.','',0,'','2hvbmp02',1,0,'',12,0,0),(202,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.11',1038803850,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Larry,\r\nAndy is right, if you are a member of the HPOCA, the best thing to do at this point is to send in the ballot in the latest issue of the magazine. \r\n\r\nHow  you could help after that would probably depend on your talents and knowledge. There are going to be many tasks to accomplish, so there is going to be a lot of room for help. But we should also use these talents in the areas that they will do the most good.\r\nOnce we know the results of the ballot issue, we can get moving on to the next step, raising the money.\r\nI have also had people contact me that have been very informative as to some of the procedures we will need to look into as things progress. Input like this is invaluable, so if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let us know.','',0,'','wafz4xpv',1,0,'',17,0,0),(203,42,1,7,0,'12.109.70.240',1038844560,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Special Event Plates','License plates are $30 a set. We usually get them in May and they are good for 60 days prior to the show if you are going to display them in Illinois. You also have to submit a copy of your current registration card and DL number. If you want them sent to you it cost $5. I think on the last day of the show we sold them for $10 per set. John','',0,'','2o2du8kf',1,0,'',7,0,0),(204,49,1,74,0,'63.156.36.169',1038855511,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dan','OC-9 Dozer Wanted!!','Loking for a OC-9 Dozer in running condition. Could be a good unit with a bad or missing engine as I have a spare motor available.. Preferably within 250 miles of Madison WI.. Any leads would be welcomed.. 608-486-2961 or 608-317-7006 Thanks','',0,'','2hap6tsa',1,0,'',74,0,0),(206,51,1,15,0,'199.174.142.150',1038955030,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Gaston Tew','77 RC Year Model','How can I determine the year model on a 77 RC Diesel with the serial plate missing.  The plate was located on the dash underneath the steering wheel.  What is the value of this tractor?  It is original in fair to good condition.','',0,'','1wqmq7ec',1,0,'',15,0,0),(207,48,1,71,0,'208.59.96.172',1038960326,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave','','Andy, \r\n\r\nI am aware of zimmermans, thanks for the reply\r\n\r\nDave','',0,'','2aki9a2k',1,0,'',71,0,0),(208,51,1,5,0,'216.166.193.74',1038962491,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Tractor model','Gaston, I&#039;m not sure but only the last of the Fleetlines before they went to the Super line had the serial no. under the dash. What color are your rear wheels, red or green? Does the front frame have the cast on pads with tapped holes for mounting equipment? What is the engine casting no.? That may be of help, but I&#039;m not sure. If possible you may want to post a picture and someone may notice something that rings a bell. Good luck with the new toy.  oleblu','',0,'','1ivkavxh',1,0,'',5,0,0),(209,51,1,35,0,'67.34.171.108',1038963120,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','77','The Oliver 77 came into production in 1948 and production ran until the supers came out in 1954. The 77 diesel didn&#039;t appear until 1949. There were very few changes from 49-53. Yours may have the hydra electric lift that appeared in 49. There were some changes in the seat confideration. Some of the oliver experts could possibly give you the year by the block cast number. According to published price lists your tractor is worth 990-1780 according to condition.','',0,'','2p1lnr9v',1,0,'',35,0,0),(212,47,1,75,0,'207.19.167.18',1039051056,1,0,1,1,1,0,'millertire','# 2 hayrake','<!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.millertire.com\">www.millertire.com</a><!-- w --> has the rim &amp;amp; 500-21 tire that you need. Ph 419-335-7010','',0,'','2sryuqw3',1,0,'',75,0,0),(213,52,1,7,0,'64.12.96.41',1039056933,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','apprentice','Glad to see that I have moved up from junior member to apprentice. Looked around but I have yet to dtermine how you get your rank and what to do to change it. John:D','',0,'','ubxgbnng',1,0,'',7,0,0),(214,52,1,7,0,'64.12.96.46',1039057086,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Found it!!','Oliver Newbie  1  \r\nOliver Apprentice  10  \r\nOliver Graduate  100  \r\nOliver Master  500  \r\nOliver Posting Freak  1000  \r\n<!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P -->','',0,'','3qbqytwa',1,0,'',7,0,0),(216,52,1,5,0,'216.166.193.231',1039064884,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','apprentice','Congratulations! I didn&#039;t know what those terms were for. Where did you find the info?  oleblu:D','',0,'','1v0r9y7z',1,0,'',5,0,0),(217,52,1,7,0,'64.12.96.232',1039137252,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Rankings','It&#039;s the last question in the FAQ section.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','329w7zr1',1,0,'',7,0,0),(218,51,1,411,0,'169.207.45.88',1039147645,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','oleblu had a good point. How do you know the plate was on the dash panel? They&#039;re usually on the side of the block on a brass plate. Are you sure about the location? Good luck! I&#039;ll watch for your replies.','',0,'','2a0bda51',1,0,'',411,0,0),(219,33,1,411,0,'169.207.45.88',1039149308,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','Looks like an 88 Row Crop adjustable wide to me. Try looking at pictures of some tractors on Larry Harsin&#039;s home page for some reference or ideas. \r\nHe has some narrow supers that you can look at to see the differences between them and yours.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://olivertractor.com/\">http://olivertractor.com/</a><!-- m -->\r\nGood luck and have fun!','',0,'','1mziotg8',1,0,'',411,0,0),(220,53,5,10611,0,'216.93.69.201',1039154321,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','Upgrade','This is just to let everybody know that I have upgraded the message boards. This seems to have fixed the edit post function. The board will only allow you to edit messages that you posted, so don&#039;t worry about someone changing what you have said.\r\n\r\nHopefully this will fix the problem that people have had with voting on the poll, too.\r\n\r\nIf you have any troubles, questions or comments, please let me know so I can try to fix them.','',0,'','3ulrw42k',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(222,52,1,5,0,'216.166.192.204',1039231533,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','How many posts??','John, we only need another 82 posts to get another GOLD STAR!  oleblu','',0,'','2bikna0f',1,0,'',5,0,0),(223,52,1,7,0,'205.188.208.101',1039231889,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Master poster','[I&#039;m fairly active posting on discussion pages around the net, but I think it will be a while before I reach fanatic!:P','',0,'','2hqqln5o',1,0,'',7,0,0),(224,52,1,47,0,'65.238.36.79',1039276756,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','What I want to know is how many posts does it take before they mail out the chocolate chip cookies!!! I&#039;m working real hard trying to get those chocolate chips!!!;)','',0,'','1m3gdloq',1,0,'',47,0,0),(227,51,1,15,0,'165.121.228.207',1039287811,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Gaston Tew','77 RC Year Model','You can see where the serial plate was mounted on the dash.','',0,'','9kmbewa2',1,0,'',15,0,0),(228,51,1,65,0,'216.183.149.218',1039295390,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','77 diesel','Serial plate went up on dash in 1952 . The work light was on right side ,red tail light on left and the seat was changed around then also . Earier models had a bar tieing around back of frame this was gone in next series of seats. I don&#039;t know if there is a engine cross over to serial number list available . If you look inside front frame you can sometimes casting date of frame.Serial number plates were on engine for 60-70-80-90-series.','',0,'','1nqjrq3i',1,0,'',65,0,0),(232,51,1,56,0,'216.138.55.106',1039350960,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliver farmer','','if you look on the engine block, the day,month,and year are cast into it. sometimes they are upside down or backwards, but it should be there.','',0,'','2g2p1hue',1,0,'',56,0,0),(233,33,1,79,0,'209.132.168.110',1039359717,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Joe','','Looks like 1952 88 Diesel.  Probably has disk brakes and does have Hydra-lectric switches on column, has later seat suspension.  Engine has been changed to S88 or the fuel filters have been changed to the Super variety which is not uncommon if pump problems were encountered.  If it is a 52, believe your rear axles, rear wheel hubs, and the front cast centers would all be green.  Mine are red but it is a 53.  <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://home.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPAlbumPict?com=arcsoft&amp;amp;awp=albumshow.html&amp;amp;album_id=1289354You\">http://home.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp. ... 1289354You</a><!-- m --> can get lots of controversy over wheel hub color!!  Should find some sign of original color when you sand for restoration.  Will keep looking for a 1952 photo.  Good Luck.','',0,'','24doq6x3',1,0,'',79,0,0),(235,57,5,10611,0,'35.12.20.208',1039366910,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','dues poll','I have removed the dues poll. Apparently many people were unable to vote in it, so until I can figure out the problem, we&#039;ll just pretend it wasn&#039;t there....','',0,'','ijcwz8n7',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(236,58,1,411,0,'169.207.45.116',1039367453,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Mark','How did you get hooked?','I got my first Oliver from the farmer I bought my property from. Saw it sitting in his machine shed one day and asked if it worked. He said it used to but had not run for some time. I only had to get the fuel bowl to seal so gas would flow to the carburetor. Since his son-in-law had no interest in it, he sold it to me. Unfortunately, he passed away a few years later. I enjoyed sitting in his kitchen listening to the tales he would tell of the old days. He built a V-plow for the 1949 77 RC nf and used to plow all the old lanes in the area with it. I found the old plow grown over in an old farm lane on the east side of the property and hauled it out. Some day I&#039;ll mount it up if I can figure it out. The tractor was missing the side curtains so I asked the new owners of the house if I could check the shed for the missing parts. To my surprise I was able to locate all the panels and the belt pulley. It came with a trip bucket manure loader which I have used for many things. It works off a PTO driven hydraulic pump. I didn&#039;t think I&#039;d be doing anything but moving snow with the old tractor initially, but kept finding different things I could do with it. I started working my own fields instead of renting them out. We have a few goats (17), so there&#039;s always a need for hay, straw, manure clean-up, and so on. Then there&#039;s the road I built with it on the land. It&#039;s about 900&#039; long. I back filled the foundation of the house we built out on the land. One year I bolted a large square tube to the bucket and inserted the lift arm of an engine picker into the channel which made an adjustable crane attachment. I used it to pick and replace the twin small blocks in an old Chris Craft boat I have. Some day I&#039;ll get some pictures of that operation on the site. The tractor has been very dependable and useful. Makes people shake their heads with some of the things I make it do. I know I&#039;m very small as far as a tractor collector goes, but I do what I can with what I have. I never restored any of them completely. The 77 came with the grille painted red and a couple tires had boots in them to hold air. Its got all new rubber now and the colors are at least correct. I suppose I really got the bug when I saw an old Oliver in southeast Wisconsin while trout fishing one year. The original colors on it were very memorable. It just was so much different then the other tractors that dominate this area. That&#039;s when I had to put the correct colors back to mine. I wasn&#039;t raised on a farm so I mostly have had to learn everything by trial &amp;amp; error. The internet and books help alot, and sometimes I just have to take things apart to figure them out. I love reading other people&#039;s stories of their Oliver experiences, reading about the history and just like looking at the tractors. Of coarse I like getting them out to go &amp;quot;play&amp;quot;.\r\nWhen did you get hooked?\n\n[Edited on 1-15-2003 by Mark]','',0,'','3pdlf72b',1,0,'',411,0,0),(237,58,1,35,0,'67.34.168.81',1039371866,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','','I got hooked before I could barely talk. My grandfather sold horse(mule) drawn Oliver equipment beginning in the early 30s. My relatives sold Oliver equipment until 1967. My Dad and uncle used Oliver equipment on the farm. We had all the fleetline series plus a 550, HG68, OC3, OC4 crawlers. We used all Oliver equipment with few exceptions. The crawlers were my favorites. The Oliver dist. manager would use our farm to demonstrate new equipment to area farmers. I now own a 550 and several Oliver toys. I am in the process of looking for a HG or OC3 and a 44 or 440.','',0,'','376u6ao5',1,0,'',35,0,0),(238,33,1,79,0,'209.132.168.92',1039386093,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Joe','','Even though I got the photo link to HP photofile garbled, I see they don&#039;t allow for the link any longer.  Not sure how to post a photo here so suggest going to Olivergang.org and there is a 1952 88 gas narrow front in their year 2000 plowday file that looks very correct.','',0,'','1x9o1vua',1,0,'',79,0,0),(239,59,1,56,0,'216.138.55.109',1039573325,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','my newest addition','i can&#039;t find anyone around here that appreciates olivers other than my wife and two boys, so i am bragging here. my latest buy is a model 535 with a chrysler v-8. i had to drive it 49 miles at an average speed of 13 miles an hour. she made it with no problem other than her love for gas. just wanted to tell others about it i guess.','',0,'','22icob9r',1,0,'',56,0,0),(240,59,1,7,0,'205.188.209.169',1039578811,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Coulterville?','Where&#039;s the picture of that beauty? Man, I used to hang out around Coulterville back in the old days, went to the dances in St. Libory, cruised over to B&#039;ville. Bring her up to Penfield in July, it&#039;ll be a high time. John','',0,'','b5rgztbu',1,0,'',7,0,0),(241,58,1,81,0,'192.100.4.55',1039646148,1,0,1,1,1,0,'ahk3','Hooked','My Dad bought me a 1944 Oliver 60 Standard when I was a year old in 1960. I have two younger brothers and he also bought them Oliver 60 Standard&#039;s as well. The tractors were used to pull gang mowers to maintain our 200 acre property in Southwest Michigan. The property was sold a number of years ago and my brother&#039;s did not want to keep their tractors. The 60 was always garaged and in great shape, but is now fully restored and looks and runs great. We also have an Oliver 15 hp Outboard and a large collection of Oliver toys, both old and new. Look forward to seeing everyone in Wentzville in March and Penfield in July.','',0,'','2x5ssqqv',1,0,'',81,0,0),(242,60,4,83,0,'198.81.26.233',1039842527,1,0,1,1,1,0,'howie','Cletrac AG-6 Clutch install','I just acquired an AG-6 and I need to repair the drive clutch. It slips badly and smokes. Does anyone have any advice before I start this job? Any advice is greatly appreciated.','',0,'','3fmhatxn',1,0,'',83,0,0),(243,58,1,411,0,'169.207.45.74',1039843557,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','Thanks Frank &amp;amp; ahk3 for the replies. I always enjoy stories like yours. \r\nSeems most of the viewers of this site like to read rather than write.\r\nToo bad. I know there&#039;s much to share.','',0,'','37x6f1f6',1,0,'',411,0,0),(244,58,1,35,0,'67.34.168.171',1039875033,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','','Mark\r\nI couldn&#039;t agree with you more. There are over 6,000 of us members and it would be a safe guess that nearly half have computers. This is an excellent site to pass on stories, tech tips, trade, buy and sell. If we can get more participation more non members may start viewing and want to join our organization.','',0,'','27b3h29g',1,0,'',35,0,0),(245,58,1,12,0,'209.240.212.23',1040163268,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','','I probally got hooked and converted at the same time. I grew up and worked for the neighbor who farmed with IH tractors. Dad had a small amount of ground and we had an 8N Ford. I rented a small field and bought a Farm-all H when I was 11 years old, and paid for the tractor that first year. That hasn&#039;t happened again <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->. I started doing mechanic work when I got out of high school at a small repair shop. We worked on a lot of IH and jd tractors, the first Oliver I worked on was a 2255 MFWD. It wasn&#039;t the easiest thing to work on so I didn&#039;t have a high opinion of Olivers yet! The shop closed down and I went to work at a factory for about 6 months. Then I got the chance to go to work at the local White/Oliver dealer. This was a great dealer and I soon learned that Oliver was &amp;quot;The Finest in Farm Machinery&amp;quot;. My first Oliver was a 1750 diesel that I bought at an auction, it had water leaking into the oil so I got it cheap! Next I got a 60 that was a basket case, it&#039;s still sitting in the barn. Since then I have been buying and using Oliver tractors and equipment to farm with. Once you get started it&#039;s hard to stop! WB.','',0,'','9ux63nu2',1,0,'',12,0,0),(246,58,1,7,0,'152.163.207.212',1040183813,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','How I got started','I grew up on a dairy farm about 70 miles NE of St. Louis. We were all AC and I started on a WD45 when I was 5. I now own 4 of them pus several others. I bought a 1947 Oliver 60 last year at Aumann&#039;s Auction, it&#039;s like the one my Grandfather used to farm his little farm in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s. I really got hooked on collecting when I started hanging out with the guys from the I&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor &amp;amp;  Gas engine Club 4 years ago. This year we will be hosting the HPOCA National Summer Show in Penfield, IL. I agree that it seems like we have more lookers than posters, but hey, we&#039;ve only been here a little while.','',0,'','5hepxx7b',1,0,'',7,0,0),(247,60,4,47,0,'65.238.36.100',1040220738,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey, Howie,','Your repair is fairly simple, it takes me about half a day to do. The clutch assembly comes out of the cover beneath the fuel tank. If you have an operators manual the repair is described. It is the same as for a BG, BD, etc., uses the same clutch. If you don&#039;t have a manual, call Landis Zimmerman, Ph. 717-738-2573. He stocks that manual. Since you probably don&#039;t have the shop tooling to replace the linings, (I have a firm send me the material, then I reline mine) it might be better to buy an exchange unit from Landis, complete with throw out bearing, and pilot bearing, he stocks these. And this will eliminate most of your problems. Call Landis, he can help you out. One thing I should warn you of is to make sure all bolts, nuts, and washers go back from the exact same place they came from, as there is some slight variances, otherwise it can become a puzzle.','',0,'','25o8ueqq',1,0,'',47,0,0),(249,28,1,72,0,'216.241.149.244',1040261724,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Larry','cultivator','could you be more spacific\r\nI had saw a set of front mount 36&amp;quot;\r\ncultivators near Mishawaka, IN\r\nat Hein &amp;amp; Son Used Machinery <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->\r\n(574)-633-4177\r\n\r\nNote they are only open on sunday\r\nand monday 10 am to 5 pm','',0,'','2p53nlvs',1,0,'',72,0,0),(250,62,3,17,0,'216.93.70.114',1040262503,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','Museum vote','I would like to thank everybody that sent in their ballots in the recent election. I was happy to find out that a majority of the returned ballots were yes votes. From what I was told, about 10 percent even had comments on them about either what a good idea this is, or where to send donations. \r\n\r\nThe vote count on December 13th was 692 yes votes and 88 no votes.\r\n\r\nWe are going ahead with the next step, which is coming up with a budget and to start looking for the financing. Not much is going to happen until the holidays are over, but I will try to keep adding updates here as I have more information.\r\n\r\nThanks again everybody, and Happy Holidays to you all.','',0,'','cks1w3tx',1,0,'',17,0,0),(252,58,1,23,0,'12.28.99.156',1040454362,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','Hooked on Olivers','I started out collecting just a couple years ago.  But there&#039;s more history before that.  I live on a farm which we now rent out.  We farmed with a WD-45 Allis that came with the farm when we bought it, and an Oliver 88 Row Crop NF that originally came from my Grandpa which he bought new.  He also ran an Oliver dealership a few miles from where I live.  I was a young lad when we were farming (I&#039;m 22 now).  The WD-45 was the tractor we used the most because it was a wide front and was a good original tractor.  The 88 was good but it was unhandy for most jobs because it had a loader on.  But it just seemed like the WD always needed something.  We had such trouble getting it to charge, bad votage regulator after another, so many times we had to crank start it.  Other annoyances like the steering locking up when turning one way, rough idle, etc.  But as long as we had that 88 I can never remember a time where it didn&#039;t start, didn&#039;t do what we needed it to, and we never needed to do anything mechanically to it.  I can think of more than one occasion where we had to bale hay with the 88 and the loader out front because the WD-45 was out of commission.  That was the history for us behind Oliver.  The collecting didn&#039;t start until fairly recently.  We still have that 88 we had on the farm.  My dad got an 88 widefront from his dad but it had a bad engine-a broken camshaft.  He got the engine fixed and a week after we got it in brought it to the local tractor pull and he took first place in the 7,000 lb class.  After that and my cousin starting to collect them and seeing how much fun it is to restore them, I got my first, an Oliver 60.  After that it snowballed.  The household is now up to 11 with 1 on the way.  Here they are:\r\n&#039;38 Oliver 70 Row Crop NF\r\n&#039;47 Oliver 60 RC NF\r\n&#039;48 Oliver 60 RC NF cast rear\r\n&#039;48 Oliver 60 WF\r\n&#039;49 Oliver 77 RC NF\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 77 Standard\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 88 RC NF\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 88 RC WF\r\n&#039;50 Oliver 88 Standard\r\n&#039;53 Oliver 66 RC WF\r\n&#039;53 Oliver 99 gas\r\n&#039;55 Oliver Super 77 WF\r\n&#039;57 Oliver Super 55 gas\r\n&#039;63 Oliver 1900 MFWD\r\n&#039;68 Oliver 2150 MFWD\r\nEventually we hope to have them all restored.  Right now the &#039;47 60 is being restored.  What attracted me to Olivers is a lot of things.  They dominate at our local tractor pulls, they are really easy to work on, they are a good looking tractor, they are a pleasure to drive, and the industry &amp;quot;firsts&amp;quot; they had.  That&#039;s my story, now lets hear yours.  Jeff.\n\n[Edited on 2-1-2004 by Jeff]','',0,'','380phukr',1,0,'',23,0,0),(253,3,1,23,0,'12.28.99.156',1040455413,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','','I would have to agree with the Oliver 70 being the highest in number of tractors produced.  The 4 cylinder 90 and 99&#039;s had a long production run also:1937-1952.  The 550 probably had the longest production run:1958-1975.  Jeff.','',0,'','20kzbc0d',1,0,'',23,0,0),(255,47,1,40,0,'205.188.208.42',1040498994,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Teeth for Number 2 Rake','My brother recently purchased some teeth for his rake from the local AGCO dealer','',0,'','11kjraup',1,0,'',40,0,0),(256,63,1,86,0,'139.55.226.174',1040523538,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Dachshund','Oliver #22 mower','Hi guys! New to this site - my cousin has a model 22 or 22A trail type mower (40&#039;s or 50&#039;s vintage). The axle / hub / rim is bent and we need another one. Any ideas as to where to look? Thanks!','',0,'','spimv1xk',1,0,'',86,0,0),(257,63,1,56,0,'216.138.55.107',1040525424,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','mower','i think i have what you need, you can e-mail if you are interested. you need a two piece rim, hub, and the spindle, correct? is that all? i sent a spindle to kansas a while back via the postal service. would you want to pay the shipping? let me know what you think. talk to you later.','',0,'','1ya67b9k',1,0,'',56,0,0),(258,64,1,87,0,'208.162.253.135',1040590451,1,0,1,1,1,0,'smerritt','Model 74 Cornpicker','I want to mount a 74 cornpicker on a 770.  I believe there is a bracket that bolts to the fender mount in which the picker undercarriage bolts to.  Could someone draw me a sketch of these brackets (with dimensions) so I could make a set.  I would also be interested in buying a set.','',0,'','3m1c4dq1',1,0,'',87,0,0),(259,64,1,56,0,'216.138.55.102',1040597896,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','74 picker','hi there, if you can wait untill monday night i will get  the parts book and see if there is a page i can copy that has a picture on it. then i will send it to you.','',0,'','1ld8h97a',1,0,'',56,0,0),(260,65,3,56,0,'216.138.55.102',1040601685,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','helping to identify','hi there all, i&#039;m not sure if this is the right place for this but here goes. i am a small collector with limited knowledge and resources at my fingertips. i have heard of other people as well as my self ask this question almost every day.&amp;quot; can someone tell me how to tell what model Oliver implement this is?&amp;quot; this bothers me a little that there is usually no way to help in answering this question. yes, usually there are alot of people who try as best they can to give what knowledge they do have to try and help. there is some help on tractors in this area, but not for the implements. i saw some pictures of one of the summer shows of a #2 rake, a #50 baler and a #7 (i think) spreader. this is my interest as well is to collect and restore equipment as well as tractors. scince this is the Hart-Parr Oliver Collectors Association, and i emphasize on &amp;quot;Collectors&amp;quot;, how can we as an organization help solve this problem of identifying? the paint color is another problem. you ask the question and you hear &amp;quot;well, i think the wheels are supposed to be red and the rest green&amp;quot;. Ok, what color red and what color green? i understand that the resources are not there to even tell what year something was built. is this correct? i have found out on my own that in the front of some parts books there is a serial # listing and a year behind the #. but unless you have a parts book for every implement that oliver made wiht a tag on it, how can you tell what the year is. can we as an organiziation pull together and possibily put together something like this? i would be willing to try and help anyway i can as possibily maybe others would want to help too. it seems to me that when you say, and i do say this with pride,&amp;quot;i collect oliver equipment&amp;quot;,the first thing people say is &amp;quot;how many tractors do you have?&amp;quot; I have 3 tractors. but i also have a model 22? mower. I can&#039;t tell you if it is a 22, a 22-A, or a 22-B. i don&#039;t know how to tell. i also have a 82 mower, a 26 drill, a 50 baler, a #4 picker, a #73-H picker, a 4240 plow, a 2-16 plow on steel, a 2-16 plow on rubber, a 285 field cultivator, a #1 rotary hoe, a 4 row pipe cultivator, a 540 planter and a 535 v-8 combine. i have a goal to restore and show all of these plus any other oliver thing i can get my hands on. i do not want to restore to the wrong color sceme. does this make sence to anyone elese. i hate to see something restored and you say &amp;quot;is that the right color of green&amp;quot;, and they say &amp;quot;i don&#039;t know&amp;quot;. this is something i feel is a need for a collectors association to be able to do. to be able to help the collector if he or she asks for help. not just say&amp;quot; it would look good green or red.&amp;quot; i am not asking for the impossible. i just want to get the ball rolling and offer any help that i may be able to give. my 9 year old son asked me last night  as we were looking at the hart-parr oliver book by C. H. Wendel, to see a picture of my grandfathers #89 loader. guess what, there is no picture there . do not get me wrong, i love the book and use it alot . at least twice a week, but it doesn&#039;t help with all of the questions that are asked. almost all of either the parts, shop, and setting up and operating manuals have some sort of picture in them. can we as a association put together some sort of listing with this information available to the rest of the oliver people. if not in book form, at least on the world wide web. i am willing to listen to any and all other peoples  ideas on this matter and i hope that some of us in the association can help to identify.  thanks so much for listening and for having a place like this for people like me to come and complain.  your fellow collector  oliver farmer.','',0,'','1pvkin37',1,0,'',56,0,0),(261,66,4,88,0,'64.158.115.48',1040603874,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Doug_424','OC-4 Dozer made by Weldco','Hi,I am looking for some information about dozer assemblies made by Weldco, or Weldco Beales. I have an OC-4 series B with a 6 way dozer that I think was made by Weldco. Mine has been modified,, and I need some info, and photo&#039;s to try to restore it to original. I saw one pictured in the Oliver magazine in the July (I think)issue. Does anyone out there have one,or know of one where I could get some photo&#039;s????   Thanks for your help\n\n[Edited on 12-22-2002 by Doug_424]','',0,'','18f7jaok',1,0,'',88,0,0),(262,66,4,35,0,'65.82.173.104',1040655454,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','OC 4 blade','Contact Landis Zimmerman at Zimmerman OLiver-Cletrac. The phone number is 717 738 2573, address is 1450 Diamond Station Rd. Ephrata, Pa. 17522. Labdis and his brothers are experts on Oliver crawlers and I am sure he will have the information that you need. I owned a 1963 OC 4 but sold it two years ago. I now collect wheeled Olivers. The OC 4 was a neat little crawler.','',0,'','330fb3ud',1,0,'',35,0,0),(263,66,4,88,0,'64.158.113.221',1040661864,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Doug_424','Weldco Dozer','I&#039;m already aware of Zimmerman,,Thanks..\r\nWhat I&#039;m hoping to find is someone who owns one of these dozers, and might be able to send me some photo&#039;s of it','',0,'','2zspwpk5',1,0,'',88,0,0),(264,64,1,56,0,'216.138.55.108',1040688807,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','74 picker','i hope this works. here is the two different pages in the parts book on mounting a 74 picker on a 770. hope this helps.','',0,'','1zkmo374',1,0,'',56,0,0),(265,64,1,56,0,'216.138.55.108',1040689045,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','74 picker','here is the other page','',0,'','3c4cfvw0',1,0,'',56,0,0),(266,67,1,7,0,'205.188.209.136',1040700325,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Merry Christmas','Merry Christmas from the Schweizer farm. Visit our home page and the link to the I&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor &amp;amp; Gas Engine Club, hosts for the 2003 HPOCA National Summer Show. <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->','',0,'','1xxqpt3i',1,0,'',7,0,0),(267,67,1,7,0,'205.188.208.102',1040700433,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Wrong link','<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.schweizer-usa.net\">http://www.schweizer-usa.net</a><!-- m -->','',0,'','2ph40iyp',1,0,'',7,0,0),(268,64,1,87,0,'208.162.253.157',1040746735,1,0,1,1,1,0,'smerritt','','Thanks, that helps a lot!','',0,'','g3w9ah02',1,0,'',87,0,0),(269,67,1,5,0,'216.166.193.143',1040790319,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Merry Christmas','Merry Christmas to you and your family and Happy &amp;quot;OLLIE&amp;quot;days. Just looked at your site and saw all your toys. Looks good.  I wish I had enough computer skills to do something like that. Oh, well, there&#039;s always next year. Jim T','',0,'','3n3h351p',1,0,'',5,0,0),(270,65,3,90,0,'64.24.229.58',1040858146,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Mike in Ohio','help to identify','I think this is an excellent idea whose time has finally come. Sherry, our magazine editor, has put together a website that covers most of the tractors that the Oliver family built. It deals with paint codes, serial numbers, history, etc. It can be found at oliverinformation.com . Unfortunately, most of the company records dealing with implements were either lost or destroyed many years ago, so it is going to be much more difficult to put together any accurate listing for implements. Perhaps collectors who own implements and know (maybe first hand) what year and corresponding serial number their particular implement carries could provide that info to a website for cataloging. Eventually, we could have enough info about various implements to compile a fairly accurate listing.\r\nMike in Ohio.','',0,'','6e59sxm2',1,0,'',90,0,0),(271,68,1,67,0,'64.6.2.130',1041109879,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','Midwest Winter Get Together','Just a reminder for the members of the Midwest Oliver Collectors chapter--The winter get together is coming up fast-Jan. 17-18 in Galesburg, IL-get your room reservations and banquet reservations in ASAP.. For any others interested in attending-e-mail for more <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:info-oliver60@abingdon.net\">info-oliver60@abingdon.net</a><!-- e -->.','',0,'','2q4vx88m',1,0,'',67,0,0),(272,68,1,5,0,'216.166.192.148',1041131647,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','winter get together','I&#039;m in!','',0,'','1zhkxn83',1,0,'',5,0,0),(273,69,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041265899,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','Super 55 Drain Plug','I dont know what this drain plug is for exactly.  Can someone help me and describe what its use is for.  Its to the upper right of teh PTO on the Super 55. I attached a picture for help. \r\n\r\nI assume that its for leveling the Tranny/Dif. fluid, but to be safe, can someone confirm.','',0,'','1v40bb2j',1,0,'',94,0,0),(274,70,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041283086,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','Tranny/Diff oil condition','More on this Super 55, I went to drain all of the fluids to start fresh since its new to me.  \r\n\r\nThe hydraulic fluid in the hyd. system was thick, milky and close to orange.  Like vomit.  Anyway, I drained that and replaced but then I went to the tranny/diff oil.\r\n\r\nThe tranny/diff fluid was so black and thick.  I drained about 0.5 quart in about 20 minutes from one of the drains and stopped working with it.  It was super low/empty.  So I wont run it, obviously, in a 20 quart reservoir there is a sever shortage.  \r\n\r\nBUT how do I clean that crap out of there without doing any further damage?  Should I add a full amount in the system and plan to change it all over again soon?  Someone at work suggested putting diesel in there and running it around the yard at idle for a while and draining that out and putting new fluids in.  \r\n\r\nWhats the best plan of attack here?\r\n\r\nSTU','',0,'','glrzu3pi',1,0,'',94,0,0),(275,71,1,95,0,'65.247.125.145',1041292658,1,0,1,0,1,0,'jeffbauman','Oliver Superior Grain Drill','I have an Oliver superior grain drill that I am restoring.  I have a serial number, but I can&#039;t find any information with it.  If anyone can help the number is   26-31810   .  If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it.  Thanks.\r\n\r\nJeff','',0,'','2qm3n6nt',1,0,'',95,0,0),(276,72,3,5,0,'216.166.192.239',1041296492,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Show Book','I just recieved a 2002 IH Showbook from the Red Power Roundup and wondered if there is any intrest in a book like that being done for the HPOCA Summer Show? My understanding is with IH, the national orginazation  has the book done and then sells them to individuals upon request and to their local IH chapters. I enjoy looking back at the shows I attend and share the pictures with others who are not able to attend. Any feedback is welcome, especialy from officers or Board members if this has been discussed or may be something to be considered in the future.  Thanks and HAPPY NEW YEAR to one and all. Jim T','',0,'','mn4snb23',1,0,'',5,0,0),(277,72,3,7,0,'205.188.209.44',1041300079,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Show Book','Pretty awesome book wasn&#039;t it Jim? Rich Porter, the guy that took the pictures and produced the book lives here in Paxton. If anyone wants to take a lesson on how to do a souvenier showbook, the IH Collectors are about the best I&#039;ve seen.','',0,'','24tn4v6a',1,0,'',7,0,0),(278,73,3,7,0,'205.188.209.13',1041300185,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','HPOCA magazine','Received my magazine today, some kind of world record for delivery time. John','',0,'','3gtv1lw4',1,0,'',7,0,0),(279,71,1,411,0,'169.207.45.178',1041306178,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','It might help to post an image of it on the YT site. There is a forum to figure out what the item is in the photo.','',0,'','8d9xhaq7',1,0,'',411,0,0),(280,70,1,411,0,'169.207.45.178',1041306444,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','I would get a service manual and look to the recommendations there.','',0,'','3clhzgfv',1,0,'',411,0,0),(282,70,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041354706,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','I&amp;T Manual','If you have ever owned an I&amp;amp;T Shop Manual, they make assumptions that the readers are heavy duty mechanics by trade.  I have the manual, read it fifty times.  I am sure this is a no brainer to someone who is in the trade, I am not <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2i4xm0ec',1,0,'',94,0,0),(283,69,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041354921,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','drain plug','Again for those of you who will suggest &#039;get a manual&#039;, I have the I&amp;amp;T manual for this tractor, it doesnt mention anything anywhere about this plug.\r\n\r\nI am a learning mechanic, I ordered the manual before I even bought the tractor but its not a lot of help with the simple stuff.','',0,'','pgslpw3l',1,0,'',94,0,0),(284,58,1,62,0,'160.36.201.136',1041369327,1,0,1,0,1,0,'dcbaker','How did you get hooked?','Heck, I have my picture sitting between my Dad&#039;s legs on an Oliver 60 Standard; this would have been in ~1947 when I was less than a year old.  He was having problems plowing our land with the 60 (stood on its hind legs with our Plowmaster 100 2 x 16), so he sold it and bought a 70 Standard in 1948--one of the last made.  I learned to drive it at the tender age of 6--with instructions to &amp;quot;push in the button if I could not get to the clutch quick enough.&amp;quot; I still have it now---runs like a top, purrs like a kitten.  It&#039;s gonna get a new paint job this spring, along with some minor repairs.  Hooked?  I sat behind that thing more hours than I can count.','',0,'','3bvxop1g',1,0,'',62,0,0),(286,72,3,67,0,'64.6.2.76',1041379792,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I just saw the IH book also.  Very impressive.  I talked to one of the guys who worked on it, and learned that they had about 4000 copies printed, and they were going fast.  The HPOCA is not as large a club, but it sounds like a good idea, in addition to our video.  I plan to discuss it at the next board meeting. Terry.','',0,'','3sm2873s',1,0,'',67,0,0),(288,70,1,411,0,'169.207.45.190',1041382816,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','The way you presented the questions, it didn&#039;t seam to me that you had a manual. I don&#039;t own a tractor like yours so I cannot help. I have run into a problem such as yours on another Oliver though. My final drive was milky and I flushed it by mixing with kerosene, ran around for a short time, then drained. I assumed the water had entered through worn/torn boots. The next spring I took the inspection cover off because the fluid never drained completely and contaminated the new. I hope someone out there can give you a hand. When I can&#039;t figure it out myself and can&#039;t get the answers, I dive into the unit to figure it out for myself. It does make for more work sometimes, but many times I find the actual cause for the problem while doing so. I certainly gain an understanding for the function of the unit by doing so. I think you have to be mechanically inclined to do most anything with these things. Otherwise you may as well have someone else do it for you. A great site for assistance is Larry Harsin&#039;s Ask the Oliver mechanic. Larry is one of the most unselfish people out there, sharing the wealth of his years as an Oliver mechanic with anyone that cares to pose a question to his site. Give him a try, good luck, and Happy New Year!','',0,'','3u69rwcj',1,0,'',411,0,0),(289,69,1,96,0,'216.201.29.116',1041383289,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Super 55 plug','That is the oil level check plug for the transmission and final drive. The oil should be to that plug when the tractor is setting level. Food for thought on your final drive oil problem. The hydraulic is not hard to remove. It might be smart to remove the unit and then look into the final drive. If you do this it might be wise to take the pan off the hydraulic unit too when it is off and make sure it is clean. I see you 55 is not one of the first ones but it still is 45 year old or older so a good look might be in order.','',0,'','18mtpllq',1,0,'',96,0,0),(290,70,1,51,0,'64.12.96.138',1041438001,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Super 55  drain plug','The super 55 has thee 3 plugsd for the final drive. The front plug drains the transmission the second drains the center area and the rear plug is the rear drive part of the final drive. The gears sling oil to the front and keep the front parts full even though  the oil level plug shows low, to completely drain the oil remove all the plugs. The thick black oil is probably the old type oil used in the verry early tractors, {1920-1930&#039;s}  and probably will not completely drain until it is warmed up considerably. Someone likely put the wrong oil in the tractor. Hope this helps. Delbert','',0,'','13agb3x3',1,0,'',51,0,0),(291,75,1,411,0,'169.207.45.135',1041443509,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','OC-12','Anyone have any info on an OC-12 with a Detroit 2 cyl? I have not been able to find past articles in the magazine and attempts to find any links with search engines have been futile. It appears to be a 1955 model crawler loader. Thanks','',0,'','3e55rfim',1,0,'',411,0,0),(292,75,1,96,0,'216.201.29.205',1041460192,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','OC-12','It has been repowered. Look at the serial number to see if it was originally a gas or diesel OC-12.\r\n Both used Hercules engines.','',0,'','1d96y3i4',1,0,'',96,0,0),(293,76,1,88,0,'64.158.113.177',1041479914,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Doug_424','OC-4 Dozer made by Weldco','I posted this on the Cletrac page,but figured I would try on this side also,,,,,\r\n\r\nHi,I am looking for some information about dozer assemblies made by Weldco, or Weldco Beales. I have an OC-4 series B with a 6 way dozer that I think was made by Weldco. Mine has been modified,, and I need some info, and photo&#039;s to try to restore it to original. I saw one pictured in the Oliver magazine in the July (I think)issue. Does anyone out there have one,or know of one where I could get some photo&#039;s???? Thanks for your help','',0,'','2oksbucj',1,0,'',88,0,0),(294,70,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041524161,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','Project Update','Fluids project completed, thanks for the help guys!;)','',0,'','1k6e0c61',1,0,'',94,0,0),(295,77,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041525629,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','3ph lifting arm leak','I have a leak now that I have added in the proper amount of fluid in the hydraulic system.  It is leaking out the union between the lifting arm and the main body.  The I&amp;amp;T manual shows to replace the oil seals, the entire system needs to come apart including the main inner shaft.  \r\n\r\nI would rather do that project in the summer, is there any way to get this leak to stop (a stop leak product?) or is it possible to get the oil seals out and replaced without tearing the whole thing down?\r\n\r\nSTU','',0,'','6uanve8n',1,0,'',94,0,0),(296,71,1,82,0,'216.106.56.84',1041526952,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jason Epperson','Oliver superior grain drill','I believe the drill you have is a model 26.  I have two of these drills; one is red and the other is green.  Both of these drills have fertilzer and grass seeders on them.  Both have single disk opners.  They are both on steel wheels which are approximately 4 feet tall.  Does this sound like what you have?','',0,'','3ub42a4b',1,0,'',82,0,0),(297,78,3,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1041549289,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','HPOCA Banquet','I was just getting ready to fill out my banquet reservation for the Winter get-together and noticed the $25 price per person. Can someone shed some light on what the menu is? Seems to be a little higher than past years. Just curious before I send my money. WB.','',0,'','2pqytfs2',1,0,'',12,0,0),(298,77,1,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1041550598,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Oil seal','Stu, I think you can replace the seals without removing the shaft. Take the lift arm off and then you should be able to pry the seal out. WB.','',0,'','2nngn59l',1,0,'',12,0,0),(299,79,3,56,0,'216.138.55.79',1041552000,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliver farmer','Oliver Oasis (please read)','Hi all, am trying to set everything up around here.  One of the biggest things is naming my &amp;quot;little&amp;quot; collection of Olivers.  My wife and I have thrown ideas all over.  One I really liked is already taken.  I would like to make sure no one else is using the one I have now picked out.  Please let me know if anyone has any objections to me calling my homestead of Olivers    &amp;quot;Oliver Oasis&amp;quot;.  Input is greatly appreciated.  If you or someone you know is using this, please let me know and I will search for something else.  Thanks all.','',0,'','8nncba9t',1,0,'',56,0,0),(300,80,1,56,0,'216.138.55.79',1041552355,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliver farmer','also posted on HPOCA forum Oliver Oasis (please read)','Hi all, am trying to set everything up around here.  One of the biggest things is naming my &amp;quot;little&amp;quot; collection of Olivers.  My wife and I have thrown ideas all over.  One I really liked is already taken.  I would like to make sure no one else is using the one I have now picked out.  Please let me know if anyone has any objections to me calling my homestead of Olivers  &amp;quot;Oliver Oasis&amp;quot;.  If you or someone you know is using this, please let me know and I will search for something else.  Thanks all.','',0,'','312fzzn8',1,0,'',56,0,0),(301,78,3,67,0,'64.6.2.90',1041552705,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I agree that the prices look high, but we have seen several recent price increases from the hotels on their banquet prices.  While I have not seen the menu for the winter get together, I have seen the pricing for the summer show banquet.  It will be about the same.  The hotel is charging us 19.95 per person, including tax and gratuity, then we try to cover the costs of table decorations, commemorative glasses or something similar on the table, and sometimes rental of the hall.  While the HPOCA does not intend to make any profit on the banquets, we do try to price the tickets at a break even level.  Ususally we find some last minute expenses, and show a small but acceptable loss on the banquet.  We all want to keep the prices as reasonable as possible, but hope that you can understand all of the expenses incurred in setting up a banquet for such a large group.  Terry.','',0,'','unb1cnwj',1,0,'',67,0,0),(302,78,3,12,0,'209.240.212.6',1041555385,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Banquet','Thanks for the reply Terry. I know things are expensive. Just curious, WB.','',0,'','3efz38k5',1,0,'',12,0,0),(303,81,1,100,0,'205.188.209.176',1041615829,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kuenzi','60 RC and extra parts','1944? RC 60 fully restored, new engine, and looks perfect, and lots of extra parts for sale including engine parts and total frame.\r\nSerious inquires email me for pictures or email list of parts you need for your 60 [email:1pg51awb]kuenzi@aol&#46;com[/email:1pg51awb]\r\nPrice of tractor:Taking best offer by Feb 15th\r\nor call 503-949-5131 ask for Ralph\r\n[Edited on 1-3-2003 by kuenzi]\n\n[Edited on 1-3-2003 by kuenzi]','',0,'ACA=','1pg51awb',1,0,'',100,0,0),(304,27,2,101,0,'67.85.160.247',1041629743,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RAF','where to buy','check out this listing on ebay\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;amp;item=3104493144&amp;amp;category=11757:o\">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... ry=11757:o</a><!-- m -->','',0,'ACA=','100wnhgw',1,0,'',101,0,0),(305,77,1,51,0,'64.12.96.138',1041637151,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','three point lift oil seal leak','Wrenchbender is correct. I replaced the seals on the S55 i am restoring. You may need to remove the fender to get enough room to slide the lift arm off, the seal is right there. Hope this helps. Delbert','',0,'ACA=','3f0fwed2',1,0,'',51,0,0),(306,82,1,102,0,'67.28.41.18',1041651389,1,0,1,1,1,0,'scout','1967 gas 1250 oliver--- need grille','','',0,'0','31mpl3b1',1,0,'',102,0,0),(307,83,1,102,0,'67.28.41.18',1041651724,1,0,1,1,1,0,'scout','1967 gas 1250 oliver--- need grille','Almost have restoration of this tractor done --\r\nexcept no grille!!!  have asked maibach,rick,s agri-parts,and wonder where else to try----this is a great little tractor and have seen few to none at last two shows---thanks in advance---','',0,'ACA=','34rwfo0f',1,0,'',102,0,0),(308,83,1,17,0,'216.93.69.181',1041653214,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Try this page, <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.sphosting.com/dsl/fiat.html\">http://www.sphosting.com/dsl/fiat.html</a><!-- m --> he has lots of Fiat parts, including body parts.','',0,'ACA=','1r2xvt7t',1,0,'',17,0,0),(309,83,1,96,0,'216.201.29.154',1041701515,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','1250 Grill','Also look at the Cockshutt Shed trading post. A 1250 Cockshutt will have the same grill, but not the Cockshutt 411.','',0,'ACA=','i4n1d3b3',1,0,'',96,0,0),(310,80,1,51,0,'64.12.96.138',1041790532,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Oliver Oasis','Out of curisoty i typed Oliver Oasis in the search bar,two Oliver Oasis listing came up, you may like to read them. Didn&#039;t see any refeerence to Oliver tractors though.  The two were by the same person, a Junifer Oliver.  <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"www://mcfeth.com/pop/oasi.htm\">www://mcfeth.com/pop/oasi.htm</a><!-- m -->                <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://archive.mail-list.com/heartwarmers/msg00688.html\">http://archive.mail-list.com/heartwarmers/msg00688.html</a><!-- m -->       I hope this sheds some light on your thoughts. Delbert','',0,'ACA=','3tqdwfs8',1,0,'',51,0,0),(311,47,1,70,0,'209.150.251.33',1041796650,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','No.2 Hayrake teeth','Thank You Bill Brandt.  However were these NOS (New Old Stock) teeth or new teeth? What was the part number on these teeth?','',0,'ACA=','3b16nlm4',1,0,'',70,0,0),(312,58,1,18,0,'24.83.180.236',1041796829,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Super 55','','I got  hooked when I was doing research on finding my first tractor.  I grew up and lived in the city and suburbs all my life. I finally got a small piece of property.  I have always loved old cars, trucks, and tractors.  Now I have an excuse to own a tractor.  I was reading and searchng on the internet to learn what I could about tractors.  Seemed like Oliver was such a good company. Always working on comfort and safety of the operator.  I looked at John Deere and Farmall, but looked at a 77 one day.  It was too much tractor and the guy wanted too much money too.  I live on the west coast in BC and their aren&#039;t a lot of Olivers.  Finally one day there was an ad in the paper for an Oliver. I didn&#039;t even ask the model number went to look at it and it was a Super 55.  I had never seen one before. I bought it without really giving it much of a look over.  It ran, and everything worked.  As it turned out it was leaking transmission oil so I had it split and new seal put in.  Since then I have used it on the property, but now I have the final drive taken apart.  I replaced all the seals and bearings and have everything back in but the pinions. I also had the tires removed and working on the rims right now.  One was rusted around the stem opeing, so I welded it up.  YOu can&#039;t hardly see where I welded it.  I am in the process of cleaning them up and getting ready to paint them.  Got some new rear tires on order too.  I still have lots of work to do on it, but I am taking my time and learning as I go. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'ACA=','2ws5nz5j',1,0,'',18,0,0),(313,58,1,47,0,'67.241.135.69',1041818115,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Good topic!','Hey,\r\nThis would make great material for a series in the mag! It is obvious that there is too much potential for just one article, and I believe the members would find the subject interesting.','',0,'ACA=','2za7bzq9',1,0,'',47,0,0),(314,69,1,47,0,'67.241.135.69',1041819532,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Hey,Stu,\r\nJohn gives some good advise. I suggest that you do away with the I&amp;amp;T, they are not that good. Contact the Floyd County Museum in Charles City, IA, they have reproduced manuals from the factory file copies, and these are good. Also, you should throw away that bolt on your top link, and use a pin instead. The threads tend to increase wear on that part, and parts are expensive.','',0,'ACA=','1d8ozkh8',1,0,'',47,0,0),(315,84,1,17,0,'216.93.70.120',1041819841,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','Your favorite generation','What is you favorite &amp;quot;generation&amp;quot; of Hart-Parr or Oliver tractor?\r\nClick your choice on the poll above to vote and then click submit. You must be logged in to vote, and it will only allow you to vote once.','',0,'ACA=','h6gxpu39',1,0,'',17,0,0),(316,65,3,14,0,'68.14.174.154',1041895226,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','implement database','I, too think this is a great idea.  