(3131,0,556,0,'',1080534734,1,1,1,1,'1650D questions','Hi John:  I followed you over here from the YT site as I have been to many sites and you seem to be the most knowledgable about these tractors.  I have some fairly specific questions to ask and am wondering if that\'s OK and whether to do thru U2U or via e-mail.  My email is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:gneufeld@hotmail.com\">gneufeld@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n                      Thanks,\r\n                            Greg','',0,0,'gA==','1ot4ii1g',0,0,'u_556','',0),(3153,0,35,0,'',1080614437,1,1,1,1,'Re:','[quote:3ibfxha1]I apologize for using your name in a post w/o\nasking too.   It just torques me that Andy will engage me in argument and not those who may actually be more intelligent then he.   Of course I guess I ask for it.   I think I may have him fairly upset as he doesn\'t even say \"later\" to me anymore. Not that I miss it!\nDanny  [/quote:3ibfxha1]\r\n\r\nDanny,\r\nIt was perfectly alright for you to use my name. By the way for the record I only met Andy at Penfield and have talked to him once after the show before all this came up. \r\nFrank\r\nP.S. I am not sure that I will renew my membership. I still don\'t like the way things are going.','',0,0,'gA==','3ibfxha1',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3167,0,464,0,'',1080696937,1,1,1,1,'Re:','Andy is quality entertainment.  Yet he gives rednecks worldwide, a bad name.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','2p0t9n1g',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3169,0,372,0,'',1080742087,1,1,1,1,'Buried','Danny,\r\n   I\'ll reply over the weekend to your latest e mail.  This has been a tough week at work.  It seems every job in the office has to get out this Friday.\r\n   I have not lost interest in corresponding.\r\n   Bye the way you have made some very classy statements to Chris and Becky and others on the Forum.  My compliments! I have dropped out of the forum discussion because there does not seem to be any way to to get any changes made.  The only statement that I can make that counts is to withhold my dues.\r\n   If you hear about another club starting, I\'d be interested in that.  If your local chapter or any chapter wants to remove itself from hpoca, I\'d join that chapter.  Maybe that could be the start of a new club or of getting a message to the arrogant sobs that run hpoca now.\r\n   Your thoughts?\r\nJohn\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','o3zr1xjb',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3170,0,407,0,'',1080744041,1,1,1,1,'Macks','Hey I was just thinking I have been looking for a B61 in good shape. My dad used to have one. I\'ve got a friend who wants to sell a B30. Its a rare truck, missing some chrome though. Juice brakes, 6 wheel dump, kinda different for its size. 6 cyl flat head. If anyone is interested. I hope to find a cab for my brockway and haul my olivers to shows. 180 cummins and a 10 spd geared for 60mph will take me a while to get there though!It was free I just had to tow it home,got a spare 220 engine for free too. Its a low production truck 1st year of the huskie series, has old style grill and cab with the huskie fenders.  I went down to Olean last weekend and picked up a couple Oliver 80 rc\'s. Route 17 in the southern tier is rough, wish I had a fifth wheel trailer, vs. a reese hitch on my f350.I was thinking the Brockway would actually be smoother. Got any 80\'s down your way? They\'re my favorite model. Not many people really like them though. I got six of em now. Later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','3l25tgff',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3171,0,407,0,'',1080744041,1,1,1,1,'Macks','Hey I was just thinking I have been looking for a B61 in good shape. My dad used to have one. I\'ve got a friend who wants to sell a B30. Its a rare truck, missing some chrome though. Juice brakes, 6 wheel dump, kinda different for its size. 6 cyl flat head. If anyone is interested. I hope to find a cab for my brockway and haul my olivers to shows. 180 cummins and a 10 spd geared for 60mph will take me a while to get there though!It was free I just had to tow it home,got a spare 220 engine for free too. Its a low production truck 1st year of the huskie series, has old style grill and cab with the huskie fenders.  I went down to Olean last weekend and picked up a couple Oliver 80 rc\'s. Route 17 in the southern tier is rough, wish I had a fifth wheel trailer, vs. a reese hitch on my f350.I was thinking the Brockway would actually be smoother. Got any 80\'s down your way? They\'re my favorite model. Not many people really like them though. I got six of em now. Later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','3l25tgff',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3177,0,372,0,'',1080820153,1,1,1,1,'Re: Buried','Danny,\r\n  I don\'t know about the U2U clock but its the middle of the night and I\'m doing storm sewer calculations for a subdivision.  The work will let up soon and I\'ll send you a real e mail.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','i3h2ztrs',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3184,0,142,0,'',1080847029,1,1,1,1,'','Hey Chris,\r\nI have a question for you, totally off the subject for here, but living in Michigain I thought you might know.  Some of my friends are planning a fishing trip to the Detroit River at the end of the month.  I was wondering could this also be the St. Claire River?  They said the closest town was Port Huron.  I\'m just trying to get a grasp of what\'s going on before I head there.  Thanks for any info you have.\r\n                                         Dana','',0,0,'gA==','1y2dutlc',0,0,'u_142','',0),(3185,0,142,0,'',1080847029,1,1,1,1,'','Hey Chris,\r\nI have a question for you, totally off the subject for here, but living in Michigain I thought you might know.  Some of my friends are planning a fishing trip to the Detroit River at the end of the month.  I was wondering could this also be the St. Claire River?  They said the closest town was Port Huron.  I\'m just trying to get a grasp of what\'s going on before I head there.  Thanks for any info you have.\r\n                                         Dana','',0,0,'gA==','1y2dutlc',0,0,'u_142','',0),(3188,0,458,0,'',1080868901,1,1,1,1,'Adress To Send Self-Adreessed Stamped Envelope','John,\r\nii WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEND YOU A SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE FOR THAT INFORMATION.  COULD YOU SEND ME AN ADDRESS ?\r\n\r\nTHANKS,\r\n\r\nJOHN H.','',0,0,'gA==','337ls5yg',0,0,'u_458','',0),(3189,0,458,0,'',1080868901,1,1,1,1,'Adress To Send Self-Adreessed Stamped Envelope','John,\r\nii WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEND YOU A SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE FOR THAT INFORMATION.  COULD YOU SEND ME AN ADDRESS ?\r\n\r\nTHANKS,\r\n\r\nJOHN H.','',0,0,'gA==','337ls5yg',0,0,'u_458','',0),(3191,0,407,0,'',1080871451,1,1,1,1,'email','yeah it gives me fits once and a while, i\'ll give you a holler if I can-Adam','',0,0,'gA==','3fqhaz65',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3203,0,35,0,'',1080952099,1,1,1,1,'Re: Re:','[quote:1oyviz91]Frank tell me the truth. Is there any winning against this guy, Andy.   This reminds me all to much like the open by-laws forum.    Is this the same thing that went on in the closed by-laws forum?\n\nI know you are the guy getting drug around here.  I hope you aren\'t mad at me for this! \n\nAndy did this same thing with Sherry...In one breath he called her his friend and how he is able to seperate  person from issue. Then in the very next he bashes his supposed friend.\n\nI should have called him on it back then but frankly I didn\'t know what was going on.   [/quote:1oyviz91]\r\n\r\nDanny,\r\n\r\nI am certainly not mad. Andy is the type that apparently has to be in front, know more, and have more. I have had experience with his type and there is no winning. In a way I really feel sorry for him. \r\nFrank','',0,0,'gA==','1oyviz91',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3220,0,532,0,'',1080958211,1,1,1,1,'My Address','John,\r\n\r\nMy US mail address is as follows:\r\n\r\nJohn Hrinevich Jr.\r\n5151 Sunlyn Street\r\nGrand Blanc, Michigan  Zip 48439-9505','',0,0,'gA==','3l6qmj3a',0,0,'u_532','',0),(3221,0,532,0,'',1080958211,1,1,1,1,'My Address','John,\r\n\r\nMy US mail address is as follows:\r\n\r\nJohn Hrinevich Jr.\r\n5151 Sunlyn Street\r\nGrand Blanc, Michigan  Zip 48439-9505','',0,0,'gA==','3l6qmj3a',0,0,'u_532','',0),(3222,0,532,0,'',1080958469,1,1,1,1,'Vacuum Gage','John,\r\nI do not have a vacuum gage.  However; I am going to buy one next chance I get.  Would you mind sending your thoughts on how it should be used ?  \r\nI really appreciate your help.\r\nBest Wishes,\r\nJohn H.','',0,0,'gA==','2pspt5ov',0,0,'u_532','',0),(3223,0,532,0,'',1080958469,1,1,1,1,'Vacuum Gage','John,\r\nI do not have a vacuum gage.  However; I am going to buy one next chance I get.  Would you mind sending your thoughts on how it should be used ?  \r\nI really appreciate your help.\r\nBest Wishes,\r\nJohn H.','',0,0,'gA==','2pspt5ov',0,0,'u_532','',0),(3238,0,35,0,'',1081046034,1,1,1,1,'Re: Farmal Cub Built By Cletrac','[quote:11hnrwfa]I agree with you that it is a made up story, I did not do the math also I would like to have the engine number. Yellow cubs are very late and I am not sure but them migh all have the newer C-60 engine. When I was at dana I overhauled some of them cubs as there were a good number of them around Toledo. Also about the same time I think Cletrac was on strike so they would not have been working either. If you are on strike and you wanted to do that I would think you would sent it to some little outfit that was not union, Now do you have that picture book that has the Oliver and Cletrac crawlers in it» Also I have seen a picture of a B model Cletrac that was converted to a 4 wheel drive tractor By Cletrac/Oliver. Also when I was in England to see the new granddaughter I seen a B Cletrac with a 354 Perkins. iti s a nice unit. How you been? John [/quote:11hnrwfa]\r\nJohn,\r\n\r\nI have be doing fine. I have started planning for our local Ruritan tractor show and washer toss in June. I was amused with the picture of the Cub. I grew up in Middle TN which was burley tobacco country. There were several Farmall A\'s Super A\'s, 100\'s 140\'s Cubs few AC B\'s and 3 or 4 Super 44\'s and 2 or 3 440\'s. The Cubs were good at tobacco cultivating but weren\'t especially good for general farm work. As you know the pto turned counter clockwise.\r\nOliver must have experimented a lot during the 50\'s with the Cletrac division. I have a picture of a 801 Ford with the OC4 undercarriage. I believe that if the Oliver and Cletrac engineers had gotten along and White had supported the industrial division the Oliver crawlers and wheel tractors would have out paced Case.\r\nEnjoy your posts please keep it up.\r\nFrank','',0,0,'gA==','11hnrwfa',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3239,0,35,0,'',1081046034,1,1,1,1,'Re: Farmal Cub Built By Cletrac','[quote:11hnrwfa]I agree with you that it is a made up story, I did not do the math also I would like to have the engine number. Yellow cubs are very late and I am not sure but them migh all have the newer C-60 engine. When I was at dana I overhauled some of them cubs as there were a good number of them around Toledo. Also about the same time I think Cletrac was on strike so they would not have been working either. If you are on strike and you wanted to do that I would think you would sent it to some little outfit that was not union, Now do you have that picture book that has the Oliver and Cletrac crawlers in it» Also I have seen a picture of a B model Cletrac that was converted to a 4 wheel drive tractor By Cletrac/Oliver. Also when I was in England to see the new granddaughter I seen a B Cletrac with a 354 Perkins. iti s a nice unit. How you been? John [/quote:11hnrwfa]\r\nJohn,\r\n\r\nI have be doing fine. I have started planning for our local Ruritan tractor show and washer toss in June. I was amused with the picture of the Cub. I grew up in Middle TN which was burley tobacco country. There were several Farmall A\'s Super A\'s, 100\'s 140\'s Cubs few AC B\'s and 3 or 4 Super 44\'s and 2 or 3 440\'s. The Cubs were good at tobacco cultivating but weren\'t especially good for general farm work. As you know the pto turned counter clockwise.\r\nOliver must have experimented a lot during the 50\'s with the Cletrac division. I have a picture of a 801 Ford with the OC4 undercarriage. I believe that if the Oliver and Cletrac engineers had gotten along and White had supported the industrial division the Oliver crawlers and wheel tractors would have out paced Case.\r\nEnjoy your posts please keep it up.\r\nFrank','',0,0,'gA==','11hnrwfa',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3249,0,88,0,'',1081049263,1,1,1,1,'Re: Answer for everything','Unfortunately this looks like a lost cause,,,,if this board has good ol Andy as spokesmouth, what hope is there......\r\n[quote:387mrzvv]I did all I could to avoid him at Landis\'s. I succeeded... I did see him and he looked....well yeah...like some one I should avoid![/quote:387mrzvv]','',0,0,'gA==','387mrzvv',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3252,0,40,0,'',1081083036,1,1,1,1,'By-laws','Ed:\r\n\r\nSince you missed the general meeting in PA can you do me a favor?\r\n\r\nI was supposed to be on the by-laws committee, but did not make it for various resasons.  Anyway the way the revised by-laws were presented at the meeting was not very good.  So I\'m kind of glad that I was not on the committee.\r\n\r\nThe favor I want you to do is get on the HPOCA forum and ask Andy when he is going to post a copy of the proposed revised by-laws for members to review.  I would but he would probably not like it too much.  He and Danny are having an exchange about it now on the thread that my brother started.\r\n\r\nThanks. \r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'gA==','33r4gb7o',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3253,0,40,0,'',1081083036,1,1,1,1,'By-laws','Ed:\r\n\r\nSince you missed the general meeting in PA can you do me a favor?\r\n\r\nI was supposed to be on the by-laws committee, but did not make it for various resasons.  Anyway the way the revised by-laws were presented at the meeting was not very good.  So I\'m kind of glad that I was not on the committee.\r\n\r\nThe favor I want you to do is get on the HPOCA forum and ask Andy when he is going to post a copy of the proposed revised by-laws for members to review.  I would but he would probably not like it too much.  He and Danny are having an exchange about it now on the thread that my brother started.\r\n\r\nThanks. \r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'gA==','33r4gb7o',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3283,0,407,0,'',1081093743,1,1,1,1,'email','I got your email, have you gotten the one I just sent?','',0,0,'gA==','3qloewua',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3287,0,407,0,'',1081093893,1,1,1,1,'','Ok, my father thinks the magazine looks pretty thin, like 1993 thin. He just stays out of it. Busy with the NY steam engine association and his Hart Parr 18-36, and keeping up with repairs on the bulldozers and scrapers. I\'m the one that looks and occasionally runs my mouth.','',0,0,'gA==','33o49goj',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3290,0,407,0,'',1081094106,1,1,1,1,'Richmond VA','Andy, do you get out to richmond va often?I got some rear steel wheels to get. 80 row crop. Let me know-Adam','',0,0,'gA==','eyusyoh4',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3291,0,407,0,'',1081094106,1,1,1,1,'Richmond VA','Andy, do you get out to richmond va often?I got some rear steel wheels to get. 80 row crop. Let me know-Adam','',0,0,'gA==','eyusyoh4',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3293,0,407,0,'',1081094201,1,1,1,1,'pulling','no I don\'t pull. Never really got into it. Plowing and fitting my old girls do. Well I gotta go. talk to ya later-Adam','',0,0,'gA==','1i1n8unc',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3299,0,372,0,'',1081095409,1,1,1,1,'Re: Buried','Congratulations.  there is an e mail from hotmail on its way to you.\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n[quote:3bb7plcx]Hey sent you an email.   I\'m BACK!!! Thanks to Chris Losey[/quote:3bb7plcx]','',0,0,'gA==','3bb7plcx',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3300,0,407,0,'',1081095689,1,1,1,1,'','Sorry thought you lived in VA got to thinking that\'s west virginia you\'re in sorry again. Adam','',0,0,'gA==','wch1nrcz',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3301,0,407,0,'',1081095689,1,1,1,1,'','Sorry thought you lived in VA got to thinking that\'s west virginia you\'re in sorry again. Adam','',0,0,'gA==','wch1nrcz',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3310,0,407,0,'',1081113609,1,1,1,1,'MY 18-28 progress','Been a bit slow lately with the ol 18-28. Got my fenders primed. Had to go to a antique tractor parts yard near here and rob the floor boards and fenders off another one. I still have to make one floor board, or do alot of repair to one but have all of the pieces now. Didn\'t realize the early 18-28\'s had another support than ran under the outer edge of the fender, attaching to the ends of the irons. I\'m going to neglect that on my reassembly. Found that on my tractor and two parts tractors all had the same thing. I thought it was a riggin someone did.Got 4 parts tractors at my disposal anyway. One 1930, (2) 1931, and a 35. #800221, 744,753, 1492  are the ser#\'s. I just picked up my 2 80 row crops, got the 18-36 HP running, just decals and touch ups and thats done. So I\'ve been busy. I don\'t blame you on the forum. I find I rather stick to fixing and conversation rather than controversey. I get flustered at times, at one side and then the other. So I stay out. Well good luck, you guys get those bylaws done for the show and that is all that matters, accepted or not. People who want to have a fit might just as well hear what thier crying about first, is my opinion. Oh well I\'m an idiot or at least my state is!  C-ya later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','1mtd2u89',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3311,0,407,0,'',1081113609,1,1,1,1,'MY 18-28 progress','Been a bit slow lately with the ol 18-28. Got my fenders primed. Had to go to a antique tractor parts yard near here and rob the floor boards and fenders off another one. I still have to make one floor board, or do alot of repair to one but have all of the pieces now. Didn\'t realize the early 18-28\'s had another support than ran under the outer edge of the fender, attaching to the ends of the irons. I\'m going to neglect that on my reassembly. Found that on my tractor and two parts tractors all had the same thing. I thought it was a riggin someone did.Got 4 parts tractors at my disposal anyway. One 1930, (2) 1931, and a 35. #800221, 744,753, 1492  are the ser#\'s. I just picked up my 2 80 row crops, got the 18-36 HP running, just decals and touch ups and thats done. So I\'ve been busy. I don\'t blame you on the forum. I find I rather stick to fixing and conversation rather than controversey. I get flustered at times, at one side and then the other. So I stay out. Well good luck, you guys get those bylaws done for the show and that is all that matters, accepted or not. People who want to have a fit might just as well hear what thier crying about first, is my opinion. Oh well I\'m an idiot or at least my state is!  C-ya later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','1mtd2u89',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3344,0,562,0,'',1081125284,1,1,1,1,'Oliver 60 valves','John,\r\nWas emailing about the valves you used in your 60. I think you said you used some sort of Olds valves. Any help you could give would be appreciated. I\'ve got my short block about ready to go together but am at a bit of a stand still on the head. \r\nThanks,\r\nD. Stewart','',0,0,'gA==','27zamik1',0,0,'u_562','',0),(3345,0,562,0,'',1081125284,1,1,1,1,'Oliver 60 valves','John,\r\nWas emailing about the valves you used in your 60. I think you said you used some sort of Olds valves. Any help you could give would be appreciated. I\'ve got my short block about ready to go together but am at a bit of a stand still on the head. \r\nThanks,\r\nD. Stewart','',0,0,'gA==','27zamik1',0,0,'u_562','',0),(3346,0,40,0,'',1081125517,1,1,1,1,'Re:','Ed:\r\n\r\nThat was good.  Just what I wanted.  Now I can jump in and make a couple of comments.\r\n\r\nI don\'t really understand why Andy has the attitude that  he does, but maybe we can get him to put a synopsis of the proposed changes on web.\r\n\r\nHave you ever thought about running for president?  Might not win but you\'d probably get some good disscussion going.\r\n\r\nTo tell the truth I think the VP would be pretty good as president.  But he does not want to run.  I was talking to him about a week ago and he does not think Terry will run.  I agree with that.  I just don\'t like they way he won\'t stand up and be counted..\r\n\r\nAfter we beat the HPOCA by-laws up for awhile we should switch over to the by-laws for the muesuem foundation.  They had a draft at the meeting but not enough copies for everyone.\r\n\r\nThanks.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt\r\n[quote:djtnl6li]Is that basically what you wanted to say??[/quote:djtnl6li]','',0,0,'gA==','djtnl6li',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3347,0,40,0,'',1081125517,1,1,1,1,'Re:','Ed:\r\n\r\nThat was good.  Just what I wanted.  Now I can jump in and make a couple of comments.\r\n\r\nI don\'t really understand why Andy has the attitude that  he does, but maybe we can get him to put a synopsis of the proposed changes on web.\r\n\r\nHave you ever thought about running for president?  Might not win but you\'d probably get some good disscussion going.\r\n\r\nTo tell the truth I think the VP would be pretty good as president.  But he does not want to run.  I was talking to him about a week ago and he does not think Terry will run.  I agree with that.  I just don\'t like they way he won\'t stand up and be counted..\r\n\r\nAfter we beat the HPOCA by-laws up for awhile we should switch over to the by-laws for the muesuem foundation.  They had a draft at the meeting but not enough copies for everyone.\r\n\r\nThanks.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt\r\n[quote:djtnl6li]Is that basically what you wanted to say??[/quote:djtnl6li]','',0,0,'gA==','djtnl6li',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3355,0,407,0,'',1081171037,1,1,1,1,'Oliver 80','I\'ll get you the fellows phone # it is 30 miles west of Richmond. I have a picture of the tractor before it was taken apart I\'ll send you later. Had an unexpected problem with my truck so I\'ll have to wait on buying it a few weeks.Damn ford oil pans. If you wanted the tractor ok, If not I\'m interested in the whole thing or just the rear steel wheels. He\'s gonna part it out, seems a shame for the money. Later Adam','',0,0,'gA==','3u1s6d28',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3357,0,372,0,'',1081176195,1,1,1,1,'Re: Buried','Danny,\r\n   Don\'t worry about how people may have taken your statements on friendship.  I\'m sure that people see you as genuine and Andy as someone who holds himself up as something really special -- until something like the Bylaws work has to be done.  Then its everbody else\'s fault.  I would not waste my energy talking to that character.  Andy is the one that looked pitiable (as he usually does).  The man is too insecure for words.  I\'ll bet that even Terry wishes that Andy would just shut up and stop the useless posturing.\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:18sedz3p]Thanks for the email.  What you said about pitying him. Is excactly what Frank said. I really started too halfway thru the...whatever you want to call that, we had. \nSort of glad its over. I know Andy tried to make me look everything from- too#$#$ but I think I came out okay and got my point across.  [/quote:18sedz3p]','',0,0,'gA==','18sedz3p',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3371,0,407,0,'',1081208602,1,1,1,1,'oliver 80','The axles have about 3 or 4 inches cut off at the ends he told me. The mans number is 1-804-556-4750. I sent you a picture before it was taken apart. I hope you got it. The front wheels he said he changed to 1828. I\'ll have to ask on the correct front wheels. Adam','',0,0,'gA==','822a1pwl',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3372,0,65,0,'',1081216676,1,1,1,1,'stuff','Don\'t the renegades get to you ! I think that they are just playing you for the fool on thier threads its beginning to get a little tiring on thier posts. My e mail is down right now so had to chat here. Grant ps Did you get the job of moving in the govenors new mansion ? Double wide this time?','',0,0,'gA==','1stuxhsz',0,0,'u_65','',0),(3381,0,464,0,'',1081221888,1,1,1,1,'Why Wast Your Breath','Don\'t waste your breath on Andy.  He just digs himself deeper and deeper into the mire.  And Did you see his reply to me (re, pass alarms, FD, ect.)  What drugs has he been on?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','24ybom1s',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3396,0,40,0,'',1081275968,1,1,1,1,'Re:','Andy:\r\n\r\nI got your message.  I do think that there is always more than one way to skin a cat.  I would agree with you that with this group you have to watch where your going.  \r\n\r\nI like the web as a way for thoughts to get out to the members.  Even though it may be most of the same guys posting I do think a lot of other members look at it.\r\n\r\nAs much as the Tablors can be a pain where you sit I wish we could convince them to stay in.  You have to have members that are interested to keep the club alive in the future.  The old guys will be gone and no one will pick up the slack.\r\n\r\nIf the magazine keeps getting better and gets delivered a little quicker I think things will get better.\r\n\r\nHave you heard of anyone wanting to start a new national club?  I haven\'t.  I really think that would be bad for both.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt\r\n\r\n[quote:2w1kqvu0]Hey Bill,\nI thought it might be a good thing if you knew what my objective is, and the tactic I am attempting to use. There are several older members who set up HPOCA, it is my opinion that it was set up to maintain control, when you take an in depth view at the structure, this is pretty obvious. My objective is to break this control structure. I know most of those who support the structure the way it is, they are not on the committee, but I do have a fence sitter or two, but they will go with the majority. It is very important that don\'t let the cat out of the bag too soon, as the old school guys know very well how to manuveur around, and manipulate. They don\'t want to have their holy grail adulterated. I know this, I sat at Lancaster with one if them and was told all sort of provisions that they had made in the bylaws, most of these I had already caught, and got changes made. I\'ll discuss that the next time we can talk. \nAnyhow, my tactic is to weaken or eliminate this hold, that is all that I hope to accomplish. To do this, first appointed directors has to go, we have got that thru committee. Next is to change nomination procedure, I got that thru, but as a compromise. I wanted direct, but accepted a compromise that eliminates an appointed nominating committee, and replaces it with one which consists of volunteer from the floor, drawn from a pool by lot. Just these two things give the members back considerable control of the organization. Another biggie is to allow the bylaws to supercede Robert\'s. A couple of those guys are expert parliamentarians, they put that in there for a reason. I asked one of them about it, stating my suspicion, the whiskey was talking for him pretty well, and he confirmed my suspicion.\nI want to get a specific procedure on amending bylaws worked up, which will empower the membership, and get that thru committee. I have some ideas, but they would undo the current procedure considerably, as well as tie up some loose ends that were left that way on purpose. \nI mentioned opening a door, this is the door.\nOnce opened, the members will not allow it to be closed. I hope you understand this, and I hope you understand I should exercise caution, not to be blindsided.\nIf we can make these changes, and open these doors, other things can be done later. I have had an ongoing battle for the last 7 or 8 years, to give back the association to the members, all I have gotten was small concessions, and lots of lip service. So, I have found the last 2 or 3 years that the slow quiet approach works better, that raising a big ruckus. I even got the Iowa Attorney General\'s office on them at one time, most haven\'t forgotten that one. They offered benefits to the members, published them, and couldn\'t or wouldn\'t deliver.\nYou got a sample in your 45 minutes what I have been up against. Of course, I am not going to show my hand, you did that, see what happened, nothing! I did agree with you on most of the procedural issues you raised. I couldn\'t say anything, or I would jeopardize what I am trying to do. They would circle the wagons so fast it wouldn\'t be funny! They would somehow get to the other committee members, and convince them I was up to no good. The committee is totally independant from the board, does not report to them either. That doesn\'t mean it is not watched, it is. All that means is a different strategy has to be used. Let them watch, let \'em see what they want to see, then do what needs done for the members.\nI hope you will keep this in confidence, I just figured you should know there are reasons for why I do, what I do. What I do can ruffle feathers. And no, you were not left out on purpose, we didn\'t communicate as we should, you are still in.\nAfter all, you were the only member who volunteered for my committee, you didn\'t ask to be on it, just offered assistance. All the others I had to hunt out. Don\'t think I forgot about that! Thanks!!!!\nI will let you know when we meet again, hopefully after the next board meeting.\nWell, I need shut eye, gotta be 150 miles from here at 8AM, and I\'ve been turning big wrenches all day.\nHave a great day!!!\nLater, Andy[/quote:2w1kqvu0]','',0,0,'gA==','2w1kqvu0',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3397,0,40,0,'',1081275968,1,1,1,1,'Re:','Andy:\r\n\r\nI got your message.  I do think that there is always more than one way to skin a cat.  I would agree with you that with this group you have to watch where your going.  \r\n\r\nI like the web as a way for thoughts to get out to the members.  Even though it may be most of the same guys posting I do think a lot of other members look at it.\r\n\r\nAs much as the Tablors can be a pain where you sit I wish we could convince them to stay in.  You have to have members that are interested to keep the club alive in the future.  The old guys will be gone and no one will pick up the slack.\r\n\r\nIf the magazine keeps getting better and gets delivered a little quicker I think things will get better.\r\n\r\nHave you heard of anyone wanting to start a new national club?  I haven\'t.  I really think that would be bad for both.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt\r\n\r\n[quote:2w1kqvu0]Hey Bill,\nI thought it might be a good thing if you knew what my objective is, and the tactic I am attempting to use. There are several older members who set up HPOCA, it is my opinion that it was set up to maintain control, when you take an in depth view at the structure, this is pretty obvious. My objective is to break this control structure. I know most of those who support the structure the way it is, they are not on the committee, but I do have a fence sitter or two, but they will go with the majority. It is very important that don\'t let the cat out of the bag too soon, as the old school guys know very well how to manuveur around, and manipulate. They don\'t want to have their holy grail adulterated. I know this, I sat at Lancaster with one if them and was told all sort of provisions that they had made in the bylaws, most of these I had already caught, and got changes made. I\'ll discuss that the next time we can talk. \nAnyhow, my tactic is to weaken or eliminate this hold, that is all that I hope to accomplish. To do this, first appointed directors has to go, we have got that thru committee. Next is to change nomination procedure, I got that thru, but as a compromise. I wanted direct, but accepted a compromise that eliminates an appointed nominating committee, and replaces it with one which consists of volunteer from the floor, drawn from a pool by lot. Just these two things give the members back considerable control of the organization. Another biggie is to allow the bylaws to supercede Robert\'s. A couple of those guys are expert parliamentarians, they put that in there for a reason. I asked one of them about it, stating my suspicion, the whiskey was talking for him pretty well, and he confirmed my suspicion.\nI want to get a specific procedure on amending bylaws worked up, which will empower the membership, and get that thru committee. I have some ideas, but they would undo the current procedure considerably, as well as tie up some loose ends that were left that way on purpose. \nI mentioned opening a door, this is the door.\nOnce opened, the members will not allow it to be closed. I hope you understand this, and I hope you understand I should exercise caution, not to be blindsided.\nIf we can make these changes, and open these doors, other things can be done later. I have had an ongoing battle for the last 7 or 8 years, to give back the association to the members, all I have gotten was small concessions, and lots of lip service. So, I have found the last 2 or 3 years that the slow quiet approach works better, that raising a big ruckus. I even got the Iowa Attorney General\'s office on them at one time, most haven\'t forgotten that one. They offered benefits to the members, published them, and couldn\'t or wouldn\'t deliver.\nYou got a sample in your 45 minutes what I have been up against. Of course, I am not going to show my hand, you did that, see what happened, nothing! I did agree with you on most of the procedural issues you raised. I couldn\'t say anything, or I would jeopardize what I am trying to do. They would circle the wagons so fast it wouldn\'t be funny! They would somehow get to the other committee members, and convince them I was up to no good. The committee is totally independant from the board, does not report to them either. That doesn\'t mean it is not watched, it is. All that means is a different strategy has to be used. Let them watch, let \'em see what they want to see, then do what needs done for the members.\nI hope you will keep this in confidence, I just figured you should know there are reasons for why I do, what I do. What I do can ruffle feathers. And no, you were not left out on purpose, we didn\'t communicate as we should, you are still in.\nAfter all, you were the only member who volunteered for my committee, you didn\'t ask to be on it, just offered assistance. All the others I had to hunt out. Don\'t think I forgot about that! Thanks!!!!\nI will let you know when we meet again, hopefully after the next board meeting.\nWell, I need shut eye, gotta be 150 miles from here at 8AM, and I\'ve been turning big wrenches all day.\nHave a great day!!!\nLater, Andy[/quote:2w1kqvu0]','',0,0,'gA==','2w1kqvu0',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3405,0,464,0,'',1081295824,1,1,1,1,'Re: Why Wast Your Breath','I can\'t make heads or tails out of what he says (and this is both BEFORE I take my morphine for my chronic leg pain as well as AFTER I have it in my system), so I can attest that being ON drugs won\'t help.  The device he speaks of is called a PASS alarm (named after the company that developed it).  Before I hurt my knee, I was a very active volunteer.\r\nAnyhow, hopefully he is busy driving his truck and we won\'t have to hear from him.\r\nBTW, did you read Danny\'s post about the carrier pigeons?  He can be funny at times.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','2wkmcvv9',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3419,0,372,0,'',1081344080,1,1,1,1,'Re: Buried','Danny,\r\n   I\'ll e mail back over the weekend.  Looks like the forum is heating up a little with Keith.  I still don\'t have any hope for changes to be made. \r\nJohn\r\n[quote:2gybsaey]Hey I sent you an email over you hotmail. I have your work email but i figure I\'ll stay on hotmail. Don\'t want to take you away from Work.   \n\n[/quote:2gybsaey]','',0,0,'gA==','2gybsaey',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3420,0,407,0,'',1081345054,1,1,1,1,'wheels','I have a 24in rear round spoke thats good, one junk, and a rear 28 in thats good, the other could be saved with a lot of work. I have a front hub to an 80 rc just one. I\'d have to put 1828 wheels on the front then though. \r\n\r\nMy Ford isnt as bad as I thought, needs an oil pan and gasket so I bought those rear steel on that 80. The tractor is completly dissassembled he said last night. Ed can get the wheels for me so it works out well. The man had to cut the axles off to get the wheels off but they were on the ends of the axle at least so i\'ll have to get the axles pressed out when I get em. I have 4 1828 parts tractors, one is mine, the other 3 are 45min away, as well as an 1827 and a cockshutt 80 standard parts tractors 20 min away. Let me know if you need anything. Later, Adam Whyte','',0,0,'gA==','oj690f7f',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3421,0,407,0,'',1081345054,1,1,1,1,'wheels','I have a 24in rear round spoke thats good, one junk, and a rear 28 in thats good, the other could be saved with a lot of work. I have a front hub to an 80 rc just one. I\'d have to put 1828 wheels on the front then though. \r\n\r\nMy Ford isnt as bad as I thought, needs an oil pan and gasket so I bought those rear steel on that 80. The tractor is completly dissassembled he said last night. Ed can get the wheels for me so it works out well. The man had to cut the axles off to get the wheels off but they were on the ends of the axle at least so i\'ll have to get the axles pressed out when I get em. I have 4 1828 parts tractors, one is mine, the other 3 are 45min away, as well as an 1827 and a cockshutt 80 standard parts tractors 20 min away. Let me know if you need anything. Later, Adam Whyte','',0,0,'gA==','oj690f7f',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3435,0,35,0,'',1081389759,1,1,1,1,'Re: Re:','[quote:1r4brztd]Can I send you an email?     I have a question about something I noticed in the magazine and don\'t really trust these u2u\'s.    I need your intellect to analyze if I\'m way off base or not!!![/quote:1r4brztd]\r\n\r\nMy email is dodsonf@bellsouth. net. I haven\'t been active lately since I can down with viral pneumonia. I am getting better.\r\nFrank','',0,0,'gA==','1r4brztd',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3437,0,372,0,'',1081459088,1,1,1,1,'Re: heres an answer for ya','Danny,\r\n   Can you e mail me with more detail on this.  If I understand you correctly, this puts a whole new spin on this crazy thing.  I would not want to embarras anyone here --- well except for one particularly obnoxious genius.\r\nJohn\r\n\r\nuote]I can answer the prior editor question.\r\n\r\nHe had called her for 30 days straight and sent flowers during that time...She had to ask the board to call off the \"dog\"     She rejected him!!!! That explains his bitterness towards her.      I didn\'t use names here for obvious reasons[/quote]','',0,0,'','21ek7b9u',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3439,0,372,0,'',1081459249,1,1,1,1,'Re: Buried','Pretty funny. Thanks, I needed that.\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:2qxrswhd]What did you think of my silly post.   Too much going on I needed to write something to make me laugh but also be a little sarcastic.[/quote:2qxrswhd]','',0,0,'gA==','2qxrswhd',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3448,0,230,0,'',1081466811,1,1,1,1,'Re: 550 upgrades','Doug,\r\n\r\nsorry for not checking my emails here.  The upgrade went well.\r\n\r\nThe backfiring is finally being fixed...there are a lot of things wrong with the engine right now....all are minor adjustments.\r\n\r\nValve lash, advancing spark, etc, etc....did you rebuild your ignition system?\r\n\r\nI really really really like the alternator kit....man, that sucker finally charges.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeff\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:3dg84hpa]I\'m at the stage of deciding whether or not to do the upgrades on my 550 that you have just gone through. I want to convert to a NEG ground system, install an alternator, and try the electronic ignition upgrade. Can you tell me whether you have resolved your backfiring problem and what are the pitfalls in doing each of these upgrades? \nThanks[/quote:3dg84hpa]','',0,0,'gA==','3dg84hpa',0,0,'u_230','',0),(3453,0,372,0,'',1081515395,1,1,1,1,'Re: heres an answer for ya','Danny,\r\nI\'m anxiously waiting\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n[quote:2rsdumng]Hey I started the email but I must get to bed. So I will have to finish it tomorrow.  Hate to keep you in suspense. Sort of like a soap opera.....AS OUR STOMACH CHURNS... I\'m certain we can think of a better title than that!!!\nDanny[/quote:2rsdumng]','',0,0,'gA==','2rsdumng',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3455,0,372,0,'',1081516468,1,1,1,1,'have a nice Good Friday','Danny,\r\n   I\'m not so sure about the security of this message board.  Are you listening chris?\r\n   I have to say that I am impressed with the contacts and the amount of information that you are able to get.  I would not want to intrude on her privacy but this could wake up some of our sleeping members.  Looking for your e mail.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','183o5v9i',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3473,0,372,0,'',1081612570,1,1,1,1,'Re: have a nice Good Friday','Danny,\r\n   Have a nice easter as well.  I sent you an e mail.  You can rely on my descretion.  I doubt that you could embarass him off the board.  He likes the spotlight so well he will be the board\'s clown or just any clown at all.  Sick individual.  As a happily married man, I surely hope that she has a lot better range of choices than him when or if she decides to marry.\r\n   The hpoca forum is OK to look at but I see no reason personally to post.   To me verbal jousting with him is just a waste of time.  The real players on the board are laying low until this blows over.  Let me amend that --- this hpoca forum  may be useful in uniting the Renagades to start a separate organization.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','9sru2gvw',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3474,0,35,0,'',1081627427,1,1,1,1,'550','I thought I would send you an U2U instead of posting. Mine is a 1964 model also that was sold in Canada. Apparently there were a few Olivers sent to Canada and they were given the additional name Special. My model number is 55-2103 and serial is 149805-019. This tractor seems to go faster in 6th than other 550\'s. It does not have quick adjust wheels, or power steering however it does have the swinging drawbar. The tractor was in original lcondition  when I bought it. It had the original back tires and one front tire.\r\nThis may be of some help:\r\nMaibach Tractor (Tom) I bought the paint, hydraulic filter and safety starting switch. Tom is extremely helpful and knows Olivers. I found the paint to be top quality for the cost. I put hardener in the paint. I painted an Oliver 75 lawn tractor and I used clear coat. I can\'t see paying the price for Dupont paint. You can reach Maibach at 800-808-9934.\r\nKorves Oliver 618-939-6681-- I bought the steering wheel and the pto safety shield.\r\nDumont Oliver Decals 641-622-2592--I bought the decals from the Dumonts. The Special\'s decals are somewhat different and they had them special made. My fiber glass grill was in perfect  condition therefore I was spared that expense. The Dumonts also sell reproduction grills.\r\nI put new Firestone tires on the tractor.\r\nI did have the carb. rebuilt this past summer and Tom from Maibach took care of it.\r\nHope this helps.','',0,0,'gA==','34qi0rdt',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3475,0,35,0,'',1081627427,1,1,1,1,'550','I thought I would send you an U2U instead of posting. Mine is a 1964 model also that was sold in Canada. Apparently there were a few Olivers sent to Canada and they were given the additional name Special. My model number is 55-2103 and serial is 149805-019. This tractor seems to go faster in 6th than other 550\'s. It does not have quick adjust wheels, or power steering however it does have the swinging drawbar. The tractor was in original lcondition  when I bought it. It had the original back tires and one front tire.\r\nThis may be of some help:\r\nMaibach Tractor (Tom) I bought the paint, hydraulic filter and safety starting switch. Tom is extremely helpful and knows Olivers. I found the paint to be top quality for the cost. I put hardener in the paint. I painted an Oliver 75 lawn tractor and I used clear coat. I can\'t see paying the price for Dupont paint. You can reach Maibach at 800-808-9934.\r\nKorves Oliver 618-939-6681-- I bought the steering wheel and the pto safety shield.\r\nDumont Oliver Decals 641-622-2592--I bought the decals from the Dumonts. The Special\'s decals are somewhat different and they had them special made. My fiber glass grill was in perfect  condition therefore I was spared that expense. The Dumonts also sell reproduction grills.\r\nI put new Firestone tires on the tractor.\r\nI did have the carb. rebuilt this past summer and Tom from Maibach took care of it.\r\nHope this helps.','',0,0,'gA==','34qi0rdt',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3480,0,35,0,'',1081652998,1,1,1,1,'','Ed,\r\nCan things get any worse? If the current board sets up a foundation I really believe it will be an end to the organization. I still haven\'t decided if I will renew. We gave Andy(SUPREME KNOW IT ALL) some good suggestions but as you know they were thrown out the window. \r\nIt will take a lot of money to build and operate a museum. I feel that a museum is in order but as with other foundations it should be run with a completely different board.\r\nIt is too bad that this had to happen. I feel that if we could put up a strong front we could have petitioned AGCO to rename a series of tractors with the Oliver logo as Case/International did with the Farmall.\r\nI hope that Sherry will have great success with her magazine. Maybe we can get together through OLIVER HERITAGE and get a lot done.\r\nRenegade Frank','',0,0,'gA==','2xexw778',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3481,0,35,0,'',1081652998,1,1,1,1,'','Ed,\r\nCan things get any worse? If the current board sets up a foundation I really believe it will be an end to the organization. I still haven\'t decided if I will renew. We gave Andy(SUPREME KNOW IT ALL) some good suggestions but as you know they were thrown out the window. \r\nIt will take a lot of money to build and operate a museum. I feel that a museum is in order but as with other foundations it should be run with a completely different board.\r\nIt is too bad that this had to happen. I feel that if we could put up a strong front we could have petitioned AGCO to rename a series of tractors with the Oliver logo as Case/International did with the Farmall.\r\nI hope that Sherry will have great success with her magazine. Maybe we can get together through OLIVER HERITAGE and get a lot done.\r\nRenegade Frank','',0,0,'gA==','2xexw778',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3485,0,35,0,'',1081654164,1,1,1,1,'Re:','[quote:x4punntb]Hi Frank,\n   Are you feeling any better?\n\nI guess they have answered my questions by not responding to Ed Brandts post. What do you think?\nDanny[/quote:x4punntb]\r\nDanny,\r\nI am feeling some better however it will be several days before I am up to speed. I had viral pneumonia. I also have a pacemaker and with the heart medication I take sometimes lowers my resistance.\r\nI believe you are on target with this bunch and if they ever get their hands on the amount of money needed to operate a foundation it will be a mess.\r\nI hope to do some visiting when we are up north. I will email you. I think we will be there the first week of July.\r\nRenegade Frank','',0,0,'gA==','x4punntb',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3488,0,65,0,'',1081702467,1,1,1,1,'Re: stuff','[quote:nodpbao1]No, Home depot is bringing it on a straight truck, he will have to put the woodstove in, and his own TV, and rockin\' chair!! I figure those guys are playing some sort of a game. They might think I\'m a fool, but I have the cards, I can deal or not, and any good dealer can make the cards do what they are supposed to. I guess those guys are deaf, dumb, and blind, or just don\'t pay attention. What they don\'t realize or don\'t want to is I have given them the option to break the status quo! It would be good if knowledgable members would mention that this is a good thing that hasn\'t been available to the members. But, they probably won\'t listen, all they want is anarchy! No, I won\'t quit, I\'ll finish it out, but I want them to know I have that option. I can arrange to give them nothing, and I would, but where would that leave the good solid members? I intend that they get something out of all this!\nHave you seen Cookie lately? Tell him HI! for me, and best wishes next time you see him!\nDon\'t drink too much of that rye, drives a man crazy!!!!!\nTake Care!  Later, Andy[/quote:nodpbao1]','',0,0,'gA==','nodpbao1',0,0,'u_65','',0),(3490,0,65,0,'',1081703127,1,1,1,1,'Forum','Oh I have had to bite my tongue and hard to keep from saying what I want to because Chris would have to deleate a lot of my post then. And do I ever want to post on the 15th. Where is the new oliver heritage magazine???  Sent a email to Sherry as my server caught a virus from her web site and inquired about new mag. She said at the printers now! Havn\'t talked to cookie lately as I\'m stealing a 66 orchard out of his back yard and till its on my trailer not letting him know! Although I may stop on the way home. Glad govener is getting new place ,more tornado proof than last place. While at the race in tenn. met up with north carolin fellow who had a little sipping shine now that is different than rye!','',0,0,'gA==','2tch25fv',0,0,'u_65','',0),(3492,0,381,0,'',1081708246,1,1,1,1,'Re: 550','Thanks for the suggestion about Maibach.  Mine came from KY and the PTO clutch is shot, but I found one on EBay just recently.  There is a fellow southeast of me that does overhaul work for cash on the side, so I\'m going to talk with him about doing the work.  There was another fellow just down the road from him, but his shop (actually his barn) was a mess ... and although he might do good work, I\'m a little hesitant to use him.  Anyway, this summer I\'m going to have the tractor overhauled and hopefully painted.  It\'s really going to a working tractor for me, with more power than my 8N,\r\n\r\n[quote:k6cxuyu8]I thought I would send you an U2U instead of posting. Mine is a 1964 model also that was sold in Canada. Apparently there were a few Olivers sent to Canada and they were given the additional name Special. My model number is 55-2103 and serial is 149805-019. This tractor seems to go faster in 6th than other 550\'s. It does not have quick adjust wheels, or power steering however it does have the swinging drawbar. The tractor was in original lcondition  when I bought it. It had the original back tires and one front tire.\nThis may be of some help:\nMaibach Tractor (Tom) I bought the paint, hydraulic filter and safety starting switch. Tom is extremely helpful and knows Olivers. I found the paint to be top quality for the cost. I put hardener in the paint. I painted an Oliver 75 lawn tractor and I used clear coat. I can\'t see paying the price for Dupont paint. You can reach Maibach at 800-808-9934.\nKorves Oliver 618-939-6681-- I bought the steering wheel and the pto safety shield.\nDumont Oliver Decals 641-622-2592--I bought the decals from the Dumonts. The Special\'s decals are somewhat different and they had them special made. My fiber glass grill was in perfect  condition therefore I was spared that expense. The Dumonts also sell reproduction grills.\nI put new Firestone tires on the tractor.\nI did have the carb. rebuilt this past summer and Tom from Maibach took care of it.\nHope this helps.\n[/quote:k6cxuyu8]','',0,0,'gA==','k6cxuyu8',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3493,0,381,0,'',1081708246,1,1,1,1,'Re: 550','Thanks for the suggestion about Maibach.  Mine came from KY and the PTO clutch is shot, but I found one on EBay just recently.  There is a fellow southeast of me that does overhaul work for cash on the side, so I\'m going to talk with him about doing the work.  There was another fellow just down the road from him, but his shop (actually his barn) was a mess ... and although he might do good work, I\'m a little hesitant to use him.  Anyway, this summer I\'m going to have the tractor overhauled and hopefully painted.  It\'s really going to a working tractor for me, with more power than my 8N,\r\n\r\n[quote:k6cxuyu8]I thought I would send you an U2U instead of posting. Mine is a 1964 model also that was sold in Canada. Apparently there were a few Olivers sent to Canada and they were given the additional name Special. My model number is 55-2103 and serial is 149805-019. This tractor seems to go faster in 6th than other 550\'s. It does not have quick adjust wheels, or power steering however it does have the swinging drawbar. The tractor was in original lcondition  when I bought it. It had the original back tires and one front tire.\nThis may be of some help:\nMaibach Tractor (Tom) I bought the paint, hydraulic filter and safety starting switch. Tom is extremely helpful and knows Olivers. I found the paint to be top quality for the cost. I put hardener in the paint. I painted an Oliver 75 lawn tractor and I used clear coat. I can\'t see paying the price for Dupont paint. You can reach Maibach at 800-808-9934.\nKorves Oliver 618-939-6681-- I bought the steering wheel and the pto safety shield.\nDumont Oliver Decals 641-622-2592--I bought the decals from the Dumonts. The Special\'s decals are somewhat different and they had them special made. My fiber glass grill was in perfect  condition therefore I was spared that expense. The Dumonts also sell reproduction grills.\nI put new Firestone tires on the tractor.\nI did have the carb. rebuilt this past summer and Tom from Maibach took care of it.\nHope this helps.\n[/quote:k6cxuyu8]','',0,0,'gA==','k6cxuyu8',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3498,0,407,0,'',1081776111,1,1,1,1,'b-30','I haven\'t got any pictures right now, haven\'t seen the truck since last summer, I think he\'s still got it. I\'ll have to get a hold of him and get some. It was missing the bulldog on the hood as well as some of the chrome lettering. There was another set of fenders in the dump box. So 2 sets of fenders with it, 6 cyl gas flathead, needed overhaul ran about 5 years ago still turns over. 5+2 tranny as I recall. Cab was decent a little blistering on the bottom center, driver door had a large dent. \r\n\r\nI\'ll hang on to those wheels for you, if you could find a good mate for either size youd have a nice set of rear wheels. The 28in. is in my barn the 24 in. is on my parts tractor with the remains of the other 24in. The other 28 in. is on a parts tractor about 45 min from here, spokes all there needs 1/3 of the rim replaced though. calcium got both of the bad rims, I drained the other 2. I also have extra steering, governor,front end, clutch, block, crank and other parts. The parts tractors in the yards still have heads minus valves and springs. 