My Dad always referred to  what he went thur in the winter of 60  boot camp.. so  I was just going on what  I was told.   


Marc tries to come off to  the rest of the world as  the Good'ole boy too..  one just out for the fun of it....  thats the toughest ones to get   put out of everyone's missery...     

I understand what your saying  on the   fiscal situation...  and  there are still a lot of  if's aint there?     

talk to you later.