It sounds like organization is what is needed.  The info is in various places and needs to be organized into one accessible location.  It would likely start slow, then build and expand as it went along.  You could possibly break down the implement categories such as &amp;quot;Tillage&amp;quot; (plows, discs, cultivators) or &amp;quot;Forage&amp;quot; (mowers, rakes, conditioners, balers); or break down further into detailed categories such as combines or cornpickers and assign to volunteers to gather and assemble the info.  Another way would be to cover a certain range of years.  Some folks out there have full line product catalogs, I know this does not specify paint colors or years built, but it&#039;s a start.  The club would have to decide to alocate someone to head this up, and see if the general membership would agree that it was useful. dwm','',0,'ACA=','3encobeg',1,0,'',14,0,0),(317,69,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041895710,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','Done!','Done!  New class 2 pin, and talked with the nice folks in Charles City.  Parts manual, and operators manual as well.  Thanks guys','',0,'ACA=','153pdkk8',1,0,'',94,0,0),(318,77,1,94,0,'192.219.127.235',1041895835,1,0,1,1,1,0,'stu','Thanks','Thanks, I will order a couple and see if I cant get that to work!','',0,'ACA=','3i5i7f5u',1,0,'',94,0,0),(319,84,1,47,0,'65.238.36.101',1042010909,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','You forgot the best category.','Hey, Chris,\r\nYou forgot to put on Crawlers and all the rest of &#039;em. How can I vote if the correct category is not there?','',0,'ACA=','1lb3ntj6',1,0,'',47,0,0),(320,75,1,47,0,'65.238.36.101',1042011392,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','That is right.','An OC 12 is basically a BG or BD upgraded. All these tractors have 6 cylinder Hercules. But, I think a 2 cyl Detroit repower could be kind of neat. I like to see sensible field modifications, just so long as they aren&#039;t on historically significant pieces.','',0,'ACA=','2lychjgh',1,0,'',47,0,0),(321,78,3,47,0,'65.238.36.101',1042012095,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Terry is right about those costs, when we rent the room, there is costs included in the meals, minimums to be met(fortunately we have been lucky on this lately). But, it never fails that somewhere there will be a contengency to be satisfied. Another factor is location, St. Louis cost more than the VFW hall in cornfield county. You get what you pay for, location is expensive.\r\nActually compared to other events I attend HPOCA Banquet prices are a bargain, WV Fairs and Festivals Assn. cost $40 per plate, plus $75 to get in, Country Music Assn Awards, $350 for a cheap seat, plus a membership fee(mine is $600 per year). I ain&#039;t complaining about $25.\n\n[Edited on 8-1-2003 by Andy]','',0,'','32vzm53a',1,0,'',47,0,0),(322,58,1,105,0,'65.80.115.157',1042042296,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','I got hooked on Olivers when my dad brought home our first Antique tractor, a 1950 77 Standard Diesel.  This was a pretty long time ago, because people really hadn&#039;t started collecting then.  He had the bug to pull it because an antique pullers club had just formed in our area.  It didn&#039;t turn out to be the puller we thought it would be until we added the turbo!  But that ended up being a bad deal because we smoked the clutch and didn&#039;t have a class to pull it in anyway.  But it was fun.  By then I was beating all of the IH and JD boys with an 88 gas, so the 77 became a show toy.  Since then we have added 25 more to the collection, along with about 80 of other makes!  13 acres sure fills up quick!','',0,'','iyiurzqr',1,0,'',105,0,0),(323,85,1,105,0,'65.80.115.157',1042043568,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','What&#039;s in your collection?','I am always interested to know what everyone else has.  I will start off. \r\n1850 G WF\r\n1650 D WF\r\n995 GM \r\n950 D\r\n880 D RC\r\n770 D RC\r\n(3) 770 G RC\r\n(2) SUPER 99GMs\r\nSUPER 88 IND G\r\nOLD STYLE 88 IND\r\n(3) 88 G RC\r\n(2) 77 G RC\r\n77 D RC\r\n77 D STD\r\n(5) 70 RC\r\n70 STD\r\nThere may be more that I dont remember/know about, because dad picks them up all the time.\r\nI am hoping to add an OC-6 soon, and I really want a 2255 bad.\r\nI want everybody to reply, cmon, its fun.','',0,'','30ztatlu',1,0,'',105,0,0),(324,84,1,107,0,'195.93.49.7',1042059623,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliver90owner','','Where would the Oliver 80 and 90 fall in your list?\r\nSame, or nearly same as,  the Oliver Hart Parrs, but year wise along with the Olivers 60 and 70.  I will vote when I am more sure of sections!\r\nRegards, RAB','',0,'','39awed50',1,0,'',107,0,0),(325,84,1,17,0,'216.93.70.1',1042063182,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','The maximum number of choices in a poll are 10. I was going to add crawlers and found out I was at ten choices already. I guess that will have to be on another poll.\r\n\r\nI figure the 80 and 90 should go with the 60 and 70. I didn&#039;t want to type every model, but I can see where I made a mistake calling them early styled, since the 80 and 90 weren&#039;t really styled.','',0,'','388c3f39',1,0,'',17,0,0),(326,85,1,67,0,'64.6.2.76',1042068004,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','We started about 13 or 14 years ago with just 2 tractors, 1 for me, and 1 for my son.  No we have a few more.  60RC, 60 STD, 60IND, 60 WF, Cockshutt 60RC, Cockshutt 60 STD, 70 RC, 70 RC SF, HP 70 RC, 70 IND, 70 Orchard, Cockshutt 70 STD, 80 RC, 80 IND, 80 STD,88 RC old style, 1850 Dsl WF, 18-36, 28-44,18-27,Cletrac BGHS, and a 50 Ricefield.  \r\nWould appreciate hearing from anyone who has any information on the 50.  Seems to be an oddball variation of a 90, with high clearance front axle and Ricefield equipment, and has an agricultural serial #, rather than an industrial serial #.  If you are ever in Western IL, give us a call and stop by.  Terry.','',0,'','2v8xbjjz',1,0,'',67,0,0),(327,85,1,35,0,'65.82.174.112',1042070412,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver equipment','I own the following:\r\n1964 Oliver 550 Special\r\n1960 Oliver 3pt. cultivator\r\n1972 Oliver 75 lawnmower\r\n\r\nI have restored and sold the following:\r\n1963 OC 4 G 68 inch\r\n1951 HG 68 inch\r\n\r\nI also collect Oliver toys.\r\n\r\nI am looking for another HG, OC3 or OC4','',0,'','3kf77xdd',1,0,'',35,0,0),(328,85,1,411,0,'169.207.45.114',1042075510,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','Married with children 17,19, &amp;amp; 20\r\n\r\n1944 70 Std  308723\r\n1946 MM RTU with cultivators\r\n1948 60 RC   622066\r\n1949 77 RC Gas   324364\r\n1958 770 RC Std gas  65157\r\n1962 880 RC Adj Wide Diesel   117660\r\n\r\n2 row Oliver Superior planter\r\nOliver Superior drill on steel\r\na few 2-14 pull type plows of various vintage\r\n2 row mounted cultivators\r\na few toys\r\nsome literature\r\n\r\nand tons of dreams\r\n\r\nHey 995, I can free up some of those 13 acres for you. Am willing to kick the MM out of my shed to make room for one of those GM diesels.\n\n[Edited on 1-18-2003 by Mark]','',0,'','3buog4qb',1,0,'',411,0,0),(330,85,1,18,0,'24.83.180.236',1042093581,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Super 55','small collection','I am humbled by your collections.  I only have a lone Super 55.  The only way my collection could any smaller would be if it was a Super 44 or peddle tractors. However, I feel lucky to own it.  It&#039;s been a lot of fun hunting for it, and working on it.  I will have it restored one day.','',0,'','3mixu3if',1,0,'',18,0,0),(331,85,1,105,0,'65.80.115.157',1042137074,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Hey Mark, I bet you would help me out!  Seriously though, I feel really lucky to have those GMs.  We got those back before the prices got so out of hand.  I just wish that we would have picked up one of the many 98 MFs that I used to see. But we thought why have the copy when you can have the real thing.  OH WELL!\r\nI am glad to see the MMs and Cockshutts people listed.  Some Oliver collectors still try and brush them off.  I say that they are all part of the family and I like them all!\r\nHere&#039;s ours.\r\nCockshutt:\r\n20\r\n40 Gas ADJ WF\r\n40 Gas NF\r\n50 Gas ADJ WF\r\nMM:\r\n670 Gas WF\r\nM5 Gas WF\r\nG Diesel\r\n(2) G Gas\r\nG LP\r\nUB Special LP WF\r\nUB Special LP NF\r\n(2) UB G NF\r\n(2) UTS LP\r\n(2) UTU LP\r\nUTS Gas\r\nZ \r\nR\r\nBF\r\nMF:(MM)\r\n95\r\n97','',0,'','1v8v8pli',1,0,'',105,0,0),(332,58,1,107,0,'195.93.50.14',1042153528,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliver90owner','','Dad bought 90 new in &#039;48 a month after I was born.\r\nIt was reliable, until it needed overhauling and dropped a valve (when left unattended at fast idle to stop it &#039;oiling up&#039;  Seized the piston and I removed same with the aid of a sledge hammer (liner did not budge!) It stood in a barn for about 25 years with no head or rods/pistons and would have been scrapped or sold for spares.\r\nI could not let that happen so bought it from my brother, took it on and repaired it slowy.  Needs repainting again now but have driven it hundreds of miles in the past few years.\r\nHave added a &#039;44 Standard 80  (still in kit form in the garage) and recently a &#039;39 Cletrac HG42 (was siezed but now runs).\r\nSo basically kept the tractor I grew up with and then.....\r\nRegards, RAB','',0,'','34pkkmyq',1,0,'',107,0,0),(333,47,1,40,0,'152.163.189.68',1042167001,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Number 2 Rake Teeth','I don&#039;t know if they were NOS or something else.  Could be something that AGCO now carries, but is a sustitute.\r\n\r\nI will see if I can get the part number from my brother.','',0,'','o4lynn8i',1,0,'',40,0,0),(334,86,5,10611,0,'216.93.70.212',1042177698,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','upgrade','I upgraded the boards tonight. Hopefully this should fix a few bugs.\r\nIf anybody has any trouble, please let me know.','',0,'','2otfsgrk',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(336,85,1,26,0,'216.43.146.60',1042215806,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','Oliver stuff','The biggest portion of my collection consists of sales literature, old photos and other memorabilia.  The literature comes in very handy when looking for material for the magazine.   I have quite a few Oliver toys and several walking plows.  I also have a nice horse-drawn manure spreader.  My tractor collection consists of the 77 RC, gas that I use to farm my 10 acres with.  I also have a 66 vegetable special with a single front wheel that I got from California.  It&#039;s patiently awaiting a little TLC, but eventually that will be my show tractor.   I use all Oliver equipment on the farm, but it&#039;s part of Dad&#039;s &amp;quot;you store it, you can use it&amp;quot; loan program.   It&#039;s just an opinion, but I think Oliver had the best looking tractor out there.','',0,'','1m2agr9t',1,0,'',26,0,0),(337,58,1,26,0,'216.43.146.60',1042216345,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','Hook, line and sinker','I got &amp;quot;officially&amp;quot; hooked when Bob Tallman signed me up to the HPOCA in 1992.  Having grown up in an all-Oliver family, I didn&#039;t realize Oliver&#039;s importance to the industry until I was exposed to the HPOCA.  My grandfather was an Oliver dealer in Granity City and Hamel, IL.  Having over 30 cousins, we did a lot of shade-tree farming with our Oliver toys whenever we went to Grandpa&#039;s.  We still have the first new tractor that Grandpa ever sold.  It was a 1936 18-28 on round spoke rubber tires.  Someday it will be restored again and taken to shows.  I can&#039;t even imagine my life now without being surrounded by Oliver tractors and my Oliver friends.','',0,'','2x9w7ekp',1,0,'',26,0,0),(338,85,1,23,0,'12.28.99.181',1042265769,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','Oliver collection','Heres our household collection:\r\n\r\n&#039;47 Oliver 60 RC NF\r\n&#039;48 Oliver 60 RC NF w/cast rear wheels\r\n&#039;48 Oliver 60 RC WF\r\n&#039;38 Oliver 70 RC NF\r\n&#039;57 Oliver Super 55 gas\r\n&#039;53 Oliver 66 RC WF\r\n&#039;49 Oliver 77 RC NF\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 77 Standard\r\n&#039;55 Oliver Super 77 WF\r\n&#039;50 Oliver 88 Standard\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 88 RC NF\r\n&#039;52 Oliver 88 RC WF\r\n&#039;53 Oliver 99 gas\r\n&#039;63 Oliver 1600 RC WF gas\r\n&#039;63 Oliver 1900 MFWD\r\n&#039;68 Oliver 2150 MFWD HD\r\n\r\nImplements:\r\nOliver 4 row corn planter\r\nSuperior grain drill\r\nPlowmaster 100 2-14\r\nOliver 10&#039; disc\r\nOliver 14&#039; disc\r\nOliver 3-14 trailer plow\r\n(2) Oliver 4-14 trailer plow \r\nOliver potato planter\r\nOliver 107 hay rake\r\nOliver walking plow\r\nOliver 6&#039; disc\r\nOliver 431 combine\r\n\r\nThat is our collection as of right now.  But it will probably grow in the future.  Jeff.\n\n[Edited on 1-20-2004 by Jeff]','',0,'','2m5iv0xd',1,0,'',23,0,0),(340,89,1,56,0,'216.138.55.71',1042329770,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','another addition','well i added another to the oliver oasis. just unloaded my oliver model #1 two roe rotary hoe. has anyone elese seen or have one of these. i am now looking for the hoe wheel. the part # is RC-785X. if anybody finds one or more of these i would like to know.','',0,'','z2rz4c67',1,0,'',56,0,0),(342,85,1,113,0,'216.145.201.80',1042350138,1,0,1,1,1,0,'66oliver660','','Here is our collection. We started about 13 years ago. \r\n\r\n66 RC, gas single front\r\n66 RC, gas, wide front\r\n66 RC, gas, NF\r\n66 RC, Diesel, nf\r\n66 standard\r\n66 industrial\r\n66 orchard\r\n660 Gas wfe and single front\r\n660 diesel, wide front and NF\r\nS66 single front\r\nS44\r\n440\r\nOC-6, 68\r\n77 rc, wide front\r\n880 gas wheatland\r\n550 gas special\r\n550 gas\r\n60 RC\r\n1650 wfe (2800 hours)\r\n1655\r\n88 RC Nf\r\n770 gas wide front\r\n1600 High Crop LP\r\n1755 High Crop\r\nS166 power unit\r\n\r\nEquipment includes\r\nmanure spreader\r\nhay crimper\r\n207 hay rake\r\n10&#039; disk\r\n10&#039; grain drill on steel\r\n62t baler\r\nrunning gear\r\n12&#039; disk\r\n2 &amp;amp; 3 btm trail type plows\r\n415 sickle mower\r\n76&#039; graindrill 12&#039;\r\n2R corn planter\r\n\r\nOur collection&#039;s always changing.  Looking for a old style 88 standard or wfe.','',0,'','cj7o2xvk',1,0,'',113,0,0),(343,47,1,70,0,'209.150.251.25',1042396363,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','hayrake teeth','Ok thanks!\r\n    -Paul','',0,'','1i9z41uz',1,0,'',70,0,0),(344,85,1,70,0,'209.150.251.25',1042398009,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','Our collection','Here is our collection.  Started May of 1988.\r\n1936 HP 70 Serial #202082\r\n1938 70\r\n1940 70(grandfather&#039;s-bought new)\r\n1941 70 Serial #238466\r\n1941 70 Serial#238470\r\n1941 70 Serial#238471\r\n1942 70 Serial#243105\r\n1948 70 Serial #265472\r\n1950 RC 77 Serial #329925C77D(repainted)\r\n1951 RC 77 Serial #337680C77C\r\n1951 RC 77 WFE \r\n1950 RC 88 Serial#129016C88F(original)\r\nAll Gas.\r\n1955 Super 77 gas,WFE Serial#14-770-705\r\n1957 Super 77 gas,NF Serial#missing\r\n1958 880 WFE,gas(being restored)\r\n1965 770 WFE,gas\r\nMost tractors are used on farm.\r\n\r\nEquipment:\r\nOliver #2 Hayloader good original condition\r\nOliver #2 Hayrake good condition\r\nOliver #82 sickle bar mower-needs help\r\nOliver #22A mower\r\nCockshutt &amp;quot;15A&amp;quot; mower exc. original cond.\r\nOliver #19 Bale Kicker\r\nOliver #112 2-row Corn planter \r\nOliver 1026A Running Gear\r\nOliver 1095QD cultivators\r\nOliver 4240 2-bottom trailer plow\r\nOliver 2-row side dressing unit \r\nOliver horse-drawn hayrake, 3-bar\r\nOliver Chilled Plow Works Walking Plow\r\nOliver 62-T \r\n\r\nAlso many Oliver toys and some literature.\r\n\r\nMore stuff is coming in all the time.\r\n\n\n[Edited on 12-21-2003 by paulivercollector]','',0,'','17ggshcb',1,0,'',70,0,0),(345,58,1,70,0,'209.150.251.25',1042398736,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','How I got hooked!','I got hooked after using my grandfather&#039;s 1940 RC 70, this was after he died in 1977.  This was when I found out what a good reliable well-built tractor an Oliver was.  Then I started collecting in 1987 and have not stopped since.  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2oeoc0xk',1,0,'',70,0,0),(346,90,3,14,0,'68.14.174.154',1042402932,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','Vote','Just an observation.  I&#039;m glad to be given the opportunity to vote, and find it disappointing that just under 800 people voted out of some 5,500 to 6,000 members.  It could be an indication that members are satisfied with the way things are run, which is good--I am too.  If not, a person once told me &#039;if you don&#039;t vote, don&#039;t complain about the way things are run&#039;.  Also just want to let the officers and  all those involved know their work is appreciated.  Thanks.\n\n[Edited on 1-12-2003 by dwm]','',0,'','iz5rd5xf',1,0,'',14,0,0),(347,85,1,114,0,'161.184.23.99',1042404287,1,0,1,1,1,0,'K BUSBY','my collection','I have a fairly new collection that I&#039;m \r\nworking on and adding to.\r\n1-oliver-hart parr70 Seriel#301215\r\n1-oliver 70 standard Seriel#305535\r\n1-oliver 60 standard Seriel#413234\r\n1-oliver 66 standard Seriel#470480\r\n1-oliver 88 standard no seriel #\r\n1-oliver 88 super seriel#18041\r\n1-oliver 77 standard no serisl#\r\n2-oliver 77 diesels #94006,90016\r\n1-oliver 550 gas Seriel#88813519','',0,'','36pgn334',1,0,'',114,0,0),(348,91,1,56,0,'216.138.55.72',1042412358,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','HPOCA National summer show','can anyone tell me if there is going to be a portable unloading dock at the show in Penfield this year. i may have a ride for my 77, but its on a regular semi-flat bed trailer and we need to know. any help is greatly appreciated.','',0,'','9ql5s38c',1,0,'',56,0,0),(349,90,3,47,0,'65.238.36.107',1042420200,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Hey, dwm,\r\nThis election had an extremely high return of ballots compared to normal. I was expecting to see somewhere in the 300-400 bracket, if we were lucky! What we got exceeded all my expectations, and I am pleased with the quantity of votes.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','179ccl4r',1,0,'',47,0,0),(351,85,1,116,0,'63.173.216.187',1042429248,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','collection','my collection includes: 1938 (99), S77D, 2 COOP 30,AC WD,and a Graham Bradley','',0,'','1g8h76z8',1,0,'',116,0,0),(352,91,1,7,0,'205.188.209.44',1042429420,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Unloading facilities','Basically if you can get it on a truck, we can get it off. We have temporary and permanent facilities, hoist tractors and fork lifts. Visit our web site at <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->','',0,'','3invzasp',1,0,'',7,0,0),(355,85,1,81,0,'192.100.4.55',1042494106,1,0,1,0,1,0,'ahk3','','At present I have a 1944 60 Standard, a 16 horsepower outboard motor, an 88 and 1850 pedal tractor, a few hundred toys, and a lot of literature and signs. I hope to find a nice 70 standard in the next year or so.','',0,'','3ow9zynv',1,0,'',81,0,0),(356,93,1,117,0,'24.159.5.107',1042494205,1,0,1,1,1,0,'bigbull22','Info On Oliver 1937 -Standard- 70','Does any one have info on a 1937 oliver standard 70 tractor. The tractor has been in my family since it was bought in 1937.\r\n\r\nif anyone has or knows of these please reply','',0,'','3mbau75x',1,0,'',117,0,0),(357,85,1,117,0,'24.159.5.107',1042494404,1,0,1,1,1,0,'bigbull22','oliver standard 70','hey what year is the standard 70 have any info. I have a 1937 standard 70 in running condition. please reply','',0,'','2tsts0l2',1,0,'',117,0,0),(361,94,1,118,0,'67.120.233.132',1042559875,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tomwalther','Weight','I need to know the approx. weight of a 1959 Oliver 660.  I will be shipping it from Vista, CA to Somerset, KY - we are moving.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','28sdrdky',1,0,'',118,0,0),(362,95,1,100,0,'64.12.96.106',1042569233,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kuenzi','RC 60 Parts tractor','Located in Oregon \r\nRC 60 parts tractor have most every thing including engine parts. Misssing hood sheet metal $20 for all\n\n[Edited on 1-14-2003 by kuenzi]','',0,'','2mf0t0na',1,0,'',100,0,0),(364,96,5,40,0,'205.188.208.7',1042576532,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Time Displayed for the Posts','Just wondering how the times for posts are computed?  Just left the Oliver forum and it had entries for 14-1-2003, 8:14 PM and 6:33 PM.\r\n\r\nAs I write this it is 14-1-2003 and my computer shows 3:31 PM Eastern Standard Time.\r\n\r\nNot a big deal, but I&#039;d like to know how it works.  If OLIVER Corp could have been able to see into the future like this, maybe we&#039;d still be able to buy new ones! :=)','',0,'','2eb7cy59',1,0,'',40,0,0),(365,94,1,35,0,'65.82.173.154',1042577358,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','660 weight','According to one source the 660D weighs4147lbs and the 660G weighs4047. I think this is somewhat high. The 660 advertisment for 59 indicated the tractor weighed 3378 gas version.\r\nThe Super 66G was tested at the Nebraska Testing Lab. weighing 3943. If you have weights and fluid I would guess 4000lbs.','',0,'','30oazr8l',1,0,'',35,0,0),(366,58,1,65,0,'216.183.131.250',1042580972,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','Hooked they follow me home!!','I started with nieghbours 60 standard ,dad had started with 60 cockshutt row crop and they keep following me home. Started with 60 then 88 standard and now have 25 or so mostly standards. We use them for our farming operation and show them also .&amp;quot;Work our show tractors and Show our work tractors&amp;quot; Jioned HPOCA orgination as soon as I heard of it here in Canada {member #316] and have enjoyed fellowship at winter convention and showed at a couple of summer shows. Hard to get away to summer shows as farming gets in the way sometimes !','',0,'','1cpmwf7u',1,0,'',65,0,0),(367,58,1,116,0,'63.173.216.119',1042594484,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','I got hooked 4yrs ago, helping dad work on his Graham. Wanted a toy of my own. Purchased 1938 (99) at a sale in New York. Several more tractors have joined it. have found it&#039;s easier to get tractors than it is to get them fixed','',0,'','2nj3hehy',1,0,'',116,0,0),(368,97,1,116,0,'63.173.216.119',1042595002,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','waterpump','I need your help! waterpump leak like a seive, needs new seal. 1938 (99) 4cly gas has newer style waterpump 1946 or newer, carbon disk type seal. please help','',0,'','3pyqnyqs',1,0,'',116,0,0),(369,95,1,411,0,'169.207.45.79',1042595425,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','Let me know if you decide to part it out. I am in need of a right fender and a 15 inch pressed steel front wheel. <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:mwn@execpc.com\">mwn@execpc.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','2ka40hcu',1,0,'',411,0,0),(370,96,5,10611,0,'216.93.69.218',1042605764,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','','The times are computed as Greenwich Mean Time which is over in England. It had been on Eastern time, but when I upgraded the board recently, it switched back to GMT. I have been trying to switch the default time back to Eastern, but without luck so far.\r\nThe best way to get the correct time for the posts is, when you are logged in, click on the control panel/ options link on the main page or in the upper right hand part of your screen. Then click on edit profile. One of the options is to choose which time zone you are in. Choose the appropriate time zone and then click on the edit profile button at the bottom. After that, whenever you are logged in, the board will automatically convert the post times and dates to your local time. If you are browsing without being logged in, you will get GMT. \r\n\r\nSeeing into the future would be nice. Now if only I could figure out how to apply GMT to the ads for Olivers in different publications.','',0,'','eez4o95f',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(371,90,3,65,0,'216.183.131.250',1042660616,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','Vote','I&#039;m glad of the participation of both the voters and the people who let their names stand as it would be a huge commitment of time and money to serve on HPOCA board seeing as it is a world wide organization. Also glad we are in country&#039;s where we can vote for who ever WE want!','',0,'','2uzzo6hm',1,0,'',65,0,0),(373,98,1,121,0,'66.222.85.186',1042682281,1,0,1,0,1,0,'SwenNilsson','Oliver 80 Row Crop','What is a reasonable price to pay for a mostly complete 1942 Oliver 80 Rowcrop on rubber (poor rubber!)  The engine is stuck, but appears restorable.','',0,'','w77fqbx6',1,0,'',121,0,0),(374,98,1,35,0,'67.34.172.54',1042684657,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver','If sheet metal is good and most of the original parts are there I feel the tractor is worth in the $500-750 range.','',0,'','1akdtm3d',1,0,'',35,0,0),(376,99,5,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1042769019,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Membership form','I&#039;ve been searching the site looking for a place to print the form for my membership renewal. Is it here some where? could it be? I know it&#039;s on my latest issue, but I would prefer not to cut it up. Is that nuts or what? John:D','',0,'','20z4cry0',1,0,'',7,0,0),(378,90,3,47,0,'65.238.36.22',1042833781,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re: Canada Grant','I agree! Holding office is a huge commitment, something like &#039;but, watch the damn thing jump the track and see who catches hell!&#039; Our officers need a pat on the back when things are going well, this rarely happens, as it is a thankless job! One thing for sure, the winner gets to attend both the Winter Get Together, and the Summer Show, for 2 years, if Mom dies put her on ice &#039;til monday! Cause you can&#039;t let the members down! Say &#039;Hi!&#039; to Marie, and stay warm!\n\n[Edited on 17-1-2003 by Andy]','',0,'','1t6714tj',1,0,'',47,0,0),(379,65,3,47,0,'65.238.36.22',1042834692,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re: dwm','That is all fine and good, but it will take both time and money. Too often folks take advantage of HPOCA&#039;s data, then refuse to join. So, this should be restricted to &#039;members only&#039;! To be realistic, when the money stops the wheels quit rolling.','',0,'','1yq0h2xd',1,0,'',47,0,0),(380,100,1,124,0,'12.150.142.7',1042847412,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','2255 Oliver','Is the 3150 Caterpillar engine in the 2255 Oliver a good engine?  I&#039;ve heard the 3208 engines are not the most desirable in the world but haven&#039;t heard much about the 3150. \r\nThanks,\r\nGreg','',0,'','38s5ycby',1,0,'',124,0,0),(381,100,1,116,0,'63.173.221.37',1042849476,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','i don&#039;t know much about 3150 cats but a 3208 i wouldn&#039;t touch with a 10&#039; pole. have been told these are thow aways, if you find one with 1500hrs without being overhauled it is a keeper.','',0,'','2fkmpnio',1,0,'',116,0,0),(382,100,1,12,0,'209.240.212.6',1042859774,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','3150 Cat','The 3150 is the earlier version of the 3208. It is less cu in and has an inline injection pump. They are both decent engines. 3208s were called &amp;quot;throw aways&amp;quot; because they do not have sleeves and have to be bored oversized or replaced. WB.','',0,'','2mbebh49',1,0,'',12,0,0),(383,100,1,51,0,'152.163.189.98',1042936224,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','3150 cat engine in 2255','I bought a new 2255 with the 3150 engine, used it for 21 years, it still had the original rings when I retired and sold it, I did put the bearing kit in as that was a recall.  The tractor did not Know when to quit, pulled a 6-16 bottum plow with no problem. Blowed one head gasget put in some rebuilt injector nozzles and an intake manifold with a stress crack. It had excellent fuel      economy.  The tractor had some oil leaks,not the engine,  &amp;quot;Great Tractor&amp;quot; My opionion. Delbert','',0,'','2dacdboa',1,0,'',51,0,0),(384,99,5,26,0,'216.43.146.162',1042939533,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','membership application','Go to the magazine page and click on the magazine.  A membership application will appear.  You can fill it out on-line, but then you&#039;ll have to print it off and mail it in.','',0,'','2l74cltx',1,0,'',26,0,0),(385,47,1,70,0,'209.150.251.18',1043006810,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','','Did your brother restore his hayrake?\r\n\r\nWhat was the part number on the teeth?','',0,'','3nvhrtxn',1,0,'',70,0,0),(386,101,2,51,0,'205.188.208.6',1043009750,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Hp 70','Does anyone know if all of the 1935 production had the hook on side panels or did the later ones have the hinge type of panels, and when was the casting date under the transmission started. Delbert','',0,'','yvy4le6l',1,0,'',51,0,0),(387,47,1,40,0,'64.12.96.166',1043036637,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Oliver Number 2 Hayrake','He took it apart, tightened up things that needed it, sandblasted it and painted it.  As for new parts I think the only thing he replaced were the broken teeth.  As I said they were not NOS.  The replacements only have 3 coils on the spring.  He has now painted and reassembled the rake.  It &amp;quot;works&amp;quot;, but he does not intend to ever rake with it.  He was going to look for the part number, but has not found it to date.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','3hb5bhnj',1,0,'',40,0,0),(388,97,1,119,0,'208.189.21.133',1043106376,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Lee W','seal kit','The seal kit No. is AS 358 A. I bought one from White several years ago it is a discontinued No. now. You might be able to find one in dealer stock somewhere.','',0,'','19l858yu',1,0,'',119,0,0),(389,102,1,125,0,'24.247.105.98',1043115824,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Warnd00sr','Oliver 70?','I have the opportunity to buy a Oliver 70 row crop to restore at a estate sale for $250-$300 it ran as of 2 years ago.\r\n\r\nIt is a 1948 serial number 266238\r\nThe side cover shrouds are missing and the tires are wethered bad but still hold air. It would not take much to get it running(I think) The metal is in good condition and the general shape of the tractor is good. It also has the cultivator bars on the tractor but no cultivators.\r\n\r\nWhat more should I look for or should I walk away? I would like to restore an old tractor but I dont want to get in over my head!\r\n\r\n[Edited on 1-21-2003 by Warnd00sr]\n\n[Edited on 1-21-2003 by Warnd00sr]','',0,'','1my1zbsa',1,0,'',125,0,0),(390,99,5,7,0,'63.250.73.179',1043120967,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Thanks','BTW, hope to be in Nokomis Saturday. John:D','',0,'','3gbum9c9',1,0,'',7,0,0),(391,102,1,411,0,'169.207.45.174',1043158356,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','For that kind of money I don&#039;t see how it can be over your head because you could always part it out for more money, even if it doesn&#039;t run! You can&#039;t go swimming if you don&#039;t get your feet wet... Good luck!','',0,'','v8z0xk63',1,0,'',411,0,0),(392,47,1,411,0,'169.207.45.174',1043158687,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','I buy teeth for my rake at Fleet &amp;amp; Farm. Don&#039;t know if you have them locally, but I&#039;d just look for some type of supplier for AG supplies and you should be able to find a selection of teeth to choose from. Any AGCO dealer will be able to come up with teeth as well. IH uses  teeth on some of their 5 bar rakes that utilize the coiled spring type of tooth. Good luck!','',0,'','20bmboz9',1,0,'',411,0,0),(393,98,1,411,0,'169.207.45.174',1043159093,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mark','','Since an 80 RC can be found complete in running condition for $2000 or less, I wouldn&#039;t want to pay much more than $500 for one that is stuck that needs tires. It would certainly depend on condition, completeness, and serial number. Tires are not cheap and you most likely are looking at an engine rebuild.','',0,'','1gopxhd8',1,0,'',411,0,0),(394,102,1,125,0,'24.247.105.98',1043161035,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Warnd00sr','','Thanks,\r\n\r\nI want to restore it, I just dont know what I am getting into I guess. Like you said for under $400 I can always part it out.','',0,'','35fct6pa',1,0,'',125,0,0),(395,103,1,126,0,'216.95.137.20',1043181392,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Farmerich','Peanut Planters and Cotton Planters','Did Oliver make these  planters or did A.B.Farquahar make them for Oliver? Is a peanut planter a modification of a corn planter? Is a cotton planter same as a bean drill? AS you can see I am from a part of the country where there isn&#039;t these crops grown.  Thanks','',0,'','3402kgtw',1,0,'',126,0,0),(396,98,1,67,0,'64.6.2.47',1043198427,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Although an overhaul and tires are expensive, you have to remember that an 80 will easily part out for $80-$1000, if reasonably complete.  Just my 2 cents.  Terry.','',0,'','3e2gcnxc',1,0,'',67,0,0),(397,97,1,116,0,'63.173.216.252',1043201911,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','Lee W. thank you for part #. maybe i&#039;ll have more luck now.','',0,'','1x4bcqwj',1,0,'',116,0,0),(398,104,1,128,0,'152.163.188.39',1043203200,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill','Oliver 2155','Looking, for information about Oliver 2155?','',0,'','m7b0roxk',1,0,'',128,0,0),(399,104,1,35,0,'65.82.173.206',1043210234,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 2155','The 2155 was produced in the early 70s and at that time was the most powerful 2WD that Oliver built. The tractor also could be gotten in a LP version. Yours is probably a 71 model. The est. HP is 156(wasn&#039;t tested at Nebraska) with a weight of 12,420 lbs. According to serial numbers there were few of these tractors built. (ser43300043-4333000253) This tractor was also produced as the MM G-1350.','',0,'','18c3gs5u',1,0,'',35,0,0),(400,100,1,51,0,'152.163.189.98',1043258021,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','2255','Tried to send a UTU message, would not send. The tractor had some over 3200 hours. Delbert','',0,'','hirzx0md',1,0,'',51,0,0),(401,105,1,112,0,'64.33.183.238',1043347141,1,0,1,1,1,0,'smalltownisolation','Oliver 950 and Super 77 appraisal','I have an oliver 950. I think its a 59?? I has 3000hrs on it with a recent underhaul and a crankshaft put in about 200hrs ago. New front wheel bearings this spring. Its been sheded all of its life and has hyd &amp;amp; pto\r\nNice tin and good color, but has poor rear tires. I also have a s77 G WF. Great runner with new alternator, battery,coil and new tires all around. Beautiful tin,No Hydraulics\r\n\r\nI was curious if someone could give me an estimate on what I could get for these tractors. I am thinking of selling the both and buying a bigger tractor for my farm. If anyone could help it would be really appreciated.\r\n\r\n Frank Lulich','',0,'','3v246jvn',1,0,'',112,0,0),(402,105,1,67,0,'64.6.2.124',1043367877,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I would guess the 950 to be worth $4000-$4500, and the Super 77 to be in the $2500-$3000 range, assuming both are in good condition.  The super 77 would bring more if it had hydraulics or 3 pt.  Hope this helps, but hard to guess accurately on price without seeing the tractors.  Terry.','',0,'','1xta5yrt',1,0,'',67,0,0),(403,106,1,116,0,'63.173.216.171',1043452079,1,0,1,0,1,0,'kline','stuff for sale','i have a set of tiptoe wheels 4 sale, need some work. 1 is missing a lug other one has crack in center hub. both need some spokes repaired. also have #100 plow 4 sale. <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:kline@usachoice.net\">kline@usachoice.net</a><!-- e -->\n\n[Edited on 1-24-2003 by kline]','',0,'','7bb2l3bb',1,0,'',116,0,0),(406,100,1,47,0,'65.238.36.197',1043520889,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Hey Greg,\r\nOf the 3150, and 3208 my choice would be the 3208. This engine got a bad reputation in the over the road trucking industry, mainly because of being underpowered for the application, the &#039;big&#039; version was only 325 HP. They are a great engine for dump trucks, local delivery trucks, power generators, pumps, and yes, AG equipment. I had 2 of these engines driving 250 Kw power plants, a little over 4500 hrs a year for 3 years without a minutes problem, then traded them for 3408&#039;s with 375 Kw plants, once they had no depreciation left. Whether this is a good engine or not I feel has alot to do with application. In a 2255 Oliver a 3208 should easily put 250 HP on the ground, with only slight modifications. As far as the 3150, I would say it is a good engine, just not as powerful as the 3208, which once again becomes an application issue.','',0,'','1j6xrdhb',1,0,'',47,0,0),(407,98,1,47,0,'65.238.36.197',1043521412,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','Somebody is always looking for parts!','',0,'','2qqp767u',1,0,'',47,0,0),(408,100,1,124,0,'12.150.142.151',1043531314,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','Thanks.  This information will be very helpful in making a decision.\r\nGreg','',0,'','1kz9286t',1,0,'',124,0,0),(409,107,2,5,0,'216.166.192.177',1043541408,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','#3','Looking for a status update on the Old #3 project. Have the details been worked out? Will it be at the Summer Show and will it be restored by then? What will the cost be to the HPOCA? Who will be doing the restoration? Inquiring minds want to know! oleblu','',0,'','2on667fj',1,0,'',5,0,0),(411,108,1,121,0,'66.222.85.176',1043557655,1,0,1,0,1,0,'SwenNilsson','Oliver Parts','Is there a good website to buy and sell Oliver parts?  I am looking for an exhaust manifold for an Oliver 80 and also one for an Oliver 70.','',0,'','2ndjpriy',1,0,'',121,0,0),(413,85,1,124,0,'12.150.142.236',1043592503,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','My small collection:\r\n\r\nSuper 88 Diesel NF\r\n88 Row Crop Diesel WF\r\nMT John Deere\r\nWD 45 Diesel NF\r\n2255\r\nHoping to get my grandfathers 70 Row crop bought new in 46.  Dad drove it home from the dealership when he was about 12 years old.  My cousin has it sitting in a shed.  I could give it some serious TLC.\n\n[Edited on 5-2-2003 by Oliver88]','',0,'','7gxx1hib',1,0,'',124,0,0),(414,93,1,131,0,'216.183.131.250',1043596972,1,0,1,1,1,0,'olliehartparr','','I also have a 70 HP standard that was purchased new in the fall of &#039;37 by my great uncle. My Dad bought it off him in&#039;47 and was his main tractor for a lot of years. We went over it completly from &#039;97 to &#039;99 and now it enjoys a life of leisure. I&#039;d be more than happy to share any info or help to you if needed.','',0,'','2h7lktze',1,0,'',131,0,0),(415,85,1,47,0,'67.241.135.113',1043599297,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Some of my stuff','I tend to collect transitional tractors, or tractors that were built while the company was going thru a transition. But, at times, something else will wander into the melon patch.\r\nOf the Cletrac line\r\n1-1944 HG-68\r\n1-late 1945 HG-68 (green)\r\nNote: I have been looking for an early 1945(orange) and a 1946 to complete this set, but I have plenty of tractors to work on, so this is on the back burner for now!\r\nCommon Cletracs;\r\n1-1948 BGSH\r\n1-1951 DDH\r\nOf the Oliver Hart Parr line;\r\n1-1930 2-3 plow tractor\r\n1-1930 Rowcrop\r\n2-1930 3-5 plow tractor\r\nOf the Oliver line;\r\n1-1948 70RC\r\n2-Model 5 pickers, 1 is for parts\r\nseveral plowmaster 100&#039;s\r\n1- Oliver (Fordson) plow\r\nseveral walking plows\r\nOliver Nichols and Sheppard\r\n1- 28&amp;quot; thresher (one of the last ones built)\r\nIn addition I have quite a but of memorbilia, and literature which Bob Tallman or Sherry shamed me into buying at auctions when I had none. You know &#039;You don&#039;t have that, do you?&#039; and a few toys.\r\nI think I am leaving some stuff out, I really should take a week or so and get all my stuff in the same place.\r\nAnd to think this started with one little HG-68, and a few words of encouragement from Bob Tallman!','',0,'','3d4bas79',1,0,'',47,0,0),(416,109,1,132,0,'24.141.166.188',1043599843,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave g','Oliver Super 55 Paint','What is the correct paint scheme for a Super 55?  I know the main tractor should be Green, but what should the wheels be?  I&#039;ve seen green, red or white.  I assume the front grille should be yellow, but have seen it white as well.  Any info is greatly appreciated.','',0,'','2dup4f6u',1,0,'',132,0,0),(417,108,1,47,0,'67.241.135.113',1043600077,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','You might try Rick&#039;s Agriparts, he has an ad in the last magazine. An 80 manifold, super tough to find a good one. You might get in touch with Jim Kline, he knows a machine shop that makes repro&#039;s, but the fellow who owns the shop knows the market, so, they are pricey!','',0,'','7afyln9z',1,0,'',47,0,0),(418,110,1,132,0,'24.141.166.188',1043600237,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave g','Oliver Green','Did Oliver change the colour of their paint from the 1950&#039;s tractors to the later 1960&#039;s models?  I have an 1800 checkerboard, and the paint is really close to JD Green (yes, I&#039;m one of THEM), but some old 66 parts appear to be much darker.  Looking at pictures on the oliver gang website, the later ones appear to be a lighter shade.  I bought some off brand JD green paint, (Serif, from TSC) and it was too dark for Deere Equipment, but yet it matches the Oliver 1800 perfectly.  Any info is greatly appreciated.\n\n[Edited on 1-26-2003 by dave g]','',0,'','hu45zho2',1,0,'',132,0,0),(419,109,1,96,0,'216.201.29.33',1043600642,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Super 55 plug','1954, 1955 &amp;amp; 1956 tractors came from the factory with green wheels. In 1957 there were many little changes made in all the Super models. That is when the red whells were reintroduced.','',0,'','12wouoye',1,0,'',96,0,0),(420,109,1,132,0,'24.141.166.188',1043600947,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave g','','That&#039;s what I thought.  Mine is a &#039;56, so I guess the wheels are correct green.  I was kind of liking the red wheel look though.  Painting is a little ways off though.  What changes were made for the &#039;57&#039;s?  Thanks for the info.','',0,'','18kb7x9s',1,0,'',132,0,0),(422,108,1,116,0,'63.173.219.22',1043601771,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','manifolds','rosewood machine &amp;amp; tool in rosewood, ohio has repro manifolds. ph#937-362-3871 email: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rosewoodmachine@woh.rr.com\">rosewoodmachine@woh.rr.com</a><!-- e -->  I bought one for my 99, you can order complete manifold or just the pieces you need. they aren&#039;t cheap. mine fit just fine seems to be good quality.','',0,'','2zfob17j',1,0,'',116,0,0),(424,110,1,47,0,'67.241.135.113',1043602824,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Dave','Well at least you recognize the superiority of the &#039;Finest in Farm Machinery&#039;! Oliver did go thru several changes in the shade of green, 3 different ones come to mind. Go to links on this site, click on Oliverinformation, you will find a paint listing in Sherry&#039;s site. I also have had problems with off the shelf paint, I bought 2 gallons of Oliver Green one time at farm and fleet, one was correct, the other matched a friends sea sick green tractor, so I gave it to him, or somebody working there.','',0,'','1lv369i5',1,0,'',47,0,0),(425,85,1,132,0,'24.141.166.188',1043603316,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dave g','I&#039;m coming around...','Got an 1800 checkerboard standard and hopefully a Super 55 on the way.  Got a bunch of other green machines, but with yellow wheels.....','',0,'','16c8vi7e',1,0,'',132,0,0),(427,107,2,47,0,'67.241.135.113',1043604741,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey oleblu,','It is good to hear from you! I also would like to have some answers to these questions. I have a strange feeling this will be a pricey venture. I know Doug Strawser has been working on this project for several years. In the beginning it was a definate no-go, then a maybe, now a possibility. You might call Terry, it should be a local call for you. Maybe you can get us some solid answers. Inquiring minds DO want to know!!! Check your U2U messages.\n\n[Edited on 26-1-2003 by Andy]','',0,'','zbsr7okh',1,0,'',47,0,0),(428,109,1,47,0,'67.241.135.113',1043607243,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Re:','If you like red, paint them red. The really great thing about this association is we don&#039;t judge. We don&#039;t crawl under tractors to be sure all the bolt heads are correct, etc. We do have some collectors who pick their tractors to death, but I have never heard a member criticize another member for not being totally accurate, though some may tease! Nothing serious like the car people do! Back when Bob Tallman talked me into joining this association one of the first things I heard was a saying we have, &#039;It&#039;s your tractor, do with it as you wish&#039;, so if red wheels turn you on, make them red!!!','',0,'','3l6b7z7x',1,0,'',47,0,0),(429,47,1,70,0,'209.150.251.15',1043608520,1,0,1,1,1,0,'paulivercollector','Hayrake teeth','Thanks for the information.  I&#039;ll try to see if I can get some teeth from my local AGCO dealer.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1w6ayb6w',1,0,'',70,0,0),(430,111,1,129,0,'12.4.207.45',1043611401,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Jim Clark','Oliver tractor &amp; equipment parts','My father started an Oliver dealership in 1946. We were cancelled in 1994 by AGCO. Lots of parts left over that we could not return. Parts from fleetline series up to early White series. Also parts for older and newer plows, planters, disc harrow, combines. Please call 717-734-3682 or email <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:clarkson@acsworld.com\">clarkson@acsworld.com</a><!-- e -->.','',0,'','ld887op6',1,0,'',129,0,0),(431,108,1,121,0,'66.222.85.14',1043611408,1,0,1,0,1,0,'SwenNilsson','','I would like to contact Cookieoliverman, but for some reason the webpage is not recognizing my login.  Cookieoliverman, you can e-mail me about the manifold at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:genscan@tds.net\">genscan@tds.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','3f847nos',1,0,'',121,0,0),(432,46,1,124,0,'12.150.142.15',1043627475,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','The 2003 show is in Penfield IL. Not Ohio.\r\nGreg','',0,'','1heguj4v',1,0,'',124,0,0),(433,107,2,67,0,'64.6.2.145',1043630713,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Sorry for the delay in being able to get information out to everybody, but when dealing with government agencies, it often takes more time than we would like.  The last I have heard, we will be able to transport # 3 from the Smithsonian on this Wed, Jan. 29.  Plans are still to have restoration completed and running at the summer show in Penfield.  Costs are not definite at this point, pending first chance for inspection after we get it out.  As to who will be doing the restoration, as I understand it, there have been 2 proposals made for 2 different groups to do the work, and we are waiting for a decision from the people at the Smithsonian as to who will be allowed to do the work.  Will probably be done in Illinois, either in Genesseo, or Greenville.  We don&#039;t expect costs to be extreme, as several different parties have pledges donations of materials, labor, transportation, and other expertise.  Good to see a project finally ready to kick off with so many people anxious to work together.  Terry.','',0,'','l8wy5r9p',1,0,'',67,0,0),(435,112,1,23,0,'12.28.99.192',1043653565,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','Restoring Oliver 60','I&#039;m restoring my &#039;47 Oliver 60 Row Crop.  I&#039;m wondering if anyone can steer me in the right direction for getting the seat covered.  I have the original seat with the metal plate and the backrest.  I need to get the bottom covered with the foam and vinyl or whatever they use.  Has anyone done this before and knows where I can get the materials?  Does anyone make a kit for 60&#039;s?  I was also wondering if they cover a piece of wood and then screw that to the metal plate.  \r\n\r\nI&#039;m also looking for a belt pulley shaft for this tractor.  Mine has some teeth missing so I&#039;m gonna try and find a different one.  This is the shaft that is driven from the transmission and comes out of the side that drives the pulley.  The gear and the shaft is one piece.  The part number is H-678.  Any help is appreciated, Jeff.','',0,'','35td3hy7',1,0,'',23,0,0),(436,108,1,23,0,'12.28.99.192',1043653696,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jeff','','Kline, may I ask what they charged you for that 99 manifold?  Thanks, Jeff.','',0,'','1gwlyyin',1,0,'',23,0,0),(437,112,1,5,0,'216.166.192.177',1043673078,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','seat','Jeff, get a piece of plywood, about 4&amp;quot; of foam from some place that does seat recovering, and a piece of seat material (water resistant) and put it together yourself. Not a big job. When done, set the seat on the metal plate and run some screws up from the bottom. When I asked for a price locally I was told &amp;quot;not much&amp;quot;. 2 days pay later, I decided I&#039;d do the next one myself. oleblu:o','',0,'','2uxwaou6',1,0,'',5,0,0),(438,107,2,47,0,'67.241.135.223',1043677012,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Terry,\r\nIt is good to see the plan come together! I hope the costs are minimal, perhaps I can help with some of that. If we need machined parts let me know, or magnafluxing, or engine machine work. One of our members here owns an engine reman shop, I&#039;m sure I can talk him out of a Saturday or two, to help us out. We also have a fellow who has been very generous with his machine shop, and employees time. He remanufactures engines and other components for the railroads. If something is too large for Jim&#039;s shop, Carl can handle it! I strongly suggest we use Doug Strawser as chief consultant, as Doug is probably the most knowledgable person living when it comes to this tractor!','',0,'','4vivebul',1,0,'',47,0,0),(439,107,2,67,0,'64.6.2.144',1043713279,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','It was originally planned by the HPOCA to have Doug included as chief consultant, along with a group of what we believed to be the best qualified people available, many of whom are HPOCA members.  It appears that this project has been shifted to more of a project by the I&amp;amp;I club, rather than a joint venture as we had originally planned.  Seems to be a bit up in the air at this point, but looks like HPOCA may have little involvement or control over how this project is handled.  At this time the people involved, location of restoration, and handling of this project have all been changed to be different than those planned by the HPOCA. Some turmoil that needs to be resolved if HPOCA will be involved with supplying funds for the project.  Will let you know more as this develops.  Terry.','',0,'','1wavoz4z',1,0,'',67,0,0),(440,107,2,47,0,'67.241.135.220',1043721443,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Terry,\r\nThis time I wholeheartedly agree with you! If they want our money, we need some control. If it wasn&#039;t for all the good volunteers we have, we would have a hard time rubbing two nickles together! Money is a hard to find item in todays economy. We do need all the bang for the buck we can get! I would not favor just saying here guys, take our money, spend all you want. Then be put out in the cold.\r\nYour decision to control the extent of our funding is very wise in my opinion, which I know doesn&#039;t mean a whole lot, but at least it is mine. Hey, I send you a pat on the back for standing up for us members, and treat yourself to a cookie on this one!\r\nI saw the list of those who are supposed to work on this tractor, the only possible change I would make is to add Gary Spitznogle as he is among the best engine men on those old prime movers. But, Gary does not get in any hurry, is rarely available, maybe that is why he has such a good reputation on them.\r\nThanks for keeping us up to speed on this.\r\nLater,Andy','',0,'','2vfgdiyy',1,0,'',47,0,0),(441,107,2,7,0,'205.188.209.71',1043724512,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','I&amp;I&#039;s involvement','I will speak for what I know at this point after speaking to  Terry tonight on the phone. I do know that I&amp;amp;I is not interested in by passing anything that the HPOCA wants to accomplish with #3. That being said, I&amp;amp;I&#039;s involvement has been basically to get the paperwork through the Smithsonian to get the tractor out of storage. This has been quite an involved process that was accomplished at the last minute when it became aparent that HPOCA&#039;s proposal would not be accepted. My understanding was that because HPOCA did not own a permanent site where the tractor would be displayed, stored and cared for the proposal was not accepted. I&amp;amp;I has the site and some experience with the Smithsonian and getting a tractor out of storage. My understanding is that the tractor will be going to Greenville, IL to be worked on by HPOCA members, not I&amp;amp;I. I&amp;amp;I&#039;s involvement is acquisition, display and storage. HPOCA&#039;s is restoration.','',0,'','1szlms8n',1,0,'',7,0,0),(442,108,1,116,0,'63.173.221.179',1043732887,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','Jeff, I got intake &amp;amp; exhaust combo for $545','',0,'','3du3sdub',1,0,'',116,0,0),(445,107,2,67,0,'64.6.2.48',1043807714,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I apologize to John and any of the I&amp;amp;I club members that I may have unintentionally offended.  What I had been informed that was an I&amp;amp;I project seems to have been a project diverted from its original plan by 1 or 2 people.  For what reason, I don&#039;t know, but had a long talk with John, and he cleared up several points.  The problem still exists that we (HPOCA) have had our plans totally changed by others, without our knowledge, or consent to conditions that we do not feel to be favorable or in the best interests of either group.  We will not be involved with providing any funding to any project over which we have no control or input.  I do know several of the members of the I&amp;amp;I group, whom I am glad to be able to call friends. I do know that this is not the way that their group would normally conduct its business.   I feel badly that both groups have apparently been mislead, and for what purpose is still unknown.  Hope that it is still possible to resolve the issues.  We do plan to have a group meeting later in February, and  hope that a face to face discussion will resolve the problem to the satisfaction of both groups.','',0,'','rndae1lp',1,0,'',67,0,0),(447,107,2,26,0,'216.43.147.81',1043904432,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','','There seems to be a power struggle going on here and we&#039;re not looking at the right picture.  No one was out to mislead anyone.  The Smithsonian talked with several different parties concerning this project.  The ultimate decision on where this tractor would go, who would work on it, and who it would be loaned to was made by the Smithsonian.  