1 fuel tank as well as other parts.','',0,0,'gA==','34xxzxor',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3499,0,407,0,'',1081776111,1,1,1,1,'b-30','I haven\'t got any pictures right now, haven\'t seen the truck since last summer, I think he\'s still got it. I\'ll have to get a hold of him and get some. It was missing the bulldog on the hood as well as some of the chrome lettering. There was another set of fenders in the dump box. So 2 sets of fenders with it, 6 cyl gas flathead, needed overhaul ran about 5 years ago still turns over. 5+2 tranny as I recall. Cab was decent a little blistering on the bottom center, driver door had a large dent. \r\n\r\nI\'ll hang on to those wheels for you, if you could find a good mate for either size youd have a nice set of rear wheels. The 28in. is in my barn the 24 in. is on my parts tractor with the remains of the other 24in. The other 28 in. is on a parts tractor about 45 min from here, spokes all there needs 1/3 of the rim replaced though. calcium got both of the bad rims, I drained the other 2. I also have extra steering, governor,front end, clutch, block, crank and other parts. The parts tractors in the yards still have heads minus valves and springs. 1 fuel tank as well as other parts.','',0,0,'gA==','34xxzxor',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3504,0,105,0,'',1081796050,1,1,1,1,'photo barn pic','hey Chris, \r\nI like the look of the photo barn, I will try and get some digi pics of everything soon!  what is the easiest way to load everything up?  Do you have to have a website to host it from or can you just upload them to the site from my computer files?\r\nLet me know....\r\nThanks, Ian','',0,0,'gA==','1f4rjn5n',0,0,'u_105','',0),(3505,0,105,0,'',1081796050,1,1,1,1,'photo barn pic','hey Chris, \r\nI like the look of the photo barn, I will try and get some digi pics of everything soon!  what is the easiest way to load everything up?  Do you have to have a website to host it from or can you just upload them to the site from my computer files?\r\nLet me know....\r\nThanks, Ian','',0,0,'gA==','1f4rjn5n',0,0,'u_105','',0),(3506,0,105,0,'',1081796275,1,1,1,1,'','I completely forgot to ask the other question that I had...\r\nIn one of those pics there is a toy of an 88 with cultivators.  Behind it is a 995 toy.  It doesnt look like a Berg which are the only 995 toys that I am aware of.  Do you know who the builder of that toy was...or whos booth that was so I can contact them?\r\nThanks again, Ian','',0,0,'gA==','uj7ez9au',0,0,'u_105','',0),(3507,0,105,0,'',1081796275,1,1,1,1,'','I completely forgot to ask the other question that I had...\r\nIn one of those pics there is a toy of an 88 with cultivators.  Behind it is a 995 toy.  It doesnt look like a Berg which are the only 995 toys that I am aware of.  Do you know who the builder of that toy was...or whos booth that was so I can contact them?\r\nThanks again, Ian','',0,0,'gA==','uj7ez9au',0,0,'u_105','',0),(3512,0,407,0,'',1081805311,1,1,1,1,'brockways and Olivers','Ok, I have no crank holders for an 80, two of my four tractors are welded already.\r\n\r\nMy Brockway has a flat single piece windshield used on 1956-1964 models. It was an option to get the common three piece windshield at that time which was used in the 300 series until the Mack cab replaced it. My cab has no wood in the frame, all metal. Just the floor is plywood. I need a cab with a good seam above the doors that goes around the cab, little rot is a plus, doors are too. Just looking for a good old solid cab. Thanks Adam','',0,0,'gA==','2db2q7cv',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3513,0,407,0,'',1081805311,1,1,1,1,'brockways and Olivers','Ok, I have no crank holders for an 80, two of my four tractors are welded already.\r\n\r\nMy Brockway has a flat single piece windshield used on 1956-1964 models. It was an option to get the common three piece windshield at that time which was used in the 300 series until the Mack cab replaced it. My cab has no wood in the frame, all metal. Just the floor is plywood. I need a cab with a good seam above the doors that goes around the cab, little rot is a plus, doors are too. Just looking for a good old solid cab. Thanks Adam','',0,0,'gA==','2db2q7cv',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3515,0,407,0,'',1081805431,1,1,1,1,'','Its goin pretty good. Well sounds like your half moved in. I just got over a damn virus (human not computer)so I\'m back on the computer again.','',0,0,'gA==','th1ny7m2',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3520,0,407,0,'',1081805757,1,1,1,1,'brockway','It depends on the shape but 200 to 400 for a good solid cab, maybe 500 I got the truck for free so, thats what I\'m thinking. I know I\'ve got alot to dump into it with electrical, front tires, air system,brakes, radiator and engine rebuild.','',0,0,'gA==','pz9y0d97',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3521,0,407,0,'',1081805757,1,1,1,1,'brockway','It depends on the shape but 200 to 400 for a good solid cab, maybe 500 I got the truck for free so, thats what I\'m thinking. I know I\'ve got alot to dump into it with electrical, front tires, air system,brakes, radiator and engine rebuild.','',0,0,'gA==','pz9y0d97',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3523,0,407,0,'',1081806020,1,1,1,1,'','well I gotta go get some homework done, got a presentation tomorrow, let me know how things turn out, I appreciate it. Later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','1yz7js3q',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3538,0,577,0,'',1081815258,1,1,1,1,'Oliver 550','You can send the pictures to <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tspisak@stny.rr.com\">tspisak@stny.rr.com</a><!-- e -->.  I can download pictures much faster with that email account.\r\n\r\nThx\r\nTom','',0,0,'gA==','1iddv1wk',0,0,'u_577','',0),(3539,0,577,0,'',1081815258,1,1,1,1,'Oliver 550','You can send the pictures to <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tspisak@stny.rr.com\">tspisak@stny.rr.com</a><!-- e -->.  I can download pictures much faster with that email account.\r\n\r\nThx\r\nTom','',0,0,'gA==','1iddv1wk',0,0,'u_577','',0),(3545,0,372,0,'',1081862096,1,1,1,1,'Re: have a nice Good Friday','Danny,\r\n   Easter was good at our place.  No Oliver work--just hanging and painting crown molding in the dining room.  Ah the life of a married man.  Enjoy your single time! \r\n   Not that I don\'t really like being married but there would be a lot more Oliver time if there was less honey do time.\r\n   I took a shot at the Easter bunny but missed.  Hope that he got through to you.  How was your Easter?\r\nJohn\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:3hhyaoa4]Make certain the Easter Bunny don\'t get shot when he comes to your house.   I think he may have a few things in the basket for me. \n\nI love this time a year. Our first tractor pull of the season....Birds, flowers and Olivers in the dirt....Praise the lord!!! \n\nI\'ll email you on how our pull went[/quote:3hhyaoa4]','',0,0,'gA==','3hhyaoa4',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3548,0,230,0,'',1081903381,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver 550','Tom,\r\n\r\nit will be a few days before I can get to take the pictures.  Hope this is ok.\r\n\r\nBest Regards,\r\n\r\nJeff\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:2xla4c3r]You can send the pictures to <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tspisak@stny.rr.com\">tspisak@stny.rr.com</a><!-- e -->.  I can download pictures much faster with that email account.\n\nThx\nTom[/quote:2xla4c3r]','',0,0,'gA==','2xla4c3r',0,0,'u_230','',0),(3550,0,230,0,'',1081961962,1,1,1,1,'bucket pictures','try this link\r\n\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://olivergang.org/discus/messages/257/496.html#POST852\">http://olivergang.org/discus/messages/2 ... ml#POST852</a><!-- m -->','',0,0,'gA==','34ksm2ov',0,0,'u_230','',0),(3555,0,372,0,'',1081978448,1,1,1,1,'Spring','Danny,\r\n  It finally warming up.  I am uaually an office worker about 80% of the time.  Today and yesterday were both outside days.  I love that.\r\n  Boy is it a  lot more fun talking about Easter and Spring weather than the hpoca train wreck.\r\n  Kara (my wife) and I are looking to get into the rental house business.  After work we are looking at a house.  It can be a hassle but its hard to beat for a retirement income that grows rather than shrinks with time.  So that is our plan for the evening.\r\n   Did you pull this weekend?   How did you do?  Which tractor(s) do you take to the pulls?   How much work does your club allow to be done on antique tractors?\r\n   I\'m sorry to hear about your brother and his knee.  I have not gone through it but my understanding is that getting a lawyer helps to get disability.  The same may be true of workman\'s comp.\r\n   Talk to you later.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','2hjjfzot',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3556,0,407,0,'',1081989236,1,1,1,1,'brock cabs','This cab I have is a brockway built cab, Mack aquired Brockway two years before my truck was built but the cab is older design. Brockway still built thier own bodies until 1973-74 when Mack started putting thier own modified R model cabs on and headlights, etc. \r\nBrockway was a carriage company from the 1850\'s and built thier first truck in 1910. Mack bought them out in 1956. Kinda like an Oliver thing. I guess thats why I like em, they both dissapeared around the same time. They closed the plant in Cortland, NY in 1977 after the workers went on strike. That Mack superliner, if I remember right has the wide chrome radiator with the Mack at the top center, right? If so that is what the 78 Brockways where gonna look like. My friend was at the Brockway factory sale, there was one superliner with Brockway emblems on it in a wind tunnel. I would like to have that truck! \r\nOh well, more than you probably wanted to know about Brockways but I went to college in Cortland last year, thier historical society has a bunch of cool factory pictures and owners with thier new trucks. I was hoping to have my truck restored to drive to school, but never got to it. I\'m going back next spring though, so it could still happen I guess. I had a nice job down there as a truck mechanic and bulldozer operator. Kenworth trucks and John Deere equipt. though. Good experience for me, since all I worked on prior was old tractors and bulldozers. They picked on me for liking the old Cockways as they called them,my dad always called them Rottaways. Everybody has a name for everything! Sorry to talk your ear off, Thanks, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','sh5z2j7t',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3557,0,407,0,'',1081989236,1,1,1,1,'brock cabs','This cab I have is a brockway built cab, Mack aquired Brockway two years before my truck was built but the cab is older design. Brockway still built thier own bodies until 1973-74 when Mack started putting thier own modified R model cabs on and headlights, etc. \r\nBrockway was a carriage company from the 1850\'s and built thier first truck in 1910. Mack bought them out in 1956. Kinda like an Oliver thing. I guess thats why I like em, they both dissapeared around the same time. They closed the plant in Cortland, NY in 1977 after the workers went on strike. That Mack superliner, if I remember right has the wide chrome radiator with the Mack at the top center, right? If so that is what the 78 Brockways where gonna look like. My friend was at the Brockway factory sale, there was one superliner with Brockway emblems on it in a wind tunnel. I would like to have that truck! \r\nOh well, more than you probably wanted to know about Brockways but I went to college in Cortland last year, thier historical society has a bunch of cool factory pictures and owners with thier new trucks. I was hoping to have my truck restored to drive to school, but never got to it. I\'m going back next spring though, so it could still happen I guess. I had a nice job down there as a truck mechanic and bulldozer operator. Kenworth trucks and John Deere equipt. though. Good experience for me, since all I worked on prior was old tractors and bulldozers. They picked on me for liking the old Cockways as they called them,my dad always called them Rottaways. Everybody has a name for everything! Sorry to talk your ear off, Thanks, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','sh5z2j7t',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3562,0,407,0,'',1082079125,1,1,1,1,'trucks','Yeah, alot of people think Brockways where just Macks. They had a good little product going for them just not much sales outside the northeast. There was a time not long ago when every township in central and western New York ran only Brockways. Walters was the only other brand and they were all wheel drive v-plows. Brockway was also noted for having the strongest frame rails on the market, as I recall they\'d withstand 70,000 lbs per square inch, they were built like subs!\r\n\r\nMy Brockway cab is too far gone or a 10 year project in it self. The rib around the top of the cab is rotted in quite a few spots, the framing and rear panel behind the seat is rotted out, the exhaust stack support pulled itself out of the cab as well. There are other things but thats the major stuff. I could fix it and realistically it would probably take me 2 years solid on just the cab. Thanks for the help again, you ought to get a Brockway. I\'m a bit partial to the Mack style as well although my dad says \"if you hate your drivers give em a Mack.\" He\'s an Autocar guy now I guess, we got a 10 wheeler dump. She\'s old we dont use it, has 47K original miles. Its a 1980, we\'ve had it since 92\' and never had it on the road, I got to get it on the road soon though cause I got to the point where I need a truck. Was a state truck, needs the box bolted down (newer aluminum 17ft freuhauf) and a hoist line run. The box and brackets are on, pto, controls mounted, pintle hook, tubless rims installed, just dont seem to get to finish it. starts and runs like you drive it everyday though it only runs once or twice a year. Got a 290 Cummins and 13 spd. roadranger.Old and underpowered for running today probably. Oh well, I cant drive with out \"peekers\" !Later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','2l5zbbs8',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3563,0,407,0,'',1082079125,1,1,1,1,'trucks','Yeah, alot of people think Brockways where just Macks. They had a good little product going for them just not much sales outside the northeast. There was a time not long ago when every township in central and western New York ran only Brockways. Walters was the only other brand and they were all wheel drive v-plows. Brockway was also noted for having the strongest frame rails on the market, as I recall they\'d withstand 70,000 lbs per square inch, they were built like subs!\r\n\r\nMy Brockway cab is too far gone or a 10 year project in it self. The rib around the top of the cab is rotted in quite a few spots, the framing and rear panel behind the seat is rotted out, the exhaust stack support pulled itself out of the cab as well. There are other things but thats the major stuff. I could fix it and realistically it would probably take me 2 years solid on just the cab. Thanks for the help again, you ought to get a Brockway. I\'m a bit partial to the Mack style as well although my dad says \"if you hate your drivers give em a Mack.\" He\'s an Autocar guy now I guess, we got a 10 wheeler dump. She\'s old we dont use it, has 47K original miles. Its a 1980, we\'ve had it since 92\' and never had it on the road, I got to get it on the road soon though cause I got to the point where I need a truck. Was a state truck, needs the box bolted down (newer aluminum 17ft freuhauf) and a hoist line run. The box and brackets are on, pto, controls mounted, pintle hook, tubless rims installed, just dont seem to get to finish it. starts and runs like you drive it everyday though it only runs once or twice a year. Got a 290 Cummins and 13 spd. roadranger.Old and underpowered for running today probably. Oh well, I cant drive with out \"peekers\" !Later, Adam','',0,0,'gA==','2l5zbbs8',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3564,0,372,0,'',1082120313,1,1,1,1,'Photo','Danny,\r\n   It may take me a few days but I\'ll try to get a picture on e mail to you.  \r\n   Yes you are right about renters.  The trick is to only rent to reliable people.  We are going after better places to hopefully get better renters.  I think that Indiana is a little more friendly to landlords than some other states---but you can\'t let ypur guard down.\r\n  Gotta get to work.  Have a great day.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','kkhnc2y6',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3565,0,372,0,'',1082120313,1,1,1,1,'Photo','Danny,\r\n   It may take me a few days but I\'ll try to get a picture on e mail to you.  \r\n   Yes you are right about renters.  The trick is to only rent to reliable people.  We are going after better places to hopefully get better renters.  I think that Indiana is a little more friendly to landlords than some other states---but you can\'t let ypur guard down.\r\n  Gotta get to work.  Have a great day.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','kkhnc2y6',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3569,0,597,0,'',1082393426,1,1,1,1,'my tractor','nice to get a quick response.did some further checking.the serial number comes up as an oliver 80 of 1939 vintage.looking over the name plate and removing more grime,found cockshutt 80 on the name plate.i\'m confused.was this their amalgamation period.how does a purchase price of 200.00 cdn sound.needs work,tin is fair,engine not seized.','',0,0,'gA==','2bsruicj',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3570,0,407,0,'',1082423416,1,1,1,1,'cockshutt 80','That price is a steal. I have 3 oliver 80 standards I paid $500-$1000 us for each and I got good deals as well. I did see an Oliver 80 standard at auction go for $2900, almost fully restored but still missing the intake and exhaust manifolds. Manifolds you can buy new for $550. So he had at least that much more to spend on it. My tractors range from one stuck complete, one restored and one original but all legible decals and original paint and tires. \r\n\r\nThis cockshutt 80, does it say cockshutt hart parr 80 or is hart parr just at the bottom of the serial number tag saying hart parr works? I have seen alot of these tractors. This tractor would be green with orange wheels. Later tractors were red with cream wheels. If it does say Cockshutt Hart Parr 80 it should have Cockshutt Hart Parr on the radiator. I believe it being a 1939 it should just say cockshutt on the radiator and Cockshutt 80 on top of the serial number tag. I\'d buy it as fast as you can if you haven\'t already though. Good luck , if you need any parts let me know. Adam','',0,0,'gA==','x7u94ei2',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3571,0,407,0,'',1082423416,1,1,1,1,'cockshutt 80','That price is a steal. I have 3 oliver 80 standards I paid $500-$1000 us for each and I got good deals as well. I did see an Oliver 80 standard at auction go for $2900, almost fully restored but still missing the intake and exhaust manifolds. Manifolds you can buy new for $550. So he had at least that much more to spend on it. My tractors range from one stuck complete, one restored and one original but all legible decals and original paint and tires. \r\n\r\nThis cockshutt 80, does it say cockshutt hart parr 80 or is hart parr just at the bottom of the serial number tag saying hart parr works? I have seen alot of these tractors. This tractor would be green with orange wheels. Later tractors were red with cream wheels. If it does say Cockshutt Hart Parr 80 it should have Cockshutt Hart Parr on the radiator. I believe it being a 1939 it should just say cockshutt on the radiator and Cockshutt 80 on top of the serial number tag. I\'d buy it as fast as you can if you haven\'t already though. Good luck , if you need any parts let me know. Adam','',0,0,'gA==','x7u94ei2',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3574,0,372,0,'',1082468688,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA Board','Danny,\r\n  I have never seen the hpoca forum so dead,  The calm before the storm or everone is outdoors these days?\r\n  I got my digital camera back and will try to get Kara and Audrey in front of the 60.  Its my best looking tractor.  How about a picture of you with your sled at one of the tractor pulls?\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','27vjhq0m',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3575,0,372,0,'',1082468688,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA Board','Danny,\r\n  I have never seen the hpoca forum so dead,  The calm before the storm or everone is outdoors these days?\r\n  I got my digital camera back and will try to get Kara and Audrey in front of the 60.  Its my best looking tractor.  How about a picture of you with your sled at one of the tractor pulls?\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','27vjhq0m',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3577,0,597,0,'',1082474493,1,1,1,1,'my tractor','the stamped id says \"cockshutt 80\".hart parr works is lower on the plate,below the serial number.the radiator has \"oliver\"on it.the decals on the fuel tank say cockshutt.the reason i wasn\'t really sure what it was,i originaly looked at it in the dark and you miss lots with a flashlight.i do have a bill of sale in my pocket,paid cash and paid in full.thanks for all the info.anything else would be a great help.','',0,0,'gA==','g2ptu1kd',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3579,0,597,0,'',1082497262,1,1,1,1,'hp 70','i know and old timer that knows hart parr and he tells me that they have always  put the numbers underneath.don\'t know why','',0,0,'gA==','5452wc6c',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3584,0,407,0,'',1082511527,1,1,1,1,'Re: my tractor','Ok, your tractor would be considered a straight Cockshutt 80. The radiator has probably been changed at some point. It should have cockshutt cast into the radiator top tank. It will have a four speed transmission above serial number 805320, before they were 3 speed.the engine is waukesha 298 cubic inch, 41/4 inch bore x 51/4 stroke. On 26 inch wheels it is capable of 5.99 miles per hour in 4th gear. Faster if the serial number has another set of letters and numbers in it like C48 or something. Optional equiptment include starter, lights, cushion seat, different gear combos, kerosene,gas,or even diesel-(only 5 made diesel or something like that). Most standard 80\'s are equipt with a starter at least. If you need any parts let me know. If I don\'t have them I probably know who does. These are my favorite model of oliver. I have 3 row crops and 3 standards like I said. They are very good runners and dependable. Every one of my runners is well behaved with very little if any effort to do so.  a first pull or 2nd of the crank and they run, even after sitting all winter. Later, Adam Whyte\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:lahq5x3c]the stamped id says \"cockshutt 80\".hart parr works is lower on the plate,below the serial number.the radiator has \"oliver\"on it.the decals on the fuel tank say cockshutt.the reason i wasn\'t really sure what it was,i originaly looked at it in the dark and you miss lots with a flashlight.i do have a bill of sale in my pocket,paid cash and paid in full.thanks for all the info.anything else would be a great help.[/quote:lahq5x3c]','',0,0,'gA==','lahq5x3c',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3585,0,407,0,'',1082511527,1,1,1,1,'Re: my tractor','Ok, your tractor would be considered a straight Cockshutt 80. The radiator has probably been changed at some point. It should have cockshutt cast into the radiator top tank. It will have a four speed transmission above serial number 805320, before they were 3 speed.the engine is waukesha 298 cubic inch, 41/4 inch bore x 51/4 stroke. On 26 inch wheels it is capable of 5.99 miles per hour in 4th gear. Faster if the serial number has another set of letters and numbers in it like C48 or something. Optional equiptment include starter, lights, cushion seat, different gear combos, kerosene,gas,or even diesel-(only 5 made diesel or something like that). Most standard 80\'s are equipt with a starter at least. If you need any parts let me know. If I don\'t have them I probably know who does. These are my favorite model of oliver. I have 3 row crops and 3 standards like I said. They are very good runners and dependable. Every one of my runners is well behaved with very little if any effort to do so.  a first pull or 2nd of the crank and they run, even after sitting all winter. Later, Adam Whyte\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote:lahq5x3c]the stamped id says \"cockshutt 80\".hart parr works is lower on the plate,below the serial number.the radiator has \"oliver\"on it.the decals on the fuel tank say cockshutt.the reason i wasn\'t really sure what it was,i originaly looked at it in the dark and you miss lots with a flashlight.i do have a bill of sale in my pocket,paid cash and paid in full.thanks for all the info.anything else would be a great help.[/quote:lahq5x3c]','',0,0,'gA==','lahq5x3c',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3587,0,597,0,'',1082512107,1,1,1,1,'my tactor','one more question for you.i went onto yesterdays tractors and searched the serial number.it came up as an oliver 80,not a cockshutt.how do they explain this.i guess a better question would be is who owned who in 1939','',0,0,'gA==','3w39paox',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3588,0,407,0,'',1082512950,1,1,1,1,'Cockshutt/oliver','Oliver built the tractors for cockshutt from 1936-1946 or something like that. I know it started in 36. Anyway, they were oliver tractors, built in Charles City Iowa, but minor changes such as some name castings including the name on the serial number tag. Your cockshutt is nothing more than an oliver slightly modified for the canadian market. Oliver 60, 70, 80, 90\'s and Oliver Hart Parr models that were predesessors, all had this done to them during this time for the Canadian market. The later Olivers once they were aquired by white, went through this same sort of name changing on the tractors. If you are in the US it is possible your tractor was intended for Canada but never made it =\'ing the Oliver name on the radiator. That has been found before. Then the tractor would be regular green and red if so. If you live in Canada, it was probably just replaced with an oliver radiator. It was a strange thing I know, but Cockshutt seemed to like to be able to market olivers as thier own, many times the tractors were painted cockshutt colors once in Canada, better sales to canadian consumers I guess as a cockshutt tractor. Hope this helps. Your tractror is an oliver made, niether company owned each other until white aquired them both with Minneapolis Moline in the early 60\'s.','',0,0,'gA==','103wyn83',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3589,0,407,0,'',1082512950,1,1,1,1,'Cockshutt/oliver','Oliver built the tractors for cockshutt from 1936-1946 or something like that. I know it started in 36. Anyway, they were oliver tractors, built in Charles City Iowa, but minor changes such as some name castings including the name on the serial number tag. Your cockshutt is nothing more than an oliver slightly modified for the canadian market. Oliver 60, 70, 80, 90\'s and Oliver Hart Parr models that were predesessors, all had this done to them during this time for the Canadian market. The later Olivers once they were aquired by white, went through this same sort of name changing on the tractors. If you are in the US it is possible your tractor was intended for Canada but never made it =\'ing the Oliver name on the radiator. That has been found before. Then the tractor would be regular green and red if so. If you live in Canada, it was probably just replaced with an oliver radiator. It was a strange thing I know, but Cockshutt seemed to like to be able to market olivers as thier own, many times the tractors were painted cockshutt colors once in Canada, better sales to canadian consumers I guess as a cockshutt tractor. Hope this helps. Your tractror is an oliver made, niether company owned each other until white aquired them both with Minneapolis Moline in the early 60\'s.','',0,0,'gA==','103wyn83',0,0,'u_407','',0),(3596,0,372,0,'',1082639074,1,1,1,1,'Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n   My copy of Oliver Heritage came yesterday.  What a great magazine!!  Your story about Cobby was great.  My hat is off to you for getting it written and in the first edition of the magazine.  More later\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','68kguyvp',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3597,0,372,0,'',1082639074,1,1,1,1,'Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n   My copy of Oliver Heritage came yesterday.  What a great magazine!!  Your story about Cobby was great.  My hat is off to you for getting it written and in the first edition of the magazine.  More later\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','68kguyvp',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3604,0,372,0,'',1082756393,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n   Rest up and remember to keep the shiny side up on that truck of yours.  I have to work tomorrow so maybe I can get the photo on Sunday.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','3i9wy9eq',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3605,0,372,0,'',1082756393,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n   Rest up and remember to keep the shiny side up on that truck of yours.  I have to work tomorrow so maybe I can get the photo on Sunday.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','3i9wy9eq',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3635,0,372,0,'',1082811364,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n  Ihate to work Saturdays too.  Just can\'t avoid it sometimes.  Its a whole lot better to be too busy than not busy enough.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','2ytojqmv',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3637,0,372,0,'',1082812599,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver Heritage','Danny,\r\n  I just put a short post for Oliver Heritage on the YT Oliver board.  Some favorable comments on that could surely help Sherry with subscriptions.  Hint Hint She told me by email that there are about 650 now.  I\'d guess that the magazine would be more of a financial success if she could get up to at least 2000 subscribers.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','1m2x6qxi',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3639,0,372,0,'',1082813057,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver Heritage','Danny, \r\n  Ignor last message.  I missed an earlier thread on the YT board.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','1u2u0o41',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3668,0,372,0,'',1082982575,1,1,1,1,'Photos','Danny,\r\n   Sorry no photos yet.  Yesterday was cold and rainy and I did not want to get Audrey out in that for the picture.  We will get them taken.\r\n   Did you make it to your local pull this weekend?  How did Ben and Cobby do?\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','my4oefnk',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3669,0,372,0,'',1082982575,1,1,1,1,'Photos','Danny,\r\n   Sorry no photos yet.  Yesterday was cold and rainy and I did not want to get Audrey out in that for the picture.  We will get them taken.\r\n   Did you make it to your local pull this weekend?  How did Ben and Cobby do?\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','my4oefnk',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3672,0,372,0,'',1082998096,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA FORUM','Danny,\r\n   Yes, I saw your posts and no nothing that the current bunch does to silence the Renegades surprises me any more.  Please keep me posted on the new club.  I\'ll sign up right away.\r\n   How big of a shed are you building.  Is it a pole structure or are you adding something to an existing building?  Good luck with the construction.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','oa1t6kkr',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3673,0,372,0,'',1082998096,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA FORUM','Danny,\r\n   Yes, I saw your posts and no nothing that the current bunch does to silence the Renegades surprises me any more.  Please keep me posted on the new club.  I\'ll sign up right away.\r\n   How big of a shed are you building.  Is it a pole structure or are you adding something to an existing building?  Good luck with the construction.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','oa1t6kkr',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3677,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1083273791,1,1,1,0,'see if it works','Here\'s a PM. Let me know if it works\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','1o7o1m51',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3685,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1083503891,1,1,1,0,'working?','Hey are these things working now?','',0,0,'gA==','rpfrmbrm',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3688,0,381,0,'206.176.198.36',1083547969,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 550 Brush-Guard','Frank, could you perhaps take and email some detailed photos of your grillwork for the 550 ~ and measure it if possible?  I suspect that the only way one can be found is to have one built!  There is another fellow here in Wisconsin that has a 550 that would also be interested in having one made up.\r\n\r\nThanks!!\r\n\r\nKerry Brunner\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:nailcreek@hotmail.com\">nailcreek@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'gA==','shvq0p5q',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3689,0,381,0,'206.176.198.36',1083548416,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 550 Brush-Guard','Frank, could you perhaps take and email some detailed photos of your grillwork for the 550 ~ and measure it if possible?  I suspect that the only way one can be found is to have one built!  There is another fellow here in Wisconsin that has a 550 that would also be interested in having one made up.\r\n\r\nThanks!!\r\n\r\nKerry Brunner\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:nailcreek@hotmail.com\">nailcreek@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'gA==','1ius0z4r',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3690,0,381,0,'206.176.198.36',1083548416,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 550 Brush-Guard','Frank, could you perhaps take and email some detailed photos of your grillwork for the 550 ~ and measure it if possible?  I suspect that the only way one can be found is to have one built!  There is another fellow here in Wisconsin that has a 550 that would also be interested in having one made up.\r\n\r\nThanks!!\r\n\r\nKerry Brunner\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:nailcreek@hotmail.com\">nailcreek@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'gA==','1ius0z4r',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3691,0,381,0,'206.176.198.36',1083547969,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 550 Brush-Guard','Frank, could you perhaps take and email some detailed photos of your grillwork for the 550 ~ and measure it if possible?  I suspect that the only way one can be found is to have one built!  There is another fellow here in Wisconsin that has a 550 that would also be interested in having one made up.\r\n\r\nThanks!!\r\n\r\nKerry Brunner\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:nailcreek@hotmail.com\">nailcreek@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'gA==','2w0cp35z',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3696,0,372,0,'68.76.242.110',1083694800,1,1,1,0,'Re: working?','Danny,\r\n   The private message let me in this time   go figure.  Hope all is well with you as Spring really gets going.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','330va9d7',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3697,0,372,0,'68.76.242.110',1083694740,1,1,1,0,'Re: working?','Danny,\r\n   The private message let me in this time   go figure.  Hope all is well with you as Spring really gets going.\r\nJohn','',0,0,'gA==','1sy0gn6m',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3698,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1083702588,1,1,1,0,'Re: working?','Chris had said he fixed it. Just something he overlooked while installing it. I\'ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Rained cats and dogs yesterday but a beautiful day today. Too wet to work so I\'ve been playing in the shed. \r\n\r\nI sent you an email.  Hope all is well with you.\r\n\r\nDanny\r\n\r\nI\'m not certain how to work these smiley\'s. So this is just a test!!!javascript&#058;emoticon(\':P\')\r\nRazzjavascript&#058;emoticon(\'8)\')\r\nCooljavascript&#058;emoticon(\':twisted:\')\r\nTwisted Evil','',0,0,'gA==','1mkj7ktb',0,0,'u_372','',0),(3700,0,35,0,'68.221.131.27',1083805564,1,1,1,0,'550','Did you get the photos? My computer has been acting up.','',0,0,'gA==','1782fklx',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3703,0,35,0,'68.221.131.27',1083805564,1,1,1,0,'550','Did you get the photos? My computer has been acting up.','',0,0,'gA==','1782fklx',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3704,0,597,0,'161.184.198.117',1083809717,1,1,1,0,'cockshutt 80','thanks for the help.it seems that there is a lot of conflicting information out there.with the information you have,would you consider this somewhat of a rare tractor.even if it a rather common tractor,i don\'t think that $200.00 was to much to pay for it.to truck it home from Saskatchewan to Edmonton along with a W-30 McCormick of 1937 vintage worked out to the price of 350 litres of fuel.thanks again for the help.if you find anymore information on this,could you please forward it to me','',0,0,'gA==','2h9zfhz5',0,0,'u_65','',0),(3705,0,597,0,'',1082497262,1,1,1,1,'hp 70','i know and old timer that knows hart parr and he tells me that they have always  put the numbers underneath.don\'t know why','',0,0,'gA==','19mvdfw1',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3709,0,76,0,'67.50.252.164',1083546994,1,1,1,0,'new layout','sure like the new layout you have!  I dont know if its the color or what, but congrats on a good job! <!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P -->','',0,0,'gA==','3k1pcpcs',0,0,'u_47','',0),(3711,0,47,0,'65.238.36.228',1084107409,1,1,1,0,'phone number','Hey Bill,\r\nCan you send me a phone number to contact you? I am trying to get a committee meeting after the next board meeting. Terry is trying to set it up in IL, I told him I wanted some committee time after the meeting. I want to get the draft ready to have an attorney look it over, then if it passes his muster, we can have a final committee vote at Madison. Then report the recommendations to the membership. I think Madison will be a fun show, at least Arnold Myers will go way out of his way to keep costs down. Costs have become a matter of concern to many members, with the expenses of our shows having drastically increasing. I\'ll address that later, well, I\'ve been working on that for about a year. But, there are bigger fish to fry right now! Have a great day!!!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,0,'gA==','2lldw5qd',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3717,0,88,0,'4.155.126.144',1084232531,1,1,1,0,'Re: just saying HI','Hi, Oh yeah, I\'m still here, they haven\'t arrested me yet. \r\nThe way some people think, owning some \"junk\" should be\r\na crime punishable by death. \r\n\r\nI got your e-mail, but just haven\'t been on computer much \r\nlately. It probably will rain tomorrow,m then I\'ll have more time\r\nto write.\r\n\r\n\r\n                         Doug','',0,0,'gA==','3pcp9pgg',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3720,0,76,0,'',1051839369,1,1,1,1,'help','why does the site show up like this to me?\r\n\r\nWarning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/header.php on line 332\r\n\r\nWarning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/header.php:332) in /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/misc.php on line 135\r\n\r\nWarning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/header.php:332) in /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/misc.php on line 136\r\n\r\nWarning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/header.php:332) in /home/hartparr/public_html/forum/misc.php on line 137\r\nHPOCA Home Page\r\n Last active: 5-1-2003 at 07:33 PM\r\n \r\nLogged in as kcoers\r\n[Logout - Control Panel / Options ] \r\n \r\nMember List | Search | FAQ | Today\'s Posts | Stats  Back to: Hart Parr Oliver Collectors Association Web Site \r\n \r\n \r\n Hart Parr Oliver Collectors Association Forums » Logout','',0,0,'','2e8mzt04',0,0,'u_76','',0),(3725,0,40,0,'64.12.116.143',1084880188,1,1,1,0,'Re: phone number','Andy:\r\n\r\nMy phone number is 815 872 1157.  Cell phone is 815 878 8740.\r\n\r\nBeen doing some farming with the brother in law so I have not been checking the computer.\r\n\r\n\r\nBill','',0,0,'','sf3fko9l',0,0,'u_47','',0),(3727,0,47,0,'65.238.36.33',1084881593,1,1,1,0,'Re: phone number','Hey Bill,\r\nI understand! I haven\'t been on the computer either. I have been trying to get my corn in the ground, and replace a differential in my big truck. I have been checking e-mail only.\r\nI haven\'t heard when the next board meeting will be, yet. It is supposed to be in Illinois. I have made a note of your phone numbers, if there is short notice on the meeting, I will call. If there is good notice, I will send you a message.\r\nI gotta go farm!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nLater, Andy','',0,0,'','22e6ntuj',0,0,'u_40','',0),(3740,0,597,0,'161.184.198.117',1083809717,1,1,1,0,'cockshutt 80','thanks for the help.it seems that there is a lot of conflicting information out there.with the information you have,would you consider this somewhat of a rare tractor.even if it a rather common tractor,i don\'t think that $200.00 was to much to pay for it.to truck it home from Saskatchewan to Edmonton along with a W-30 McCormick of 1937 vintage worked out to the price of 350 litres of fuel.thanks again for the help.if you find anymore information on this,could you please forward it to me','',0,0,'','3jc57u7v',0,0,'u_65','',0),(3741,0,88,0,'4.155.81.85',1085004149,1,1,1,0,'Re: limpballs','Yeah, I hear ya......but what else is new...Good Ol Andy running interference for the Pres. I saw him at Lancaster, about the only thing he didn\'t do was lick Allens boots','',0,0,'','2532jf5y',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3742,0,88,0,'4.155.81.85',1085004322,1,1,1,0,'Re: limpballs','You know I still say someone else is writing Andy\'s material. After meeting that hillbilly I find it hard to believe he even knows how to use a computer','',0,0,'','1i3j6xto',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3749,0,40,0,'152.163.242.213',1085026650,1,1,1,0,'Easy Way Out','It is an easy way out for you if you do not use your name because it does not let the readers of this forum know if your comments are real or if your are Terry Allen, Chris Losey, etc.\r\n\r\nI like Olivers and I like the club.  But I do not agree with everything that happens.  I think the Loseys are working hard to make the magazine better as they go along.  I talked to them at the winter meeting and it was my impression that they want to give the members a very good magazine.  But they also said that they knew that they would never make everybody happy.  I think they have taken the discussions on here and used them, both positive and negative to give the members a better product.\r\n\r\nI disagree that you were not commenting on the club when talking about the people commenting on the magazine.  A big part of the club in my mind and many other members is the magazine.  Opinions by members about other members, the magazine, shows, by-laws  are good for the club even if some of them do not support everything happening at the time.\r\n\r\nThanks for your time.  I hope your reconsider and use your name.  I\'m sure Chris would love to have your name attached to your positive comments.\r\n\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','1dugbbvp',0,0,'u_616','',0),(3751,0,65,0,'216.183.132.154',1085004935,1,1,1,0,'Cockshutt 80','Cockshutt 80 rare enough tractor and add the fact its standard adds to value as lower numbers made. I have chased cockshutt connection for a number of years now and only came up with \"educated guess\'s\" no concrete info. An interesting fact is that standards had starters while rowcrops did not,something to do with cultivators interfearing . So 80 rowcrops not as collectable as no-one likes to crank anything.  Add the fact that standards came north or into plains and rare to see a stanard 80 in mid west let alone a cockshutt model Grant','',0,0,'','46kwox7r',0,0,'u_597','',0),(3757,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085104668,1,1,1,0,'Danny Was right','At the winter convention, Danny said this HPO sounded like a bad deal.  His fears are slowly coming to surface.   I wish I could do something about it, but my hands appear to be tied.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','119tik6g',0,0,'u_360','',0),(3758,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085103659,1,1,1,0,'Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','As I sit here choking on my \"breakfast bagel\" I can\'t believe the plug that Andy gave for Sherry\'s venture.  I almost wanted to ask if he was healthy, as this activity is much unlike the Andy I have read before.  \r\n\r\nI then read further and the real Andy comes alive.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','asci6wx1',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3763,0,88,0,'4.155.129.102',1085250110,1,1,1,0,'Re: limpballs','Hi,\r\n\r\nIt is a nice day, after an all night rain. I\'m just finishing off loading a roll off box of trash. Fun job, I know. One thing about Andy, you never know what to expect from him, except for the fact that he is an idiot. Nothing will change that. What ever happened to OLIVERFAN,,,,,he seems to have disappeared. My guess is he is Chris Losey, or someone posting for him, that\'s why he got so defensive when we asked his real name.','',0,0,'','491auxw0',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3767,0,88,0,'4.155.129.91',1085255368,1,1,1,0,'Re: limpballs','Well I may be wrong, but I definitely know that guy appeared there for a reason, and the only thing he said was in defense of Chris. \r\n\r\nThis B.S. about cutting two articles out of this months magazine since they had too much advertising is ridiculous. I heard from a reliable source that they were talking people into buying more space than they originally wanted. That tells me, they needed filler, since they didn\'t have enough articles, and didn\'t want to do what they did in previous issues,  putting the contact info in 10 or so times to take up space.','',0,0,'','3dvhufb4',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3770,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1085334915,1,1,1,0,'HI','Hey Frank,\r\n      Hows it going? Pretty darn hot here. Grass keeps growing, cowskeep doing whatever cows do and Andy keeps getting on my nerves!\r\n\r\nSaw you were on thought I\'d say HI\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','280czsmp',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3773,0,35,0,'65.4.196.41',1085370328,1,1,1,0,'550 paint','I have used the AGCO paint and it holds up very good. I don\'t feel near as bad when I get a scratch with the AGCO paint as I would with the Dupont etc.\r\n\r\nI have been keeping up with your posts concerning your 550 and apparently you are not in a hurry for the bumper. The implement dealer is approx. 20 miles from the house and I have been so busy that I haven\'t had a chance to pick it up. I hope to get by there the first of June.\r\n\r\nFrank','',0,0,'','4z8kkezi',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3774,0,35,0,'65.4.196.41',1085370328,1,1,1,0,'550 paint','I have used the AGCO paint and it holds up very good. I don\'t feel near as bad when I get a scratch with the AGCO paint as I would with the Dupont etc.\r\n\r\nI have been keeping up with your posts concerning your 550 and apparently you are not in a hurry for the bumper. The implement dealer is approx. 20 miles from the house and I have been so busy that I haven\'t had a chance to pick it up. I hope to get by there the first of June.\r\n\r\nFrank','',0,0,'','4z8kkezi',0,0,'u_381','',0),(3775,0,381,0,'206.176.198.9',1085371002,1,1,1,0,'Re: 550 paint','Thanks, Frank.  I\'ve already got the paint at NAPA, so I\'m already down that road.  Hence trying to find something a bit cheaper for the rims ...\r\n\r\nNo hurry on the grill.  What I\'ve noticed is the more parts are removed, the more stuff that calls out to be fixed.  It\'s kind of a 4 wheeled money pit.\r\n\r\nLuckily, the rest of the transmission looks good.  One of the rear axle housings was cracked and letting water in and needs to be replaced (it was rusted on and had to be busted apart), but I\'ve got a good complete one lined up from the fellow in TX that has been selling a load of 550 parts.\r\n\r\nThe saga continues.','',0,0,'','9582p2ne',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3776,0,35,0,'65.4.196.41',1085369926,1,1,1,0,'Re: HI','Its kinda hot here too. I read with interest your thoughts on a national organization. I think it may be feasible but I question if this is the time to do it. I would like to see Sherry\'s OLIVER HERITAGE get on firm ground. \r\n\r\nAs for HPOCA I feel the end may be near. I believe the HPO Foundation will be the death. I am a member of Ruritan National and have held national office. Our Foundation is stand alone with elected directors etc. therefore politics is limited.\r\n\r\nKeep me posted.','',0,0,'','3oble4im',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3777,0,381,0,'206.176.198.9',1085371002,1,1,1,0,'Re: 550 paint','Thanks, Frank.  I\'ve already got the paint at NAPA, so I\'m already down that road.  Hence trying to find something a bit cheaper for the rims ...\r\n\r\nNo hurry on the grill.  What I\'ve noticed is the more parts are removed, the more stuff that calls out to be fixed.  It\'s kind of a 4 wheeled money pit.\r\n\r\nLuckily, the rest of the transmission looks good.  One of the rear axle housings was cracked and letting water in and needs to be replaced (it was rusted on and had to be busted apart), but I\'ve got a good complete one lined up from the fellow in TX that has been selling a load of 550 parts.\r\n\r\nThe saga continues.','',0,0,'','hw4xpm0s',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3778,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1085372172,1,1,1,0,'12:10','12:10am. You must do some strange hours, as well. I am Off to work. Hope the night is good to you!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','27wqmxpv',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3782,0,259,0,'65.43.7.169',1085434889,1,1,1,0,'Re: Your post','That\'s true Chris...I\'m sorry.\r\n\r\nWas done in total jest, no mean intentions at all.\r\n\r\nWe are receiving the magazine and I read it cover to cover before it heads down to our Archives.  Keep up the good work!\r\n\r\nSorry if I can\'t write more, I have to take the shoe out of my mouth.\r\n\r\n1,000 apologies.\r\n\r\nOliverEd','',0,0,'','10pdzeaa',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(3786,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1085514801,1,1,1,0,'Good to hear from you!','Todd, \r\n     Thank you for the kind email. So far I\'ve gotten some good response. I think people are interested but they want to wait until HPOCA is on its last breath. I agree with them. However I believe now is the time to discuss the structuring of a new club.\r\n        I chose you to be on the mailing list for 2 reasons. 1: It seemed you and I were the only ones who could see the benefit in allowing chapters run the national club. I think others agreed but I\'m not certain why they didn\'t make their stand on the forum. This is one thing I\'d like to be discussed if a new club were to be established.\r\n      #2. You are very busy. I know dairy farmers are tied down by....well you know, EVERYTHING and so I\'d like to find ways guys who can\'t make it out to S Dakota for a meeting can still have a say or for that matter be an officer/ board of director of the club. I believe keeping everything local w/ chapters and using forum software can make this happen.\r\n          I\'m planning this weekend on writing again to the list. Introduce some of the folks and explain why I felt they would be helpful. I hope to have people write to the list rather than to my personal email.  \r\n        I will also try to give my opinions on some of the thoughts and comments i\'ve recieved already. I don\'t want to be an \"answerman\"  We have Andy for that!!!\r\n          I want to email Sherry and make certain its okay for her to be on the list. I don\'t wish to clogg her magazine email. IF THIS MAILING LIST DOES TAKE OFF.\r\n\r\nI hope sort of somebody else will take the lead. I don\'t think I\'m qualified\r\nHave a good holiday! \r\n\r\n     <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','20w3m5v2',0,0,'u_116','',0),(3787,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1085516520,1,1,1,0,'Re: HI','Frank,\r\n      I agree that now may not be the time to fully establish a club. I do believe however that now is the time to discuss ideas for a new club. I also think maybe a club could rally Sherry\'s magazine and help it to grow. \r\n       I also think if discussion of a new club were to start. It maybe easier for some of the HPOC chapters to break away.\r\n\r\nThis weekend I\'m planning to write again for the mailing list. I\'d like to introduce the people on the list and explain why I think they will be beneficial to us. A few aren\'t members of hPOCA! \r\n\r\nI\'ve gotten some good responses, however the feeling is the same. We should wait until the current club is on its last breath.\r\nI agree but would like to add...the final breath may come sooner than what some think!\r\n\r\n\r\nFrank, One can never tell. Maybe things will turn around for HPOCA and we can use our ideas to rebuild it. I doubt it but we can always wish!\r\n\r\nI value you opinions and thoughts. So keep \'em comin\' I do wish somebody else would take the lead here. I don\'t think I\'m qualified!\r\n   <!-- s:idea: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_idea.gif\" alt=\":idea:\" title=\"Idea\" /><!-- s:idea: --> Danny','',0,0,'','2buc3t15',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3791,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085104668,1,1,1,0,'Danny Was right','At the winter convention, Danny said this HPO sounded like a bad deal.  His fears are slowly coming to surface.   I wish I could do something about it, but my hands appear to be tied.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','2vafut4c',0,0,'u_360','',0),(3795,0,88,0,'4.155.93.91',1085521432,1,1,1,0,'Re: financial report','Yeah, no question the financial report should be available to us. But I\'m sure since as far as I remember this is the first time it\'s been put in the magazine, that it was just filler. But he had TWO articles ready,,,,yeah right,,,,,,,that\'s about the same as \"the dog ate my homework\"\r\n\r\nWonder why the magazine\'s cost of production wasn\'t part of the financial report, or did I just miss it?','',0,0,'','2hh3e0e3',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3796,0,360,0,'198.77.42.244',1085528902,1,1,1,0,'Re: Danny Was right','This is just money for the clique to play with and how does this club think that it can do something like a museum when the #3 was a disaster.','',0,0,'','ieddw2c2',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3797,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085703341,1,1,1,0,'Re: Danny Was right','Ed,\r\nYou are exactly correct.  This club is dead, it has a president that, I believe, is a shyster.  If he has nothing to hide, why is he hiding?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','2wrccmq7',0,0,'u_360','',0),(3798,0,88,0,'4.155.93.21',1085244510,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','Yep, I had about the same reaction, Sherry is not haapy about it either. For some reason he wants to try to make us think that He and Sherry are pals. He\'s not fooling anyone. Have you noticed that Chris has not answered my question about the magazine regarding ad space versus article content. What a bunch of guys we have running this group!!!!\r\n\r\n                                Doug','',0,0,'','2ae8uf43',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3800,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085703475,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','Last thing I knew, Sherry and Andy couldn\'t stand each other, or at least Sherry couldn\'t stand Andy, Andy has the \"hots\" for Sherry.