Evidently some of the HPOCA board members are just learning about that decision and it&#039;s causing some hard feelings.  There were reasons for the Smithsonian&#039;s choosing the recipient the way they did and it has nothing to do with someone taking it away from someone else.  We need to look down the road 6 months and be proud that the oldest gas tractor in the world is going to be displayed amongest our machinery.  The Smithsonian didn&#039;t have to release that tractor at all.\r\nAs for the HPOCA not wanting to fund the project, I can list several ocassions where the HPOCA has donated money to a project similar to this and never had any control or input.  It was my understanding that there would be a special fundraiser for this project which would be conducted by the HPOCA, so the funds would not come directly out of the HPOCA&#039;s pocket.  Perhaps I am mistaken.  But as a member of this association, I whole-heartedly support the restoration of the most important tractor in the world -Hart-Parr No. 3.  - Sherry (a member of the HPOCA)','',0,'','yc58f9ml',1,0,'',26,0,0),(448,107,2,47,0,'65.238.36.104',1043942644,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','There my be a few who think there is some sort of power struggle, but, I don&#039;t see it, in the context of HPOCA involvement. We elected a President, his name is Terry Allen, he is in control, he is a good man and a good member. If we let this issue rest a while, and give Terry a little time and a little room to work, I&#039;m sure he can bring this issue to a satisfactory conclusion. We ALL need to support our President, and allow him to do what we elected him to do. He did win by over a 2/3 majority, so I believe the member stand behind him. I encourage all those who supported me in the last election to support Terry in his efforts. Let&#039;s turn this into something positive!!!','',0,'','38rssz7l',1,0,'',47,0,0),(449,115,1,130,0,'66.181.128.14',1044033500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bob Adamson','oliver fenders','would fenders from a 1655 fit a 1600','',0,'','1fs0bx5w',1,0,'',130,0,0),(450,115,1,122,0,'63.148.118.71',1044038539,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rockin-B','','Fenders for 1550 1555 1650 1655 are all the same. My guess is that the 1600 are also.','',0,'','3bm0hst2',1,0,'',122,0,0),(451,116,1,12,0,'209.240.212.249',1044158247,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Oliver Forage Chopper','How many self-propelled Oliver choppers are there around? I believe it is a model 840. I was also told that it was similar to a Fox chopper. What does anyone know about them? WB.','',0,'','2ug0utrz',1,0,'',12,0,0),(455,118,2,67,0,'64.6.2.69',1044242564,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','Hart Parr # 3 update','Glad to be able to offer some updates as to status of HPOCA in preservation effort of HPOCA and I&amp;amp;I club.  Had a meeting of several of the people involved on Saturday, and a chance to view the machine.  Glad to report that things now seem to be under control, with HPOCA glad to be able to continue previous plans to extend funding for the project.  Agreements have been reached as to each groups involvement, and with each group appearing comfortable with the results.  #3 will be &amp;quot;preserved&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;restored&amp;quot;.  It is in unbelieveably good condition, and will not require extensive machine work or engine work as had been feared.  Seems to have seen little use since it was previously restored in the 30s.  Glad to see both groups able to work together.  I do appreciate all of your support.  Terry.','',0,'','xh6z1vfg',1,0,'',67,0,0),(456,118,2,47,0,'67.241.135.50',1044250701,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Terry,','That is wonderful!!! I knew if you had a little breathing room you would make it work out. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to resolve these issues. Now we have a positive situation, absolutely wonderful!!!!','',0,'','r4fwbssc',1,0,'',47,0,0),(457,118,2,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1044301000,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Working together','I had a feeling if we could get everything and everyone together we could get this worked out. As I said before I&amp;amp;I was interested in the project happening, but we also wanted it to happen under the auspices of HPOCA. This is your (HPOCA) project, we just facilitated getting the machine from the Smithsonian. BTW, I was recently elected VP of I&amp;amp;I. Please fell free to contact me for any of your concerns on the 2003 Summer Show. John:D','',0,'','1gvywhdl',1,0,'',7,0,0),(458,119,1,143,0,'67.2.248.234',1044495398,1,0,1,1,1,0,'johnnye','Marvel Schebler 755 carb','Does anyone know where I can get the jets for this carb?  Obrien Co. Imp sold me a complete kit, but it does not contain the jets, or are they available through AGCO.  Any ideas?','',0,'','3i4cz2xl',1,0,'',143,0,0),(459,118,2,142,0,'216.166.193.62',1044496219,1,0,1,1,1,0,'98dba','','Glad to hear everything is on track to getting Old #3 restored.  I have heard the plans as to what is going to happen with this tractor through the summer show in Penfield; what are the plans after this?','',0,'','9oxu7nrh',1,0,'',142,0,0),(460,118,2,7,0,'64.12.102.42',1044503047,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','The future of #3','#3 is on a 3 year loan from the Smithsonian to the I&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor &amp;amp; Gas Engine Club. At this point there are no plans beyond the summer show. One idea that has been hoisted is displaying the tractor at the Farm Progress Show which is very near the Penfield show grounds. Understand that there are requirements by the Smithsonian pertaining to transportation, displaying, security and housing the tractor. If a display is going to be made other than at Penfield for the next 3 years a proposal has to be submitted to the Smithsonian for approval. There is a LOT of red tape, but it can be done. Let me know your pleasure and we can talk about it. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','19jpi9q2',1,0,'',7,0,0),(461,118,2,105,0,'66.156.144.180',1044548199,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','Preserved not Restored?','Preserved not Restored?\r\nIs this really the case?  I really hope that it is.  I am probably a minority in this, but my dad and I almost never restore a tractor.  I think it takes away all of the integrity, and any story it every had to tell.  People look at me like I am an idiot when I say that, but that is me.  If a tractor has already been repainted poorly or is in just bad shape, restore away, but a good original?  I say leave it alone.  If #3 is in that kind of shape, I say preserve!\r\nBut I guess the Smithsonian wouldn&#039;t have let you guys have it if they wanted to leave it alone huh? Oh well.','',0,'','6llsny2y',1,0,'',105,0,0),(462,120,1,105,0,'66.156.144.180',1044548460,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','1950 T Toy','Anybody got an extra 1950 T Show toy they want to let go?  I tried Ebay but if you have been there you know that you will pay extraordinarily large sums.  I guess I should have ordered one in the beginning...','',0,'','3cmgc0lp',1,0,'',105,0,0),(463,85,1,144,0,'169.207.65.249',1044572452,1,0,1,1,1,0,'','','I have been collesting for 14 years and this is my collection so far.\r\n\r\n\r\n1930 Oliver Hart Parr 18-28\r\n1948 Oliver HG-42\r\n1950 Oliver 77 Standard\r\n1961 Oliver 770 wheatland\r\n1964 Oliver 1850 \r\n1972 Oliver  145                                       \r\nOliver 100 plowmaster 2btm plow\r\nOliver horsedrawn cultipacker\r\nOliver 9-C 2 row corn planter  (horsedrawn)\r\nOliver 9-D 2 row corn planter  (horsedrawn)\r\nOliver 1 row walking corn planter    (horsedrawn)\r\nOliver R-43 walking plow\r\n\r\nlots of Oliver toys, literature, and 10 pedal tractors and several  dealer signs\r\nalways on the look for more!!!\r\n\r\n[Edited on 2-8-2004 by ol950]','',0,'','qyp8yc2f',1,1091654582,'',144,2,0),(464,118,2,26,0,'216.43.145.188',1044573942,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','','No. 3 will be preserved, but there are a few things that need changed back to original.  The paint and lettering is one of them.  It does not have the original paint on it.  Originally the tractor was painted with lamp black and varnish.  We will be using paint, but it will have a dull finish like the original.  The integrity of the tractor will be maintained.  That is the most important thing according to the Smithsonian.','',0,'','rfp3sh8c',1,0,'',26,0,0),(465,120,1,35,0,'67.32.85.143',1044588579,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','1950T','You could try Bossen Implement Company, toy equipment dealer. Their web is <!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.bossenimp.com\">www.bossenimp.com</a><!-- w -->. I have bought some out of production Oliver toys from them and they are reasonable. Jensales would probably have it but I have found that they are higher than ebay. Their web is <!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.jensales.com\">www.jensales.com</a><!-- w -->. If this doesn&#039;t work let me know and I will try to find you one at a reasonable price.','',0,'','5b5qej12',1,0,'',35,0,0),(466,121,1,121,0,'66.222.85.64',1044730332,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SwenNilsson','Oliver 70 tendencies','Were Oliver 70s known for being prone to crack heads?  Also, can anyone with a 70 parts manual tell me what the part number was for a 70 head?','',0,'','3fqmgvzw',1,0,'',121,0,0),(467,122,1,144,0,'169.207.138.249',1044731359,1,0,1,1,1,0,'ol950','oliver 950','I just recently picked up a 1960 950 diesel, does anyone know how many were produced? don&#039;t really see to many around!','',0,'','289gasd7',1,0,'',144,0,0),(468,123,1,145,0,'65.171.23.7',1044738835,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Scott KY','Oliver plow color','I intend to paint an oliver 100 plowmaster I purchased. What is the proper colors for this plow?','',0,'','f578j0r8',1,0,'',145,0,0),(469,124,1,146,0,'63.90.171.115',1044741938,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Matt Hayes','Paint color','I own a Cockshutt 1350 and I am restoring it.  I was wondering if anyone knew what color of white the rims should be, and the paint code number if possible.  I have posted this question on a couple of other sites with no luck. Someone suggested trying here.  Thanks for your help.','',0,'','1mely9mi',1,0,'',146,0,0),(470,123,1,35,0,'65.82.172.126',1044744649,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','oliver plowmaster','That is a good question but may not be simple and there may be different opinions. Here is my two cents worth. I remember my folks selling the plowmaster(mostly two 12inch or14inch, not many 3 bottoms) and the 1949-57 were red with green wheels and yellow decals after 57 the plows were green with white wheels and white decals.','',0,'','3c3qiwik',1,0,'',35,0,0),(471,122,1,35,0,'65.82.172.126',1044744969,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','950','This may be a little help. According to one source the 950,990,and 995 were placed in the same serial range. Beginning in 1958 ser:53001 and ending in 1961 with ser:110064. Serial on left side of dust cover. I stand to be corrected.','',0,'','3gisctpy',1,0,'',35,0,0),(472,10,3,40,0,'205.188.209.37',1044748536,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Musuem in South Bend IN','Will there be any more info on the musuem in the next issue of the magazine?:D','',0,'','2ahp7lqa',1,0,'',40,0,0),(473,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.44',1044765126,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','I can&#039;t speak for the magazine, but here&#039;s what I know as of today.\r\nDemolition contiues at a rapid pace at the site, with not much more than Forge #2, Base Fit and the boiler house left untouched. I was in South Bend a couple of weeks ago and here&#039;s a picture of what things looked like.\r\n\r\nWord is that the boiler house has an interested buyer with that deal just about complete. From what I have been told, the building will be used as office space with the original structure being used. I would guess that they will divide it in to 3 or so floors on the inside, but it is just a guess at this time.\r\n\r\nForge #2 and Base Fit are still standing and waiting for us. We are currently working on the next step. Ron Radecki, who was mentioned in the article in the Nov/Dec issue, is working up a quote for his services to create a budget for the project. This will be presented to the board at the meeting in Wentzville. \r\nSince the City of South Bend is nearing the end of the clean up, they understandably want to see progress on the Forge #2 building. Time seems to be our number one enemy at this point of the project.\r\n\r\nOn the plus side, I have had several people approach me about their local foundations and charities that we can approach for donations/contributions/grants. Every one that we can get will help. Plus it goes to show the money is out there if you look for it.','',0,'','1vlswqk6',1,0,'',17,0,0),(474,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.44',1044765350,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Here&#039;s another picture. It&#039;s what was left of the wharehouse when I was there. It&#039;s probably gone now.','',0,'','t7skwrsb',1,0,'',17,0,0),(475,121,1,47,0,'65.238.36.43',1044805718,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','To the best of my knowledge they were not prone to head problems. 70&#039;s were probably as close to being bulletproof as any tractor Oliver built, I still see them in daily service today. Most head cracking problems are not a problem with the engine, but an operator malfunction, regardless of manufacture. Overheating is the main culprit. Watch your temperature and coolant level. When replacing a head or head gasket, at bare minimum have the head &#039;decked&#039;, take it to an automotive machine shop, they have gages to &#039;deck&#039; it, or check for warpage. If warpage is found it is a simple matter for them to put it on a broach and mill it straight. Make sure all surfaces are clean enough to eat off of. You will find that heat and dirt are the biggest enemies of any engine. They were made to work, but also they require periodic maintence. As to the part # maybe someone else can help out there. If you are looking for a head you might ask Paul W. Rode, Jr., he has several heads, engines, etc. maybe he can sell or trade something that will get you going. He also has several 70&#039;s in his &#039;boneyard&#039; that I think still have a head.','',0,'','2zth0j9j',1,0,'',47,0,0),(476,125,1,148,0,'63.91.16.97',1044810405,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mike Becker','Oliver 70 steel front wheels','Anyone know the value of a pair of Oliver 70 steel front wheels?  Casting number B729.\r\nThey are in good to excelent condition.','',0,'','2vjnkyxh',1,0,'',148,0,0),(477,120,1,149,0,'209.51.206.234',1044821480,1,0,1,1,1,0,'crawler','toy','Try the Toy Farmer I just bought one for about $65.00 with shipping .','',0,'','19ripz3k',1,0,'',149,0,0),(478,126,1,149,0,'209.51.206.234',1044822715,1,0,1,1,1,0,'crawler','77 with super 77 frame','I have a Oliver 77 serial #4501 471 , spec # 77-0850 . Should be a 1954 but it has a super 77 frame. I have a couple casting numbers on the frame  MA586D, 1M500M and on the engine is 185220 then below that is MI. The serial plate is under the dash.Whats up why don&#039;t my numbers match? Thanks Mike:o','',0,'','3e7z4oj2',1,0,'',149,0,0),(479,127,1,98,0,'209.51.206.234',1044823377,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','550 ser. #','I have a Oliver 550 serial number 162760-019 . What does the -019 mean ? Thanks','',0,'','1q220v92',1,0,'',98,0,0),(480,10,3,14,0,'68.97.173.111',1044829923,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','','Thanks, Chris for the update on the site.  If there is anything members can do to help move the process along, please let us know.','',0,'','raqyib2c',1,0,'',14,0,0),(481,65,3,14,0,'68.97.173.111',1044831233,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','','It&#039;s fine if the membership does not believe this as a viable project at this time, particularly with the museum concerns.  But I would suggest that a person restoring an Oliver tractor or implement should not have to pay a membership fee if they just want information on how to restore correctly. Preserving, promoting, and sharing the history, member or not, is what the club is about. In my humble opinion, this type of information should be shared.','',0,'','1o2gnbb2',1,0,'',14,0,0),(482,127,1,35,0,'65.82.172.126',1044837103,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','550','I am wondering the same thing. I have a 1964 550 ser:149805-019. Yours wouldn&#039;t happen to be a 550 Special would it?','',0,'','1ujhjx3r',1,0,'',35,0,0),(483,10,3,142,0,'216.166.193.15',1044852597,1,0,1,1,1,0,'98dba','Museum site?','From what I understand it is possible that the Oliver museum could be at a different site in South Bend than where the Oliver plant is located.  I have heard a rumor that a someone involved with funding this venture was against the museum going in the old plant buildings because of amount of work that would be needed on these buildings, and that there was a possibility of going in with the Studebaker museum to make things  cost efficient and keep these two tourist attractions in a close vicinity.  Does anyone else have any insight on this?\n\n[Edited on 2-10-2003 by 98dba]','',0,'','1ik1x2z8',1,0,'',142,0,0),(484,126,1,47,0,'67.241.135.105',1044888805,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Mike,\r\nYour serial # indicates early 1954. If your frame has the mounting pads, then that frame is from a super. It is possible that someone repaired your tractor at some time using whatever parts were available. You should get in touch with Ollie Schaefer, he is better versed on Fleetlines than I am. Ollie could tell you if that is a 77 with super parts, or a super with 77 parts.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3nc2oqo1',1,0,'',47,0,0),(485,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.105',1044890528,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey 98dba,\r\nIt is true that one of our potential backers wants to build near Copshaholm, but the keyword here is &#039;potential&#039;, they haven&#039;t shown us the color of their money yet. As of the last discussion on the matter we are looking into both options, then as I understand the matter, we will pursue whichever option best benefits the members of HPOCA. Our Officers, and Directors are commited to bringing this to pass at the very minimal cost discussed when the issue was on the ballot, if possible. President Terry Allen, and Chris Losey have been on top of this issue, and as I understand it are constantly soliciting benevolent organizations, and individuals to help make this happen. As you know the issue on the ballot was to give approval to look into this matter. HPOCA is doing just that! Of course these things take time, which is the main thing we can use more of! There will be more to report on the progress made after the board meeting at the Winter Get Together in Wentzville, Mo.\r\nSee y&#039;all at the Winter Get Together,\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','x3n05zdu',1,0,'',47,0,0),(486,65,3,47,0,'67.241.135.105',1044891860,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','We are talking about a major commitment in time and money here. If an individual wants to do this in the public&#039;s interest then fine and good. But, in my opinion, the HPOCA has a mission to service the members, not necessarily the public. If we were going to service the public then we would put our magazine on ever street corner, with a free sign. That will not happen anytime soon. Too often folks will get the idea that information is free, it is not! Somebody has to pay, or donate their time to research! This is one of the things your dues pay for. If we pay dues, why should someone use our resources for free and not join this great organization?\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','1bc0he09',1,0,'',47,0,0),(487,127,1,98,0,'209.51.206.63',1044898878,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','550','What makes it a 550 special or just a 550? Mine is diesel ,adj front end,addon power steering ,with 3 point hitch.Mike','',0,'','1jdnaj7n',1,0,'',98,0,0),(488,128,1,99,0,'12.74.9.45',1044913044,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Gary Swindell','Oliver 60 paint source','Anyone know of a source for premixed Oilver paint (1940&#039;s), preferably by the quart?','',0,'','kc19jod2',1,0,'',99,0,0),(489,127,1,129,0,'12.4.207.124',1044920052,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Jim Clark','','The last three numbers or characters in a Oliver serial number are the transmission number in the tractor. It is actually the ratio of the transmission. Depending on tire size and auxillary transmissions, some tractor had different ratio transmissions in and the numbers desinigated which ratio was in tractor.','',0,'','30ys2b0j',1,0,'',129,0,0),(490,129,3,126,0,'216.95.136.160',1044923418,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Farmerich','Equipment','I have asked this before. Peanut and cotton planters. I have been told a corn planter is used to plant peanuts. Is this true? Is there any such items out there I could acquire for restoration?\r\n\r\n         Thanks','',0,'','2nh7ad69',1,0,'',126,0,0),(491,128,1,47,0,'67.241.135.154',1044927408,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Go to <!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.oliverinformation.com\">www.oliverinformation.com</a><!-- w -->, get the paint code then go to any NAPA store that mixes paint, or any other automotive store that mixes paint, they can cross it over. Other than that there are numerous AG stores that sell OLIVER Green in gallons, but the shade is not always dependable, you might get sea sick green instead.\r\nLater, Andy\n\n[Edited on 11-2-2003 by Andy]','',0,'','2l6t1uev',1,0,'',47,0,0),(492,128,1,35,0,'67.34.173.42',1044931638,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','paint','If you are looking for a cheaper paint I have found that Tractor Supply(TSC) sells an Oliver green that comes close to the old Oliver green. It is approx. $20.00 per gallon and it is also sold in quarts, pints and aerosol cans. I use hardener and it has held up real well. I only paint machinery with this type paint.','',0,'','ehcr224a',1,0,'',35,0,0),(493,65,3,56,0,'216.138.55.85',1044957254,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','helping to identify','if you read #3 on the home page, that  says to me that if someone is looking for help, here is the place to get it. i am a member both nationaly and locally (can&#039;t spell though sometimes) and i am proud to tell people that. i don&#039;t know if i would agree 100% though that we as an association can charge people to look at our website. i do agree though that as an association we ought to be able to find enough information to help the collector in any way we can. it is hard for me living in the middle of a red power county to find some of the information that i need to restore my stuff.  i agree with the idea that the information is out there, but it will take time to collect it all to one central place. it could be at a web site, or maybe just cataloged and on file somewhere.  but the big thing is that we as an association pull together instead of breaking off into little social groups. i don&#039;t like it when some people say &amp;quot; did you hear what so and so wants to do? who has the time for that? i&#039;m not wasting my time for that?&amp;quot; i am going to take the first step here at home and put together what little info i have and then start asking for the info that i don&#039;t have. it seems to me that the big people of the association either don&#039;t need or don&#039;t want to bother with trying to help. maybe it will take a few years, but wouldn&#039;t it be nice to ask &amp;quot;i found an oliver baler with a serial tag still on it, what year was it made&amp;quot; and be able to answer correctly instead of guessing. that&#039;s all for now from me here at &amp;quot;Oliver Oasis&amp;quot;','',0,'','2269z6j3',1,0,'',56,0,0),(494,129,3,56,0,'216.138.55.85',1044957550,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','cotton and peanut planters','i haven&#039;t looked for peanuts yet but i know for a fact that my 540 planter will, with the right plates plant cotton.','',0,'','2zdeysb1',1,0,'',56,0,0),(495,130,1,151,0,'139.78.254.154',1044979737,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve Doede','Horsepower','What would be the horsepower rating of a 1948 Oliver 70 Industrial?','',0,'','a8kq2ggx',1,0,'',151,0,0),(496,131,1,152,0,'67.37.147.218',1044982476,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bono','Anyone know what year this Super 88 Diesel is?','Hello all!\r\n\r\nI&#039;m new to the site and recently got hooked on \r\nOlivers. When I was a kid, my granpa had a Super 88\r\nDiesel. It was my favorite tractor on his farm. We\r\ncalled it the &amp;quot;Silver Handle Tractor.&amp;quot; Unfortunately,\r\nIt caught on fire and is long gone.\r\n\r\nSomeday, I would like to find one and restore it.\r\nI attached a photo of it and was wondering if anyone \r\ncan tell from the photo what year it was.\r\nThanks in advance for your help. Looking forward\r\nto attending this year&#039;s HPOCA show.\n\n[Edited on 2-11-2003 by Bono]','',0,'','2gwubwel',1,0,'',152,0,0),(499,131,1,152,0,'67.37.147.218',1044984448,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bono','Hopefully the photo attached.','If the photo is attached, great! If not, \r\ncan anyone tell me how to make it work?\r\n\r\nThanks again.','',0,'','3d9s36x5',1,0,'',152,0,0),(500,65,3,47,0,'65.238.36.195',1044988225,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Oliver Farmer,\r\nPerhaps HPOCA is not as big of a player as you think, we currently have about 6,000 members, of these only about 10% actively go to our events, which leaves 90% who join basically to get the magazine. Of the 10%, as to those who volunteer their time and services a good estimate would be about 1% of our total membership. These volunteers are top notch, you can&#039;t ask for any better, but with the work we do, I would not be comfortable asking them for more. If you wish to volunteer I can assure you that your time and service is more than welcome! As to article 3 of our mission, we are here to &#039;aid&#039; the collector, and we do this. That does not mean we have the resources to be able to build a data base capable of answering any question that anyone could ever have on anything Oliver associated companies ever produced. It does mean that our members do try to the best of their ability to answer questions asked of them concerning Oliver related equipment. I don&#039;t think you really know what it takes to build a data base covering all these products. I spent over 100 hours myself assembling info on just 1 tractor, built for a portion of 1 year. Now, figure that for many models over a period of 73 years, and you can see this is a daunting task. We are a small organization, we do the best we can with whatever resources we have. If you volunteer, and get into the internal workings of the organization, you will see what a fantastically wonderful job our members do. Than you will understand why I would not be comfortable asking for more. This is a non-profit organization, the bulk of the labor comes from our volunteers.\r\nAs in any family, there will be some disagreements. The most active of our members are like an extended family, and yes we do and will disagree from time to time on issues or methods, but we never take this personal. This is one of the normal ways that human beings resolve issues. I can agree that this has been made a little more public lately than it should be, but it is part of a natural process, that eventually works out issues.\r\nAs to the &#039;big people in the association&#039; it does not exist, we all pay dues, we are all equal. The so called &#039;big people&#039; are only those who have taken advantage of the opportunity available to serve in the association, they do it free of charge, on a volunteer basis, and this is readily available to any member, any member can be a &#039;big people&#039; just contribute your time and efforts.\r\nSee y&#039;all at the Winter Get Together in Wentzville, Mo.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3gxnzkjg',1,0,'',47,0,0),(501,130,1,12,0,'209.240.212.249',1044989132,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Nebraska Test Results','According to Nebraska Test # 351, &amp;quot;corrected&amp;quot; drawbar HP was 30.18 and belt was 33.38. This information came from &amp;quot;A guide to Hart-Parr, Oliver and White Farm Tractors 1901-1996&amp;quot; by Larry Gay. WB.','',0,'','2x55z6bb',1,0,'',12,0,0),(502,132,5,12,0,'209.240.212.6',1044990596,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Classified?','What would it take to put a classified section on the website? It would be nice to look at for-sale and want-ads that would mostly contain Oliver related subjects. Just curious, WB.','',0,'','8d384ruf',1,0,'',12,0,0),(503,133,1,151,0,'139.78.254.154',1044996021,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve Doede','Need Parts','Does anyone know where I can get 7&amp;quot; flat headlight lenses and a tool box cover for an Oliver 70 industrial?','',0,'','3hyqn0uq',1,0,'',151,0,0),(504,131,1,35,0,'65.82.172.33',1045009096,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','oliver 77','The tractor is a Super 77 and it looks as if the wheels are red therefore I would say it would be a 56-57 model. If you look on the panel under the instrument you should see the Oliver model and serial plate. Get the serial and somebody on this forum can tell you the exact year.','',0,'','1dwc86q2',1,0,'',35,0,0),(505,131,1,35,0,'65.82.172.33',1045009258,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','super 88','Sorry I goofed. I should have said Super 88 instead of 77.<!-- s:o --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif\" alt=\":o\" title=\"Surprised\" /><!-- s:o -->','',0,'','1tg51qa6',1,0,'',35,0,0),(506,132,5,10611,0,'216.93.69.169',1045020097,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','','That shouldn&#039;t be too hard to do. I&#039;ll look into finding a good program to do it.\r\nI think one capable of pictures would be good. Any other features that you think it should have?','',0,'','12j0bi2f',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(507,131,1,67,0,'64.6.2.153',1045020921,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','If the red wheels on the tractor were original, that would make it at least a 1957 model.  Would be a 57 or 58 for sure.','',0,'','1tri4iu8',1,0,'',67,0,0),(508,65,3,67,0,'64.6.2.153',1045021315,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I agree that we don&#039;t have any &amp;quot;big people&amp;quot; in the HPOCA, and that is what makes this such a good group.  I do believe that more information on the implements will surface as the interest in the implements increases.  You have to remember that there has previously been much more interest and factory records available on tractors, and this makes more tractor info available now.  It looks like interest in the implements is increasing quite a bit in the last couple of years.  The problem is not that no one wants to help with this, it is just that the information has not been available to any of us, at least not that I have seen.  I would like to see more info available to all of us.  Time will tell how much is out there, and can be made available.','',0,'','1j624wak',1,0,'',67,0,0),(509,65,3,47,0,'65.238.36.96',1045069271,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Terry,','Yes, I can agree with what you said. In addition I would like to mention that we have been very fortunate to have the Floyd County Museum. At a time when the Charles City plant was being torn down, those folks were scrambling to grab every shread of paper they could. As a result they have a wonderful library of data, which they share with many of our members. Unfortunately, Charles City was the tractor plant, so, most of the info there only concerns tractors. As we proceed with the project in South Bend, I believe more data will surface on tractors built there, and on tillage tools. There are several active organizations there who probably have some information they will be able to share. I don&#039;t feel we will be able to get the maximum benefit until such time as we have established a museum, with an endowment capable of supporting an administrator, curator, and staff. Still, there are still Oliver people in that town, ex-employees, who very much support us. Some of these folks may have important data. I have heard stories of truckloads of old files and records being hauled off and destroyed after Oliver factories were closed, those records would be priceless to us today. I don&#039;t feel that HPOCA will be getting strongly into going out and digging up these bones, rather, it is my opinion that at such time as collecting implements become strong enough to support it, the book writers will research this. They will go out, collect the data, then write books containing this data in hopes their books will sell. It would be unusual to have organizations as active as the Floyd County Museum at every plant, so, I suspect much of the data will be recovered from 2nd hand stores, flea markets, and ex-employees, which as you know is much more time consuming and expensive. I also have noticed an increase in the popularity of collecting implements. In addition I notice that the literature vendors are stocking more literature and manuals on implements.\r\nSay &#039;Hi!&#039; to Virginia for me, and hope she is feeling well! See y&#039;all in Wentzville!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3h8wcfvn',1,0,'',47,0,0),(510,131,1,152,0,'67.37.147.141',1045069814,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bono','','Thanks for the replies so far. Unfortunately,\r\nI can&#039;t get the serial number... tractor is\r\nlong gone after cathing on fire several \r\nyears ago. I don&#039;t know if the wheel were originally\r\nred or not. I believe the tractor was\r\nrepainted at least once.\r\n\r\nThanks again. Any further input is greatly\r\nappreciated.','',0,'','2mv2dl58',1,0,'',152,0,0),(511,133,1,47,0,'65.238.36.96',1045070595,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Steve,\r\nI don&#039;t know of any right off, but if I were looking for these parts, I would go to one of our events. It is common to see these parts for sale at our Summer Show, or Winter Get Together. I find many hard to find parts available at these events. The next event will be the Winter Get Together in Wentzville, Mo. March 28-29, 2003.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','2znsjy3p',1,0,'',47,0,0),(512,133,1,67,0,'64.6.2.85',1045090077,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I don&#039;t know of anyone reproducing the tool box cover, so that will have to come from a donor tractor, 70 std, or Ind. are the same.  As for the lens for the 7&amp;quot; flat lens lights, I think that Korves Oliver has some.  There are reproductions of these available.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','329h53gx',1,0,'',67,0,0),(513,134,1,153,0,'67.26.67.213',1045101675,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Ol Mack','Serial # Loc.','I have an  ol&#039; 99 that does&#039;t have a tag on the engine . Did Oliver put the ser #&#039;s somewhere else on their tractors too ?The casting #&#039;s on the hull are from 1951 . Thank You !','',0,'','27b30ima',1,0,'',153,0,0),(514,134,1,35,0,'65.82.172.33',1045109740,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','99','The serial number was at the right rear of engine. Some 99s had the serial number stamped on a plate located on right side of tractor on clutch cover which is underneath the fuel tank.','',0,'','3ew4w317',1,0,'',35,0,0),(515,135,1,154,0,'216.163.52.202',1045168327,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Don Baiers','77 Orchard','my 77 orchard sn 271995C77E was green when i bought it. after power washing it was red and on very good. where there any red ones, and what does the C77E stand for at the end of the serial number. starting to restore and need to know what color to paint it. thanks for any help!','',0,'','eym8i2fs',1,0,'',154,0,0),(516,135,1,67,0,'64.6.2.81',1045180628,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','All of the 77 orchard tractors I am aware of are green.  I do not know of any red ones, but custom colors were available from the factory for an additional charge, but this would seem to be rare.  I have seen many Olivers with a yellowish colored primer under the paint, and some with a reddish brown primer.  Maybe you are seeing the primer underneath the paint?  As to the C77E designation, my understanding is that a C after the serial number would designate a special transmission gear combination, with the 77 designating what gear combination.  Not sure about the E.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','1nvzi20p',1,0,'',67,0,0),(517,134,1,153,0,'67.26.64.246',1045182337,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Ol Mack','','Thank you for the replay , Frank , but I guess what I should have said is &amp;quot; Did they stamp the ser #&#039;s on the frame or in another location besides just on the plate ?&amp;quot; Thanks!','',0,'','34765i2k',1,0,'',153,0,0),(518,135,1,47,0,'67.241.135.40',1045198247,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I also have seen a number of green 77 Orchards, but I have never seen a red one. I agree with the red primer, several of the tractors I repair and maintain came with red primer. I strip every tractor that I will repaint down to bare metal, now that I think about it I can&#039;t recall any that didn&#039;t have red primer. I would think that the custom paint would be more popular in the industrial models, construction company colors, etc. But, you never can tell, some large fruit farmer might of wanted his own color. That is just one of the things that makes this hobby so interesting, once you think you have seen everything, done all the correct research, something different happens!!','',0,'','1jdyzt0g',1,0,'',47,0,0),(519,134,1,116,0,'63.173.221.38',1045265365,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','I have 1938 (99) 4cyl, only place I have found ser.# is on the motor. also have an old 70 with no motor so I would also like to know if there is another ser.# location. on my Co-op E3 it is stamped in frame, but havn&#039;t seen this in Olivers.','',0,'','37gerf7a',1,0,'',116,0,0),(520,134,1,35,0,'67.34.169.2',1045278986,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','serial number','I have an original operators manual for a 1952 Oliver 66. The manual indicates that the engine serial is stamped on the right side of engine block and it is assumed the year can be gotten from this number. I don&#039;t know if they did this with the 99.','',0,'','1qsrnfqq',1,0,'',35,0,0),(521,134,1,5,0,'216.166.192.31',1045279543,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Ser #','Frank, I have a 1951 88RC and have found the # you are refering to. The # on the block would indicate it is from a later standard tread tractor (53 or 54, can&#039;t remember which). This engine may have been switched in the last half century, I don&#039;t know. My question for the &amp;quot;people who were there&amp;quot;, Did they match engine numbers to the tractor serial number? Maybe B A Star has an answer.','',0,'','33fugu6r',1,0,'',5,0,0),(522,65,3,56,0,'216.138.55.76',1045306406,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oliver farmer','helping to identify','hey Andy, i don&#039;t mean to offend anyone here and am not to proud to say &amp;quot;i am sorry&amp;quot; if i did. you are right in that i didn&#039;t realize how small an amount  of the active people there are. i don&#039;t have a lot of money but i do have a little time. i would love to help, but may need some guidance to stay on the right track. lets get together at the winter show and trow some ideas around. hope to see you there.','',0,'','38h40wz6',1,0,'',56,0,0),(523,118,2,138,0,'209.248.30.10',1045324864,1,0,1,1,1,1,'RON','#3','Just wondering who knew the lates news on #3.','',0,'','1ujpcddp',1,0,'',138,0,0),(524,118,2,67,0,'64.6.2.96',1045358323,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','My understanding is that of last week, the motor has been partially disassembled for inspection.  One rod bearing was found to be cracked, and one wrist pin in need of repair.  Gary Spitznogle is working on repouring the bearing, and repairing the wrist pin.  After reassembly and possible valve grind, should be about time to make it run.  Plans are under way for construction of the canopy also.  Terry.','',0,'','2358ccl9',1,0,'',67,0,0),(525,118,2,138,0,'209.248.30.5',1045377491,1,0,1,1,1,1,'RON','','Thanks for the news,  good to here from you Terry.','',0,'','3dhasnvo',1,0,'',138,0,0),(526,65,3,47,0,'67.241.135.201',1045430605,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Oliver farmer,\r\nNo offense taken. I was just trying to make it understood that we do have our limitations, and serious consideration should be taken before committing to such a big project. I was also trying to give you some insight into how we work.\r\nWe can ALWAYS use good volunteers, last summer Terry could hardly get out of our booth at the Summer Show, for lack of help, to perform his functions as President. I believe you can be kept busy if you ask any HPOCA Officer, Director, or any Chapter President where you can help. If you don&#039;t know any just ask someone. I&#039;ll see Y&#039;all in Wentzville!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','2q0c6h8u',1,0,'',47,0,0),(527,134,1,153,0,'67.25.238.214',1045449041,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Ol Mack','','I have been around old iron off and on for the past 30 years and this old 99 is my first Oliver . I&#039;m getting to like this color of green alot better . It is mainly due to the other Oliver lovers out there , who, with their helpful ways and camaraderie have impressed me so much . Thanks to all !!','',0,'','37e2x9fn',1,0,'',153,0,0),(528,136,3,47,0,'67.241.135.184',1045492832,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','National Farm Machinery Show, Louisville, Ky.','Our participation in the Louisville tradeshow went wonderfully this year. We now have several new members, and many members decided that they enjoy our company, renewing their memberships. Clocks and books sold well, along with most other merchandise. I got some good suggestions made for new merchandise, gonna have to tell Landis about that. It was an enjoyable experience as always this year, we got to talk to many members. If you are ever at this show stop by, and if you have an extra hour or two, pitch in, we can always use an extra hand.\r\nSee Y&#039;all at the Winter Get Together, Wentzville, Mo. March 28-29, 2003\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','2xxdlkka',1,0,'',47,0,0),(530,137,1,124,0,'12.150.142.12',1045509763,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','2255 Purchase','I&#039;ve been talking with a gentleman for 5 weeks now that adverised a 2255 and a 2150 on Yesterdays tractors website.  He has not gotten me any pictures yet.  I don&#039;t think he wants to sell them.  They sound like nice tractors but I haven&#039;t seen them yet.  Is he telling the truth about them?  Or does he even have them?  I haven&#039;t seen any proof!!!  Hummm.  Sorry guys.  Just had to vent.  Does anyone know of a clean 2255 or 2150 for sale.  I&#039;d prefer the 2255 with cab and air. A friend of mine is interested in a 2150.  Thanks,\r\nGreg Davis','',0,'','2vatqtyi',1,0,'',124,0,0),(531,137,1,119,0,'208.189.21.132',1045515680,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Lee W','2150','I have a 2150 2wd for sale if your friend would be interested. It has three point and PTO.','',0,'','1gwtoixs',1,0,'',119,0,0),(532,137,1,124,0,'12.150.142.12',1045516501,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','What kind of price, what model, what condition and where are you located?\r\nThanks,\r\nGreg','',0,'','2u7u9t5j',1,0,'',124,0,0),(533,30,4,158,0,'161.184.23.29',1045544094,1,0,1,1,1,0,'KBUSBY','found 2 DDHS','Hi andy, I located 2 ddh dozers today, they are located in central alberta canada. The owner is asking $1800.00 for thr runner(I did not here it run) and $1200.00 for the parts unit. I will  be going back in the future I have a 88 standard and a 70 cockshutt to pick up, so I could get pictures if they are of any interest.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','1kx56k2g',1,0,'',158,0,0),(534,66,4,158,0,'161.184.23.29',1045544320,1,0,1,1,1,0,'KBUSBY','weldco','you could contact weldco in Edmonton alberta canada ,they may have the design on file.','',0,'','8k5pbz9j',1,0,'',158,0,0),(535,30,4,47,0,'65.238.36.226',1045579633,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey KBUSBY,\r\nAlberta is a little far for me to go, I live in West Virginia. If you want the runner the price is not too bad, I gave $2500US for my 1951 DDH and it needs tracks. As for the parts tractor, it would need to be fairly complete to come out on it. But, the travel expenses eliminate that for me. Thanks for remembering I am looking.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','14snzi2a',1,0,'',47,0,0),(536,138,1,159,0,'65.170.120.131',1045581331,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wiley','Oliver Hydra-Lectric #3','I have a 1949 Oliver Row Crop 88 that I recently installed a No. 3 Hydra-Lectric Hydraulic Unit on. After installing it, I attached a hydraulic cylinder to the left side ports and found that both ports were pressurized at all times, even with the controls in neutral. I then disconnected the cylinder and installed it on the right side ports. The cylinder worked on the rights side until I plugged the left side ports. I now have all the ports under pressure at all times. To try to correct this problem, I replaced the O-Ring seals in the interlock assembly. Unfortunately I did not have the square lip o-rings, so I used regular o-rings. I reinstalled the controls and tested the unit. It still pressurizes all the ports even with the control in neutral. Does anyone have any idea why this hydraulic unit will not control flow? Any information on correcting this problem will be greatly appreciated.\r\n\r\nThank You\r\nBill Wiley\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:chiefwiley391@yahoo.com\">chiefwiley391@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','3krz1e2o',1,0,'',159,0,0),(537,139,1,160,0,'64.186.198.130',1045606766,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SexyFarmerRob','Oliver 1800 Checkerboard','I just bought a gas Oliver 1800 w/ the checkerboard decals. I would like information on this particular model. I also need tips on restoring it. For more information on its conditions contact my via on the the purposes below. If anyone could help me it would be appreciated. Im only 14 and this is my first tractor. Im going to restore it for my FFA project. Thank you in advance... \r\n\r\nmy email is: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:sexy_farmer_rob@hotmail.com\">sexy_farmer_rob@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->\r\nAim: FireGodThePyro\r\nYahoo!: firegodthepyro\r\nMsn Email:sexy_farmer_rob@hotmail.com\r\n\r\n<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1areshyi',1,0,'',160,0,0),(538,85,1,161,0,'203.54.165.206',1045610118,1,0,1,1,1,0,'downunderoliver','','In reply to your message, having seen what you have in your collection I have four. \r\nI live in Victoria Australia and bought an Oliver 950 new in 1960. Since then have collected and restored:\r\n\r\nsuper 99 6 cylinder diesel\r\nstandard 88 6 cylinder diesel\r\n880 6 cylinder diesel (currently under restoration)\r\n\r\nFinding parts hard to come by.','',0,'','272zuda6',1,0,'',161,0,0),(539,10,3,40,0,'205.188.209.37',1045623762,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Musueum in South Bend','Sounds like things are moving forward on what can be accomplished.  Will the City of South Bend get in a &amp;quot;hurry&amp;quot; for moving forward on the HPOCA plan after they get other things started on the site?  From working for the government for 30 some years I know it will take some time for our club to get the funding, planning, etc. lined up and approved.  It is always surprising how positions, thoughts, money, etc. can change when people, organizations, and govts have to make final decisions.','',0,'','2cx6qfgg',1,0,'',40,0,0),(540,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.29',1045628557,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','When we met with the Mayor of South Bend last summer, they gave us a tenative deadline of having something going by June of 2003. According to their scheduling, the clean-up should be complete by that time and then they will start the push to sell the lots in the new light industrial park. They already have a buyer for the boiler house, and I am told that there is much interest in the reclaimed land.\r\nWhen they gave us this &#039;deadline&#039; of June 2003, they also realized that this is going to take time. What they wanted from us by that time is a definite commitment to create the museum in those buildings at the site. As long as they can tell potential buyers of the other lots that the building is going to be a museum in the future, they should be happy. But they do not want to tell potential buyers that their neighbor is an old building that is just going to sit there and be an eyesore that detracts from the new businesses there.\r\n\r\nThe city is starting to ask the question &amp;quot;how are things going?&amp;quot; The main thing they are looking for is a commitment, and we need to have a good answer for them soon. We have been working in that direction, but our main stumbling block at this time is we need a budget for costs of building the museum and also costs for running the museum. Anybody that gives us money is going to want to know where it is going. \r\nAnybody that is qualified to come up with a budget for a project like this is going to want to be compensated for their time, so we are planning on asking the HPOCA board for funds to get a good budget in place. We will be doing this in Wentzville. \r\n\r\nThere has been another proposal to locate a museum next door to the Northern Indiana Center for History. This is where Copshaholm, the Oliver Mansion, is. At this time, this option doesn&#039;t look too likely. The City would have to move about 2 city blocks worth of people out of their homes and demolish these houses to make room. Support from the City Council for this idea has been low, with I am told, one council member definitely against the idea. In my opinion, it will also be harder to raise money to build a new building, as opposed to saving an old one. We would have to pursue different avenues to fund this, and so far, they aren&#039;t panning out. But, time will tell.','',0,'','148dbzt5',1,0,'',17,0,0),(541,140,1,162,0,'207.54.187.2',1045663834,1,0,1,1,1,0,'apeckens','Best model for first time restoration.','I&#039;m looking to take on my very first restoration project this year and I&#039;m looking for recommendations on which model (440, 66, etc) would be ideal for someone with no experience. Which model would provide a good challenge, but not frustrate me to the point of wanting to give up? Thanks.','',0,'','hlchq9qb',1,0,'',162,0,0),(542,85,1,159,0,'65.170.120.146',1045670079,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wiley','My small collection here in NJ.','I have a collection of old iron such as Hit &amp;amp; Miss engines, Old Gen/Sets a Hough PayLoader and 1 Oliver. My Oliver which is a wonderful tractor is a 1949 RC 88 Gas Serial # 128259C88F. I have had this tractor for about 10 years. I would now like to find a Standard 88 Gas. After my years of working on a vast array of old iron, I truly believe that Oliver is “The Finest In Farm Machinery”.\r\nBill Wiley. (South Jersey)','',0,'','6m5b61ro',1,0,'',159,0,0),(543,141,1,160,0,'64.186.198.114',1045682214,1,0,1,1,1,1,'SexyFarmerRob','Whats your favorite?','Which Model Do You Like The Most??','',0,'','zeeceap2',1,0,'',160,0,0),(544,142,1,151,0,'139.78.254.154',1045683205,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve Doede','70 Steering Wheel','Can anyone tell me if the steering wheel for a 1948 Oliver 70 is keyed or splined and where can I get a new one?  Thanks','',0,'','3qogfv9u',1,0,'',151,0,0),(545,10,3,40,0,'205.188.209.37',1045686367,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Musuem in South Bend IN','Chris:\r\n\r\nThanks for the information.  I really would like to have an Oliver musuem someplace.  Having grown up in Iowa I think Charles City would be a great place, but everything Oliver is gone from there, so South Bend with its buildings used by the corporation is fine with me.  \r\n\r\nI would like to be at the winter meeting and meet you guys working on this project, but I won&#039;t be able to be there.  Will the board make a final decision as to whether or not the project will go forward at the winter meeting?\r\n  \r\nWhen you start talking about preparing a budget and hiring someone to do it (that is well qualifiied) it seems to me the club is committing itself to start spending some significant dollars.  I know June is fast approaching, but a rough order of magnitude budget won&#039;t do, especially when it comes to fixing up the buildings.  \r\n\r\nHas AGCO expressed any interest in helping to support the musuem.  I think a pitch could be made to them that displaying current ag equipment and information  along with the Oliver items and information could have a significant benefit to them. \r\n\r\nAfter all us old guys that grew up farming with Olivers and the people that are collectors will not be enough to keep a musuem going for the long term.  We are going to have to have something that will get people to pull off of the Indiana turnpike and spend a few hours.  I think it will be to our advantage that Notre Dame,  the Studebaker Musuem and the College Football Hall of Fame are in South Bend.  Although I think you could get people visting those places to visit an Oliver musuem, I don&#039;t believe there will be a lot of them do it on there own.  We would have to work hard at making the musuem a place that draws visitors.  I think AGCO could help with that.  \r\n\r\nI know you are probably thinking, &amp;quot;Man this guy is a pain where you sit,&amp;quot; but I really am interested in a musuem.  Being in Virgina it is a little difficult for me to physically contribute much, but I will help out to the best of my ability if you think there is anything I could do.<!-- s;) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s;) -->','',0,'','c31lioyw',1,0,'',40,0,0),(546,143,5,40,0,'205.188.208.7',1045686661,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Spell Checker','Does the site have the capability to spell check posts that you submit?  So far I have not found one.  with my typing ability it would be nice for everyone else if I could run a spell check on things I send in.\r\n\r\nThanks. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','w0it507s',1,0,'',40,0,0),(547,10,3,67,0,'64.6.2.84',1045698783,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Just a quick update on the status of the museum--I have spoken to the mayor of South Bend, and several others this week in continuing our efforts to develop a museum in South Bend.  The current stumbling block is to pick the site.  There are some concerns about the old plant buildings which could be resolved in locating near the Copshaholm museum.  We are currently waiting on a decision from the Studebaker museum people as to where they will locate their new museum.  