\r\n\r\nED','',0,0,'','30q2l8lj',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3803,0,88,0,'4.155.126.241',1085770105,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','I think Andy sees her magazine growing in popularity, before he was trying to tear her apart on this site, but maybe now he thinks if her mag takes off and HPOCA goes downhill, he might want to stay involved with her somehow?\r\nHard to figure that guy','',0,0,'','flx2r3sj',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3805,0,88,0,'4.155.75.129',1085719411,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','Yeah, so I have heard............Sherry thinks Andy\'s an idiot...........and I have to agree with her. I\'m sure no matter what he says or does, Sherry wil have nothing to do with him.....In fact she got mad at his attempt to promote her magazine','',0,0,'','z22bmoco',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3807,0,37,0,'',1073440732,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver equipment','[quote:1a7sdw4e]You mention a rotary cutter, is this the same as a 2 row stalk shredder? If so, is it an Oliver?  Also, where are you from?  Hopefully you are close to myself. Dubuque, IA.[/quote:1a7sdw4e]I think it would work on two rows but I live in East Tn','',0,0,'gA==','1a7sdw4e',0,0,'u_37','',0),(3808,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085809180,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','He is an idiot and proves that point every time he posts.  (Either that or he is \"educated beyond his intelligence.\"','',0,0,'gA==','3k4agi1k',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3809,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085809101,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','He is a strange agent, for sure.  Ever seen him in person?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','2i8ooqx8',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3812,0,88,0,'4.155.126.7',1085863277,1,1,1,0,'Re: Did You Catch Andy\'s \"ad\" for Oliver Heritage?','Oh yes,,,,,,,,once I had the misfortune of meeting Andy. He bent my ear for about 45 minutes. After meeting him, I can\'t believe he writes his own material, he doesn\'t seem bright enough to use the big words he uses on here.','',0,0,'gA==','3iowsj88',0,0,'u_464','',0),(3818,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086012343,1,1,1,0,'Memorial Day','I hope your holiday is going well. Finally starting to throw this flu. It sot of put a damper on weekend.\r\n\r\nAre you still planning on coming north. Visit Landis etc...\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','16yhu3fj',0,0,'u_35','',0),(3824,0,35,0,'65.4.194.204',1086049158,1,1,1,0,'Re: Memorial Day','Danny,\r\n\r\nThe flu is bad news anytime but it seems worse when the weather is warm and pretty. We are going to a wedding in up state NY and do plan to stop by Landis for a short visit. We will be leaving TN Sunday afternoon June 27th. We should make it to Landis sometime Tues. 29th.','',0,0,'gA==','1ux1ic7b',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3825,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085703341,1,1,1,0,'Re: Danny Was right','Ed,\r\nYou are exactly correct.  This club is dead, it has a president that, I believe, is a shyster.  If he has nothing to hide, why is he hiding?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','2mt26iqw',0,0,'u_360','',0),(3830,0,88,0,'4.155.129.200',1086390190,1,1,1,0,'Re: hey Doug','Well, it figures, I know everything hee is monitored. Big brother is watching, don\'t ya know?\r\n\r\nGreat to hear she had to add pages, funny how little ol\'Sherry can do that,\r\nbut the mighty HPOCA can not','',0,0,'gA==','1ln9wycb',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3832,0,5,0,'216.166.192.54',1086566858,1,1,1,0,'Belt Buckles','I have it from a fairly reliable source that the buckles are in the works. If the \"ball is dropped\", it will not be on the HPOCA end, but on the company making them. There seems to be some resistance there. Hopefully, they will produce them as in the past, or the HPOCA will find others more willing to work with them on this project.  oleblu','',0,0,'gA==','ekwqwy8f',0,0,'u_459','',0),(3837,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086727638,1,1,1,0,'Hey','Send me an email when you get the chance. Thanx, Danny','',0,0,'gA==','8m712n0n',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3841,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086729244,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey','I know. Last week or a couple ago, I had answered a fellows question about a 66. Jim was quick to answer right behind me. I thought it was quite funny. I never said anything YT mag is not the place to make a battlefield for HPOCA!\r\n\r\nI think he may have thought he taken the glory from my field. So to speak. Maybe he wanted a war there!      danny','',0,0,'gA==','1pnhn4v7',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3844,0,459,0,'67.250.226.95',1086576324,1,1,1,0,'Re: Belt Buckles','Thanks for letting me know about this. Normally, I think the buckles would have started to be sold in the magazine by now. I did this post just to get some information, not to give the Renegades something else to whine about. Glad to see that something is happening with the buckles.','',0,0,'gA==','2fpaj6f6',0,0,'u_5','',0),(3845,0,5,0,'216.166.193.42',1086746974,1,1,1,0,'Re: Belt Buckles','My source told me that Peter Markowski is taking care of the buckles. He called the supplier to get the ball rolling and it was three weeks before they got back to him. And when they did, they said they were awfully busy right now, they weren\'t sure.....  \r\n I hope it all works out, but I\'m sure there are other manufacturers out there that would welcome the business if the one we now have doesn\'t come through.                              oleblu','',0,0,'gA==','1ybqhg0r',0,0,'u_459','',0),(3848,0,88,0,'4.155.126.142',1086779284,1,1,1,0,'Where are they','Hi,\r\n\r\nWhere is everyone at? It even looks like Andy is gone.......not fielding the questions for Allen anymore. I think we have them scared, and they should be scared.......\r\n\r\n                                       Doug','',0,0,'gA==','17o0lwue',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3849,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086802343,1,1,1,0,'Re: Where are they','Yes I think so.   2 days have past the email gets sent to the pres. this afternoon.  Should be interesting to say the least!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','3nfeqark',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3853,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086886366,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey','I will after the 7 days are up!  I will forward it to all the members of my list today! But I think it would be wise to wait before posting anything about it. This is a decision he must make on his own. No pressure from us. \r\n\r\nDanny <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'gA==','1qxiknut',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3855,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1086999112,1,1,1,0,'Whats goin on','hey Eric,\r\n   How the hell are you?   Whats your email address?','',0,0,'gA==','su4ezo2i',0,0,'u_360','',0),(3858,0,360,0,'198.77.42.18',1087000162,1,1,1,0,'Re: Whats goin on','I am fine and how are you? Just got back from Indiana were I went to a Massey dealer disporsal. I know but went to get stuff to resell.  Did you See that I call kline on his use of yesterday tractor board. Got to run the address is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:edfrazi@pennswoods.net\">edfrazi@pennswoods.net</a><!-- e -->.\r\n\r\nEric','',0,0,'gA==','2tf9j55b',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3859,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1087173610,1,1,1,0,'Email sent to you','Doug, \r\n     Check your email!','',0,0,'gA==','2yg2qato',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3862,0,88,0,'4.155.129.186',1087175465,1,1,1,0,'Re: Email sent to you','Yep, I saw it,,,,,,,amazing, but doubt he will answer anything to our satisfaction','',0,0,'gA==','br6yoygx',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3863,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1087177710,1,1,1,0,'Re: Email sent to you','I know you\'re right!   but lets give him the benefit of the doubt.  I\'ve given him a 1/4 point credit for responding. This is out of 100! Seems like our odds maybe better this way then on the forum! At least we know he\'s alive!  <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: -->','',0,0,'gA==','3mdmypy7',0,0,'u_88','',0),(3866,0,88,0,'4.155.69.95',1087230101,1,1,1,0,'Re: Email sent to you','Yeah, I\'m suprised he responded at all, Maybe we finaly got to him,,,,and \r\nhe figures he better do something.','',0,0,'gA==','21p2u6l8',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3871,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1087583384,1,1,1,0,'Re: Letter?','Keith,\r\n     are you getting my emails? Just sent the first letter out yesterday. I haven\'t had any bounce back but let me make certain its not on my end\r\n\r\nEither way I\'ll forward you the first list of questions to the pres.    \r\nHe did respond to the first letter sent.     We are waiting for his answers!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','2krxhkam',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3872,0,459,0,'67.250.226.244',1087530663,1,1,1,0,'Re: Belt Buckles','Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry I haven\'t responded sooner. I have been gone for most of the past week on a one day tractor ride (57 miles)&amp; 2 day Oliver show, and a 3 day tractor ride (160 miles). Hopefully they will get the buckles done before the summer show. I have dealt with some of these companies in the past getting toy tractors produced. Some of them are getting increasingly harder to work with. They are farming out so much of their work to China, etc.','',0,0,'gA==','1g4l7jl4',0,0,'u_5','',0),(3876,0,492,0,'64.12.116.143',1087616291,1,1,1,0,'1850 PTO','Hi John,\r\nI need some advice on an 1850 PTO. It snaps in too hard, so I am going to try to adjust the clutches as explained in my IT book. I can\'t get the plug loose on the back of the PTO housing. I made a hex stub out of a 5/8 bolt and nuts. I can\'t get it broke loose. I\'m afraid I will round out the center of the hex. Do you have any suggestions? I really hate to heat the housing. I thought about maybe drilling several 1/8 holes all in a line from the edge to the center of the plug in hopes of letting the plug contract. \r\n\r\nWhat do you think?\r\n\r\nThanks, \r\nSteve Gorkow\r\nNorway, IA','',0,0,'gA==','27wf8q4i',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3891,0,628,0,'207.177.83.77',1087742813,1,1,1,0,'1755 bearing check','Hi , I\'m glad I caught you online ! I had plans for yesterday so I couldn\'t spend much time on computer . You asked for my address so you could send me something so here it is ; Randy Werthmuller 32313-175th St. , Clarksville ,IA 50619 . I\'m about 20 miles south of Charles City . I make it sound as if I\'m mechanically stupid when that\'s not entirely true . I do get intimidated by the internal tolerances of an engine . I\'m more of a knuckle buster than a measurer . Unfortunately I don\'t have anywhere on my farm to work on anything except a grass and gravel drive . I do however have weekend use of my bosses shop and equipment . Thanks,     Randy-IA\r\n \r\nMy address again :    Randy Werthmuller \r\n                                32313-175th St.\r\n                                Clarksville, IA\r\n                                             50619','',0,0,'gA==','2ztp7lmd',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3892,0,96,0,'216.201.29.79',1087745370,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 bearing check','Thanks: Send me a phone number also. To do this test you will need a small air compressor and the pan needs to come off the tractor. Also find out what bearings were put in the tractor and if new pin bushings were put in. I would also like an engine number and a serial number of the tractor. Can you get an oil analysis done?','',0,0,'gA==','3tq03d9h',0,0,'u_628','',0),(3904,0,628,0,'209.152.95.45',1087749345,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 bearing check','Hi, \r\n   My # is 319-290-2522 . The receipt I got from the seller for the repairs done ; Replace crankshaft , replace #3 rod -Labor = $840.00, 1 main bearing SET .010 $157.46 , 6 rod bearings .010 @ $14.22ea =$85.32 , 1 piston ring set $12.81 , 1 head gasket set $107.87 , another gasket set for $59.40 can\'t read what it\'s for , oil filter , oil and anti-freeze --- total  $ 1310.61 done on 5-4-04 by Country repair in Le Roy , MN . I bought the tractor on 5-22-04 . I can call to find out if the wrist pins where changed but it doesn\'t look like( from the receipt)  the pistons where removed this go-round . The seller told me the engine had a major rebuild about 1100 hours ago . ( It now has 4622 hrs on it unless the tachourmeter has been changed . I\'ve put 4 hrs on it ) It supposedly was rebuilt at around 3500 hrs by the previous owner .  The tractor serial # 253-103-676 and model # 675-22491, the engine # 75949 from the alternator mounting pad , the 3-speeds # has a small 0 followed by large 92267 but it looks like the 2nd two has a line through it horizontally. The engine starts very quickly, runs smoothly and quietly with no unusual knocks or rattles and doesn\'t smoke except under acceleration . I\'m sure I could find someone that we deal with through work that could get me a oil analysis done . This is a little long winded but I thought a complete background of events as I know them might be useful . Thanks again -Randy-IA','',0,0,'gA==','2h34v5px',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3905,0,96,0,'216.201.29.83',1087757263,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1850 PTO','We had an Allen wrench for that when I worked at the Oliver dealer. Of course it makes a difference if you have a 150 tractors running around that have the plug in the PTO. You need about 40 pounds of pull at the top of that handle. Send me a phone number and I will give you a call tomorrow night. john','',0,0,'gA==','a403y5fs',0,0,'u_492','',0),(3909,0,492,0,'152.163.253.2',1087852660,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1850 PTO','John,\r\n\r\n319-227-7281\r\n\r\nThanks, Steve','',0,0,'gA==','2abnzsht',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3923,0,480,0,'207.89.229.238',1088120315,1,1,1,0,'oliver 60 standard','HI JOHN  LOOKING FOR SHIFT LEVER HOUSING FOR AN OLIVER 60 STD. PART#H914A \r\nKEITH CARSON\r\nBOYNE FALLS,MICH','',0,0,'gA==','33f2ho7g',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3926,0,96,0,'216.201.29.53',1088242152,1,1,1,0,'Oil pressure','Have you checked the gauge? Do you know what a leakdown test is? Changing rod bearings on a 1650 gas will not change oil pressure.','',0,0,'gA==','iikimlb8',0,0,'u_627','',0),(3941,0,381,0,'206.176.222.122',1085888285,1,1,1,0,'Oliver parts','Hello, what you might be thinking of is Wisconsin Tractor Parts at 877-530-2010.  All I can say is that they aren\'t cheap!','',0,0,'gA==','1cyb7ohy',0,0,'u_403','',0),(3950,0,628,0,'209.152.95.34',1088393195,1,1,1,0,'!755 oil pressure - Randy-IA','Hi John,\r\n   I wrote a message earlier and I don\'t know if it went through or not so I\'ll do it again . I worked on the 1755 today for a short time and I took out the pressure relief valve in the main oil gallery . It didn\'t come out easily . I measured it out to 1-5/16\" -a 1/16\"  short according to my shop manual . So I found a nut that would fit inside the hollow valve under the spring . This fix made it about 3/32\" too long but I put it together anyway . I didn\'t measure the compressed length at 10lbs . I started the engine and it had 60+ psi , let it warm up good at 1200rpm , pressure dropped to 40 psi at 800 rpm . Big smile ! drove it about two miles and when I got home pressure was down to 10psi at 2000rpm . Big smile was gone !!! Engine still sounds good and runs great . Does 18.5 -19 mph according to the speedometer . \r\n   To do the leak test can I convert a propane tank ? I haven\'t found a freon tank yet . People just don\'t want to part with them . I have an old style propane tank that I don\'t use anymore but I don\'t know what kind of pressure they can take . This test doesn\'t go over 30psi does it ? I tried calling the number that you called me from because I thought you asked me to get back with you this weekend but  you used a calling card number . Good Idea by the way ;-}  What all do I need to do this test ? I have a grass driveway to work on and no shop or barn to put it in . I could use my bosses shop but with no oil pressure now I can\'t get it there , it\'s 7 miles from here . Up a creek without a paddle !  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> I always make due somehow . I can get pretty creative when I have to out of necessity Well thanks a lot and I\'m hoping to hear from you soon . Randy-IA','',0,0,'gA==','1n7883v1',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3952,0,96,0,'216.201.29.31',1088505530,1,1,1,0,'Re: !755 oil pressure - Randy-IA','ee if anyone has a brake bleeder tank. What ever tank you use you need to have fittings to put oil in the tractor and one to put air in the tank plus you need to be able to put about 2-3 quart of ATF in it. How about if you tow the tractor the 7 miles start it let it idle so you have steering and brakes. Send me e-mail to : <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e --> John','',0,0,'gA==','29dngpyh',0,0,'u_628','',0),(3958,0,259,0,'65.43.7.174',1088603474,1,1,1,0,'Oliver Musuem','Hi Danny,\r\n   Thanks for your posts and your efforts to get the president of this organization to answer important questions.  However, I want to give you some inside information on the proposed Oliver museum that you may not know.\r\n   Now, all of this is private, but I think you are sensible enough to keep this info hidden.  I will disavow any knowledge of this if this info gets \"out.\"\r\n   The likelihood of the Oliver museum being built in South Bend is slim to none.  I don\'t want to be negative, because anything can happen, but the amount of money needed to run a modern-day museum is just not there.\r\n   You cannot build just a pole barn and stick a few pieces of equipment in a corner and expect the public to flock through the doors.  By the fall of 2005 the Studebaker National Museum will build and open a new museum next to us (the Northern Indiana Center for History).  After that point, the HPOCA can forget about building a museum next to or close to us.  I believe that they had considered building on the old Oliver complex, but it was cost prohibitive.\r\n    And with this rift within the HPOCA and its membership, it will take nothing short of a miracle to get this proposed museum built before 2010!\r\n\r\n   Danny, thanks for your courage and fortitude in coming up with a logical and common sense approach to this problem.  I just wanted to give you this information because I noticed that some of the questions deal with this proposed Oliver museum.  BTW I have somewhat of a historical problem with the museum idea...only ONE model of Oliver tractor (sup99) was built in South Bend anyway.  Having this museum here in South Bend, with a building full of Oliver tractors, is not historically accurate or sensible.\r\n\r\nLike I said, all of this information I did not provide you and I don\'t know how you found out.\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nTravis Childs','',0,0,'gA==','cqorwdnv',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3964,0,465,0,'204.32.115.86',1088691605,1,1,1,0,'Your Post','Luke,\r\n Several of us so Called Renegades have decided to write a letter to the HPOCA Magazine asking Terry Allen for an explanation for his actions. Would you give us permission to quote your post on the forum. Any other input you might have would also help.\r\n   \r\n  Thanks\r\n Keith M.\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:keithmartin@dragonbbs.com\">keithmartin@dragonbbs.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'gA==','27cu2b5x',0,0,'u_617','',0),(3966,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1088702513,1,1,1,0,'Re: Letter?','Keith,\r\n    Make certain you include/ list our efforts to establish communication. Maybe include the first wave of questions from our list. It won\'t matter if the letter takes the whole page, as Chris needs content for the mag.!!!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','1ttmdwcn',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3970,0,47,0,'12.64.120.211',1088776912,1,1,1,0,'I hope this helps!','Hey John,\r\nI congratulate you on your ‘tech tips’ article, keep it coming. I’ll give you a little history, Dave Preuhs was writing them, he ran out of material, so, I did them for a year or two. Since then various members have done the occasional article, and when I have something interesting, I write something. The problem being, no individual collector that I know of collects broadly enough to cover everyones bases, we tend to collect in one or two areas, and those who cover a broad spectrum with their collection either can’t write, or won’t. So, it is good to have someone like you to cover the later model stuff..\r\n As far as the bylaws go, the committee has addressed the suggestions I received from members, from the internet, e-mail, phone, mail, and personal contact. The majority of suggestions have nothing to do with bylaws issues, with the majority being policy and procedure issues, which the bylaws committee has no authority to address. These issues have been referred to policy and procedure. Paul Rode has this duty, and is creating a policy and procedure manual, if you want to help him with this effort, perhaps you will phone him. He lives just south of Indy, not too far from you, just outside of the bypass, on a farm surrounded by urban sprawl. Most of the other issues deal with issues which tend to give one group influence over the majority. An instance is chapters, some chapters want far more representation than can be justified. We have over 6,000 active members, each member gets 1 vote, regardless of chapter affiliation. The best number I can lay my hands on is we have about 1,200 chapter members, that is about 20% of the association, which makes a minority, but some chapter members want the influence of a majority, which would be unfair to the other 80%. Chapters do deserve some representation, but it should be balanced to the interests of the majority, otherwise, it would be like giving each chapter member the representation of 2 or more votes. I ‘drafted’ Larry Widner to the committee at Lancaster, after having a communication problem, which required another member. Larry is the President of the Oliver Gang, and a strong advocate for chapter representation. After crunching numbers it was Larry who brought the issue of unfairness, and proposed combining a chapter coordination committee with membership, and allow each chapter 1 seat on the committee, with the chair being selected by this committee, from it’s members. The ratio is a little strong, but taking into consideration chapters have set a trend of having a higher rate of membership increase than the assn, on a percentile basis, in time this will adjust.\r\n You are correct in not supporting changes until you know what they are, I wouldn’t either. This will be addressed at Madison, SD, in a report, and recommended changes will be proposed. If this report is well taken, and accepted by the members present, the proposal will be included on the annual ballot, for vote by ALL members. Note: Our dues were raised at a membership meeting, though clearly the duty of the board, the vote did not represent the whole membership, only those present, If a vote is taken, let’s let every member in on it! Most of these changes will have to do with empowering the members, and the necessary housekeeping that the changes require. The object is to take the ability to influence from the President, and give it to the members. The committee is very cautious to insure viability of the corporation. We must go with the known, and proven at this point in time, to go with theory or what we think, can have disastrous consequences. Then add to the rhubarb, all the controversy of the last year, and the need for stability becomes obvious. It will be difficult in the current environment to field candidates, nobody wants to jump in the middle of the storm. This is pretty obvious from my position, I took this duty with no idea anything was up, except to do a little housekeeping, and contribute to the betterment of the association. Later, all hell breaks loose! Since the board insulates themselves on the internet, guess who gets to be the target. Bob Cook told me it might be better not to post, that way I can deal with what I committed to do, this has worked well for me, as mostly what I see on the forum is those who want to destroy instead of build. I see the association as a building that has weathered a storm and is damaged, should we tear it down and start all over? Or should we take that effort to repair the damage and continue to build? From my perspective, it still is standing, can be repaired easier than to start all over, and we can continue to build onto it, but first we need to stabilize the foundation. Not a big job, just takes a little time!  \r\n Another issue I am trying to get thru committee is to build a mechanism to get members active in the administration. I intend to try to set minimums for committees. When members serve on committees there is an increased likelihood they would be receptive to serving in an elected position. With the proposal to change all board positions to elected, rather than appointed, we will need a larger pool of willing candidates. I feel we have quite a number of new members, and members who have recently become more active who would wish to contribute, but are a little shy, or think they can’t. By opening up our committees to members, and this must be forced, they won’t do it on their own, we can give these members confidence, and experience to pursue greater goals! Thus, enhance the integrity and viability of the corporation!\r\nI hope this answers some of your questions.\r\nTake Care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'gA==','26ilsahg',0,0,'u_12','',0),(3973,0,465,0,'204.32.115.133',1088891521,1,1,1,0,'e-mail','Did you get my e-mail frm this morning?','',0,0,'gA==','3sbvif1z',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3974,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1088891605,1,1,1,0,'Re: e-mail','I just replied...Is that the one you sent!!','',0,0,'gA==','2irsi6zl',0,0,'u_465','',0),(3979,0,465,0,'204.32.115.133',1088891770,1,1,1,0,'Letter?','I\'ve lost your Ph. # If you got a few minutes call me.  513.304.7666','',0,0,'gA==','23aslli6',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3980,0,465,0,'204.32.115.127',1088892410,1,1,1,0,'phone #','I have lost your phone #    e-me or call 513.304.7666','',0,0,'gA==','2s21uykl',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3981,0,465,0,'204.32.115.127',1088892614,1,1,1,0,'e-mail','I sent you a CC: of a e-mail to Chris and Becky.Did you get that?','',0,0,'gA==','tqawcttv',0,0,'u_412','',0),(3985,0,627,0,'64.12.116.143',1088911509,1,1,1,0,'oil pressure','Thanks for a response, I don\'t know anything about these Oliver\'s. Where do they get their oil pressure from? I have noticed the oil pressure will drop before the rpm changes on a slite pull, and it feels like to me that I can feel a vibration at 1800 to 2000 rpm. I have used 20-40 and 20-50 oil and I have even put some STP oil treatment. The leak test, is that where you take and put transmission fluid under pressure? Where do you tap in the oil system? Thanks again. Ralph','',0,0,'gA==','3ggwvuqg',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3995,0,627,0,'205.188.116.143',1089001207,1,1,1,0,'oil pressure','Yes I have checked the gauge. No I don\'t know what a leakdown test is or how to do one. If the rod and main bearings does\'nt effect the oil pressure is it the cam bearings or something else.','',0,0,'gA==','11wv60rw',0,0,'u_96','',0),(3996,0,96,0,'216.201.29.97',1089021533,1,1,1,0,'Re: oil pressure','Mains do affect oil pressure. There is only one replaceable cam bearing. Rod bearings are oiled by a squirt system.  The pump is a vane pump. It is the same system they used on the 88 tractors from 1946 on and they ran with about 12-15 psi. In about 1960 they increased it to about 25 psi. Have you checked your spring on the pressure regulator which is an external check? You have a gas engine correct? The crankshaft is not drilled like an automotive crank. Where are you located and I will try to send you some information.','',0,0,'gA==','37lqd2v5',0,0,'u_627','',0),(4000,0,465,0,'206.216.156.119',1088999323,1,1,1,0,'My letter to Chris & Becky','In the letter to you I stated Luke Rizzuto was the California clubs president. I was wrong. I was trying to quote his post from memory. He stated he was a charter member.  I apologize for the mistake.','',0,0,'gA==','1n6sk74t',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4002,0,627,0,'205.188.116.144',1089048990,1,1,1,0,'Oil pressure','Hi John; Yes it is 1650 gas, and I did put a new oil pressure relief value and spring in. That was the first thing after I checked the gauge. And I found that someone had put a small nut under the spring and the value and spring show alot of wear, so I replaced both. I address is \r\nRalph Barnett 997 NW 1621st Road Bates City Mo. 64011 And my email is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rbarnett8080@aol.com\">rbarnett8080@aol.com</a><!-- e --> any help will be appreciated. Thanks','',0,0,'gA==','2vjbi7l8',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4011,0,465,0,'207.95.174.190',1089127046,1,1,1,0,'Your Post','Tied to reply to you by e-mail. Your link below is not working','',0,0,'gA==','1ojt8479',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4014,0,635,0,'65.118.253.130',1089168810,1,1,1,0,'WFE here','Hey John,\r\n\r\nGlad you guided me to this forum.  I was talking with Dean Barker this weekend about you and some of the other popular folks on this and the yesterday\'s tractors forum.  I think I\'ll enjoy this one as much as the yt site, especially if things fall into place and I find myself owning a 2255 in the months ahead.  Anyway, hopefully you can reply to this or find me in the profile; I should be registered here now.  Looking forward to more visiting soon!\r\n\r\nBest regards,\r\n\r\nCory Ziegler','',0,0,'gA==','21tzhcs7',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4015,0,627,0,'152.163.252.162',1089170091,1,1,1,0,'oil pressure','John did you get my last message with my email and address?','',0,0,'gA==','qamr9tsg',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4016,0,96,0,'216.201.29.108',1089196446,1,1,1,0,'Re: oil pressure','Yes I did. We hope to be done combining wheat by the weekend and then I will send you some items. John','',0,0,'gA==','2pyt4n0w',0,0,'u_627','',0),(4028,0,628,0,'207.177.83.171',1089332386,1,1,1,0,'1755 oil pressure','HI John ,\r\n    This is Randy-IA again . I got a oil test done and they called and told me I had anti-freeze and bearing material in the oil .  I changed the oil and filter and found flakes of bearing material on the filter but the oil did not appear sparkly in the sun . I\'m giving this oil change an hour or two of run time and then do another oil test . I know that the engine has big problems but I can\'t afford to fix it and I\'m not going to screw the next guy because I don\'t do that sort of thing . So the pasture doesn\'t get mowed or bailed . Someone on the forum called it field art . I got to play with it for a month anyway . Now only 35 more payments ! This is all that\'s happened to me since I moved to IOWA , there doesn\'t seem to be an honest person in this state . Thanks for all your help . Randy-IA','',0,0,'gA==','ptdulqjc',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4036,0,96,0,'216.201.29.111',1089455577,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','This may not be as big bucks as you think. We finished our wheat harvest last night and next week I should have a little time to talk to you. do you feel comfortable taking the pan off a nd starting to look at things?','',0,0,'gA==','25rgkpxj',0,0,'u_628','',0),(4038,0,96,0,'216.201.29.170',1089562263,1,1,1,0,'Re: WFE here','Thanks for the reply. We just finished wheat harvest and I should have more time for a reply this week. My e-mail is: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->\r\nDuane Starr also asked me if I knew your e-mail address. I think you also worked for a dealer but in a later time period. I started in 1960 and let in the middle of 76.  Yes I would like to chat with you some more also. John','',0,0,'gA==','1rxh89lk',0,0,'u_635','',0),(4039,0,96,0,'216.201.29.170',1089562376,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','I just though of this. I have a friend in Iowa who along with farming has a small shop and works on tractors in the off season. He would probably be glad to help you. Where are you located in Iowa? John','',0,0,'gA==','jbiaipl9',0,0,'u_628','',0),(4042,0,47,0,'12.64.60.156',1089608485,1,1,1,0,'Re: I hope this helps!','Hey John,\r\nI talk to Paul often, and in one of our conversations I told him than I asked you to call him about helping on policy &amp; procedures. He told me you would be welcomed. We have always had policy &amp; procedures, as well as I can determine, the problem is nobody has done anything with it. Wayne, nor Ollie addressed it while President. Paul started doing some work on it, but it wasn\'t something that was really needed, so, going has been slow. With these bylaws changes, and controversies, I have been putting some pretty severe pressure on Paul about the need to complete this project, more pressure than I am comfortable with. As I have been good friends with him for many years, I am certain he knows I am not comfortable with it, thus he will take it seriously. Bylaws should not cover every aspect of what we do, &amp; how we do it. Bylaws should be the rules that govern us, just the basic outline. Policy and procedure should cover the rest. A good example is to define \'conflict of interest\', this is something better left to policy and procedure, where as, election procedures should not be a policy and procedure issue, but, should be a bylaws issue. The issue of candidate qualification should be addressed in bylaws, but, how this is done is a policy and procedure issue. One is the parts book, the other is the service manual, they kind of work better together, but both do different things. There is a policy and procedure committee, it has only Paul working on it, nobody has stepped in to help him out. This is the same way bylaws was, a one man committee, until I took it, and said \'This is not acceptable!\'. An unusual thing I have noticed is the last time the bylaws was ready, it took 5 years, with a one man committee. This time it will be ready in 10 months, with a 5 to 7 man committee. I guess the more help, the faster it goes. Well, that and keeping the board out of the approval procedure, at least that way it isn\'t being sent back to committee for a single word change, then brought back to see the same thing done again. I am nearly finished with the bylaws, just a couple of more issues. Paul will probably be looking at policy and procedure taking this work into consideration. As I explained, the main purpose is to empower the membership. In doing this, we have opened the door to numerous procedural problems. Kind of like starting 2 fires for every one we put out, well maybe not that severe, but sometimes I feel like it! My biggest concern is fielding candidates, we will have twice the need. In the past it has been difficult to get 2 candidates for each position. Twice I have run for positions, knowing it was an incumbents field, and my chances were slim, but it did give the members a choice, which I feel is important. Well, my opinion of renegades is someone who hides behind a computer screen, and fusses, but when it is time to roll up your sleeves and go to work, is no place to be found. They say they want change, I don\'t see them contacting the nominating committee, and stepping up to the plate. Boy, if they do will they ever be in for a surprise! They get to do ALL the work!!! Well, I\'ve spent enough computer time for now, just got in from the state American Legion convention, and I gotta go to work in the morning.\r\nHave a wonderful day!!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'gA==','nq83xvws',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4048,0,374,0,'149.174.164.66',1089666593,1,1,1,0,'summer show','Keith I am going....got to go to western NE enroute to pickup my son then onto Madison....if we can make it work you are welcome...ED','',0,0,'gA==','vadp106y',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4050,0,640,0,'216.9.243.101',1089678240,1,1,1,0,'Vickers V120 Rebuild Kit','I replied on the cockshutt forum, but I\'ll post my reply here as well...\r\n\r\nThe pump is a V120. Both housings are good, although scored, so all I need is the central casting and the impeller with new vanes.\r\nAccording to the excellent web page... \r\n\r\n<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.geocities.com/dieseltempo/Oliver/pumprebuild.html\">http://www.geocities.com/dieseltempo/Ol ... build.html</a><!-- m -->\r\n\r\n...I can fix it with Cartridge kit #912058 and Seal kit #229236.\r\nMy local Motion Industries distributer can get me the seal kit, but the cartridge kit (according to them) is unavailable.\r\n\r\nIf you have a source for this hard-to-find kit I would be thrilled!\r\n\r\n- Robin.','',0,0,'gA==','32vtwag5',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4051,0,96,0,'216.201.29.89',1089678861,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers V120 Rebuild Kit','First question&gt; Is this for a 550 and if so what is the serial number and the width of the center section. The later ones are a little different. double check the number on your pump. I will check but can not do so until Thursday. John','',0,0,'gA==','3ge9g0ze',0,0,'u_640','',0),(4056,0,374,0,'149.174.164.66',1089666593,1,1,1,0,'summer show','Keith I am going....got to go to western NE enroute to pickup my son then onto Madison....if we can make it work you are welcome...ED','',0,0,'gA==','1hun3zrx',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4057,0,627,0,'64.12.116.143',1089343563,1,1,1,0,'screen','Thanks I will give them a try. Ralph','',0,0,'gA==','x6mzhz8a',0,0,'u_363','',0),(4058,0,363,0,'68.152.9.254',1089730362,1,1,1,0,'Re: screen','They are very helpful guys, they should be able to hook you up.\r\n\r\nGood luck\r\n\r\nAdam','',0,0,'gA==','3ee4ulzc',0,0,'u_627','',0),(4060,0,96,0,'216.201.29.49',1089768521,1,1,1,0,'Magazine','I have not gotten around to getting a subscription for Sherry\'s magazine, but how many other magazines from antique tractor clubs do you receive? I have read a few others that put this one and the Oliver one Sherry did  before behind a few others. Granted we have come a long way, but in my opion we have a long way to go.','',0,0,'gA==','1yv5rzkb',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4061,0,40,0,'64.12.116.143',1089720639,1,1,1,0,'Terry Allen','Ed: \r\n\r\nI\'m about to jump in on the discussions on unanswered questions for the president, but before I do I\'d like to know if you have called Terry Allen and asked him the questions over the phone.  If you have and he has not provided any answers I would like to know that.  \r\n\r\nI do believe that after the mess they got in when Sherry was fired, the board as a whole decided not to post anything on the website.  I can\'t prove that of course.  But after the PA meeting and the way they grilled me for 45 minutes and then Ollie the next day I am convinced that they can and will act in unison.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'gA==','1wto4xzh',0,0,'u_464','',0),(4062,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1089772524,1,1,1,0,'Re: Terry Allen','I would love to call Terry but Danny keeps telling me not to....That he said he would answer email and Danny is holding him to that point.\r\n\r\nED','',0,0,'gA==','2bzg7as4',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4063,0,363,0,'68.152.9.254',1089730362,1,1,1,0,'Re: screen','They are very helpful guys, they should be able to hook you up.\r\n\r\nGood luck\r\n\r\nAdam','',0,0,'gA==','q7lihmge',0,0,'u_627','',0),(4065,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1089772524,1,1,1,0,'Re: Terry Allen','I would love to call Terry but Danny keeps telling me not to....That he said he would answer email and Danny is holding him to that point.\r\n\r\nED','',0,0,'gA==','2edrwc1k',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4069,0,628,0,'209.152.95.62',1089845203,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','Hi John, I live just east of clarksville Which is about 18 miles or so south of Charles city . I\'ve been asking around at the smaller auto and diesel repair shops to see if there was a retired farmer around that liked to do this kind of thing but so far no luck . I still have a few more places to look .  My biggest hold-up is cash . Or the lack of it .  I\'d still like to do it myself or help alot with it to keep costs down .  If I open it up and can find where the anti-freeze is getting in I can decide what to do from there . If I find that a sleeve bore is eroded can that be fixed ? Other wise if they aren\'t leaking at that point and the bores look good all that\'ll need fixing is all the bearings .  What do you think ? Cam , crank and  rod bearings and the input shaft seal on the transmission and it\'ll be good to go . Take care,  Randy-IA','',0,0,'gA==','4pdgg2lx',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4071,0,96,0,'216.201.29.11',1089941573,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers V120 Rebuild Kit','The guy I deal with is on vacation. Between him and myself we will not see each other until about August 8th. Now I do not mind helping you, but there were two Vickers pumps used in the 550\'s THE KITS ARE NOT THE SAME, understand. We probably converted 75% to the later wider kit. I need a measurment and all the numbers off the side of the pump or forget this. I am not going to try to find a kit that you can not use. I worked for a dealer for 16 years in the 60 &amp; 70\'s. I have had one or two so to say apart.','',0,0,'gA==','zetc9z9v',0,0,'u_640','',0),(4078,0,640,0,'64.7.151.234',1090034935,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers V120 Rebuild Kit','Sorry I have not gotten back to you sooner - Since your first post I have not had time to get out of town to my sister\'s farm and make the measurment of the pump\'s central casting. I shall be out there tomorrow morning and post the info for you tomorrow afternoon.\r\nI\'ll get you the serial number of the tractor as well as the pump numbers - I don\'t know exactly what year it is, but judging from the grill it\'s a mid-sixties model.\r\nWe just rebuilt the carb in this tough old beauty and it would be a shame to let it sit idle for lack of hydraulics - your offer of assistance is greatly appreciated!\r\n\r\n - Robin','',0,0,'gA==','3qkmek0b',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4080,0,640,0,'64.7.151.44',1090096538,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers Pump Details','Ok, here\'s what I found out:\r\n\r\nThe pump has the following numbers stamped on a smooth surface on the bottom:\r\n\r\nV120 25 213 10\r\n0-21 S203\r\n\r\nThe pump\'s centre \"ring\" casting that envelops the rotor (it\'s what\'s cracked, and comes in the repair kit) is exactly 3\" square.\r\n\r\nThe tractor itself is a Cockshutt 550.\r\nModel #   45-0787\r\nSerial #   140603-519\r\n\r\nHope this is the info you need! Thanks again for your assistance.\r\n\r\n - Robin.','',0,0,'gA==','2afewiq1',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4081,0,96,0,'216.201.29.123',1090117471,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers Pump Details','I am glad you sent me that, You have the later pump to start with. By width I meant the width of the center section. Not the 3 inch dimension. Vicker made those pumps in probably 5 different widths for different displacements. Where are you located/ Also send me a phone number in case I get questions on the other end. John','',0,0,'gA==','hitlz5aj',0,0,'u_640','',0),(4084,0,640,0,'64.7.159.198',1090119439,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers Pump & Contact Info','Thanks very much for your quick response!\r\n\r\nHere\'s all my contact info...\r\n\r\nRobin Glennie\r\n12 Dupont Street West, apt 204\r\nWaterloo, Ontario, Canada\r\nN2L2X6\r\n\r\nHome 1-519-746-5140\r\nCell    1-519-589-1148\r\n\r\nIn disassembling the pump today I noticed the pressure plate and end plate were scored - I think too deeply to machine smooth without destroying the ring seal groove. I know those score marks adversly affect pressure, but I\'m not sure how much.\r\nGiven this, if you think a cartridge kit won\'t be sufficient, I could try to obtain a used pump as well (or, if it\'s cartridge set is ok, instead). A fellow on the Cockshutt site named \"Marty\" mentioned he had a couple kicking around - I sent him the info as well, just curious to see if one of them is a match.\r\n\r\n - Robin','',0,0,'gA==','3qb0x9nx',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4085,0,96,0,'216.201.29.29',1090163522,1,1,1,0,'60 Rebuilt Kit','There are kits out there. However if you look past the trees in the forest so to speak and the outside of your sleeves are servicable, you may want to consider reboring the sleeves and installing oversize aluminum pistons. Get a price on boring a 4 cylinder at your machine shop. A bore job, new pistons &amp; rings, usee acheap cast ring &amp; recon the rods. Should probably be $300.','',0,0,'gA==','6i3ygx22',0,0,'u_642','',0),(4091,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1090272972,1,1,1,0,'Whats Up','Doug,\r\n    Whats happening?   What the hell is Keith on about....I thought Pat Ertel was a strong supporters of Sherry!    I could be mistaken....Any way he certainly has nothing to do with HPOCA politics!!!     I think we may have a loose cannon as a renegade!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'gA==','mac2sy1e',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4094,0,88,0,'4.155.99.64',1090281107,1,1,1,0,'Re: Whats Up','Yeah, that didn\'t make much sense, Sherry told me Pat Ertel is ok,,,,,,but,\r\nshe don\'t really trust him. He\'s a business man first. Don\'t know who to trust in these situations some times. Doug','',0,0,'gA==','3k0xckbb',0,0,'u_412','',0),(4097,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1085104359,1,1,1,0,'Oliverfan','Have you been able to get a handle on who this \"Oliverfan\" dude is?  I think he is an old shit stirrer with a new name.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','1f8c96mo',0,0,'u_26','',0),(4099,0,514,0,'12.2.216.144',1090758644,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 880 engine','I live in Ohio and I have an 880 gas engine that is in excellent conditon and it has 3 and 3/4 inch flat top pistons and has 150 psi compression.  It is the complete engine and includes manifold, carb,and everything except the starter and generator.   It is in a tractor now and you can hear it run.   I am not really sure the exact price but I am thinking $1250.   Let me know what you think.  Terry','',0,0,'gA==','1lc4xgea',0,0,'u_637','',0),(4100,0,640,0,'64.7.159.90',1090734652,1,1,1,0,'Re: Vickers Pump Details','Regarding our phone conversation, the thickness of the center casting is exactly 3/4 \".\r\nI was unable to measure the diameter of the impeller cavity opening itself, as it seemed more oval than round.\r\n\r\nThanks again!\r\n\r\n - Robin.','',0,0,'gA==','3qjnmtrr',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4103,0,644,0,'4.239.165.67',1090807397,1,1,1,0,'1755w/loader','Thanks for offering your help. I just got the tractor and this problem is driving me nuts...','',0,0,'gA==','2nxw7nlp',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4104,0,96,0,'216.201.29.199',1090838108,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','Send me your e-mail and phone number and I will give you a call but probably not untill Wednesday evening.','',0,0,'gA==','184n3kes',0,0,'u_644','',0),(4113,0,644,0,'216.220.164.106',1090892639,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','My email is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:mdfyock@yahoo.com\">mdfyock@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->\r\nBest way to reach me is on the cell. 717-341-2462.\r\nThanks','',0,0,'gA==','1640sndw',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4123,0,47,0,'12.65.108.185',1091325592,1,1,1,0,'Hi!!!','Hey Doug,\r\nI kind of figured the less I posted, the less controversy, and things were kind of getting out of hand. I am closer to the middle than you realize. You don\'t see the e-mails I send the board, and we do exchange some scorchers. They don\'t, nor do I expect to see them post. So, you see only one side. I wish they would, but that I have no control over. To be frank, I don\'t like either side of those arguements, I can find lots of wrong on both sides, that is not why I joined, but since I did, I am determined to make a positive improvement. How this will all shake out? I have no idea! But it will, always does! As you know from our past exchanges, my favorite concept is to let the members decide. That is pretty much going back to the basics. My methods may be somewhat unorthodox, they get results! What I do know is HPOCA needs to find stability!! I guess nobody will need to worry about the BOD after this next election, well at least 3 of the appointed positions. I haven\'t talked to one of the directors yet, none of the rest want to return, and last weekend I heard from a reliable source that Terry will not either. I kind of fiqured that, when he was telling me about his workload. He really doesn\'t have time, since he bought the lawncare business, the rental was full time enough. I know I couldn\'t take on another full time business, especially a seasonal one, and with it running the same season as the rental business????? Good money, lots of punishment to get it! Then 6 months of nothing! Not for me!!! \r\nI did get a big kick out of being called a renegade, thought it was funny as all get out!!! I figured you might find it amusing also! One thing I must admit, of the so call renegades, you are the only one with enough fortitude to come up and introduce yourself at the WGT. Some of the others promised to, but didn\'t. You had no problem finding me, none whatsoever, finding me was no problem. I was told in advance that some of those guys wouldn\'t come face to face, by mutual aquaintances. Well, that tells me something. I guess the smartest one was the fellow at Bob LeFever\'s place that had a cap which said \'It\'s just a hobby!\'\r\nHey, take care of yourself!!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'gA==','1f1lilvp',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4126,0,88,0,'4.155.57.136',1091327334,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi!!!','Andy,\r\n\r\nI guess I base my opinion on the fact that when the board fired Sherry you appeared to back them 100%. You also took a hard line against Sherry. I know since then you seemed to be less critical of her. My stand is that when you go back to that time (when she was fired) the board acted in an autocratic manner. Terry promised but never really gave any honest explanation. Not to rehash, since what\'s done is done. He still refuses to respond to the members in a way that would satisfy them. \r\n\r\nIn my own case if Terry and his board had explained themselves and truly were serving the members in the best way, I would have backed them.\r\nI had no connection to Sherry prior to this mess. I did always feel she did a good job on the magazine. I think as it all turned out, she is probably better of on her own. It\'s unfortunate the way things did work out for the members. It has showed us we have a president that basically does\'nt give a \"you know what\" about us, or the HPOCA as a whole. Ignoring the issues is a real bad move on his part. Anyway, it will change as I feel confident that this group will not serve another term. The only problem, as I have said before is that the nominating process is totally wrong. The way it stands, we will have new officers, but they will be from the \"good ol boys\" group, as they can control the process the way they want it. It\'s sad that a tractor club has to get so mired in politics. \r\n\r\nAnyway, just my thoughts on the whole situation. Hope all is well with you\r\ndown thar in W VA.\r\n\r\n                                            Doug','',0,0,'gA==','2fh7f9bo',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4128,0,47,0,'12.65.174.97',1091379921,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi!!!','Hey Doug,\r\nYou are somewhat correct, I did, and do support that termination, and have reason to do so. First, if you remember, I ran opposing Terry for President. I did so for several good reasons, one of which was Sherry. There were at that time situations developing, which were a cause for concern to me, among them a power play for control of the organization, at least that is what it looked like to me. If the board had put their foot down at that time, nothing would had developed, but Sherry had enormous influence with them. Landis had gotten very close to her over the years, which I feel in not appropriate for someone in a supervisory position. And as a result, there was influence peddling. None of this was good for the association. But, it was something that didn\'t need to be addressed to the members, it wouldn\'t benefit anyone. Terry as you know, carried the election. It was by far the highest vote total we ever had, my total was sufficiently high enough to had carried in any previous election, matter of fact, we doubled previous numbers. That in itself should tell a power play was in progress, why did twice as many members suddenly decide to vote? Not normal! What I did do is, when Terry won the election, I shook his hand, congratulated him, and supported him. I detest a sore loser, I\'ve seen some, they are not happy people. If the members supported the winner, I will also, thus, I am not in that catagory. I may not always agree, but I will support. We try to keep these disagreements amongst ourselves. Since the members supported Terry in the election, my only reasonable choice is to accept the will of the members. This has worked well, I have brought forward issues that would never been possible in the past. The peak of Sherry\'s influence over the board was at the California WGT. A couple of major changes that I feel were very bad happened at that meeting. She always had friction with Mary Ann Townsend, our former Charles City secretary, and Don Barnett, the fellow who was trying to set up our website. Mary Ann had been doing an excellent job, ever since our association was founded, she was, and is easy to work with. Sherry came into the meeting with Landis, and his at that time buddy Peter Markowski, in Peter\'s report he recommended putting everything in one location. Well, Mary Ann couldn\'t be there, but she got word, and saw the handwriting on the wall, she resigned! The end result is we have McMillian doing her job, and it cost us members about $20,000 more per year. Oh, by the way, they are the same folks who handle the subscriptions for Sherry\'s buddy Pat Ertel, I wonder how good of friends they still are? Then, Don was working on the website, I admit, he was doing a lousy job, but he was doing an excellent job making sure our trailer got to where it needed to be, and it was stocked and inventoried. At that same meeting, they jerked the carpet our from under Don, paid Sherry to do the website, Don wasn\'t getting paid, and had Chris do the work for free! Don dropped completely out, I don\'t blame him. I just in the last year have been able to talk him into joining again. All this is just indications of bigger problems, and a need for good management which we don\'t have! I believe at some point Sherry became overconfident, things were said, and things done, that I am not comfortable with. The main reason Terry hasn\'t told more is he is under threat of lawsuit, for several different causes. His lawyer told him to go easy, if he didn\'t want to be in court. HPOCA couldn\'t be taken into court on it, but he could, if he opened up. As a result, he has been very cautious. Initially, he thought he could tell all, didn\'t work out that way! If you noticed on one of Sherry\'s posts, she told me to be careful, something about defamation of character. Well, I\'m a small fish, where would that leave Terry? I think in a tough position! Much of what I am telling you is my own personal opinion developed thru observation of events. Most can be verified in minutes of meetings. I like Sherry, and I like Landis, I consider both to be good friends. I just don\'t agree with some of their issues, or the way these issues were addressed. On the other hand, sometimes I disagree with the board, their issues, and the way they are addressed. I keep a separation between people and issues, which at time is tough, and at times upsets people. One case would be Sherry\'s reply to John Tichenor\'s letter in the magazine, if that wasn\'t a challenge, I don\'t know what would be. I wouldn\'t blame the board for picking up the glove on that one. They tell me they didn\'t, and it wasn\'t a basis, I can\'t see how! There were I feel many underlying problems, I feel some may have eventually surfaced, and shown their ugly face! I can see where the board\'s action was justified, on the other hand, I can see where all this could have been prevented, I could see this at the time, perhaps the board couldn\'t, or didn\'t want to. And I could see where the situation could be managed differently, I tend to agree with Bill Brandt on that. For about a month or maybe a little longer before the Penfield show, I campaigned to get the contract renewed. The majority of the board were fed up. My workable point was, if the members are happy with the product they get, and it is on time, they obviously have no problems. If the board has problems, then put your own fires out. Well, Luke Rizzuto told them about the same thing, the result was a renewed contract. I don\'t agree with the way the termination was handled, I must agree it was justifiable, and can find reasonable cause. With money being the root of all evil, I personally feel this effected the situation for several years. I have been told I am wrong, it is hard for me to believe, in view of all that has transpired.\r\nAs far as nominations, I did have to use manipulation to get nominated to run against Terry. I told some nominating committee members I could be nominated thru the committee, or from the floor. There were 3 of us, Terry, Ollie, and myself, Ollie dropped out. Well, I don\'t think we need to talk about effects of numbers, we know the final results. Just an example of politics, I want them to go away!!!\r\nHow do we achieve this? Go back to our basics! I always say,\'We all pay dues, we are all equal!\', we should worry about playing with our tractors, and let the professional politicians play with their politics. I agree it is a sorry state of affairs! I am actively working, seeking solutions to these problems. It does have a very strong influence as to how I work with the bylaws committee, and how I work with members! I am not sure as to whether this website works toward solving problems, or to create dissention. I see lots of good ideas, but few solutions. What I see is we have a problem, what I rarely see is how to solve the problem, at least from my perspective. You are one of the few who have worked with me to solve problems, most just present a problem for me to find a solution, then when I do, sit back and throw rocks. So, it is not real encouraging for me to post. I admit, I throw a few rocks myself, it is very frustration to be presented problems which do not pertain to the issues at hand. And bylaw issues should deal with bylaws, not everything on anyones want list!\r\nI had a friend who had 2 teenage daughters, one day they argued as teenaged girls sometimes do, as to which one their father loved the most. He told them, \'I hate you equally!\', I am rapidly developing the same opinion of all the factions which we face!\r\nI hope this helps you to understand my reason for position, and opinions!\r\nHave a great day up there in PA!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'gA==','1050fbaf',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4132,0,10611,0,'209.153.132.43',1091416771,1,1,1,1,'Re: 770 Pictures','That\'s a good idea Bill. We did use at least one picture from everybody that had sent something in time for us to use it, but some of them sent several pictures that were excellent, and we didn\'t think it was fair to use 10 from one member and only 1 or 2 from another. There\'s a couple I\'l probably still hold back, because they would make great cover photos for future issues, and sometimes a cover quality photo can be hard to come up with.\r\n\r\nIt will be a few days before I can add them, we are getting the articles for the next issue ready to go now, and need to concentrate on that so we can try to get the schedule moved up some each issue. We want to be mailing on the first by January.','',0,0,'gA==','1r7fsir2',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4136,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.196',1091500169,1,1,1,1,'Re: 770 Pictures','Send them on in. We can\'t have too many!!!\r\n\r\nThanks.','',0,0,'gA==','2hqqs022',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4140,0,144,0,'',1074032830,1,1,1,1,'125 oliver','If you don\'t find a trade deal, I would be interested if you would like to sell it. Randy','',0,0,'gA==','ta49htnh',0,0,'u_144','',0),(4141,0,644,0,'4.239.180.203',1091380387,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','Sorry I didnt get back to you when you called. Things have gotten a little crazy at work in the last few days. I think your right on your diagnosis of the problem. I have a few flow controls at work I couldplumb in to see if it solves the problem, but I think I am just going to plumb the loader in using seperate spool valves so that I still have my remotes available. \r\nThanks for the help.','',0,0,'gA==','s18kacxd',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4142,0,96,0,'216.201.29.89',1091745574,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','Two things. You will ned closed center valves and I have a pair. You will still maybe need flow controls because the basic valves do not. I was on vacation maybe closer to you. I was in Baltimore.','',0,0,'gA==','3mwis2wx',0,0,'u_644','',0),(4143,0,47,0,'12.64.140.120',1091791222,1,1,1,0,'For your Father.','Hey Frank,\r\nPlease tell your father \'Happy Birthday!\' for me. Also, would you please tell him \'Thank you for your service to our country!\'. Veterans do not get the appreciation which they deserve, every time I hear of a veteran, I try to thank them. Without their sacrifice, we would not enjoy the freedoms which many take for granted! By the way, has he contributed his memories to the \"Veteran\'s History Project\'? This is a program of the Library Of Congress, American Folklife Center. It archives the contributions of veterans, so, these sacrifices are not lost and are preserved for future generations. As Historian of WV Post 139, of the American Legion, I learned of this program, and have our post setup as a contributing member to the program. We get some really good contributions, one member served at Pearl Harbor, then drove Higgen\'s boats to Omaha Beach. Does he ever have stories to tell! There is a website, <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.loc.gov/folklife/vets/\">http://www.loc.gov/folklife/vets/</a><!-- m -->\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'gA==','2o56dol1',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4146,0,644,0,'24.152.208.204',1091810023,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','Baltimore is about 1.5 hours from me. Not a bad place to go. The inner harbor there is neat. Thinking about doing a joystick control for the loader. Not sure if I want to run the setup with the valve right on the stick, or the cable type where the valve is remotely located. The tractor has a cab on it so it might be hard to get all the hydraulic lines in the cab, thats why i am leaning towards cable operated. Balm Hydraulics has a lot of valves available. Do you recommend any other source?','',0,0,'gA==','nd357fu1',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4147,0,96,0,'216.201.29.37',1091839140,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','I used to teach some product classes for Gresen until Dana sold it off to Parker. I have worked with Force America and Florig both. If you go joystick that means pilot operated so you will need a pilot source.','',0,0,'gA==','1gzylu3b',0,0,'u_644','',0),(4153,0,597,0,'161.184.202.61',1092002037,1,1,1,0,'piston rings','don\'t know where you are located. i have had good luck finding engine parts for my cockshutt 80 through Continental Engines in Edmonton AB.\r\nJames is the man to talk to. They still have some of the books on these old engies and access to people to get the parts. They can be reached at (780)426-3890 or by fax at (780)462-5899. Maybe the dealer for Continental engines in your area has contacts that can find the parts for you.Hope it is some kind of help.','',0,0,'gA==','2927mhxr',0,0,'u_218','',0),(4154,0,644,0,'216.220.164.80',1091998530,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','What do you mean by a pilot source? The one joystick control I saw just went on a closed centered valves when two were stacked side by side.','',0,0,'gA==','kut5cep7',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4156,0,96,0,'216.201.29.129',1092147463,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755w/loader','Sorry: I was thinking when you said you did not want the valve in the cab you were talking a joystick like is used on a cable TY bucket truck. You are talking a simple hand joystick.','',0,0,'gA==','2me6xkst',0,0,'u_644','',0),(4161,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092185685,1,1,1,0,'Current BOD','Imagine nobody wanting to work with the current BOD.  Wonder why?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','26btkrz7',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4162,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092185959,1,1,1,0,'Pats Removal','I wonder if the HPOCA Mafia got to him, threatened him with the dreaded....cracked engine blocks?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','3a5achf9',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4163,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092185685,1,1,1,0,'Current BOD','Imagine nobody wanting to work with the current BOD.  Wonder why?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'gA==','3p3xaj60',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4170,0,12,0,'69.128.201.159',1092241478,1,1,1,0,'Looking for input','Hi Bill,\r\n\r\n  I am considering running for the President\'s office and had some questions for you. I know we\'ve never met but I can tell from your posts and the messages we have sent back and forth that you are concerned about the organization. You also seem to be level headed and not afraid to consider new ideas and think things through.\r\n\r\n   The first question is what kind of changes do you see need to be done to improve and advance the club? Second would you be willing to chair or serve on a committee? \r\n\r\n   I have several ideas on how to expand the membership, provide more information on repair/restoration, and have a generally more organized and professional club.\r\n\r\n   Thanks for your time and reply, John Hume, \"Wrenchbender\"','',0,0,'gA==','ve1dzzf7',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4174,0,40,0,'205.188.116.144',1092281299,1,1,1,0,'Re: Looking for input','John:\r\n\r\nGlad to hear you might run for pres.\r\n\r\nTo tell you the truth I don\'t think the club has to be changed too much.  The big thing in my mind is to get elected board members.  Which by the way are required by the articles of incorporation.  One thing the current guys talk about and worry about is that if the board is elected, the elected reps may not devote enough time to running the club  and just a few will have to do all the club business.   Maybe they are right and maybe they are not, but we won\'t know unless we get some new blood sometime.\r\n\r\nI think getting the by-laws changed to require an elected board is the big thing.  I\'m not too sure I like the new museum foundation, but I don\'t know enough to be sure one way or the other.\r\n\r\nI don\'t know who \"their candidate\" will be, maybe they won\'t have one.  I\'m sure hoping Terry does not run again.  I can\'t figure out if he is a genius or just barely has his light blub lit, but I do know he is not my favorite fellow.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'gA==','2itj3egs',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4175,0,40,0,'205.188.116.144',1092281299,1,1,1,0,'Re: Looking for input','John:\r\n\r\nGlad to hear you might run for pres.\r\n\r\nTo tell you the truth I don\'t think the club has to be changed too much.  The big thing in my mind is to get elected board members.  Which by the way are required by the articles of incorporation.  One thing the current guys talk about and worry about is that if the board is elected, the elected reps may not devote enough time to running the club  and just a few will have to do all the club business.   Maybe they are right and maybe they are not, but we won\'t know unless we get some new blood sometime.\r\n\r\nI think getting the by-laws changed to require an elected board is the big thing.  I\'m not too sure I like the new museum foundation, but I don\'t know enough to be sure one way or the other.\r\n\r\nI don\'t know who \"their candidate\" will be, maybe they won\'t have one.  I\'m sure hoping Terry does not run again.  I can\'t figure out if he is a genius or just barely has his light blub lit, but I do know he is not my favorite fellow.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'gA==','2itj3egs',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4177,0,96,0,'216.201.29.103',1092344964,1,1,1,0,'77 with 88 engine','The 88 will bolt up with the same holes the 77 uses. the front frame for the 770 and the 880 are the same. There will be small problems. That is why you see these 1950-T engines in 77 &amp; 88 tractors.','',0,0,'gA==','swcd6a9j',0,0,'u_657','',0),(4178,0,450,0,'206.144.234.134',1092333402,1,1,1,0,'1800 Checkerboard','Hi John, LET ME KNOW WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME REGARDING THE 1800. SURE DOES RUN AND DRIVE LIKE A DREAM. I HOPE IT WILL BE AS GOOD A TRACTOR as my 1800 C[/b]','',0,0,'','3r5of6x0',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4179,0,88,0,'4.155.129.161',1092186282,1,1,1,0,'Re: Current BOD','Well, it\'s either that, or if anyone is dumb enough to want the job, Terry and his merry men probably rejected them.','',0,0,'','38ect65m',0,0,'u_464','',0),(4180,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092360241,1,1,1,0,'Re: Current BOD','I would love to run for BOD or President, but I do not have the time, nor the financial resources to travel from the east coast to the midwest for meetings.  If they held them via \"net conference\" I\'d be tickled pink, however an absentee president is no good.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','p2zb6up9',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4183,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092185959,1,1,1,0,'Pats Removal','I wonder if the HPOCA Mafia got to him, threatened him with the dreaded....cracked engine blocks?\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','1qe2ozpp',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4185,0,96,0,'216.201.29.211',1092448899,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1800 Checkerboard','They were new when I started in 1960. There are a multitude of little changes in them. What is your serial number. On the oil pump it runs off the countershaft and the filter is normally mounted under the floor board. Get back with you Sunday.','',0,0,'','3hygej3t',0,0,'u_450','',0),(4188,0,96,0,'216.201.29.147',1092485412,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','Adding an extra say 4 quart will help. I never saw this tractor as it was east of us and sold by another dealer, but it had a Lube finder set up off a semi as they also did trucking. The extra 3 gallon kept the oil a lot cooler. On your mower. It is a half breed. It is the Old Cockshutt 315 mower with an Oliver cutter bar. We sold the Farmhand line and so 90% of the rakes we sod were wheel rakes. My other computer is in the shop so this is your only address I have. If you put a lube finder on you will not neeed a cooler pump. The balers are good balers. Ask Ian C about parts as Heston is in there somewhere on the later balers.','',0,0,'','23gq5x69',0,0,'u_628','',0),(4189,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092360241,1,1,1,0,'Re: Current BOD','I would love to run for BOD or President, but I do not have the time, nor the financial resources to travel from the east coast to the midwest for meetings.  If they held them via \"net conference\" I\'d be tickled pink, however an absentee president is no good.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','3gptzy6m',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4191,0,465,0,'4.225.90.24',1092436645,1,1,1,0,'Re: Pats Removal','Ed \r\n\r\nSorry to admit it but I just don\'t give a damn any more.  I can\'t make the summer show now. Can\'t make a difference. screw it.','',0,0,'','ac8tt53m',0,0,'u_464','',0),(4192,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092531259,1,1,1,0,'Re: Pats Removal','I really do not blame you at all.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','18ho6612',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4193,0,96,0,'216.201.29.4',1092581040,1,1,1,0,'Super 88 Diesel','The first thing is you will need to remove one of the 1-1/8 inch nuts that hold the energy cells in place. Drill clear through it but with a size drill that you can tap  it with a 1/8 inch pipe tap. You will need to go to your auto parts store and get a male adapter so you can plug your air hose directly to this. You will also need to remove the energy cell cap that is behind this nut. Grap the stem with a needle nose Vise Grips and put it out. You will need to do this for all 6 of them. Put the cap back on. Take the valve cover  off and loosen all the nuts holding the rocker arms down about 3/4 inch. This is so the valves can not open. Then pump air in each cylinder one at a time and see where the air leaks: out of the intake manifold, the exhaust manifold or the dipstick hole. Our fair is going on this week so I am hard to find this week. Send me your phone number and it may be easier for me to call you this week. I would also like a serial number of the tractor.  John','',0,0,'','25xtjfbv',0,0,'u_279','',0),(4198,0,368,0,'209.150.251.116',1092452897,1,1,1,0,'77 swap','I might be intersted in a trade. I don\'t think you will be though after you see the one I have got. The sheet metal is rough. the tires are poor. It has no hydraulics. But it runs good and it has good brakes. Let me know if you would like some pictures. Thanks, Steve','',0,0,'','3e89fnqk',0,0,'u_37','',0),(4203,0,450,0,'209.105.32.86',1092706008,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1800 Checkerboard','Hi John, the tractor is serial number 110 412 886, which makes it a late 1960 model. I actually don\'t think that it has the lube pump. Looks pretty bare, no filter, no other mods, all original. Could not having the lube pump cause me headaches in the feature? It will not do hard pulling, just haybine, corn planter, etc. Runs well, but does not start well. , uses no oil, but w/ only 3400 hrs, should be just getting broke in. Any other comments about these tractors? Thanks, Wide Open.','',0,0,'','2dyp657e',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4206,0,10611,0,'209.153.142.196',1092766477,1,1,1,1,'your post','Duane,\r\n\r\nFirst, let me say that you have made a fantastic post. I would hate to see a great club fall prey to what has torn apart clubs for other color tractors.\r\n\r\nI see you posted it twice., but they look the same. Would you like me to delete on of them. I have editing turned off in the HPOCA forum, so only I can delete that post. If you want the extra one removed, just let me know.','',0,0,'','oui4i5lm',0,0,'u_163','',0),(4207,0,279,0,'69.66.68.145',1092743640,1,1,1,0,'88 diesel','John Zeke with the super 88 diesel checked pm box no message','',0,0,'','155r11ii',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4208,0,96,0,'216.201.29.19',1092775065,1,1,1,0,'Re: 88 diesel','Let me try it again. Send me a phone number or regular e-mail and I will get with you some time this week.','',0,0,'','4bdfwo48',0,0,'u_279','',0),(4209,0,96,0,'216.201.29.201',1092792768,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1800 Checkerboard','The key thing is to check the oil in both the final drive and the transmission compartments. Those tractors were wied in some would transfer the oil from front to rear which is not good and some from rear to front . On the starting. That was a problem and in the spring of 1961 Oliver came out and put an expermental head on the tractor we had sold that would not start. End of problem. The change was they put valve seats in the head and probably set the recession for the valves correctly. It started good then.','',0,0,'','162xhcbw',0,0,'u_450','',0),(4212,0,279,0,'69.66.68.177',1092793828,1,1,1,0,'Re: Super 88 Diesel','John found your message new here and it takes me awhile. The ser# is 43906- 801 my phone is 712-297- 8688 home or 712- 830- 6051 cell thanks Zeke','',0,0,'','1o0va7e5',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4219,0,35,0,'65.4.197.33',1091842775,1,1,1,0,'Re: For your Father.','Thanks Andy.  I will tell him.\r\nFrank','',0,0,'','2v0lrmeq',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4220,0,88,0,'4.155.99.31',1091843833,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi!!!','Hi Andy,\r\n\r\nYou know, sometimes all this politics makes my head hurt, so I\'m taking a break from it for a while. Back to \"other\" things..... Speaking of that, in your travels do you ever run across any Cletrac A\'s. either an AG-6 gas, or AD. ?  I have a couple right now, but as is the case with many old crawlers they are pretty rough, and two of them have bad engines. THe Cletrac A was always my Dads favorite, and he just turned 80. I would lke to find a decent one while he can still enjoy it. So, if you know of anything, I would appreciate you letting me know.\r\n\r\n\r\n                               Thanks, Doug','',0,0,'','187k1r7c',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4221,0,47,0,'12.64.24.7',1092939453,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi!!!','Hey Doug,\r\nSure thing, one of our members wants to sell an AG-6, his name is believe it or not, Gary Cooper, his phone number is (304) 743-9159. I just rebuilt that engine before trading with him for a Cletrac HG. He let it set with water in the radiator, and it cracked the head on the outside. It could be repaired, brazed, or nickle flux welded. Inside it has new crank, bearings, rings, valves, valve guides, cam bearings, anything else worn was replaced. The carb is not original, so it is hard to get the governor exactly as it should be, and the tracks need rollers, and pins. I did lots of other repairs to that tractor, and considered buying it back from him, but with 7 other tractors wanting my attention, I figured it to be better to work on them, before taking on something else. It should fit the bill for what you are looking for though, maybe you can take one that you have, and this one, to make a really good tractor. I can agree with the politics, I\'ll be glad when I get to Madison, and report on the proposed changes to the bylaws. That will be a big relief!!! I just wish we all could look at this thing as a hobby, which it is!!! I think over the years, money has gotten increasingly involved, and messed things up!!!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1uc7ezdd',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4225,0,163,0,'216.51.171.177',1092880576,1,1,1,0,'double post','Thanks Chris I am not real quick on the key board so thanks for correcting that. I am not overjoyed with some of the things that have occered over the past year but I like ollies. I am fifty years old can donate some time to the venture  of the club  let me know of any new and postive ideas. Duane Brandt','',0,0,'','c9p9hh9a',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4228,0,47,0,'12.65.204.183',1093012419,1,1,1,0,'Summer Show','Hey Frank,\r\nI have been trying to phone you, yesterday and today, no luck.\r\nAre you going to be at the Summer Show in Madison, SD, on Friday, August 27? If so, I will have a couple of bylaws committee members who are not going to make it. I have called Bill Brandt, he may, or may not be there, depending upon other commitments. I will be able to utilize both alternates, and may possibly need to draft somebody. The meeting will probably be a formality, and will be in the early afternoon. I expect to present the final draft to the committee, and take a vote to clear committee. You can reply to my e-mail, <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com\">tchtiphpoca@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->\r\nHave a great day, and take care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','v5pnnjrz',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4229,0,96,0,'216.201.29.69',1093019620,1,1,1,0,'Questions','Send me your phone number and normal e-mail address. I am in Ohio, where are you?','',0,0,'','3gol43dn',0,0,'u_488','',0),(4246,0,35,0,'208.63.189.171',1093057511,1,1,1,0,'Re: Summer Show','Andy,\r\n\r\nI am sorry that I can\'t make the show. The show comes too late in the summer for college folks. Our in-service begins Monday and I was asked by our new president to be V.P. during the transition. I will be in this position until at least June 30th therefore my tractoring will be very limited this year. <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,0,'','8yvi7w2d',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4247,0,47,0,'12.65.168.49',1093079203,1,1,1,0,'Re: Summer Show','Hey Frank,\r\nThanks for the reply! Congratulations on your new assignment! I guess the remaining work on the bylaws is minimal, I almost have the proposal finished. The current version has approval of the majority of the committee members, just a change or two to the wording left. Then I will create a final draft. I am hoping to have all this done by Monday, so that I can have adaquate copies made before leaving for Madison. E-mail is working well in this endeavor. Perhaps, all that will be required in Madison is a final vote to clear committee. Then maybe there will be time for tractors!\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','2iiu3yio',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4248,0,660,0,'66.44.139.42',1093057443,1,0,1,0,'880','John, I was able to log in now.  Sorry for the delay. I regristered the other day but never received the confermation or whatever and was not able to log tell now.   as far as the 880 goes I did take it and put it on the pump for a while but it was maxed out to pull it at rated speed lots of black smoke so i took it off after a bit befor I broke somthing or it decided to overheat.  ran about 20 min. deosen\'t start any better and still pops. I\'m thinking of taking the injectors and having them retested. They do have all new tips. The tractor does run ok when warmed up or if you hold the preheat for a long time it will start and run decent untill the manifold cools off. I\'m out of ideas. I moved the wheels in tonight and plan to take it to a plow day tomorrow if the hydrolic level stays up. Likly need to redo the pump next. I was maxing it out with that big disk and sopose I blew out a seal some where.  See how it runs out on the plow tomorrow.  Thanks for taking the time to help me out, Adam Suess','',0,0,'','1h823mrp',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4249,0,488,0,'64.251.141.50',1093057669,1,1,1,0,'Re: Questions','Hi J., my phone number is 573 237 4162 and our email is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:loren@fidnet.com\">loren@fidnet.com</a><!-- e -->. We are located about 80 miles west of St. Louis south of a little town called New Haven.','',0,0,'','tu7zq1m0',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4254,0,12,0,'69.128.201.159',1093146160,1,1,1,0,'Summer Show','Larry, I hope to see you there! I would like to get together with other members and discuss how to improve things. WB.','',0,0,'','m64pd344',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4255,0,96,0,'216.201.29.101',1093185517,1,1,1,0,'Re: 880','Not a problem on the delay. Our county fair was last week and I did not get much done. Righ now you 880 is the most interesting challange on there. Send me a normal e-mail address and a phone number. I would like to talk to you, John','',0,0,'','2ig0gwy2',0,0,'u_660','',0),(4258,0,627,0,'64.12.116.143',1093229170,1,1,1,0,'is it worth it','Your right and I have decided to have the motor pulled again and get it fixed right.  It should be a good strong motor after this.\r\nRalph550','',0,0,'','1vr3ngl6',0,0,'u_636','',0),(4260,0,660,0,'66.44.139.42',1093231560,1,0,1,0,'880 Diesel','John, I hope it was a good fair. Ours ended last sunday. Our local tractor club puts on a display there and helps staff the tractor pull. I haven\'t gotten alot done either. I\'ve been very busy at work.  If you would like to call me #\'s where I can be reached are Work (507) 439-6852 Cell (507) 276-7233 Home (507) 439-6852. My e-mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:ajsuess@hotmail.com\">ajsuess@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->. \r\nI did Take it plowing yesterday with 3-14\"s going about 10-12\" deep heavy soil in 3rd gear was full load had to shift the powerbuster occasionaly. plowed about 4 hrs. still runs bad cold and not quite right warm.  Now I am loosing hydrolic oil and will be taking that apart this week time permitting. Where are you from? I\'m from Hanska, MN south central part of the state.  Thanks, Adam Suess','',0,0,'','3ogy23cc',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4276,0,96,0,'216.201.29.117',1093430370,1,1,1,0,'Re: 880 Diesel','I called your home last night and thelady said I had wrong number','',0,0,'','1tp449wq',0,0,'u_660','',0),(4279,0,662,0,'65.172.185.24',1093472128,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1650 head','SOUNDS LIKE TOMORROW I WILL BE AT WORK BY THEN I WILL BE HOME TOMORROW AROUND SEVEN HERE HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FINE CHAT LATER CORRE','',0,0,'','24adwz3d',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4288,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1093897478,1,1,1,0,'Hey Frank','Hey Frank, \r\nI was just dropping a line to say hi...hadn\'t heard from you in a while.  I see you don\'t post much anymore either.  I wanted to post and see if you were ever gonna put some pictures up in the photo barn for us to take a peep at!  Your album has been viewed a bunch of times, but there isn\'t anything to see! HA HA.  \r\nWhen I went to send you this PM I realized why though.  I didn\'t know you were a Professor/Administrator.  That is great.  I am an Ag teacher in KY at Carlisle Co.  Where are you at?  I just started my job here at the start of the year.  First teaching job...jumped in with both feet and I love it.  Luckily this is Oliver country down here so the kids at least knew what they were when I mentioned them as a hobby.\r\nWell, I will let you go.  I still would like to meet you some day.  I don\'t supposed you would be coming to Paducah for the Purchase Area Antique Tractor Show?  It is the second weekend in Sept. and is usually a pretty good one.  Let me know if you are, and we can meet up.  If you just show up, look for a restored 1066 International  <!-- s:? --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif\" alt=\":?\" title=\"Confused\" /><!-- s:? --> (I know, I know) It is my buddy\'s...I will be around there somewhere.\r\nBye\r\nIan (aka 995Lugmatic)','',0,0,'','207mnqhh',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4289,0,105,0,'',1066225262,1,1,1,1,'old style tin','i had sent you a U2U last month about the old style 88 sheetmetal that you had...\r\nI dont know if you got it or not, but i thougt I would try again.  If you arent using that stuff I sure could.  I have an old style 88 Industrial that has almost none whatsoever.  Let me know if you can help.\r\nIan','',0,0,'','y15mmu6p',0,0,'u_105','',0),(4290,0,105,0,'',1064499557,1,1,1,1,'old style 88 tin','hey, i dont know if you still have this sheetmetal, but if it is sitting around not doing you any good, i have one that needs all of it bad...my sheet metal is totally rusted out...no saving it.  Let me know something....\r\nThank you\r\nIan','',0,0,'','1e6bazl1',0,0,'u_105','',0),(4291,0,105,0,'',1057154546,1,1,1,1,'dealership','how\'s it going?  I noticed that your bio says that your dad used to have a dealership in KY.  May i ask where?  I live in western KY and am just interested.  Thanks.','',0,0,'','26wsvcdr',0,0,'u_105','',0),(4292,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1093897478,1,1,1,0,'Hey Frank','Hey Frank, \r\nI was just dropping a line to say hi...hadn\'t heard from you in a while.  I see you don\'t post much anymore either.  I wanted to post and see if you were ever gonna put some pictures up in the photo barn for us to take a peep at!  Your album has been viewed a bunch of times, but there isn\'t anything to see! HA HA.  \r\nWhen I went to send you this PM I realized why though.  I didn\'t know you were a Professor/Administrator.  That is great.  I am an Ag teacher in KY at Carlisle Co.  Where are you at?  I just started my job here at the start of the year.  First teaching job...jumped in with both feet and I love it.  Luckily this is Oliver country down here so the kids at least knew what they were when I mentioned them as a hobby.\r\nWell, I will let you go.  I still would like to meet you some day.  I don\'t supposed you would be coming to Paducah for the Purchase Area Antique Tractor Show?  It is the second weekend in Sept. and is usually a pretty good one.  Let me know if you are, and we can meet up.  If you just show up, look for a restored 1066 International  <!-- s:? --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif\" alt=\":?\" title=\"Confused\" /><!-- s:? --> (I know, I know) It is my buddy\'s...I will be around there somewhere.\r\nBye\r\nIan (aka 995Lugmatic)','',0,0,'','2jlxmfp7',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4293,0,662,0,'65.172.185.36',1093869096,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1650 head','<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> GOOD MORNING JOHN WELL I HAVE A NEW TRACTOR AFTER ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF IT FINALLY RUNS RIGHT NO BLUE SMOKE ANS STARTS LIKE A DREAM IT TURNED OUT TO BE MUTABLE PROBLEMS FIRST WAS A HEAD WITH VAVLES GROUND WRONG THEN THE INJECTORS I TOOK THEM FOUR TIMES TO DIFFERENT DIESEL SHOPS AND ALWAYS GOT NEW TIPS AND WAS TOLD THEY WERE FINE BUT THIS TIME I TOOK THEM TO AN OLIVER AGCO SHOP IT IS ABOUT TWO HOURS AWAY BUT THE MACHNIC CHECKED THEM AND SHOULD ME A WASHER THAT WAS MISSING IN ALL OF THEM THEY WERE JUST DUMPING FUEL INSTEAD OF A POPING LIKE THEY DO KNOW TRACTOR SEEMS TO HAVE POWER TO SPARE I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THE SHOP THAT DID THE WORK THE FIRST FOUR TIMES SAID THEY TURNED THE INJECTOR PUMP DOWN IS THIS POSSIBLE CAN I CHECK THIS MY SELF OR SHOULD I TAKE IT SOME WHERE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP MAY BE THIS PROBLEM AND ANSWER WILL HELP SOME ONE ELSE THANKS AGAIN CORRE','',0,0,'','17di879u',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4298,0,668,0,'216.170.9.44',1094082253,1,1,1,0,'oliver bearing','John,  I am the guy looking for th oliver bearings,  any help would be appreciated,  The front bearing is a single flange bearing, not the strait type.  .040 mains, \r\nThanks \r\nWayne Clymer','',0,0,'','3i6ud6fl',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4299,0,96,0,'216.201.29.125',1094086743,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver bearing','Where are you located and who have you tried? Clevite or Fedral-Mogul?','',0,0,'','15i5tqqd',0,0,'u_668','',0),(4300,0,448,0,'12.165.173.226',1094085847,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 88 Head','I am trying to get the head numbers from my brothers, I live 1 1/2 hours away. The intake valve is .040 into the head. We know it has to come back to flush. Will replacing the intake valves help/be necessary? How deep should the exhaust valves be into the head from the main surface of the head to the face of the valve? The head thatwas on the tractor is approximately .96\". I should have casting numbers some time in the morning. My work number is 248-477-0040, home number is 517-546-2029.\r\n\r\nThank you for you help.\r\nAllen Pruehs\r\nSE Michigan','',0,0,'','2bsuz98y',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4301,0,80,0,'147.92.2.13',1094094933,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA usergroup','Anna Grimm Membership #144 \r\n\r\nI\'ve been there since the very beginning and plan on being there for a long time to come.\r\n\r\nGreat plan of action Chris!  Maybe I won\'t be afraid to post anymore.  <!-- s8) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif\" alt=\"8)\" title=\"Cool\" /><!-- s8) -->','',0,0,'','3p6th2z5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4302,0,80,0,'147.92.2.13',1094094933,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA usergroup','Anna Grimm Membership #144 \r\n\r\nI\'ve been there since the very beginning and plan on being there for a long time to come.\r\n\r\nGreat plan of action Chris!  Maybe I won\'t be afraid to post anymore.  <!-- s8) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif\" alt=\"8)\" title=\"Cool\" /><!-- s8) -->','',0,0,'','3p6th2z5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4303,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.43',1094095361,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA usergroup','Thanks Anna. I won\'t be telling anybody who is who, but I need to know to keep everybody honest.\r\n\r\nShould be interesting to see how the renegades react to it.','',0,0,'','zmm2lge2',0,0,'u_80','',0),(4304,0,5,0,'216.166.193.198',1094123997,1,1,1,0,'Forum usergroup','Hi, Chris\r\n This is Jim Thurnau in Galesburg, IL. My HPOCA # is 8138. Thanks','',0,0,'','1l6a7acw',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4312,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1094128738,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA user group','Schweizer\r\n\r\n10009136','',0,0,'','3fxr50k1',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4313,0,89,0,'209.150.244.162',1094130406,1,1,1,0,'Name and member #','Karn  Member #10002139','',0,0,'','3p9dizfg',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4314,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1094131735,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA group','Hey Chris, I figured out that if you don\'t click the sign me on automatically box you won\'t be able to post, pm, or anything because the software thinks you are logging on for the first time every time it changes screens.\r\n\r\nAnyway,\r\n\r\n <!-- s:arrow: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_arrow.gif\" alt=\":arrow:\" title=\"Arrow\" /><!-- s:arrow: --> Schweizer\r\n\r\n <!-- s:arrow: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_arrow.gif\" alt=\":arrow:\" title=\"Arrow\" /><!-- s:arrow: --> 10009136','',0,0,'','38def95d',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4318,0,47,0,'12.65.73.24',1094176425,1,1,1,0,'Re:','Chris, \r\nIt might be good to hold off on the bylaws until the usergroup goes into effect. It might also be a good idea to move the current bylaws from the homepage, to the forum under this usergroup, as such things can be dangerous in the public venue, besides, it is nobody\'s business except for members. I\'ll get you those changes in the next couple of days. I did buy a 535 combine, with a 13\' grain head and a 4 row corn head. Do you know how this thing works? I\'ve never used a combine of any type, thresher yes, combine no! There is no manual or anything, so, I am somewhat in the dark! I got another jug of cough syrup, you game??? \r\nTake care!!! \r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1lnabn4x',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4325,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1094183813,1,1,1,0,'user group','Hi Chris, John Hume member # 3527.','',0,0,'','3hazyfou',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4326,0,403,0,'66.187.42.89',1094186783,1,1,1,0,'post  deletion','again I ask that all posts by me be deleted.\r\nThank you,\r\n\r\n\r\nYou can post new topics in this forum\r\nYou can reply to topics in this forum\r\nYou cannot edit your posts in this forum\r\nYou cannot delete your posts in this forum\r\nYou can vote in polls in this forum','',0,0,'','3fin6qzc',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4328,0,668,0,'216.170.9.44',1094144901,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver bearing','I have tried AGCO, NAPA, Hy Capacity, A&amp;I, Endurance Power, Clevite, Howard, Federal, Shortlines, Maibach Implement in Ohio, the machine shop that turned the crank down.  I can get .040 with a strait front bearing in a couple of weeks, but no single flange bearings.  The machine shop says he can probably make these work, but flanged sure would be nice.','',0,0,'','239u6vsg',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4330,0,387,0,'216.68.49.2',1094213425,1,1,1,0,'HCOCA Forum','My member # is 10010595, but I really think this is not a good idea.\r\n\r\nJohn Arnold','',0,0,'','24yo5v10',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4331,0,459,0,'67.250.226.181',1094223958,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Sub Forum Membership','Sletten #3952','',0,0,'','2ummz6m5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4333,0,358,0,'207.201.209.250',1094226869,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA subforum permission','Hi Chris,\r\n\r\nMy name is Myron Vories (aka Myron KY). Member number 10009785. Please add me to the permission list for HPOCA subforum posting/viewing. \r\n\r\nI agree with WrenchBender\'s suggestion of member only posting and allow anyone to read the HPOCA subforum. (I don\'t know if the software will allow this or not.) I do think that a total lock out, of none members, indicates that the club may have something to hide. \r\n\r\nI want to also take time to say how much that I enjoy the magazine and want to thank You and Becky for all your hard work. Also, I\'m most appreciative of your work as admin. I realize that it is probably more of a burden than a joy but I do thank you for all that you do.\r\n\r\nOnce again, Thank You!!\r\nMyron Vories','',0,0,'','34v1zh4n',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4335,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1094241554,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA members only','Great job Chris,\r\n                  Sign me up!!! Danny Tabor  \r\n                                         member # 747\r\n                                           in NorthEast, Md\r\nif you need more let me know!\r\n\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','84umxppc',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4338,0,116,0,'66.71.221.103',1094249064,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Chris,\r\n add me to usergroup, kline #8000','',0,0,'','3b4bea9z',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4339,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1092531259,1,1,1,0,'Re: Pats Removal','I really do not blame you at all.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','n7z1sid3',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4341,0,2,0,'209.153.156.174',1094260527,1,1,1,0,'magizine','the magizine is great[quote][/quote]','',0,0,'','3nxlauyj',0,0,'u_2','',0),(4343,0,35,0,'68.221.136.232',1094261915,1,1,1,0,'Dodson  5251','Dodson  5251','',0,0,'','i8mj4xn8',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4352,0,465,0,'207.95.174.190',1089127046,1,1,1,0,'Your Post','Tied to reply to you by e-mail. Your link below is not working','',0,0,'','1tcrs3ix',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4353,0,374,0,'205.188.116.143',1086565864,1,1,1,0,'ed brandt','Larry...I sincerely appreciate your support and suggestion and if I had a little more time I would sincerely consider it....but I don\'t have it right now....will be there to support anyone who does it now!  Ed <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','taewlq6z',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4354,0,238,0,'64.12.116.143',1094276658,1,1,1,0,'USER GROUP','Coltrin #10010535','',0,0,'','5nll77fv',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4357,0,660,0,'66.44.139.17',1094270807,1,0,1,0,'Re: 880 Diesel','John,  \r\nSorry for not getting back to you after the phone call I\'ve not been home at all. I was at work and we get very poor cell phone reception in Hanska. The single got bad and droped the call. I tried to call you back but you must of been using a phone card or somthing. I have not worked any more on the engine. I have the hyd apart right now and should be able to put it together tomorrow and will start to work on the engine  again. My home # is (507) 439-6852 They may have thought you were a tellemarketer.  Got to go latter Adam Suess','',0,0,'','f2dk7j6s',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4360,0,65,0,'216.183.132.153',1094347208,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Member list','Put me on the exclusive list   Grant Thede #316  Seems like a lot of BS but.......?','',0,0,'','te7i3wv9',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4366,0,387,0,'216.68.49.2',1094213425,1,1,1,0,'HCOCA Forum','My member # is 10010595, but I really think this is not a good idea.\r\n\r\nJohn Arnold','',0,0,'','3csss50q',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4367,0,459,0,'67.250.226.181',1094223958,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Sub Forum Membership','Sletten #3952','',0,0,'','13phhtyf',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4368,0,423,0,'204.110.170.5',1094225190,1,1,1,0,'Forum regisration','Brad Austin\r\nMember # 6572','',0,0,'','307jjs1y',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4375,0,116,0,'66.71.221.103',1094249064,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Chris,\r\n add me to usergroup, kline #8000','',0,0,'','10ybpsxd',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4376,0,465,0,'4.225.95.80',1094254413,1,1,1,0,'hpoca user group','Martin, Keith M.   10010438','',0,0,'','11o6deno',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4377,0,2,0,'209.153.156.174',1094260724,1,1,1,0,'hi','Hi','',0,0,'','uxvh8njf',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4378,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.248',1094351359,1,1,1,1,'Re: hi','Hello Don.\r\n\r\nAre you going to be able to make it over for Plow Day? Hope your health is going well.','',0,0,'','va16bhdy',0,0,'u_2','',0),(4379,0,35,0,'68.221.136.232',1094261915,1,1,1,0,'Dodson  5251','Dodson  5251','',0,0,'','34uvn7af',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4380,0,51,0,'64.12.116.143',1094265218,1,1,1,0,'Register','Name Delbert Lewis                                                                               Member #2463                                                                                    User Name Delbert','',0,0,'','2wuvc0sm',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4382,0,65,0,'216.183.132.153',1094347208,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Member list','Put me on the exclusive list   Grant Thede #316  Seems like a lot of BS but.......?','',0,0,'','2826gwk2',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4383,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.248',1094351929,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA Member list','It\'s alot of BS, especially for me. I have spent the last 2 hours adding people to the group and verifying their memberships. But the HPOCA forum is almost become a side show. Sounds like the other color green collectors like to come and watch the show for free. Plus many members told me that they didn\'t want to post they way things were. Over all, the reaction seems to be about 50/50.\r\n\r\nAre you coming here to plow? We\'re going to clean the barn tomorrow, and start lining the tractors up. Soil moisture is great, and we\'re lightly discing down the stubble so that people won\'t have trouble with the trash. If everybody come that says they are going to, it should be a heck of a show.','',0,0,'','2uegly51',0,0,'u_65','',0),(4385,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1094352321,1,1,1,0,'Re: Summer Show','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\n  If you were at the meeting then you probably saw me! I am the one named John Hume that has decided to stick his neck out and run for  president. \r\n\r\n   I\'m sorry I didn\'t get to meet with you. I\'m sure we\'ll meet up sometime, John.','',0,0,'','1vst0y8x',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4386,0,614,0,'64.12.116.143',1094352486,1,1,1,1,'posting  privalage','Eddie McCullough \r\n\r\nI think  my number is 3241  thats what the renewal  letter says.\r\nI know my dad  had one  at one time that was  closer to 1000 but we  let that slip away.','',0,0,'','2vkxjqas',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4398,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1094390642,1,1,1,0,'Re: Summer Show','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nYes I\'m from IN. My wife said that I should have said that I was aka Wrenchbender, maybe more people would have recognized me.\r\n\r\nThat meeting is the kind of things that drive me crazy!!! First the time was changed and then moved outside. I along with others were sitting in the opera house when the cloggers came out. There was an excellent PA system on the grounds, I guess it would have been too simple to announce the changes. I could not hear in the crowded group, I wish Terry would have handed the Mic to those who had questions so everyone could hear.\r\n\r\nI had no idea I was going to give an on the spot introduction. I\'m not a great public speaker and could have used some notes to get my points across.\r\n\r\nGood to hear from you, John.','',0,0,'','25bx0bh1',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4406,0,465,0,'4.225.88.142',1094393324,1,1,1,0,'election','John,\r\n\r\nSaw on YT you will be running for Pres.  Could you please take the time to write a brief bio, state your reasons for running, and goals for HPOCA.   put them on both websites    Do you want others to run with you as a slate?\r\n\r\n at this time I would support anyone who would run against T.A. \r\n\r\n Down with all bylaw changes!!!!\r\n\r\nKeith Martin \r\n#10438','',0,0,'','3b6of9tf',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4411,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1094437904,1,1,1,0,'Thanks for your support!','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nThanks for your post on YT. It looks as if the members are just looking for someone to give them good honest answers. I will try and do that to the best of my ability. I will have a profile and list of my goals and plans in the Nov/Dec issue of the HPOC magazine. The other candidates will have their\'s also. The ballot for the election will also be in that issue.\r\n\r\nI probably will post something here also, but haven\'t decided if and when.\r\n\r\nThanks again, John Hume.','',0,0,'','2shx5orx',0,0,'u_188','',0),(4412,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1094438657,1,1,1,0,'Re: election','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nThanks for your message. Only the office of president and secretary are up for election and they are voted on separately. \r\n\r\nI will have a bio along with the other candidates in the Nov/Dec issue of the HPOC magazine. I can tell you my main reason for running is to try and bring some organization to how things are done along with  information and communication about what is happening with the club.\r\n\r\nThanks again for your interest, John Hume.','',0,0,'','1n6m35n2',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4415,0,188,0,'64.255.108.39',1094439675,1,1,1,0,'Good luck, you are in for a big job','John, \r\nWe need leadership that can rebuild the club and restore trust.  I feel the lack of any answers has done more damage than the firing of Sherry.  I don\'t know the details of that situation so can make no judgment on it.  It looks to me like there are a few people on both sides who would like to see the club fail just to prove their point.   I hope we can restore it to a club we are proud to say we are part of.  I didn\'t want to post my email in the uncontrolled situation over there.   but feel free to contact me if there is anything I can do.   from reading the posts you have made I think you look like a sensible person who can bring the club back together, if anyone  can.  I feel by now there is no way the present leadership can do that.  For a long time I have avoided commenting about the situation because I felt I had nothing beneficial to add.  I have made many friend in the I&amp;I club through the show there and don\'t want to see this situation harm their club.  If you were there I  had the oliver 70 and williams grist mill that was near the corn crib.\r\n\r\nKeith Miller \r\n14594 County Rd 146\r\nGoshen, IN 46526\r\n574-642-4359\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:kamiller@maplenet.net\">kamiller@maplenet.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'','3syxbthi',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4434,0,465,0,'4.225.92.32',1094441055,1,1,1,0,'Re: election','john,\r\n \r\n From your posts I assume you went to the Summer Show. What was discussed? Were any of the Questions of the Renegades brought up? Is the HPOCA going to be the only ongoing source of money of the HPO foundation?\r\n I feel like most, Sherry got a raw deal. What can we do about it now? Nothing, but have the club give her some recognition for a job well done, minimum. She will do better on her own. \r\n\r\n I\'m more worried about the acts of a board that cares to answer to no one?  \r\n Please read my \"letter that will never be published\". I know some of these questions are inflammatory, they were meant to be, Most are serious questions. Like the formation of the board of the HPO. \r\n\r\nThat is my biggest problem with the Mag. It is no longer the club newsletter. It a few articles and Terry\'s propoganda.\r\n\r\nPlease work against the censorship of the forum. I like the Idea of members only, but as Danny Tabor suggests have them sign in under their real name a member#\r\n\r\nDesent is a good thing.','',0,0,'','abhnjyq7',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4448,0,47,0,'12.65.198.116',1094517610,1,1,1,0,'Favorably impressed!!!','Hey Larry,\r\nI am favorably impressed with your last post, which in the environment we are working is refreshing! I also can not respect those who don\'t have enough backbone to earn their own self respect. We can always use good members. There are 2 or 3 of you guys who joined in the last couple of years who remind me very much of myself when I joined. I was a real fireball though, then I started to learn the organization, and the best ways to make improvements. I found that it can be better to work around the edges. I reaped unprecedented benefits for the members the last time I ran for office, though I didn\'t win, it provided opportunity to bring to the table issues of benefit to the members. So, we all can learn something, and I try to do this every day. I just thought I would let you know that I enjoyed your post!\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','n4we3m40',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4449,0,65,0,'216.183.132.178',1094509884,1,1,1,0,'Postings','Why does WAG THE DOG come to mind with the current  line of  topics in HPOCA?  