While we all agree that it would be great to have 3 museums together (Studebaker, Copshaholm, and HPOCA), it is very questionable if there will be enough room available for all 3, and this also has the potential to meet with some disapproval from area residents.  It appears much more agreeable for 2 of the 3 to locate there, both to others in the area and to space restraints.  The Studebaker group had been rumored to have picked another site, but discussions with city officials this week confirm that this was only a rumor, and a final decision has not yet been made.  For our group, we might be better off if the Studebaker group did locate in a different spot, as their space needs are greater than ours at the present.  We would then be able to benefit from the tie in with the Oliver family, and work with the Northern IN Center for History at the Copshaholm site.  This has been expressed to the mayor, along with our position that we have definitely not given up on the old plant buildings, but we all need some time for things to work out as to who should locate where, and what the city&#039;s role will be in assisting with both projects.  I hope to make a trip to South Bend, around mid March, to meet with several of the people involved, and city officials to try and update all of us as to current happenings.  Seems like a long and complicated process, but do believe it will all be worth it when we can stand in the middle of our own museum.  Will update more as info is available.  Terry.','',0,'','34yz1d3a',1,0,'',67,0,0),(548,140,1,67,0,'64.6.2.84',1045699068,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Glad to see new people starting to restore Olivers.  What is right for you to work on, will depend on your taste and interests.  Just my 2 cents worth, but a 70, or 66-77-88 make good learning experiences, if only for the availability of parts.  These models, or one of your own choosing, of high production models make parts availability better.  Also the newer models tend to be easier to get parts for also.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','118yedh5',1,0,'',67,0,0),(549,142,1,67,0,'64.6.2.84',1045699250,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','70 steering wheels are keyed.  You can have yours recovered, or replaced.  I would recommend Korves Oliver, or Minn Kota.','',0,'','rmae3ox6',1,0,'',67,0,0),(550,140,1,35,0,'65.82.172.88',1045718575,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','best tractor','I agree with Terry concerning the models. I have restored  an OC4 crawler, a HG crawler,a 66 and a 550. The crawlers were very expensive however the 550 had low hours and was in excellent mechanical condition. The 66 was in fair condition but was relatively easy to repair and the parts are readily available at reasonable prices. The 440 would be a great tractor to restore but you will have to pay a premium to get one.','',0,'','1q91k2cq',1,0,'',35,0,0),(551,143,5,10611,0,'216.93.69.134',1045797268,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','','I&#039;m sorry to say, no, there isn&#039;t a spell checker available. There may be a spell check in future versions of the software that makes this board work, but for now it&#039;s not availble.','',0,'','1l733t3k',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(552,143,5,40,0,'152.163.189.71',1045798983,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Spell Checker','Thanks for the reply.  It would be a nice feature if you can get it added without a lot of hassle or expense. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->  \r\n\r\nFor now I can type up my posts on AOL or Microsoft Word, use their spell checkers and just copy it onto here.','',0,'','1pgm1px0',1,0,'',40,0,0),(553,140,1,105,0,'65.80.115.89',1045802759,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Besides parts and ease of restoration, another thing to think about is the size of the tractor.  We have lots of big tractors that are my favorites, but I wouldnt recommend someone have them with out the right equipment (meaning truck/trailer, shop, tools).  Also, with a smaller tractor, parts are lighter and easier to handle by yourself.  What I mean is that with a 70, you could take a good jack, some good stands, or boards, and take of a rear wheel and replace the tire by your self, no problem.  Try doing that with something like our 995 that has 1500lb. cast rear wheel centers AND fluid in the tires.  You need a shop with a hoist, and a semi to haul it to shows on.\r\nTherefore, in my long and drawn out fashion, I agree that you need a model like a 60 or 70, or 66 0r 77.  I think that I would recommend a 66 RowCrop Gas.\r\nSmall, simple, classic.','',0,'','21gwroji',1,0,'',105,0,0),(554,141,1,105,0,'65.80.115.89',1045840456,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','I almost put the 1950 just because of the GM, but I have spent WAY too much time on the seat of an 88 to vote other wise.','',0,'','tlcumchs',1,0,'',105,0,0),(555,140,1,40,0,'64.12.96.166',1045841027,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','I agree with the others that the smaller models are easier to work on, transport and store.  My brothers and I have a variety of models.  My favorite is our 1550 gas.  It was our Dad&#039;s and that has something to do with it, but it still is pretty easy to work on, transport and store.  It also has enough power that you can plow, pull a cornpicker or put a loader on it if your want to.  I would get a gas instead of a diesel for your first restoration.  The main thing is to enjoy the tractor during and after the restoration!','',0,'','2mashrss',1,0,'',40,0,0),(556,10,3,116,0,'63.173.216.87',1045877187,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','I have been watching things develop on the museum in this forum, now I think it is time to express my opinon. I&#039;m sorry in advance if I offend anyone these are just my thoughts.\r\n   When I voted in favor of going forward with a museum I thought old plant site was only one being considered. I didn&#039;t realize there was another site in South Bend that we were looking at. This doesn&#039;t seem like a good idea.\r\n   First of all I don&#039;t think we can afford to buy residential property to demolish it, I think funding would be harder to come up with in this plan. I&#039;m not familiar with the area, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not slumtown.\r\n   Then you have the problem maybe not everyone wants to sell. This could create alot of ill feelings toward our organization,which I&#039;m sure you would not want. \r\n    From what I have read you don&#039;t have full support of  City Council on this plan. We need the help and support of everyone to make this work.\r\n    I think HPOCA should put all efforts into making this work at the old plant site.\r\n    If I am not correct in anything that I have said here please let me know, I&#039;m not to proud to admit being wrong. \r\n                                       Todd Kline','',0,'','f6spicpf',1,0,'',116,0,0),(557,118,2,116,0,'63.173.216.87',1045877815,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','Just wondering what the fate of #3 will be after this 3yr. loan is over? Will #3 go back to the Smithsonian to be displayed or back into storage?\r\n   Seems ashame to put all this time &amp;amp; effort  into it if nobody can enjoy it and benefit from it history.','',0,'','1a3nbi1q',1,0,'',116,0,0),(558,10,3,67,0,'64.6.2.98',1045881210,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Thank you very much for your input--this is what we need to hear.  To clarify a couple of points though, we had the idea of locating close to the Copshaholm museum brought to us in the first part of December, when the ballots were just about to be counted, and this is why it was not brought forward earlier.  It was proposed by one of the Oliver family members, with their endorsement.  We are only exploring the possibility at this point, and want to be thorough in exploring all possibilities before committing to any venture of this size.  If we were to locate there, it would have to be with the support of the city council and the city would have to take the role of any property consolidations to make the space available to us.  The neighborhood does have several properties that are not in the best of condition, and it is not a ritzy area.  We have not given up on the idea of locating in the old plant buildings, but I do feel that we owe it to the membership to explore all options as best we can before making a decision.  As always, we do greatly value your input, so please don&#039;t hesitate to let us know what you think.  Thanks, Terry.','',0,'','g43yameo',1,0,'',67,0,0),(559,118,2,67,0,'64.6.2.98',1045881417,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','That is a good question.  At this point, there are no definite plans after the 3 year loan, at least that I am aware of.  Any decision on the will have to come from the Smithsonian, as it does still belong to them.  We can hope that we might have some input, but all we can do right now is plan to enjoy it for 3 years as best we can.','',0,'','19yk3l4g',1,0,'',67,0,0),(560,137,1,119,0,'208.189.21.144',1045889169,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Lee W','','Greg you can send me a E-Mail at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:lmwegner@cpol.net\">lmwegner@cpol.net</a><!-- e --> and I will get back to you.','',0,'','1gctlkux',1,0,'',119,0,0),(561,144,1,165,0,'206.105.8.250',1045963087,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tonythetiger','what is the correct carburetor for 1944 oliver 99','','',0,'0','1dyfyqzf',1,0,'',165,0,0),(562,144,1,160,0,'64.186.198.197',1045966600,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SexyFarmerRob','','you might try checking an old oliver 99 manual','',0,'','po7g75cv',1,0,'',160,0,0),(563,144,1,119,0,'208.189.21.143',1045974181,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Lee W','carb','MS TTX-21, and MS TSX-394 for the late 99&#039;s','',0,'','2z9xjgcm',1,0,'',119,0,0),(564,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.120',1045975677,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Kline,\r\nYou are not by yourself, several members have mentioned to me that they voted for the old site. I agree that before action is taken the board should get membership approval for whichever site. This should be accomplished on the annual ballot, but time limitations could result in other methods, such as at a membership meeting. That is a good reason to attend as many of our meeting as possible, there you can voice your opinion. As you know, this issue was on the ballot to look into the issue, not start a museum. There is a big difference there. Once it is found as to what is involved, I am certain Terry will inform the members. This could be a long and involved process, generally raising funds of this nature and amount is. From what I am seeing it would be easier to raise the funding for the old Oliver building. But, who knows, maybe somebody will deposit a few million for us to go the other route. One thing for sure, it is bad manners to look a gift horse in the mouth.\r\nSee all Y&#039;all in Wentzville, Mo.','',0,'','cel87k0g',1,0,'',47,0,0),(565,132,5,35,0,'67.32.84.234',1045976625,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Classified ads','I would like to see a classified section. Since I am an avid Oliver toy collector I sometime will have some that I would like to sell without fooling with ebay. I would like to hear what other members think about having an only Oliver classified section. There could be a nominal fee for the service.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','uwshh13l',1,0,'',35,0,0),(566,140,1,47,0,'67.241.135.120',1045977564,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','There are several considerations. Do you want a wheel tractor, or a tracklayer? How do you intend to haul it, or will you be hauling it? What do you have as far as a place to keep and work on it? I will look at this as though your just getting started, and have a minimal ability. First, wheel tractor or tracklayer is a matter of availability and personal preferance, you may need to go with whatever you find locally. As far as the other two issues, I would say a 60 Standard or one of the narrower gauge HG&#039;s, as they are both easy to work on, and haul. A 60 Standard will fit in the back of an 8&#039; pickup truck bed, as will the 2 narrowest gauge HG&#039;s, just take precautions not to bend the tailgate. If you have greater ability to haul and store your tractor, you might opt for a 70, a more common HG-68, or one of the Fleetlines. For a first tractor I would recommend one of the smaller ones, in good straight running condition, even if a good one costs a little more. That way you won&#039;t tie up alot of time and money getting your project finished. I have seen where this has been an important factor with first time collectors. Get the first one done fast and easy, thus you won&#039;t lose interest in the project. There will be time for bigger and better projects, and you will find it to be a learning experience.\r\nSee all y&#039;all in Wentzville, Mo. March, 28-29','',0,'','1jhm88f3',1,0,'',47,0,0),(567,132,5,47,0,'67.241.135.120',1045978666,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','There is a small fee for non-members to place a classified ad in our magazine, but, placing an ad for members is included in our dues. I feel it would be to our benefit to adhere to this long established policy, on our website also.','',0,'','lldbipna',1,0,'',47,0,0),(568,138,1,47,0,'67.241.135.120',1045979137,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey,\r\nAnybody know about Hydra-Lectric? I don&#039;t mess with Fleetlines much, but one of you should be able to help this guy out! His problem doesn&#039;t seem so complicated, sounds like some sort of valve problem.','',0,'','2r3vd8z5',1,0,'',47,0,0),(569,10,3,40,0,'64.12.96.137',1046025248,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Andy:\r\n\r\nI agree that usually it is bad manners to look a &amp;quot;gift horse&amp;quot; in the mouth, unless of course he does not have all of his teeth. \r\n\r\nBy that I mean,  the club can&#039;t just accept grants, donated funds, land, buildings, etc. for the museum project  and grant others &amp;quot;control&amp;quot; without keeping our eye on the total effort involved to open a museum.  \r\n\r\nSo if the &amp;quot;gift horse&amp;quot; is going to provide the wherewithal so we can finish the race fine, but if the donation of land, a building or funding will only get us &amp;quot;out of the starting gate&amp;quot; and we have to figure out how to run the rest of the race, i.e. complete the museum, we don&#039;t want the gift horse(s) thinking  they are also the sitting in the saddle playing the role of the jockey.\r\n\r\nI also agree with Kline about what a yes vote meant on the ballot in the NOV/DEC 2002 magazine.  To pursue looking into a museum at the site of the  old Oliver factory buildings is what I think my &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; vote aprroved.  Now that is not to say that a museum at the Copshaholm site or someplace else in South Bend would not be just as good.  I also know that these other possibilities were not known at the time the ballots were printed.  But I just don&#039;t think that I or other members voted on that, and the fact that the majority voted yes on those ballots does not give a green light for pusuing a museum just anyplace that may show up.  Therefore, I would think that the officers and directors of the club would try to get some input from the general membership before they go too far down the pike looking at alternative sites.\r\n\r\nHave a great West Virginia day!   <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','hxbg6z2m',1,0,'',40,0,0),(570,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.191',1046026725,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Bill,\r\nYou do bring up some valid points. I believe this issue will be addressed in some manner at the Winter Get Together. But, I don&#039;t believe we are anywhere close to making a final decision. My reasoning for this is it takes an enormous amount of planning and organization in order to move forward and be acceptable to those who can help us financially. Those who would sponsor this project need info. Would you help an organization which told you they needed several million dollars to make a project work, but couldn&#039;t give you a breakdown on what the money would be spend for? Nobody else will either! We will need to acquire a person or persons with the necessary expertise to put together a package that can win the approval of those who are able to finance this project. In addition, this person needs to know who to approach, and who is a waste of time. Someone of this profession would out of necessity, be in continuous contact with those who wish to help on projects such as this. Basically, what we will need is a professional grantwriter, a consultant who can and does make these sort of projects viable.\r\nAnother good issue you bring forward is the ability to make the museum self supporting. This is a necessity. In the environment of our hobby, there would not be sufficient demand for this. Thus, it will be necessary to create a demand thru promotion. This is where we will need both an experienced staff, and an endowment fund. I know of a top notch administrator who has exhibited Indian pottery, in the desert, successfully, he even has a tractor show every year to great success, in New Mexico. It is not so much as what the museum exhibits, as how the museum is promoted. A successful administrator will know how to make that work. But, this is way down the road from what we are looking at now. We are now in the crawling stages, in time we will run, but, not today! This project will take lots of time, a museum is much more that just a building with some exhibits inside, it must be structured as a business, complete with all the necessary tools to succeed.\r\nI have addressed these issues to President Terry Allen in the past. So, he is aware of the size of this undertaking, and is addressing it in a competent manner!\r\nIt is good to have members such as yourself, who THINK! Asking tough questions can be a good thing, it helps to eliminate future mistakes. One thing our Officers and Directors can always use is good input from the members, thus they can determine the will of the members.\r\nSee all Y&#039;all at the Winter Get Together in Wentzville, Mo March 28-29, 2003\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','25c06jp6',1,0,'',47,0,0),(571,10,3,116,0,'63.173.216.55',1046027474,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','Andy,\r\n     I agree with you Terry &amp;amp; and all that are involved are doing a great job.\r\n     Bill also has a point as to where the money comes from. There is no such thing as free money, so called freebies may have alot of strings attached. We don&#039;t want or hands tied and lose control of what we want to do as an organization.\r\n      Todd Kline','',0,'','20ulm4bf',1,0,'',116,0,0),(572,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.191',1046030661,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Bill,\r\nIf the gift horse doesn&#039;t have teeth, and is not of any use, the glue factory will still give good money for it. I agree we need some sort of control over this issue, to what extent I am not yet decided. I do feel a separate entity should be formed, as this has implications to become a potential liability. That does in no way mean it is bad, on the contrary, it appears to be beneficial. To further explain, this museum will be open to the public, which creates the potential for liability, with a separation, we reduce our liability by about half. I am just more comfortable with the idea of insulating HPOCA to some extent from the museum. The museum in my opinion should be formed as a foundation, under the control and supervision of HPOCA. But, it should be a self supporting organization.\r\nI neither support or don&#039;t support the idea of locating to another place. It is just too early to tell, we need more input to make an informed decision. Two things I do support, the will of the members must be done, and whatever is the most beneficial to our association. From what I have seen, to the present time I believe this would be the Oliver plant location. It is my opinion that restoration funding for the historic building would be easier to come by than funding to build a new building. I have looked into some of this, and there are numerous federal agencies that have programs made to fit this project. One small program that not too many people know about is any building on the register of historic places is a good candidate to apply for a joint grant to the EPA and Dept. of Energy. This is for a custom designed HVAC system that is computer controlled, fuel efficient, and has very low emissions. There are numerous programs such as this out there, just takes some hunting. Whereas to build new, we would need to look more to private funding. HPOCA is not in any position to take on the funding of a museum, so, it is my opinion that any private funding we can get would be better allocated to an endowment fund. We have and will run into problems on this project, but that doesn&#039;t mean it is not feasible. It is very feasible, we just need to determine the best route to follow. I feel there will be considerable progress made in Wentzville.\r\nWe had flood here in West Virginia last week, now there is snow, how is Virginia faring?\r\nI&#039;ll see all Y&#039;all in Wentzville, Mo- March, 28-29, 2003\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','zdvw82op',1,0,'',47,0,0),(573,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.238',1046038180,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','Oliver Factory site photos','Here are some pictures of the site where the proposed museum would go. This is so everybody can get an idea of where everything is and what buildings we are talking about.\r\nThis first picture is from sometime in the late 1960&#039;s to early 1970&#039;s from what I can figure. North is to the left side, with Chapin Street on the East and Arnold Street on the West.\r\n\r\nThe building surrounded in green is the Forge#2/Base fit building where the museum would be.\r\n\r\nThe building surrounded in blue is the boiler house and smoke stack.\n\n[Edited on 2-24-2003 by Chris]','',0,'','1dqap3zd',1,0,'',17,0,0),(574,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.238',1046038340,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Here&#039;s that picture....','',0,'','1z6risd8',1,0,'',17,0,0),(575,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.238',1046038670,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','This is a map that tells info about the buildings on the site. It is oriented upside-down from the above image, with Arnold street on the top and Chapin Street on the bottom. North is to the right.\r\nForge#2 and Base Fit are in yellow and the Boiler house is in green.\r\nEach building has a number and the year built on it.','',0,'','j2gdvxal',1,0,'',17,0,0),(576,146,1,7,0,'64.12.96.106',1046043059,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Summer Show License Plates','Here it is, the proof copy for the special event license plates.\r\n\r\nIf you want one you can send a check for $35 ($30 for the plate and $5 for S&amp;amp;H)to:\r\n\r\nI&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor &amp;amp; Gas Engine Club\r\nPO Box 65\r\nPenfield, IL 61862\r\nAttn: Special event plates\r\n\r\nIf you want to save the S&amp;amp;H you can arrange to pick up the plates on or after May 8,2003. \r\n\r\nSome club members get the same number every year, and the tractor numbers (60,66,70etc.) will be auctioned March 15th at the club swap meet in Penfield, IL. If you don&#039;t want a specific number, put a note with your payment that you will take any available number.\r\n\r\nIf you are going to display the plate on a vehicle IN ILLINOIS ONLY include a copy of the registration with your drivers license number with your order. The plates can be displayed 60 days prior to the show. At this time I believe there will be 300 plates available.\r\n\r\nIf I can answer any other questions let me know. Sometimes there are plates available at the show, last year we sold out of 440 plates.','',0,'','2sd61eao',1,0,'',7,0,0),(577,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.97',1046052964,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Here is Forge#2 and Base fit from the northeast. This is the side that would be the front of the museum. \r\nThe Church steeples in the background are not part of the building, although the long roof with the green siding is.','',0,'','2kdjdn3z',1,0,'',17,0,0),(578,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.97',1046053317,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Here is the interior of Forge#2 from the north end looking south. Forge#2 is building 47 on the White layout map above.','',0,'','219cfyuh',1,0,'',17,0,0),(579,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.97',1046053703,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Here is a picture of the interior of Base Fit, or building 46 of the White map. It was taken in close to the same spot as above, except I was facing east. This and the previous photo were taken on June 15th, 2002.','',0,'','324feqeo',1,0,'',17,0,0),(580,145,3,17,0,'216.93.70.97',1046054041,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','My thanks go to Bill Brandt for the idea of posting these pictures to help out. Some of us, especially myself, take for granted that we know that layout of the site. I hope this helps everybody to visualize what we have to work with.','',0,'','32hxntz4',1,0,'',17,0,0),(581,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.97',1046055194,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Another advantage is there will be over 50,000 square feet of floor space at the factory, with ample room for parking. I am told the site next to Copshaholm would be half the square footage, with very limited parking.\r\n\r\nAs to AGCO, it is hard to say with them. They definitely should be approached. The John Deere museum in Moline Ill. has a large backing from corporate JD. I imagine some space used to promote AGCO would be worth something to them.','',0,'','4wryrdk6',1,0,'',17,0,0),(582,145,3,40,0,'205.188.209.71',1046057857,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Chris:\r\n\r\nThanks for posting the pictures and the map.  It is easier to see what would be the museum with the information that you have posted.\r\n\r\nYou are correct there is a lot of space that could be used for display purposes.   Other than the parking lots, would there be a &amp;quot;grounds area&amp;quot; that could be landscaped and maybe used for some outdoor displays, e.g. threshing machines, combines etc.?\r\n\r\nThanks again.<!-- s;) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s;) -->','',0,'','xpvy3iu8',1,0,'',40,0,0),(583,10,3,47,0,'65.238.36.217',1046070544,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Chris,\r\nAs to AGCO, if they want promotional or historical value from this venture they will need to contribute to the project. I see great potential for this project, but any who seek to gain thru promotion of their product or otherwise should not get a free ride, no matter how well we like them. Promo costs! We should not give things of promotional value away for cheap or free! If AGCO wants to pay their fair share they will need to be compensated with an equal promotional value, if not then they will deserve nothing. Just the hard facts of life. I have seen several picures of this plant, I load my truck in steel mills that are nowhere as good of shape as these buildings. Yet, I can see that there will be considerable improvements necessary to bring these buildings from the condition they are presently in to the conditions required for a museum. The key to this will be the acquisition of funding, and professional administration. I have not been educated as to the administration of museums, which leaves me out. This is kind of a strange thing, museum administrators of the experience and competency we require are hard to find. I know one, Dick Welch, but presently he is committed. That does not mean that if this project has sufficient potential to bear fruit he will not be available. I think he might be talked into helping us, or find a collegue who will. But, it will take some strong words to convince him or anyone of his caliber to approach a project like this. Administrators like this tend to stick to the established museums. I have talked to Dick, he does question this project, but feels it is feasible. I feel the key is in funding. This will be the avenue we need to approach. Without federal funding I don&#039;t see this project happening. Yet, the average bill passes congress with only 2 constituents per representative deciding the outcome. Our organization can easily outdistance the average. But in order to get in this position we will need professional assistance. We must have our ducks in a row. When a representative is approached, it must be with something that can be passed into the budget, not garbage. I can not overstate the importance of having an experienced professional grantwriter. We could mess around and eventually get educated into this process, but the education will cost far more than hiring a professional. As to the costs of these professional, I feel they can be written off the project as consultation, thus costing HPOCA nothing, once the books are balanced.','',0,'','2oji0zdz',1,0,'',47,0,0),(584,10,3,17,0,'216.93.69.166',1046103579,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','Andy, I agree, we can just give away space for free. That was my point when I said that it should be worth something to AGCO to have some space. In this case, Something = Money.','',0,'','3ck3zafj',1,0,'',17,0,0),(585,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.229',1046105270,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Chris,\r\nI wasn&#039;t trying to beat up on you, I&#039;m sure you know that. Just trying to make it understood to all that there may need to be some trade off&#039;s. As we both know the main issue will be funding, which if addressed properly can be accomplished. We currently don&#039;t know what AGCO&#039;s position is, they may very well sponsor a portion of this project just for recognition. I deal annually with WalMart as a sponsor for fundraising events. They will match funds up to $5,000 if the benefit raises at least $1,000. All they want is to get their name in the public view, for doing good deeds. A simple advertising banner they provide does this. That is the trade off. My point is there is money out there, it just takes someone who knows where to look.\r\nOne thing I have experienced is that there are certain times of the year when it is more beneficial to apply to sponsors for funding, and there are certain timeframes as well as time limitations. Some corporate sponsors will donate, but must have the donation a year or two in advance to coordinate with their accounting dept.,working it into their budgets. So, if we go this route, we need to understand these variables.\r\nSee y&#039;all in Wentzville, Mo. March 28-29, 2003\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3i0lsmo8',1,0,'',47,0,0),(586,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.229',1046106978,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Kline,\r\nThat is one of the main reasons that I advocate federal funding, once government funding is acquired, normally the strings have been taken care of. There are limitations, etc.,the money has to be accounted for. Normally the strings are political, constituents will need to contact their representatives expressing support for the project. There may be trade off&#039;s we never know about, that is how pork barrel politics work. Where as with private or corporate funding the strings tend to be more obvious, and can even hinder things.\r\nSee y&#039;all in Wentzville, Mo. March, 28-29, 2003.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','1nq57qth',1,0,'',47,0,0),(587,146,1,12,0,'209.240.212.227',1046120908,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Tractor on plate','I thought the 880 was the feature tractor. The plate doesn&#039;t always have the feature? WB.','',0,'','35331wkd',1,0,'',12,0,0),(588,146,1,7,0,'152.163.189.71',1046140067,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Tractor on Plate','The state actually has control of the image that ends up on the plate. We submitted 3 different images and this is what we got. Last year it was an IH 2+2, 2001 was a AC WD45D, I don&#039;t remember the Case, but the CAT was a D7. I guess the short answer is no, the feature tractor is not always the one that ends up on the plate. There will be a toy model of the 880 available for sale. John','',0,'','n8har8sg',1,0,'',7,0,0),(589,146,1,5,0,'216.166.193.199',1046142308,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','toy tractor','Hi John. The 880 model you spoke of will be in 1/16 scale, right? Will it have flat top fenders or clam shell,  and narrow front or wide? Jim','',0,'','9j6kvwy5',1,0,'',5,0,0),(590,138,1,40,0,'64.12.96.166',1046146421,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Don&#039;t know much about Hydra-Lectric.  But Larry Harsin does and Wiley got the information he needed from Larry.  Just in case anyone else is interested I&#039;ve copied Larry&#039;s answer below. \r\n\r\n&amp;quot;I&#039;m guessing that someone has utilized the power beyond port. There is a 1/2 inch pipe plug directly ahead of where the front hose hooks on for the left-hand valve. Remove this 1/2&amp;quot; pipe plug and see if there is a 3/8&amp;quot; pipe plug blocking the passage. Where this 3/8&amp;quot; plug would be sitting is approx. 2 inches inside. This 3/8&amp;quot; plug is blocking the passage that goes over to the hydraulic filter. Simply remove it and reinstall the 1/2&amp;quot; pipe plug and everything should work. Larry&amp;quot;   <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2da20fg8',1,0,'',40,0,0),(591,147,1,151,0,'139.78.254.154',1046185251,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve Doede','70 Industrial','Does anyone know where I can get side shields for a 70 Industrial (no hole in side)?  Also, did they have a rear light?  Was the winter front bar held on with wing nuts?  Is that how it rolled up?  What is the shift pattern for a three speed?  Did the dash light have a cover?   If so, where can I get one?  Would also like to talk to a 70 Industrial owner. My number is 918-293-5392 days, 918-756-7371 nights.  Thanks.','',0,'','27ew6z3e',1,0,'',151,0,0),(592,138,1,159,0,'65.170.120.130',1046186205,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wiley','Reply to Mr. Bill Brandt','MR.Bill Brandt, I appreciated the help that I received from Larry. Unfortunately the problem that I have with this Hydraulic Unit goes deeper then just removing the plug. I removed the plug as Larry instructed and my controls started to work. However, there is no lifting power within the system. I am getting a 2000 lbs gauge so that I can test my line pressures. I am still looking for suggestions on why this unit is not developing enough power to lift my plow. I am very thankful for the help that I received from Mr. Larry Harsin and all the other Oliver experts.\r\nThanks again\r\nBill Wiley.','',0,'','2tdymewe',1,0,'',159,0,0),(593,148,1,121,0,'66.222.85.216',1046236148,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SwenNilsson','Oliver 70 Gasket sets','Anyone have a good source for full or partial gasket sets for the Olver 70?','',0,'','a1qx1yd4',1,0,'',121,0,0),(594,148,1,151,0,'139.78.254.154',1046286260,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Steve Doede','','Try Maibach Tractor Parts  330-939-4192','',0,'','uasy0vn3',1,0,'',151,0,0),(595,147,1,67,0,'64.6.2.59',1046301427,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Steve--the industrial side panels are the same as the 70 standard panels (no hole in the side)  only the row crops had the hole in the side, for a cultivator support bracket. \r\nPanels are available from Richard Lynch, at Lynch Farms, Eaton, OH, or Steiner Tractor Parts in Holly, MI.  The radiator curtain was held on with wing nuts, and rolled up that way, when letting down, but pulled up with  a chain. There was not a 3 speed that I am aware of, but there was a 4 speed.  Shift pattern is the same as a 6 speed 70, minus 5th and 6th gear.  Most 4 speeds came out on steel, and many had 5th and 6th gears installed in the transmission, just blocked out of use.  The dash light did have a cover, check with Korves Oliver for a replacement light, or maybe a replacement cover.  I have a 70 industrial, as well as a 70 Cockshutt standard, and a 70 orchard.  Please feel free to call any time with questions.  I can be reached at 309-462-3635 most evenings.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','yyvzr2eu',1,0,'',67,0,0),(596,146,1,7,0,'205.188.209.41',1046311952,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Show tractor','','',0,'0','2zfe3mgt',1,0,'',7,0,0),(597,146,1,7,0,'205.188.209.41',1046312289,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Show tractor redux','Well, I guess you shouldn&#039;t push the enter key until you are finished!\r\n\r\nJim, I think this is the Spec Cast Oliver 880 with narrow front and flat top fenders, but don&#039;t quote me on that. I am by no means a toy guy and I only saw it once. It will be a limited edition unless demand warrants otherwise, a decision on serial numbers has not been made. It is my understanding that this will be the last cast metal tractor before the dies are sent to China and the tractors will be plastic or composite in the future. At this time 100 will be produced and they are $50 each. If you need more info, contact Don Barnett. John','',0,'','ch63gppt',1,0,'',7,0,0),(598,121,1,119,0,'208.189.21.133',1046325802,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Lee W','70 head','This is two of the No&#039;s I found for 70 HC. This is the casting No. prior to Ser No 211226 (D60CA507).  (D600A612) for Ser No. 213498-223150. Hope this helps.','',0,'','nbc3r623',1,0,'',119,0,0),(599,149,1,167,0,'159.49.254.12',1046382677,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bob Wiley','Power Steering Conversion','Can I convert a Non-power steering Row Crop Super 66 to power steering and if so does anybody have the entire setup available.<!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P -->','',0,'','17w4fwlm',1,0,'',167,0,0),(600,149,1,96,0,'216.201.29.33',1046394403,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Power Steering','Don&#039;t know what kind of front end you have but the easiest way would be a Charlynn unit. The Oliver power steering was only available with the single front wheel models.','',0,'','g2wggn80',1,0,'',96,0,0),(601,150,3,5,0,'216.166.192.31',1046436202,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Penfield','How many of the people that post here are planning to make the trip to Penfield? Would be nice to meet you to put a face with a name. oleblu','',0,'','148nlgkn',1,0,'',5,0,0),(602,150,3,67,0,'64.6.2.147',1046492372,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Count me in, but then again, I already recognize your face.  Who could pass up the chance to see Hart Parr #3, possibly the only prototype Oliver Chilled Plow tractor, and a great bunch of people getting together to have a good time?  Terry.','',0,'','22jbleun',1,0,'',67,0,0),(603,151,1,165,0,'206.105.8.154',1046543692,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tonythetiger','1944 oliver','thank you lee w ihave the ms ttx21 i think my new manifold might have been cast for the newer one as the throttle bore is alittle bigger could i use the tsx-394 on my tractor are there any mounting prolems?','',0,'','165mt66w',1,0,'',165,0,0),(604,151,1,96,0,'216.201.29.69',1046551159,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','99 Carburetor','An easy way to tell might be to buy the correct mounting gasket for the late carburetor and see if it fits your manifols. I imagine when you say throttle bore you actually mean venturi size.','',0,'','cd9azynj',1,0,'',96,0,0),(605,150,3,12,0,'209.240.212.100',1046559893,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Wrenchbender','Planning on it!','I&#039;m planning on going and taking my 880 at least, since it&#039;s the feature tractor. Not too far from home, about 75 miles, and just talked to a guy yesterday that attended last year and said it was a really nice place. WB.','',0,'','1moup4vf',1,0,'',12,0,0),(606,150,3,35,0,'67.34.173.85',1046565707,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Penfield','I plan on coming from Jackson TN. and intend to bring a 1964 Oliver 550 Special, an Oliver 372 two row cultivator and an Oliver 75 lawn mower. (actually it is a converted Ford 75 but I put custom in the serial number just to be honest) If any one else is going from TN lrt me know through U2:D','',0,'','bkjif9lj',1,0,'',35,0,0),(607,150,3,116,0,'63.173.216.246',1046570280,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','i&#039;m hoping to get there, have to see how farming goes.couldn&#039;t go to Iowa last year, but really enjoyed Plain City. Hope I get the chance to meet all of you.\r\n                                  Todd Kline','',0,'','1zkat1yn',1,0,'',116,0,0),(608,150,3,7,0,'63.250.73.161',1046575843,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','I&#039;m already there','I was in Penfield today, anything I can do to help you guys out let me know. I know that in the past when the internet guys and gals would get together it was a very intertaining meeting. Let me know when you want to meet and I will get you a place and have it announced on the PA. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','3co5l167',1,0,'',7,0,0),(611,10,3,65,0,'216.183.132.172',1046635797,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','funding','I have delt with both private funding and provincial funding in canada in the startup and operating of a 110 acre farm show/museum . Private funding be it from the public donations /bequests [and we are getting bequests as members pass on ,not the way I prefer rather have my friends than money!] or money we raise though our club is far easier to manage than money have aquired though the province. In order to qualify for funds you have to &amp;quot;tailer make &amp;quot; your request. Fortunately our application writer also works for the local member of parliment so knows the ropes!! Even with his help it takes a lot of work to apply and now after the fact when you do recieve the grant the paper work trail is due bi-monthly even if nothing happens! And you better have a darn good bookkeeper [lucky for us we do !] but still require a chartered accountant from time to time. Our grants had to be spent EXACTLY on what we said in application and if we couldn&#039;t spend the money on that project [due to supplier donations] surplus had to be returned .But since have recieved a government grant our profile in the public eye has risen and local government support  is greater. Part of our last grant [$75000 ca] was for a museum consultant [$25000 ca.] and that was hard money to give to someone to tell us what to do! [Could have built another storage building ] but out of his report we found some other avenues we had overlooked. One thing in as large a project as museum in South Bend engineering costs will hurt ,unless you have a member thats interested, with our projects the local building inspector covers us. At the present time I am involved in negociations with the county museum reguarding all the agriculture equipment in their collection ,which we have allready at our location ,and the moving of a log cabin to the farm site. As the members who are dealing with the city or with the #3 project are finding out this takes time ....lots of time. I,ve been 3 plus years on the artifacts and going on 4 on the log cabin. So a year on something as big as South Bend is nothing. A lot of ego&#039;s to pet  [happens here ] and hope you don&#039;t have a municipal election before the paper is signed or its back to square one especially if old council is out. And just when you think nothing is going to happen SURPRISE you win ! What you win is a whole new set of problems!! Just keep smiling it make them wonder what is he up too now?','',0,'','xfr9wc4o',1,0,'',65,0,0),(614,153,1,165,0,'206.105.8.224',1046652789,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tonythetiger','crankshaft','wanted: crankshaft for 1755 diesel','',0,'','1d1c2lu7',1,0,'',165,0,0),(617,10,3,47,0,'65.238.36.243',1046850709,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Canada Grant,\r\nThere are considerable differences between how the two countries operate. One thing in common is it takes time. Here the best source is as a &#039;pork barrel&#039; project, which normally leaves lots of room to work, just as long as the politicians get to say &#039;Look at what I gave you&#039; in the next election. Of course all politicians have their pet projects, so they trade support. You scratch my back, I&#039;ll scratch yours! That is basically how it works here. We just need to capitalize on the system.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3lgdekdy',1,0,'',47,0,0),(618,154,3,7,0,'152.163.188.1',1047003556,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','HPOCA Magazine','Received my copy of the HPOCA magazine today and read it cover to cover. I am totally cranked up for the summer show to get here after reading about Hart-Parr #3. Visit us at <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->','',0,'','1kb4buv7',1,0,'',7,0,0),(619,58,1,172,0,'24.80.33.208',1047022718,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tractorboy880','hooked','','',0,'0','grdyc2n1',1,0,'',172,0,0),(620,58,1,172,0,'24.80.33.208',1047022962,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tractorboy880','','I got hooked driving our 880 Diesel Wheatland. As a kid of 12, that kingpin steering was as easy as our other tractor that had power steering. The Power Booster was kind of fun too. Now we have an 88 Standard gas with a Super front end. It has a DUAL loader.','',0,'','29cyv0nr',1,0,'',172,0,0),(621,155,1,156,0,'129.186.99.81',1047075146,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','Oliver 70 engine and wheel parts','I&#039;m a high school student and am restoring a 1939 70 for FFA.  I need to find new o-rings for the cylinder sleeves.  It is a three gear motor.  I also need to find new &amp;quot;snap rings&amp;quot; for my rear rims. Any help would be grateful. Also, the transmission housing has two small cracks between bearing races in the front, along the factory casting joint.  Should I try to fix this?\n\n[Edited on 3-10-2003 by Kevin Cordray]','',0,'','t2i12pwa',1,0,'',156,0,0),(622,156,1,156,0,'129.186.99.81',1047075593,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','Need Oliver 70 sheet metal','I need all four side panels for a styled Oliver 70.  They don&#039;t have to be perfect but nothing with rips or big bends. I also need a left side fender and a good dash.','',0,'','32xh48gp',1,0,'',156,0,0),(623,154,3,5,0,'216.166.193.96',1047090882,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Magazine','John, saw your post last night about you recieving the latest HPOCA mag. Didn&#039;t get mine yesterday, so I thought it would surely be in the mailbox today. WRONG! I may have to have a serious heart to heart with the postman and see if he&#039;s holding out on me( never heard of a closet OLIVER freak,most will openly admit it). Heck, I&#039;ve shoveled the snow clear across the yard  (three or four times this year)to make it easier for him.  I&#039;m not sure what may happen if it doesn&#039;t show up tomorrow . May do something stupid, like strike up a conversation with the wife. Could be a looong weekend.  oleblu','',0,'','1fte3w4q',1,0,'',5,0,0),(624,154,3,138,0,'198.70.154.39',1047096836,1,0,1,1,1,1,'RON','Magazine','No magazine in my mail box yet ,but still gone one day to go this week. My carrier is a OLIVER fan .Might be a used book when I get it.','',0,'','2pf7cbz1',1,0,'',138,0,0),(625,156,1,98,0,'209.51.206.98',1047142748,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','70 parts','Try yesterday tractors site I seen 2 -70&#039;s  in the adds for parts . Mike;)','',0,'','2v3cai8d',1,0,'',98,0,0),(626,154,3,67,0,'64.6.2.119',1047163796,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Hopefully oleblu and Ron were as fortunate as I was today.  New magazine in my mailbox, as was my son&#039;s.  Talked to the club sec. in Indianapolis, and he got his last Saturday.  Go figure the postal system, as all are mailed at once.  Magazine looking good, and getting  primed for a great summer show in Penfield.  Terry.','',0,'','2g8xz3yb',1,0,'',67,0,0),(627,154,3,5,0,'216.166.192.85',1047173357,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','oleblu','Yup, got mine today, too. Gonna be quiet this weekend around here, wife reading romance novel and I&#039;ll be reading OLIVER love stories!  oleblu','',0,'','9tk63k5m',1,0,'',5,0,0),(628,154,3,7,0,'205.188.209.71',1047175882,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Guess we know where your priorities lie','If the wife is reading a romance novel and you settle for tractor stories!LOL:D','',0,'','3pmltoqk',1,0,'',7,0,0),(629,154,3,5,0,'216.166.192.85',1047178919,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','oleblu','John, wife and kids say I&#039;m &amp;quot;twisted&amp;quot; just because I sleep with my raffle tickets under my pillow so I can dream of owning another Oliver. I tell them if I&#039;m not over that by the middle of July, I&#039;ll seek profesonal help. Maybe more tickets would help.... oleblu','',0,'','362zvv2c',1,0,'',5,0,0),(630,154,3,35,0,'67.34.173.85',1047180177,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','','My magazine didn&#039;t come today. (sat.) I will have to wait until Monday and if isn&#039;t in the mailbox PANIC CITY','',0,'','28logeml',1,0,'',35,0,0),(631,154,3,138,0,'198.70.154.6',1047184019,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RON','MAGAZINE','Had mine in mail box tonight when I got home from peoria hospital. Guess I can read while she sleeps.','',0,'','j82a2ejt',1,0,'',138,0,0),(632,154,3,142,0,'216.166.193.193',1047243947,1,0,1,1,1,0,'98dba','','I was lucky enough to get my magazine yesterday, but the only problem was dad got to it before I did...  So while he has something to read at work I have to wait till I can get to it.  I&#039;ll just have to tell the postman to keep him away from it next time so I can get a fresh copy instead of used <!-- s;) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s;) -->','',0,'','2lrm3ufi',1,0,'',142,0,0),(633,154,3,67,0,'64.6.2.45',1047261185,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Boy, talk about me and Rodney Dangerfield--we get no respect!  Just because I can&#039;t resist the chance to look at a new magazine, I get a lot of feedback!  Oh well, at least I saw an auction coming up in Wisconsin in April, anybody ready for a road trip?','',0,'','2p14yc56',1,0,'',67,0,0),(634,138,1,72,0,'216.241.149.88',1047511887,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Larry','help for electra hydro.','check out the oliver gaing web sight in this\r\nsights links.  or contact \r\n\r\nBill Gamble\r\n698 Mercer Van Wert Rd.\r\nWillshire, Oh. 45898\r\n\r\nOr call him at (419) 495-2600 \r\n\r\n<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1yxvrtcx',1,0,'',72,0,0),(635,157,1,175,0,'152.163.188.39',1047514477,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sexytractors','oliver 60 loader','I have a loader off an oliver 60 with the pump and everything. not really sure what it is worth not broken or welded located in nh.','',0,'','gp7uy71q',1,0,'',175,0,0),(636,154,3,47,0,'67.241.135.6',1047519178,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Terry,\r\nAt least nobody said really bad stuff!! Lots of feedback can be a good thing, lets you know what they are up to. I think the content in this magazine is better than it has been in some time, it is much more interesting, just my opinion. I don&#039;t know about a roadtrip to another auction, where am I gonna put them? I don&#039;t mind going to Wisconsin, but I am running out of shed, barn, garage, and borrowed space. I guess I could buy some old van trailers.','',0,'','26a5t2xn',1,0,'',47,0,0),(637,150,3,5,0,'216.166.193.188',1047530015,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Penfield','John, I thought this would stir up some of those &amp;quot;wandering&amp;quot; feelings we all have but from the lack of response so far, maybe a 12 pack will do it in Penfield. (PEPSI, of course)  oleblu','',0,'','2ap3pu0o',1,0,'',5,0,0),(638,154,3,35,0,'67.34.173.85',1047595057,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','magazine','Gee!\r\nI wish I could read the content. I still haven&#039;t received the Mar-April edition. Is there any one else who is anxiously awaiting theie issue. May be that the US Postal Service has forgotten that Tennessee hilbillies can read.<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->:(','',0,'','3vsy9lgz',1,0,'',35,0,0),(639,158,3,67,0,'64.6.2.62',1047602568,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','Membership cards','Just a note to update everyone on our new membership cards.  If you have renewed recently, you have probably noticed that you didn&#039;t get a membership card.  There was an oversight on my part in getting these included in the change over of the handling of our data base.  I apologize for the mistake, but the new cards are now being printed, and will be on the way to you shortly.  Sorry for the inconvenience, Terry.','',0,'','3khvascf',1,0,'',67,0,0),(640,159,3,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1047606084,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Old No. 3','I was reading in the magazine about moving the Old No. 3 and wondered were it was moved to? I was talking to another guy this evening and we were just curious. If it went to Penfield, then it passed within eye-sight of my house along I-74! WB.','',0,'','2alwotr2',1,0,'',12,0,0),(641,159,3,5,0,'216.166.193.131',1047606237,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','#3','My understanding is it went to Grenville, IL. From Indy they probably took I-70. Hope to see you in Penfield. oleblu','',0,'','1ogob19p',1,0,'',5,0,0),(642,146,1,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1047614348,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Feature 880 Toy Tractor','You will be able to order the toy at the winter meeting, Donna Bedell will be there to take your order. They will be numbered and limitted to 100 produced unless there is overwhelming demand to have more.','',0,'','kez508m2',1,0,'',7,0,0),(643,160,1,7,0,'64.12.96.106',1047615837,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Summer Show Meeting','There will be a meeting of the feature committee at the I&amp;amp;I Club March 20,2003 at 7PM. This meeting is open to everyone that is interested in Hart Parr and Oliver tractors and machinery that will be exhibited at the summer show and locating those pieces that we should seek out for the show. We generally try to keep this meeting to 1 1/2 to 2 hours and just have ageneral discussion of feature equipment. If you have items that you would like to exhibit email a list to me and I will be glad to present it if you can&#039;t come to the meeting yourself. Also, feel free to email any contact information that you have. John\r\n\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->\n\n[Edited on 14-3-2003 by John (C-IL)]','',0,'','2jwd4crp',1,0,'',7,0,0),(644,160,1,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1047615938,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','CORRECTION','The date for the meeting is March[u:2dn3w9ci]20[/u:2dn3w9ci],2003. Sorry','',0,'AQ==','2dn3w9ci',1,0,'',7,0,0),(645,10,3,40,0,'64.12.96.137',1047617553,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Stopped and looked at the proposed site for the musuem on the 11th of March.  