I,m getting a little tired of the non members here and in YT ... all postings should be member only no ficticious names etc. maybe we can get back to the real purpose of the club as posted in the opening part of the web site ,perhaps a direct link that you have to see before going further? Grant','',0,0,'','637zrr4t',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4451,0,96,0,'216.201.29.218',1094517767,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','I just noticed your post. A 283 gas engine out of an 1800, 1750 or 1755 should cause you no grief. In my opinon one of the best gas engines made and if you tune then up for between 75 and 80 horse power they are good on fuel. More details send me a reply. A 1650 engine will also fit. I would go with the later direct injection job.','',0,0,'','2vx7d0w2',0,0,'u_628','',0),(4452,0,47,0,'12.65.198.116',1094518279,1,1,1,0,'Re: Postings','Hey Grant,\r\nThat is what Chris is working on. It will be a usergroup. The HPOCA forum, the discussion forum that deals with the HPOCA will be restricted to HPOCA members in good standing, that means dues paid up and current. A member will need to apply to Chris, with name and member number, he will check to see the membership is current, then add the member to the usergroup, and send a message to the member that their name has been added. Then, the member will be able to access the HPOCA forum. I think this will work for the better, at least it will help keep our business in the association, not out in the street. You should be sure Chris has your member number, so that he can add you to the usergroup.\r\nI will try to go to plowday, are you coming down?\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1dagtdv7',0,0,'u_65','',0),(4458,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.173',1094525729,1,1,1,1,'I need to verify your HPOCA membership','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need to know your last name and membership number (it can be found on the mailing label of you magazine) so I can verify your membership status.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'','13rgd1a5',0,0,'u_674','',0),(4460,0,674,0,'66.90.213.77',1094526493,1,1,1,0,'Re: I need to verify your HPOCA membership','gordon---# 10010457','',0,0,'','2cbky4q0',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4461,0,674,0,'66.90.213.77',1094526493,1,1,1,0,'Re: I need to verify your HPOCA membership','gordon---# 10010457','',0,0,'','2cbky4q0',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4465,0,569,0,'66.72.87.232',1094561930,1,1,1,0,'Forum','Deckler, Harry\r\nMember # 10003606','',0,0,'','3tr9kxev',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4467,0,116,0,'66.71.221.97',1094598552,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Keith,\r\n  Don\'t let Andy rattle your chain to much, that is one argument you will never win. I\'ve learned to just ignore most of what he says.\r\n   Life is to short to get all worked up over him. \r\n                                             Later,\r\n                                                Todd Kline','',0,0,'','2bovcm7y',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4472,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1094609558,1,1,1,0,'You Are Right','Andy is \"educated beyond his intelligence,\" yet he\'s too dumb  to realize it.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','14002coq',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4473,0,116,0,'66.71.221.97',1094598552,1,1,1,0,'Andy','Hey Keith,\r\n  Don\'t let Andy rattle your chain to much, that is one argument you will never win. I\'ve learned to just ignore most of what he says.\r\n   Life is to short to get all worked up over him. \r\n                                             Later,\r\n                                                Todd Kline','',0,0,'','ucv7i26m',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4474,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1094609558,1,1,1,0,'You Are Right','Andy is \"educated beyond his intelligence,\" yet he\'s too dumb  to realize it.\r\n\r\nEd','',0,0,'','1mo183t9',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4476,0,188,0,'64.255.108.39',1094746084,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA member number','Miller  # 6201','',0,0,'','2zfk1r8o',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4480,0,65,0,'216.183.132.159',1094557304,1,1,1,0,'Re: Postings','Not planning on plow day as I am on walking wounded list again! Fell off grain wagon onto left hand [badly bruised] ,forehead [dent in it and gravel] and cut right elbow to bone plus bone chips and more gravel jamed in there. Moving slow right now and not up to 7 hour drive .Plus more rummblings of slowdowns at border! want to go but think not this time Grant','',0,0,'','24a3l10s',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4482,0,259,0,'65.43.7.174',1094743266,1,1,1,0,'IP Addresses','Danny,\r\n  All I can say is WOW!\r\n  Great detective work!\r\n  Anxious to see replies to your message.\r\n\r\nTravis C.\r\nCenter for History','',0,0,'','2nxxk81u',0,0,'u_412','',0),(4485,0,47,0,'12.64.48.31',1094757033,1,1,1,0,'Re: Favorably impressed!!!','Hey Larry,\r\n It is better to know Jim before making an opinion. I don\'t think anyone who is complaining has spend any time to amount to anything with him. That post sounds just like him though. At some time Sherry has drawn first blood with him, and he is not the kind of guy to forget it, or to turn tail on it. I don\'t understand why he would stir things up like that, when it should be forgotten. I have asked Jim why there is so much conflict between him and Sherry, all I got was something about her hurting some of his friends. Jim does tend to take his friends very seriously, even when they don\'t want his help. So, it probably goes way back and real deep. The way I get along with Jim is to try to keep out of politics, deal with tractors. I intend to have a word with President Allen about the matter.\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','3i65tiyo',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4488,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1094765204,1,1,1,0,'hang on','Hey did you see there are 5 people on the forum index.  Maybe to many people to be talking on this forum','',0,0,'','73z9nf3t',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4492,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1094765593,1,1,1,0,'Re: hang on','Yeah, did you check out what Andy did there. Put that B.S. post up to put another thread on top. May need more than that for damage control. Keep me informed!','',0,0,'','hnuoqvd0',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4493,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1094766387,1,1,1,0,'check your email!','danny','',0,0,'','ooftfwlh',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4500,0,628,0,'207.177.83.231',1094784106,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 oil pressure','Hi John , \r\n   Thanks for the reply . I\'m just knocking ideas around in my mind for now and thought I\'d get some more advice from the pro\'s . I\'m still gathering information and I\'m trying to figure which would be the best way to go .  How much would you expect to to pay for a good gas engine ? Also , would the radiator have to be swapped out too ? And do the 3-speed bellhousings bolt to all these engines with no adapters ? Bottom line , if I went this route is the engine all that I need ? Other than cutting my hood up for the exhaust and breather and flushing the fuel tank . \r\n    On a different subject , do all 1755\'s have a belt driven hyd. oil pump in the front to the oil cooler  or was that an option ? I don\'t have one on mine . Thanks for you time , I used my tractor for mulching ( ? ) my overgrown pasture with a 7\' bushhog a couple weeks ago and the engine didn\'t self destruct . The oil pressure dropped to about 20 psi and stayed there at around 1800 - 2000 rpm . If it lasts through one more sickle mowing and raking ( I think it will ) I\'ll get it fixed instead of getting the engine UNLESS it turns out I can swap cheaper . Thanks again , Randy-IA','',0,0,'','4jheolzl',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4503,0,80,0,'147.92.2.13',1094795476,1,1,1,0,'Go Sam!','Why oh why can\'t those renegades understand that they\'re just like high school bullies?!? They can\'t read either. They just read what they want to read. I\'m sooo glad that you spoke up on there, I\'ve been too scared to post for so long because I know, being a girl, I will take everything they slam back at me personally and I\'ll get upset. Therefore, I sit and read and fume and the smoke rolls out of my ears, and then I figure why bother, they won\'t listen to anything anyone says because they like to hear themselves talk. One of them even emailed me the other day asking about Storm Lake because his family once lived here or something and signed it, \"one renegade, eddie\". I believe I will sign my email \"one of many NON-renegades.\" Bravo on the IP explanation, I found that quite hard to believe how he was really able to search for that so thoroughly...\r\n\r\nTake care, and tell Sue and Blake hello!\r\n\r\nAnna','',0,0,'','1cgj4fi3',0,0,'u_3','',0),(4505,0,80,0,'147.92.2.13',1094795476,1,1,1,0,'Go Sam!','Why oh why can\'t those renegades understand that they\'re just like high school bullies?!? They can\'t read either. They just read what they want to read. I\'m sooo glad that you spoke up on there, I\'ve been too scared to post for so long because I know, being a girl, I will take everything they slam back at me personally and I\'ll get upset. Therefore, I sit and read and fume and the smoke rolls out of my ears, and then I figure why bother, they won\'t listen to anything anyone says because they like to hear themselves talk. One of them even emailed me the other day asking about Storm Lake because his family once lived here or something and signed it, \"one renegade, eddie\". I believe I will sign my email \"one of many NON-renegades.\" Bravo on the IP explanation, I found that quite hard to believe how he was really able to search for that so thoroughly...\r\n\r\nTake care, and tell Sue and Blake hello!\r\n\r\nAnna','',0,0,'','1cgj4fi3',0,0,'u_3','',0),(4507,0,3,0,'12.2.142.7',1094852680,1,1,1,0,'Re: Go Sam!','Great to hear from you, Anna.  I don\'t read this forum as often as I should, because I too get fumed.  I replied to these dorks because: 1. I\'m getting tired of letting the forum get taken over by these idiots, and 2. I want to try and rally our troops.\r\n\r\nI had spoke with Jim Kline earlier this summer about starting to fight back a little.  We\'re finally getting around to it.\r\n\r\nAll in all, I think the renegades are a dying breed.  No one said anything at Madison as far as I\'ve heard.  I\'m hoping after the election, when their guy loses, that things will completely die out.\r\n\r\nSee you soon,\r\nSam','',0,0,'','1fg49yzr',0,0,'u_80','',0),(4508,0,3,0,'12.2.142.7',1094852680,1,1,1,0,'Re: Go Sam!','Great to hear from you, Anna.  I don\'t read this forum as often as I should, because I too get fumed.  I replied to these dorks because: 1. I\'m getting tired of letting the forum get taken over by these idiots, and 2. I want to try and rally our troops.\r\n\r\nI had spoke with Jim Kline earlier this summer about starting to fight back a little.  We\'re finally getting around to it.\r\n\r\nAll in all, I think the renegades are a dying breed.  No one said anything at Madison as far as I\'ve heard.  I\'m hoping after the election, when their guy loses, that things will completely die out.\r\n\r\nSee you soon,\r\nSam','',0,0,'','1fg49yzr',0,0,'u_80','',0),(4525,0,142,0,'66.79.85.139',1095038122,1,1,1,0,'access to hpoca forum','Chris,\r\nHow do I get permission to access the HPOCA section on the forum?\r\n                                                                          Dana Allen','',0,0,'','1gsu2ffd',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4526,0,142,0,'66.79.85.139',1095038122,1,1,1,0,'access to hpoca forum','Chris,\r\nHow do I get permission to access the HPOCA section on the forum?\r\n                                                                          Dana Allen','',0,0,'','1gsu2ffd',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4527,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.58',1095038347,1,1,1,1,'Re: access to hpoca forum','I just need to verify that your membership is current.\r\n\r\nWhat is your membership number?','',0,0,'','26o80xtg',0,0,'u_142','',0),(4528,0,356,0,'216.221.104.147',1095041315,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA memper #10007533   Bruhaug','please enter in tge usergroupes in the forum Thanks','',0,0,'','ojie9qqe',0,0,'u_356','',0),(4531,0,465,0,'4.225.93.107',1095043424,1,1,1,0,'out of the loop','Danny,\r\n\r\nI\'m still around. great work.  Tried to call yesterday. I got out of doing yard at work. Been out on the streets the last two weeks. Makin, some real jack again.\r\n Ive gotten so angry at Andy for trying to run down Ed. I\'m ready to find a closet. Same with yeild. Isn\'t it funny how he jumped in out of nowwhere. and the BOD doesn\'t read this forum. yea right.\r\n  Couldn\'t go to these shows, part of goin on the street is working weekends.\r\nI\'m lurking right now. I don\'t know jack about  tracking these posts.\r\n we don\'t need me blabbering about somthing I know nothing about.\r\n Keep up the Great work.\r\nKeith','',0,0,'','1go9y162',0,0,'u_412','',0),(4532,0,163,0,'207.177.76.203',1095078531,1,1,1,0,'membership','<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> Chris and Becky  I enjoyed meeting the both of you in Madison Good luck in the future. Duane Brandt Galva Iowa 712-282- 4378 Membership #10119','',0,0,'','3cfc5wox',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4533,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1095098870,1,1,1,0,'Re: out of the loop','Thanks,\r\n       I\'m sick of these jokers writing crap and not standing behind it.  \r\nI was bush hog mowing with my 77 RC when you called. I never heard the ring or felt the vibration. By the time I saw your call it was way late. You know how it is when you get up at midnight.  ^pm is way late   <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: --> \r\n           I\'ll be glad when my membership runs out here. Damn time drags!\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','1n2277ad',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4534,0,3,0,'12.2.142.7',1095099450,1,1,1,0,'Access','Hey Chris,\r\n\r\nCould you grant me access to the HPOCA forum?  I haven\'t been able to look since yesterday, and the renegades are probably tearing me up by now!!\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nSam\r\nyieldmap','',0,0,'','1jtrjj9f',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4535,0,681,0,'66.6.182.45',1095099961,1,1,1,0,'hpoca forum','day #10003040 join group','',0,0,'','3ofaspnw',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4537,0,683,0,'69.135.123.101',1095104094,1,0,1,0,'forum access','selzer\r\n7987','',0,0,'','oidyfhwq',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4538,0,144,0,'169.207.139.25',1095112424,1,1,1,0,'info to join group','my last name is Esch member #6153','',0,0,'','2rq26xow',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4539,0,98,0,'209.51.206.51',1095117134,1,1,1,0,'forum','Why can\'t I get on the HPOCA forum? My HPOCA #is 689 so I\'ve paid dues for several years. Mike Kirkpatrick','',0,0,'','1jvweaz5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4540,0,163,0,'207.177.76.203',1095078531,1,1,1,0,'membership','<!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> Chris and Becky  I enjoyed meeting the both of you in Madison Good luck in the future. Duane Brandt Galva Iowa 712-282- 4378 Membership #10119','',0,0,'','umjvjlzo',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4541,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.137',1095126221,1,1,1,1,'Re: membership','Duane,\r\n\r\nWe had a good time with everybody at the banquet. Hope to see you at the next function.','',0,0,'','294sgguv',0,0,'u_163','',0),(4542,0,3,0,'12.2.142.7',1095099450,1,1,1,0,'Access','Hey Chris,\r\n\r\nCould you grant me access to the HPOCA forum?  I haven\'t been able to look since yesterday, and the renegades are probably tearing me up by now!!\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nSam\r\nyieldmap','',0,0,'','1wl7xd6t',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4543,0,681,0,'66.6.182.45',1095099961,1,1,1,0,'hpoca forum','day #10003040 join group','',0,0,'','2vco1mxz',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4544,0,374,0,'205.188.116.143',1095103009,1,1,1,0,'forum membership','Chris,I want to be able to see whats going on with HPOCA,however I can\'t find my card or membership number.If you could verify and let me know thanks....Ed Brandt','',0,0,'','1hmsu2y1',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4545,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.137',1095126634,1,1,1,1,'Re: forum membership','Ed,\r\n\r\nYour membership number is 7589. I\'ll add you to the group.','',0,0,'','f0iyb5y4',0,0,'u_374','',0),(4546,0,683,0,'69.135.123.101',1095104094,1,0,1,0,'forum access','selzer\r\n7987','',0,0,'','jlzqaqiq',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4547,0,144,0,'169.207.139.25',1095112424,1,1,1,0,'info to join group','my last name is Esch member #6153','',0,0,'','1h0b62v6',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4548,0,98,0,'209.51.206.51',1095117134,1,1,1,0,'forum','Why can\'t I get on the HPOCA forum? My HPOCA #is 689 so I\'ve paid dues for several years. Mike Kirkpatrick','',0,0,'','1czd6p5a',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4549,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.137',1095127592,1,1,1,1,'Re: forum','Mike, \r\n\r\nThe HPOCA forum is now for HPOCA members only. I need to add your account to the usergroup for you to have access.\r\n\r\nI looked up your membership number and it shows as being expired. You should call McMillen Communications (they handle the memberships) at 1-866-418-5548 to check your account status. Let me know if you have any problems, as McMillen failed to send out renewal forms for a large group of members, but doesn\'t seem to want to own up to it. Tell them you want your old account/membership number as well, or they will assign you a new one.','',0,0,'','13yyacin',0,0,'u_98','',0),(4551,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.137',1095128009,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum permission','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need to know your last name and membership number so I can verify your membership before adding you to the member list.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','1z8868g0',0,0,'u_9','',0),(4554,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.137',1095130019,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nTo add you to the HPOCA members group, I need to know your last name and membership number so I can verify your membership.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'','10mn6g1b',0,0,'u_672','',0),(4559,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1095174682,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA Forum','Hey Chris, \r\nAm I going to have to wait until the next magazine to be able to look at the forum....because I dont know my number.  Will the publishing place be able to give it to me?  Or can you?  I realize that this is the whole reason we are doing this, but I dont have one of the sleeves that my magazine came in, and I dont know if I can wait until the next one <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: --> \r\nThanks, \r\nIan Hart\r\nPaducah, KY 42001\r\n\r\nAKA 995Lugmatic\r\n\r\nP.S.  I just moved...what is the quickest way to get my address changed?','',0,0,'','3m9lu0z8',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4560,0,518,0,'66.60.209.136',1095194569,1,1,1,0,'member #','Marth\r\n#100007585','',0,0,'','2mbjp36r',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4563,0,39,0,'208.210.151.196',1095206634,1,1,1,0,'HOPCA Form','Larson\r\n10009474','',0,0,'','os6q6wqb',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4565,0,241,0,'4.224.138.163',1095210271,1,1,1,0,'access to forum','member # 87','',0,0,'','235vptyu',0,0,'u_241','',0),(4566,0,688,0,'216.114.96.97',1095215228,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Hello Chis,\r\n I think my membership number is 4815. Just wanted to be loged in on the website to catch up on the so called news.\r\nThanks\r\nMark\r\n\r\nI am also working on the ad for the next issue. I will hopefully have something to you in a week or so. 1 full page like always.\r\nThanks again\r\nMark\r\n <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: -->','',0,0,'','2gnib44j',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4567,0,647,0,'64.12.116.143',1095219255,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Chris,\r\n\r\nNeed the secret hand shake for the HPOCA forum.\r\n\r\nInfo is -\r\n\r\nElmer Knapper\r\n7873\r\n\r\nThx\r\n\r\nBy the way I know you didn\'t propose this, but I think the club will scare people off by restricting access.','',0,0,'','3unn3rvv',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4571,0,692,0,'216.158.74.148',1095266438,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Kline  #129','',0,0,'','2czngl0o',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4572,0,484,0,'68.115.175.131',1095276573,1,1,1,0,'into forum','Kevin Franklin Member #4846','',0,0,'','1sgp8o6g',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4574,0,15,0,'165.121.238.186',1095282167,1,1,1,0,'Join HPOCA Forum','Tew 5984','',0,0,'','17elcyga',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4575,0,523,0,'198.70.80.96',1095284966,1,1,1,0,'Membership','Hello my name is Justin Brandt.  I joined the HOPCA today and was wondering if there was a way to get into the HOPCA forum without yet having my account number yet, or if there was a way to get my account number before the 4-6 week waiting period to get my mag.  Anything you could do would be a great help.\r\n\r\nThank you. \r\n          Justin Brandt','',0,0,'','2mauczr4',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4579,0,672,0,'63.145.42.57',1095170747,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','last name: dennis #7736','',0,0,'','2909uc5p',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4580,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1095174682,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA Forum','Hey Chris, \r\nAm I going to have to wait until the next magazine to be able to look at the forum....because I dont know my number.  Will the publishing place be able to give it to me?  Or can you?  I realize that this is the whole reason we are doing this, but I dont have one of the sleeves that my magazine came in, and I dont know if I can wait until the next one <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: --> \r\nThanks, \r\nIan Hart\r\nPaducah, KY 42001\r\n\r\nAKA 995Lugmatic\r\n\r\nP.S.  I just moved...what is the quickest way to get my address changed?','',0,0,'','2etsr3e2',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4581,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095296016,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA Forum','Ian,\r\n\r\nI remember that you joined just this year, so I\'ll add you in.  \r\n\r\nYou can change your mailing address by calling 1-866-418-5548\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','2ydvicrn',0,0,'u_105','',0),(4582,0,518,0,'66.60.209.136',1095194569,1,1,1,0,'member #','Marth\r\n#100007585','',0,0,'','p9db6lu3',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4583,0,144,0,'169.207.139.132',1095198380,1,1,1,0,'membership #','Chris, My name is Randy Esch, back when this club started I was member #387 then in the mid 90\'s I  let my membership slide for a year and I joined again. now  my number is 6153 is there any way of getting my old number back? or what happens to them numbers? thank you, Randy','',0,0,'','3t7yqlez',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4584,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095296350,1,1,1,1,'Re: membership #','Randy,\r\n\r\nI checked and your old number was removed from the system some time back, so McMillen probably won\'t give it back to you. You could try calling them, but they don\'t seem to understand why these numbers are important to us.\r\n\r\nLet me know what you find out','',0,0,'','tbced1yt',0,0,'u_144','',0),(4585,0,39,0,'208.210.151.196',1095206634,1,1,1,0,'HOPCA Form','Larson\r\n10009474','',0,0,'','162ajiqh',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4586,0,39,0,'208.210.151.196',1095207086,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Larson\r\n10009474','',0,0,'','38ninpvp',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4587,0,688,0,'216.114.96.97',1095215228,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Hello Chis,\r\n I think my membership number is 4815. Just wanted to be loged in on the website to catch up on the so called news.\r\nThanks\r\nMark\r\n\r\nI am also working on the ad for the next issue. I will hopefully have something to you in a week or so. 1 full page like always.\r\nThanks again\r\nMark\r\n <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: -->','',0,0,'','3trazjyz',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4588,0,647,0,'64.12.116.143',1095219255,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Chris,\r\n\r\nNeed the secret hand shake for the HPOCA forum.\r\n\r\nInfo is -\r\n\r\nElmer Knapper\r\n7873\r\n\r\nThx\r\n\r\nBy the way I know you didn\'t propose this, but I think the club will scare people off by restricting access.','',0,0,'','2c6h4sp0',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4589,0,691,0,'65.122.208.5',1095263233,1,1,1,0,'Gerber 10003628','GERBER 10003628  Please allow me in the members only forum.','',0,0,'','3euaso9c',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4590,0,88,0,'4.155.81.216',1095263235,1,1,1,0,'Renewed my membership','I just renewed my membership. Name: Doug Grandy. Membership #3614,\r\nSo what do I need to do now to view the members only forum?','',0,0,'','9nzhj00m',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4591,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095296841,1,1,1,1,'Re: Renewed my membership','I\'ll go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt. I\'m adding you in now.','',0,0,'','3rrszg0e',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4592,0,692,0,'216.158.74.148',1095266438,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Kline  #129','',0,0,'','98nlq4hx',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4593,0,484,0,'68.115.175.131',1095276573,1,1,1,0,'into forum','Kevin Franklin Member #4846','',0,0,'','7c072h1i',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4595,0,15,0,'165.121.238.186',1095282167,1,1,1,0,'Join HPOCA Forum','Tew 5984','',0,0,'','6qkr7kcg',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4597,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095297173,1,1,1,1,'Re: Join HPOCA Forum','According to my records, your membership is 2295, not 5984.\r\n\r\nI\'ll add you to the group.','',0,0,'','2sssds45',0,0,'u_15','',0),(4598,0,88,0,'4.155.81.254',1095297108,1,1,1,0,'Re: Renewed my membership','What does benefit of the doubt mean? A a paid member am I not entitled to view the forum as any other member would be?','',0,0,'','2iu0x46x',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4599,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095297327,1,1,1,1,'Re: Renewed my membership','Benefit of the doubt means that when I check the online list through McMillen\'s, it shows you are still expired. But they probably haven\'t processed your renewal yet. So you might be trying to pull one over on me, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.','',0,0,'','3o1splal',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4600,0,523,0,'198.70.80.96',1095284966,1,1,1,0,'Membership','Hello my name is Justin Brandt.  I joined the HOPCA today and was wondering if there was a way to get into the HOPCA forum without yet having my account number yet, or if there was a way to get my account number before the 4-6 week waiting period to get my mag.  Anything you could do would be a great help.\r\n\r\nThank you. \r\n          Justin Brandt','',0,0,'','x1kl8pmk',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4601,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095297497,1,1,1,1,'Re: Membership','Justin,\r\n\r\nCall McMillen\'s at 1-866-418-5548 and ask them for your account number. It will be 100xxxxx. If you mailed it in it will take about 2 weeks for them to process it.\r\n\r\nLet me know if I can be of any more help','',0,0,'','1sds0rcs',0,0,'u_523','',0),(4602,0,39,0,'208.210.151.204',1095288998,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Larson\r\n10009474\r\n <!-- s:evil: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif\" alt=\":evil:\" title=\"Evil or Very Mad\" /><!-- s:evil: -->','',0,0,'','1eymg2ze',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4603,0,39,0,'208.210.151.204',1095289290,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA','Larson\r\n10009474','',0,0,'','1uws3j5g',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4604,0,39,0,'208.210.151.204',1095290198,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Larson\r\nMembership # 10009474\r\n\r\nWhere is the join the group button?','',0,0,'','n6lytowo',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4607,0,88,0,'4.155.81.254',1095298059,1,1,1,0,'Re: Renewed my membership','FYI, I did in fact renew and had some trouble doing so. Doing it thru the HPOCA site didn\'t work. I had to e-mail McMillens directly to get it straightened out. I can forward the e-mail sent to me by Bambi Mc Millen.\r\nShe advised me that there was a problem with the site, but it was now corrected, and she told me to submit my renewal once again, I did that this morning. I really don\'t have time to try to \"pull something\" on you by not being honest about my renewing. \r\n\r\n                                     Doug','',0,0,'','2bkltcfs',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4608,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095299043,1,1,1,1,'Re: Renewed my membership','Doug,\r\n\r\nSorry if I offended you, I am just trying to be as fair as I can.\r\n\r\nI would appreciate it if you could forward the email from Bambi to me. We have been having some issues with McMillen\'s, and are trying to get them sorted out.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','2cxqpplp',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4609,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1095299434,1,1,1,0,'Sign me up','Tabor  9109','',0,0,'','34pi3ce0',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4611,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095299478,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forums','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need your username and membership number to verify you membership status before I can add you to the HPOCA group.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','2hl5xtgj',0,0,'u_112','',0),(4612,0,464,0,'24.154.83.149',1095299434,1,1,1,0,'Sign me up','Tabor  9109','',0,0,'','3id5rpll',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4613,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095299752,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need your username and membership number to verify you membership status before I can add you to the HPOCA group.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','23d2j93f',0,0,'u_687','',0),(4616,0,88,0,'4.155.81.254',1095300574,1,1,1,0,'Re: Renewed my membership','I just forwarded the e-mail to you.\r\n\r\nI was quite surprised that McMillens site doesn\'t list HPOCA as one of the publications. \r\n\r\n                     Doug','',0,0,'','1odrx4zh',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4617,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095300672,1,1,1,1,'Re: Renewed my membership','Thanks!!!','',0,0,'','46letk7d',0,0,'u_88','',0),(4618,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.136',1095300681,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA Forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need your username and membership number to verify you membership status before I can add you to the HPOCA group.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','2opdwbva',0,0,'u_678','',0),(4623,0,678,0,'207.90.111.66',1095335094,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA Forum','username: steve paul\r\n\r\nmembership # 10005301','',0,0,'','302lo1gv',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4625,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1095352516,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA Forum','Thank you Chris.\r\n\r\nIan','',0,0,'','2g3c62yq',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4626,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1095355292,1,1,1,0,'Promotion and Publicity','Hi Marc,\r\n\r\n My name is John Hume. I believe that Terry Allen had mentioned your name as possible Promotion and Publicity chairman at the summer show in Madison. Is that correct?\r\n\r\n If so, would you share any ideas that have for the future of our club? I feel this is an important position that needs to be filled. \r\n\r\n Thank you for your time and hope to hear from you. John.','',0,0,'','dusgnygh',0,0,'u_459','',0),(4630,0,695,0,'152.163.100.196',1095381025,1,1,1,1,'Test','This is a test','',0,0,'','h1nq2riv',0,0,'u_695','',0),(4631,0,700,0,'209.173.162.237',1095455203,1,1,1,0,'membership registration for forum','My last name is Immell.\r\n\r\nMy membership number is 669.\r\n\r\nPlease verify this information and complete registration ASAP.\r\n\r\nThank you!','',0,0,'','15yxycru',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4632,0,678,0,'207.90.111.66',1095335094,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA Forum','username: steve paul\r\n\r\nmembership # 10005301','',0,0,'','270d64m3',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4633,0,105,0,'205.204.242.22',1095352516,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA Forum','Thank you Chris.\r\n\r\nIan','',0,0,'','2xgt133d',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4634,0,523,0,'198.70.80.96',1095360226,1,1,1,0,'Re: Membership','I tried calling that number and they told me that it would take to weeks for them to get my information even though I did it on line.  Is there any way  I can get the forum opened up to me with out that number? Or am I just out of luck\r\n\r\nJustin','',0,0,'','2dyjuual',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4635,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.232',1095474529,1,1,1,1,'Re: Membership','Justin,\r\n\r\nI am going to go ahead and let you in.\r\n\r\nPlease don\'t make me look like a fool for doing it. <!-- s:) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" /><!-- s:) -->\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'','3fmbnvd2',0,0,'u_523','',0),(4636,0,700,0,'209.173.162.237',1095455203,1,1,1,0,'membership registration for forum','My last name is Immell.\r\n\r\nMy membership number is 669.\r\n\r\nPlease verify this information and complete registration ASAP.\r\n\r\nThank you!','',0,0,'','18v14ght',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4637,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.232',1095476753,1,1,1,1,'Your candidate profile','John,\r\n\r\nJust thought I\'d let you know that I liked your profile, it gets right to the point. I\'d also like to let you know that you ned not worry, it will be in the magazine as you have sent it. If the board, (who\'s not going to see it unless they specifically ask for it) throws a stink, we\'ll let you know what\'s going on.\r\n\r\nI\'ve told others in the past, we answer to the board, but we weren\'t hired so they could try to micro-manage the magazine. We keep the board up to date with what is going on with the magazine, but short of what they submit to us, they are just as surprised as anyone as to what will be in each issue.\r\n\r\nThe thing that is going to regain the trust of this club is a change in leadership.','',0,0,'','18zauu1u',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4649,0,701,0,'216.54.182.189',1095575641,1,1,1,0,'sign up','sign me up to view the forum.  member # is10009490  last name is puestow,  must say you sure didn\'t make it very easy to sign up.','',0,0,'','2e39mwh9',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4650,0,403,0,'66.187.42.80',1095602923,1,1,1,0,'debate','will need john\'s contact and Dean\'s number. When is the election? When is the cutoff for candidate application?','',0,0,'','2mp7u0xg',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4652,0,47,0,'12.65.132.93',1095641814,1,1,1,0,'Hi!!','Hey Uncle Du,\r\n Harley Dawg says Hi!!! He really liked the tractor rides, said he didn\'t want to get down! That 1750 Special is some tractor! I bought a 535 combine from Jack Wold over at Davenport. I guess I\'ll go haul the combine and corn head back next weekend, then pick up the grain head when I go to Moline for the WGT. Been working on the Peterbilt, got it ready. I will go to Georgia later this evening, after I put away the tools, and write up a summary of recommended bylaw changes, then e-mail them to Chris, so he can put them in the mag, and post them. I guess I should get off the net, and get things done. Hope to see you soon!\r\n\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','xgbeipcq',0,0,'u_163','',0),(4653,0,523,0,'198.70.80.96',1095511840,1,1,1,0,'Re: Membership','The last thing i would want to do is make you look like a fool.  Thank you very much.\r\n\r\nJustin Brandt','',0,0,'','ifl20br4',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4654,0,701,0,'216.54.182.189',1095575641,1,1,1,0,'sign up','sign me up to view the forum.  member # is10009490  last name is puestow,  must say you sure didn\'t make it very easy to sign up.','',0,0,'','325p2bg9',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4672,0,459,0,'67.250.226.27',1095655564,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','John:\r\n\r\nSorry I haven\'t got back to you sooner. I didn\'t notice that you had sent me a message till tonight. Here is the text of the email I sent to Terry Allen on August 23.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTerry:\r\n \r\nI see in the latest issue of the HPOCA Collector magazine that you are looking for a new Promotion &amp; Publicity Chairman. If you haven\'t found someone yet, I think I would be interested. \r\n \r\nIn the past I have served as president of the Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors Chapter and I am the current vice president. I also handle the sales &amp; shipment of the Oliver calendar our chapter produces along with the Great Northern Chapter.\r\n \r\nI talked with Jim Kline about a little over a week ago about the Farm Progress Show, and asked him about the Promotion &amp; Publicity Chairman position and he encouraged me to contact you about it. I would need more information about the position before I could make a definite commitment. If you would like to contact me about the position my home phone number is (319) 988-4319. We have our machine on at all times. Just start talking and if we are home we will pick up.\r\n \r\nWe have a 9 year old daughter that went back to school last Thursday, and I am heading up the Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors / HPOCA display at Farm Progress, so I won\'t be able to make it to the National Summer Show later this week. We do plan on attending the HPOCA Winter Get Together at Moline in Feb. and the next summer show at Baraboo, WI.\r\n \r\nLooking forward to hearing from you!\r\n \r\n--Marc Sletten--\r\nVP Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors\r\n \r\n\r\nAt this point I haven\'t heard back from Terry one way or the other. To be perfectly honest, I am a little disappointed. At the Farm Progress Show, I did talk to several people who had been to Madison and they told me that the position hadn\'t been filled yet.\r\n\r\nSome of the other reasons that I think I could do well in the position are as follows. \r\n\r\nThe last 3 times that Farm Progress Show has been in Iowa I have been in-charge of the HPOCA/Cornbelt display. Each time we have done better than the time before.\r\n\r\nLast fall I came up with the idea of having a 1 day 57 mile tractor ride to kick-off the Century Of Tractor Power Show for this past June. My wife Sue &amp; I worked together with our good friend Mary Ann Townsend at the Floyd County Museum. The 3 of us ran the tractor ride with 100 tractors and saved the show from an untimely death. \r\n\r\nIn the past I have written articles &amp; provided pictures for the HPOCA Collector under both Sherry Schaefer &amp; Chris Losey.\r\n\r\nThe way I understand it, a good share of the Promotion &amp; Publicity position\r\nrequires sourcing &amp; ordering all of the Oliver collectibles that the HPOCA sells. That would also involve working closely with Mary Ann Townsend who is currently handling the shipping of the HPOCA items ordered by mail. I live about 45 minutes from Charles City and have worked well with Mary Ann in the past.\r\n\r\nAlso I am on a medical retirement from my job and I do have some extra time I could devote to the position.\r\n\r\nI would like to see the HPOCA get back on track some day soon.  I don\'t want to see this club split into 2 groups like the Minneapolis-Moline people. I don\'t consider myself a Renegade or a Lover of the current board. I consider myself somewhere in between. Like most of us, I have good friends on both sides of the issue. I think that for the good of the club both sides are going to have to give a little.  We all need to get beyond this and get on with our lives. When I joined the HPOCA back in 1996, it was to get to know more people who shared a common interest in Oliver tractors and to share knowledge on the restoration of these fine tractors. This supposed to be fun. About a year ago nationally speaking it ceased being fun. I would like to see a time real soon where we could all get together and forgive and forget and get this club back on track, doing &amp; being what it is supposed to.\r\n\r\nAs far as to who I am going to support for president, I have read with interest most of the postings that you have had on this forum and on YT. I have personally known Terry Allen and Dean Smith for a lot of years. For Dean to be an effective HPOCA president, he would need to step into the 21st century and get an INTERNET connection and email for his computer. At this point I am waiting to see where all 3 of you stand on the issues before us.\r\n\r\nI feel that the Promotion &amp; Publicity position is too important to the well being of the HPOCA to leave it vacant for too much longer.\r\n\r\nI hope I have answered your questions. If there is anything else I can help you with contact me here again or my home email <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:sletten@kca.net\">sletten@kca.net</a><!-- e -->.\r\n\r\nMarc Sletten\r\n#3952','',0,0,'','v5m3q8h3',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4674,0,459,0,'67.250.226.27',1095655564,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','John:\r\n\r\nSorry I haven\'t got back to you sooner. I didn\'t notice that you had sent me a message till tonight. Here is the text of the email I sent to Terry Allen on August 23.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTerry:\r\n \r\nI see in the latest issue of the HPOCA Collector magazine that you are looking for a new Promotion &amp; Publicity Chairman. If you haven\'t found someone yet, I think I would be interested. \r\n \r\nIn the past I have served as president of the Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors Chapter and I am the current vice president. I also handle the sales &amp; shipment of the Oliver calendar our chapter produces along with the Great Northern Chapter.\r\n \r\nI talked with Jim Kline about a little over a week ago about the Farm Progress Show, and asked him about the Promotion &amp; Publicity Chairman position and he encouraged me to contact you about it. I would need more information about the position before I could make a definite commitment. If you would like to contact me about the position my home phone number is (319) 988-4319. We have our machine on at all times. Just start talking and if we are home we will pick up.\r\n \r\nWe have a 9 year old daughter that went back to school last Thursday, and I am heading up the Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors / HPOCA display at Farm Progress, so I won\'t be able to make it to the National Summer Show later this week. We do plan on attending the HPOCA Winter Get Together at Moline in Feb. and the next summer show at Baraboo, WI.\r\n \r\nLooking forward to hearing from you!\r\n \r\n--Marc Sletten--\r\nVP Iowa Cornbelt Oliver Collectors\r\n \r\n\r\nAt this point I haven\'t heard back from Terry one way or the other. To be perfectly honest, I am a little disappointed. At the Farm Progress Show, I did talk to several people who had been to Madison and they told me that the position hadn\'t been filled yet.\r\n\r\nSome of the other reasons that I think I could do well in the position are as follows. \r\n\r\nThe last 3 times that Farm Progress Show has been in Iowa I have been in-charge of the HPOCA/Cornbelt display. Each time we have done better than the time before.\r\n\r\nLast fall I came up with the idea of having a 1 day 57 mile tractor ride to kick-off the Century Of Tractor Power Show for this past June. My wife Sue &amp; I worked together with our good friend Mary Ann Townsend at the Floyd County Museum. The 3 of us ran the tractor ride with 100 tractors and saved the show from an untimely death. \r\n\r\nIn the past I have written articles &amp; provided pictures for the HPOCA Collector under both Sherry Schaefer &amp; Chris Losey.\r\n\r\nThe way I understand it, a good share of the Promotion &amp; Publicity position\r\nrequires sourcing &amp; ordering all of the Oliver collectibles that the HPOCA sells. That would also involve working closely with Mary Ann Townsend who is currently handling the shipping of the HPOCA items ordered by mail. I live about 45 minutes from Charles City and have worked well with Mary Ann in the past.\r\n\r\nAlso I am on a medical retirement from my job and I do have some extra time I could devote to the position.\r\n\r\nI would like to see the HPOCA get back on track some day soon.  I don\'t want to see this club split into 2 groups like the Minneapolis-Moline people. I don\'t consider myself a Renegade or a Lover of the current board. I consider myself somewhere in between. Like most of us, I have good friends on both sides of the issue. I think that for the good of the club both sides are going to have to give a little.  We all need to get beyond this and get on with our lives. When I joined the HPOCA back in 1996, it was to get to know more people who shared a common interest in Oliver tractors and to share knowledge on the restoration of these fine tractors. This supposed to be fun. About a year ago nationally speaking it ceased being fun. I would like to see a time real soon where we could all get together and forgive and forget and get this club back on track, doing &amp; being what it is supposed to.\r\n\r\nAs far as to who I am going to support for president, I have read with interest most of the postings that you have had on this forum and on YT. I have personally known Terry Allen and Dean Smith for a lot of years. For Dean to be an effective HPOCA president, he would need to step into the 21st century and get an INTERNET connection and email for his computer. At this point I am waiting to see where all 3 of you stand on the issues before us.\r\n\r\nI feel that the Promotion &amp; Publicity position is too important to the well being of the HPOCA to leave it vacant for too much longer.\r\n\r\nI hope I have answered your questions. If there is anything else I can help you with contact me here again or my home email <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:sletten@kca.net\">sletten@kca.net</a><!-- e -->.\r\n\r\nMarc Sletten\r\n#3952','',0,0,'','v5m3q8h3',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4675,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1095685194,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','Hi Marc,\r\n\r\nI was glad to get your reply. I too have missed the icon at the top that informs you of new messages. \r\n\r\nI think that the P&amp;P is very important. I am also disappointed that Terry hasn\'t got back with you. It\'s amazing to me the number of new Oliver users/collectors that show up all the time and I\'m sure there are more out there! I\'d like to see the HPOCA be the first source someone would turn to for the information they need. We need ways of attracting these new people. Diversity and new ideas in our membership is a good thing.\r\n\r\nI recognized your name when Terry mentioned it. I went back through my old copies of the magazine to refresh myself on where the club had come from and what had went on in the past. I saw your name on the cyber-report and involvement in other goings on.\r\n\r\nI didn\'t contact you to drum-up any support for myself, I was just curious if you were still interested in the position. Someone on the forum had asked if there was anyone appointed yet or even interested. I thought Terry or someone from the board might respond, but they did not. It sounds like you are up for the job, I hope things work out.\r\n\r\nThanks for your time and reply, John Hume #3527.','',0,0,'','1icch52u',0,0,'u_459','',0),(4679,0,363,0,'68.152.9.254',1095712580,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','Adam Shiflett\r\n\r\nMember # 10008528\r\n\r\nThanks Chris....','',0,0,'','nkehpj5u',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4681,0,403,0,'66.187.34.27',1095719009,1,1,1,0,'Re: debate','[quote=&quot;39LC&quot;:2uom4ts1]Hi,\nYou can contact John Hume (Wrenchbender) by sending him a PM here, He is good at responding.\nDean Smiths\' telephone numbers are; (507) 477-3423 &amp; (507) 477-3017\n\nThe election is mail in, there will be profiles of the canidates in the next issue of the HPOCA magazine, and I believe there will be a ballot enclosed also. \n\nThe bylaw amendments will be voted on at the winter meeting.                \n                                                                            Larry[/quote:2uom4ts1]\r\n\r\nI was told there are three candidates. Do you know who the third is and how to contact him/her?','',0,0,'gA==','2uom4ts1',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4683,0,707,0,'209.143.37.158',1095736125,1,1,1,0,'registration','Kline\r\n10011316','',0,0,'gA==','3twnkqib',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4684,0,363,0,'68.152.9.254',1095712580,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','Adam Shiflett\r\n\r\nMember # 10008528\r\n\r\nThanks Chris....','',0,0,'gA==','hsq1uvbe',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4685,0,707,0,'209.143.37.158',1095736125,1,1,1,0,'registration','Kline\r\n10011316','',0,0,'gA==','39lthtyj',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4691,0,465,0,'4.225.95.193',1095769416,1,1,1,1,'bylaws','John,\r\n\r\n  I\'m tired of Andy twisting my words. Is there going to be votes for each change in the bylaws or are all these changes going to be voted on as if it were just one change?\r\n\r\n If voted on inmass it would do a disservice to the membership. I would vote it down for the simple reason they are not giving the membership credit enough fo know what should be changed and what shouldn\'t.','',0,0,'gA==','3b75nysp',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4692,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1095799976,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nThe changes in the by-laws will be voted on all at one time. You will either vote yes or no on the changes. \r\n\r\nI\'m not sure I like it that way, but thats the way it\'s been done in the past. It would be nice to vote on each change individually. Maybe that\'s something that can be done differently in the future. John Hume.','',0,0,'gA==','nmyyrls2',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4696,0,465,0,'4.225.90.0',1095804806,1,1,1,1,'Re: bylaws','John,\r\n\r\n  The Summary of these changes printed over two pages, the summary!!\r\nIsn\'t that a bit much?  Has this much ever been changed at once before? I think someone went a little over board?  Do you support these changes? I think I need you to come out publicly against these wholesale changes to support you as president.','',0,0,'gA==','2c582v2r',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4697,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1095814575,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Keith,\r\n\r\nWhat points do you find unacceptable? Maybe I could tell you why or why not I would support them. Yes there alot of changes, but some of them are new additions to fill some gaps that were there. John.','',0,0,'gA==','1d70echo',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4707,0,465,0,'4.225.95.91',1095858639,1,1,1,1,'Re: bylaws','John,\r\n\r\n  There are several things in the Changes that bother me. The biggest to jump out at me is the section regarding Disciplenary actions.  Could this have not have been used against  Sherry, Ollie, Landis, and maybe myself.\r\n\r\n One other big thing that jumps out at me. I was not at the summer show as you know. It was mentioned on this website that there was some question as to if there was a quorum, and because of that no votes were taken at the membership meeting. If no votes were taken, how were these changes approved by the membership before being put on the ballot as stated in the bylaws?\r\n\r\n Thats a start I have others, just have a dentist appt. this morning and will work late tonight. Will be glad to debate these issues with you.','',0,0,'gA==','29awnw3s',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4709,0,489,0,'209.7.140.16',1095876298,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','Sorry,\r\nBrad Ward\r\nDavis, IL \r\n#8157','',0,0,'gA==','nmhjvk4g',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4714,0,489,0,'209.7.140.16',1095876298,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','Sorry,\r\nBrad Ward\r\nDavis, IL \r\n#8157','',0,0,'gA==','nmhjvk4g',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4715,0,259,0,'65.43.7.174',1095971577,1,1,1,0,'Magazine','Hi Chris,\r\n   We received the September/October 2004 HPOCA magazine.  Interesting articles!\r\n   However, I had a question about the Oliver 80 diesel on the cover...I know why they had the wide front end, but why are the front axles so far away from the radiator of the tractor?  Was this due to the implements that could be hitched underneath the tractor?  Just wondering and trying to expand my Oliver knowledge.\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nTravis Childs\r\nCenter for History','',0,0,'gA==','3rs5zo59',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4717,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.153',1095993548,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need to know your last name and membership number before I can add you to the HPOCA usergroup.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'gA==','3uk4qobu',0,0,'u_710','',0),(4718,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1096001975,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nSorry I hadn\'t got back to you sooner. I don\'t think that having a disciplinary procedure is a bad thing. I can see where it could have it\'s place. It is one of the items that needs to be defined in the policies and procedures manual. This manual is one of the things on my list to try and get done if elected. \r\n\r\nIf you read the post from cookiemanoliver \"just curious\" you will see an explanation from Andy about whether there was a quorum or not. At the board meeting it was thought that there wasn\'t enough board members present to vote on anything. After doing some looking into Robert\'s rule it was decided that there was a quorum. Since business could be conducted, there was a vote by the members at the general meeting to accept the proposed changes.\r\n\r\nThanks, John.','',0,0,'gA==','377h9ode',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4724,0,465,0,'4.224.207.63',1096071454,1,1,1,1,'Re: bylaws','lets just say I\'ll be working for Dean in the future.','',0,0,'gA==','lzx0vdtl',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4725,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.29',1096081524,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need to know your last name and membership number before I can add you to the HPOCA usergroup.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'gA==','2zsu45bj',0,0,'u_652','',0),(4727,0,710,0,'208.245.213.63',1096117369,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','Chris\r\nlast name Scherbring\r\nno. 732\r\n thanks Dan','',0,0,'gA==','1ize2fg5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4728,0,710,0,'208.245.213.63',1096117369,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','Chris\r\nlast name Scherbring\r\nno. 732\r\n thanks Dan','',0,0,'gA==','1ize2fg5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4729,0,403,0,'66.187.34.36',1096145495,1,1,1,0,'numbers','Larry.\r\nOf the two numbers you gave for Dean Smith:\r\n\r\nDean Smiths\' telephone numbers are; (507) 477-3423 &amp; (507) 477-3017\r\n\r\nI have not been able to get through. Are these numbers correct?','',0,0,'gA==','2gkcd2o7',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4737,0,704,0,'64.31.72.80',1096201198,0,0,1,0,'register to log in','Hunter\r\n10002205','',0,0,'gA==','7ll5q8ss',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4742,0,265,0,'63.64.15.30',1096211384,1,1,1,0,'american bosch pump seal repair','John I am wanting the info on replacing the throttle shaft seal in the american bosch psb pump on a 570 cockshutt.Kenny','',0,0,'gA==','1ygjo58t',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4743,0,96,0,'216.201.29.151',1096236516,1,1,1,0,'Re: american bosch pump seal repair','Great! Where are you located? I will start to put it together sometime this week. Do you use the tractor to farm with? I am trying to find a better source for the two bearings. Also the shaft will most likely be scored in the bearing area. We used to just punch them. It is a current NLA part unless you find some old diesel shop that has one left. Also there are right handle and left hand shafts. Send me the information to: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->. Send me a phone number too. Is that your only Cockshutt? Did you go to the national show? Do you like the quarterly? John','',0,0,'gA==','1dycog6h',0,0,'u_265','',0),(4746,0,9,0,'205.188.116.65',1096161777,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum permission','Frank Hudson\r\nMember #10003411\r\nIs there also a secret handshake or something now?  I don\'t understand what the HPOCA is trying to hide.  Is there some reason for the secrecy?   It looks like the club has been heading down hill for quite some time now.  Who would want to join a club that operates this way.  Also, how did you get your power over the website and the magazine?  What are you qualifications for the positions.  The magazine is some better, but still has a lot of room for improvement.  The first issue you put out was a waste of paper.','',0,0,'gA==','665igtpi',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4747,0,704,0,'64.31.72.80',1096201198,0,0,1,0,'register to log in','Hunter\r\n10002205','',0,0,'gA==','357m6lpv',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4752,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.56',1096259500,1,1,1,1,'Re: posting','Larry,\r\n\r\nI have been doing some upgrading of the forums, but only yesterday and today. (Sat and Sun)\r\n\r\nThe server was responding poorly a few days ago, maybe that was what was happening. I\'m afraid that is beyond my control though. If you have any more trouble, let me know when you do (exact times help), so I can look into it a little closer.\r\n\r\nI appreciate the kind words. We had a good time in Madison, and it was good meet some of the people on these forums. We sat with Duane Brandt at the banquet. He\'s quite a character. \r\n\r\nTalk to you later','',0,0,'gA==','rw1wlvim',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4756,0,12,0,'69.128.202.146',1096288880,1,1,1,0,'Policies and Procedures Manual','Hi Paul,\r\n\r\nI was wanting to find out about the Policies and Procedures Manual. Andy Blackwood said he thought you had been working on it. If so I wondered how it was coming along? I think it\'s a missing piece that is needed to instruct us on how things are to be done.\r\n\r\nThanks for your time, John Hume.','',0,0,'gA==','2yyxai9o',0,0,'u_241','',0),(4759,0,403,0,'66.187.34.56',1096306083,1,1,1,0,'Re: debate','Thanks. I understood there to be three candidates in addition to the incumbent. I now know the nominations are closed and there are three total.','',0,0,'gA==','1irz5em4',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4762,0,110,0,'64.12.116.143',1096323309,1,1,1,0,'Re:Not doubtin ya one bit Andy','I understand exactly what your saying Andy and im not disputing any of it one way or the other. You dont live 49 years and not learn that it takes TWO TO TANGLE. I also know Ollie, i know how he approaches all this. Its obviously a business to him and like everything and everybody in the world now days, money seems to rule. I also know how Sherry can get under your skin with her stubborness and bullheaded aditude. No doubt i can see how things erroded amoungst them. But that dont change my stance one bit, non of it does, if they(the BOD) had shown some backbone, stood up and told their story(all of it) from the start, everybody, including good freinds like myself would have known were they stood. But nope, they crawled in the grass, are still there and have fucked the mess up tenfold with their insistance of silence. If they had of just layed all the cards on the table and said, this is why, everybody could of made up their minds from there were they stood on the whole issue. Now, more and more people are doubting them, their ability to be forthright with membership and its destroying the club, whether you want to admit it or not. To be perfectly honest with you, i have no doubt all these board people are good folks, honest people and im sure they have their reasons for all this. However, being a person who has always called a spade a spade, i can not nor ever will except their lack of abilty to take the situation by the horns and deal with it like men. I have absolutley no problem with you \r\nAndy, actually i respect you, because you say what you think and beleive in and sign your name to it. Quit often i have wished you were the leader, at least we can agree to disagree, better than dealing with the nameless and faceless  Have a good Day Andy  Bob    PS  Why cant we post anymore on the hpoca forum????','',0,0,'gA==','1102q8ti',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4763,0,110,0,'64.12.116.143',1096326626,1,1,1,0,'One other thing Andy','If you so choose to forward my last message to you onto any or all of the the gentleman who run this club, i have absolutely no problem with them reading how i feel about all this. Absolutely non of this has been taken personally by me and i hold no grudges against anybody over this. However, i hate seeing so much hidden agenda over something that isent really that big of a deal when you sit back and look at it. If she was a bitch who couldnt be controlled, than be a man and say so. If she was a faction of a club that was detremental to the over all health of our assocaition, than say so. If anybody(myself included) dont agree, well than that would be our tough luck now wouldnt it. At least the club would have some credability one way or the other. Later Bob Cook','',0,0,'gA==','qov0uckx',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4771,0,719,0,'24.145.133.153',1096463036,1,1,1,0,'Access to HPOCA Forum','username 500rad\r\n\r\nCoonfare member #8237','',0,0,'gA==','2ghfzv0n',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4772,0,719,0,'24.145.133.153',1096463036,1,1,1,0,'Access to HPOCA Forum','username 500rad\r\n\r\nCoonfare member #8237','',0,0,'gA==','2ghfzv0n',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4777,0,465,0,'4.225.94.114',1096483698,1,1,1,1,'bylaws','Larry,\r\n Got an extension on a letter to the mag.  Is all that you say here correct?\r\n\r\ndo you believe there was not a valid vote on these changes to the bylaws? are there others?\r\nWas there any procedure to check if those voting were actual members? ID check? how many were actually spouses of members not eligible to vote? \r\n This was the case at this past winter get together.\r\n \r\n  I\'m trying to build a case for voting on EACH change to EACH bylaw.\r\n\r\n  votes that were close I remember Terry counting hands.  Thats not proper.\r\n\r\n going to focus on the discipline section','',0,0,'gA==','1td31skx',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4778,0,35,0,'65.4.195.57',1096507879,1,1,1,0,'OC3','Scott,\r\n\r\nI know you are excited about your restoration. I have owned HG\'s OC3\'s and an OC4 dozer. The OC3 is yellow. Most OC3\'s were painted yellow with the exception of a very few of the early models when they switched  from the HG. The highway yellow found at implement stores and agricultural hardware stores works just fine especially if you add hardener. If you want to go first class you can go with PPG Ditzler 81985 or old Caterpillar highway yellow. I hope this helps and if you have other questions let me know.','',0,0,'gA==','1mypztkq',0,0,'u_718','',0),(4780,0,687,0,'66.194.131.130',1096564684,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','OhioOliver\r\nMem# 10010291','',0,0,'gA==','1prfyfyl',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4781,0,687,0,'66.194.131.130',1096564684,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','OhioOliver\r\nMem# 10010291','',0,0,'gA==','1prfyfyl',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4784,0,35,0,'65.4.195.57',1096507879,1,1,1,0,'OC3','Scott,\r\n\r\nI know you are excited about your restoration. I have owned HG\'s OC3\'s and an OC4 dozer. The OC3 is yellow. Most OC3\'s were painted yellow with the exception of a very few of the early models when they switched  from the HG. The highway yellow found at implement stores and agricultural hardware stores works just fine especially if you add hardener. If you want to go first class you can go with PPG Ditzler 81985 or old Caterpillar highway yellow. I hope this helps and if you have other questions let me know.','',0,0,'gA==','1qmkh2o2',0,0,'u_718','',0),(4785,0,718,0,'24.34.39.42',1096657761,1,1,1,0,'Re: OC3','Thanks for the information. I found some Green paint on the push bar on the front today,But none on the machine its self. The push bar was an add on so it might have been off another machine.\r\nWell Thanks again.','',0,0,'gA==','11pwkhzi',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4786,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.202',1096659144,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum','Hello,\r\n\r\nI need to know your last name and HPOCA membership number to grant acces to the HPOCA forum. Please let me know this info and I\'ll add you to the group.\r\n\r\nBy the way, I like your screen name.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'gA==','235mpekx',0,0,'u_720','',0),(4787,0,718,0,'24.34.39.42',1096657761,1,1,1,0,'Re: OC3','Thanks for the information. I found some Green paint on the push bar on the front today,But none on the machine its self. The push bar was an add on so it might have been off another machine.\r\nWell Thanks again.','',0,0,'gA==','3iizdjku',0,0,'u_35','',0),(4788,0,465,0,'4.225.94.114',1096483698,1,1,1,1,'bylaws','Larry,\r\n Got an extension on a letter to the mag.  Is all that you say here correct?\r\n\r\ndo you believe there was not a valid vote on these changes to the bylaws? are there others?\r\nWas there any procedure to check if those voting were actual members? ID check? how many were actually spouses of members not eligible to vote? \r\n This was the case at this past winter get together.\r\n \r\n  I\'m trying to build a case for voting on EACH change to EACH bylaw.\r\n\r\n  votes that were close I remember Terry counting hands.  Thats not proper.\r\n\r\n going to focus on the discipline section','',0,0,'gA==','1mcmufk2',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4789,0,722,0,'12.214.3.141',1096650918,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 70 Piston','John,\r\nI would like to know more information about using Dodge pistons in the Oliver 70.   My main concern is the wrist pin location and wrist pin size.  The bore will be no problem, but the wrist pin info I\'m not sure about.  I have not been able to find anything on the Dodge stroke to see if it will work. \r\n\r\nThe only Dodge I\'ve been able to find with a 3.250 inch bore is an old 230 L-6, but I\'m not sure what years to use?    Also, are they floating or press fit type piston.  The Oliver 70 uses a bushed rod, floating.  You probably already know this. Any help would be great!  Thanks!!\r\n\r\nKenny','',0,0,'gA==','1o4e6ow5',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4790,0,96,0,'216.201.29.45',1096671554,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver 70 Piston','You are looking at the wrong thing. You need to look at piston compression height and it is the same.. I used to work for Dana at the tech center when they had both there brand (Perfect Circle) of after market parts as well as supplying the same parts to NAPA, I am going to help my son this weekend  and do a little carpenter work. Send me a regular  e-mail  address and a phone number  and Iwill get back with you next week. Tell me a good time to call. On Tuesday evenings I teach an adult hydraulic lclas sfor the local JVS, Where are you located? John','',0,0,'gA==','27t3fkr1',0,0,'u_722','',0),(4791,0,465,0,'4.225.88.235',1096673823,1,1,1,1,'Letter?','Larry,\r\n  Just sent a letter to the editor concerning bylaws. Showed a draft to Danny &amp; Ed tabor.  After I sent the finished copy he suggested something along the lines as your post to Andy about a financial report. Think you could write something. I know my first is to long and will be cut up. I don\'t dare write a second.\r\n  Chris has extended the deadline until the 4th. \r\n Not sure about your email any more. send me something.\r\n\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:keithmartin@dragonbbs.com\">keithmartin@dragonbbs.com</a><!-- e -->[/b]','',0,0,'','10xt7d0x',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4794,0,465,0,'4.225.88.235',1096673823,1,1,1,1,'Letter?','Larry,\r\n  Just sent a letter to the editor concerning bylaws. Showed a draft to Danny &amp; Ed tabor.  After I sent the finished copy he suggested something along the lines as your post to Andy about a financial report. Think you could write something. I know my first is to long and will be cut up. I don\'t dare write a second.\r\n  Chris has extended the deadline until the 4th. \r\n Not sure about your email any more. send me something.\r\n\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:keithmartin@dragonbbs.com\">keithmartin@dragonbbs.com</a><!-- e -->[/b]','',0,0,'','10xt7d0x',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4799,0,722,0,'12.214.3.141',1096678711,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver 70 Piston','John,\r\nI took one of the pistons to a local NAPA store.  It is an old store with a lot of older guys with much knowledge.....not like most chain stores.  One of the guys in the machine shop measured the compression height, wrist pin dia. and the bore and called their supplier.  He found a set that would work and said he could have them in by Monday!   For $27/ cyl. He said it is a piston out of an older Dodge (forget what make and model), just like you said.\r\n\r\nThanks for the direction! I never would have thought about doing this if you didn\'t give me the idea.  I guess I need to learn to think outside of the box a little more! BTW, I live in Harvest, Alabama about 20 miles from the Tennessee state line.    My email address is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:whitken1@juno.com\">whitken1@juno.com</a><!-- e --> and my home # is 256-216-5837.  I\'m usually home most evenings.  I work during the day.  \r\n\r\nKenny','',0,0,'','27w6256x',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4802,0,47,0,'12.65.222.184',1096690678,1,1,1,0,'?????','Hey Chris,\r\nWhat is this? Are you actually going to give Keith Martin his own personal soapbox? And after a deadline in which YOU required me to make? And allow a debate of a non-amendable, non-debateable issue? I take great offense to this action!!! Especially, since it involves my committee. If you are attempting to over run the committee, I will consider retracting all recommendations. What you are doing is meddling in the actions of a committee in which you are not a member of, and improper in nature.\r\n \r\nHave a great day!!!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','16k4d7tc',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4804,0,76,0,'67.50.252.70',1096815305,1,1,1,0,'clock','do you have a picture of it?','',0,0,'','3tg3frm0',0,0,'u_673','',0),(4807,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.165',1096855590,1,1,1,1,'Re: ?????','Andy,\r\n\r\nI just extended the deadline, that\'s all. If you had been late, we still would have put the by-laws in the magazine. \r\n\r\nI think that the members should be able to voice their opinions about whether or not the by-laws should pass as presented. That\'s no debate, and it\'s not undermining what you did. It\'s freedom of expression, the same one that you are so fond of.\r\n\r\nWe will be printing the by-laws and summary exactly as you sent it, so we are not meddling.  If you or any other member wants to write a letter saying why we should vote for these by-laws, please send it in right away.','',0,0,'','1bydgon7',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4811,0,76,0,'67.50.252.70',1096815305,1,1,1,0,'clock','do you have a picture of it?','',0,0,'','1c3q5ouy',0,0,'u_673','',0),(4813,0,720,0,'12.40.148.19',1096875381,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum','last name is Byrer number is 4426\r\nthanks Darrel','',0,0,'','t2zhvvqn',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4816,0,627,0,'205.188.116.75',1097027802,1,1,1,0,'line bore','John today I found out that the block and crank didn\'t make it though the operation, and now I need both block and crank. The flywheel was turn .046 this time I don\'t know if it had been turned before or not. And the clutch was and is a button clutch. Now I need to decide if I will spend $3,000.00 or just get a salvage bid. Maybe tomorrow things will look alittle better but today I\'m sick.','',0,0,'','z4eh2xdp',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4817,0,96,0,'216.201.29.94',1097056412,1,1,1,0,'Re: Thrreshing Machine Pulleys','Yes I do. I am busy helping the boys farm so my time to look is a little limited as we do not have electricty in that building. They are not going anywhere.','',0,0,'','3j551x8e',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4823,0,645,0,'67.77.60.156',1097116226,1,1,1,1,'Governor Seal Super 88 Bosch','Mr. Schwiebert,  well the seal is leaking pretty heavy again, so I will likely change it out sometime.  Did you ever post the instructions?  If not, I would sure appreciate a copy of them.  There is no hurry as I only get to work on the tractor an hour a day or so and it may some time before I actually start on it.  \r\n\r\nWere you or are you an Oliver mechanic?  You sure help alot of guys in bringing the old Olivers back to life.  I know many of us really appreciate your efforts.  \r\n\r\nBest Regards!  Ed Kost','',0,0,'','1adazk21',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4824,0,96,0,'216.201.29.109',1097143576,1,1,1,0,'Re: Governor Seal Super 88 Bosch','Send me a U. S. mail address as some of the information will be in print.Yes I worked for an Oliver dealer starting in the fall of 1960 and left in the late summer of 1976. I am in flat Ohio. My employer sold around 50 super 88 tractors. Three were gas, guess what the rest of those ? John','',0,0,'','eij6t0yi',0,0,'u_645','',0),(4830,0,645,0,'67.77.60.156',1097169317,1,1,1,1,'Re: Governor Seal Super 88 Bosch','John,  thanks for the reply.  My mailing address is : \r\nEd Kost\r\n18683 Linwood Rd.\r\nLinwood, KS\r\n66052\r\n\r\nI was a shadetree mechanic as a kid and then a mechanic in the Army for about 7 years from 1968 to 1975, working on both diesels and gas trucks and tanks.  I\'m new to the tractor world, but I\'m sure enjoying it.  These old Olivers remind me of tanks and I feel like I\'m 18 when I\'m out there working on them.  \r\n\r\nI need to get a better shop manual than the IT manual I have.  Do you have any recommendations?  Thanks again and best regards!  Ed','',0,0,'','o6eqshar',0,0,'u_96','',0),(4832,0,76,0,'67.50.252.117',1097200912,1,1,1,0,'no new posts','i agree, we\'re spending too much time squabbling and not enough time promoting olivers','',0,0,'','3r7lql6k',0,0,'u_163','',0),(4833,0,673,0,'69.66.72.194',1096892873,1,1,1,0,'Re: clock','no but give me your phone number and I\'ll call you or I\'ll take a picture of it and send it to you . My phone number is 641-364-6887. I used to work at the Oliver plant in Charles City for 18 years . Thank Yo u Glen','',0,0,'','ll37cx52',0,0,'u_76','',0),(4834,0,76,0,'67.50.252.117',1097201050,1,1,1,0,'Re: clock','please send the pictures \r\nkevin Coers\r\n1104 2300th Ave\r\nChestnut, IL 62518','',0,0,'','1c9e9wtv',0,0,'u_673','',0),(4835,0,40,0,'205.188.116.143',1097236679,1,1,1,0,'By-Laws','Andy:\r\n\r\nI don\'t know if you have talked to Chris or not, but I thought I would let you know that I sent him a letter to the editor about voting for the revised by-laws.\r\n\r\nThe letter expresses my opinion on Article X Section D.  After reading the section and thinking about it in more in depth, I don\'t think that section is necessary in the revision.  Since you can\'t vote on sections of the revision I\'m going to vote against adopting them. \r\n\r\nI just think the section is over the top as far as being necessary for the club.   Even with all the commotion over firing Sherry I don\'t think anyone should have been subject to any sort of discipline either just members or the board.\r\n\r\nJust thought I\'d let you know before the magazine was published.\r\n\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','28ip5zqc',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4836,0,76,0,'67.50.252.117',1097200912,1,1,1,0,'no new posts','i agree, we\'re spending too much time squabbling and not enough time promoting olivers','',0,0,'','1tygonck',0,0,'u_163','',0),(4838,0,40,0,'205.188.116.143',1097236679,1,1,1,0,'By-Laws','Andy:\r\n\r\nI don\'t know if you have talked to Chris or not, but I thought I would let you know that I sent him a letter to the editor about voting for the revised by-laws.\r\n\r\nThe letter expresses my opinion on Article X Section D.  After reading the section and thinking about it in more in depth, I don\'t think that section is necessary in the revision.  Since you can\'t vote on sections of the revision I\'m going to vote against adopting them. \r\n\r\nI just think the section is over the top as far as being necessary for the club.   Even with all the commotion over firing Sherry I don\'t think anyone should have been subject to any sort of discipline either just members or the board.\r\n\r\nJust thought I\'d let you know before the magazine was published.\r\n\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','mxjncs71',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4839,0,76,0,'67.50.252.117',1097201050,1,1,1,0,'Re: clock','please send the pictures \r\nkevin Coers\r\n1104 2300th Ave\r\nChestnut, IL 62518','',0,0,'','1txtqlpm',0,0,'u_673','',0),(4840,0,47,0,'12.65.162.218',1097291265,1,1,1,0,'Re: By-Laws','Hey Bill,\r\nThat is OK, do whatever you feel is right. It would not be appropriate to supercede Roberts without providing the same protection that was provided before. Either way, the ability to protect the corporation is in there, if the proposal fails, the corporation is governed by Roberts, which contain the exact same provisions. I told you about those who perfer the status quo some time ago, I told you they would go to great lengths to maintain the status quo, and some are doing exactly that, they like control, and they were part of the members who put this association together. They don\'t like it when someone messes with the control factor, if you haven\'t noticed, at least half of the board are charter members. And yeah, someone wants to play games, I think I know who, but not certain. Lets put it this way, you, or anyone can buy as many memberships as you wish, under fictious names, going to different addresses. It is not hard to be unknown, if a person wants to. There are some on the website that nobody I know have ever seen, always some excuse for not showing. Sometimes I wonder! Hey, tell Du I said Hi!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','2gs1f2tr',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4841,0,47,0,'12.65.162.218',1097292662,1,1,1,0,'Re: ?????','Hey Chris,\r\nWhen you open a one sided debate outside of committee it is meddling. It is not appropriate for me as chairman to advocate members voting one way or another, all I can do is come to a workable solution, and explain this to the members, it is each members decision from there. Since you have taken it upon yourself to influence this process, then I would be entitled to a rebuttal. In order to do this, I must know what exactly I am rebutting. You will need to e-mail me what I am to rebut, promptly. I feel this whole thing is unfair, and unjust to those members who do not use the internet. How exactly are they to know what their views are until they get their magazine? Are you going to extend the deadline on the ballot to allow them to express their views in the next magazine?\r\nWhich brings me to the next point, the website was supposed to increase membership, and merchandise sales, that was the selling point. It has failed to achieve these goals. What it has done is create a caldron of conflict, and it is now obvious it has created an environment where the interests of the members who use it get special treatment over those who do not. This is unfair to the majority of the members, which by the way, never use this service. Since this unfairness has been cultivated, and exists, no corrective measures seem to work, I will be joining those who support elimination of this website.\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','2i9ymjl8',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4844,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.147',1097294422,1,1,1,1,'Re: ?????','Andy,\r\n\r\nWe have thought seriously about what you have said.\r\n\r\nWe will not print any letters about any subject that will be on the ballot. I fully intended to give you, the by-laws chairperson, the chance to rebut any concerns about the by-laws, as I felt that would be your responsibility. But that doesn\'t matter now.\r\n\r\nAs to the web site, please show me your facts and figures to back up your claim that the web site doesn\'t promote the club and increase membership. If you want to shut it down, that\'s your perogative. \r\n\r\nYou said in the past that none of this was personal, and that afterwards we can all be friends and have a drink together. By your reaction to this whole thing, I would say you have taken it very personally. I guess we won\'t be drinking together anymore.... <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,0,'','45syvpf4',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4852,0,47,0,'12.65.162.218',1097296756,1,1,1,0,'Re: ?????','Hey Chris,\r\nThat is a fair solution, it treats all equally, which was all I wanted to begin with. Whether you realize it or not, this is not personal, but is an issue of the santity of the committee. If in fact committee proceedings were made available to open debate, there would be no purpose for committees. As committee chairman, it is my duty to protect the santity if the committee, and due to the nature of the committee, to take into account the effect to the membership as a whole. Being a creature of duty, I must discharge my duties to the best of my ability.\r\n As I recall, 2 years ago, active membership was at about 5,975, now it is somewhere in the range of 6,200. That is not the increase I would expect, what I would expect is to see something in the range of 500 per year. The problem I see with the website is there is too much conflict, and this is created by the few, which is detrimental to the many. I sometimes visit the CAT collectors website, they don\'t have this problem, why? Perhaps you may wish to visit it, ACMOC.org, you might contact their webmaster, maybe they can tell you how they deal with this problem. All you will find on their website is collectors dealing with their Caterpillars, the parts, and problems associated with the machines.\r\nTake care!!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1zef06fk',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4857,0,12,0,'69.128.205.238',1097358805,1,1,1,0,'Andy has bent my ear also!','Keith,\r\n\r\nI also got a message from Andy telling me that because of all the hard work he has done he doesn\'t want the changes challenged! I am not in favor of the proposed changes either. Maybe not for the same reason as you. \r\n\r\nThat\'s the problem with this organization- \"Let\'s shove it through and not let anyone have a say on the matter!\" It\'s time to let things be open and listen to EVERYONE\'S opinions. John.','',0,0,'','3u7ep51i',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4858,0,12,0,'69.128.205.238',1097363132,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey John,','Hey Andy, \r\n\r\nI\'ll tell you why it\'s troubling... once again someone has kept another\'s opinion from being heard! I shouldn\'t be surprised, That seems to be the MO of this group. \r\n\r\nWhat I thought was only a lack of communication is really starting to look like a culture of secrecy and disrespect for the members! John.','',0,0,'','31jlu5s2',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4862,0,465,0,'4.225.94.147',1097364580,1,1,1,1,'Re: Andy has bent my ear also!','It\'s public now.','',0,0,'','3b0nkey1',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4863,0,12,0,'69.128.205.238',1097365914,1,1,1,0,'Disipline!','Keith, \r\n\r\nIt was my fault for not taking the time to get a copy of Robert\'s rules and studying up on the disciplinary procedure. I would have understood better your concern about the by-law. Thank you for pointing out the possibilities in your letter. \r\n\r\nWe have major problems in this organization. I hope that some way we can get a foot-hold in turning things around. John.','',0,0,'','24pcjytj',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4866,0,465,0,'4.225.94.147',1097364776,1,1,1,1,'whinner','Kiss my ass','',0,0,'','2pfydd28',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4872,0,465,0,'4.225.5.188',1097371041,1,1,1,1,'Re: Disipline!','John, \r\n\r\n now you see. and they have chris between a rock and a hard spot and he can\'t print it. \r\n  Andy wants to be behind the sciene leader and run things with his bylaws. He wants me out.  I don\'t know which post but can find where he threatened me.\r\n  Unlike most I will stand for what I believe.  If you REALLY SEE what is going on make it public and I\'ll stand with you if not get on the board to kick me out.','',0,0,'','domg4zrb',0,0,'u_12','',0),(4873,0,12,0,'69.128.205.238',1097374327,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey John,','Andy,\r\n\r\nI completely agree...ALL members should have complete and timely access to information. THAT\'S the problem! The members who aren\'t privy to the Internet information should have more than a few days to consider the changes. The information should be available far enough in advance that EVERYONE has time to form an opinion and voice it. If it was only a matter of \"housekeeping\" on the by-laws that is one thing. When major changes and additions are made, people need time to discuss and think things through. \r\n\r\nThings are too far along to change the time schedule now, but squelching opinions is just not right. If someone reads a letter to the editor that voices concern about the changes, they are more likely to read the changes more closely. \r\n\r\nThe disrespect issue is separate from the by-laws. It involves no responses from club officers and lack of responsibility to their duties. John.','',0,0,'','3rzzykev',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4879,0,403,0,'66.187.42.64',1097414960,1,1,1,0,'locked posts in unlocked forum','Any particular reason there is a locked thread in the misc forum area? If someone is trying to post a letter from the president, it is not viewable there.','',0,0,'','2paw4wum',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4881,0,5,0,'216.166.192.2',1097320403,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA back issue','Becky or Chris,\r\n Do you still have any of the Feb. 1991 (Vol. 1, issue IV) magazines? I have an 1800A gas that has been \"farmerized\" but still runs good.  \r\n                                                         Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','4gn9hxem',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4882,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.172',1097454482,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA back issue','Jim,\r\n\r\nWe do have some of those left. Let me know how many you want and I\'ll set them aside.\r\n\r\n\r\nChris','',0,0,'','1hi6qgw9',0,0,'u_5','',0),(4883,0,465,0,'4.225.88.221',1097372555,1,1,1,1,'Letter?','I\'ts your Mag. Your the editor. you  think I did\'t put time in to write Two of these letters.  I know what is right and wrong. tell me where anything in that letter is not truthful. anything. \r\n   what andy is doing is wrong. its\'s as good as stealing an election. he  doesn\'t want the truth to come out.\r\n\r\n  You know I\'m right on this and you need to print it for the good of the club.\r\n If you can\'t just take my name off the list I don\'t need this anymore.','',0,0,'','2vtgm1wu',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4884,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.172',1097454914,1,1,1,1,'Re: Letter?','Keith,\r\n\r\nI agree with you 100%. Andy is trying to control the outcome of the election.\r\n\r\nBy the way, it\'s everybodys magazine, that\'s why I was going to print your letter. \r\n\r\nI\'m beginning to like that removal of members thing, and I think Andy should be the first one to feel its effects.','',0,0,'','1qy42uj5',0,0,'u_465','',0),(4907,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1097469149,1,1,1,0,'Re:Hey Andy','What goes on between you and Chris is non of my business. You guys will have to work that out. As for equal information for all members, ever single member has the abiltiy to have the internet, just as every single member has the choice of reading all the magazine or just the articles they choose. As for growing balls, you could grow them right to your feet, aint gonna do ya one ounce of good if only 2 or 3 board members show up at any givin event or meeting. We are almost into 2005 and Roberts Rule Of Order is never gonna change the fact that any successful organization is gonna be partcially at the very least run through internet channels and its only gonna grow as time goes on. Shut this site down and the hpoca will be toast in 2 years   Have a nice day Bob','',0,0,'','1yq5889h',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4909,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1097473228,1,1,1,0,'Re:','That is exactly why all the proposed changes should be put in the magazine, so that EVERYLAST  memeber has a equal chance to veiw the changes. All changes should be acompanyied with the existing by law for comparision. That is what this is all about Andy. It dont have a darn thing to do with Sherry, #3, or any other issue other than this secrecy theme which seems to rule the roast in this organization. ANYTHING, I REPEAT ANYTHING that is to be voted on should be TOTALLY outlined in the only complete method of communication this club has and that is the magazine. Anything less and this organization is never gonna rebuild its credabilty. This hpoca forum is the polictal room of the organization. People who dont want to deal with the politics need not come in here or sign up. Its their choice. I find it ludicrious to think that people dont want to be involved because of the conflicts. They now have the choice of stayin clear of them if they so choose. However, some of us choose to be involved mostly because it has become very apparent that in recent descions, personnel agendas have been very prominent in the decsion making process. Until the current BOD becomes more member freindly and cummunicates all decision making honestly with membership, conflicts are going to do nothing but increase. The remedy for all the conflicts is very simple Andy, open up and communicate with EVERYBODY equally on this web site and in the magazine, and in time i know for a fact, it would all go away. Failure to do that, become honest and forthright with membership or even go to the extreme of closing down the web site will eventually destroy the whole organization.   Have a nice day Andy  Bob','',0,0,'','3v621xay',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4937,0,12,0,'69.128.205.238',1097499207,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey John,','Hi Andy,\r\n\r\nI\'m not blaming you for the time schedule. I don\'t think it was appropriate for you to stop the publishing of letters. If those letters had given you high praise for the by-law changes would that have also had an effect on member\'s votes? How did you know the content of Keith M\'s letter?\r\n\r\nThe more I consider changing the by-laws the more I\'m opposed to it. My thought is the by-laws should never be changed unless there is major reorganization of how the club is set up. The policies &amp; procedures manual should address the housekeeping and more detailed points of how things are done.\r\n\r\nThat brings me to the disrespect issue. You told me that Paul Rode has been or was working on the policies manual. I called him on the phone. He did not return my call. I PMed him here on the website, he did not open my message. I know of no reason for him to not respond to me other than he assumes that I\'m \"one of those renegades\" and has been told not to respond or doesn\'t feel the need.\r\n\r\nWe need harmony and openness for things to work. That\'s not something I\'m seeing much of!\r\n\r\nTake care, John.','',0,0,'','28ffqaji',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4941,0,729,0,'208.28.113.81',1097507372,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','Hi \r\nThis is Debbie King.   My membership is under Andy King but I do not have our number.  \r\nThanks\r\nDebbie Meeker-King\r\n2950 50th Ave\r\nNorth Henderson, IL 61466','',0,0,'','w8na3jt9',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4943,0,5,0,'216.166.193.199',1097495779,1,1,1,0,'magazine back issue','Please save me one of the Vol. I, issue 4 mags with the 1800A article. I will try to look through the list to see what else strikes my fancy. Thanks. Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','mtlh43ji',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4944,0,465,0,'4.224.207.58',1097505288,1,1,1,1,'Re: Letter?','Chris, \r\n  \r\n If this goes Andy\'s way them They won\'t have to kick me out. I wouldn\'t want to continue.','',0,0,'','k307j5ng',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4945,0,729,0,'208.28.113.81',1097507372,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','Hi \r\nThis is Debbie King.   My membership is under Andy King but I do not have our number.  \r\nThanks\r\nDebbie Meeker-King\r\n2950 50th Ave\r\nNorth Henderson, IL 61466','',0,0,'','q9bd0rhw',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4948,0,674,0,'66.90.218.67',1097622238,1,1,1,0,'super 55 parts','hi--i am parting out a super 55 and have the grills &amp; top cap if your dad is still interested---you can email me at  <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:kgteinc@goquest.com\">kgteinc@goquest.com</a><!-- e -->---i can send pictures---thanks &amp; let me know\r\nkent gordon\r\n211 ACR 375\r\npalestine, tx 75801\r\n903-729-8349','',0,0,'','388tyz4f',0,0,'u_676','',0),(4950,0,674,0,'66.90.218.67',1097622238,1,1,1,0,'super 55 parts','hi--i am parting out a super 55 and have the grills &amp; top cap if your dad is still interested---you can email me at  <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:kgteinc@goquest.com\">kgteinc@goquest.com</a><!-- e -->---i can send pictures---thanks &amp; let me know\r\nkent gordon\r\n211 ACR 375\r\npalestine, tx 75801\r\n903-729-8349','',0,0,'','388tyz4f',0,0,'u_676','',0),(4952,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1097707101,1,1,1,0,'Hey','Larry\r\n     Check out \"Who\'s online\"     How can a guest be on the HPOCA forum?\r\n\r\n\r\nLater got to go to bed!\r\n\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','1u6iblpi',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4953,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1097707297,1,1,1,0,'never mind','Never mind I see how it works!!! <!-- s:oops: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif\" alt=\":oops:\" title=\"Embarassed\" /><!-- s:oops: -->','',0,0,'','27asaazo',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4959,0,112,0,'64.33.183.156',1097718674,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','Hi, This is FRANK LULICH, MEMBER #28, Username: Smalltownisolation I would like to be able to voice my opinion about all the BS that is going on with this \"CLUB\" This is a god damn travesty that politics has to play out with this, When this club was founded, It was founded upon members that \"ENJOYED OLIVER\" Many of them such as my father who was in this from the get go, This club is about OLIVER, Not petty mudslinging. Im very glad that my father passed before this crap blew up. This is a much too common occurence in the world today. WHY CANT WE SHUT UP and TALK OLIVER AGAIN. My father met many people in his all too short life thru this magazine. He found parts and info for his Oliver 99 (which was on the cover of the Motorbooks Intl. Oliver Tractor Book),and he met many wonderful people(Including an Oliver Enthusiat from australia)that all shared the same passion for Oliver like he had.   Im sorry, Im not blaming you guys, I believe you do a wonderful job with the magazine and I really look forward to reading about OLIVERS,which I was too young to be apart of. Pass this on to all of the mudslingers and naysayers on this page please','',0,0,'','1jaxa201',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4963,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.34',1097806695,1,1,1,1,'Re: membership','The most current one is the 2003 list. We didn\'t advertise it in the Sept/Oct issue due to space constraints, but it is the July/Aug. \r\n\r\nThey are $10, plus $3 for shipping.\r\n\r\nIf you want one, just send a check or money order to:\r\n\r\nHPOCA \r\nc/o Becky Losey \r\n11326 N. Parma Rd.\r\nSpringport MI 49284','',0,0,'','1s5j6esu',0,0,'u_238','',0),(4964,0,112,0,'64.33.183.156',1097718674,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','Hi, This is FRANK LULICH, MEMBER #28, Username: Smalltownisolation I would like to be able to voice my opinion about all the BS that is going on with this \"CLUB\" This is a god damn travesty that politics has to play out with this, When this club was founded, It was founded upon members that \"ENJOYED OLIVER\" Many of them such as my father who was in this from the get go, This club is about OLIVER, Not petty mudslinging. Im very glad that my father passed before this crap blew up. This is a much too common occurence in the world today. WHY CANT WE SHUT UP and TALK OLIVER AGAIN. My father met many people in his all too short life thru this magazine. He found parts and info for his Oliver 99 (which was on the cover of the Motorbooks Intl. Oliver Tractor Book),and he met many wonderful people(Including an Oliver Enthusiat from australia)that all shared the same passion for Oliver like he had.   Im sorry, Im not blaming you guys, I believe you do a wonderful job with the magazine and I really look forward to reading about OLIVERS,which I was too young to be apart of. Pass this on to all of the mudslingers and naysayers on this page please','',0,0,'','2k93z2sa',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4967,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.34',1097807226,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA forums','Let me just say this, I know what you mean.\r\n\r\nAnd thanks.','',0,0,'','1zblb1f5',0,0,'u_112','',0),(4968,0,730,0,'199.146.49.164',1097772201,1,1,1,0,'join group','Name:  Ed Hall\r\nMember#:  10010935\r\n\r\nCould not find \"join group\" button.','',0,0,'','2ikimktr',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4969,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.34',1097807844,1,1,1,1,'Re: join group','I\'ve got you added.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'','2ssqctsh',0,0,'u_730','',0),(4974,0,40,0,'70.21.17.47',1097845493,1,1,1,0,'Re: By-Laws','Andy:\r\n\r\nWell, I guess it was not okay to write against the by-laws.  I really did not think you would have Chris not print any letters that were critical of the by-law revisions.   But I guess you learn something every day.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','3fy6foo1',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4979,0,40,0,'70.21.17.47',1097845493,1,1,1,0,'Re: By-Laws','Andy:\r\n\r\nWell, I guess it was not okay to write against the by-laws.  I really did not think you would have Chris not print any letters that were critical of the by-law revisions.   But I guess you learn something every day.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','3fy6foo1',0,0,'u_47','',0),(4984,0,47,0,'12.65.30.32',1097973505,1,1,1,0,'Re: By-Laws','Hey Bill,\r\nAt the time that first started, I didn\'t know pro or con. It wasn\'t until Chris got his teat in the wringer and blew up that he told me it was opposing. I wish the policy and procedure manual was finished. It contains policy which limits campaigning, which was developed 6 years or so ago. This was the result of a very nasty incident. As you have probably noticed, I have been trying to only provide answers. By adhering to this policy, if I take a stand pro or con, I would probably be accused of campaigning. So, if I can\'t express personal views, why should someone else be allowed to do it. If there is a problem, it should have been addressed in the meeting. That is where we conduct our business. I answered all questions asked of me. If a member had a problem, they had the option of making a motion to refer back to committee, if that was done, and passed, it would not be eligible for the ballot. If they didn\'t attend the meeting for any reason, the responsibility falls on them, by failing to attend, a member forfeits certain rights. Such as entering motions, and voting, though a member can vote thru proxy.  I can assure you of one thing, if knowing what I know now, I would have been very hesitant in taking this committee, as a matter of fact, if Bob Tallman had told me of all this conflict when he asked me to join, I would still have Grandpa\'s HG, but the rest would probably be red.\r\nThe only good thing I have found is meeting several really good folk, the rest I could live without!!!!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','xqr35s77',0,0,'u_40','',0),(4996,0,731,0,'204.181.83.211',1098158945,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Hi Chris,\r\n\r\nI would like access to the HPOCA Forum. Kenny Grimm, membership number 144. Anna finally set me up with my own account so I can view this board while she was home on break from college. I hope it\'s okay for both of us to have our own user names on the same membership.\r\n\r\nKenny Grimm','',0,0,'','3fv2y8aj',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4998,0,731,0,'204.181.83.211',1098158945,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum','Hi Chris,\r\n\r\nI would like access to the HPOCA Forum. Kenny Grimm, membership number 144. Anna finally set me up with my own account so I can view this board while she was home on break from college. I hope it\'s okay for both of us to have our own user names on the same membership.\r\n\r\nKenny Grimm','',0,0,'','3fv2y8aj',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(4999,0,733,0,'66.82.9.61',1098239842,1,1,1,1,'Join Group','Last Name CARR\r\nnumber     10006178','',0,0,'','2q8i8h0m',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5000,0,733,0,'66.82.9.61',1098239842,1,1,1,1,'Join Group','Last Name CARR\r\nnumber     10006178','',0,0,'','2q8i8h0m',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5004,0,110,0,'205.188.116.66',1098491094,1,1,1,0,'Re: eh!!!','Well, there aint much else left to say now, is there  LOL','',0,0,'','20rys8my',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5008,0,110,0,'205.188.116.142',1098491417,1,1,1,0,'Re: eh!!!','yeah, i hear ya. Best to not do that though, could jeopordize your freindship with Landis, as im sure all hell would break loose than','',0,0,'','3q9nzopi',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5014,0,110,0,'205.188.116.142',1098491797,1,1,1,0,'Re: eh!!!','yeah i wil be on later','',0,0,'','10b061vm',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5016,0,110,0,'205.188.116.142',1098503444,1,1,1,0,'re-register','Hi Chris. How about it Chris, now that we have closed the forum to members only i think it would be only fair to everyone that we all re-register using our first and last name with membership#. I think it would be the perfect way to get this all out in the open and settled proper. Just a thought!!!','',0,0,'','sfqmte19',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5022,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098573633,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey!!','Hi How are ya?  Leo Becton is an oliver guy from NC  He is a black guy. Havent ever personelly met him but Mark Korves told me he is alright......for what thats worth LOL   It could be Allen, its either him or one of the Bleekers  LOL','',0,0,'','1gcwso7v',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5026,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098574187,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey!!','Yeah, i agree, Chris is kinda stuck in the middle. Did i send you a copy of his email to me about my idea??','',0,0,'','9u6zu00d',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5029,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098574354,1,1,1,0,'sendin','I just sent it via email','',0,0,'','2djj9h2c',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5033,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098574957,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','yeah im thinkin so..........but im always leary just the same','',0,0,'','18grczfu',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5037,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098575448,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','ouch, i know that feeling. Sherry hadnt as of last thursday got it straighten out yet. The Senator or whoever is still working on it. She did say that the auditor who refused her the permit dropped dead of a heart attach a week or two ago so they might have to start the whole process over as there is no one to interveiw now as to why she wasnt granted in the first place. Stay tuned on that one.','',0,0,'','1wvkjg60',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5040,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098575632,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','Well im gonna go make some popcorn and get me a cool one and get ready to watch the cardinals kick some beantown butt  Later man','',0,0,'','2btw6vnt',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5044,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098575762,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','Im plannin on going to plain city for sure, not so sure on the Beiler one yet. Are you going Danny??','',0,0,'','1w5h0f1a',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5048,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098575842,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','I sure miss Andy, wish the dumb fuck would come back so i could harrass him some more LOL  10-4 on the popcorn beer farts','',0,0,'','2uxkqs5a',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5051,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098575912,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','Be there  Sherry, Larry Coltrin and more will be there','',0,0,'','2fexhcux',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5054,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098576061,1,1,1,0,'Re: sendin','Game time!!!!  See ya after the game, hopefully there will be some new shit on here from those clowns so we can rip em some more.  Later..........','',0,0,'','96t74n7i',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5059,0,88,0,'4.155.57.113',1098650712,1,1,1,0,'my question','Bob,\r\n\r\nI already knew the answer to the question I posted, but thought what the hell, lets see what they do with this one.\r\n\r\n                                         Doug','',0,0,'','3jgfb1z5',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5060,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1098653948,1,1,1,0,'Re: my question','Hey, how are ya? Its a perfect question, i just tought i would add a little retoric to it, to bait somebody, anybody. Usually ends up bein Andy. Each subject like this, each insuing discussion, just reveals a little more all the time of what we already know. They are sittin back just waitin for article V111 and the newly formed HPO to run its course and be off with the lot. No doubt in my mind and than if we let them away with it, they will blame us for it all LOL  Can see it coming.......','',0,0,'','1p70g45d',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5061,0,65,0,'216.183.132.192',1098658471,1,1,1,0,'bylaws','I may have missed something on this but what happened to chapters each having rep on BOD or did it just get too big of a hassle re size of board?  I refuse to comment publicly anymore on the HPOCA , All though I sometimes have to go plow or split wood for a couple days till idea goes away, after the bashing that I recieved for my\" poor sherry\" post. Funny thing was noone emailed,phoned or even snail mailed about it! Thanks for any info Grant','',0,0,'','25ch41x0',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5062,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1098653948,1,1,1,0,'Re: my question','Hey, how are ya? Its a perfect question, i just tought i would add a little retoric to it, to bait somebody, anybody. Usually ends up bein Andy. Each subject like this, each insuing discussion, just reveals a little more all the time of what we already know. They are sittin back just waitin for article V111 and the newly formed HPO to run its course and be off with the lot. No doubt in my mind and than if we let them away with it, they will blame us for it all LOL  Can see it coming.......','',0,0,'','3niwbgmu',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5064,0,5,0,'216.166.192.107',1098663761,1,1,1,0,'SRAAA Secret Code','Sam, I was just about to go looking for your registration so I could send this and found it just above mine!!\r\n The pass word to the SRAAA site is (he thinks) ronjimbrad...or it could be jimronbrad....etc... he\'s sure it is our three first names...try ronjimbrad first. Good luck.\r\n  He also reactivated the e-mail on that site to <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:ollie77@galesburg.net\">ollie77@galesburg.net</a><!-- e -->\r\n User ID is spoonrivertractor \r\n  Have fun and knock yourself out. \r\n We will have a plow day Nov. 6&amp;7 at Inness Farm just south of Galesburg. You are most welcome if you can make it. I\'m sure I\'ll get some pics to post.','',0,0,'','z9z2oh7g',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5065,0,465,0,'4.225.89.50',1098633777,1,1,1,1,'Andy','Don\'t have time today for a big long post. do think it would have been better if you added the letters and a rebuttal from Andy if he has one. I haven\'t seen one yet here. If they were defense-able I believe he would have.','',0,0,'','3uicmv18',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5066,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.177',1098672228,1,1,1,1,'Re: Andy','We offered Andy a chance for rebuttal, but he wasn\'t keen on that, but he did like it better than nothing.\r\n\r\nIt\'s all a moot point now. The Nov/Dec issue is done now. Becky is proofing ti as I type this.','',0,0,'','32ceuvcd',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5067,0,88,0,'4.155.99.6',1098663749,1,1,1,0,'Re: my question','Hi,\r\n\r\nWell, isn\'t it interesting that Oliver60 sounds an awful lot like Yieldmap?