Went through the construction gate off of Chapin Street.  Not very much left except the power house and its smokestack and the building that might be the musuem.  Entering off of Chapin the musuem would be at the back of the industrial site.  Would it be possible to get to the musuem off of Arnold after it was all done?\r\n\r\nDid not get to go in the building. The guys doing the cleanup let me drive up to the building and take some pictures from the outside.  There will be a lot of work to be done before a musuem is open.  It probably won&#039;t be cheap, but then what is these days?  \r\n\r\nI would think it will be 3-5 years before the site is built back up, so I would suppose we would have some time to work on the musuem, but the longer that building stands there with windows out and holes in the roof the more expensive it will be to fix it up.  Plus I would suppose the city would want us to improve the looks of the building and the site as soon as possible.\r\n\r\nOverall I think it would be interesting to have the musuem in the building.  Although it would also be nice to have a site right off of the turnpike at either exit.  If a musuem is going to be &amp;quot;in downtown&amp;quot; South Bend I would think the building would be a better site than having it at the Oliver Mansion.  Of course if those with the most funds like the mansion site, I suppose that would be okay also. \r\n\r\nIn my mind it will be a &amp;quot;big project&amp;quot; for a club the size of HPOCA, but it is possible if the right team is in charge of getting it done.\r\n\r\nWhen we start dealing with the federal, state and city governments for funds permits, taxes, etc. the redtape for Hart Parr Number 3 will seem like a piece of cake!:P','',0,'AQ==','24yuoe7j',1,0,'',40,0,0),(646,10,3,47,0,'67.241.135.241',1047651236,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Bill,\r\nNow you have some concept of what I told you, when I said it would be an enormous undertaking, one that will take several years. But, I also can see where you understand it can be done. My friend Dick Welch was telling me one day that tractor collectors can be fanatical when they want something. Well, we will need to become fanatics over things bigger than paint codes.','',0,'AQ==','a2x4frr0',1,0,'',47,0,0),(647,154,3,47,0,'67.241.135.241',1047651879,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Frank,\r\nTennessee hillbillies can read? Well, you got one on us WV hillbillies, we can&#039;t read or write, and can hardly speak, just grunt, and mutter. I got my magazine a week ago, and have been looking at the pretty pictures as I can&#039;t read or write. I believe it would be in order for you to e-mail Sherry and get another copy sent out. This happens on occasion, something gets screwed up. Are you sure your dues are up to date? I did that one time. I was renewing every year at Louisville, somehow I slipped thru the cracks, and never did get that one issue. Then the mail messes up on a regular basis, too.','',0,'AQ==','c24memcg',1,0,'',47,0,0),(648,161,1,176,0,'216.61.121.130',1047696627,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Barry-KC','RC 70 Distributor','What is the setting for the points on a 3 gear &amp;quot;70&amp;quot; engine please.\r\nThanks','',0,'AQ==','uilphmdo',1,0,'',176,0,0),(649,154,3,35,0,'65.82.175.233',1047698467,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','magazine','Andy\r\nI have my dues paid until mid 2004 so that is not the problem. I had the same problem with the Jan.-Feb. issue. I notified Sherry and was  sent one immediately. I got the issue that I was supposed to get in mid Feb. It is not the fault of the staff therefore I feel it has to do with the Postal Service. I am wondering if any one else has this problem.<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'AQ==','2sh2zpau',1,0,'',35,0,0),(650,162,1,177,0,'12.25.246.142',1047740483,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mccormick3','Scale Model 70 for sale','I have for sale a Scale Model 1/16 scale Oliver 70 toy tractor, serial #3580, mfg. date stamp November 1983.  The tractor is on full steel and is in mint condition.  There is no box.  I am asking $60.00 (obo) plus shipping and handling.  Thank you.','',0,'AQ==','3kystqdc',1,0,'',177,0,0),(651,163,1,177,0,'12.25.246.142',1047740703,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mccormick3','Ertl 1/16 Scale Oliver OC-3 Crawler For Sale','I have for sale an Ertl 1/16 scale Oliver OC-3 Crawler for sale.  The crawler is in mint condition in its original box. I am asking $25.00 plus shipping and handling. Thank you.','',0,'AQ==','1p5hlvxq',1,0,'',177,0,0),(652,164,1,111,0,'80.40.18.189',1047766332,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jeff.davis','Are you an Expert on Oliver 70 Gauges??','What are the correct temp/oil/amp engine gauges for a 1941 70 Row Crop?  Are the faces yellow?  Are the bezels chrome, brite or painted?\r\n\r\nany help appreciated.\r\n\r\nJeff','',0,'AQ==','1d9kqf9p',1,0,'',111,0,0),(653,10,3,17,0,'216.93.70.54',1047777057,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Chris','','The museum committee held a meeting in South Bend on March 8th. \r\n     Andy Laurent from the City of South Bend ( <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.ci.south-bend.in.us/\">http://www.ci.south-bend.in.us/</a><!-- m --> ) reported to us that clean up at the site was progressing well and was actually coming in under budget. They anticipate everything to be cleaned and leveled back out by August 1st. Around the third week of August they plan to start building the road that will go into the site with completion sometime by October, since all concrete for City projects cannot be poured after this time due to the cold of winter. Once that is done, they plan to start the big push for selling the lots during the winter of 03-04, with construction of new buildings beginning in the spring of 2004.\r\n    Here&#039;s what they would like to see from us. They would like the Forge#2 and Base Fit buildings cleaned up and stabilized so that they look decent by the winter of 03-04. This would keep it from being an eyesore while they are trying to sell the land. Plus they don&#039;t want it looking bad in the background while the Mayor does a ribbon cutting in the spring of 2004.\r\n\r\nTodd Ziegler from the Historic Landmarks Foundation ( <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.historiclandmarks.org\">http://www.historiclandmarks.org</a><!-- m --> )told us that he could help us line up money to do the stabilization. Some would be from direct grants, some would be matching grants and some would be by using their loan fund. Plus the City would be willing to consider putting forward the money they figured they would have spent tearing down the buildings if nothing were to be done with them. This gave us an amount of around $400,000 that we could raise in short order to use to stabilize the buildings for now. I would think this amount would do a good job of stabilizing the buildings.\r\n     We also discussed the street presence of the former factory site. According to the City plan, the new road will go west directly towards the Boiler House, curve around it and then head directly towards Forge#2 and Base Fit.  It is felt that narrowness of Arnold street and the fact that it is a residential area would prohibit that side from being a main access point. Other than an opening for a service drive, Arnold street is not considered a feasable entry point. It was felt that the street presence is not a terribly important detail since this would be a destination museum and not one that you just drive by and think, &#039;oh, I&#039;ll go there today&#039;. We would of course have a sign that was cleary visible from Chapin Street. Plus it was suggested that a tractor and a plow near the sign at the entrance would be enough to catch the attention of any farm equipment buff driving by. If we can spot an Oliver in the back of a barn from the car, we ought to be able to spot this.\r\n\r\n     We then discussed the possibility of building near the Northern Indiana Center for History and Copshaholm ( <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.centerforhistory.org\">http://www.centerforhistory.org</a><!-- m --> ) . We were told by John Oxian of the Historic Preservation Commission ( <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://community.michiana.org/historic/homepage.html\">http://community.michiana.org/historic/homepage.html</a><!-- m --> ) that there are a limited number of sites near the Center for History that don&#039;t already have homes that are historic landmarks or are in consideration to be historic landmarks. This leaves us with homes that are mostly lower income type homes. It was made abundantly clear that if we were to pursue  the site where these homes are that we would be in for a political fight like we couldn&#039;t imagine by displacing these people.\r\n\r\n     It was also made abundantly clear that our museum effort needs to be 100% to succeed. If we try to go in 2 directions, the City is not going to take us serious. It was decided by the museum committtee members present at that time that we need to continue in the direction that was voted on, by pursuing the site at the former Oliver Factory. This is the direction that we will recommend to the HPOCA Board of Directors at the metting in Wentzville MO. \r\n   Two years from now, the possibilty of building near Copshaholm will still exist, but the opportunity to use the Forge#2 and Base Fit buildings will be gone forever, unless we do something now.\r\n\r\nHPOCA President Terry Allen is in South Bend now gathering more information about the possible site near the Center for History. He should have more info for us soon.','',0,'AQ==','ciel1wp2',1,0,'',17,0,0),(654,165,1,51,0,'152.163.188.39',1047779035,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Summer Show phone numbers','The phone numbers in the Magazine are incorrect for the Holiday Inn and the Ramoda Inn. The Holiday Inn number is 217-328-7900, the number for the Ramoda Inn is 217-328-4400. Sorry about the inconvience. Delbert','',0,'AQ==','3bufw5xy',1,0,'',51,0,0),(655,165,1,51,0,'152.163.189.71',1047779302,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Summer Show Phone Numbers','If you know someone without a computer who will be calling for reservations PLEASE pass the correct numbers to them. Thank You. Delbert','',0,'AQ==','15e5o697',1,0,'',51,0,0),(656,10,3,116,0,'63.173.221.43',1047780106,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','Chris,\r\nThanks for the update, looks like things are moving right along. I agree with you, we only have one chance at a museum at this site, if we don&#039;t get our ducks all in a row we&#039;re going to miss out. The city of South Bend will not wait on us, they have things to get done also. I hope the Directors can make this happen at the Winter meeting. Keep up the good work and thanks again for keeping us informed.\r\n                                   Todd Kline\r\nP.S.\r\n    Some other things for us to consider would be, contacting  an attorney to look over any agreements with the city. Also we should be looking for an architect to come up with design of what we would like this project to look like. This would help in finding a general contractor to work on this project.\n\n[Edited on 3-16-2003 by kline]','',0,'','20vz9ah2',1,0,'',116,0,0),(657,166,1,178,0,'152.163.188.39',1047781236,1,0,1,1,1,1,'danielscrkfarm','any information on Oliver square balers','[I am looking to purchase a square baler and need any information on parts availibility, years built, any strengths or weaknesses etc . One that would look good behind a 77.\r\n   Any information would will be helpful.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->\r\n[b:3bic0258]thanks[/b:3bic0258]\r\n[Edited on 3-16-2003 by danielscrkfarm]\r\n\r\n[Edited on 3-16-2003 by danielscrkfarm]\r\n\r\n[Edited on 3-16-2003 by danielscrkfarm]\n\n[Edited on 3-19-2003 by danielscrkfarm]','',0,'QA==','3bic0258',1,0,'',178,0,0),(658,85,1,179,0,'67.33.132.149',1047787771,1,0,1,1,1,0,'DaveWelker','1936 Oliver Hart-Parr Standard 70','I grew up on a farm in Van Wert County, Ohio.  We moved to the farm in 1945.  We started with an Oliver Hart-Parr RC 70.  Don&#039;t know any more about it.  In 1949 We traded it in on a new 77 and the Standard 70.  I was 12.  I learned to drive tractors on this tractor.  It was used on the farm until about 1970 and driven into the Grainery and shut off.\r\n\r\nIn 2001 I was living in Georgia and decided to restore this tractor.  I like a lot of farmboys had left the farm earned a degree in Electrical Engineering.  I hauled the tractor down here and started.\r\n\r\nIt is a 1936 Standard SN 300277 and as I understand is rare.  I have had everything apart except the transmission.  It is now running and all I have left to do is finish sheet metal and paint.  I still need to work on the brakes.\n\n[Edited on 3-16-2003 by DaveWelker]','',0,'','25n5qs0d',1,0,'',179,0,0),(659,154,3,47,0,'65.238.36.158',1047805906,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Oh, I know what your problem is! You have a closet Oliver collector as a mail carrier. You need to leave an application in your mailbox.','',0,'','1bdxg1l3',1,0,'',47,0,0),(660,161,1,47,0,'65.238.36.158',1047806267,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','magneto, or battery ignition?','',0,'','7zl83ais',1,0,'',47,0,0),(661,167,1,180,0,'206.15.153.176',1047815346,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Massachusetts','MFWD turning radius','I run a couple of Oliver 1850s, and really like them.  I am considering purchasing an 1850 MFWD tractor.  I have heard that these old four wheel drives take a lot of space to turn around.  How bad is it really?  Any comments will be appreciated!','',0,'','vz2oh74v',1,0,'',180,0,0),(662,164,1,67,0,'64.6.2.155',1047850049,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Jeff-the faces were definitely yellow.  There is some question, but I believe the original gauges were nickel plated.  I have been using the new reproduction gauges in stainless steel.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','2xiukoen',1,0,'',67,0,0),(664,169,1,156,0,'129.186.99.82',1047867096,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','need steering parts for 70','I need and good steering box, steering box brace and steering rod with worm gear.  All of mine are broken due to freezing after the steering box filled with water.I could also use a pto cover.','',0,'','1vt4owba',1,0,'',156,0,0),(665,170,1,181,0,'128.104.198.174',1047920132,1,0,1,0,1,0,'TJM','77 brakes','I want to remove the brake drums on my 77. I&#039;ve taken off the cover and the band.  The manual says to insert a 1&amp;quot; square piece of steel into the center of the drum and loosen the nut.  Question, before I start pulling on the wrench:  is the one on the right side of the tractor a left-hand thread?  Both right-hand.... or.....?\r\nAlso, once I get it off, are the oil seals relatively easy to replace?  Thanks very much for any info.','',0,'','1lwtfvqg',1,0,'',181,0,0),(666,85,1,141,0,'198.31.224.116',1047946767,1,0,1,1,1,0,'travman880','','1935 hart- parr 70\r\n(2)1944 70&#039;s\r\n1952 rc 66\r\n1949 rc 77\r\n(2) 1957 super 88&#039;s\r\n1960 880\r\n1962 990 gm\r\n1550 gas\r\n1650 diesel\r\n1655 diesel\r\n1800 diesel\r\n1850 diesel\r\n1855 cummins re-power\r\n(2) 1950 gm&#039;s\r\nOliver G-1355\r\n2150 mfd\r\n(2) 2255\r\nWhite 120\r\nwhite 6195','',0,'','3uoloi6p',1,0,'',141,0,0),(667,166,1,35,0,'65.82.175.233',1047959027,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','baler','If you going for the right year combination for the 77 and an Oliver baler, the following balers would look good:\r\nModel 18 1949-51 (wire tie heavy almost impossible to find and parts will be almost impossible to find)\r\nModel 100 1953-58 ( same problems as the 18\r\nModel 50 1954-57 (twine tie, lighter, maybe easier to find, parts still a problem)\r\nYou can see these balers in C.H. Wendel&#039;s book OLIVER HART-PARR.\r\nIf you are interested in baling large quantities of hay, I recommend getting a much newer baler produced after Oliver quit building balers.','',0,'','1plvzicy',1,0,'',35,0,0),(668,171,5,10611,0,'216.93.70.155',1047959157,1,0,1,1,1,0,'admin','getting a new password.','If you forget your old password and do the &#039;forgot password&#039; procedure, you will get an email that looks something like this.\r\n\r\nThis is an automatic email. Yourself, or someone has requested your password\r\nto be resent to you, your details are below.\r\n\r\n\r\nJohn Q Public\r\nGeZlIjjK\r\n\r\nThe information includes your user name and the line below that will be a new password generated at random. It is case sensitive, so the letters that are capitalized need to be and the ones that are lower case need to be that way or it will not work. Once you are logged in, you can edit your profile to change your password to whatever you would like.\r\nIf you still have trouble, you may have too high of a security setting in your internet options. Cookies need to be on for you to log on correctly. Since changing these setting depends on what software you are running, the best way to get instructions on how to change these setting is to click on help in your web browser and to search for help on &#039;cookies&#039;.','',0,'','1tnffu76',1,0,'',10611,0,0),(669,170,1,96,0,'216.201.29.84',1047993235,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Brakes','You are taxing my memory, but we used to reverse those bull pinions and so they have the same thread. If you have a hydraulic unit, drain the oil from the rear end first. If you get more than 5 gallon total out of transmission and final drives you need to replace the seals in your hydraulic pump. I think I have a cross over sheet for the bull pinion seal. There is also an O-ring inside the bull pinion.','',0,'','3jvja0yd',1,0,'',96,0,0),(670,172,5,40,0,'205.188.208.7',1047996876,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Club Bylaws','Having just joined HPOCA in 2002 I realize I am a &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; member and maybe this question has been answered before, if so somebody just tell me where to go to get the answer.\r\n\r\nI would suppose that the club has a set of bylaws.  When I joined I did not get a copy.  Now I realize that providing paper copies to approx 6000 members could get rather expensive and most of them would probably be filed in the &amp;quot;round file&amp;quot;.  However, I do think everyone should have access to a copy or the option of asking for a paper copy if they want to.  \r\n\r\nTherefore, I would like to suggest that they be posted on the website so that if anyone wants to look them up it would be easy to do.','',0,'','g6y38pbk',1,0,'',40,0,0),(671,158,3,12,0,'209.240.212.227',1048029545,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Membership renewal','I just recieved a membership renewal in the mail today. I renwed and paid my dues at the Louisville Farm Show. I&#039;m sure there is just a lag time in getting things processed but I don&#039;t want things to lapse. What is the best way to follow up and see when my membership has gone through? My membership expired Mar. 03 and I recieved the Mar/Apr magazine so I&#039;m in good shape until May. Thanks, WB.','',0,'','b4ez19ao',1,0,'',12,0,0),(672,172,5,67,0,'64.6.2.57',1048041803,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Bill--thank you for your input.  The bylaws were posted in the magazine a while back, when they were last voted on to be modified.  You have a good idea, and I will bring it up for discussion at the next board meeting, which will be on March 28, at the winter get together.  Thanks, Terry.','',0,'','27z69edy',1,0,'',67,0,0),(673,158,3,67,0,'64.6.2.57',1048042309,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','WB--I am sure that you are right in that there is a time lag for the renewal you filled out at the Louisville Farm Show to be forwarded to Texas and be processed.  If you want to check up on it, you can call the 800 number listed in the front of the magazine for an update.  The new membership cards are being printed now, and will be in the mail shortly.  Sorry for the delays, but hope you can understand a few bugs in switching over to a completely different system of handling the renewals.  Thanks for your patience, Terry.','',0,'','3aygzu53',1,0,'',67,0,0),(674,158,3,12,0,'209.240.212.227',1048080655,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','','Thanks Terry, the 800 number is what I would have called. I just didn&#039;t want to be a bug about it! I&#039;ve always renewed at Louisville and hadn&#039;t had a problem, but I&#039;d never recieved a renewal notice either. Thanks for the reponse and all your work, see you in St.Louie. WB.','',0,'','1l8z1knl',1,0,'',12,0,0),(675,172,5,40,0,'152.163.189.71',1048108707,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Terry:\r\n\r\nThanks for the reply.  \r\n\r\nWish I could go to the get together. <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'','3ng4lj4e',1,0,'',40,0,0),(676,173,1,183,0,'66.1.180.116',1048110895,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Reed(UT)','Oliver 64 grain drill','Hi everyone, I have a model 64 oliver grai drill, and I need one of the gears for inside the gear box, and one on the shaft. anyone know where I could begin to look?\r\nAny help would be appreciated.\r\n\r\nPS what paint shoul dI use to repaint this? A mfg color code would be great if you have it.\r\n\r\nThanks\r\nReed','',0,'','tsxi1gii',1,0,'',183,0,0),(677,174,1,184,0,'64.12.96.103',1048126812,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dukette89','Rebuilt water pumps','We rebuild waterpumps for all makes and models, including Oliver 70.  Send me an e-mail at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:RichCini@aol.com\">RichCini@aol.com</a><!-- e --> or <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:Dukette89@aol.com\">Dukette89@aol.com</a><!-- e --> to receive a quote.  We ship anywhere in the contintental U.S.\r\n\r\nRich Cini\r\nRC Remanufacturing\r\nBox 483\r\nWampum, PA  16157','',0,'','1czdzbkt',1,0,'',184,0,0),(678,154,3,7,0,'205.188.209.71',1048131130,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','When it rains','Got home tonight and found a copy of the current HPOCA magazine. Yep, I got 2!!! Checked the labels, the first one was from my renewed membership 1/04. The one today was from my expired membership 1/03. Forgot to check the date of my original post. 03/06/03 13 days between deliveries. John:D','',0,'','2funpi7h',1,0,'',7,0,0),(679,154,3,51,0,'205.188.209.71',1048211544,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Magazine','I got my second copy about a week ago. I wonder how many members will get a second copy. Delbert','',0,'','10w4mzd0',1,0,'',51,0,0),(680,154,3,5,0,'216.166.192.33',1048215861,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Second copy','To everyone who recieves a second copy of the HPOCA magazine, pass it along to a tractor loving NON-member to enjoy. Leave the outside cover on as it has a membership aplication form so they ,too, can join our group. Just a thought. FRANK DODSON, did you ever get your copy?? oleblu','',0,'','327dmi7h',1,0,'',5,0,0),(681,175,1,185,0,'63.71.120.26',1048265804,1,0,1,1,1,0,'red67114','ROPS for 550','Has anyone seen ROPS (rollbars) that were specifically designed for a 550 or 2-44 Industrial. Do you know where I could find one?;)','',0,'','hkzjygkd',1,0,'',185,0,0),(682,154,3,35,0,'67.34.171.116',1048382471,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','magazine','Sherry was good enough to send me a copy. I received it within two days. The next day I received my issue. I am on a rural route and maybe the mailman is enjoying the magazine.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2dl2k25f',1,0,'',35,0,0),(683,169,1,121,0,'66.222.85.6',1048385852,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SwenNilsson','','I may be able to help, if you are still looking.  My e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:genscan@tds.net\">genscan@tds.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','oxekylaq',1,0,'',121,0,0),(684,176,3,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1048386596,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Winter Get-Together','What&#039;s on the schedule for the get-together next weekend? Fun auction Friday night? Membership meeting Sat.? Wife was just asking me what was going on. Thanks, WB.','',0,'','1i1n98e3',1,0,'',12,0,0),(685,175,1,35,0,'67.34.171.116',1048389331,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','ROPS','I know of one company that produces ROPS for older tractors. The company is:\r\nSaf-T-Cab Inc.\r\n3241 South Parkway Dr.\r\nP.O. Box 2587\r\nFresno, CA 93745\r\n559-268-5541\r\nYou will probably not like the price, retro 4 post for 550 $1921, SAE 2 post $1355.\r\nI assume the high price has a lot to do with liability.\r\nI don&#039;t ever recall seeing a ROPS on an agricultural 550 but some of the 550 backhoe-loaders had over head protection.\r\nThere are many good machinists that can fabricate a ROPS much cheaper however most ag safety engineers frown on this practice.<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'','22u91ds4',1,0,'',35,0,0),(686,177,1,186,0,'66.103.234.136',1048397062,1,0,1,1,1,0,'BigDaddyCMU','Oliver 550 For Sale','1958 Oliver 550 for sale, in good condition.  Includes 90&amp;quot; rear finish mower and 7ft. rear blade, both in good condition.  $4200 obo for all.','',0,'','juw886td',1,0,'',186,0,0),(687,165,1,7,0,'152.163.189.71',1048436204,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Clearing up some confusion','Be sure to heed Delbert&#039;s advice. In addition you MUST call the Holiday Inn direct. If you call the 800 number they will tell you that the hotel is sold out. When you call direct they will also tell you that the hotel is sold out, you must INSIST that  you are with the HARTPARR OLIVER group and want a room from the block that is reserved. In addition there are 3 other hotels within one block, Ramada Inn, Super 8  (217)384-8000 and Sleep Inn (217)367-6000. In addition the hotels on the east side of Urbana with easy access to the Holiday Inn and Penfield are: Park Inn (217)344-8000. Motel 6 (217)344-1085. Eastland Suites (217)367-8331. If I can help  further let me know.','',0,'','qp6f7r8p',1,0,'',7,0,0),(688,178,1,187,0,'66.43.249.97',1048437491,1,0,1,1,1,0,'s104x490','Paint on a 70','I am restoring a 1939 Oliver 70 Row Crop and was wondering if anyone knew of a place that I could find a diagram of how it is supose to be painted....Like what color the carb and fan are supose to be?  I would like it to be the same way as it was from the factory because I plan on taking it to state fair this summer.  Thank you','',0,'','5i12qrfb',1,0,'',187,0,0),(689,10,3,40,0,'152.163.189.67',1048538722,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','Musuem in South Bend','Did anybody hear anymore about the alternate sight for the musuem?','',0,'','1ono7vut',1,0,'',40,0,0),(690,10,3,67,0,'64.6.2.122',1048551298,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I spent a 3 days in South Bend just over a week ago, and here is the latest I have found out.  There is a possiblilty of building a museum partially on the Center for History grounds (Copshaholm Site).  It appears that there would be enough room there for a building with a footprint of 15000-17000 square feet.  It would make sense in that location to look at a 2 story building, which would give us a total area of 30,000-34,000 square feet.  This would be more than enough room for us to start with, and there is property adjacent to the site that could possibly be available later for expansion.  If we were to go this route, there would be no demolition of buildings, or relocating of residents.  The site would require the city to close about 150 ft of an existing street, which has no houses, and dead ends at the Center for History.  Preliminary discussions with the city indicate that this should not be a problem.  This would put us next to the parking lot of the Center for History.  The site that the Studebaker group is looking at as a possible site for their new building would be directly on the other side of the Center for History.  This would also allow for the possibility of sharing management with the Center for History, contracting some services from them, or some combination of both, if we would wish to pursue this.  We all realize that we are not museum experts, and would have to look a long way to find people with the abilities and experience that they already have.  They have expressed an interest in pursuing this with us, if we wish.  It is my opinion that this site would provide us with a better location and better drawing ability by being able to combine efforts with the Center for History.  If the Studebaker group would decide to also locate there, that could only help us as well.  This would also provide us with a fresh, new building, in which we could pick our own layout, and be able to better afford to operate and maintain.  At this point, this is only my personal opinion, which will be presented to the board and to the membership at the meeting this weekend.  I think we have all agreed that we wish to pursue a museum, as the recent vote indicated.  We only had one option on the table for us to look at when the ballots were prepared, and I think we have fully pursued this, as we should.  It is also our job as board of directors to pursue any and all other possibilities before making any decisions, and then presenting them to the membership.  It is my opinion that we have explored all options known at this time, and no matter how nostalgic and desireable it looks on the surface, that the old plant buildings are just not financially feasable.  I will reccomend to the board to continue to pursue the site at the Center for History at the meeting this weekend.  Will know more at that time, as majority will rule on how to proceed.  Maybe we could use some of the bricks from the old plant as a front for a new building, and give it the appearance of the old buildings?  Many options still open.  I would be glad to hear your thoughts and comments.  Please let me know what you think.  Terry.','',0,'','36lffzdt',1,0,'',67,0,0),(691,10,3,40,0,'64.12.96.137',1048608277,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Terry:\r\n\r\nWhy are they moving the Studebaker Musuem?  Is the city of South Bend going to develop the Studebaker factory site like they are doing to the plow works?\r\n\r\nWe did not go in, but on our way to the plow works we drove by the current Studebaker Musuem. The building it is in appeared to be in very good shape.  Do you know how many visitors they get a year?\r\n\r\nIf the musuem was to be built at the Center for History would HPOCA have to buy the land or does it belong to the Center?  Is there any timeline we would have to work against, e.g. a musuem would have to be built within the next 2 years, etc.\r\n\r\nThanks for any information.','',0,'','1xg3d8x4',1,0,'',40,0,0),(692,179,1,160,0,'64.186.198.206',1048636455,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SexyFarmerRob','Biggest Oliver Model','What its the biggest tractor model oliver produced? Is it the 2655? im not sure','',0,'','78xy21tz',1,0,'',160,0,0),(693,10,3,67,0,'64.6.2.113',1048638045,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','As far as I know, the Studebaker museum is being moved because the city either owns or is purchasing the property, and they have other plans for the site, along with the idea that the Studebaker museum is in need of more space.  The city also owns around 1/2 of the collection in the museum.  The old Studebaker factory buildings are mostly 4 story buildings, which are of no interest to modern manufacturing businesses.  They will probably be torn down, but that will be expensive.  As far as the Center for History site, there are 3 parcels, with the ones on both sides being owned by the Center for History, and the middle parcel being a dead end city street, which could be closed.  At this point, we are not far enough along to be able to establish any deadlines, only that we have an interest, and it would appear that the people at the Center for History are very willing to try and work with us.  The details of using that property would have to be worked out, but it is pretty clear that we do share a common interest, and that is what would make this easier to do. \r\nWill update as I know more, Terry.','',0,'','19w03mpe',1,0,'',67,0,0),(694,179,1,185,0,'63.71.120.26',1048713254,1,0,1,1,1,0,'red67114','','The biggest model they sold was the 2655, but it was actually a M-M A4T1600 painted green. The biggest tractor they made was a 2255 built with a CAT engine.','',0,'','125137e2',1,0,'',185,0,0),(695,85,1,98,0,'209.51.206.107',1048812307,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','A little of everything','We farmed with Olivers when I was a kid . But I collect what ever is cheep . ( all thougt I will take a Oliver first). My collection is all colors:\r\n Oliver 550\r\n Oliver 77D\r\n Cletrac BGS-H\r\n Ford 9N\r\n Allis C\r\n Deere styled A\r\n Deere styled B\r\n Farmall M\r\n Farmall H\r\n Cub Cadet 71','',0,'','2awgxh80',1,0,'',98,0,0),(696,85,1,189,0,'140.186.54.238',1049047793,1,0,1,1,1,0,'doctorsign','Question !!!!!!','[quote:qp0toi1s][i:qp0toi1s]Originally posted by 995Lugmatic[/i:qp0toi1s]\nI am always interested to know what everyone else has.  I will start off. \n1850 G WF\n1650 D WF\n995 GM \n950 D\n880 D RC\n770 D RC\n(3) 770 G RC\n(2) SUPER 99GMs\nSUPER 88 IND G\nOLD STYLE 88 IND\n(3) 88 G RC\n(2) 77 G RC\n77 D RC\n77 D STD\n(5) 70 RC\n70 STD\nThere may be more that I dont remember/know about, because dad picks them up all the time.\nI am hoping to add an OC-6 soon, and I really want a 2255 bad.\nI want everybody to reply, cmon, its fun. [/quote:qp0toi1s]','',0,'oA==','qp0toi1s',1,0,'',189,0,0),(697,85,1,189,0,'140.186.54.238',1049048370,1,0,1,1,1,0,'doctorsign','Question !!!!!!!!','I have what I think is a 1966 Oliver diesel track machine loader, - How do I go about finding any info on this machine and what model it might be   TIA. I will send a pic attachment if I can.','',0,'oA==','1n2bo1vf',1,0,'',189,0,0),(698,180,1,189,0,'140.186.54.238',1049049217,1,0,1,1,1,0,'doctorsign','Machine / Model  ID. Help !','I have,what I believe is a 1966 Oliver, 4 cylinder diesel, track machine loader w/bucket, is there any way that I can verify what year and/or model this particular unit is ? Also any place that I can look for engine parts once I find the year and model.  TIA','',0,'oA==','268gcnpl',1,0,'',189,0,0),(699,180,1,35,0,'67.34.168.165',1049077416,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Crawler','The crawler can&#039;t be a 1966 model since all Oliver crawler production halted prior to 66. There may have been a few manufactured in 65. If it is small then it could possibly be an OC 46 but these tractors had a 3 cylinder Hercules engine beginning in 1957. The serial no. is located on the right side of bell housing. It is possible it could be an OC12(ser# located front center instrument panel), OC 9 or 96( ser# right side of instrument panel) Landis Zimmerman is an expert on Oliver crawlers and can be reached at 717-738-2573.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'oA==','1s39stmw',1,0,'',35,0,0),(700,181,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1049151417,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','I finally did it!','I finally have my Oliver.   I grew up driving my grandfathers RC70 and Dad&#039;s 77 and 88&#039;s.  I finally have one of my own. (Other than the White 2-70) that I purchased  new in 1977.\r\nSaturday I bought a 1938 Oliver Row Crop 70&amp;gt;  The same year as Grandpa&#039;s!   it is in good condition... not a fancy restore job... but good.     \r\nI will need to repaint the wheels.  whoever did the painting painted them yellow like the grill.  Tomorrow the dryrotted tires will be replaced.  I couldn&#039;t find an Oliiver plow for it locally so I made do with a Case 2-14 trip-rope plow.   The Oliver plow will have to be in the future.\r\nyou can see pictures of the O70 here.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/</a><!-- m -->','',0,'oA==','cfizwpal',1,0,'',188,0,0),(701,181,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1049154850,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Congrats, \r\nLooks like it is in good shape.  Have fun with it.','',0,'oA==','aoof91st',1,0,'',105,0,0),(702,181,1,142,0,'216.166.192.14',1049171355,1,0,1,1,1,0,'98dba','','I believe on your tractor that arould the yellow &amp;quot;70&amp;quot; on the front it is supposed to be red and continue down both sides in a stripe until almost the end of the side pannels.  Since you had said that you&#039;d need to repaint the wheels red I thought I&#039;d just point this out.  Nonetheless, you have a fine looking tractor and congrats again on your first!','',0,'oA==','3uph5hjf',1,0,'',142,0,0),(703,181,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1049238444,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','You are right about the red.   My grandfathers 1938 70 had the stripe.\n\n[Edited on 4-1-2003 by km]','',0,'','1fye8j2p',1,0,'',188,0,0),(704,181,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1049411197,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','well, I now have the new tires to replace the rotted ones.  Also picked up the red paint for the wheells today.   hope to have it ready for summer shows.  we plan to have it at the National Threshers reunion with my Dad&#039;s 77 and my brother&#039;s Super 88.','',0,'','2sgizpwj',1,0,'',188,0,0),(705,176,3,40,0,'152.163.189.135',1049506173,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Anybody care to report on the winter meeting for those of us that could not be there?:(','',0,'','1k0to3bx',1,0,'',40,0,0),(706,182,3,67,0,'64.6.2.52',1049582197,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','Updates on Winter Get Together meetings','Hi everybody.  Just a few highlights of items discussed at the winter meeting, for your info.  It was decided after much discussion, and with regrets, that we will not continue to pursue building a museum on the old plant site in South Bend.  We are all a bit disappointed, but after looking over all of the facts, it appears to be just too expensive to maintain, along with an out of the way location.  We are actively pursuing other options in South Bend, and have 2 other options at present, with possibilities of at least 1 more.  Will let you know more as we are able to learn more.  \r\nWe are proceeding with building 1/16 scale toys models of Hart Parr #3, to fund the preservation project.  We hope to have prototypes available for view at the summer show, and be able to take orders by then.  \r\nWe also decided to proceed with making a show book of tractors on display at the summer show.  The IH club did a nice job at Penfield last year, and we plan to use the same people to work with us this year.  We agreed to post the club bylaws on the web site.  Hopefully this will be of help to the membership.  Upcoming shows--2004-- winter show, Feb 26-28, Lancaster, PA. \r\nsummer show Aug 27-29, Madison SD\r\n2005--winter show, possibly Moline, IL-details in progress, summer show Aug 19-21, Baraboo, WI.  2006--winter show in Central FL, summer show in Dover, OH.  Dates will be forthcoming.  Just a few highlights, will be glad to answer any questions.  Terry.','',0,'','4uu3jql8',1,0,'',67,0,0),(707,183,1,165,0,'206.105.8.244',1049663712,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tonythetiger','wanted ms-tsx-394 carburetor','','',0,'0','2og0dsni',1,0,'',165,0,0),(708,184,1,14,0,'68.97.168.124',1049679135,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','Rosedale, OK Auction','A few prices from yesterday&#039;s auction, the sale bill was in the HPOCA mag.\r\n&#039;73 1955 w/cab, air and loader $9,000\r\n&#039;71 1955 w/cab, air loader but no bucket $8,500\r\n&#039;74 1755 w/cab, air  $4,750\r\n&#039;55 Super 55 Diesel  $3,700\r\n&#039;54 88 G Row crop  $1,800\r\n&#039;45 Oliver Cletrac HG  $6,100\r\n&#039;58 880  $2,100\r\n&#039;37 70 Standard  $4,200\r\n&#039;59 880  $1,000\r\n&#039;50 77 Row crop  $2,400\r\n&#039;50 66 Row crop w/belly mower  $3,500\r\n\r\nAll had been shedded and were in nice shape.','',0,'','2l7t9psq',1,0,'',14,0,0),(709,184,1,5,0,'216.166.193.5',1049684973,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Auction','Just saw your post about the auction in OK. Why was the &#039;59 880 so cheap? Just  wondering. oleblu','',0,'','1gm85xue',1,0,'',5,0,0),(710,184,1,14,0,'68.97.168.124',1049715495,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwm','880','Not sure why the &#039;59 880 went so cheap unless the locals knew something bad about it.  The other 880 was said to have dyno&#039;d at 70 HP with a &#039;Denny&#039; carb and was talked up.  This one was not, but like the others looked like it was well maintained.','',0,'','27a4dt67',1,0,'',14,0,0),(711,185,1,191,0,'198.77.47.101',1049726821,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sparky','how much is a DDH worth?','Can anyone tell me what a DDH is worth.  it no longer has the Hercules engine in it although the current owner does have it, but he said that it has a cracked block.  The machine supposedly runs with a 300-6cylinder ford transplant.  I was not able to hear it run.  The guy said that he believes that there is dirt or something in the gas and that it needs tuned up.  Undercarriage looks to be in fair conditon, but I am uncertain of the condition of the transmission.  I always wanted to take on a crawler as a project as well as have to use, but can not afford to end up with a total basket case.  What do you think?','',0,'','3d1joiq3',1,0,'',191,0,0),(712,182,3,12,0,'209.240.212.6',1049727644,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Let me add','I enjoyed the discussions about the Old Number 3 and the toys. I&#039;d like to see more seminars about the old tractors and history of the company. I agree with the Sat. nite speaker that the 4 digit series is becoming more collectable and small and hobby farmers are finding them as good useable tractors. I guess I&#039;m more familar with them and that is what I farm with still. I also thought the Successful Farming &amp;quot;Book of Farming World Records&amp;quot; was a neat idea. I&#039;ve already got one that the Olivers are sure to attain and hold. That would be the most Cylinders running at one time! 6 cyls per tractor wouldn&#039;t take long to add up, We&#039;d sure have a huge advantage over the &amp;quot;other green&amp;quot;. As usaual Kurt Auman put on an enjoyable auction Sat. night. Sorry to ramble, WB.','',0,'','gw7zpis7',1,0,'',12,0,0),(713,181,1,33,0,'165.121.129.15',1049766137,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Eric Severance','','Looks like a keeper !! I have one just like it, same year serial 222213 on 36&amp;quot; Riverside knobbies. Mine does not look as good as yours though. Enjoy !!','',0,'','3qvmi8zu',1,0,'',33,0,0),(714,181,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1049769994,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','mine is SN 222765   those tires  pictured have been replaced.  they were so dry rotted that you could stick a hand through them.  the band in the center of the grill and the front wheels have now been repainted.   still have the rear wheels to paint.I will be taking it, along with my Dad&#039;s 1952 77RC adn my brothers Super 88 Diesel to the National threshers Reunion.  so maybe some of you will see it there.  Penfield is possible in July. August we plan to have it at the northeast Indiana Steam and Gas show.','',0,'','2b1a7bq4',1,0,'',188,0,0),(715,182,3,40,0,'64.12.96.166',1049847459,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bill Brandt','','Terry &amp;amp; Wrenchbender:\r\n\r\nThanks for the info on the meeting.  How many were in attendance?  I know Sherry will probably cover everything in the magazine, but I&#039;m just interested in how big a crowd go to the meetings.\r\n\r\nIs number 3 running and moving under its own power yet?','',0,'','15zru62g',1,0,'',40,0,0),(716,181,1,192,0,'152.163.188.3',1049937725,1,0,1,1,1,0,'garyb1943','','have number 223211 it is parts going to get at it someday appears your fenders        maybe from a newer tractor','',0,'','2gc5ac31',1,0,'',192,0,0),(717,182,3,67,0,'64.6.2.102',1049943542,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I believe that there were around 300 for the banquet at the get together.  Might be a few less than normal, but timing was later than ususal also.  Sorry you couldn&#039;t be with us, as we had a great time.  As for Hart Parr # 3, I understand that it has been running, but is currently having the governor rebuilt to make it run properly.  Seems to be progressing well.  Terry.','',0,'','2m2vqk7d',1,0,'',67,0,0),(718,186,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1050003226,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','20 tractor auction.','Since this aucton has several Hart Parr and Oliver tractors I thought someone may be interested.\r\nthe George Baumeister Auction is at Burr Oak, MI.  Saturday April 19,2003.\r\nIncluded in the sale are a Oliver 70 standard,  Oliver 80 RCOliver 66 Industrial, Oliver Lawn Tractor,  1928 Hart Parr and 1935 Hart Parr.   I am not connected with the seller or auctioneers.\r\nI was told by the auctioneer that all these tractors run.\r\nthe auction website is  <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.hahnrealtyandauction.com/Auctions/SaleBills/4-19.htm\">http://www.hahnrealtyandauction.com/Auc ... s/4-19.htm</a><!-- m -->\r\nbut when I checked a few minutes ago the sale bill would not load.\n\n[Edited on 4-11-2003 by km]','',0,'','1devu2ns',1,0,'',188,0,0),(719,186,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1050026774,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','salebill','here are some pictures of the salebill.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/</a><!-- m -->\n\n[Edited on 4-11-2003 by km]','',0,'','3ls0be2x',1,0,'',188,0,0),(720,186,1,35,0,'67.34.171.252',1050027084,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','auction','I couldn&#039;t get it to load either. Do you know the model of the lawn tractor? Are there any crawler tractors?','',0,'','232zh8y6',1,0,'',35,0,0),(721,186,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1050027537,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','lawn tractor is #125... it is restored.  no oliver crawlers.','',0,'','1btae9ul',1,0,'',188,0,0),(722,186,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1050027606,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','they think the lawn tractor is a 1972 model','',0,'','3tvomt35',1,0,'',188,0,0),(723,146,1,7,0,'205.188.209.41',1050029502,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','License Plates and Show tractors','As of the I&amp;amp;I club meeting tonight there are 14 show tractors left available to be purchased. There is a good supply of license plates that will be available the first part of May. If you need more info please feel free to email me. John','',0,'','3w4bh58n',1,0,'',7,0,0),(724,187,1,195,0,'64.72.59.219',1050032347,1,0,1,1,1,0,'rriesmeyer','Oliver Thrashing Machine','Where can I find information on Oliver Thrashing Machines?  I purchased a small  machine on rubber tires but can not find any information about its age or model.','',0,'','17o9prbd',1,0,'',195,0,0),(725,187,1,47,0,'67.241.135.51',1050102992,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Send me the serial number.','',0,'','1vzlshyl',1,0,'',47,0,0),(726,185,1,47,0,'67.241.135.51',1050103240,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','The tractor weighs 12,000 lbs., I figure a tractor in that condition shouldn&#039;t bring any more that the scrap price for short iron.','',0,'','2mt2gu8w',1,0,'',47,0,0),(727,187,1,96,0,'216.201.29.167',1050111800,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Red River Special Threshing Machine','If you can not find the serial number measure the width of the threshing cylinder and then we can determine what size machine you have and then the years they wer manufactured.','',0,'','233sygbt',1,0,'',96,0,0),(728,188,1,121,0,'66.222.85.206',1050118400,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SwenNilsson','Oliver 70 wheels','I am having a devil of a time getting the rear wheels off the axle of an Oliver 70.  I have used lots of heat and a fairly large gear puller with no success.  Any tricks anyone knows to get these loose?','',0,'','1n3mirwj',1,0,'',121,0,0),(729,118,2,196,0,'216.49.240.132',1050194002,1,0,1,1,1,0,'fka90','What is A Harr Parr Row Crop Worth','Yes I was Wondering What A Row Crop Is Worth And How Do I Find Out Any Help Would Be Appreciated.\r\n\r\nThak You','',0,'','ppqbtmwx',1,0,'',196,0,0),(730,188,1,47,0,'67.241.135.248',1050245667,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Your first mistake was putting heat on that flange. Never use heat on something like that unless it is a last ditch effort, and you don&#039;t want to save the part. What you did by heating was to set up an oxidation process which further seized the flange to the axle shaft. Now, what you can try, and it might work, is, get some good penetrating oil, like Gibbs, or Blaster. Spray as much of it as you can get into the spline, every day for a couple of weeks, each time you do this smack the flange a few times with a brass hammer, to set up a vibration. This helps the oil get into the spline. get some 8 or 10 inch channel channel iron, cut one piece where it will fit snuggly around the axle, with the axle centered on the channel, then cut a piece of steel to bolt to the channel, it must go across the slot you cut in the channel, and take up the slack against the axle. Get 4 lengths of 3/4&amp;quot; all thread, and nuts. In the piece of channel you just worked on, drill 4 3/4&amp;quot; holes, 2 on each end. Make sure they are equally spaced, and so that the all thread will be as close to the flange as possible. Take another piece of channel and drill 4, 3/4&amp;quot; holes that coorespond to the other 4 you drilled. Get a big bottle jack, 20 tons or larger. Screw a nut on each piece of all thread, then put the all thread thru each hole on the first channel you made, put a nut on the back, &amp;amp; tighten the first nuts that you put on the all thread. Put a nut on the other end of each all thread, put the other piece of channel on the all thread, put nuts on the end behind this channel. Make sure the channels are equally spaced apart, using the all thread as an adjustment, measure at each all thread, leaving enough room between the axle shaft, and the outboard channel to get the bottle jack into. Put the ram on the jack against the axle shaft, the base against outboard channel, and the pump on the jack down beneath the jack so it gets fluid. Put on your hard hat, safety glasses, steel toes, etc. and pump the jack, pushing against the axle, pulling against the flange. If it doesn&#039;t move, spray some more penetrating oil, smack it with a brass hammer, and leave it with pressure on it. Keep doing this every day or so until it breaks loose.','',0,'','2gpqm5v9',1,0,'',47,0,0),(731,182,3,47,0,'67.241.135.248',1050247922,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Terry,\r\nIt is good to hear from you! I think Ed Heisner and his members from the Hartland chapter did a wonderful job at this years Winter Get Together! Those members who couldn&#039;t attend just missed out on a great event, the rest of us had a wonderful time!!! As always our friend Doug Strawser made a fantastic presentation, we really do need to try to get Doug&#039;s presentations on video, they are accurate and informative. I enjoyed working at our HPOCA booth though I regret my time was limited. I strongly suggest to our members any extra time they may have can be well invested by helping out at our booth. There is no place else that so many members can be met is such a short time. I wish I had more time, I didn&#039;t get to work any chapter booths where I am a member of. I would had liked to do that, but I guess I should take care of my HPOCA obligations first. I am looking forward to our Summer Show in Penfield, IL, Hosted by your home chapter, Midwest Oliver Collectors, and once again Ed Heisners chapter, Hartland Oliver Collecters. This promises to be a great show!! Then we will go to Lancaster, PA, Madison, SD, and as I understand Florida. I am waiting for the Florida Winter Get Together, I doubt there will be snow there!! I have a feeling that will be more like a Winter show than Get Together. It will be interesting!!! See ya at Penfield!!!','',0,'','112oqqbm',1,0,'',47,0,0),(732,189,1,197,0,'209.195.140.85',1050353378,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','Oliver 995 Pan','My dad,s friend just bought a Oliver 995 pan and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get parts for it. What I am looking for is a hood and grille ( A regular old 995 hood and grille will work.) Thanks \r\n\r\n\n\n[Edited on 4-18-2003 by Oliver OC 4 Me]','',0,'','15fbpwlg',1,0,'',197,0,0),(734,191,1,98,0,'209.51.206.61',1050365952,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','550 tie rod end','I&#039;m looking for a tie rod end for my 550 Oliver . Where can I find new ones also who has the best price on a seat bushing ES1854 .I need the clamps from the hood to muffler # E448A . Thanks Mike:D','',0,'','13wbcc1k',1,0,'',98,0,0),(735,192,1,82,0,'216.106.56.66',1050378569,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','710 Baler','My Dad has a model 710 baler that he bought new in 1976 or 1977.  He purchased this baler from Schwartz Implement in Palmyra, MO.  When he bought this baler, the dealer told him it was the very last Oliver baler made.  He went on to say that it was put together out of parts from the warehouse.  The serial number is 97286EP.  I was just wondering if there are any numbers out there that are higher than this.  The colors on this baler are green and white.  Thank you','',0,'','3e5gmadw',1,0,'',82,0,0),(736,191,1,35,0,'67.32.85.180',1050378797,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','550','Try Rick Stair at 330-264-9720 (<!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.ricksagriparts.com\">www.ricksagriparts.com</a><!-- w -->) or Korves Oliver 618-939-6681 (<!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.korvesoliver.com\">www.korvesoliver.com</a><!-- w -->) or Maibach 800-939-4192 ask for Tom.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','17vo9bx6',1,0,'',35,0,0),(737,189,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1050415251,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Man, I have been looking for one of those for a long time!  Good find.  The hood, cowl, and grille are the same for 950, 990, and 995.  That should help you widen your search a bit.  I really dont know where to get them though.  I have got two sets, but they happen to be on tractors!  Good Luck.','',0,'','3ewygiin',1,0,'',105,0,0),(738,192,1,26,0,'216.43.144.52',1050432537,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','710 baler','My records show the last 710 baler to be built was serial No. 97311EP.  It also shows that it&#039;s a 1972 model.  According to these records 1972 was the last year that Oliver balers were built.','',0,'','3f04tswk',1,0,'',26,0,0),(739,132,5,189,0,'140.186.55.185',1050456595,1,0,1,1,1,0,'doctorsign','','That sounds like a great idea to me !','',0,'','1agfsxoj',1,0,'',189,0,0),(740,192,1,82,0,'216.106.56.12',1050461687,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','710 Baler','My Dad also said that the dealer told him that it had sat in his warehouse for several years.  Evidently it isn&#039;t the last one made then.  