\r\nI guess it\'s just my imagination,,,,,,,but they have exactly the same technique of quoting piece by piece our posts, then trying to discredit what we said. \r\n\r\nI\'m not going to give him the satisfaction of making any direct replies to his comments. \r\n\r\nIt will be interesting to see how it all ends up.\r\n\r\nGuess maybe we should thank Allen and the boys,,,,hey without\r\ntheir \"good work\" we wouldn\'t have Oliver Heritage. I think Sherry is better off this way, away from these idiots, and Andy, (he\'s in his own special class of idiot, above and beyond all the others)\r\n\r\nI figure \"they\" are most likely reading these \"private\" messages,,,,but I really don\'t care at this point. \r\n\r\n                                  Doug','',0,0,'','2lnekr1j',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5068,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098698062,1,1,1,0,'Re: my question','Yeah your probably right about them reading our pm\'s  Oh well, i got home from work and read that crap and just couldnt resist. Should put me #1 on the black list again.  RIGHT WERE I WANT TO BE.  Be good Doug!!!','',0,0,'','277v7ft6',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5069,0,5,0,'216.166.192.185',1098647090,1,1,1,0,'1952 88','Hi, John\r\n  In Feb I was using my 88 when all of a sudden the engine would try to \"run away\" and the RPM\'s would skyrocket. I\'d just hit the kill switch and restart it and it would be fine. It did this a couple of times and I dismissed it as having to do with the 10 degree weather we were having and never thought much more about it. \r\n  The tractor hasn\'t been started since then and when I had it running today, it did it a couple of times. The throttle lever was less than half way down (above the split in the quadrant casting by a notch or two) at the time. It had just tried to stall and I had used the choke to catch it before the engine died. When the RPM\'s came back up it really\" took off\". I assume (yeah, yeah, I know) this has to be a governor problem. Your thoughts as to a cure would be most welcome. \r\n                                                Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','c3fc7o1d',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5070,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1098698062,1,1,1,0,'Re: my question','Yeah your probably right about them reading our pm\'s  Oh well, i got home from work and read that crap and just couldnt resist. Should put me #1 on the black list again.  RIGHT WERE I WANT TO BE.  Be good Doug!!!','',0,0,'','3j7fhl8f',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5071,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.218',1098719286,1,1,1,1,'your posts','Chris,\r\n\r\nIf any of the \'renegades\' were stirring up trouble like you are, I\'d be sending them this same message.\r\n\r\nYou need to back off, or at least sign your name to the post. I\'ve gotten all of them to do it, now it\'s your turn. I don\'t want to require people to post their names with their posts, but if this keeps up, I will do just that.\r\n\r\nAs far as I am concerned, any post on the HPOCA forum withour a real name with it is just going to cause trouble.','',0,0,'','3s3rb1v1',0,0,'u_707','',0),(5074,0,65,0,'209.240.113.36',1098761389,1,1,1,0,'forum','Thanks for stepping in !  I overstepped my boundary\'s in YT according to the correct police [cookie et. all] so now I just lurk!!!! But the shadow knows!!!!! <!-- s8) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif\" alt=\"8)\" title=\"Cool\" /><!-- s8) -->','',0,0,'','1lgfqqv5',0,0,'u_707','',0),(5075,0,65,0,'209.240.113.36',1098761389,1,1,1,0,'forum','Thanks for stepping in !  I overstepped my boundary\'s in YT according to the correct police [cookie et. all] so now I just lurk!!!! But the shadow knows!!!!! <!-- s8) --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif\" alt=\"8)\" title=\"Cool\" /><!-- s8) -->','',0,0,'','1lgfqqv5',0,0,'u_707','',0),(5076,0,707,0,'209.143.37.172',1098764980,1,1,1,0,'Re: forum','Thanks for the support! I was just sick of all their BS. When Danny Tabor posted the post about the false advertisement I decided I\'d had enough and gave them some back. I didn\'t mean to make Chris mad at me, though it looks like the renegades are now control what can be posted in the forums and what can not.','',0,0,'','1y8g0qg2',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5078,0,707,0,'209.143.37.172',1098764980,1,1,1,0,'Re: forum','Thanks for the support! I was just sick of all their BS. When Danny Tabor posted the post about the false advertisement I decided I\'d had enough and gave them some back. I didn\'t mean to make Chris mad at me, though it looks like the renegades are now control what can be posted in the forums and what can not.','',0,0,'','1y8g0qg2',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5079,0,5,0,'216.166.192.107',1098663761,1,1,1,0,'SRAAA Secret Code','Sam, I was just about to go looking for your registration so I could send this and found it just above mine!!\r\n The pass word to the SRAAA site is (he thinks) ronjimbrad...or it could be jimronbrad....etc... he\'s sure it is our three first names...try ronjimbrad first. Good luck.\r\n  He also reactivated the e-mail on that site to <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:ollie77@galesburg.net\">ollie77@galesburg.net</a><!-- e -->\r\n User ID is spoonrivertractor \r\n  Have fun and knock yourself out. \r\n We will have a plow day Nov. 6&amp;7 at Inness Farm just south of Galesburg. You are most welcome if you can make it. I\'m sure I\'ll get some pics to post.','',0,0,'','392cff9g',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5081,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1098837516,1,1,1,0,'Go get \'em','Good to see someone else harassing \'em!!','',0,0,'','1jfapc6j',0,0,'u_707','',0),(5082,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1098837516,1,1,1,0,'Go get \'em','Good to see someone else harassing \'em!!','',0,0,'','1jfapc6j',0,0,'u_707','',0),(5083,0,80,0,'147.92.245.66',1098844732,1,1,1,0,'Hallejuah!','Thank you Sam for speaking up! I have been sitting here steaming up a post about board members\' relatives and how they all have the right to post just like anyone else, as well as reasons NOT to use your name sometimes, because then they can more easily personally attack you (that was before oliver60 started getting some ugly posts going tho). That\'s why I haven\'t put that post up, is because I don\'t need to read the insults back against me. I commend you on being able to speak up and against the Renegades, I\'d love to but I just don\'t think I could handle the backlash. These people don\'t realize that this club isn\'t gonna disappear just because a few people are disgruntled. I understood your post about being in the club a long time: we\'ve been in it since the beginning, and we\'ve seen all the changes it\'s gone thru, but yet it\'s survived and is still growing. I\'ll be glad after the elections and these people calm down!\r\n\r\nYou\'ll have to send me picture of Blake\'s Halloween costume!!!!! I need a new background on my desktop, right now I have the King girls from last year on it.\r\n\r\n~Anna','',0,0,'','3vuyd0us',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5084,0,80,0,'147.92.245.66',1098844732,1,1,1,0,'Hallejuah!','Thank you Sam for speaking up! I have been sitting here steaming up a post about board members\' relatives and how they all have the right to post just like anyone else, as well as reasons NOT to use your name sometimes, because then they can more easily personally attack you (that was before oliver60 started getting some ugly posts going tho). That\'s why I haven\'t put that post up, is because I don\'t need to read the insults back against me. I commend you on being able to speak up and against the Renegades, I\'d love to but I just don\'t think I could handle the backlash. These people don\'t realize that this club isn\'t gonna disappear just because a few people are disgruntled. I understood your post about being in the club a long time: we\'ve been in it since the beginning, and we\'ve seen all the changes it\'s gone thru, but yet it\'s survived and is still growing. I\'ll be glad after the elections and these people calm down!\r\n\r\nYou\'ll have to send me picture of Blake\'s Halloween costume!!!!! I need a new background on my desktop, right now I have the King girls from last year on it.\r\n\r\n~Anna','',0,0,'','3vuyd0us',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5085,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1098847166,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hallejuah!','Good to hear from you, Anna.  How\'s school?  Partying?\r\n\r\nI haven\'t been on the site much, with Blake and school and harvest, but I thougth I\'d drop in.  And voila, I\'m the subject again.  Really pisses me off...what a bunch of idiots.\r\n\r\nOh well, gotta work on my final for Production Operations Management.  Gotta fire Excel up!!\r\n\r\nSee ya,\r\nSam','',0,0,'','24og75tm',0,0,'u_80','',0),(5086,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1098847166,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hallejuah!','Good to hear from you, Anna.  How\'s school?  Partying?\r\n\r\nI haven\'t been on the site much, with Blake and school and harvest, but I thougth I\'d drop in.  And voila, I\'m the subject again.  Really pisses me off...what a bunch of idiots.\r\n\r\nOh well, gotta work on my final for Production Operations Management.  Gotta fire Excel up!!\r\n\r\nSee ya,\r\nSam','',0,0,'','24og75tm',0,0,'u_80','',0),(5087,0,80,0,'147.92.245.66',1098848069,1,1,1,0,'haha schoolwork','ooooooooh Excel! Thrilling program! I myself have been working in the Microsoft Office products tonite as well, SQLing myself up some queries for my Database Design class in Access. School\'s going FAST. NO, no partying, I honestly don\'t drink out at school. I see too many drunk idiots out here that I don\'t feel like joining them, and I have an agreement with Nolan that we both don\'t drink unless we\'re with family or with each other. Right now I\'ve been busying myself trying to find an internship for the summer and for Spring of 2006. Have applied at: Alliant Energy, John Deere(GASP!), Isle of Capri Casinos, and Principal, but am still looking at more places. Haven\'t heard anything yet. Hoping to find something in the Cedar Rapids or QC area, crossing my fingers for that!\r\n\r\nTake care! Tell Susan hi for me! Looking forward to Moline, to celebrate some birthdays  <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: --> ! Good luck on finals and fieldwork, what a busy combination!\r\n\r\nAnna','',0,0,'','3ambgzv7',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5088,0,110,0,'152.163.100.66',1098872594,1,1,1,0,'Hey Sammy--Bill','Not sure which one of you is posting. Itdontreally matter. Right from the start of all this mess, i wasnt sure who was at fault. Was freinds with Sherry, so i stuck up for her. Didnt know her Dad real well than, still dont. Not really a big fan of him, had some dealing with him, he treated me fair enough i guess, but just had this gut feeling. Dont know what it was but-----  I never really did hear all the fine print on how they wrestled that #3 project away from the club, dont even know who the hell i should beleive anymore. \r\n\r\nIf your interested in talking with me on the phone, and givin me more of your side of all this shit, i will be more than willing to listen. I have talked a bit with Duane Star and Lyle  Dumont, even Mark Korves, and i have to admit, im starting to have my doubts about some of what i had been told by Sherry.\r\n\r\nIf your interested, say so with your # and i will spend the dime. If you got any kind of proof that there was indeed just cause for all this, like im suspecting, i will do my best to get these guys to back off. \r\n\r\nJust figurein all this childish shit is getting everybody nowhere and if i can help arrange a truce than its worth a try.  If nothing else, i want to know for my own peice of mind.  My own gut feeling right now is there was probably lots of fault on both sides. But to know, i gotta hear it from someone who absolutely knows. \r\n  I really dont think you would stay so adament about all this if you didnt have a really good reason.\r\nIf you dont want to help me understand this mess, well i guess i would understand that also.\r\n\r\nIts your call Guys----\r\n\r\n\r\nBob Cook','',0,0,'','assstljb',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5089,0,110,0,'152.163.100.66',1098872594,1,1,1,0,'Hey Sammy--Bill','Not sure which one of you is posting. Itdontreally matter. Right from the start of all this mess, i wasnt sure who was at fault. Was freinds with Sherry, so i stuck up for her. Didnt know her Dad real well than, still dont. Not really a big fan of him, had some dealing with him, he treated me fair enough i guess, but just had this gut feeling. Dont know what it was but-----  I never really did hear all the fine print on how they wrestled that #3 project away from the club, dont even know who the hell i should beleive anymore. \r\n\r\nIf your interested in talking with me on the phone, and givin me more of your side of all this shit, i will be more than willing to listen. I have talked a bit with Duane Star and Lyle  Dumont, even Mark Korves, and i have to admit, im starting to have my doubts about some of what i had been told by Sherry.\r\n\r\nIf your interested, say so with your # and i will spend the dime. If you got any kind of proof that there was indeed just cause for all this, like im suspecting, i will do my best to get these guys to back off. \r\n\r\nJust figurein all this childish shit is getting everybody nowhere and if i can help arrange a truce than its worth a try.  If nothing else, i want to know for my own peice of mind.  My own gut feeling right now is there was probably lots of fault on both sides. But to know, i gotta hear it from someone who absolutely knows. \r\n  I really dont think you would stay so adament about all this if you didnt have a really good reason.\r\nIf you dont want to help me understand this mess, well i guess i would understand that also.\r\n\r\nIts your call Guys----\r\n\r\n\r\nBob Cook','',0,0,'','assstljb',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5090,0,80,0,'147.92.245.66',1098848069,1,1,1,0,'haha schoolwork','ooooooooh Excel! Thrilling program! I myself have been working in the Microsoft Office products tonite as well, SQLing myself up some queries for my Database Design class in Access. School\'s going FAST. NO, no partying, I honestly don\'t drink out at school. I see too many drunk idiots out here that I don\'t feel like joining them, and I have an agreement with Nolan that we both don\'t drink unless we\'re with family or with each other. Right now I\'ve been busying myself trying to find an internship for the summer and for Spring of 2006. Have applied at: Alliant Energy, John Deere(GASP!), Isle of Capri Casinos, and Principal, but am still looking at more places. Haven\'t heard anything yet. Hoping to find something in the Cedar Rapids or QC area, crossing my fingers for that!\r\n\r\nTake care! Tell Susan hi for me! Looking forward to Moline, to celebrate some birthdays  <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: --> ! Good luck on finals and fieldwork, what a busy combination!\r\n\r\nAnna','',0,0,'','37sysj4c',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5092,0,3,0,'12.2.142.7',1098896985,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','Bob,\r\n\r\nLet\'s start off with this...there\'s only one person here.  Dad doesn\'t even get on the site much...gets too frustrated.  So, please understand that I\'m a member just like you guys, and have my own opinions.  Some of them agree with dad\'s, some don\'t.  In fact, if he would have listened to me, we wouldn\'t have seen the #3 deboccle at all.  It would\'ve been stopped much, much earlier.\r\n\r\nGive me a buzz tonight if you want.  I\'ll be home taking a test for Ops Mgmt class.  I\'ll probably need a break!!\r\n\r\nSam\r\n309-446-9998','',0,0,'','ggvpqra6',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5096,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1098911987,1,1,1,0,'Re: hey','Hi Just got in here, havent had a chance to read it yet','',0,0,'','3ou7qlry',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5098,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1098927539,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','Hi Sammy. Thanks for the response. I just got home from an auction, picked up a nice old oliver walkin plow, some oliver weights and a very nice 1950 66 standard. I trucked all last night and spent all day buying and draggin this cache home so im bout ready to hit the hay. I will call you one of these nights, would love to get another veiw of this mess. I got a feeling i aint gonna like what i hear, but im not gonna feel right about all this till i know the truth. ALL OF IT!!!\r\n\r\nLater Bob','',0,0,'','20pl1t7d',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5099,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1098927539,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','Hi Sammy. Thanks for the response. I just got home from an auction, picked up a nice old oliver walkin plow, some oliver weights and a very nice 1950 66 standard. I trucked all last night and spent all day buying and draggin this cache home so im bout ready to hit the hay. I will call you one of these nights, would love to get another veiw of this mess. I got a feeling i aint gonna like what i hear, but im not gonna feel right about all this till i know the truth. ALL OF IT!!!\r\n\r\nLater Bob','',0,0,'','20pl1t7d',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5101,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1098929438,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','No problem.  Call whenever.  Sometimes we\'re home, sometimes we\'re not...just depends on the night.  Leave a message if we don\'t answer.\r\n\r\nWe\'re thinking of getting rid of the house phone and going with the cell\'s only.  If we do that, just PM me and I\'ll call you.\r\n\r\nMmmmm, love the cackle of a 66.  I\'ve got a Super 55 that I mow with...just love the cackle.  It\'s nice to get a good deal on an auction as well, hopefully you did.\r\n\r\nI don\'t know if I can be counted on for \"All of the truth.\"  I know a few facts here and there, along with my observations over the years.  I don\'t know if there is a clear story to everything that\'s happened in the past year.  I\'m just hoping that everybody can get along in the future, and support one strong club.\r\n\r\nGet some sleep, enjoy the new tractor.  I\'m still working on this stupid test, 3 out of 5 questions done.  I\'d sure like to be out gettin\' my hands dirty on that 66 right now...\r\n <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> \r\nSam','',0,0,'','xjuiigc0',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5102,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1098942223,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','Just got up a bit ago, knew i shouldnt lay down that early. Will have a terrible time gettin back to sleep now. Years of runnin a truckin outfit really messes up your sleep habits. \r\n\r\nThe one thing that really caught my attention the other day was your comment about bein around since the start, watchin people come and go and watchin people help the club and watchin people benefit from membership. This is the one thing i would like to get a little more insight into.\r\n\r\n    I do realize that this power thing has been going on since the start of the club. I absolutley hold nobody or no party solely responsible for this. I also realized that it went on for years and was basically non of memberships concern or business as the majoority of them were totally unaware and even if they did hear whispers, probably couldnt have cared less.\r\n\r\nHaveing said that, i think that most of this uproar has come about because of this website. Probably would of been a good thing if it never had of come about. All it has done has created a place for more members to become involved with inner club business and see some of the conflicts that have eroded over the years and litterally erupted because of that stupid #3 project.\r\n\r\nI hold absolutely nobody responsible for any of this mess. I will be perfectly honest with you, i dont even really care much for ollie or tichenor for that matter. Sherry has always been good to me and helpful as well, but im no fool when it comes to knowing how hard she can be to deal with at times also. I can only imagine what a nightmare it must of been to work with her sometimes. However, i feel that, all that aside, her heart was very much in the best interests of the club. \r\n\r\nIf you guys coulda only been a little more graceful and proffessional about your approach to getting her outa there, 99% of this hard feeling wouldnt have come to pass. Grilling Ollie in public like that was a mistake i feel. Im not sayin he didnt deserve it, just not there for sure. \r\n\r\n   If you talk reasonable with these guys and try and help them understand whats goin on, im sure this will quite down soon. \r\n\r\nI really wish Terry had of put a stop to it all long ago with some comments on here. In my mind thats all he needed to do, as they were all looking for leadership more than anything. As long as this forum is up and running, leadership is gonna have people wanting information on club activities. Being snubbed is only gonna cause more trouble.\r\n\r\nIts too bad they even started this site really. As far as shutting it down goes, thats not even an option anymore as it would destroy any credibilty the club has left. \r\n\r\n\r\nOk this typin shit is makin me tired   Im goin back to bed.','',0,0,'','2nvj4pbh',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5103,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1098942223,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sammy--Bill','Just got up a bit ago, knew i shouldnt lay down that early. Will have a terrible time gettin back to sleep now. Years of runnin a truckin outfit really messes up your sleep habits. \r\n\r\nThe one thing that really caught my attention the other day was your comment about bein around since the start, watchin people come and go and watchin people help the club and watchin people benefit from membership. This is the one thing i would like to get a little more insight into.\r\n\r\n    I do realize that this power thing has been going on since the start of the club. I absolutley hold nobody or no party solely responsible for this. I also realized that it went on for years and was basically non of memberships concern or business as the majoority of them were totally unaware and even if they did hear whispers, probably couldnt have cared less.\r\n\r\nHaveing said that, i think that most of this uproar has come about because of this website. Probably would of been a good thing if it never had of come about. All it has done has created a place for more members to become involved with inner club business and see some of the conflicts that have eroded over the years and litterally erupted because of that stupid #3 project.\r\n\r\nI hold absolutely nobody responsible for any of this mess. I will be perfectly honest with you, i dont even really care much for ollie or tichenor for that matter. Sherry has always been good to me and helpful as well, but im no fool when it comes to knowing how hard she can be to deal with at times also. I can only imagine what a nightmare it must of been to work with her sometimes. However, i feel that, all that aside, her heart was very much in the best interests of the club. \r\n\r\nIf you guys coulda only been a little more graceful and proffessional about your approach to getting her outa there, 99% of this hard feeling wouldnt have come to pass. Grilling Ollie in public like that was a mistake i feel. Im not sayin he didnt deserve it, just not there for sure. \r\n\r\n   If you talk reasonable with these guys and try and help them understand whats goin on, im sure this will quite down soon. \r\n\r\nI really wish Terry had of put a stop to it all long ago with some comments on here. In my mind thats all he needed to do, as they were all looking for leadership more than anything. As long as this forum is up and running, leadership is gonna have people wanting information on club activities. Being snubbed is only gonna cause more trouble.\r\n\r\nIts too bad they even started this site really. As far as shutting it down goes, thats not even an option anymore as it would destroy any credibilty the club has left. \r\n\r\n\r\nOk this typin shit is makin me tired   Im goin back to bed.','',0,0,'','2nvj4pbh',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5104,0,465,0,'4.225.89.254',1098999435,1,1,1,1,'Questions?','John,\r\n\r\n  in a previous post you said you asked Terry some of the questions we have been asking. At this point I wouldn\'t mind if I got some answers second hand. What did he have to say?','',0,0,'','2tcspvmo',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5105,0,65,0,'216.183.132.192',1098658471,1,1,1,0,'bylaws','I may have missed something on this but what happened to chapters each having rep on BOD or did it just get too big of a hassle re size of board?  I refuse to comment publicly anymore on the HPOCA , All though I sometimes have to go plow or split wood for a couple days till idea goes away, after the bashing that I recieved for my\" poor sherry\" post. Funny thing was noone emailed,phoned or even snail mailed about it! Thanks for any info Grant','',0,0,'','2do91xbw',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5106,0,47,0,'12.65.55.252',1099018279,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Hey Grant,\r\nWe looked at it, and decided each chapter having a rep was too many, that would make a BOD of 26, seeing that Larry Widner and myself were the only regular attendees, out of 17 chapters, that leaves 15 chapters who don\'t regularly attend meetings, making a quorum improbable at any given time. It was Larry who came up with the current proposal of having one chapter rep, chosen by the entire committee of chapter reps. This would replace membership committee. I haven\'t been on the HPOCA forum at all in the last couple of weeks, I\'m fed up with them. If they want to know something, they can just go fish!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','3lxizlws',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5108,0,65,0,'209.240.113.43',1099021487,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Andy I hear you loud and clear!! Since cookie et. all are corrrect police and dragged me though the bushs the H with them!  Now get your election over with and we will send you home with a nice steak  when you come north to get your flu shot! I can\'t eat all of it!!  Grant','',0,0,'','xmut9xpc',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5111,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099023938,1,1,1,0,'Hey','Quite frankly, i dont even care anymore. Im sick of all that Sh*t. Oliver 60 pissed me off the other day when he challenged me to what i have contributed to the club. Maybe absolutely nothing, but after answering him i realized, it dont matter anyways, i do what i love and thats talk and play and restore olivers and all this sh*t has started to spoil that fun for me so im not even acknowledging it anymore. I do plan on calling you sometime though, just to air it out a little, if ya dont mind.\r\n \r\n\r\nBob','',0,0,'','ssvyglwq',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5112,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099023920,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey Sam','Did you read what Chris posted about the lawyer thing?  Kinda suprised me...both that there was an email sent, and that Chris posted it.\r\n\r\nHe had been pretty non-partisan, but I think he\'s getting tired of all the arguing.\r\n\r\nOdd you mention how the website has allowed more people to become involved in the politics.  I spoke with someone else tonight who said the same thing.  Actually, I\'m to blame for the website.  There\'s a story behind that one that I need to tell you...that was the last time Sherry ever talked to me...before I got the website up and running.  Too bad.  We had a lot of beers over Oliver talk together.\r\n\r\nI took a break from studying to check out the site...everybody\'s back at it again.  Will it ever end?\r\n\r\nSee ya, \r\nSam','',0,0,'','3tbshlwe',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5114,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099023938,1,1,1,0,'Hey','Quite frankly, i dont even care anymore. Im sick of all that Sh*t. Oliver 60 pissed me off the other day when he challenged me to what i have contributed to the club. Maybe absolutely nothing, but after answering him i realized, it dont matter anyways, i do what i love and thats talk and play and restore olivers and all this sh*t has started to spoil that fun for me so im not even acknowledging it anymore. I do plan on calling you sometime though, just to air it out a little, if ya dont mind.\r\n \r\n\r\nBob','',0,0,'','3faz0u22',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5116,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099024239,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hey','You\'re sounding like me, Bob.  I don\'t like getting trashed on the forum.  I didn\'t really read much of what he posted, but a comment like \"What has XXX done for the club\" certainly isn\'t called for.\r\n\r\nBut, there\'s plenty of talk out there that isn\'t called for.\r\n\r\nI adopted the philosophy of \"Ignore them and they will leave\" for a while, but it didn\'t work.  So, I thought maybe talking with the Renegade crew might help.  So far, I don\'t think I\'m making much headway.\r\n\r\nOh well, gotta hit the hay.  Have a good night.\r\n\r\nSam','',0,0,'','2lfdgp4k',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5117,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099024992,1,1,1,0,'Sam','Some of those guys are pretty possessed or infatuaited with all this shit. I doubt ignoring them will work, nor either will arguing with them. I really dont know what the answer is.  All i know is, im thoroughly sick of the whole thing and its time for this boy to start  enjoying my tractors and work again and forget about it. Its almost like i dont like my tractors anymore because they are associated with this shit.  How friggin crazy is that???','',0,0,'','lwsvrol2',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5119,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099024992,1,1,1,0,'Sam','Some of those guys are pretty possessed or infatuaited with all this shit. I doubt ignoring them will work, nor either will arguing with them. I really dont know what the answer is.  All i know is, im thoroughly sick of the whole thing and its time for this boy to start  enjoying my tractors and work again and forget about it. Its almost like i dont like my tractors anymore because they are associated with this shit.  How friggin crazy is that???','',0,0,'','lwsvrol2',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5120,0,737,0,'69.40.53.175',1099048490,1,1,1,0,'1650d head','What should a good head cost,also mine is the type that has the injectors that bolt onto the head.I would appreciate the guy from Tenn. phone #.I can be emailed at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:kyme@alltel.net\">kyme@alltel.net</a><!-- e -->,will be out of town this weekend.Thank you for your help.','',0,0,'','pfnvkygz',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5121,0,12,0,'69.128.201.138',1099071210,1,1,1,0,'Board meeting','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nI wanted to let you know that most of the BOD should be at the auction. They are going to have their board meeting that night in Springfield OH. at the Super 8 exit 54. \r\n\r\nI know this because I asked Chris. I see you are not too far away. John.','',0,0,'','kdeikili',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5122,0,65,0,'209.240.113.43',1099022424,1,1,1,0,'You Tried!','Well you tried !! but even if  you send the renigades a million each they would still bitch....about poor interest rates or it wasn\'t tax free or what ever!  After cookie et. all bashing me here I do not even feel like answering any posts here ,not your fault but the H with them. Much more interesting at oliver gang when Net Knockout posts pictures!!!   <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->  May be coming down for that sale at Plain City with little JIm you going??? reguards Grant','',0,0,'','1wcofxaw',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5123,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.143',1099130401,1,1,1,1,'Re: You Tried!','Grant,\r\n\r\nWe will be at the auction on the 13th. There is going to be a board meeting after the auction, so now we have to go.\r\n\r\nI know what you mean about Netknockout. What a nice set of.... pictures, yes, that\'s it!!!\r\n\r\ntalk to you later,','',0,0,'','1jy3167r',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5124,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099024063,1,1,1,0,'Oliver60','Chris,\r\n\r\nI haven\'t seen much from Oliver60 lately.  You didn\'t kick him off, did you?\r\n\r\nWe need the help to deal with these goons.\r\n\r\nBesides, he didn\'t do anything worse that any of the Renegades have done...especially Edchainsaw.  He\'s gettin\' pretty nasty.\r\n\r\nAnyway, if you did kick him off, please let him back on.  I can\'t be around for all the fights, and we don\'t want to let the Renegades think they\'re winning.\r\n\r\nSam','',0,0,'','1v98arfk',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5125,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.143',1099130618,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver60','I didn\'t ban him or anything,  all I asked was for him to put a name with his post. I was just trying to be fair, because that\'s what I\'d make them renegades do.\r\n\r\nSorry I hadn\'t been on for a couple of days, I\'ll go get \'em.','',0,0,'','2bxweh9z',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5131,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099142863,1,1,1,0,'Re: Sam','The one thing that I\'ve concentrated is the reason for the hobby: the tractors.  I get enough BS at work; I certainly don\'t want any BS in my hobbies.\r\n\r\nRained last night...no picking corn today.\r\n\r\nHowever, I did finish my test last night, about 12:15.\r\n\r\nGonna take the kid around today for some trick-or-treating.  It\'s his first time, so this should be interesting, 8 mo\'s old.\r\n\r\nI\'ll be around tonight, give me a buzz if you\'re in.\r\n\r\nSam','',0,0,'','vvfw0mt4',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5132,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1099146374,1,1,1,0,'1650 head','Hi The guy in tenn that i sold that head to is Randy Head. His # is 615-330-3558 or his brother Don Head can be reached at 615-417-9575. Just tell them Bob Cook gave you there #s and that your wanting to know if they still have that 1650 deisel head i sold them a while ago. Thanks and good luck.  They are great lads, you will enjoy talking with them. Bob Cook','',0,0,'','27sbyg83',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5134,0,465,0,'4.225.89.227',1099143456,1,1,1,1,'Re: Board meeting','John\r\n\r\n I\'ll be there.  Looking forward to it. If I\'m scheduled for work I\'ll call in sick. And I will be there with my list of questions. What I can\'t figure out is If all these people have asked the board these questions why hasn\'t one of the answsers leaked out in some fashion.','',0,0,'','1t1amkpx',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5135,0,12,0,'69.128.203.118',1099185018,1,1,1,0,'Re: Board meeting','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nI just talked to a fellow member today and he thought they were having the board meeting on Friday night. Let me do some checking and get back to you with a definite answer. John.','',0,0,'','6eywxfh7',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5138,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187001,1,1,1,0,'oliver plow','Hey Sammy, you know anything about old oliver chilled plows??  I got one out the scap that im tryin to identify','',0,0,'','3moda3tf',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5141,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187066,1,1,1,0,'Re: uuuugh','Im here. Tryin to download some new pics onto my web site  pissin me off','',0,0,'','3jgezjx3',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5145,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187265,1,1,1,0,'Re: uuuugh','Yes, i did so. Dont even know what to think anymore. Aweb site is a lot of work and very hard on the pateince beleive me','',0,0,'','3usdvggm',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5148,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187337,1,1,1,0,'Re: uuuugh','i sent ya a email','',0,0,'','2mcs8dm5',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5153,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187518,1,1,1,0,'Re: uuuugh','i got girly freinds, was married 13 years, divorced 10  never ever again','',0,0,'','1r2zrfsa',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5155,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099187001,1,1,1,0,'oliver plow','Hey Sammy, you know anything about old oliver chilled plows??  I got one out the scap that im tryin to identify','',0,0,'','2s7dn2cd',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5158,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099185994,1,1,1,0,'Hi','Whats going on John?? How are you tonight?','',0,0,'','3vjceg28',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5161,0,465,0,'4.225.94.78',1099231800,1,1,1,1,'Re: Board meeting','John, \r\n \r\n See this is another thing that needs to be brought up. How many club members know there will be a board meeting that Friday? Board meeting need to be published in the magazine. Not, Heh, four of us will be at such and such auction and we will call it our quarterly meeting. That is part of the bogus act they put on.  What if they start that disiplinary crap at a semi secret meeting like this. this is the stuff that goes on that breeds the Sherry and Landis crap.','',0,0,'','3awo27jr',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5162,0,12,0,'69.128.203.118',1099232425,1,1,1,0,'Re: Board meeting','You\'re exactly right Keith. The quarterly mtgs need to be set up and planned at the mtg before hand. That is one of the things I will try and get done. I know the excuse will be... We can\'t plan that far ahead. I say if you\'re going to serve this club you need to make it a priority. \r\n\r\nI\'ve read a Robert\'s rule book and it looks like that disciplinary rule is a long drawn out one if done properly. I doubt any of the current board will want to work that hard to see it through. I think it\'s more for intimidation. John.','',0,0,'','6c7g3eih',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5164,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099194635,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver plow','I know a little, but am no expert.  What markings are on it?  Numbers?  Under the moldboard, or on the frame?\r\n\r\nIf you had a picture to go along with it, that would help.\r\n\r\nDad\'s got an old Book of Oliver that might have some info.  I could look it up.\r\n\r\nSend me some info....\r\n\r\nSam','',0,0,'','18ujj6n5',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5165,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099234651,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver plow','send me your email and i will send you a couple pictures  Bob','',0,0,'','nvr2gn22',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5166,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099142718,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver60','OK, just checking in.  I didn\'t see him anymore, so I was wondering.\r\n\r\nI think your posts are more damning to the renegades than anything.  You\'ve been pretty neutral overall, but it appears that you\'re getting tired of it.  With any luck, they\'ll back off.  I\'ve had one of them (Bob Cook) PM me and want to talk on the phone.  He\'s having some doubts about Sherry and the crew, and I think he\'ll see the light pretty quickly.\r\n\r\nYes, I\'ll take a copy of Sherry\'s \"lawyer letter.\"  I\'m suprised she was stupid enough to actually send that to you.  I think they realize they\'re losing, and they\'re getting desperate.  The end is near.....\r\n\r\nSam','',0,0,'','2gkd6gp9',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5167,0,10611,0,'209.153.132.42',1099237849,1,1,1,1,'Re: Oliver60','I just sent it to you. \r\n\r\nProbably the reason they arre being quiet is it\'s a weekend. I\'ve noticed most of them do their ramblings on the job, but have better things to do once they are home.','',0,0,'','3tkizget',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5168,0,5,0,'216.166.192.252',1099229616,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA back issues','Hi, Becky an Chris\r\n  Happy Halloween from Galesburg, IL.\r\n I\'ve decided that I\'ll use my \"extra\" hour of Daylight Saving Time to write you and order some back issues. \r\n  I\'d like one each of the following:   Vol I  Issue IV,  Vol IX  Issue IV,  Vol XI  Issue III,  Vol XI  Issue VI, and  three more of the one with the race car, Vol XV Issue V (I think). \r\n As the old saying goes, \"The check is in the mail\". \r\n                               Thanks                \r\n                                       Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','2t5x4xmv',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5169,0,10611,0,'209.153.132.42',1099238520,1,1,1,1,'Re: HPOCA back issues','Jim,\r\n\r\nWe have a few others to pull to fill orders, so we\'ll pull out your order as well.\r\n\r\nHappy Halloween!','',0,0,'','39qugc3z',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5175,0,465,0,'4.225.94.247',1099274093,1,1,1,1,'auction','Any chance you will make it over to Plain City? would like to sit and have some coffee if you do.','',0,0,'','2gi789xz',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5176,0,12,0,'69.128.203.118',1099275923,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','If I\'m going to Ohio then I surely wouldn\'t miss out on an auction! I don\'t know the final details of my plans but I\'ll be sure and let you know what they are. \r\n\r\nSorry I\'m not a coffee drinker... Mt Dew will work though! John.','',0,0,'','21zqzqtt',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5177,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1099146374,1,1,1,0,'1650 head','Hi The guy in tenn that i sold that head to is Randy Head. His # is 615-330-3558 or his brother Don Head can be reached at 615-417-9575. Just tell them Bob Cook gave you there #s and that your wanting to know if they still have that 1650 deisel head i sold them a while ago. Thanks and good luck.  They are great lads, you will enjoy talking with them. Bob Cook','',0,0,'','1gmjif1f',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5178,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099278521,1,1,1,0,'head brothers','Were ya able to get ahold of Randy or Don???  about the 1650 head','',0,0,'','3cjwmwdm',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5180,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.164',1099281916,1,1,1,1,'Re: old threshing picture','Keith,\r\n\r\nFirst off, Thanks.\r\n\r\nNow for the picture. That\'s a neat one. We could probably use it either way, but it would look good in the magazine as well. Could we use the PM you sent as a letter to the editor? We\'d just include the parts pertaining to the picture. It may also make a good back cover photo. We have been trying to use a period photo for the back cover as a rule, so this would go along with that idea.','',0,0,'','1qeled73',0,0,'u_188','',0),(5181,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1099234651,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver plow','send me your email and i will send you a couple pictures  Bob','',0,0,'','j8r0n69u',0,0,'u_3','',0),(5187,0,3,0,'205.161.1.46',1099288306,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver plow','<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:yieldmap@hotmail.com\">yieldmap@hotmail.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n\r\nJust finished picking corn.  Long day.\r\n\r\nSee ya,\r\nSam','',0,0,'','24e4gsmo',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5188,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099278521,1,1,1,0,'head brothers','Were ya able to get ahold of Randy or Don???  about the 1650 head','',0,0,'','3fuxrozu',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5189,0,5,0,'216.166.193.116',1099245472,1,1,1,0,'1800A','Hi, John. I\'m finally getting the alternator on the 1800 and was noticing between the head and the valve cover there seems to be a piece about 1\" thick, front looks like it\'s maybe the bottom of the thermostat housing. What is this? I\'ve never seen anything like it, except where someone wanted to \"stroke\" an engine and needed more clearance on the top end. \r\n The reasn I ask is one of the ears on the casting for the thermostat housing is broken off on this 1\" thick piece. It\'s not leaking, just wondering. \r\n Hope you folks are done harvesting. It\'s rained around here for the last 2 weeks. Everyone around here is mostly done, thank goodness, as the fields are saturated now.','',0,0,'','17xs1xm8',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5191,0,65,0,'209.240.113.43',1099021487,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Andy I hear you loud and clear!! Since cookie et. all are corrrect police and dragged me though the bushs the H with them!  Now get your election over with and we will send you home with a nice steak  when you come north to get your flu shot! I can\'t eat all of it!!  Grant','',0,0,'','3dpy8uz7',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5193,0,47,0,'12.65.54.183',1099312697,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Hey Grant,\r\nThe best way to beat those guys is to ignor them, it makes them wonder what you are planning for them next. I won\'t need to come up north for a flu shot. I am a US Army veteran, the VA hospital has priority thru the military for any medicine, I can go there, it costs me nothing. It is part of my Viet Nam benefits. I wouldn\'t mind some of that beef though, can you get it thru the border? Maybe we can do some cookin\' at Moline. I think the internet will clean up pretty soon, that or there will be some pretty strict actions taken by the board. Those guys are getting tons of flak from members offended by the idiots, and it is having an effect on possible contributors to the museum project. Basically, they are telling Terry if we want their money, clean up our act. Saturday after next will be a board meeting, I expect this to be a hot topic. At Madison I pulled Chris out of the fire, and kept the site going, then he wants to do the wrong thing to impress the wrong people, I have to get in the middle of it to enforce existing rules. He gets mud on his face, blames me, and gets mad about it. I\'ll look in on the site before the meeting, but, my guess is nothing has changed. If so, I will not stick my neck out again for them.\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1sf5zvug',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5196,0,465,0,'4.225.91.31',1099320751,1,1,1,1,'auction','Larry, \r\n\r\nAny chance you could make the auction at Plain City? going to hook up with John Hume, Chris, and as many of the board I can speak to one on one. Sure would like to finally meet you.','',0,0,'','1jmqfdao',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5197,0,465,0,'4.225.91.31',1099320751,1,1,1,1,'auction','Larry, \r\n\r\nAny chance you could make the auction at Plain City? going to hook up with John Hume, Chris, and as many of the board I can speak to one on one. Sure would like to finally meet you.','',0,0,'','1jmqfdao',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5198,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1099321138,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Keith,\r\nDamn straight I\'m going, looking forward to meeting you too.','',0,0,'','bjnzfblh',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5201,0,465,0,'4.225.91.31',1099320253,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','I\'ll buy.','',0,0,'','9gp6vmkt',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5204,0,65,0,'216.183.132.169',1099369073,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','After rereading your post I thougt of what cockshutt club did at their last directors meeting over website problems......     shut down the interactive part just to many hassles! I was at the meeting as we host the national cockshutt show next year. Grant','',0,0,'','31xzdr78',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5206,0,65,0,'216.183.132.169',1099369394,1,1,1,0,'edchainsaw!!','I happened to notice on YT the other day that edchainsaw had posted his collection had 22 Deeres 7 or 8 olivers .....I would love to post but .....I can hear the whining allready.........Grant','',0,0,'','fe13dv9v',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5209,0,10611,0,'209.153.142.146',1099409230,1,1,1,1,'Re: editing posts','Larry,\r\n\r\nIf you want to edit a post, there will be a button on the upper right corner of that post. I have editing turned off in the HPOCA forum, as people re-writing or deleting their posts in the past has made it look like I was changing posts around. So to keep eveything on the up and up, nobody can edit or delete on the HPOCA forum. This change went into effect when I upgraded the forum earlier this year, so no one should have been able to change anything since around April. Anything before that would have been done on the old software.\r\n\r\nIf you have any other questions, just let me know','',0,0,'','2jxx37o4',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5210,0,110,0,'152.163.100.136',1099409124,1,1,1,0,'Plow','Hi!!!  Was just wonderin if you had been able to find anything on that plow. I found too dates on it, one says 1868 the other says  may, 1871. There is a bunch of patent #s also. \r\nBob','',0,0,'','1l27hohz',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5218,0,731,0,'204.181.83.191',1099442416,1,1,1,0,'FWA','Hey Dean, I caught the little note you made on Yesterdays Tractors about the turning radius of a fwa tractor. I used my 2-85fwa on the 6 row narrow planter again this year and it worked great. I shredded stalks with it this fall and also used it on a 550 bushel grain cart I bought. Just thought I\'d drop you a note as I saw your reply and thought right away-I know who he\'s talking about. Hope you both are doing well-talk to you later.-Kenny','',0,0,'','2z49usop',0,0,'u_22','',0),(5220,0,740,0,'65.208.44.106',1099484544,1,1,1,0,'Hercules IXA','Hi John\r\n  You had a question on my Hercules problem?\r\nBill','',0,0,'','255s7ctp',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5221,0,96,0,'216.201.29.157',1099532247,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hercules IXA','Yes I did. The original IXA blocks used in those engines did not have replaceable inserts and I never heard of the half and hald deal. The old or first HG &amp; GG Cletrac units used the IXA engine and I need to get some of my old books out to check a few things. Where are you located? I am in Ohio. Depending on the weather as we have some fall harvest work to do yet and my employer has a special assignment for me that is due Tuesday, but I will try to check some more of this out by this week end. Send me a U. S. mail and a normal e-mail adress and I will get back with you. Right now we are having a little scaner problem so I may need to photocopy this information for you. John','',0,0,'','3r9htfhb',0,0,'u_740','',0),(5224,0,740,0,'65.208.44.106',1099568173,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hercules IXA','Good Morning John\r\n When I get home tonight I will take pictures of the bearings,crank and bellhousing and send them to you. I found rings,gaskets,valve guides at M&amp;M Surplus they are going to take aweek or so to get so there is no rush. My Info: Bill Copeland\r\n                     32 Elm Street\r\n                     Assonet MA 02702\r\n   E-mail: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:wbcelec@yahoo.com\">wbcelec@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n  Daytime tel. # 1-800-933-6322 x 508 7:00 am to 4:00 pm EST','',0,0,'','1jan6fp6',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5225,0,465,0,'4.225.89.254',1098999435,1,1,1,1,'Questions?','John,\r\n\r\n  in a previous post you said you asked Terry some of the questions we have been asking. At this point I wouldn\'t mind if I got some answers second hand. What did he have to say?','',0,0,'','25oytgmy',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5227,0,7,0,'64.12.116.131',1099619278,1,1,1,0,'Re: Questions?','Well, I just spent 45 minutes writng you and got booted off so I lost it all.\r\n\r\nI haven\'t been ignoring you, I must be blind LOL','',0,0,'','155n4dwv',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5232,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1099624707,1,1,1,0,'Re: Plow','Hi  Did Duane stop by today on his way home??','',0,0,'','ymwze040',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5236,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1099625373,1,1,1,0,'Re: Plow','Yeah it rained here for most of the night and all day also. I decided to just give it to Duane, plows dont do much for me and he drove a long way for his tractor, felt it would be a nice questure and than when it fell on my shine in the dark as i was about to put it in his truck, i was wishin i had of left it in that guys scap truck. My shin is black and blue and purple from the knee to the ankle. \r\n\r\nSooooooo, whatever it is, i got a much better name for it. I hope Duane finds it a good home though.  LOL  Thanks Bob','',0,0,'','3s85toqk',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5240,0,110,0,'64.12.116.136',1099626116,1,1,1,0,'Re: Plow','He heard the thump, asked me in the dark three or four times if i was ok, i couldnt answer him cause i was countin to 50, so i didnt maybe offend with words that his wife might not have apprecaited. LOL  Its ok though, just peeled off 2 or 3 hundred old lacrosse scares. Seein all those nice high crops will make me forget real quick. Least till i start seein what they are bringing. Hope to see you there.','',0,0,'','3602sbn3',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5241,0,7,0,'64.12.116.131',1099619278,1,1,1,0,'Re: Questions?','Well, I just spent 45 minutes writng you and got booted off so I lost it all.\r\n\r\nI haven\'t been ignoring you, I must be blind LOL','',0,0,'','2g3vcycf',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5242,0,465,0,'4.225.5.28',1099630599,1,1,1,1,'Re: Questions?','There is an auction up at Plain City Oh. the 13th. Most of the BOD will be there. Hear they are having one of their Secret meetings. A few of us are going to try to get our answers there.','',0,0,'','1uc9a4ec',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5243,0,465,0,'4.225.5.28',1099632874,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','any ideas on how to hook up. Cell phones? I\'ll have mine. 513.304.7666','',0,0,'','1b4xdr81',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5245,0,465,0,'4.225.5.28',1099630599,1,1,1,1,'Re: Questions?','There is an auction up at Plain City Oh. the 13th. Most of the BOD will be there. Hear they are having one of their Secret meetings. A few of us are going to try to get our answers there.','',0,0,'','23ozvptn',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5247,0,465,0,'4.225.5.28',1099632987,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Any ideas on how to hook up. Cell phones? mine is 513.304.7666','',0,0,'','15rn0lgg',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5249,0,740,0,'65.208.44.106',1099686784,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hercules IXA','John \r\n Here is the pic. of the two part bearing\r\nBill\r\n[img:1e545q6i]http&#58;//www&#46;richietano&#46;com/billpic/bearing&#46;jpg[/img:1e545q6i]','',0,0,'CA==','1e545q6i',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5250,0,65,0,'216.183.132.169',1099368859,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','Oh I would love to get beef south!!!! Fats are 85 cents live for the best here [65 us]  on the rail about 1.25 [ 98 us] and they have to be under 30 months old . Big packers can get boneless meat over so they are making a killling ! Young cows 20 cents a pound but hamburger still $2.99 !! Once again freezer will be full but your election may or may not change that!! Grant','',0,0,'','1xpze7xk',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5251,0,65,0,'216.183.132.169',1099369073,1,1,1,0,'Re: bylaws','After rereading your post I thougt of what cockshutt club did at their last directors meeting over website problems......     