Thank you.','',0,'','4moamf9l',1,0,'',82,0,0),(741,192,1,35,0,'67.32.85.180',1050540748,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 710 baler','If anyone is interested Massey Equipment is advertising an Oliver 710 baler. Asking price is $1000.00. I haven&#039;t seen it. The baler is in Fayetteville TN phone 931-438-7996.','',0,'','y6im4dlc',1,0,'',35,0,0),(742,189,1,197,0,'209.195.140.117',1050671224,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','','Keep me posted if u find me some parts Thankz:)','',0,'','2kcfgysp',1,0,'',197,0,0),(743,85,1,197,0,'209.195.140.117',1050671633,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','','All I have right now is a Oliver OC 4 thats all stock even the paint! I am looking for a Oliver OC 3, a Oliver OC 18 and a 990 or 995 Oliver pan.','',0,'','3sd90jek',1,0,'',197,0,0),(744,193,1,198,0,'65.166.119.178',1050683354,1,0,1,1,1,0,'mzulkoski','Film taken at Iowa plowing contest','I&#039;m not a collector (yet), but Olivers are dear to my heart.  I grew up on a farm in central Nebraska and my dad owned a Super 66 and a Super 88, both of which ran circles around every other tractor in the neighborhood.\r\n\r\nA few years ago I had the opportunity to talk to a former Olver dealer from Iowa.  He told me the following story.\r\n\r\nAt a plowing contest in Iowa, Oliver was demonstrating it&#039;s new line of FWD tractors.  The plowing contest started and a John Deere became stuck in the gumbo.  A FWD Oliver was right behind him so the operator turned out (leaving his plow in the ground) and cut in front of the JD.  After hitching a chain to the JD, the FWD Oliver proceeded to pull the JD out, with BOTH the Oliver and JD plows still in the ground.\r\n\r\nThe head of national sales for Oliver was present and ran to his car to grab his 8mm movie camera.  He turned it on and in his excitement immediately tripped, all the while with the camera running.  He got some great film of the Oliver pulling the JD which was shown for years at Oliver dealer meetings, complete with the view of the camera hitting the ground.\r\n\r\nWould anyone know anything about this film?\r\n\r\nMike','',0,'','1dd98ntg',1,0,'',198,0,0),(745,85,1,122,0,'63.148.118.50',1050696260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Rockin-B','','1945  60 Standard                                    \r\n1951  OC3\r\n1957  Super 77 G\r\n1962  550 D\r\n1968  1550 G\r\n1960  550 D  Just bought it today 4/19/03\n\n[Edited on 4-20-2003 by Rockin-B]','',0,'','vduk4aji',1,0,'',122,0,0),(746,194,1,82,0,'216.106.56.59',1050773535,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','bullet tail lights','I was just wondering when did Oliver start putting the little bullet shaped tail lights on their tractors.  Did it start when the fleetlines came out or was it later on.  Thank you','',0,'','8rdupscs',1,0,'',82,0,0),(747,85,1,82,0,'216.106.56.59',1050774118,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','','My Dad and I have accumulated several tractors over the years.  Some run, some don&#039;t.\r\n\r\n1930 Oliver Hart-Parr Row crop\r\n1934 18-27\r\n1942 Oliver 70 RC\r\n1944 Oliver 70 RC\r\n1947 Oliver 60 RC\r\n1948 Old Style 88 RC\r\n1951 Oliver 66 RC\r\n1954 Oliver Super 77 RC\r\n1958 Oliver 880 RC\r\n1963 Oliver 1800-C w/f\r\n1940 ? Cletrac CG\r\n1944 ? Cletrac HG\r\n1954 Oliver OC-3 w/dozer\r\n1934 Allis-Chalmers WC\r\n1937 JD A\r\n1939 JD A\r\n1940 JD A\r\n1934 F-12\r\n1936 F-12\r\n1939 F-14\r\n1952 Massey Harris 44 RC','',0,'','ilbailsr',1,0,'',82,0,0),(748,194,1,67,0,'64.6.2.54',1050786767,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I had this same question come up recently as I was working on an old style 88. I checked with Mark Korves, and I believe that he told me the bullet tail lights came out in mid 1951.  Terry.','',0,'','i6jxzpdh',1,0,'',67,0,0),(749,193,1,67,0,'64.6.2.54',1050786847,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','I have heard the story of this film, basically the same story that you have here.  I have not had the chance to see the film, but the story is the same.','',0,'','2yvlkilh',1,0,'',67,0,0),(750,194,1,82,0,'216.106.56.73',1050793215,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','','Thanks for the information.  I am also working on an old style 88 and wondering what was correct.','',0,'','14f4p02p',1,0,'',82,0,0),(751,186,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1050802335,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','well, back from the auction with a bunch of note and pictures.  these tractors were in excellent condition.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/oliver12-24.jpg\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Olive ... r12-24.jpg</a><!-- m -->\r\nHP 12-24 sold for $6250.  \r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/oliver28-44.jpg\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Olive ... r28-44.jpg</a><!-- m -->\r\nHP28-40 sold for $2100.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/oliver80-73.jpg\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Olive ... r80-73.jpg</a><!-- m -->\r\nthis super nice 80 Row Crop sold for $6000\r\n1948 88RC sold for $2100\r\n1944 70 Standard $2500\r\n66 Industrial with loader $3000\r\n1972 Oliver 125 lawn tractor   $2500\r\na stuck 77Rc for $350\r\nyou can see more pictures here.\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/auction/</a><!-- m -->\r\nand if anyone wonders why the Allis Chalmers B is shown.  I bought that for my wife, since she grew up with AC tractors. It will be at home with the WD45 her dad had that we are now restoring.','',0,'','2id5sp6d',1,0,'',188,0,0),(752,195,1,160,0,'64.186.198.20',1050948248,1,0,1,1,1,0,'SexyFarmerRob','What would be the best????','[color=Green:338dtnu9]I want to buy a Oliver to start circuit pulling with. I want somthing that can beat my uncle&#039;s International 1066 that has 600ci and 1000+hp. he pulls 10,000lb up to 18,000 lbs. What model should i get to have work done on it to compete with him?   any suggestions?[/color:338dtnu9]','',0,'Ag==','338dtnu9',1,0,'',160,0,0),(753,195,1,35,0,'67.32.85.180',1050978128,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Large Oliver','There are not many Olivers that meet those specs. One that comes close is the Oliver 2155 approx. 130 hp with 585 ci. engine, weight 12,050 lbs. This was a Minneapolis Moline painted green. \r\nA true Oliver would be the 2150 approx 120 hp with 478 ci. 6 cylinder turbo engine, weight 12,990. Hope this helps. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'Ag==','2h487q7c',1,0,'',35,0,0),(754,195,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1051022052,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','it depends on the class you want to pull in...and I dont mean weight.  What class restrictions are you talking about.  Can you run alcohol?  Turbos on a tractor that was originally naturally aspirated?  If both of these, then a 2255 on alcohol with a few turbos will walk ANY 1066s dog.  If you are talking close to stock, which I dont think you are because a 1066 cant make 1000hp anywhere near stock, Frank is on the right track with the Moline painted green.  A Moline 800 power unit on alcohol...or even PROPANE! with a turbo is a MONSTER! \r\nAnd that is with a relatively STOCK motor.  You can definitely do this.','',0,'Ag==','28ydo6sg',1,0,'',105,0,0),(755,189,1,197,0,'209.195.143.210',1051025742,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','','can anyone tell me what the gear pattern for a 995 tractor is?','',0,'Ag==','2386xjgl',1,0,'',197,0,0),(756,193,1,12,0,'209.240.212.100',1051032548,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Similar story','I was told a similar story by the Oliver dealer I worked for. At the local county fair&#039;s tractor pull he had a 2150 MFWD there to pull a roller and the IH dealer had a 12 or 1456 hooked to the sled for the pull-back. Everything was going good until they got to a heavy class and the IH spun and couldn&#039;t pull the sled back. He hooked the Oliver on with the MFWD and drove right up out of the holes the IH had made and barely slipped a wheel! He went out that next week and sold three new tractors! He called to order the tractors and was told they were not shipping any more until they corrected some problems they were having with the Hercules engine. He accepted A4Ts with the exception that they have 800 LP engines. Those were some of the first 4x4 articulated tractors around here. WB.','',0,'Ag==','3010kzhc',1,0,'',12,0,0),(757,191,1,122,0,'63.148.118.63',1051062933,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Rockin-B','','There is one on ebay,click Machinery,Agriculture, type in Oliver, search','',0,'Ag==','1lf7q66s',1,0,'',122,0,0),(758,189,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1051193147,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','The gear pattern is like the rest of the Olivers with a double H and the long neutral in between.  High side is R2, 6th, 4th, and 3rd, Low side is R1, 5th, 2nd, and 1st.  That is unless you have two sticks, and then you have one H with a High/Low.  I haven&#039;t seen a 995 with this Transmission, but I dont know about a pan.  I will try and find a picture of the shift pattern to post on here if I can.\r\n\r\nAs for parts, <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oldoliver@aol.com\">oldoliver@aol.com</a><!-- e --> has quite a few things on Ebay right now. He also says that he has over 200 Olivers and Whites to sell and/or part out.  Nothing listed for a 995, and probably not, BUT like I said a 950 hood and grille will work and he might have one of those.  He is in Greenville, IL and the number is 618-664-3050','',0,'Ag==','11uxz1v4',1,0,'',105,0,0),(759,189,1,26,0,'216.43.145.87',1051195397,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','oldoliver@aol.com','I don&#039;t know who <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oldoliver@aol.com\">oldoliver@aol.com</a><!-- e --> is, but he&#039;s not in Greenville and that&#039;s not his phone number.  The 618-664-3050 number in Greenville is Ollie Schaefer&#039;s.  His e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:olliesch@papadocs.com\">olliesch@papadocs.com</a><!-- e -->.  He does have close to 200 tractors that he&#039;s parting out, but he doesn&#039;t sell anything on e-bay.','',0,'Ag==','13utv9v7',1,0,'',26,0,0),(760,196,4,201,0,'150.192.14.167',1051282036,1,0,1,1,1,0,'KyleNickels','ADH','I have an ADH that I am trying to find info on, such as year of manufacture etc.  Ser # is 770022.  I am new to the Cletrac&#039;s and need some sheet metal, grill, track parts.  I plan on doing a total rebuild this year.  Any suggestions on source for parts?  Engine is no problem.','',0,'Ag==','3k6h86it',1,0,'',201,0,0),(761,189,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1051301110,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Hey Sherry, I know that you know your own dad&#039;s phone number, but I swear that is what the ebay items say!  Give me your email and I will send you some of the auctions.  Something seems fishy.  I knew that you would probably know who it was when i posted this. But I didn&#039;t figure that it would be Ollie&#039;s number.','',0,'Ag==','1oxsowyn',1,0,'',105,0,0),(762,197,1,156,0,'64.71.72.244',1051325766,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','Oliver 70 clamshell fender','I need a left side clamshell type fender for my styled 70.  It doesn&#039;t have to be perfect but nothing junky. \r\n\r\nThanks','',0,'Ag==','3v0ota3f',1,0,'',156,0,0),(763,196,4,35,0,'65.82.173.139',1051330762,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','ADH','The AD series crawlers were built from 1937-1959 according to information that I have. It is my guess that the ADH came out in the late 40&#039;s and stayed in production until the mid 50&#039;s. The regular Ad had a 42 inch track center while the ADH had a 50 inch center. The serial number that you gave doesn&#039;t correspond with any of my data. 1954 models begin with serial number 450000 up. The expert on Oliver Clectrac is Landis Zimmerman. He can help identify the year and probably has the parts that you need. He can be reached at 717-738-2573.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'Ag==','k8rbfy5c',1,0,'',35,0,0),(764,197,1,47,0,'65.238.36.85',1051453088,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','You might check with Richard Lynch, 513-456-6686. He makes side curtains, and might have some ideas to fix your problem.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'Ag==','3hdf48lh',1,0,'',47,0,0),(765,196,4,47,0,'65.238.36.85',1051454451,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','ADH, the letters designate, model A, diesel, hillside option which means it is a wider gauge track. Most parts will interchange with an A model, such as your sheet metal, or track rollers. Depending on where you live, it might be easier to look for someone parting out an AG6, the parts you asked about will work. I think you gave your engine serial #. Look on the front of the firewall, right behind the engine, up near the top, probably on the left side, and possibly on the right. You will be looking for a tag about 3&amp;quot;x3&amp;quot;. It might be hard to see if there is much dirt or grease, so take a rag and can of carb cleaner with you. for all years except 1953 and 1954 you will be looking for a number followed by the letter Z and 2 or 3 more numbers, such as 3Z789(example) for the year 1953 it is 3500000 up and 1954 it is 4500000 up.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'Ag==','1g9tfiv1',1,0,'',47,0,0),(766,198,4,202,0,'213.1.14.191',1051648953,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletracboy','Cletrac parts in the uk','Have considerable number of cletrac parts for sale in uk for AD BD HG and MG1 please email me if you need anything specific but haven&#039;t sorted them yet. Sam','',0,'Ag==','3lpg7r2p',1,0,'',202,0,0),(767,189,1,197,0,'209.195.142.172',1051650863,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','','Im sorry but no one I know has a Oliver tractor. I have a Oliver OC 4 but its a single H shift pattern so I dont know what Im doing when it comes to the 995. It should have the same pattern though. Thanks','',0,'Ag==','3455amcb',1,0,'',197,0,0),(768,199,1,185,0,'198.81.26.110',1051673033,1,0,1,1,1,0,'red67114','loader for Super 55 or 550','I have an Oliver 59A loader for sale that will fit a Super 55 or 550. Has hyd lift and bucket cyllinders. Includes valve. Loader is in good condition but hoses are in rough shape. Located in Kansas. $300 obo. Call 316-282-2458 if interested.','',0,'Ag==','2q3uhrny',1,0,'',185,0,0),(769,200,3,35,0,'65.82.173.139',1051818679,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Artist','For those of you who subscribe to the magazine FARM COLLRECTOR you will note on page 60 a drawing of an Oliver HG drawn by Deborah Zimmerman daughter of Landis our Promotion &amp;amp; Publicity chairman.\r\nShe did an excellent job and I know Landis is very proud and I am sure we have another generation of Oliver collectors. She also drew Landis in her drawing and there is a likeness with the exception that she slimmed him down some.<!-- s;) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s;) -->','',0,'Ag==','3lb3ku99',1,0,'',35,0,0),(770,85,1,76,0,'209.130.171.57',1051839193,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kcoers','my collection','1650 G\r\n66 RC\r\n4 - 77 RC&#039;s\r\n88 D\r\n75 Lawn Mower\r\n16 Hp Boat Motor','',0,'Ag==','3bdmzmg5',1,0,'',76,0,0),(771,85,1,156,0,'129.186.99.135',1051841149,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','just gettin&#039; started','I&#039;m a sixteen year old high school sophomore.  I have a &#039;49 77 and a &#039;39 70 which I am restoring for and FFA project.  You can see at the Iowa State Fair this year. It&#039;ll have the first place ribbon on it.','',0,'Ag==','myhg9vn2',1,0,'',156,0,0),(772,201,1,203,0,'66.248.67.53',1051984217,1,0,1,0,1,0,'Richivw','Parts Interchangability','I am new to Oliver tractors. I own a mdl 1450. After doing some research I found out that this is not one of the more desirable mdls to own as I read there were many problems with them. Thus they were only produced for 3 years. Well my 1450 runs great. I am very happy with it and will probably keep it for some time. My question is, are there any other models of either Oliver or other make that had any interchangeable or usable parts for the 1450. I would also be looking for cylinder sleeves, pistons and rod and crank bearings for future repair and or rebuild.\r\n\r\n[Edited on 5-3-2003 by Richivw]\n\n[Edited on 5-3-2003 by Richivw]','',0,'','24siqkk9',1,0,'',203,0,0),(773,202,1,203,0,'66.248.67.53',1051984972,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Primary Fuel Pump for 1450','My 1450 has a primary fuel pump attached to the side of the main diesel injector pump. I have been unable to locate this primary pump (as identified by the glass filter bowel hanging from it) Can anyone lead me to where I might find one. I am currently using an off the shelf electronic fuel pump hooked up in line with this small primary pump. I would however like to keep things as original as possible.  \r\nThanks  Richard','',0,'','2u6p556z',1,0,'',203,0,0),(774,203,1,203,0,'66.248.66.75',1051986349,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Steering Box Shims or Rebuild Kit for 1450','Need set of adjustment shims or rebuild kit for Steering Gear Box. All adjustment is taken up and there is far to much play in the steering wheel. Can anyone help??\r\nThanks Richard.   <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','3njwv1dw',1,0,'',203,0,0),(775,201,1,96,0,'216.201.29.63',1052006928,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','1450','I used to work for a dealer and this is flat farm land not much use for a utility tractor of that size. However we sold three of them and two are still are being used. The third one the owner passed away and I do not know the whereabouts of the tractor. The tractor were made be Fiat and with normal care it should treat you well','',0,'','2gdh0rjb',1,0,'',96,0,0),(776,202,1,96,0,'216.201.29.63',1052007065,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','1450 Transfer pump','This might be easier than you think. There should be a tag on the pump with the model number,etc. E-mail me that and I can see what my friend at the diesel shop can do for you.','',0,'','xyfagaav',1,0,'',96,0,0),(777,203,1,96,0,'216.201.29.63',1052007225,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Steering','Is the play all in the gear box or is there lost mostion in the rest of the steering linkage. Usually you take adjusting shims out to decrease lost motion. Do you have power steering?','',0,'','34wwubka',1,0,'',96,0,0),(778,204,1,204,0,'128.206.231.153',1052068079,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Don N','995','Looking for information on 995 Oliver GM Diesels. On the one I&#039;ve found, the original owner says that when the torque converter went out years ago, they just replaced it with a shaft. It is a very early 1958 according to the serial number. Also, the tractor only has a 3 speed transmission.I thought it should have a 6 speed. Would like to find a torque converter for it. Apparently the converter was used in some industrial applications. A make and model number for the converter would be helpful. Any help would be appreciated.','',0,'','i1j8b1xo',1,0,'',204,0,0),(779,205,1,203,0,'66.248.66.189',1052077240,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Oliver Mdl 1450 head gasket','Can anyone direct me to a head gasket for the mdl 1450 with the Fiat engine.','',0,'','gudy8vpu',1,0,'',203,0,0),(780,189,1,124,0,'12.150.142.241',1052185854,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','Fishy phone number','Sherry,\r\n     I accidently found this guy on the yesterday&#039;s tractors forums using your dad&#039;s phone number.  I talked with him on the phone and he told me his real name and he is from Washington.  He ships a lot of Olivers to your father.  So the ones he ships to him he uses his phone number.  Don&#039;t know why he is using his number on ebay for tractors not going to your dad.\r\nGreg','',0,'','2267qmw7',1,0,'',124,0,0),(781,206,1,197,0,'209.195.140.84',1052266282,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','Oliver Company Poll','Do you think the Oliver company should reopen?(if possible)Let me hear what you guys think.','',0,'','2uyc5ew2',1,0,'',197,0,0),(782,206,1,96,0,'216.201.29.202',1052272277,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oliver Company','Doing What?\r\nWho are they going to buy out to gain market share? If it is with farm equipment, there are too many players now, none makes money at it.There used to be 19 implement dealers in this county selling all the brands but Moline and there was one of them until they had a major fire. Now you have 4 and they sell less units than what any one in the middle did 40 years ago.','',0,'','ut2a5pzt',1,0,'',96,0,0),(783,194,1,205,0,'199.120.121.61',1052272480,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','bullet lights on an early 88','I have a early 88std and a early 88 row crop both had bullet lights and there original and not painted. but there was a tin work option to update for free after the promotion:D','',0,'','1u490m5u',1,0,'',205,0,0),(784,146,1,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1052276851,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','The License Plates Are In !!!!!!!','They will be distributed at the club meeting Thursday night. Remeber that to display them you must submit a copy of your vehicle registration and driver&#039;s license number with $30. I have #60 and #71 which is my usual number. The 60 I got at the auction, Might entertain offers at the show if someone really wants one of the 60s.','',0,'','2o5lo52o',1,0,'',7,0,0),(785,206,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1052316559,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','I agree with John, the industry is in shambles right now.  There are dealerships being lost everyday (John Deere and IH dealerships that have been around for a while mind you)  and there is such a surplus of good used equipment (from leases)  that I dont see how anybody is selling New.  \r\n\r\nAnother thing to think about is how many companies are merging.  It is very hard for a stand-alone company to make it anymore.  I mean really who would have ever thought that two seemingly strong companies like Case and New Holland would have merged?  Not me.  But they did.  Agco has all of the other smaller brands, and they just phased out White.\r\n\r\nIt&#039;s all about the mighty dollar, and no one seems to be making too much of it today in the equipment business.  I dont know the figures, but I have friends who have worked for Deere and they have all told me that the company makes its money on company logo merchandise and lawn and garden.......not farm equipment.\r\n\r\nSorry dont mean to rant, but when I get to thinking about stuff like this I get worried thinking about how farming is slowly and steadily slipping away from us.\r\nI will stop now.<!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P -->','',0,'','jtrl2d5s',1,0,'',105,0,0),(786,207,3,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1052317022,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','Membership Directory','This may be a dumb question, but is there still a membership directory?  I still haven&#039;t got my own membership ( I was always on dad&#039;s) I seem to remember a few years back that there was a directory with all the names and addresses and phone numbers of the members...is it still around and updated?  If yes and I would know this if I would hurry up and join, disregard me.  If not, we need to get it back...it was helpful.  If this never existed.......I am thinking of something else. BUT! Its a good idea if we dont, and We need to look into it.','',0,'','2j1085sk',1,0,'',105,0,0),(787,207,3,26,0,'216.176.89.209',1052322675,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','','The 2003 Membership Directory has been printed and is available.  There&#039;s a 1/4 page ad in the May/June issue of the magazine.  We did not list the membership numbers of each member and I&#039;ve heard a few comments about that.  This WAS done for a specific reason though.  With our new on-line access to memberships, if someone has your membership number, they may be able to change things on your account.  So I thought it best to protect the members by not listing their membership number.  The new directory was larger than we anticipated so the cost is$10.','',0,'','372w65sc',1,0,'',26,0,0),(788,206,1,35,0,'67.34.169.148',1052341467,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','','I think the only possible hope and this would be a long shot would be to petition AGCO to paint some of their tractors meadow green and white and refer to them as White did in 86 as Spirit of Oliver.<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'','1828aoin',1,0,'',35,0,0),(789,207,3,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1052344160,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Thank you Sherry','',0,'','3ll4pbec',1,0,'',105,0,0),(790,208,3,7,0,'205.188.209.12',1052352206,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Current Issue HPOCA Magazine','Got to see the current issue last night and now am waiting at the mail box for it to arrive. When was it mailed? Didn&#039;t get to read it, just flipped through and saw there was another article on #3 and checked out the article that I wrote about the summer show.','',0,'','1js7znxe',1,0,'',7,0,0),(791,208,3,5,0,'216.166.193.18',1052356425,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Magazine','Hi, John. Guess the mail got all fouled up this time, I got mine YESTERDAY.  Do you know if there are any show tractors left? I have failed to order one yet. Looking forward to the show (can&#039;t wait) and the chance to see lots of Olivers. Jim T','',0,'','17guuqyg',1,0,'',5,0,0),(792,209,1,207,0,'63.165.145.115',1052357801,1,0,1,1,1,0,'S. Glover','Oliver 70 KD','I&#039;m just starting to restore my first tractor. It is a 1942 Oliver 70 KD. It needs a clutch and pressure plate which I have found and also a waterpump which I am working on. This tractor still has the KD intake manifold and carb. I have cranked it on unleaded gas and it seems to run pretty well. I&#039;m sure it may need wires, plugs, carb. rebuilt, etc. I guess my first question is how well should this tractor run on unleaded gas and will I have to change the intake and carb. to get it running like it should? I would greatly appreciate any help and info I can get on the KD, I&#039;m sure I wil need lots more in the near future. Thanks.','',0,'','bpequxse',1,0,'',207,0,0),(793,210,1,207,0,'208.7.217.195',1052358079,1,0,1,1,1,0,'S. Glover','Oliver 70 KD','I&#039;m just starting to restore my first tractor. It is a 1942 Oliver 70 KD. It needs a clutch and pressure plate which I have found and also a waterpump which I am working on. This tractor still has the KD intake manifold and carb. I have cranked it on unleaded gas and it seems to run pretty well. I&#039;m sure it may need wires, plugs, carb. rebuilt, etc. I guess my first question is how well should this tractor run on unleaded gas and will I have to change the intake and carb. to get it running like it should? I would greatly appreciate any help and info I can get on the KD, I&#039;m sure I wil need lots more in the near future. Thanks.','',0,'','14olgyg4',1,0,'',207,0,0),(794,208,3,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1052359367,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','show tractors','Jim, \r\n \r\nI don&#039;t know if there are any show tractors left. The only thing I know would be to give Donna Bedell a call. (309)724-8230','',0,'','24cklztw',1,0,'',7,0,0),(795,208,3,12,0,'209.240.212.249',1052399918,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','','Hey John, I got my copy on Tuesday 5-6. I sure was glad to see it because then I knew my membership had been renewed! I really appreciated your article with all the details about the I&amp;amp;I show and grounds. Hmm... two months to get my 880 painted, that shouldn&#039;t be too difficult except for making Hay, planting Corn and Beans, cutting Wheat, building a Barn, and all the other projects! Guess I&#039;m gonna have to get my priorities in line. WB.','',0,'','370r0ikk',1,0,'',12,0,0),(796,137,1,124,0,'152.34.243.22',1052500467,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','Finally got the 2255 home on the 21st of April.   Thought It would never happen.\r\nGreg','',0,'','2099o29a',1,0,'',124,0,0),(797,206,1,197,0,'209.195.138.78',1052524905,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver OC 4 Me','','I dont really think the Oliver company could open but if it could would anyone like to see it reopen or would you rather keep your tractors antiques?','',0,'','6ucpex83',1,0,'',197,0,0),(798,208,3,5,0,'216.166.193.197',1052526975,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Show tractor','John, I talked with Donna on Wednesday and she told me the first 100 toys were gone,they ordered another 100 with about 80 left at that time. Got mine ordered and can&#039;t wait to get it. To everyone out there that wants the 880 show tractor, CALL to order them.','',0,'','2s5v3z7c',1,0,'',5,0,0),(799,208,3,7,0,'64.12.96.166',1052527250,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Tractors and other stuff','Great, I knew they were getting close to having the first 100 sold a couple of weeks ago. I&#039;m still bummed out because I haven&#039;t got my magazine yet and everybody has been telling me about theirs. Maybe this is the penance I am paying for getting two last month. There are also special event license plates available, we got ours last night. John','',0,'','1c8o4155',1,0,'',7,0,0),(800,208,3,5,0,'216.166.192.94',1052538774,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Magazine','Hi, John. Maybe with all the wild weather we&#039;ve been having in IL the creek is out and the mailman can&#039;t get to you!LOL Up near Bill Meeker&#039;s they got 3+&amp;quot; one night last week and I heard over 2&amp;quot; again last night. More rain tonight and through the weekend. It is hailing here as I type this. You did such a fine job writing the overview of the show that I hope you didn&#039;t forget to order Several days of &amp;quot;cool, balmy, sunshine&amp;quot; for the middle of July. Jim T','',0,'','dcpl2s58',1,0,'',5,0,0),(801,206,1,35,0,'67.34.169.148',1052591089,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','oliver poll','It doesn&#039;t matter if Olivers went back into production the tractors we now have would still be antiques and classics.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','t01864lw',1,0,'',35,0,0),(802,211,1,35,0,'67.34.169.148',1052593108,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Trade?','I have a new in the box 1/16 Oliver 1950T (2002 National Show) that I would like to trade for a near mint 1/16 Oliver 99 or 990. I would consider the 1/12 Franklin Mint 99 and would give some boot. If interested give me a buzz on u2u.','',0,'','pgx92y0z',1,0,'',35,0,0),(803,208,3,35,0,'67.34.169.148',1052623525,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','magazine','I haven&#039;t got mine yet! It was probably blown away when the tornado that hit Sunday blew our main post office away.<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,'','21v5e2nu',1,0,'',35,0,0),(804,212,1,96,0,'216.201.29.98',1052702843,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oliver Grain Dryers','I started working for an Oliver dealer in the fall of 1960. In the fall of 1961 or 62 we picked up two Oliver grain dryers. Does any one have any literature on them and who made them. We also had an Oliver/Iron Age airblast sprayer for tomatoes. It was a little bit of an experimental one too. Does anybody have any literature on them or the regular Iron age tomato sprayers? They are\r\ndifferent from the sprayers used for fruit trees.','',0,'','2ggimdd0',1,0,'',96,0,0),(805,203,1,203,0,'66.248.68.75',1052754234,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Power steering box play','John,\r\nYes I do have power steering and have checked the other linkage parts and there is no play in them. I did not know that you take shims out to get more adjustment. This info might be just what I need to take the play out of the steering box.\r\nThanks  Richard','',0,'','2sv2lsr3',1,0,'',203,0,0),(806,202,1,203,0,'66.248.68.75',1052754722,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Diesel transfer pump','John,\r\nI will look at the pump to see if I can find a Mdl number but when I did disassemble it to clean it up and see if I could find parts to rebuild it I did not find any tag nor do I remember seeing any Mdl number. But I will check again as maybe I just missed it or don&#039;t remember seeing the number. I will try to get back to you after I check this out. \r\nDo you have any leads on a head gasket for the 1450 with the Fiat engine along with any rebuild kits such as pistons, bearings, sleeves or other.\r\nThanks Richard','',0,'','1c91dqfi',1,0,'',203,0,0),(807,202,1,96,0,'216.201.29.59',1052761841,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Transfer Pump','Rich.\r\nI need the information off the injection pump not the transfer pump. I will be going to the fuel shop later this week.\r\nDo you have the engine apart? If so do you have dimensions for the head gasket or a gasket number?','',0,'','309gd5w9',1,0,'',96,0,0),(808,202,1,203,0,'66.248.67.78',1052767898,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Injector pump &amp; Head Gasket','John,\r\nThanks for clearifying that for me. I will check the injector pump rather than the transfer pump.\r\nNo the engine is not apart nor is the injector pump as it is running quite good right now. But I heard that the head gasket is the main weakness in this mdl. So I am looking for these things for future use. I understand that the engine is a Fiat 615. I do not have the dimensions. Is it the length and width of the head at the gasket that you are looking for? Do you know if a head gasket can be fabricated and if so what kind of material would I use?\r\nI think what happens is that the head bolts get wet and eventually rust through allowing the head gasket to begin leaking. So I am thinking about replacing the head bolts 1 by 1 with a grade 8 stainless steel if I can find them.\r\nRichard','',0,'','31hayduj',1,0,'',203,0,0),(809,208,3,7,0,'205.188.208.134',1052783551,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','SUCCESS! The Eagle Has Landed!','My issue arrived today in good condition, should have it read by bedtime.\r\nJohn:o','',0,'','3frbbeg4',1,0,'',7,0,0),(810,213,1,212,0,'207.69.90.114',1052798625,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tractor mike','MANY TRACTORS AND PARTS','we have lost most of our storage space and are being forced to sell many of our tractors and parts tractors.  whe have a few OLIVERS and about a dozen FORDSON parts machnes and many individual parts.  e-mail me for a partial list.  we also have allis chalmers, john deeres, minneapolis molines, farmalls and many other parts and tractors.  40+ years of collecting has finally got to go.  also check out my website for lots of tractors and other stuff that interests me.\r\nmichael\r\n\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:michael@crowderinc.com\">michael@crowderinc.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n<!-- w --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.crowderinc.com\">www.crowderinc.com</a><!-- w -->','',0,'','qjhqglvh',1,0,'',212,0,0),(811,208,3,33,0,'64.91.164.116',1052856971,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Eric Severance','','You guys are lucky ! Here it is Tuesday the 13th and mine still hasn&#039;t come yet. Heck my Antique Power even beat it here this time !!!','',0,'','26dae0wd',1,0,'',33,0,0),(812,214,1,205,0,'199.120.121.1',1052958114,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','early 88 nose piece','I have a early88 nose piece grills and center strip and are in excellent condition. I was wondering what they are worth.','',0,'','12ycmm9r',1,0,'',205,0,0),(813,214,1,82,0,'216.106.56.54',1052965096,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','','I bought a set of grills for my old stylle 88 several years ago and gave $100 for the set.  They are pretty good grills.  I don&#039;t know about the center strip.','',0,'','2g7har2l',1,0,'',82,0,0),(814,215,1,205,0,'199.120.121.94',1053047020,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','oliver 60 muffler','did the oliver 60 have a muffler if they did were they under the hood, and where can I find one. I have a 60 standard that I am restoring.','',0,'','25na52rl',1,0,'',205,0,0),(815,214,1,205,0,'199.120.121.94',1053047348,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','thanks Jason','the nose piece and grills and center strip are a take off from the tin work option. I dont remember off hand what year that they offered that option I ended up whith to sets I bought in about 85 on a Oliver-white close out sale in northern Iowa.','',0,'','1e1fb57p',1,0,'',205,0,0),(816,85,1,205,0,'199.120.121.94',1053048348,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','a little of my collection','I&#039;ll  start new and work back\r\n\r\nwhite 2-180\r\nwhite 2-150\r\nwhite 2-135\r\noliver G-1355\r\n806 International\r\n706 international\r\n2-770s\r\n1-88rc with wide front\r\n1-88nf\r\n1-88std diesel\r\n1-88std gas\r\n1-77rc nf\r\n1-77std diesel\r\n1-77std wheatland gas\r\n1-66rc nf\r\n1-early88 rc\r\n1-early88std\r\n1-60std\r\n6-70rc nf\r\n1-70rc wide front\r\n1-70std \r\n2-80rc nf\r\n1-80rc wide front on steel with double tip \r\ntoe steel\r\n4-Hart parr 70s all are nf\r\n1-Hart parr 70std\r\n4-18-27 one has single steel wheel on front\r\nand one HG oliver crawler','',0,'','2v7ef4yp',1,0,'',205,0,0),(817,216,1,213,0,'216.190.226.193',1053096598,1,0,1,1,1,0,'texjimrn','WHAT A GREAT SITE','THIS IS A GREAT SITE,I&#039;M OFF DOWN HERE IN EAST TEXAS,AND HAVE DECIDED TO GO AGAINST THE GRAIN AND SHOW AND PULL OLIVERS!!! THIS IS JOHN DEERE AND FARMALL COUNTRY,I HOPE TO GIVE THEM A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY,I HAVE ALREADY GOT A 88 RC AND A SUPER 66.HOPE I CAN RELY ON SOME OF YOU LONG TIME OLIVER BOYS FOR ADVICE.... THERE IS NO DOUBT,AN OLIVER IS A CUT ABOVE,AND INSPIRES JUSTIFIED PRIDE      JIM IN EAST TEXAS','',0,'','3ia9hdlj',1,0,'',213,0,0),(818,202,1,96,0,'216.201.29.85',1053097100,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','1450 Head gasket','I think you have gotten some mis-information. Send me a U2U John','',0,'','26b66wi8',1,0,'',96,0,0),(819,217,1,213,0,'216.190.226.193',1053097364,1,0,1,1,1,0,'texjimrn','SUPER 66 CARB AND POWER','JUST GOT ME AN EXTRA CLEAN SUPER66,95% RESTORED AND REBUILT..BUT... SOMEONE HAD STUCK A DARN CARTER CARBURETOR ON IT ,IT WILL ONLY RUN WITH CHOKE 1/3 AND THE THING LEAKS ALL THE TIME ,EVEN AFTER A KIT BY FORMER OWNER. WHAT IS THE BEST CARB FOR GOOD PULLING POWER,AND WOULD I BE BETTER BUYING FROM AN INDIVIDUAL AND REBUILDING IF I CAN GET KITS     JIM  IN EAST  TEXAS','',0,'','eytymty5',1,0,'',213,0,0),(820,218,1,213,0,'216.190.226.193',1053097753,1,0,1,1,1,0,'texjimrn','PAINT ON SUPER 66','SOMEONE HAS PAINTED MY NEW SUPER 66 WITH THE WHITE AND GREEN LIKE A 660,I WAS TOLD A SUPER 66 HAD A DIFFERENT PAINT SCHEME FROM A REGULAR 66.ANY SITES WITH PICTURES OR BOOKS  ANY SUGGESTIONS   JIM  IN EAST  TEXAS','',0,'','2docqv6d',1,0,'',213,0,0),(821,219,1,213,0,'216.190.226.193',1053098114,1,0,1,1,1,0,'texjimrn','WHEEL WEIGHTS SUPER 66','MY TRACTOR CAME WITH ONLY ONE WHEEL WEIGHT,HAVE ACCESS TO A JUNK 6O AND A JUNK 70 WITH WHEEL WEIGHTS WILL THEY FIT...WILL WEIGHTS FROM ANY OTHER BRAND FIT. HOW MUCH WILL MY TRACTOR WEIGH WITH NO WATER TIRES AND A STANDARD SET OF WHEEL WEIGHTS    JIM  IN EAST  TEXAS','',0,'','2jyh9o2c',1,0,'',213,0,0),(822,220,1,213,0,'216.190.226.193',1053098492,1,0,1,1,1,0,'texjimrn','88 PULLING POWER','GOT A BIG OLE 88,THE MOTOR HAD BEEN OVERHAULED AND CONVERTED FROM A PROPANE TO GASOLINE.HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE PULLING POWER??ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO BUMP UP THE POWER,TO COMPETE WITH THESE JOHN DEERE BOYS   JIM IN EAST  TEXAS','',0,'','2i16a90o',1,0,'',213,0,0),(823,221,2,214,0,'209.166.70.2',1053104201,1,0,1,1,1,0,'jdnut','Looking for 18-36 Parts','Hello,\r\n\r\n    I am looking for parts for my 1928 18-36.  I am looking for Oiler Parts as well as a complete waterpump assembly.   I am certain to need more as time goes on.  I am located in Wester Washington.   Any help GREATLY appreciated!\r\n\r\n           Jdnut','',0,'','2ljdbga9',1,0,'',214,0,0),(824,218,1,35,0,'67.34.170.130',1053104812,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','66 paint','The styling of the Super 66 remained about the same as the 66 except the side panels were elimated. The cast below the grill was squared .  The supers came out in 1954 and the paint scheme was green sheet metal, green wheels, yellow grill, green strip with oliver in yellow, decals yellow. I think about 1956 the company changed the wheels to red. Super series never had anything painted white.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','3kyya86c',1,0,'',35,0,0),(825,214,1,82,0,'216.106.56.66',1053199631,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Jason Epperson','early 88 sheetmetal','I might be interested in one of the pieces you have.  My grill housing is a little beat up and I thought if I could find one reasonable, I would replace it.  Do you know how much you want for these pieces?  Thank you.','',0,'','9qkhjnoa',1,0,'',82,0,0),(826,222,1,215,0,'205.188.209.71',1053216300,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rich Cini','Rebuilt Water Pumps','Hi, I posted here awhile back but I&#039;ve since changed my e-mail address.  We rebuilt water pumps for Hart Parr and other makes of tractors.  E-mail me to receive a quote.  Thank you for your inquiries.  We ship anywhere in the U.S.\r\n\r\nRich Cini\r\nRC Remanufacturing','',0,'','1ngexos7',1,0,'',215,0,0),(827,213,1,203,0,'66.248.65.183',1053217471,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Richivw','Tractor Parts','Mike,\r\nMight you have any parts for the Oliver mdl 1450? If so can you send me a quick list.\r\nThanks\r\nRichard','',0,'','1e1klbfl',1,0,'',203,0,0),(828,223,1,205,0,'199.120.121.47',1053392451,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','Reproduction fenders','Does anyone know who is making fenders for Hart Parr 70s styled 70s and 80s all row crop.','',0,'','28dqjneg',1,0,'',205,0,0),(829,223,1,35,0,'67.34.170.74',1053396591,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','fenders','You might try Steiner at 810-621-3000, Korves 618-939-6681,Rick Stair 330-264-9720, Story Tractor 615-898-3041.','',0,'','mmd0bdtz',1,0,'',35,0,0),(830,224,3,35,0,'65.82.172.216',1053452439,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Magazine','I read the entire issue of the magazine before I put it down now I will have to wait another 2 months. I have been a member for 5 years and I have seen our magazine blossom into a publication any organization would be proud . I think a lot of the progress we have made goes to Sherry Schaefer. She does a tremendous job researching articles and gathering material from experts on Oliver. I feel she deserves our graditude for a job well done.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2lwjmvjf',1,0,'',35,0,0),(831,224,3,116,0,'63.173.216.239',1053473577,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','','I agree, the magazine is great. First thing I look at are the classifieds, then read it cover to cover. I only have one problem with it, usually shows up same time as Antique Power. If I could get one of them in May and the other in June wouldn&#039;t have to go through tractor withdraw (LOL).   Keep up the good work Sherry.    Thanks alot,  Todd Kline','',0,'','cfp6kyu3',1,0,'',116,0,0),(832,224,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1053475753,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','<!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->  it still hasn&#039;t arrived.   Antique power has been here for a week and already read.   I hope it isn&#039;t lost in the mail.','',0,'','lxh4nl3i',1,0,'',188,0,0),(833,225,1,218,0,'205.188.208.172',1053558605,1,0,1,1,1,0,'colo80','parts','can anyone out there help me? I am in need of a starter for my oliver 80 standard delco #1107423. I also need the belt pulley and the shaft that it goes on. Finally I need the headlight brackets, and rear fender light bracket as well. Oh and I almost forgot a radiator cap. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.   <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:jdacih@aol.com\">jdacih@aol.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','3qlnygmx',1,0,'',218,0,0),(834,226,1,116,0,'63.167.64.138',1053588445,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','Why don&#039;t they understand?','Why don&#039;t wives understand our need to buy tractors? When I see an old rusty tractor for sale I look beyond its current condition, and see what it should look like. My wife doesn&#039;t seem to have that vision. Take the latest addition to my stable for example, 1937 Oliver Hart Parr &amp;quot;70&amp;quot;. It&#039;s rusty, greasy, dirty, and missing a few peices, but it was cheap. I thought the guy was going to pay me to take it, but I wasn&#039;t that lucky. My wife saw it when I got it home and said &amp;quot; what are you going to do with that junk, I&#039;ve got jigsaw puzzles with less peices missing.&amp;quot; I guess she will just never understand.','',0,'','2zmamftr',1,0,'',116,0,0),(835,227,1,5,0,'216.166.192.17',1053654345,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Hyd. Cylinder bracket','looking for a bracket that holds a hyd cylinder on the fender when transporting down the road and the cylinder is not in use. Anyone have one they don&#039;t use and will part with? How many of you still use them? I looked in an ALL OLIVER boneyard the other evening and didn&#039;t find even one!Thanks','',0,'','2wwhw38i',1,0,'',5,0,0),(836,227,1,205,0,'199.120.121.95',1053654941,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','cylinder holders','I might have a couple, are you looking for the ones on a 66 77 88  or supers or 770s','',0,'','2wu2cuqe',1,0,'',205,0,0),(837,215,1,205,0,'199.120.121.95',1053655212,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','','I called lyle Dumont he said that they did have one and it was a option believe it or not. It fits under the hood and the pipe barely sticks through like most old pictures I&#039;ve seen.','',0,'','2k7bptbn',1,0,'',205,0,0),(838,227,1,96,0,'216.201.29.115',1053685396,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Cylinder Bracket','Not all the tractors would have had one. It is for a double unit hydraulic and would have been used to raise and lower the cultivator on the left side. I know when I worked at the dealership probably less than 10% of the tractors had them even if they had a double unit. They would mount on the left fender. The right cylinder would be set up to be used on the implement you were pulling. Then later on you got into situations where some tools used two trailing cylinders and then when the 1800 came out both cylinders hung on the back of the tractor.','',0,'','3164hivs',1,0,'',96,0,0),(839,227,1,5,0,'216.166.193.130',1053745777,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','hyd. cyl. bracket','To evansoliver: From your response I take it there were 3 styles of brackets? What is the difference? I&#039;m looking for one that will take the Hydra-lectric cyl. with the pipe down the side. I also have a NON electric cyl, but I suppose it should fit the same bracket, or am I wrong?  oleblu','',0,'','2git9rak',1,0,'',5,0,0),(840,227,1,96,0,'216.201.29.50',1053775156,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Brackets','All Oliver cylinders be they electric or non hydra-lectric for that time period have the pipe down the side. There are two styles of cylinders for the hydra-lectric and two diameters of them with the 66 Tractors using a smaller cylinder. Remember the electric control was an option. The brackets will probably be the same I can check it need be.','',0,'','3br8hnip',1,0,'',96,0,0),(841,215,1,96,0,'216.201.29.50',1053775285,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','60 muffler','I stopped at my local dealer yesterday and he had a 60 muffler in stock Part number H-452 so they probably are still available.','',0,'','qog1ulop',1,0,'',96,0,0),(842,227,1,5,0,'216.166.193.226',1053776159,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','bracket','Thanks for the information, John. Until recently I had only seen the ones with the pipe down the side. Two weeks ago I aquired one that has both hoses going in the base, non electric. Did they make different cylinders for the 77 &amp;amp; 88 series, a different one for the Super series, and yet another style for the triple digits or were they all the same? How many styles would make a complete collection for these series tractors? Also, I think someone posted the Hydra-lectric was brought out around mid-1951. When did they stop using it? Thanks Jim T','',0,'','342rdthq',1,0,'',5,0,0),(843,227,1,96,0,'216.201.29.105',1053793860,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Cylinders-Hydralectric','Oleblu, please check your U2U box. Before thousands of you jump my case, yes there was a 4 inch cylinder released mainly for the 770/880 Power traction hitch so yes there are 3 different sizes of hydralectric cylinders. Group one hydra-lectrics came out in 1950 same year as the diesel engine. Maybe we should put a tech type article about the difference in hydra-lectric units for the magazine','',0,'','2mbjzegf',1,0,'',96,0,0),(844,228,1,140,0,'216.95.136.121',1053795911,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverorchard','Pull type Combine (18)','Can anyone tell me as to what type of wood was used on the reel? I have a combine where the wood has to be replaced. Thanks:)','',0,'','35akaog2',1,0,'',140,0,0),(845,228,1,35,0,'67.34.168.243',1053829166,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','model 18 combine','My dad and uncle owned a model 18. They also sold 2 or 3 in our area. I asked dad if he remembered what type wood was on the reel. He is 88 years young and remembers very well his days with Olivers. He remembers that it was a hard wood light in color and was shallaced(maybe maple). I have set-up instructions for the model 18. <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1sokzqoa',1,0,'',35,0,0),(846,228,1,140,0,'216.95.136.100',1053866015,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverorchard','Oliver 18 Combine','Thanks for your help. Is the set up book green? I have one in very very rough shape.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1swk6ren',1,0,'',140,0,0),(847,228,1,140,0,'216.95.137.47',1053889431,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverorchard','Oliver 18 Combine','Frank Dodson please e-mail @ <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oliverorchard@hotmail.com\">oliverorchard@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->  I would like to chat with you.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1gr2ne21',1,0,'',140,0,0),(848,228,1,35,0,'67.34.168.243',1053898302,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','instructions model 18 combine','The publication that I have is form no. S4-3-T1. It had 13 pages with no color. It is in pretty good shape.<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','xa5ijkce',1,0,'',35,0,0),(849,226,1,215,0,'152.163.253.39',1053914627,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Rich Cini','I feel you&#039;re pain','This issue has been in explored thoroughly in the book, &amp;quot;Love, Sex and Tractors&amp;quot; by Roger Welsch.  This is a book for men who love their tractors beyond logic, like us.  <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->','',0,'','1kricgk2',1,0,'',215,0,0),(850,229,1,219,0,'68.57.251.147',1053984250,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Schulthess','Instructions for threading Oliver 50','I am needing information on an Oliver 50 baler.  How do you thread it?  We are VERY new to making hay (already broke the sickle mower this afternoon - yeah) and although I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, I can&#039;t figure this out.  Any guidance is much appreciated.','',0,'','2v0shpz5',1,0,'',219,0,0),(851,229,1,12,0,'209.240.212.227',1054089947,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','','It&#039;s been awhile since I had an Oliver baler but I&#039;ll try to help. The path of the twine from the ball to the needles should go out of the box through a tensioning device and through some ceramic guides [I think Oliver uses those] to the needles. The twine needs to go under the bottom of the needles and through hole above the roller in the needle. Bring the twine back and tie it off to something solid. Then run the baler at a slow speed or turn by hand and trip the knotters by lifting the trip arm or turn the wheel to trip it. After the knotter has cycled the twine should be in the twine disc and be ready to start forming a bale. You can remove the extra twine and get it out of the way. I hope thats clear as mud <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->. Good luck and post back if you need more info, WB.','',0,'','w0hu5i8u',1,0,'',12,0,0),(852,229,1,96,0,'216.201.29.32',1054137999,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Book','See if you can come up with an operators manual for a later baler such as a 520. If I remember right and it has been over 25 years   they had illustrations of defective knots and what caused them and them what to change to correct. I think wrench bender is pretty well correct.Also check your U2U box.','',0,'','1znwuqbl',1,0,'',96,0,0),(853,227,1,205,0,'199.120.121.65',1054175533,1,0,1,1,1,0,'evansoliver','cylinder holders','No I&#039;am not sure if there were 3 different styles but I do no that there were to between the fleetlines and the 3 digit tractors. I havent had time to check on how many I do have.','',0,'','q2jtxi7n',1,0,'',205,0,0),(854,227,1,5,0,'216.166.192.72',1054177239,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','bracket','to evansoliver, I may have found the brackets I need but the gent who says he has them will be away on vacation till the middle of June. The wait will be hard to take but since he is only 5-6 miles away from me, I&#039;ll wait. Thanks jim t','',0,'','2k8k2nip',1,0,'',5,0,0),(855,230,1,221,0,'198.208.6.35',1054216564,1,0,1,1,1,0,'New_2_Oliver','New Member','Hi guys,\r\n\r\nUI just found this page and thought I would join.\r\n\r\nI just purchased my first tractor, it is a Cockshutt 60 Standard.  It is rough shape and needs quite a few parts.\r\n\r\nI don&#039;t know much about Olivers so I will likely ask some dumb questions.<!-- s;) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s;) -->','',0,'','c9krn5hs',1,0,'',221,0,0),(856,231,1,221,0,'198.208.6.35',1054217246,1,0,1,1,1,0,'New_2_Oliver','How did you get hooked??','Just thought I would start a thread where everyone can tell how they got hooked on Olivers.\r\n\r\nI&#039;ll go first.\r\n\r\nI had never had anything to do with Olivers until I started dating my now wife when I was a teenager.  My family farmed but we had only MF, Case and International and all fairly new.\r\n\r\nI started helping my father inlaw and he has an Oliver 77 RC that he used on the farm.  Well the first time I heard that 6 cylinder run and load up a little I was hooked!!  That was the best sounding tractor I had ever heard and then I learned about the dual range transmission and the independant PTO and couldn&#039;t believe that Oliver didn&#039;t own the tractor market in the early years.  \r\n\r\nWell since that day I have learned every thing I could about the differnt models and saw many more olivers and heard many more of those great 6 cylinders (including my father inlaws Cockshutt 70).  And now after quite a bit of looking I own my own little Oliver in Canadian clothes, a Cockshutt 60.  It isn&#039;t a 6 cylinder but I vow that my next Oliver will be.\r\n\r\n<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','2qevk96y',1,0,'',221,0,0),(857,232,1,220,0,'205.204.242.22',1054217467,1,0,1,1,1,0,'JerryB','Early 88 details','Can anyone tell me if the early 88&#039;s had the shift pattern plate on the dash?  Mine doesn&#039;t even have holes drilled for the plate.\r\n\r\nAlso, did the early 88&#039;s have the raised  rib that went down the sides of the front frame casting? My &#039;49 has the ribs as well as my &#039;50. The 47 doesn&#039;t have the ribs and I am thinking that either they were added at a later date or my front frame has been replaced with a newer one.','',0,'','18wpwu6j',1,0,'',220,0,0),(858,230,1,35,0,'67.34.171.123',1054225481,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','new member','Welcome!\r\nThis is a good forum so tell others about it. We need more interaction.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','4ekqtx50',1,0,'',35,0,0),(859,233,1,221,0,'198.208.6.35',1054235277,1,0,1,1,1,0,'New_2_Oliver','Last Oliver 60 Produced?','Does anyone know what the serial # was for the last 60 taht was produced.\r\n\r\nAnd even better if you happen to know the serial # of the last 60 that was sold as a Cockshutt.  (I don&#039;t know if that info even exists.)\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,'','nqb5s4v1',1,0,'',221,0,0),(860,233,1,221,0,'198.208.6.35',1054242620,1,0,1,1,1,0,'New_2_Oliver','','I found the last serial number for a 60 on a link from this site.  The last 60&#039;s serial # is 413605.\r\n\r\nIf someone has info on the Cockshutt #s it would be great.\r\n\r\nThanks for looking.  <!-- s:cool: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif\" alt=\":cool:\" title=\"Cool\" /><!-- s:cool: -->','',0,'','2rnfydg9',1,0,'',221,0,0),(861,233,1,35,0,'67.34.171.123',1054243106,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Oliver 60','According to Alan Kings Oliver- Hart-Parr data book no. 4 the last serial numbers are as follows:\r\n60 Row Crop -625131\r\n60 Standard- 413605\r\n60 Industrial-460815\r\nI do not have serial numbers for Cockshutt.\r\nYou may want to try their link.\r\n\r\n<!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->:):):):D','',0,'','343d6p9m',1,0,'',35,0,0),(862,233,1,96,0,'216.201.29.63',1054259765,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Serial Numbers','The serial numbers for the Cockshutt are mixed in with the Oliver serial numbers, Since you mentioned your tractor was going to need some work you may want to look for a year and a number stamped in the top of the cylinder head in the front. Some are under the thermostat housing some other the edge of the valve cover. This will be the month and the year the head was machined. There appear to be quite a few 1948 model 60 tractors.','',0,'','2yk4d2jp',1,0,'',96,0,0),(863,234,1,43,0,'158.247.216.41',1054261682,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverdude','Oliver 22-A sickle mower and 107 rake','Does anyone know where I can find a good source for parts to the 22-A mower and 107 rake? I need two of the two piece rims for the mower, an original pto shaft, pto shaft guard, and the bearing cap that fits the front of the gear box where the pto goes in. Any parts or information would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:olivercollector@yahoo.com\">olivercollector@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->\r\nThanks','',0,'','byglp794',1,0,'',43,0,0),(864,235,1,156,0,'129.186.99.108',1054271988,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','Need 70 rims badly','I need a pair of 36&amp;quot; rims that will fit on my cast centers, i have the split rims and would like to get away from them if i can','',0,'','3ey2vzxr',1,0,'',156,0,0),(865,233,1,221,0,'198.208.6.35',1054295314,1,0,1,1,1,1,'New_2_Oliver','# of 60&#039;s','Yes you are correct, there were 1644 standard 60s produced in 1948.  \r\n\r\nIt is unfortunate that the Cockshutt #s weren&#039;t kept separate.\r\n\r\nThanks for the info guys.','',0,'','3jqrlvct',1,0,'',221,0,0),(866,236,1,222,0,'67.97.153.250',1054319375,1,0,1,1,1,0,'David','What is the best pre 1960 Oliver for Antique tractor pulls?','Just wondering.','',0,'','an66i3bs',1,0,'',222,0,0),(867,236,1,35,0,'67.34.171.26',1054333045,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','puller','My choice would definitly be the 88. GREAT TRACTOR!:D','',0,'','3bkbuwzi',1,0,'',35,0,0),(868,236,1,206,0,'205.245.188.64',1054434289,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Swampy','','Iam like Frank the 88 would be the most poplar tractor for pulling before 60.','',0,'','3iiail1v',1,0,'',206,0,0),(869,228,1,223,0,'66.43.217.49',1054509574,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RussVetter','','I own a Model 18 Combine; it was the 241st one built and has only had about 300 acres run through it. The original rasp bars still have sharp edges. Mine was very well taken care of and sheded most of its life until about four years before I bought it. I can tell you that my reel is white oak and were painted green. Come to the Albert City Show this late summer in Albert City, IA. I&#039;ll have the combine on display with a 1954 Oliver Row Crop 66 diesel. Good Luck with your project!','',0,'','3306v44z',1,0,'',223,0,0),(870,237,1,223,0,'66.43.217.49',1054510504,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RussVetter','Sediment in the engine block','I have tried everything under the sun to clean out or &amp;quot;flush&amp;quot; the block on my 77. I was hoping that I would not have to dismantal the entire engine to clean what appears to be sand from the casting or just build up of sand from over the decades. I have replaced the temp gauge in it twice and it still doesn&#039;t regiester the temp; when I poke around in the block, where the sending unit goes, I get alot of sand. I have tried compressed air and flushing solvents; but no luck. If someone has any ideas I would like to hear from you.\r\nThanks','',0,'','658gymul',1,0,'',223,0,0),(871,237,1,5,0,'216.166.193.90',1054519885,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Build-up','Russ, are you sure it&#039;s sand? I&#039;ve read somewhere of lime scale building up in engines and radiators. How does your rad. look? oleblu','',0,'','2v8d0nmn',1,0,'',5,0,0),(872,237,1,156,0,'64.71.74.83',1054612565,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','Its tough','The 70 that I restored had junk packed all around the sleeves in the block. It took the machine shop four times in the washer to get it clean and it still has stuff in it!','',0,'','kmyx07qq',1,0,'',156,0,0),(873,238,3,35,0,'65.82.173.121',1054655713,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Wondering','I was wondering how many individuals that use this site will be going to Penfield. I think it would be fun if we could meet face to face. Maybe we can get more to use this site. I have learned from it and have met good Oliver folks via electronics but it would be good to put a face to our web friends.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','3bpqmqi5',1,0,'',35,0,0),(874,237,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1054661754,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','I&#039;m sure it is sand, or just finely broken down dirt particles.  You gotta remember what these toys of our did for a living, what they were built for.  Plowing through dirt all day long, every day, for as long as it could. \r\nThose old oil bath air filters were ok, but not the best, and I wonder how many of them were cleaned as often as they should have been, especially when the tractor got to be a few years old.','',0,'','2hys4u48',1,0,'',105,0,0),(876,238,3,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1054669338,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Internet meeting at Penfield','Having meetiings of the folks you meet on the internet has been really interesting at Penfield and a few other shows that I have been to. If one of you guys want to set a time I will get you a location and some publicity via the PA announcer at the show.\r\n\r\nhttp:www.antiquefarm.org','',0,'','1qj18a5j',1,0,'',7,0,0),(877,238,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1054675493,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','I hope to be there for at least one day.   depends on the farm work if I will be bringing the 70 and staying longer.','',0,'','3nne4vas',1,0,'',188,0,0),(878,240,1,5,0,'216.166.192.28',1054687389,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Biglersville PA','Is anyone from this area going to the HPOCA show in Penfield, IL? I have a pair of front hubs and the pressed tin rims that need a ride to PA. Thanks for looking. My e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oleblu80@hotmail.com\">oleblu80@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','mwdaog73',1,0,'',5,0,0),(879,241,1,230,0,'130.171.134.99',1054846118,1,0,1,1,1,0,'jeff550','1963 550 original generator for sale','Oliver 550 generator and regulator for sale.  Was in working condition when removed 2 days ago.\r\n\r\nupgraded to electronic ignition, alternator, and negative ground.\r\n\r\n$75.00 or best offer\n\n[Edited on 6-5-2003 by jeff550]','',0,'','3nyco1ri',1,0,'',230,0,0),(880,212,1,232,0,'129.74.228.123',1055080263,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Harry Deckler','','It took me a week to recall, but the name of the Mfg. of the Oliver grain dryers was Clayton-Lambert. They have a web-site and are still in buisness making stainless steel swimming pools. Sorry but I don&#039;t have any literature. never was around the iron age stuff.\n\n[Edited on 6-8-2003 by Harry Deckler]','',0,'','3lk5jp49',1,0,'',232,0,0),(881,242,1,7,0,'64.12.96.106',1055114163,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 HPOCA National Summer Show','Plans are underway for one of the best shows ever held in conjunction with the I&amp;amp;I Antique Tractor and Gas Engine Club in Penfield, IL. Be sure to check out the latest news at <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->\r\n\r\nLet me Know if I can personally help you in any way. I have had several emails and phone calls and they are always welcome.\r\n\r\nA couple of reminders, we do not allow ATVs on the grounds, you can bring your golf cart or utility vehicle. Our new insurance carrier has stipulated that NO RIDERS will be allowed on tractors unless a seat is provided for that purpose and no one under 16 that doesn&#039;t have a drivers license will be allowed to drive a vehicle on the grounds. There will also be a saftey meeting at several times for those who wish to drive tractors in the parade. You will only need to attend once and you will receive a tag, pin or ribbon that will allow you to drive a tractor in the parade.\r\n\r\nJohn','',0,'','2aizso58',1,0,'',7,0,0),(882,242,1,12,0,'209.240.212.100',1055126765,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','A couple ???','What kind of info do you have on the tractor pull? What about the camping on the grounds? Is it first come? How soon in the week can you set up camp? Thanks, WB.','',0,'','pvyexgoc',1,0,'',12,0,0),(883,242,1,35,0,'67.34.168.183',1055131272,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','National Show','I will be traveling from TN with tractor and garden tractor and because of job commentments will not arrive until late Thursday afternoon. Will I still be able to unload and show my equipment?','',0,'','2nd4usxn',1,0,'',35,0,0),(884,242,1,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1055163971,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','You guys are too easy','The tractor pull is for fun, but is a regulation track and sled. We usually divide the classes by how many plows the tractor pulls. We let everybody pull, even the crawlers, usually by weight class, smallest first and we usually run 2 sleds.&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3bec6b8/bc/2002+Historic+Farm+Days/Pulling+Track.jpg?bcu.15.AuVIg9w4r&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\r\n\r\nCamping is primitive on site, no services, however we usually arrange for service from the portapotty guys to pump your tanks. First come first served, but there is plenty of room. Also of an evening some of the folks will pull up stakes and come up to the grounds to get water. There are showers in the school for you to use.\r\n\r\nCome to the show any time, you can come for the day or the whole week. We will have 24hr patrols beginning on July the 5th, so if you want to start bringing stuff in the weekend before the show, come on down.\r\n\r\nDick Fourez is President and head of security, his motor home is parked west of the club hall. I will be there beginning on Monday the 7th so look me up. I drive a green Kawasaki Mule.\n\n[Edited on 11-6-2003 by John (C-IL)]','',0,'','30ey23w3',1,0,'',7,0,0),(885,243,2,233,0,'209.99.35.138',1055214825,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Mike Green','Timing of a 18 27 hart parr','I have a 18 27 row crop that I rescued after being abandoned in the field in 1941 or 1942.  I have been going thru the engine and installed the governor and magneto when I realized the governor had an impulse device which I am sure means it must be timed with the camshaft gear.  There are no markings on the governor gear that I can find for timing.  Can anyone tell me how to time it.  Also I noticed the shaft on the governor has space and keyways for two gears. The gear that meshes with the camshaft gear is within the front cover.  The second space( and keyway) on the shaft would be outside the engine front  cover under a separate cover that covers the nut on the end of the shaft.  Is there something missing or is there nothing in this second position?','',0,'','azu3evvl',1,0,'',233,0,0),(886,242,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1055288078,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','I have a 1938 Oliver 70 RC that I will be taking to National Threshers Reunion and using it to power my 24 inch Meadows Grist mill.    I would like to go to Penfield and possibly bring the tractor.  would there be any interest in the mill too as a working display?   I may not be able to be there for the whole show','',0,'','qga0qtmn',1,0,'',188,0,0),(887,242,1,5,0,'216.166.192.116',1055291149,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Grist mill','KM- I, for one, enjoy seeing tractors being used as working displays when I visit any tractor show, no matter how large or small the show. I think it adds to my interest of that particular tractor as a historical piece of equipment when I can see that it&#039;s still able to perform tasks that it was intended to do. Don&#039;t get me wrong, a &amp;quot;trailer queen&amp;quot; will catch my eye also, thinking of the endless hours it takes to restore one to &amp;quot;showroom&amp;quot; condition, but I like WORKING tractors. That&#039;s what they were made for. That&#039;s my opinion. Others may disagree, but it&#039;s a free country! I say BRING the mill. Jim Thurnau','',0,'','1p0pgx4w',1,0,'',5,0,0),(888,242,1,7,0,'63.250.73.168',1055301146,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Grist Mill','KM, Bring the mill. Our show is all about the work these tractors did and still do. There is plenty of room that we can set you up. One of the more unusual displays we have had the last 2 years is a guy with a rock crusher, just plain unbelievable. At our show, the more action there is the more fun we all have. John  &amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3bec6b8/bc/2002+Historic+Farm+Days/Rock+Crusher+2.jpg?bcxB25.AlNzOev5R&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\r\n\r\n[Edited on 11-6-2003 by John (C-IL)]\n\n[Edited on 11-6-2003 by John (C-IL)]','',0,'','mmpf42rf',1,0,'',7,0,0),(889,244,1,234,0,'151.199.44.217',1055307121,1,0,1,1,1,0,'jd9750','Oliver  OC-18','Has anyone ever seen one?','',0,'','19873z34',1,0,'',234,0,0),(890,242,1,5,0,'216.166.193.251',1055308690,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','rock crusher','John, yes, rock crushers are awsome! I enjoy seeing displays that are not found at every show, such as rock crushing, using a tractor to run a thickness planer after the boards come off the sawmill, etc.  Jim Thurnau','',0,'','2zin4mi7',1,0,'',5,0,0),(891,245,1,181,0,'128.104.198.49',1055347699,1,0,1,0,1,0,'TJM','advice wanted - hydraulic for 77','I have an Oliver 77 with no hydraulic system and would like any suggestions for putting one on.  I would use it to lift a mower, etc.  Don&#039;t anticipate \r\nputting a loader on it.  It has power steering that my Dad had installed about 1960 \r\nwith a pump driven by the generator belt.  I assume this is not powerful enough to \r\nlift things also.  Hydra-lectric (putting on a rebuilt unit to replace the mechanical \r\ncultivator lift) may be more trouble than it&#039;s worth but what&#039;s your thought on that?  \r\nAlso I&#039;ve heard you can put a pump in front of the engine where the crank goes in.  \r\nOther good options?  Thanks.','',0,'','nqwpgfov',1,0,'',181,0,0),(892,246,1,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1055349164,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Trading Post at the HPOCA Summer Show','One of the things I have neglected to tell you about is the &amp;quot;Trading Post&amp;quot; during the show in Penfield. Basically if you have something to sell you drop it off at the trading post and register with the proprietor who takes care of everything for you. You set the price, which you can change at any time, and then enjoy the show. I am going to have an Oliver 60RC and an Oliver Superior grain drill and possibly an AC WC on the trading post. The trading post is open to everyone and commission is 10% on small items and 5% on tractors. Everything from manuals to tractors and household primitives and antiques are for sale. Last year the trading post handle over $40,000 in sales and everyone had a blast. Let me know if I can answer any questions.  <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->\r\n&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3bec6b8/bc/2002+Historic+Farm+Days/Trading+Post+2.jpg?bci715.AlZf.kBKn&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\r\n[Edited on 11-6-2003 by John (C-IL)]\n\n[Edited on 11-6-2003 by John (C-IL)]','',0,'','zweg6ku1',1,0,'',7,0,0),(893,244,1,96,0,'216.201.29.167',1055368352,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','OC-18','Yes: Now what is the question','',0,'','1o35v28l',1,0,'',96,0,0),(894,244,1,67,0,'64.6.2.154',1055381414,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','They are not real common here in Illinois, but I can think of at least 4 that come to mind which are owned by other collectors.  What are you interested in?','',0,'','1s45ux84',1,0,'',67,0,0),(895,245,1,67,0,'64.6.2.154',1055381519,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Any of the ideas that you have mentioned would work ok, but I would find a good used or rebuilt factory unit to replace the cultivator lift.  It only takes about an hour to do the change over, and works fine.','',0,'','ulk7sjor',1,0,'',67,0,0),(896,242,1,67,0,'64.6.2.154',1055381704,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Looking forward to the show, it should be a great one.  We are working on getting some special tractors to the show that many may have not seen before.  It looks like we will have a Hart Parr 30-60, and a Nichols &amp;amp; Shepard tractor, possibly others.  Should be a great time!  Terry.','',0,'','2p4v2d3f',1,0,'',67,0,0),(897,243,2,67,0,'64.6.2.154',1055381969,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Its been a while, but I believe that the 18-27 is timed just like the 80.  There is an inspection plate on the bell housing which will swing open and expose the fly wheel.  The flywheel is marked with a timing mark which is firing position for #1 cylinder.  Make sure #1 is on compression stroke.  Line up the mag for firing position for #1 cylinder and install.  The second spot on the governor shaft is to install the pulley to drive the generator, if the optional lights are installed.  Hope this helps, or e-mail if any questions.  Terry.','',0,'','nnd65z1n',1,0,'',67,0,0),(898,245,1,5,0,'216.166.193.70',1055383662,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','hydraulics','TJM- I think you already are headed in the right direction, knowing you want and will probably use an Oliver hyd system. A good #3 Hydra-lectric unit would be the ultimate. Unless you NEED the &amp;quot;lectric&amp;quot; aspect of the unit, just the hydraulic unit itself would be good enough. Non-electric units may be easier to find and less expensive,MAYBE. Also, the first hydraulic units did not have a filter on them. Someone told me that even with a filter not all the oil passes through the filter every time, but I&#039;d still rather have a filter. Just my opinion. Jim thurnau','',0,'','eo5e0x98',1,0,'',5,0,0),(899,246,1,5,0,'216.166.193.70',1055384145,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Trading post','John, I like the idea of being able to see the show and sell your items at the same time. I was just wondering if there are spaces to rent and sell items yourself, or if the Trading Post is the only option? Jim','',0,'','1auuconr',1,0,'',5,0,0),(900,246,1,7,0,'152.163.252.199',1055385347,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Vendor spaces','There are 4 ways to have vendor spaces. The first way is to get space from HPOCA, these are for Oliver type stuff and the details for that are in the back cover of the latest magazine. We have 3 categories of vendors, ag related, flea market, and parts vendors. Kelly Birkey 217-379-3909 handles ag related and has a few spaces left. Joann Warner 217-643-7916 has the fleas. Mark Wood 217-694-4735 has the parts vendors. I know that there is quite a bit of space left in the last two groups, but Kelly is nearly sold out. If I can help more, let me know.','',0,'','27kd9hoy',1,0,'',7,0,0),(901,245,1,96,0,'216.201.29.33',1055440486,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Hydraulic unit','Go with the Group 3. Now what nobody has told you, if your mechanical lift still works then you have a long imput shaft in the transmission and you will either need to saw it off or find a short shaft. Also the 77 &amp;amp; 88 take the same shaft. Questions send me a U2U','',0,'','hai924qv',1,0,'',96,0,0),(902,243,2,96,0,'216.201.29.191',1055456402,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','18-27 (Standard Rowcrop)','Iwas doing some other work and I checked the shop manual. There are two pages in there on the timing of the 80 and two more pages on the timing of the 18-27/18-28 tractors. According to the book the one you are working on has only one timing mark(TDC) and the impulse for those Bosch mags is different. Send me an e-mail and I will photo copy those two or four pages for you.','',0,'','ujtcwg24',1,0,'',96,0,0),(903,247,1,235,0,'64.179.13.117',1055465213,1,0,1,1,1,0,'chev2500hd','Oliver 88 Diesel Injector Pump','Are there any Diesel shops out there that offer a quality diesel injector pump rebuild or selling any quality rebuilt injector pumps for an oliver 88? My local diesel shop says that anyone claiming to have the capability to rebuild the American Bosch injector pumps are using &amp;quot;homemade&amp;quot; parts that do not last. Your help is greatly appreciated.','',0,'','t4dz81u9',1,0,'',235,0,0),(904,247,1,35,0,'67.34.169.76',1055470521,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','88 injector','Welcome to the forum. You do not indicate where you are located but one of the best service companies is Dixie Diesel Services In. located in Columbia, TN. This company is well known throughout the southeast. Their number is 931-381-1647 or 800-523-4621. I feel that these people can help.','',0,'','3kfpazb9',1,0,'',35,0,0),(905,247,1,96,0,'216.201.29.220',1055471122,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','PSB Pump','AmBac does not furnish exchange heads for your pump. The PSB pump is probably the most simple pump put on a farm tractor. What is the problem with your pump? Does you engine run?','',0,'','1hyjuu7n',1,0,'',96,0,0),(906,248,3,7,0,'205.188.209.12',1055472098,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','2003 Show committee meeting June 22nd','Don Barnett has anounced a meeting of the HPOCA, Hartland and Midwest chapters, I&amp;amp;I and any other interested parties to be held June 22nd, 1:30PM at the I&amp;amp;I show Grounds in Penfield. There will be a mailing monday with more details, but I wanted to get out the notice as quickly as possible. Please let your friends without internet service know when you visit with them.','',0,'','3srs08p4',1,0,'',7,0,0),(907,247,1,235,0,'208.1.215.102',1055507474,1,0,1,1,1,0,'chev2500hd','Oliver 88 Diesel Injector Pump','I am not sure if I have a problem yet. I do not have the tractor completely back together but I just want to know what my options are if the injector pump does not function properly. I put new piston rings in, had the head done and had the injectors rebuilt and the diesel shop that did the injectors said that they were pretty bad in leaking out the return line. They said that when they tighten the injectors up the injector pump my not be able to generate enough pressure and that there is no fixing to the pump itself if I run into that situtation. So I am wondering what other guys are doing because there are a fair amount of these pumps out there.  I live in central New York. Thanks','',0,'','1fzml8me',1,0,'',235,0,0),(908,247,1,96,0,'216.201.29.88',1055525238,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','88 Diesel','Is this a Fleetline 88 or a Super 88? How did they tighten the injectors up? If you have a lot of return leakage the valve in the tip is worn. You replace the two as they are matched parts. Make sure you change the filter especially if it is a fleetline. If you have the pump off be careful when you time it as the pump drive shaft also runs crankshaft speed. You need to check the timing mark on the quill shaft also.','',0,'','3lh4i1mx',1,0,'',96,0,0),(909,242,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1055557091,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','Oliver 70RC and meadows mill','<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/GristMill/\">http://www.maplenet.net/~kamiller/Oliver70/GristMill/</a><!-- m -->\r\nhere is a link to a few pictures of the tractor and mill.  Took these this afternoon while getting everything adjusted and ready for the shows.\r\nIf everything goes as planned I hope  to have it at Penfield for 2 days.','',0,'','md8nxbi5',1,0,'',188,0,0),(910,242,1,5,0,'216.166.192.237',1055558971,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','grist mill','KM- nice looking mill and tractor. What year is the tractor and what rim is on the rear? It looks like they have lock rings. oleblu','',0,'','qxu3j4f8',1,0,'',5,0,0),(911,242,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1055586490,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','it is a 1938 tractor.  the rims are 36 inch split rims.  the ring is solid.    mounting those tires was a real b****. I know Miller Tire will agree with that.','',0,'','20s2cj6t',1,0,'',188,0,0),(912,249,1,236,0,'216.77.201.218',1055595830,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Glen Labatut','OC-3, OC-4 people in Wash, Oregon or Idaho','Interested in talking to people in these three states, that want to sell nice machines or have solid leads on knowing who or where to acquire these machines from, email <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:SHELLY.GLEN@att.net\">SHELLY.GLEN@att.net</a><!-- e --> or 225-627-6571 if you have photos of crawlers to sell email them,thanks very much, Glen\n\n[Edited on 6-14-2003 by Glen Labatut]','',0,'','22cwp2fl',1,0,'',236,0,0),(913,250,4,98,0,'209.51.206.63',1055602328,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','BGS-H','I have a BGS-H serial #11C110. I was wanting to know if anyone could tell me how many were built for hillside . At least that is what I was told the H ment. And is there a way to trace the history of it ?:D','',0,'','1wf33a4w',1,0,'',98,0,0),(914,251,3,98,0,'209.51.206.63',1055602991,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','HPOCA membership','Does the HPOCA ever plan to offer again the one payment plan for life time membership? I did not have the money the first time . <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','1lzifi9t',1,0,'',98,0,0),(915,251,3,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055696517,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','No, there is no such plan in effect, nor has there been any plan to develop this option. Several years ago I mentioned developing this type of plan, at that time the President had no interest in doing so. What you bring up is a complicated issue, which must address difficult questions, such as what the future holds, costs, and investment. I suppose if someone wanted to do something like that, they could establish a trust fund of their own, with the benefactor being HPOCA. Then have the trustee send dues automatically every year or two years. You would need to contact your banker, or a good trust company to do this, as HPOCA is not in this type of business.','',0,'','3d9i6lrt',1,0,'',47,0,0),(916,238,3,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055697859,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Frank,\r\nI guess if they let hillbillies in they probably would let a Tennessean in, too! I&#039;ll be at the show, probably a day or so early, as I am slated to hunt down a couple of surprise exhibits, but don&#039;t tell anybody, or they won&#039;t be a surprise! Only thing I can tell you at this time is they are really, really big, and heavy. Hope Illinois will issue permits. I&#039;ve been working with Terry on this, and it is being kept a mystery, if you want to know what the mystery is, you will just have to come to the show. Did Jackson get over the storm? I ran thru 3 of those things between Franklin, KY and Jackson that night, then sat at Loves the next evening and watched several more pass thru to the north of 40. Ormet, where I was hauling to was open for unloading but that was all, no phone or electric, lucky for me, one of our company trucks was there and had satellite communications. So, I was able to find freight, and get out of town.','',0,'','1sbrdp9p',1,0,'',47,0,0),(917,243,2,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055698464,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Oh gosh, I&#039;ve run into this before. Let&#039;s see, as I recall there is a mark on the timing gear, I was working on one of the first ones produced, and I think there was something strange about it, different from later models. I really need to have your serial #, that way I won&#039;t tell you something that will get you hurt. The first ones are much more difficult and complicated, compared to the later ones.','',0,'','375spumr',1,0,'',47,0,0),(918,221,2,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055698654,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Call Jim Kline, Ph 937-981-3985.','',0,'','31fc7m3o',1,0,'',47,0,0),(919,250,4,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055699112,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','An &#039;H&#039; does designate a hillside option. Which means basically your 1948 tractor was setup in a wider track gauge. I can find no record that would distinguish which tractors were produced with or without this option.','',0,'','ex1pbtg6',1,0,'',47,0,0),(920,247,1,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055700349,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','It sounds to me like you might not have a problem. I suggest you go to a different shop, have a local machinery dealer recommend one. It appears the shop you spoke to doesn&#039;t have much interest in helping you. Find one that has an older technician, he might be interested in older equipment, have him bench test your pump and injectors before you think of doing any repairs. It might be in perfect condition!','',0,'','35q5gcya',1,0,'',47,0,0),(921,244,1,47,0,'67.241.135.108',1055700615,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Yep, real common tractor! Not like 8N Fords, but they are still around.','',0,'','15xmwewl',1,0,'',47,0,0),(922,237,1,47,0,'65.238.36.197',1055723485,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I am address a possible solution in a week or so. In all honesty you will probably need to pull the sleeves to do it right, but, there is an old cleaning procedure, not enough time now, I gotta be in Atlanta in the morning. I did try to send earlier, but the electric went off.','',0,'','w32anar2',1,0,'',47,0,0),(923,250,4,96,0,'216.201.29.211',1055727007,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','BGSH','What is the difference between a BG and a BGS crawler?','',0,'','3jcxzruv',1,0,'',96,0,0),(924,237,1,96,0,'216.201.29.211',1055727410,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','77 Sleeves','I don&#039;t know what you intend to do with the tractor, but if you plan on keeping it for a period of years so to speak pull the sleeves, clean the block, put new O-rings on the sleeves and you will know that you are not likely to have an o-ring leak and have coolant in the oil in the near future.','',0,'','3ucwehce',1,0,'',96,0,0),(925,238,3,5,0,'216.166.193.119',1055731600,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Permit','Andy, are you going to get a permit for Iowa too or just wing it? LOL  See you at the show. oleblu','',0,'','22xf338o',1,0,'',5,0,0),(926,252,1,218,0,'205.188.208.172',1055784872,1,0,1,1,1,0,'colo80','Oliver 99','My cousin just bought an Oliver 99 4 cylinder gas, around a 1950 I think. The manifold is rotted out. Does anyone have a good used one they would sell? Thanks:D','',0,'','1fd55ea2',1,0,'',218,0,0),(927,253,1,140,0,'216.95.136.181',1055810057,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverorchard','Oliver Equipment','Does anyone know where I can find equipment that I can pull behind my 77? I am interested in the equipment used for peanuts and cotton. Hopefully the equipment will be transportable in a pickup or small trailer.  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','3nionhrs',1,0,'',140,0,0),(928,252,1,67,0,'64.6.2.51',1055810232,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','This is a very common problem, so finding a good used one is next to impossible.  There are very good quality reproduction manifolds being made by Rosewood Machine, in Rosewood, OH.  They are about $500, plus shipping.  hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'','1sbf75y3',1,0,'',67,0,0),(929,251,3,98,0,'209.51.206.223',1055881674,1,0,1,1,1,0,'cletrac1','Dues','After I first joined the HPOCA they offered a lifetime for $500.00 . \r\nTo get things rolling I did not have it then .','',0,'','1ypg5dj4',1,0,'',98,0,0),(930,254,1,104,0,'67.195.106.165',1055986018,1,0,1,1,1,0,'breesetr','Oliver 70 alignment','Finishing the restoration of an Oliver 70 RC, 1946.  Been pretty straight forward so far.  When removed engine clutch housing noted there were several shims on each side of clutch housing and under the front pedestal of the motor.  Suppose for allignment of stub shaft between clutch and transmission.  Does any one know a good meathod to align this, and how critical is it.  Plan to use the tractor a good bit for years to come.','',0,'','16xji0o6',1,0,'',104,0,0),(931,255,1,240,0,'66.202.112.14',1055991483,1,0,1,0,1,0,'red86','Model 62-W Baler','I have a model 62-W wire baler and the cutters seem to be to dull. Is there a way I can sharpen them or can anybody tell me where I could buy new ones and possibly where I might find a manual for this thing?','',0,'','2h0hej44',1,0,'',240,0,0),(932,199,1,242,0,'162.84.96.86',1056052034,1,0,1,1,1,0,'boughton','Loader Availability','Is your loader still available? Please e-mail me at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:bboughton@supremeblock.com\">bboughton@supremeblock.com</a><!-- e -->. Thanks.','',0,'','6wkz7csh',1,0,'',242,0,0),(933,254,1,243,0,'209.193.68.178',1056081073,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dwayne gould','','I am going to start restoring my 1942 70 later this summer and glad to hear about this little thing, any other little things that you ran into that would be good to know ahead of time?       \r\n                          dwayne','',0,'','2i8x7m80',1,0,'',243,0,0),(934,256,1,244,0,'65.164.71.136',1056112076,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bob A.','Tires and Wheels for sale','I have a pair of 12.6x 26 tires mounted on what I believe are Oliver 55 wheels. The tires are six ply Goodyear, about 50% tread left. They are road worn and should really dig for the light tractor pullers out there. They have some small cracks in them, nothing major that I have seen or they would be brush burning tires and not for sale. Being six ply, they should last for a long time. The wheels they are mounted on are in decent shape, with the one apparently  being on the ground for a while because it is rusted on the lip. but still good enough to use. They are not loaded. I will not sell just one or break them down and sell the tires and wheels separately. I live in N/W Pa. about half way between Pittsburgh and Erie. Anyone interested I have to have $100.00 for them and I can&#039;t negotiate the price because two of us bought a parts tractor and they were on it and the other owner set the price, not me. It wasn&#039;t an Oliver tractor, so that is all I have that is green. Anyone interested please contact me at: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rkk@certainty.net\">rkk@certainty.net</a><!-- e -->\r\n                 Thank You Very Much.\r\n                 Bob A.','',0,'','21knpmre',1,0,'',244,0,0),(935,250,4,47,0,'67.241.135.234',1056162946,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','The &#039;S&#039; designates special equipment, such as a starter, battery, and generator package, sometimes an extra gear, possibly lights, but lights were most often installed by the dealer.','',0,'','25rv7z3w',1,0,'',47,0,0),(936,254,1,47,0,'67.241.135.234',1056163429,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I don&#039;t know about the clutch housing, never been there. The shims under the front motor mount is used to align the crank with the crankshaft. I have one myself that I need to shim up, but, I&#039;ve just been using the electric start.','',0,'','10zwr6g9',1,0,'',47,0,0),(937,237,1,47,0,'67.241.135.234',1056164306,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','You can dissolve all the soda ash that you can in 5 gallons of boiling water. Put 5 gallons of water in your still, make sure to plug the slop arm first. Then build a fire under the still, when the water comes to a rolling boil, start dumping in soda ash, and stirring with your stir stick. When soda ash comes out on your stir stick as you check it, that is good enough. Then put a bucket under the slop arm, and pull the plug out, drain the still into buckets, dump the buckets into your radiator. Then run the tractor for 20 hours, drain, flush, and fill with water. I think you will end up pulling the sleeves though. Make sure to clean your still real good, &#039;cause a little soda ash will make some pop skull whiskey for sure, but it does hold a good bead.','',0,'','14iqrjil',1,0,'',47,0,0),(938,251,3,47,0,'67.241.135.234',1056164906,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I have never heard of this, who told you about it? I make all the membership meetings, and most of the board meetings, I have never heard of such an incentive. As a matter of fact, in one meeting, some were upset because some members were renewed beyond their 2 year renewal. Even if we did have a paid up for life membership, it probably wouldn&#039;t be one sum, but graduated accounting for age. I think somebody is pulling your leg.','',0,'','22zi87rz',1,0,'',47,0,0),(939,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.249',1056198467,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I don&#039;t know why I would need to permit for Iowa, I am coming from WV. Perhaps Missouri, or Minnesota, but not Iowa, though I might go to Iowa while I am there, I&#039;m trying to get a set of tracks for my DDH that are in Iowa, if I can make that work I will bring the old beast with me, and change the tracks out in Penfield. The tracks that are on it are junk, it will be difficult to load it with them. If I can&#039;t get those tracks the DDH stays at home. No, I won&#039;t give any hints about what I am up to, if you want to find out, come to the show!!! I understand they need big guys to tell folks where to park their tractors, any truth to that?','',0,'','38laay4v',1,0,'',47,0,0),(940,231,1,245,0,'169.207.45.104',1056203746,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Nuge','','look at page 3-the identical topic exists','',0,'','2qf6myw2',1,0,'',245,0,0),(941,245,1,245,0,'169.207.45.104',1056204438,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Nuge','','If a hydraulic system was found on an 88 would it have the short shaft and bolt right onto a 77? How much trouble is the shaft R&amp;amp;R? Is it easier to cut the shaft? Thanks','',0,'','31xz92y9',1,0,'',245,0,0),(942,245,1,96,0,'216.201.29.60',1056210349,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Hydraulic lines','Yes an 88 and 77 use the same hydraulic units. Look at the front of the shaft. The splines wear in the coupler. If the tractor does not have the gear box for the belt pulley, you change the shaft in 10 minutes. That is with the hydraulic off. If you are planning on doing that put new seals and bearings in the pump while you have the unit out. Change the filter too.','',0,'','2u7sxdcv',1,0,'',96,0,0),(943,257,1,1,0,'66.82.176.119',1056228643,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Melensdad','Super 55 Diesel FOR SALE','I have a pretty nice 1956 Diesel Super 55 for sale.  Brand new Firestone front tires.  Wheels painted red, body green approx 3 or 4 years ago.  Most of the sheet metal is in good condition, grill was replaced. This was a working tractor that was made pretty and works.  Guages are new reproduction Oliver, but not all are hooked up.  Lights work, but are aftermarket.  We use it occasionally for mowing, but usually for pulling kids around in a wagon while we wave at the neighbors.  The muffler and the air filter have been replaced and are not accurate for the model.  Older battery so it usually starts up but sometimes needs a jump if it has been sitting a while.  I have been to shows and seen better and I have also seen worse tractors on display.  Looks good and works.  Would be a nice tractor for anyone who wants a working utility tractor that doesn&#039;t need to be worked on a lot, or for someone who wants to restore a tractor this one already looks good.\r\n\r\nOld up Howse deck goes with the tractor, it needs blades sharpened and TLC.  If you are serious I can email you pictures.  Asking $3575.00 email me with questions.  Located in N.W. Indiana about 65 miles Southeast of Chicago.','',0,'','107xyt35',1,0,'',1,0,0),(944,109,1,1,0,'66.82.176.119',1056229338,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Melensdad','Paint em Red','I have a 56 and painted them red.  I knew green was the &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; color, but red looks so much better (IMHO).\r\n\r\nHowever, I dug around and did find some evidence that there might have been some red wheeled 56&#039;s at the end of the production year.  Nobody has been able to prove or disprove that, but its what I&#039;ve been told more than once.  Unless you plan on putting your tractor in a museum, you might as well paint it the way you like it, your the one who has to live with it.','',0,'','1juzlgj5',1,0,'',1,0,0),(945,58,1,221,0,'64.231.58.42',1056238832,1,0,1,1,1,1,'New_2_Oliver','Sorry','My appologies for starting another thread.  I thought I could just add my story to this one and bring it back to the top.\r\n\r\n\r\nI had never had anything to do with Olivers until I started dating my now wife when I was a teenager. My family farmed but we had only MF, Case and International and all fairly new.\r\n\r\nI started helping my father inlaw and he has an Oliver 77 RC that he used on the farm. Well the first time I heard that 6 cylinder run and load up a little I was hooked!! That was the best sounding tractor I had ever heard and then I learned about the dual range transmission and the independant PTO and couldn&#039;t believe that Oliver didn&#039;t own the tractor market in the early years. \r\n\r\nWell since that day I have learned every thing I could about the differnt models and saw many more olivers and heard many more of those great 6 cylinders (including my father inlaws Cockshutt 70). And now after quite a bit of looking I own my own little Oliver in Canadian clothes, a Cockshutt 60. It isn&#039;t a 6 cylinder but I vow that my next Oliver will be','',0,'','cpx4pse9',1,0,'',221,0,0),(946,238,3,7,0,'205.188.209.16',1056243435,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Rumors','and other lies that I have heard tell me that Bill Meeker is the master tractor parker. If he ain&#039;t big enough we&#039;ll draft somebody!:D','',0,'','2drbgixy',1,0,'',7,0,0),(947,238,3,5,0,'216.166.193.156',1056247262,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Mr. Meeker','While he may be older and wiser and have more tractors than I have, I&#039;m probably slightly taller and heaver...and can change tires WAYYY faster than he can...so there! oleblu   P.S. Andy, you sure you don&#039;t want a permit for Iowa?','',0,'','1gdmp3m7',1,0,'',5,0,0),(948,258,3,124,0,'12.150.142.203',1056251392,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','2003 Summer Show Banquet','Mailed my banquet reservations at the first of June.  Havne&#039;t heard anything yet.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Maybe lost in the mail?  Who do I contact.\r\nGreg Davis','',0,'','3mt3y88r',1,0,'',124,0,0),(949,258,3,7,0,'205.188.209.16',1056282427,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Don Barnett','is taking care of the banquet arrangeements, but Ed Heisner is where you should have mailed your reservations. We are meeting today in Penfield, If Ed is there I&#039;ll ask. Not sure that there is any plan to contact you other than pick up your tickets at the Oliver tent at the show. John','',0,'','ogxgw3mx',1,0,'',7,0,0),(950,228,1,248,0,'65.172.143.67',1056285934,1,0,1,1,1,1,'howster the one','','oliverorchard, did you get your reel fixed/ i think cucumber would be good lumber for weather and strength','',0,'','e78f2ovs',1,0,'',248,0,0),(951,259,1,1,0,'66.82.176.119',1056291775,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Melensdad','Oliver + Cockshutt at Crown Point, IN in July','July 11 &amp;amp; 12 at the Lake County Fairgrounds in Crown Point, Indiana there is a power and steam show.  This year the show is featuring Oliver &amp;amp; Cockshutt.\r\n\r\nCrown Point is in the Northwest corner of Indiana about an hour southeast of Chicago.','',0,'','3fd5s04o',1,0,'',1,0,0),(952,260,1,248,0,'65.172.143.106',1056293782,1,0,1,1,1,1,'howster the one','win an 880','check this out, krvn farm radio is going to give away an Oliver\r\n[url:30rznnst]http&#58;//www&#46;krvn&#46;net/hostedsites/greenacres/[/url:30rznnst]','',0,'EA==','30rznnst',1,0,'',248,0,0),(953,258,3,124,0,'12.150.142.236',1056321511,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Oliver88','','Thanks,\r\n     Check I sent hasn&#039;t cleared the bank yet.  Just wondering.\r\nGreg','',0,'EA==','19eg67vr',1,0,'',124,0,0),(954,261,1,218,0,'152.163.252.39',1056339312,1,0,1,1,1,0,'colo80','oliver 80 radiator cap','I am very much in need of a radiator cap for my 80 oliver, please help:)','',0,'EA==','ai9mjfg9',1,0,'',218,0,0),(955,258,3,35,0,'65.82.172.197',1056386734,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','banquet tickets','Do you have to reserve tickets early or can you wait until arrival on the 10th? If we have to buy in advance how much and where do we send money? <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( --> I am ashamed to admit this but I misplaced my last magazine issue)','',0,'EA==','193h0g7l',1,0,'',35,0,0),(956,258,3,7,0,'63.250.73.144',1056408814,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Hurry to make reservations','Reservation deadline is June 28th, a call may help get you a spot before your check arrives. Make Checks payable to HPOCA. Adults: $25. 12 &amp;amp; Under $13.\r\n\r\nSend reservations to;\r\n\r\nEd Heisner\r\n64 Wilshire Dr.\r\nFairview Heights, IL 62208\r\n\r\nAs I said, a phone call might be a good idea:\r\n(618)397-8135\r\n\r\nBTW, the banquet is in URBANA, not RANTOUL as the magazine said.\r\n\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.antiquefarm.org\">http://www.antiquefarm.org</a><!-- m -->','',0,'EA==','3x368bww',1,0,'',7,0,0),(957,258,3,67,0,'64.6.2.43',1056498259,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Once received, your reservation is recorded, and tickets will be given out when you register at the HPOCA table at the show.  No tickets are mailed out ahead of time, but will be ready for you when you arrive.  It sometimes takes a while for the checks to clear after going through the chapter for reservations, and then being forwarded to the HPOCA treasurer for deposit.  Hope this helps to explain the process, Terry.','',0,'EA==','2cu787lr',1,0,'',67,0,0),(958,238,3,67,0,'64.6.2.43',1056498451,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','My understanding is that no permits are needed, just drive fast and deny everything. (unless a permit is needed for a west virginian to be in illinois?)  This line is getting pretty deep, so I will stop there.  See all of you at the show, and hope to talk to you over a cold one.  terry.','',0,'EA==','d1fj79dr',1,0,'',67,0,0),(959,261,1,67,0,'64.6.2.43',1056498566,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Terry','','Please check your magazine, but I think that Bill Campbell has those for sale.  Also Dave Carey, <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:hartparr@epix.net\">hartparr@epix.net</a><!-- e -->.  Hope this helps, Terry.','',0,'EA==','23c1ibxh',1,0,'',67,0,0),(960,262,1,249,0,'216.93.124.242',1056571298,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bryan in Michigan','Threshing machines','I am looking for a serial number list so that I can determine the year for several Oliver Nichols &amp;amp;  Shepherd Red River Special threshing machines. If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated.','',0,'EA==','lgvi9ufd',1,0,'',249,0,0),(961,262,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1056573808,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','I sent you a u2u message.   I have a book that has the numbers and may be able to help you.\r\nKeith','',0,'EA==','wdav8nvp',1,0,'',188,0,0),(962,263,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1056592111,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','National Threshers Reunion','If anyone from HPOCA is at NTR this weekend look me up.   I will be there with the Oliver 70 and Williams Grist mill. \r\nnext show it will be at is Penfield.','',0,'EA==','c1izjyy8',1,0,'',188,0,0),(963,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.15',1056606550,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Yeah Terry,\r\nBut at least us West Virginians didn&#039;t cut off our long leg like those who moved to Illinois!!! Y&#039;all would look real funny walkin&#039; around a hillside!!! And maybe, if you did find a still, you would have a really hard time standing upright. Well, I guess tomorrow will be a mystery solving day for me. Yesterday my truck started acting real strange, blowing steam out the stacks and all that stuff. Now everybody knows that I like to mess around with steam engines, but that Detroit is supposed to be DIESEL, it is NOT supposed to make steam. Maybe I have found a new hybrid! In the morning I will have to drain the oil and screen it to see if something similar to a hand grenade went off inside, I think probably it blew a piston, and busted a liner, if so, this weekend will be in-frame time, then it will run really, really fast!!! Well, 811,000 miles, I guess that is getting the best out of the engine.\r\nHey oleblu,\r\nI don&#039;t need any sort of Iowa permit, every time I go to Iowa, Sparky makes me haul John Deere parts to Alabama. I&#039;ll tell you what JD&#039;s in Alabama are good for sometime, just not here!','',0,'EA==','35qbjidr',1,0,'',47,0,0),(964,238,3,5,0,'216.166.192.114',1056628365,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','JD&#039;s','I can only imagine what JD&#039;s are good for in Alabama. If you are hauling JD parts you don&#039;t need a permit, just a TARP to hide them under. I&#039;ll see you at the show. oleblu','',0,'EA==','2ybmv6kd',1,0,'',5,0,0),(965,254,1,156,0,'129.186.99.233',1056659957,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Kevin Cordray','','I removed the engine and clutch housing from my 70 and found that when i put it back in the shaft coming from the engine and the shaft coming from the tranny wouldn&#039;t run true together unless i got all the shims back in.  This is a little tricky buy if you take a pry bar and put it in between the clutch housing and engine bay you can flex everything enough to get them in place.  Also, I used a dial indicator and checked the side to side and up and down movement of the shaft coming out of the clutch housing to make sure everything was within specifications and it was.  So, yes it is important to get all the shims back in that were there originally.  Hope this helps.','',0,'EA==','1wgygq66',1,0,'',156,0,0),(966,264,1,96,0,'216.201.29.30',1056672489,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Picture','Years ago there was a picture that Oliver used for  that showed the first Oliver 70 and Mr Niebal, the owner. Anyone know where one of those pictures is so a copy could be made. Since Mr Niebal was from Napoleon Ohio we would like to display one at the 150th fair in Napoloen this summer.','',0,'EA==','2sljrzo2',1,0,'',96,0,0),(967,265,1,140,0,'216.95.136.129',1056673155,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oliverorchard','Oliver Equipment','Looking for Oliver equipment to pull behind my 66 and 77. Thanks','',0,'EA==','2rioy7hw',1,0,'',140,0,0),(968,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.149',1056684576,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Well Frank,\r\nI think that might be an OK idea, but I would imagine I know most of those who post, well, there is one major exception, that guy who calls himself &#039;Terry&#039;, he must be a little skinny guy from Arkansas, Abingdon, Arkansas!!!!','',0,'EA==','d4ck3rgt',1,0,'',47,0,0),(969,238,3,65,0,'216.183.132.150',1056810899,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','Meeting place???','Out of all this has a meeting place / time been  decieded on? I&#039;m coming from ontario canada , I also know super 55 is coming from British columbia canada is there a web head meeting place ????  Maybe I&#039;ve met some of you people at winter gettogethers but can&#039;t put web name to a face !!! thanks Grant Thede','',0,'EA==','qnrgyc7x',1,0,'',65,0,0),(970,266,3,7,0,'152.163.195.181',1056853301,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','HPOCA Show contact','Got home tonight and had a phone message from someone that wants me to return his call. I would be happy to, but I can&#039;t positively make out his name or his phone number. Best I can do, May or Larry Archer, # is 618-664-245?. I did a search in the white pages for the name and a reverse number lookup that puts the phone in Greenville, IL. Maybe one of you Hartland guys recognize it from the clues I have. I hate to disappoint the guy, but I tried the numbers I had and confused a lot of people. John','',0,'EA==','2tz6uw0s',1,0,'',7,0,0),(971,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.135',1056896627,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Grant,\r\nHow are you doing? On this forum not only is information provided, but we can have some fun also. Just because there is a lot of teasing between old or new friends does not mean we aren&#039;t serious about what we are doing. It is a way to humor ourselves. I like it when someone makes jokes about me, then I know that I am well liked. So, if this takes up some space on the website, it is a good investment. I think Frank does have a good idea, just like at Wentzville, we saw each other several times, but we were both too busy doing other things to stop and chat. Maybe Franks meeting will provide some extra time to talk, just so long as it is informal.','',0,'EA==','1h2304bn',1,0,'',47,0,0),(972,267,3,35,0,'65.82.172.197',1056901572,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','Toy Farmer Article','I was very pleased to read the article about our editor Sherry Schaefer (another Oliver user) that appeared in the July issue of TOY FARMER. An article such as this in a magazine with a circulation in the thousands can be a great service to our organization. The article was well written and informative. I feel to be recognized by a large magazine such as TOY FARMER is an honor and is sure great publicity. Keep up the good work Sherry.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'EA==','n1v9ge26',1,0,'',35,0,0),(973,263,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1056935417,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','we had a good time at National Threshers Reunion.   enjoyed meeting John Schwiebert, Bryan in Michigan, and others.   we ground about 200 lbs of corn in the mill.  \r\nnow looking forward to Penfield.','',0,'EA==','2cm88h23',1,0,'',188,0,0),(974,268,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1057000530,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','old Oliver Ad -- 1938 - 1940','My Grandfather bought an Oliver 70 new in early 1938.   My aunt told me yesterday that she wrote a poem about it that was sent to Oliver and was used in an  ad for the 70.   She no longer has a copy of the ad.   I don&#039;t know if this was a national or regional ad.   Would anyone know anything about an ad like that or have information on who I could contact to learn more?','',0,'EA==','29ljwf6v',1,0,'',188,0,0),(975,263,1,96,0,'216.201.29.50',1057019461,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','NTR for 2004','km:\r\nDid anyone mention to you that next year will be their 60th show and Oliver will be the featured tractor. I had one of the directors tell me that,','',0,'EA==','279h7hze',1,0,'',96,0,0),(976,263,1,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1057022157,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','they told me.   We are planning to be back with the tractors and mill next year.   Hope we can get a good turnout of Oliver tractors and machinery for the show.','',0,'EA==','20tvlepw',1,0,'',188,0,0),(977,269,1,253,0,'65.205.150.10',1057070012,1,0,1,1,1,0,'lindley Clark','Rear tire size for 77 Std.','Can someone please tell me what size rear tires were standard on a 77 Std tractor. Were other sizes optional from Oliver?','',0,'EA==','5ik8ehkp',1,0,'',253,0,0),(978,58,1,253,0,'65.205.150.10',1057083001,1,0,1,1,1,0,'lindley Clark','How did I get hooked','My Father was an Oliver and Ferguson Dealer in Ky in the late f 40&#039;s and early 50&#039;s. I can remember driving the Cletracs around in the back lot when just a small boy. A few years ago a cousin called and told me he knew of a nice 1944 60 that Dad had sold new that was for sale, and that started me going. After restoring the 60 I bought a 77 std and converted it to a pulling tractor, and an 88 Diesel and am currently looking at a 770. I am president of our local antique engine and tractor club and we are in process of building a show grounds on a 600 acre property. I suppose I have a terminal case of Classic Tractor (Oliver) fever.','',0,'EA==','wguzaocz',1,0,'',253,0,0),(979,269,1,35,0,'67.32.84.190',1057083052,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','77 Standard tires','The Standard 77 &amp;amp; 88 carried a 26 inch diameter whereas the 66 carried a 24 inch diameter. The row crops carried the following 66 38 inch 8-38,9-38,10-38 the 77 38inch 10-38,11-38,12-38 the 88 11-38,12-38, 13-38. I am not sure how many with sizes were available for the standard but I think 8,9 and 10 were available with different lug types.','',0,'EA==','ahwpcnwe',1,0,'',35,0,0),(980,236,1,253,0,'65.205.150.10',1057083510,1,0,1,1,1,0,'lindley Clark','Best pulling tractor','I agree the 88&#039;s are great pullers but you can run the lighter classes with a 77 RC. I have seen 77s in the 3500 pound classes and combines with the HP available they make a formidible tractor up to about 5000 lbs. I am currently pulling a 77 std in the 4000 and 4500 &amp;quot;Super Stock&amp;quot; classes and have never failed to place in the top three. I can usually be competitive in the modified class even though I don&#039;t have cut tires, but I can&#039;t win in the modified classes.','',0,'EA==','vdl2luir',1,0,'',253,0,0),(981,220,1,253,0,'65.205.150.10',1057085265,1,0,1,1,1,0,'lindley Clark','','How much money do you want to spend and what class do you want to pull in? You can start by overhauling the engine and installing a set of M &amp;amp; W high dome pistons from Korves Oliver. Deck the block to increase HP jet the carb and you will have plenty of power for the stock classes. From there the sky is the limit. You can have a big CI stroker engine built that will produce over 200 HP @ about 1900 RPM&#039;s but it gets expensive. You can also build one yourself using car pistons and rods if you are a good mechanic.','',0,'EA==','3rgl22b7',1,0,'',253,0,0),(982,236,1,47,0,'65.238.36.48',1057093706,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','It depends on if you are serious, or just want to play with the little boys. If you want to seriously pull, get an FDE. If you just want to play, any wheel tractor will work, make or model is not relevant.','',0,'EA==','3qrns1zz',1,0,'',47,0,0),(983,220,1,47,0,'65.238.36.48',1057094053,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Why would anyone want to ruin a perfectly good tractor? Fix it up, make it nice, then show and plow with it, that is what they were made for, doing farm work the best and lookin&#039; good doin&#039; it. Pullin&#039; is what Cletracs are best at, and Texas is full of Cletracs.','',0,'EA==','5y8lrvmw',1,0,'',47,0,0),(984,220,1,254,0,'216.37.132.6',1057111448,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 pulling power','well if your gas 88 runes like my diesel i don&#039;t think you need any more power unless all you do with it is pull .','',0,'EA==','gr04kdva',1,0,'',254,0,0),(985,270,1,254,0,'216.37.132.6',1057112030,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 with a TA or hydra power','I was looking around a junk yard full of olivers and i found what i think is a 88 or a 880 with what looks like a TA or a early form of a hydra power it has a external clutch and a gear box atached . do you know what it is and if it would fit in my 88? hope somebody can help me.','',0,'EA==','1sdvd0kk',1,0,'',254,0,0),(986,169,1,254,0,'216.37.132.6',1057112896,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','70 steering','If your are loking for parts i know where there are 2 70 one run&#039;s and is in grate shape and the other is in a salvage yard at a local tractor dealer the running one they whant $1,000 for it .','',0,'EA==','39lnp0o3',1,0,'',254,0,0),(987,270,1,5,0,'216.166.193.78',1057113708,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Power Booster','Slim, the 880&#039;s had  a Power Booster as optional equipment. Works like a T/A. CASHY to fix. I&#039;ve heard of some being put in 88&#039;s, but don&#039;t know how much trouble you would have. Probably have some space issues and not sure what all parts you need to change going into the tranny. Good luck. oleblu','',0,'EA==','26naww75',1,0,'',5,0,0),(988,270,1,96,0,'216.201.29.110',1057113867,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Power Booster','Yes it will work, but to keep life simple you need one out of an 880 with a spur gear transmission. Later ones are helical geared so the transmission imput shaft will not work','',0,'EA==','1fy2jo8h',1,0,'',96,0,0),(989,263,1,249,0,'216.93.124.242',1057154327,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Bryan in Michigan','','Yes, indeed we did have a good time at the show, and meeting you.\r\n\r\nMy wife followed the mush recipe and used the corn meal from your mill, of course. Very tasty. And, thanks for the serial number help, too.\r\n\r\nThat is a show that I used to love as a small boy, what with all the steamers. But, I hadn&#039;t been there in 10 years, at least. We decided to to this year for the Rumely 150th anniversary, and we were not disappointed.\r\n\r\nMade for a great weekend.','',0,'EA==','23r0hj0r',1,0,'',249,0,0),(990,271,1,255,0,'10.48.133.206',1057163906,1,0,1,1,1,0,'BuckeyeJoeG','ROPS for 1755','Hello,  I am trying to obtain a Rollbar and Sun shade for a 1755 Oliver.  Does anyone know of a company that makes new ones or a salvage yard that has used ones?\r\n\r\nTHanks\r\n\r\nJoe G','',0,'EA==','2rs2cfvf',1,0,'',255,0,0),(991,238,3,7,0,'63.250.73.184',1057196935,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Meeting time and place','After reviewing a jam packed schedule for the show, Friday morning at 11:00PM at the pulling track grandstand looks like a good time for an internet user meeting. Any takers? I&#039;ll set it up and have the PA announcer let everyone know. John','',0,'EA==','mprerw77',1,0,'',7,0,0),(992,238,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1057197163,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','Looks good to me.   It looks like I will get there early friday morning and need to leave Saturday evening.   John,   I&#039;m still planning to bring the mill and 70 along if it is wanted for 2 days.   It was popular at National Threshers.','',0,'EA==','zw7kg2ni',1,0,'',188,0,0),(993,238,3,7,0,'63.250.73.184',1057200238,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Grist Mill','That will be great Kieth','',0,'EA==','3drpaang',1,0,'',7,0,0),(994,238,3,5,0,'216.166.192.255',1057200784,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','meeting','John, sounds like a plan. To everyone else, when you get to the show, look me up. I&#039;ll be helping Mr. Meeker park tractors. I shouldn&#039;t be too hard to find. See you there. Jim Thurnau','',0,'EA==','vnqq22ip',1,0,'',5,0,0),(995,270,1,254,0,'199.224.87.47',1057201247,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','thanks','Hey thanks . DO all 88 have spur gear trans or not cause mine is a 53 . It is an a tractor that sais row crop on the axel housing ot did the 880 say that too?  how do you check how full the trans is it does not have a dip stick that i can find .I found the fill it was foverd in mud.\r\nslim','',0,'EA==','1fxt0mle',1,0,'',254,0,0),(996,236,1,254,0,'199.224.87.47',1057201663,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','puller','I think a 88 diesel for 2 reasons i have one and i have not ben able to snuff it yet and that is what won the 4500 5000 and 5500 lb class at our county fair the past 2 yearsis a pare of 88 one gas and one diesel .I am more for the diesel my self . but tat is up to you .','',0,'EA==','1sipegcx',1,0,'',254,0,0),(997,238,3,35,0,'65.82.175.102',1057201695,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','meeting','John\r\n\r\nThe meeting time is good for me.\r\nFrank','',0,'EA==','1ajdq88j',1,0,'',35,0,0),(998,156,1,254,0,'199.224.87.47',1057202638,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','70 parts','I know of a few one runns and they whan a 1000 for it and my local equitmen dealer has o few in the salvage the number for them is (570)729-7117 or7171 not sure dont call them often i stop in if you call ask for used parts try to talk to brian he should be abel to help you','',0,'EA==','2n9ejbz5',1,0,'',254,0,0),(999,156,1,47,0,'65.238.36.40',1057205421,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','For your side panels contact Richard Lynch, Ph 937-456-6686, while you&#039;re talking to him mention the other parts you want, he might know where to find them, or he might have them.','',0,'EA==','2cekm88m',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1000,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.40',1057205711,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Yeah, oleblu is another one of those little short, skinny guys from Arkansas, he will be easy to find, just look for the little guy.','',0,'EA==','b28sc5kz',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1001,265,1,96,0,'216.201.29.94',1057246689,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oliver Equipment','Went by Yoder &amp;amp; Frey Auction yard. They have a pretty clean model 64 drill. I think sale might be Tuesday. Send a U-2-U if you would like their phone number.','',0,'EA==','15ddapfm',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1002,265,1,7,0,'152.163.252.199',1057284143,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Oliver Superior Grain Drill','I have an Oliver Superior grain drill on steel that will be in the Trading Post area of the show at Penfield next week. I also have the original owners manual. John','',0,'EA==','uxkozg2l',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1003,272,1,257,0,'24.199.116.185',1057430613,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Tip','Oliver 60 Overhaul Parts','I just purchased a stuck Oliver 60 RC.  From what I gather, rebuild parts are hard to come by.  Any suggestions for new sleaves and pistons?\r\n\r\nThanks for your help\r\n\r\nTip','',0,'EA==','xom00wss',1,0,'',257,0,0),(1004,238,3,65,0,'216.183.132.158',1057435170,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','Meeting of web heads','Sorry if I offended anyone haying in 90 plus weather to get done before this trip [yes we are done] and trying to not let this beef border closing get me down [I can&#039;t eat my way out of this mess] has me a little testy these days but no doubt some oliver fun will put me at rest soon enough! We will see you in Penfield !!','',0,'','3jdxco3v',1,0,'',65,0,0),(1005,273,1,258,0,'65.166.132.110',1057444896,1,0,1,1,1,0,'wa0vtj3','Oliver 70 parts for sale','I have a KD engine around 1937 (the old flat face radiator) Is apart, probably stuck, have block, head rocker, push rods, cover,&amp;amp; pan.  Have a pair of side panel for that age.  Wrinkled, but not torn up.\r\nNote: The side panels have been sold.\r\n\n\n[Edited on 8-24-2003 by wa0vtj3]','',0,'','1l1oo19i',1,0,'',258,0,0),(1006,238,3,5,0,'216.166.193.112',1057456808,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','cattle','Canada Grant, I understand your problem with the border crossing of cattle right now. Tell me more of your situation. Where are you located? Are there no markets in your area of Canada for cattle? Do you REALLY make more bringing them down to the States and is it worth it? I&#039;ve seen people buy feeder pigs from Canada and have them trucked all the way to Illinois. 3 guys with a &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; full of feeders (800 head or so) coming almost 700 miles.How much PROFIT can there be in that? Just curious. oleblu  PS- See you at the show.','',0,'','2gf6rc19',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1007,274,1,102,0,'67.73.131.157',1057457933,1,0,1,1,1,0,'scout','OLIVER LOADER FOR SALE!!!!!!','1967 LOADER oliver sold for different tractors-this is the big one-1510- made in chicago-with 3800 lbs. breakwayforce.Equipped with double-acting cylinders,2 3/4 inches in diameter.the tractors 12 gallons per minute hydraulic system employs the loader frame as an oil reservoir.&amp;quot;The oliver loader fits your tractor like a glove&amp;quot; $1585  Iwill be at penfield--','',0,'','3s5qxp7w',1,0,'',102,0,0),(1008,274,1,102,0,'67.73.131.157',1057458872,1,0,1,1,1,0,'scout','more on loader---','loader needs restoration--some original paint plus all poor decals-needs new hoses-bucket is fair to good. loader frame is original with no repairs made.have brackets for front and rear axle. set up to be quick to attach--two controls--up and POWER down plus bucket tilt in and out.actual pictures and original sales piece in attachments','',0,'','3takj7h5',1,0,'',102,0,0),(1009,274,1,102,0,'67.73.131.157',1057459359,1,0,1,1,1,0,'scout','more pics','','',0,'0','1cm0k8kj',1,0,'',102,0,0),(1010,272,1,96,0,'216.201.29.98',1057459951,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oliver 60','Think past the forest. I just worked on one that was not stuck, but had over 20 thousand out of round  on sleeve wear. The outside of the sleeves were in good shape so we bored sleeves 030 and put in new aluminum pistons.','',0,'','1wiaeuwk',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1011,275,3,51,0,'64.12.96.7',1057462818,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','I&amp;I HPOCA SHOW','Went for a work day today. Looks like a good show is shaping up. A few pieces of equipment are there and I have had some calls about bringing more ahead of time. I would say we can handle it. The parking areas for the tractors will soon be marked off.                                                          The flowers the ladies planted are looking good the grass is mowed and trimming is finished. HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. Delbert','',0,'','2xin02no',1,0,'',51,0,0),(1012,275,3,7,0,'205.188.209.16',1057503266,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Rain','We had 3 1/4 inches of rain at my house last night 9 miles north of Penfield. I will be going down to the showgrounds and check everything out. I talked to the head of security last night and he will be there full time starting tonight. John','',0,'','1oc00gz3',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1013,275,3,7,0,'152.163.253.7',1057511720,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Rain Update','Penfield had 2 inches of rain last night, everything looks great at the show grounds and tractors and equipment are starting to arrive. See you there, John','',0,'','vhc6wrvb',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1014,275,3,5,0,'216.166.192.47',1057526375,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Show grounds','I was with Terry today hauling two tractors to Penfield and saw a lot of work being done for the show. The rain John spoke of has the dust settled and everything looks great. The tractors and implements are showing up, some interesting ones there already. Can&#039;t wait till Thursday to let the good times roll! oleblu','',0,'','1g6hm8sz',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1015,275,3,51,0,'64.12.96.166',1057527940,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Delbert','Rain','I didn&#039;t get a drop of rain 50 miles sw of Penfield and we need some. Delbert','',0,'','35qhf9hg',1,0,'',51,0,0),(1016,276,1,254,0,'216.37.132.20',1057528244,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','how to check fluid level in 88 RC trans?','I whant to change the fluid it the tranes but i don&#039;t know haw full to fill it. I found the filler but there is now dipstick that i can find .Can you tell me where the dipstick is? and if i fill the hyd up top the full mark on the dipstick when i let down the haybine i run on it it pushes out the vent on the filler why is that?','',0,'','2i1ti62j',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1017,277,1,254,0,'216.37.132.20',1057528770,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 diesel wet or dry sleevs?,side panels, paint?','I have a 88 diesel i was wondering if it has wet or dry sleevs cause i waht to rebuild it this winter. and where is the best place to get the part or any oliver parts cause i an going to need them. I also need side panels for it it is a 53 . what color was the rims ans grill in 53 ?','',0,'','1vq342lu',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1018,272,1,257,0,'24.199.116.185',1057529145,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Tip','Thinking &quot;out of the box&quot;','Thanks for the encouragement John...\r\n\r\nI will first see if I can get it unstuck without major surgery and take it from there.  So far, it is looking promising - oil in the crankcase, almost no rust on the plugs....the cylinders are now full of MMO.  I&#039;ll pull the head in a day or two and then start figuring what else I will need to do.','',0,'','2fxm3ah3',1,0,'',257,0,0),(1019,272,1,96,0,'216.201.29.154',1057529431,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','60','If you have not done so, take the engine out of the tractor and work on it on a bench. Lot easier to know what your are doing if it is on bench.','',0,'','2ugrs0p7',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1020,276,1,96,0,'216.201.29.154',1057529595,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','88 Transmission.','There is a check plug on the right side almost right at the back. It takes 19 quart.\r\nOn your hydraulic you should have a restictor that you adjust to control rate of drop. Next dump question does your haybine have a single acting cylinder, if it does, where is the oil to go if the unit is full.','',0,'','1ukbubsp',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1021,277,1,5,0,'216.166.193.216',1057533205,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','parts and paint','Slim, as far as I know, all the Fleetline 88&#039;s had red wheels and yellow grills. Only the early &amp;quot;Super&amp;quot; series had green wheels. \r\n As far as parts, I&#039;d try Korves Oliver for your rebuild items and Lynch Farms for sheetmetal. I believe both of these vendors will be at the HPOCA show July 10-13 in Penfield, IL. If you are there, they can answer your questions in person.','',0,'','3d1izowm',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1022,276,1,5,0,'216.166.193.216',1057533813,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','tranny and hyd','Slim, John is right on all counts above. If a single action cylinder is full (up) and your resivoir is full (on the dipstick), then when you let the haybine down, it pushes the cylinder oil back to your resivoir causing an overfull condition. The only place it can go is out the fill cap. These resivoirs are small and don&#039;t have a lot of space for extra oil.\r\n  oleblu','',0,'','3mg6636u',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1023,238,3,65,0,'216.183.149.190',1057536944,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Canada Grant','cattle prices','Canada produces far more meat than we can eat and a lot heads south or overseas to far east . With border closed in both directions as are US cattle locked out of the far east as well prices have tumbled. I sold Short keep charlios/limo hiefers in april at 1.08 a lb [84 us] since then same cattle are trading in the 75 cent area [52 us] X 1000 lb X number in yard = grumpy farmers. A lot of cattle in this area top end of southern ontario [ due east of the thumb of Michigan ] are on grass till october then sent out as short keeps in feedlots. Just before mad cow border closing 1200 per week were trading at one local sale since then......250 300......There out there and when the weather turns they got to go somewhere! Its iritateing when packers here are still taking US cattle for kill here. Not many but every pot load coming north cuts back on numbers of local kill cattle. They are claiming these were prebought US cattle. Center loin cuts still pricy in store [BBQ season] but your fronts and poorer cuts are building in stock [not roast weather when its 90 out!] My self personally I don&#039;t ship stateside but spinoff back down the line hurts. I have a freezer beef trade but that usually kicks in in the fall but have moved a few that way but so is everyone else so hang space is thin and guys are undercutting to get rid of the greasy cattle. Grading is different here also what grades USDA A1 is too fat here would go to A2-3 with 3 to 5 cent dicount .My own cattle are getting half the grain they were on and that started the day I heard border was closed! I&#039;m cleaning up second cut alfalfa bales out  of our barns that have very little market value in case I need barley for cash market. As far as the pig thing they are building 300 plus sow barns in ontario like crazy ! Early wean at 10 days go to nursery barn to 45-50 lb. the finishers from there and a pile go states way. Land for manure is part of it also land costs lower here $2500 per acre [$1700us] for decent crop land but you don,t have to go to far south to double that. Enough of this we will have a chin wag in Penfield ! Just look for a trailer with canadian flag! Worst thing is I can&#039;t bring my own steak !!! JUst to show darn good it is but ask any oliver gang member who has been to canada to our shows and they will tell about the good Bruce County hip of beef!','',0,'','33xba9uo',1,0,'',65,0,0),(1024,236,1,96,0,'216.201.29.139',1057537448,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Pulling tractor for sale','I see on Dennis Polks sale bill for this year (labor Day Anual Sale ) he has a 99 with a 6v-71 Detroit  at 350 Horse Power Listed. Double winner, lots of noise and if you can get it to bite it should go down the tractor a good distance. Must not be for the out of field farm stock class.','',0,'','1jvu91ts',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1025,276,1,96,0,'216.201.29.29',1057541140,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oil out of breather','Sorry, Not a thinking day, but since I can not see your haybine I do not know what size lift cylinders you have, but if you have like a pair of double acting cylinders longer than the standard ASAE 8 inch stroke you have more oil comming out of the cylinders on the lower stroke than you do on the raise stroke. Also if your rate of drop is too fast the breather can not handle the sudden rush of air or if the breather is plugged the dip stick can pop up. Make sure you can control the rate of drop, Too many of these restored tractor guys take the restictor swivel off (one less place to have a leak) and then there is no way to control cylinder speed. In time you can also caviate the cylinder and you do not need these metal particles in the hydraulic oil/ Confused send me a U-2-u','',0,'','34jhdxzg',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1026,276,1,254,0,'216.37.157.154',1057542892,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','hyd','It has one singel acting . and i always leve it down so there should not be any oil in it exept for what is in the line. what does the restrictor look like? and what is with  the wires on the top of the hyd and the 4 wire plug at the back?','',0,'','2n58uqly',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1027,278,3,7,0,'152.163.213.46',1057543347,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Show Prodedures','I&#039;ve been getting a lot of calls on how and when to bring tractors, so here goes.\r\n\r\nAny time from now until the beginning of the show you can bring your tractors. You can also go directly to the show grounds and bypass the exhibitor parking lot. Please unload steel wheeled tractors on the grass. There is security patrols from now until Monday 7/14/03.\r\n\r\nStarting Thursday morning 7/10/03 you will need to enter the grounds via the exhibitor parking lot. The entrance is 1/4 mile east of county highway 22 on US136. There will be LARGE signs directing you. If you need to unload on the grounds, follow the path to the grounds and someone will direct you, hopefully Bill or Jim.\r\n\r\nIf you are camping on the grounds, you will enter the public parking area from either US136 or County Highway 22 and go to the Southeast corner of the lot where an area has been staked off for camping.\r\n\r\nHPOCA will have 5 golf carts at their disposal for Bill and Jim to use while directing parking and whatever else needs to be done. look me up and I will be glad to help any way I can.','',0,'','1bwdsav3',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1028,278,3,47,0,'65.238.36.168',1057547854,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','I hope you have 3 and 4 foot loading docks, as well as a good route to get into them.','',0,'','3v0nhkx7',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1029,278,3,7,0,'152.163.252.199',1057574258,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Loading docks','Andy, We have you covered. Discussed your situation with Terry June 22nd. There are loading docks of different heights and also endloaders and forklifts available.','',0,'','30h4kvd9',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1030,278,3,47,0,'65.238.36.158',1057612567,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Well John,\r\nIt might not be necessary, at this point I am still having major engine problems with the truck. One of our members, Brandon Howell, will come over this evening, we will pull it apart again. And the clock is ticking.','',0,'','nalekst8',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1031,10,3,259,0,'65.43.7.174',1057616859,1,0,1,1,1,0,'OliverEducation','Studebaker Move','One of the main reasons Studebaker is leaving their current building is that it is falling down.  They have a back wall-that you can&#039;t see from Michigan Street that is leaning (so they say-I can&#039;t see it with my naked eye).','',0,'','23u2td4w',1,0,'',259,0,0),(1032,279,1,254,0,'199.224.87.149',1057619093,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 diesel hard to start hot','MY 88 won&#039;t start once you run it unless you leave it set about 2 hours or more. it wiil start.but at a hot cranking speed the mechanical lift pump has no pressure . all i can get trough my lacal tracto dealer is a electric and then i can not pull it cause the rule book said no elec pumpe unless factory . can you still get a rebuild kit or a rebiult pump.  hope you can help','',0,'','2we4dlp5',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1033,280,3,7,0,'205.188.209.12',1057627543,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','13th Annual HPOCA National Summer show','D-3 (Monday). Tractors were arriving today by the truck load, Didn&#039;t count but I would guess we are well over 50 3 days before the show begins. Spent the day putting up fence and lining the display area, and generally helping to keep things in order.','',0,'','1x4c5ric',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1034,280,3,5,0,'216.166.192.72',1057628620,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','Hard work','John, Terry and I were at the grounds on Sunday to bring in 2 tractors and saw the guys putting up fence in and around the parking area. It is too bad your club has to go to all that work this week only to take it down next week. See you Wednesday. Jim T','',0,'','13ib633t',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1035,279,1,254,0,'199.224.87.143',1057629370,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 diesel hard to start','Correction will not start hot will not even smoke or pop.                                          no smoke+no fuel+no run=bad:mad:','',0,'','200j3u22',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1036,278,3,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1057634153,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','In the Same Boat','I plan on bringing my 880. Just painted the chassis today. Tried to contact Lynch Farms and Dumonts for side panels and decals today, but got no reponse. Maybe they have already went to the show. I guess I&#039;ll just keep pluggin&#039; away. See ya at the show. WB.','',0,'','38c6k952',1,0,'',12,0,0),(1037,238,3,47,0,'65.238.36.127',1057646691,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Wow! Cattle prices haven&#039;t gotten any better, but they keep going up in the stores. In 1975. when I got out of the Army. Dad and I had a joint venture in angus show stock, well originally it started when I was young around 10 yrs. old, between my grandfather and me. Anyhow Dad and I decided to start keeping records and do some book keeping on this stock. At the end of 1 full year we assessed our situation, to find the cattle had increased our revenue by almost exactly the same amount the market price of the feed they consumed. We sold all the cattle, then produced and sold feed, haven&#039;t looked back and have no regrets. The really big advantage is I don&#039;t have to feed and water the stock or clean out the barn, which leaves me more room for Olivers!!!','',0,'','3pe5yeds',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1038,281,2,26,0,'216.176.88.15',1057667464,1,0,1,1,1,0,'sherry','No. 3 convoy','If you&#039;re planning on traveling to Penfield on Wednesday and are anywhere in the vicinity, please join our convoy.  No. 3 will leave Greenville at 10:30 AM with a police escort and will be followed by a tractorcade of collectors.  We will be traveling across Rt. 40 to Effingham and will continue north on Rt. 45 towards Rantoul.  We will be stopping throughout towns along the way with our first scheduled stop to be at the Wal-Mart parking lot in Vandalia at 11:00 AM.  There are already 9 rigs scheduled to leave Greenville and many more will be joining us along the way.  The entire tractorcade will be filmed by WGN out of Chicago and will be available for sale on Saturday at the show.  If you can&#039;t join us for the tractorcade, we&#039;ll see you in Penfield!','',0,'','2scrrx3y',1,0,'',26,0,0),(1039,280,3,35,0,'67.32.85.179',1057685824,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','show','If I can be of any help please let me know. We will be arriving from TN late Thurs. I will be happy to aid in any way that I can.','',0,'','pa69sd0l',1,0,'',35,0,0),(1040,280,3,7,0,'152.163.252.199',1057696599,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','D minus 2','Another very hot day, but the weatherman says we are going to have great weather for the show. Lots of activity today, a constant stream of Oliver tractors arriving. The lot around the HPOCA tents is nearly full. I marked some more space across the road to the east. I&#039;m sure you all want to know that the portapotties are here:D More fence building today, the binding crew got started making bundles today, the sawmill crew is busy. The tents will all be up by tonight. Thursday morning at 6:15 AM I will be on the channel 3 Morning Show. Come out and join me. This is going to be really neat hope to see you in Penfield. John','',0,'','30r6iqnh',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1041,282,3,12,0,'209.240.212.237',1057714823,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Wrenchbender','Show Book at Penfield','Does anyone know if the people doing the show book will be there on a certain day or during the whole show? I plan on bringing my tractor on Friday and Saturday, hoped to have a chance to be in the book. Thanks, WB.','',0,'','3nrwcuu0',1,0,'',12,0,0),(1042,177,1,118,0,'63.250.74.65',1057715876,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tomwalther','','Where can I see this gem?','',0,'','3vfl0p0z',1,0,'',118,0,0),(1043,283,1,118,0,'63.250.74.65',1057716050,1,0,1,1,1,0,'tomwalther','Want a 40,440?','Looking for a good 40/440 or like small tractor.  I want to install a belly mower or finishing mower.\r\nAlso, want a rear blade for a 660.\r\nSee Ya!','',0,'','6b5efvtj',1,0,'',118,0,0),(1044,279,1,254,0,'216.37.132.110',1057716726,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 hard to start','Well i am stumped now i installed the kit i gat to replace the mechanical pump with a elec. pump and i starts hot but hard could the timing be off.or the pump going bad?has any one had thi trouble before .hope sombody can help me Slim','',0,'','1bl8b3ad',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1045,280,3,116,0,'63.173.216.218',1057734194,1,0,1,1,1,0,'kline','little children','John your worse than a little boy waiting on Christmas. Have a great time, wish I could be there too. Good luck &amp;amp; be safe. Todd Kline  ( another Oliver user )','',0,'','33wrtkxe',1,0,'',116,0,0),(1046,280,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1057738934,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','No,  we are big children.  we have bigger toys:D','',0,'','32ek2e3k',1,0,'',188,0,0),(1047,280,3,5,0,'216.166.192.35',1057750005,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oleblu','HPOCA show','It&#039;s not quite 6:30 here and I&#039;m all packed and ready to leave for the show. Hope most of you can make it to the show and will stop by and say HI. I&#039;m just like John, I CAN&amp;quot;T WAIT!! oleblu','',0,'','363vgt1s',1,0,'',5,0,0),(1048,280,3,35,0,'67.32.85.179',1057756432,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','show','I have been looking forward to this show for a year. I have to teach a college biology course tonight but I will leave bright and early tomorrow. Looking forward to meeting the rest of you cyber Oliver fellars. THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'','ow74nolu',1,0,'',35,0,0),(1049,65,3,259,0,'65.43.7.174',1057778502,1,0,1,1,1,1,'OliverEducation','','I can help with this!  Being employed by the Northern Indiana Center for History I have access to a certain number of Oliver archives.  Most of these archive materials are implement-based!  There&#039;s quite a bit of material...so, here&#039;s a list of what I&#039;ve come across thus far:\r\n-factory parts listings for Oliver implements\r\n-some repair and part listing catalogs\r\n-original factory-used pictures of implements (I assumed used for copyrighting purposes (B/W))\r\n\r\nMost of these records were saved from the OCPW factory in the early to mid-1980s by our Curator.  Most (not all) are still in good shape.\r\n\r\nI am limited on time, but do believe that the information included in these materials would help the implement collector (there&#039;s not much on any Oliver tractors--its, once again, deals mainly with Oliver implements).\r\n\r\nI could help out by transcribing these materials (scanning?) and having Sherry post them on the oliverinformation website?  Let me know what I can do for you all.\r\n\r\nTravis Childs\r\nNICH','',0,'','1t6oauhl',1,0,'',259,0,0),(1050,284,1,260,0,'66.19.51.108',1057786582,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Johnson Michael','Oliver # 22 sickel mower','For Sale Oliver #22-A sickel bar mower. Marengo Il 60152 e-mail <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:scenicpad@hotmail.com\">scenicpad@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,'','1f3r9lbu',1,0,'',260,0,0),(1051,280,3,7,0,'205.188.208.134',1057801305,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Rain Rain Rain','I would sure like to be more positive about what is happening in Penfield, but here is the scoop. We had a Rain storm with wind come through the grounds on Tuesday night, 2 inches of rain. Same thing tonight. So, with 4+ inches of rain things are pretty ugly. It would appear that we have lost the wheat field for the weekend, therefore the majority of our parking area is a prarie swamp. Don&#039;t be discouraged about coming, there are a LOT of tractors and there are a lot of activities that will go on as scheduled. Please be patient as things won&#039;t be going very smoothly Thursday and Friday as we get our bearings. Hart Parr #3 arrived with a lot of fanfare and it is beautiful, there are enough Olivers to keep you looking for the better part of a day and there will be food and entertainment all day everyday. I will post as soon as I know anything more. John','',0,'','r7b5ljg9',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1052,282,3,7,0,'205.188.209.16',1057801487,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Show book','If you are here on Friday and Saturday you will be in good shape. Because the weather has been so bad the backdrop hasn&#039;t been set up yet. There are plans to do that Thursday and I think there will be picture taking both Friday and Saturday. John','',0,'','b3nmq0y0',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1053,65,3,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1057845647,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Wow, OliverEd, it sounds like you have a veritable wealth of information at your hands.  All of which could prove very helpful for Oliver enthusiasts all over the world.  Hopefully we can do something with it all.  When Terry and Sherry and Andy and the rest all get back from Penfield, they will read the post and get back with you I am sure.  I wish I was there.....oh well, some of us have to work midnights!:(','',0,'','a1hzp54b',1,0,'',105,0,0),(1054,279,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1057846044,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','hey slim, your timing could very well be off.  Does it start easy when it is cold?  Or is it still kinda hard?  Was it a pulling tractor before you bought it?  If it was, and somebody who didn&#039;t know what they were doing decided to advance the timing......well lets just say its easy to screw up real bad when you take the cover off.<!-- s:o --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif\" alt=\":o\" title=\"Surprised\" /><!-- s:o -->  Been there done that.','',0,'','2us1zdgt',1,0,'',105,0,0),(1055,236,1,105,0,'68.63.252.194',1057846526,1,0,1,1,1,0,'995Lugmatic','','Is this for pulling within NATPA or USAP guidelines?  Everybody keeps giving different answers, so I cant tell.  If so, I can tell you that I have pulled an 88 gas from the 4000 lb. class up to the 6500 lb. class for probably 15 years, and it has won many times.  It is virtually stock, I am pretty sure that it has an overbore kit in it, but I dont know since we have never had the head off.  This tractor was stuck, and left for dead in a field when we got it.  Poured some penetrating oil in the plug holes, broke it loose with a prybar on the flywheel, poured some gas in it, and started it, and have been pulling it ever since.  What I am getting at is dont let anyone tell you that you have to have some big dollar ride to pull.  It is more about putting what power you have to the ground than it is how much power you make.','',0,'','327v93w8',1,0,'',105,0,0),(1056,279,1,254,0,'216.37.157.176',1057887565,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 hard start','IT srarts hard cold and just now it wont start hot.could it be loseing prime ?when it is hot it wont start on starting fluidcould the valves be out . it tickes but not much  .','',0,'','2imp1esw',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1057,280,3,7,0,'205.188.208.134',1057891997,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Day one','Just arrived home from the first day of the show. Under less than ideal circumstances we kicked off the show and things went very well. Most of the events were cancelled today, but tomorrow we plan on a full schedule. Again, please be patient as we are not at full strength, but the show is going to work. Tractors of every size shape and description are arriving and many rare models are on display. Hart Parr #3 is being fired up and run periodically through the day. See you there, John','',0,'','1id70hsb',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1058,280,3,7,0,'205.188.208.134',1057977212,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Day 2','More tractors, more sun. Great all around day. All of the activities were on the schedule today except binding and combining. Great parade, video taping and photos for the picture book. Great food. Parking was a challenge, but I think everyone found a place to park. We had a breif rain shower that wet the grounds down and made the parking lots greasy. Hopefully we will get through the night without any real problems. See you in Penfield. John','',0,'','20lg9ieu',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1059,279,1,223,0,'66.43.217.90',1058024361,1,0,1,1,1,0,'RussVetter','','I have a 66 diesel that I had restored; when it ran before the restoration I was told it was very hard to start. In fact they would use almost a whole can of starting fluid in the summer to get it going. The hard starting happened after they had the vavles ground; my mechanic told me that you DO NOT grind vavles in the diesel engines. I would suggest you do a compresion test on your cylinders; after all it is compression that makes your engine work. I also put an electric pump on my 66 and it works great; you only need to be able to dump the fuel back to tank when the engine is not running and the pump is.','',0,'','hew7lg7f',1,0,'',223,0,0),(1060,279,1,96,0,'216.201.29.34',1058029552,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Oliver Diesel engines and compression','Russ: In a way I agree with you. If you grind the valves you increase the volume of the combustion chamber. Most diesel engines have a tollerance of only 15 to 20 thousands for valve protrussion or recession. Most of these older Oliver diesels had had the valves ground at least once and maybe twice so they are not in spec to start with any more. New valves while a good idea may not correct the problem. A set of both intake and exhaust seats installed to get the right protrusion will definately improve the starting. Another thing to watch for is when you recondition the rods and you hone the big end and then the small end you may loose your piston height and 0.005 loss of piston heigth makes for a sizeable loss of compression.Then again how many guys have a diesel compression tester let alone and adapter to  fit the Oliver. If you have a lot of grey/ white smoke when starting you are short on compression.','',0,'','1j1rjgu9',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1061,285,5,261,0,'209.206.216.80',1058035887,1,0,1,1,1,0,'oldtymer','just want to post ad looking for hart-parr parts','[Edited on 7-12-2003 by oldtymer]','',0,'','zezrfiec',1,0,'',261,0,0),(1062,280,3,7,0,'63.250.73.187',1058065560,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Day 3','What a difference a little sun makes! We started out a little soggy this morning but as the sun tightened it&#039;s grip on Penfield things began to improve quickly. There was a great showing of Hart Parr and Oliver tractors again. Hart Parr #3 was in action, a birthday party for #3, we got a full round of tractor pulling in. the only thing we couldn&#039;t do was binding and combining. The draft horse pull was very cool and was well attended and the country show was good too. Thanks to everyone for coming out and especial the folks at HPOCA, Hartland and Midwest for all of your hard work. John','',0,'','17cd527y',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1063,280,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1058139361,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','John,   thanks for all your work to make it a great show.   Everyone in your club did a great job.  I enjoyed meeting many of the people who post here in the forum.  Now I am safely back home and ready to clean the tractor and mill and  get ready for the next show.','',0,'','1s3llxfb',1,0,'',188,0,0),(1064,280,3,7,0,'152.163.252.199',1058150021,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','It&#039;s over!','Sunday sprang with some great sunshine and a bustle of activity as many prepared to go home and the final events of the show took place.\r\n\r\nAND THE WINNER IS:\r\n\r\nSuper 55 Tractor : Rick Thompson; Danville, IL\r\n\r\nPenfield Quilt; Francis Olson; Penfield,IL\r\n\r\nOliver Pedal Tractor; Greg Miller; Mahomet, IL\r\n\r\nOliver 80 Wood Carving;\r\nWanda VonBerg; Town not listed\r\n\r\nThanks to everyone that made the show a success and answered the question, &amp;quot;Where is Penfield?&amp;quot;. Now that you know where it is come back and join us again.\r\n\r\nGreat job Kieth, come back anytime.\r\n\r\nJohn','',0,'','2ve7w0qm',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1065,257,1,1,0,'66.82.176.119',1058150065,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Melensdad','','tractor sold today:D','',0,'','3p693ic9',1,0,'',1,0,0),(1066,280,3,206,0,'205.245.188.254',1058151509,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Swampy','Super55','John                                                    Thanks for making the show go as good as did for the weather. Enjoyed my time there and was happy to be flag  tractor  for the show. Many thanks to you and the club.','',0,'','22mac5he',1,0,'',206,0,0),(1067,286,1,184,0,'152.163.252.131',1058152701,1,0,1,1,1,0,'dukette89','Rebuilt Water Pumps','We rebuild water pumps for all makes and models.  Our pricing is available at <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.rctractorwaterpumps.com\">http://www.rctractorwaterpumps.com</a><!-- m -->\r\n\r\nWe ship anywhwere in the U.S.\r\n\r\nRich\r\nRC Remanufacturing\r\nWampum, PA','',0,'','2onbbi4s',1,0,'',184,0,0),(1068,195,1,262,0,'64.33.142.187',1058156633,1,0,1,1,1,0,'jake','','If you get a 2255 with a 3208 cat engine and put a turbo on it and make it run alcohol it will spank any IH CRAP!','',0,'','1s8jot4k',1,0,'',262,0,0),(1069,279,1,254,0,'199.224.87.81',1058224089,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 hard start','I dont have a lot on start up just one cyl. it pops a littel bit .Most of the older diesedl smoke on start up like any low compression diesel (ones with lanova or pre cups ) you will get smoke on a cold day on any diesel\r\nno matter what untill they warm up . And even a high compression diesel (driect injection) will smoke white on a  cold start .white smoke does not always indicate a lack of compression it is a indicator of temp. too wich is related to compression but not allways  the trouble . i donthink it is compression cause it runns like a a bear when you get it going  righ t now i an concerned with the hot start trouble . cause on a hot start i have no smoke at all .and no smell of fuel at the pipe and it wont start on starting fluid when it is hot . John I have a diesel compression tester but not the adaptor for the olivers.','',0,'','1s2harov',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1070,279,1,254,0,'199.224.87.2',1058230638,1,0,1,1,1,0,'slim20','88 hard to start','I checked i still have no fuel pressurs coming to the pump or at hte top of the filter . and some one has ben in the pump cause the seal wire is cut and hanging there.','',0,'','wd6o9as6',1,0,'',254,0,0),(1071,286,1,181,0,'128.104.198.49',1058287116,1,0,1,1,1,0,'TJM','Your link for Oliver doesn&#039;t work','','',0,'0','2wqordwp',1,0,'',181,0,0),(1072,279,1,235,0,'65.173.233.147',1058814443,1,0,1,1,1,0,'chev2500hd','88 diesel hard to start hot','I had the same problem with my 88 diesel but not quite as bad. If it was up to temp. it would not start for about 15 min. I discovered I had an exhause valve spring broke wich required me to send the head in the have new seats put in and had it planed. In addition to that I had the injectors rebuilt because the tips were worn out (my diesel shop warned me because they said if they rebuild the injectors those old bosch pumps may not create enough pressure for the injectors to operate correctly) I put it all back together and turned up the fuel on the pump to compensate for the tighter injectors and now it starts excellent wether it is hot or cold. I can not tell you exactly what solved my problem. I do know that it can get expensive to have the head done but if you have a good diesel shop near you they can test your injectors to see how bad they are. I had mine rebuilt for $15/injector which is relatively inexpensive for these old tractors.','',0,'','f15kxk2l',1,0,'',235,0,0),(1073,279,1,47,0,'65.238.36.188',1058832154,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','On diesel engines my best advice is, if you don&#039;t know what you are doing, let someone who does repair it. I am seeing all sorts of advice concerning injectors, and pumps, this can be a dangerous thing, especially when you go tinkering inside the pump, and don&#039;t understand there is a fuel-air balance that must be kept throughout the power range. Too lean can cook your pistons and valves. Then the next thing will be messing with the governor, whether by purpose or not. I have seen diesel engines come apart like great big hand grenades, due to someone souping them up, it is not a pretty sight, and you definately do not want someone near enough to get hurt, or killed. That would be bad, very bad! There is probably a collector near you who is a diesel technician, maybe even worked for an Oliver dealer, check your HPOCA membership directory, there is probably someone near you who can find someone knowledgable. (If you don&#039;t have a directory, buy one, it is the best 10 bucks you can spend.) I suggest you find such a person, and have your tractor put into factory specs, takes most of the problems out of the equation. Safety First!!!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'','3hwc67b1',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1074,287,3,7,0,'205.188.209.12',1058837727,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John (C-IL)','Back in the saddle again!!!','[i:bzqqmp4v]OH MAN!!!!![/i:bzqqmp4v] I was begiining to have serious withdrawl symptoms. My computer was beginnning to think I was lost. WB.','',0,'IA==','bzqqmp4v',1,0,'',7,0,0),(1075,279,1,96,0,'216.201.29.185',1058839759,1,0,1,1,1,0,'John Schwiebert','Hard starting','How is the cranking speed. You say you do not have fuel pressure at the bleeder screw. I would guess your 88 just has the single filter and the pipe plug above the 5/8 inch hex which you unscrew to change filters. If you have this set up put a good gauge in there and see what you have for primary fuel pressure. Do you have an elbow on the front side of the pump 1/8 inch pipe thread on the end that goes in the pump, 3/16 inverted flare on the other end? This elbow is a special elbow that has a small orfice in it that causes resistance to flow which creates the pressure on the low side. 5-6 pounds of primary side pressure will do it. I will bet that 90% of the pumps have the seal broke. In fact if you have the early Z model pump on an older tractor the smoke screw was on the outside.!','',0,'IA==','1x2xdghu',1,0,'',96,0,0),(1076,287,3,35,0,'67.32.84.224',1058840248,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','web','First thing tomorrow I am cancelling my appointment with the psychiatrist. I doubt he ever heard of Oliver web withdrawal anyway.<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,'IA==','12thd4pd',1,0,'',35,0,0),(1077,287,3,188,0,'64.255.96.59',1058842310,1,0,1,1,1,0,'km','','Frank,   my wife says I can&#039;t cancel my appointment.   Glad to have the site back.','',0,'IA==','1plp9okc',1,0,'',188,0,0),(1078,287,3,47,0,'65.238.36.100',1058844669,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Andy','','Hey Frank,\r\nAre you sure you want to cancel that appointment? After the lawnmower deal, then only 3 people coming to your party in Penfield? That is almost as bad as my luck, and I am considering checking into the psych ward at the VA, post tramatic stress disorder, or some such thing. Well folks, I heard the webhost sent the light bill to the wrong address, then left us in the dark. All is well that ends well!!!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,'IA==','3hven3lh',1,0,'',47,0,0),(1079,287,3,35,0,'67.32.84.224',1058878116,1,0,1,1,1,0,'Frank Dodson','web','Andy, I will keep the shrink appt. in mind however I am not sure they treat stupidity in unloading lawnmowers. I have come to the conclusion that the lawn tractor was out to get me any way. I keep my Oliver 75 all covered in the garage while the JD is placed in the shed. \r\nAs for the meeting I have a solution, the next time I will post that I know where there is a 440 in great shape for $1500 and information will be given at the meeting. Every web member will be there.','',0,'IA==','38vidlum',1,0,'',35,0,0),(1080,288,2,265,0,'63.64.15.182',1058883810,1,0,1,1,1,0,'idlem','AB PSB Pump','I need to replace throttle shaft seal on American Bosch PSB rotary pump with exterior shaft \r\n.Can I do this without removing pump and where can I get new seal.Thanks','',0,'IA==','1h1713d8',1,0,'',265,0,0),