shut down the interactive part just to many hassles! I was at the meeting as we host the national cockshutt show next year. Grant','',0,0,'','o6mqo985',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5253,0,465,0,'4.225.91.230',1099862020,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n how can we meet at the auction? would like to talk to you before I go looking for board members.\r\n\r\n I will have my cell.    513.304.7666','',0,0,'','243wnkdi',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5255,0,465,0,'4.225.91.230',1099862288,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','John,\r\n I would like to meet up with you and Larry before running down board members. Any Ideas? I will have my cell phone.  513.304.7666','',0,0,'','26yt69mh',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5256,0,465,0,'4.225.91.230',1099862020,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n how can we meet at the auction? would like to talk to you before I go looking for board members.\r\n\r\n I will have my cell.    513.304.7666','',0,0,'','1zcy5c9b',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5257,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1099884249,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Hi Keith,\r\nI\'ll have mine too, if it works there (nextel) (630)774-2087\r\n                                                            Larry','',0,0,'','3hwvnkw9',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5258,0,465,0,'4.225.5.28',1099632874,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','any ideas on how to hook up. Cell phones? I\'ll have mine. 513.304.7666','',0,0,'','2islu16k',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5260,0,465,0,'4.225.94.25',1099929119,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Nextel is pretty big here. it should work OK.','',0,0,'','3ab2flxk',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5261,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1099693478,1,1,1,0,'Did I miss something?','Seems that Doug took me to task for not repeating what Terry and I talked about but is unwillingly to accept my explaination of why I won\'t repeat the conversation.\r\n\r\nAnother thing, not to get on any one but have you talked to \"peta sucks\" aboout his/her handle. Even though I may agree with him/her, not sure the handle is appropriate here.\r\n\r\nJohn','',0,0,'','26qbfkpb',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5262,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.222',1099960234,1,1,1,1,'Re: Did I miss something?','John,\r\n\r\nSorry, I hadn\'t been on in a few days, been busy farming.\r\n\r\nI haven\'t read anything on the forum, yet, but I do agree about the Peta sucks name, its cool, but not really appropriate here. I\'ll talk with the person about getting them a new name.\r\n\r\nChris','',0,0,'','8vrol114',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5265,0,10611,0,'209.153.160.222',1099962594,1,1,1,1,'Your screen name','Hello,\r\n\r\nI have had some members express some concern about your screen name. While everyone so far agrees with it (Peta does suck) they are concerned that it may bring on trouble from people that do like peta.\r\n\r\nWould you consider choosing a new screen name? If you would, let me know and I\'ll change it for you.\r\n\r\nIf I get too many complaints, I may have to change it myself. Last thing we need is peta breathing down our necks.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','3c81tef9',0,0,'u_720','',0),(5268,0,614,0,'64.12.116.136',1099966646,1,1,1,1,'Thanks for you post :)','boy your  exactly right and I can not figure out why they cant see that.. but you see were the weirdos  ---   I am bucking to be the first one TOSSED...  and you know  I am almost wanting to...    I am not one to like Lawyers but you know...  I  have 2 cousins that are and I would love to see the jokers squirm --- even if I dont do anything LOL\r\n\r\n\r\nYOUR exactly right.. an officer is to  report what he\'s doing...\r\n\r\nthanks again Eddie:)','',0,0,'','1wq6c8ji',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5273,0,12,0,'69.128.206.99',1100009357,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction and board mtg.','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nSorry I hadn\'t got back to you sooner. I wanted to double check about the BOD mtg place and time. It is Sat. 7:00 PM at the Super 8. I will be at the Days Inn that is there also. \r\n\r\nWould you want to meet for breakfast Sat morning? There is a Bob Evans and Cracker Barrel right there. Or if you have another plan. You mentioned Larry, Larry Coaltrain I would guess. What\'s his plans. \r\n\r\nI am driving to Springfield Fri. night and staying there. Let me know what you think. John.','',0,0,'','iip99x48',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5278,0,88,0,'4.155.126.207',1100022183,1,1,1,0,'Re: Thanks for you post :)','HI,\r\n\r\nI just wish more people would post their opinions on the forum. I know a lot feel as I do, but it makes us look like we only a few trouble makers.\r\nRestricting the forum is the first step in shutting it down. Too bad what is happening to this group. \r\n\r\n                                             Doug','',0,0,'','2wr29e1o',0,0,'u_614','',0),(5279,0,614,0,'152.163.100.136',1100054230,1,1,1,1,'Re: Thanks for you post :)','I know its a shame.   I feel that there was an ego problem at the top  they will not  admit thats the problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nI did get out of hand a bit but I was so taken aback that it was  OUR fault because we didnt know what was going on....  \r\n\r\nEddie.','',0,0,'','3u7bx4a9',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5280,0,465,0,'4.225.94.25',1099929119,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Nextel is pretty big here. it should work OK.','',0,0,'','10rvd9jh',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5281,0,238,0,'205.188.116.7',1100055299,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Keith,\r\nI\'m really looking forward to meeting you. Danny Tabor and Bob Cook are planning on being there also.          Larry','',0,0,'','1kfhvjne',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5287,0,465,0,'4.225.89.46',1100115985,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n Wrenchbender wants to meet at the Bob Evans or the Cracker Barrell in Plain City that morning. you guys game? Said I would meet him, just need a time and which place. Danny is a great guy. had fun with him and Ed at the WGT. Don\'t know that I have met Bob. Should be a great day.','',0,0,'','z547flct',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5289,0,465,0,'4.225.89.46',1100117227,1,1,1,1,'auction','Danny,\r\n\r\n Larry told me you were coming in. When were you going to tell ME? John Hume is wanting to meet at the Bob Evans or Cracker Barrell for breakfast. Just waiting for him to name a place and time.  Board meeting that night at 7pm. This could be a fun weekend.','',0,0,'','cgi4cr6i',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5290,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1100119488,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Hey Keith,\r\n        I haven\'t committed myself to going yet.  I need to correct Larry but I THINK I\'ll be able to make it.  I\'ll have to make certain work can go on with out me.  I\'ll know more tommorrow.   What is it about a 7-8 hour drive from where I am?\r\n           Have you been getting the ATPL emails? I asked in one, how many people are going and where is a good place to stay while there. \r\n\r\nDanny\r\n\r\nif I do go keep cell phone communication open!!!!!! <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,0,'','3n48u8bq',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5292,0,465,0,'4.225.89.46',1100115635,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction and board mtg.','John,\r\nSorry I didn\'t get back sooner. I have been having mouse and keyboard trouble. I hope more is merrier. seems Danny Tabor and Bob Cook will be there as well. either place is fine with me. name it and a time. My mother inlaw lives on the east side of colubus and will drop my wife off early. Will stay for the meeting if they will let us in. Sounds like it could be a great day.','',0,0,'','27k1d62l',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5293,0,12,0,'69.128.206.99',1100128681,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction and board mtg.','Hey Keith,\r\n\r\nSounds like we need to find out where everyone will be at a certain time. Saturday morning would probably be the best for me. I\'m staying at Springfield and will go east on 70 to the London/Plain City exit, US 42. There is a truck stop/restaurant there at that exit. I can call you, do you want me to use your cell# or if you\'re at home I\'ll call there tonight. I\'m ready to get together! John.','',0,0,'','2sd7ifzy',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5297,0,465,0,'4.225.93.136',1100128910,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction and board mtg.','I\'m home   937.783.3311','',0,0,'','gp2rispq',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5299,0,465,0,'4.225.89.157',1100136100,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n\r\nWe are planning on meeting at the old Union76 truckstop just west of Columbus. It is on the south side of the hiway at US 42 and I-70 I think the truckstop might be a T/A now.  Sat 9am.  I wrote danny and talked to john on the phone this evening. hope this is ok with you. Could you pass it on to Bob. John said he will be driving a orange jeep. I will be driving a silver Blazer. Everyone but bob should have my cell phone#','',0,0,'','2xpur3ye',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5300,0,88,0,'4.155.123.196',1100096035,1,1,1,0,'Re: Thanks for you post :)','Hi,\r\n\r\nJUst keep one thing in mind,,,,,,,we did not cause any of this. We are only reacting to  they have done, or what they now refuse to do.\r\n\r\n                                 Doug','',0,0,'','8pnipp6h',0,0,'u_614','',0),(5301,0,465,0,'4.225.93.136',1100128797,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Danny,\r\n Not sure about the emails. I have been having computer trouble till today.  should be about 7hrs from Lancaster. My wifes mother lives on the eat side of columbus. She will be visiting her while I\'m at the auction and meeting. I may have to work sun evening. I\'m limping around the last few days.  Mon morning I dropped a oak ramp on my foot. fractured a big toe and the nail is ready to fall off. good pain killers!!!  taken with Mike\'s hard lemonade <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'','2tfk8jrf',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5302,0,465,0,'4.225.89.157',1100135181,1,1,1,1,'auction','Danny,\r\n\r\nWe are going to get together Sat morning 9am at US 42 and I-70. Ten miles west of Columbus. there is an old Union 76 truckstop there. I think it may be a T/A now.  US 42 will run you into Plain City. I will have My cell phone.   513.304.7666','',0,0,'','15ntprzr',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5303,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1100213402,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Tommorrow is friday and I\'m still up in the air as to whether I\'m going or not. Have to haul a couple loads first after that I\'ll see where I stand. Hopin\' I can con a neighbor to go along with me to keep me awake. I\'m certain to be very tired!!!!\r\n\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','2qr2d5d1',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5306,0,465,0,'4.225.89.46',1100115985,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n Wrenchbender wants to meet at the Bob Evans or the Cracker Barrell in Plain City that morning. you guys game? Said I would meet him, just need a time and which place. Danny is a great guy. had fun with him and Ed at the WGT. Don\'t know that I have met Bob. Should be a great day.','',0,0,'','2mj9udj7',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5307,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1100227742,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Keith,\r\nSounds good to me. I\'m staying at the Baymont in Dublin tomorrow night.\r\nFigure on getting to thew hotel around 8:00 pm local time.\r\nIf you get there b4 me, call and let me know which one your at.\r\n                                                                          Larry','',0,0,'','yq1h149j',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5308,0,465,0,'4.225.89.157',1100136100,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','Larry,\r\n\r\nWe are planning on meeting at the old Union76 truckstop just west of Columbus. It is on the south side of the hiway at US 42 and I-70 I think the truckstop might be a T/A now.  Sat 9am.  I wrote danny and talked to john on the phone this evening. hope this is ok with you. Could you pass it on to Bob. John said he will be driving a orange jeep. I will be driving a silver Blazer. Everyone but bob should have my cell phone#','',0,0,'','2rqd0pym',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5309,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1100228223,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','Can\'t miss me, I\'ll be in a white Dodge PU with silver boxes and pulling a 34\' gooseneck trailer. (I\'m coming to shop a little too!)\r\nI\'ll let Bob know.                                Larry','',0,0,'','1hrm6n8l',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5311,0,65,0,'216.183.132.167',1099972151,1,1,1,0,'forum','Little whispers I am hearing from the great white north [yes we have snow] Forum to be shutdown due to BS factor??? Cockshutt forum closed to web troubles [hackers] but I wonder.....were they afraid of same problems.  Grant','',0,0,'','231yw4jx',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5312,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.156',1100230920,1,1,1,1,'Re: forum','I haven\'t heard anything here, but ya never know. There is going to be a board meeting Sat after the auction, so I\'m sure I\'ll find out then.\r\n\r\nThey were threatening snow here, but we missed it. Been running beans this week, might get them finished tomorrow. Then it\'s on to the corn.....','',0,0,'','34bj37w7',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5313,0,720,0,'12.40.148.19',1099985326,1,1,1,0,'Re: Your screen name','Chris,\r\n   I\'ve used this name over a number of forums and this is the first one that has ever complained and it is a farm forum no less. How many peta members are hpoca members i wonder? I would rather keep the name.\r\n\r\n Would it be any different if i signed in as IH sucks or JD sucks. But with all the bitchin and whining going on in this forum it really doesn\'t suprise me that someone takes offense. Its hpoca forum if you want to change it go ahead but where will you stop, how many people have to complain about someone elses forum name.\r\nI guess I can\'t believe this pm out of a farm forum.\r\nDarrel Byrer','',0,0,'','ow90ewiu',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5314,0,720,0,'64.255.103.109',1100001804,1,1,1,0,'Re: Your screen name','sorry Chris I couldn\'t let this dog lay I kicked it','',0,0,'','xmcwiqn4',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5315,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.156',1100231607,1,1,1,1,'Re: Your screen name','It\'s ok. I agree with everything you say. And I think everybody on the forum does as well. \r\n\r\nI guess it\'s just the use of the word \'sucks\' (which they do, among other things...) that seems to upset some. My only concern is that someone may find our web site searching for peta, and try to bring down their wrath upon us. But I see it as a real slim chance, so I\'m going to let this drop for the time being. \r\n\r\nThanks for hearing me out','',0,0,'','15rspz8e',0,0,'u_720','',0),(5317,0,10611,0,'209.153.156.156',1100232188,1,1,1,1,'Re: membership','Larry,\r\n\r\nI asked Becky, and we haven\'t received anything from you. If we have learned anything by taking on this job, it\'s that the USPS is very unpredictable.\r\n\r\nIf it comes, I\'ll let you know.','',0,0,'','2o23ttyq',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5318,0,465,0,'4.225.95.193',1100218044,1,1,1,1,'Re: auction','hope all works out. would like you to meet my wife. She\'s heard a lot about you.','',0,0,'','2wjq4tdp',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5319,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1100236949,1,1,1,0,'Re: auction','OHHHH NO......I hope you lied to her and only said good stuff \"bout me!!!! <!-- s:wink: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" /><!-- s:wink: -->','',0,0,'','3em48u01',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5325,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1100284416,1,1,1,0,'Ha.','I called Larry today and told him. I won\'t be able to make it. I had it laid out.  I\'d haul 2 loads then come home and haul ass west.    One of our owner-operaters had an accident this morning. He hit and killed a guy on rt95 in Philedelphia.  Police think the guy jumped off an overhead brdge into the drivers path....suicide. \r\n     Well okay, I hauled 3 loads thinking maybe I can still make Ohio....Not going to happen, the other driver doesn\'t feel up to trucking for awhile and so I have to fill in for him tommorrow....Oh well could be worse. Could have been me\r\n\r\nKeep an eye on that 551 forklift for me.  I\'d be interested in what it brings\r\n\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','3m5q0gmd',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5326,0,720,0,'12.40.148.19',1100250214,1,1,1,0,'Re: Your screen name','thanks Chris\r\n I think this maybe a generation thing \"sucks \" to me means bad. Back in the 20\'s maybe earlier or later time frame it was a good thing to be \"happy and gay\" I don\'t thing I would want to be happy and gay now. happy but not gay. just my opinion on the use of words\r\nDarrel','',0,0,'','1p3e7r03',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5327,0,96,0,'216.201.29.18',1100311117,1,1,1,0,'1950','Larry send me a normal e-mail at <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'','31wsuuw0',0,0,'u_744','',0),(5330,0,465,0,'4.225.5.45',1100332905,1,1,1,1,'Re: Ha.','Man. guy I worked with had that happen to him. Guy way drunk and wanted to swing from a sign mounted to an overpass. Best wishes to your co-worker.','',0,0,'','3047wuds',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5333,0,744,0,'66.38.93.58',1100389890,0,0,1,0,'19504x4','i found nothing in my pm box','',0,0,'','3ovziltd',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5334,0,96,0,'216.201.29.162',1100442209,1,1,1,0,'Re: 19504x4','Send me a normal email at this address. <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->. also include your telephone number and a good time to call. I need the serial numbers and spec numbers for both units if you have them John','',0,0,'','3t8n52k1',0,0,'u_744','',0),(5335,0,47,0,'12.64.96.15',1100444454,1,1,1,0,'Canadian chapter','Hey Grant,\r\nThe board approved a show in Canada, about 20 miles from Port Huron, pending the forming of a chapter there. What that means is if you want a HPOCA primary show in Onterio, you will need to get a chapter going. If you guys do that, you will have the show. I would suggest that you contact your members soon, then have an organizational meeting. Once you can do this, the next thing would be to apply to the board for acceptance as a chapter. Hopefully, you will be able to do this before Moline. If so, you can lock it all in there. I found that when having an organizational meeting, it works best to set a date about 2 weeks in the future, then just do it. When we formed our chapter, I tried for 2 or 3 months to find a date everyone was happy with, mission impossible. You will never please everyone, but they will still show up. The best of luck in your efforts, perhaps, if you can\'t bring that Bruce county beef here, you will be able to cook up some for us there!!!!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','9h98b484',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5336,0,98,0,'209.51.206.85',1100447972,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Mike Kirkpatrick  # 689','',0,0,'','3mynsijt',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5337,0,98,0,'209.51.206.85',1100447972,1,1,1,0,'usergroup','Mike Kirkpatrick  # 689','',0,0,'','3mynsijt',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5342,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1100698862,1,0,1,0,'2-44 identification','Well it let me reg. to-day, maybe the graphic code was case sensitive????\r\n\r\nJust wanted to thank you for your help and effort with my questions.\r\n\r\nI\'m a newbie to this tractor stuff, I have lived in the city until this past\r\nsummer, the wife and I bought a small farm. Its been a dream of ours for years as she grow up on one and I would rather be outside anytime over inside.\r\n\r\nI bought this 2-44 as my main work horse for the farm.\r\n\r\nThanks Again\r\n\r\nRon','',0,0,'','2fkbegtb',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5343,0,96,0,'216.201.29.145',1100708471,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','Thanks. I enjoy trying to help the people. I worked for a dealer for 16 years. This is in northwest Ohio. We did not sell that many 550 tractors as this is rowcrop tractor country. I have a dealer friend not too far from here who has a flet of 2-44 tractors that he takes care of. Most are in the fork lift configuration. He is a good source for parts. I have never seen one with a cab. Where are you located?','',0,0,'','6ywoylpf',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5346,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1100714404,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','I\'m born and raised Canadian, live on the north side of Lake Erie.\r\nJust outside a small, and I mean small town called Lyons. The closest major center is London and its 25 min.\'s or so NW. This is farm \r\ncountry here, corn, soy and cattle as far as you can see.\r\n\r\nYou are not the first to mention that they have never seen a cab\r\non one before, I trust you followed the link to the picture.\r\nThe cab serial number is 11.506 and its a model \"tractor 2-44\". based on the model and the fact that it just fits the\r\nloader frame and tractor so nicely I believe it was built specifically for the 550, I will try to get a manufacture name \r\nfor you\r\n\r\nOn my 2-44 I\'m not real happy with the power steering circuit. Its\r\nnot the original pump (I think) as it just dose not seem to sit correctly, the mounting and adjustment brackets look like they have\r\nhad some after the fact hacking done to them. My brother-in-law is a mechanic for one of the big harvesting companies in this area and \r\nhe suggested that I run the power steering circuit off of the existing loader system. Now I\'m a Mechanical Engineer and work with \r\nhydraulic systems from a design standpoint all the time so I got thinking about his idea and if I run my pressure line to a flow control valve\r\nto divert off some flow and then through a relief valve to insure the PSI in the steering system never gets to high it should work. At worst \r\nit may slow down the loader speed which seems very fast to start with.\r\n\r\nHave you ever heard of this being done, it must be somewhat common.\r\n\r\nRon','',0,0,'','2gika9qe',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5347,0,96,0,'216.201.29.98',1100740348,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','On the serial number plate, what words are on there. Technically I think it will say White, but: I forget now, but if it has been a red ag tractor it would have said Cockshutt or did this tractor come from the American Side. You see White also had an industrial division. A 2-44LL is a designation for a White, not Oliver, not Cockshutt tractor. No I did not look at the picture. We have a Lyons about 40 minutes from here too. Small town flat farm land, corn beans &amp; wheat. Tomatoes yet but sugar beets are pretty well gone.The cattle are pretty well gone too. I am about 45 miles south west of Toledo almost along the Maumee River.  On your power steering with the flow divider, I will think about that. Next time I go over to my dealer friend I will look in his 2-44 parts books for power steering pumps. I would think you have a Cessna pump which is not covered in the service manual','',0,0,'','2uvkgunq',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5348,0,731,0,'204.181.83.70',1100741111,1,1,1,0,'Hey!!!','Bought anything lately? Know of any trucks heading my way from Texas? I have a good friend here by me that is dealing on a front wheel assist Case-IH and he wants to figure out a ride for it before he buys it. I thought of you right away as you are always dealing on something somewhere. The tractor is in Coleman, Texas which is west of Dallas. Let me know if you have any connections. Take-care!-Kenny','',0,0,'','nw4dil4j',0,0,'u_305','',0),(5349,0,65,0,'216.183.132.178',1100745226,1,1,1,0,'Re: Canadian chapter','Thanks for the info Andy.....I think ! I will contact the gentleman that is orginizing that show and go from there. We stopped at Sarnia to visit with one of the orginizers of that show but he was not home but talked with his sons.  So I should hear something soon.  Till later Grant','',0,0,'','3hy9t8j1',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5353,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1100803469,1,1,1,0,'2-44 identification','It has a California emissions tag attached inside the cab, the decals on the hood and loader say White. Both the loader tag and the\r\ntractor tag both say White Construction Company with US address\'s.\r\nUnderneath all that yellow White paint is Oliver green, I assumed that when White bought Oliver in the early sixties that they never\r\nchanged the Oliver name and would take equipment from them and repaint it and put the White name on it.\r\nHere in Canada we have a lot of Cockshutt\'s, I believe that was the name for any Oliver equipment sold in Canada back then.\r\n\r\nI ran into a small problem with the hose\'s I require to switch from the belt driven pump to the crank driven pump on the power\r\nsteering circuit. The fittings that connect to the steering motor at the steering column are 3/8 tube nuts and all the new valves I need to\r\nadd are #8 O-ring. I can\'t find an adapter to go from 3/8 tube nut to anything, O-ring, pipe or JIC. I\'m going to head down to the local\r\npower steering supply shop and try to find an existing hose with the right ends. If I have to I can just weld a tube nut fitting to the end of\r\nsomething that will work for me as a last choice.','',0,0,'','1tha0ciw',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5354,0,96,0,'216.201.29.186',1100822739,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','What are you using for a flow divider, pressure gallons per minute. My son  used to answer some tech calls for Weatherhead. I can ask him a good source for odd ball fittings. What is your phone number and I will give you a call. What is the problem with your Cessna set up?','',0,0,'','1x339bd3',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5355,0,96,0,'216.201.29.186',1100823001,1,1,1,0,'Re: 19504x4','Did you ever get a reply and have you started on your project?','',0,0,'','2vr4to9n',0,0,'u_744','',0),(5358,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1100878676,1,0,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','I work for a Equipment Manufacturer in Woodstock Ont. Ca. and we design and build Construction, Mining, Deep Sea Oil drilling, \r\nMarine winching, Rescue hoists, the list goes on and on. I tell everyone that if its \"big ugly and hydraulic we build it\".\r\nMy post secondary degree is in Mechanical Engineering, in the late eighties when computers started to come into play in the Engineering \r\ndepartment I saw an opportunity to advance in the company as they were going to need a computer geek in the future and started to \r\njockey for that position. I discovered that most people are scared of computers and used it to my advantage, man they do have an off \r\nswitch and if your computer is pissing you off use it.\r\nThe company\'s name is Timberland-Group  (   <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.timberland-group.com/\">http://www.timberland-group.com/</a><!-- m -->   ) and we own several other companies in North \r\nAmerica. Our US company is called TSE International located in Shreveport Louisiana. The link is our main Corporate web site (the first \r\none I ever created, that spinning globe took me a week to figure out and make work correctly, could do it in ten min. to-day) and from it \r\nyou can link to the rest of the companies we own.\r\n\r\nThat all being said the boys in the stockroom have already set me up with every thing I need and even offered to come over and\r\nwrench it all together for me, I turned them down on the assemble as that\'s the fun part and I didn\'t build a 40 x 80 shop so someone\r\nelse could wrench for me. Thanks for your offer.\r\n\r\nI also solved my odd ball fittings problem, the thread on the power steering motor is standard power steering straight thread (inverted \r\nflare tube nut), different then hydraulic component thread. I found a inv. flare nut and made up 4\" long 90 degree bend custom fittings \r\nwith the tube nut on one end and a flare less 1/2\" pipe thread on the other. I also discovered that GM uses the same thread on the \r\nfactory steel fuel lines on their full size models from the sixties to the eighties.\r\n\r\nThe cab on my 2-44 was manufactured by a company named Sims (   <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http://www.cabdepot.com/make_page.php\">http://www.cabdepot.com/make_page.php</a><!-- m -->   ). I found this link on \r\nthe net and I\'m sure it the same company but they now have a Canadian address and the tag on the inside of my cab is a US \r\naddress?????.\r\n\r\nYour son has Weatherhead connections, that\'s funny because it was an old Weatherhead catalog from 76 that put me on the right track \r\nto finding and building the custom fittings I needed.\r\n\r\nThe Cessna pump is not original and it seems large for the area it mounted in and actually sticks out from under the hood a bit on that \r\nside and is very close if not touching the bottom edge of said hood. When I purchased the tractor the price was right compared to other \r\ntractors I looked at without loaders and I was told it had  a power steering problem, in fact several. \r\nI suspect that at some point in the past the original pump was replaced for what ever reason and the mounting brackets and belt\r\narm were made by Mickey &amp; Minny Mouse and installed by Goofy.\r\nI don\'t like the way the pressure and return lines are run, to close to hot stuff.\r\nThe cessna is always covered in and dropping oil.\r\nThe belt tightening arm is just not right, not original.\r\nI\'m also one for removing horsepower robbing belt driven accessories, my Pro Street Chevelle has nothing but a water pump on the \r\nfront of it, everything else is run off of motion created by the drive shaft.\r\n\r\nStay in touch.\r\n\r\nRon','',0,0,'','3a0eyjdq',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5360,0,65,0,'216.183.132.178',1100745226,1,1,1,0,'Re: Canadian chapter','Thanks for the info Andy.....I think ! I will contact the gentleman that is orginizing that show and go from there. We stopped at Sarnia to visit with one of the orginizers of that show but he was not home but talked with his sons.  So I should hear something soon.  Till later Grant','',0,0,'','1go54sx3',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5362,0,749,0,'67.200.153.18',1100961569,1,1,1,0,'550 industerial,still wont rev','hey fellow,sorry i was on the this thing when you called,please try again\r\ni am here most of the time if you will leave number on mechine if not here, i will return your call save you what use to be a dime.540-582-3951\r\nthanks jasper','',0,0,'','n4t0da6f',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5363,0,96,0,'216.201.29.110',1100970111,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 identification','Simms cabs were made not too far from here. Send me an e-mail at : \r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->. I teach a hydraulic class and used to work for an Oliver dealer so I am interestedon how you are going to solve the steering as far asflow and psi goes. John','',0,0,'','2vd0es48',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5372,0,749,0,'67.200.135.217',1101062159,1,1,1,0,'550 ser#','hey fellow,the ser# is  167876,looks to be a 1965 model,hope this helps? snail mail,W,J FRIEND,po box 1592 fredericksburg va,22402\r\nE-MAIL,masternot@att.net\r\nthanks','',0,0,'','2f3nxdb0',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5373,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1101080465,1,1,1,0,'Minnie Moe!!!','Larry,\r\n    Get on ebay and check out the Minneapolis Moline UDLX....... Seeinf that does strange things to me!!!!!!  Wishin\' I was a millionare or better!!! <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,0,'','r0m989c8',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5377,0,5,0,'216.166.192.217',1101214626,1,1,1,0,'Mr. Fisher\'s trailer','Hi, John\r\n  Saturday evening after our annual club supper the Oliver guys in our group went to Terry\'s home to watch the Madison, SD show CD\'s. These were \"advance\" copies, the real thing will be available in about 2 weeks. It looked good, didn\'t see anything that needed to be changed. One CD has most of the Oliver parade and the other has Bill Meeker interviewing some of the people that brought things to display. One segement (guessing, maybe 5 to 8 minutes) was devoted to Mr. Fisher and his display. Really nice tour of the trailer and his pedals and boat motors. \r\n  Hope you are done farming for the year. A few farmers here are just now finishing up as the fields   have been extremly wet for the last 3 to 4 weeks, but it\'s winding down in a hurry. Most tillage is completed. \r\n Looking forward to the Winter Get Together in Moline. It\'s just a short hour drive from here so you can bet I\'ll be there. I\'ve never been to one before. \r\n Happy Thanksgiving!\r\n                                                    Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','2jfdka31',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5378,0,176,0,'71.0.208.62',1101275453,1,1,1,0,'Ellwyn  #10009205','Ellwyn  10009205','',0,0,'','2w9hx3n2',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5379,0,96,0,'216.201.29.199',1101305616,1,1,1,0,'Steering Gear.','That is not your problem. Something and I need to find a picture is causing your steering valve not to center.','',0,0,'','owlf2sv8',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5381,0,96,0,'216.201.29.164',1101313308,1,1,1,0,'2-44 STEERING','Send me your phone number. I will be gone until late Friday nigh andI will also be gone part of Saturday morning. John','',0,0,'','3ooisan1',0,0,'u_748','',0),(5384,0,176,0,'71.0.208.62',1101275453,1,1,1,0,'Ellwyn  #10009205','Ellwyn  10009205','',0,0,'','2875gjpj',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5385,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1101314973,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 STEERING','John I can be reached in the day time at this number.\r\n\r\n519 537 6262 ext 231\r\n\r\nOur free number is 1 800 387 1892\r\n\r\n\r\nRon','',0,0,'','2eyfwejz',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5387,0,718,0,'24.34.39.42',1101332650,1,1,1,0,'Almost running','Almost there. Should me running in the next couple of days!!','',0,0,'','3j1fyt2m',0,0,'u_35','',0),(5388,0,718,0,'24.34.39.42',1101332650,1,1,1,0,'Almost running','Almost there. Should me running in the next couple of days!!','',0,0,'','3j1fyt2m',0,0,'u_35','',0),(5389,0,751,0,'206.72.54.246',1101408029,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA usergroup','John Thumma member # 7718.  Please add me to the list OK\'d for HPOCA forum.\r\n\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nJT','',0,0,'','23ymlc01',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5390,0,748,0,'199.243.202.75',1101326336,1,1,1,0,'Re: 2-44 STEERING','My home number is 519 269 3716 the other two are my office.\r\n\r\nRon','',0,0,'','1dzmjd8a',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5391,0,751,0,'206.72.54.246',1101408029,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA usergroup','John Thumma member # 7718.  Please add me to the list OK\'d for HPOCA forum.\r\n\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nJT','',0,0,'','k2iuqvvn',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5392,0,96,0,'216.201.29.14',1101675792,1,1,1,0,'Starter Linkage','I started with the Oliver dealership in 1960 so the Super 55  models were not too old yet. However one reason they went to key start was the linkage on the super 55 models. There might have been a bulletin to that affect. Of course when they went to key start they also went to 12 volt starting systems. John','',0,0,'','wi5g69m2',0,0,'u_18','',0),(5393,0,82,0,'64.85.220.220',1101856065,1,1,1,0,'access to forum','My name is Jason M. Epperson and my membership number is 10002896.  I would like access to the hpoca forum please.','',0,0,'','3pmo9dxu',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5394,0,82,0,'64.85.220.220',1101856065,1,1,1,0,'access to forum','My name is Jason M. Epperson and my membership number is 10002896.  I would like access to the hpoca forum please.','',0,0,'','3pmo9dxu',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5402,0,754,0,'65.136.49.105',1102012878,1,1,1,0,'Location','We are located at Clay in Webster Co.','',0,0,'','14qqtv9j',0,0,'u_105','',0),(5404,0,754,0,'65.136.49.105',1102012878,1,1,1,0,'Location','We are located at Clay in Webster Co.','',0,0,'','14qqtv9j',0,0,'u_105','',0),(5405,0,105,0,'66.20.228.10',1102113987,1,1,1,1,'Re: Location','Ok, I know where you are roundabout.  Like I said, I am from Owensboro originally.  Do you ever go up to any of the shows around there?  Lampkins show out at Philpot or Threshermans Park up at Boonville, IN?  We always have tractors at those.  If you ever see any GM Olivers or big Molines, that is us.','',0,0,'','ld8c6kky',0,0,'u_754','',0),(5406,0,105,0,'',1053090794,1,1,1,1,'old style 88 tin','are you asking about value to price these items for sale?  if so, I am in dire need of ALL sheetmetal for my 88 industrial.  If you are selling them, message me back and let me know what you want for them. Thanks, Ian.','',0,0,'','1w8euapk',0,0,'u_105','',0),(5407,0,105,0,'66.20.228.10',1102113987,1,1,1,1,'Re: Location','Ok, I know where you are roundabout.  Like I said, I am from Owensboro originally.  Do you ever go up to any of the shows around there?  Lampkins show out at Philpot or Threshermans Park up at Boonville, IN?  We always have tractors at those.  If you ever see any GM Olivers or big Molines, that is us.','',0,0,'','2apb7foi',0,0,'u_754','',0),(5408,0,459,0,'67.250.226.22',1102447378,1,1,1,0,'1750 Special','Duane:\r\n\r\nIt was good to visit with you in the tractor parade out at the Cedar Valley Engine Club over Labor Day weekend. Your 1750 Special was the first one on those I had ever seen. You really did a great job on it. I was really happy to see it made the cover of Oliver Heritage. \r\n\r\nThe reason I am sending this message is, each year since 1999 the Cornbelt Chapter has been selling Oliver Calendars with pictures of members tractors. We have been gathering up pictures for the 2006 calendar that we will be putting together after the 1st of the year. Our deadline for pictures this year is Dec. 31st. If you have some sharp digital or 35mm pictures of the 1750 Special we would love to have you send them in for the 2006 calendar. You can send them through the mail or email if digital. Here is my info:\r\n\r\nMarc Sletten \r\n17537 Grundy Rd.\r\nCedar Falls, IA  50613-8271\r\n\r\n319-988-4319\r\n\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:sletten@kca.net\">sletten@kca.net</a><!-- e -->\r\n\r\nPlease let me know if this is something you might be interested in doing.\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'','39ud8rxh',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5409,0,12,0,'69.128.205.26',1102336751,1,1,1,0,'Thanks for the information','Hi Marc,\r\n\r\nI just wanted to say thanks for posting about the Oliver videos on the YT website. \r\n\r\nJohn Hume.','',0,0,'','u6x1ye4v',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5413,0,459,0,'67.250.226.116',1102351425,1,1,1,0,'Re: Thanks for the information','Hi John:\r\n\r\nI am usually out on YT several times a day. I like to help out when I can. I\'m not the mechanic in the family, my 23 year old son does all the work on our Oliver tractors. I usually try to help out on questions where I know the answer or I can find something in a reliable Oliver book.\r\n\r\nI have another reason for promoting the HPOCA. Terry finally got back to me on the Promotion &amp; Publicity position. I was approved by the board last month. I have already started doing several things that I hope will start growing the HPOCA again.\r\n\r\nGood luck on the election. Ifyou win I look forward to working with you in the future.\r\n\r\n--Marc Sletten--','',0,0,'','168s4e7n',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5415,0,459,0,'67.250.226.22',1102447378,1,1,1,0,'1750 Special','Duane:\r\n\r\nIt was good to visit with you in the tractor parade out at the Cedar Valley Engine Club over Labor Day weekend. Your 1750 Special was the first one on those I had ever seen. You really did a great job on it. I was really happy to see it made the cover of Oliver Heritage. \r\n\r\nThe reason I am sending this message is, each year since 1999 the Cornbelt Chapter has been selling Oliver Calendars with pictures of members tractors. We have been gathering up pictures for the 2006 calendar that we will be putting together after the 1st of the year. Our deadline for pictures this year is Dec. 31st. If you have some sharp digital or 35mm pictures of the 1750 Special we would love to have you send them in for the 2006 calendar. You can send them through the mail or email if digital. Here is my info:\r\n\r\nMarc Sletten \r\n17537 Grundy Rd.\r\nCedar Falls, IA  50613-8271\r\n\r\n319-988-4319\r\n\r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:sletten@kca.net\">sletten@kca.net</a><!-- e -->\r\n\r\nPlease let me know if this is something you might be interested in doing.\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'','v2in6grq',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5416,0,163,0,'216.51.171.156',1102508606,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Marc I will get busy and see if I can find some good shots that might work for you. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->  Uncle Du','',0,0,'','3f35xazg',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5417,0,163,0,'216.51.171.156',1102508606,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Marc I will get busy and see if I can find some good shots that might work for you. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->  Uncle Du','',0,0,'','3f35xazg',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5418,0,459,0,'67.250.226.206',1102512924,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Thanks Duane that would be great.\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'','32ifynuy',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5419,0,459,0,'67.250.226.206',1102512924,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Thanks Duane that would be great.\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'','32ifynuy',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5424,0,5,0,'216.166.192.65',1102735407,1,1,1,0,'oliver 88','What year is the 88? I have a fellow that wants a \'52 88 real bad. How much?? Thanks.                            Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','3brsm5xm',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5427,0,757,0,'152.163.100.136',1102821748,1,1,1,0,'Parsons Cable Plow','Hi John, Just trying to catch up with you.  You mentioned serial #s on the post you sent on the yt website.  Where would they be located on the tractor.  Also do you know of any salvage yards that would have any of the pieces you were talking about?  I live in  NC and Oliver salvage yards are not plentiful around here.  Thanks  Brandon','',0,0,'','2gfq6vmy',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5429,0,18,0,'70.69.122.128',1102835784,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum access','Hello Chris,\r\nThis is Paul Stanley \"Super 55\". My membership number is 10006543. I would like access to the HPOCA forum please. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','3w553d8m',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5430,0,96,0,'216.201.29.125',1102885629,1,1,1,0,'Re: Parsons Cable Plow','The serial number for the tractor will be on the dash down toward the bottom of the casting. I am sure a lot of those parts can be found in Ohio Send me a U S mail address and a normal e-mail address. Thanks John','',0,0,'','27ubs4gx',0,0,'u_757','',0),(5433,0,757,0,'205.188.116.136',1102898074,1,1,1,0,'Re: Parsons Cable Plow','John, my address is 16285 Austin Rd Locust NC 28097.  My email address is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:burnettel3@aol.com\">burnettel3@aol.com</a><!-- e -->.  I also have a work email address which is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:bburnette@polymers-center.org\">bburnette@polymers-center.org</a><!-- e -->.  My phone # is 704-485-3175. I know you didn\'t ask for all of this but I am just covering all the bases.  I check my work email every morning through the week and my home email every night.   Thanks, Brandon','',0,0,'','3q0wx07e',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5434,0,5,0,'216.166.192.65',1102735407,1,1,1,0,'oliver 88','What year is the 88? I have a fellow that wants a \'52 88 real bad. How much?? Thanks.                            Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','v15n82zg',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5435,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1102903884,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','ive got a 52 that is a well used tractor narrow front\r\n\r\nfor 1200\r\n\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','3f6u1d61',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5436,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1102903884,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','ive got a 52 that is a well used tractor narrow front\r\n\r\nfor 1200\r\n\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','3f6u1d61',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5437,0,5,0,'216.166.192.33',1102910551,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','I\'ll try to find the guy and have him get with you. You are in New Windsor, IL., right?            oleblu','',0,0,'','r6dc8jeb',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5439,0,18,0,'70.69.122.128',1102835784,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA Forum access','Hello Chris,\r\nThis is Paul Stanley \"Super 55\". My membership number is 10006543. I would like access to the HPOCA forum please. <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','3orj0cd3',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5440,0,5,0,'216.166.192.33',1102910689,1,1,1,0,'Back issues','Chris, I haven\'t recieved my back issues yet. Have you sent them? Did you get my check?  Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','1nq1dnvx',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5441,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.146',1102911426,1,1,1,1,'Re: Back issues','Jim,\r\n\r\nWe got your order, and are planning on mailing several orders out tomorrow. \r\n\r\nI apologize for the delay. I don\'t like making excuses, but things have been a little hectic here for the last few weeks. \r\n\r\nSee you in Moline!!!','',0,0,'','2nhm6f0l',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5442,0,737,0,'69.40.42.190',1102678298,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Thanks for help,sorry for late reply. Ispoke with Randy,his head is for later model with pencil type injectors,wont work on mine.I have the old style with the big injectors that bolt onto side of head.The guys in Iowa have one for $850,to pricey right now.','',0,0,'','2flt89rm',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5443,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1102988799,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Hi Whats wrong with your head? I can probably get you an old style one for 500.00  You can use the new style you know, ya just have to change the lines and a few small things Let me know  Bob Cook','',0,0,'','1fn9ksja',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5444,0,5,0,'216.166.192.33',1102910551,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','I\'ll try to find the guy and have him get with you. You are in New Windsor, IL., right?            oleblu','',0,0,'','1b4xouov',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5445,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1102996088,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','the tractors are in orion, IL.\r\n\r\nabout 20 minutes from here\r\n\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','13j84585',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5448,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1102996088,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','the tractors are in orion, IL.\r\n\r\nabout 20 minutes from here\r\n\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','13j84585',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5449,0,5,0,'216.166.193.204',1102999948,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','Tell me more about the 88. Is it all fixed up or does it need some TLC? What does it need? How are the tires, engine, hydraulics, tinwork, etc?? Thanks. Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','avb9hklj',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5450,0,5,0,'216.166.193.204',1102999730,1,1,1,0,'Re: Back issues','Chris, not a problem. Thanks   Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','3h87joms',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5451,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.46',1103000239,1,1,1,1,'Re: Back issues','Jim,\r\n\r\nBecky searched, but couldn\'t find your latest order, and we don\'t remember receiving it. It looks as though you may have to send it again. \r\n\r\nWhen did you send it in? We\'ll look again, but it could be the USPS got it.\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\n\r\nChris','',0,0,'','3f0va8mq',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5452,0,10611,0,'209.153.131.46',1103000787,1,1,1,1,'Re: Back issues','We just checked the previous time we sent out back issues, and can\'t find anything there. Becky has a list of checks that we sent into Sparky, and yours isn\'t on the list. It\'s looking like we never go it. There was another order that never got to us around the same time. \r\n\r\nI hope the check hasn\'t gone through, because we don\'t have it here. Can you send us a new one? I\'m sorry about this. We sure have learned alot about the USPS since we took over this job. <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->','',0,0,'','3v72ubha',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5453,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1102988799,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Hi Whats wrong with your head? I can probably get you an old style one for 500.00  You can use the new style you know, ya just have to change the lines and a few small things Let me know  Bob Cook','',0,0,'','14ykh0he',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5457,0,5,0,'216.166.193.204',1102999948,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','Tell me more about the 88. Is it all fixed up or does it need some TLC? What does it need? How are the tires, engine, hydraulics, tinwork, etc?? Thanks. Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','v2rk4iyc',0,0,'u_419','',0),(5458,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1103081991,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','It runs good and the tin work and everything needs tlc it was a chore tractor so that kind of explains most of it. I do have some tin work for it but it didnt come with the tractor so it will cost more. <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','5hrj19x6',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5459,0,5,0,'216.166.193.175',1103073096,1,1,1,0,'Back issues','Chris, I looked in my sent messages ( I wasn\'t even aware they were saved without checking a box or something) and found the message sent to you on Oct. 31. When I looked in my checkbook, the check was written on Nov. 4 (probably sent the same day). I didn\'t get a chance today to call the credit union to see if the check had been run yet, but I will. Tomorrow I will send you another check and list of magazines. Thank you.  Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','39ven2ab',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5460,0,10611,0,'209.153.159.167',1103109229,1,1,1,1,'Re: Back issues','I had checked for when you sent that message as well, and saw it was the 31st of Oct. We mailed out a large group of back issues just before we went to the Woodard Auction, and Becky double checked the list of who we sent to, and you weren\'t on it. We looked to see if we had mis-placed it somehow, but couldn\'t find it either. \r\n\r\nLet me know what the Credit Union tells you, and sorry for the mdelay.','',0,0,'','3ptq39fv',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5461,0,419,0,'207.144.213.59',1103081991,1,1,1,0,'Re: oliver 88','It runs good and the tin work and everything needs tlc it was a chore tractor so that kind of explains most of it. I do have some tin work for it but it didnt come with the tractor so it will cost more. <!-- s:( --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif\" alt=\":(\" title=\"Sad\" /><!-- s:( -->\r\n\r\nmike','',0,0,'','1o3go5dv',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5465,0,737,0,'69.40.49.80',1103197585,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Hi Bob, my head is cracked between all the valve ports but one, same way on injector ports. When I purchased the tractor it ran fine, but it pushed water out of overflow.  We determined head gasket blown, had head surfaced, shop showed me cracks,  to bad to repair so 3 shops said.  We installed head anyway, tractor ran with a skip, tested injectors, water poured out from #1 hole, installed block seal to try and correct this.  Motor started knocking afterwards, bad knock.  Pulled behind shop &amp; quit. My Oliver mech. said bolt pattern on new style head was different, plus intake is different, any help is appreciated, tractor to good to junk, plus to many $ in already.','',0,0,'','s9q1vthg',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5466,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1103247257,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Do you want me to hunt up a good used one for you. Can probably get ya one for 500  Let me  know  Bob','',0,0,'','2b8u18sy',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5467,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1103247257,1,1,1,0,'Re: head brothers','Do you want me to hunt up a good used one for you. Can probably get ya one for 500  Let me  know  Bob','',0,0,'','2b8u18sy',0,0,'u_737','',0),(5468,0,489,0,'209.7.140.18',1103204823,1,1,1,0,'1655 toy','Randy,\r\nI\'m at work and wanted to email you. I am interested in the toy but wondered when would be a good time to get with you.\r\nWe are going to keep it for Lindsay for christmas. \r\nIs there a chance we can drive up there on friday night after work.\r\nGive me a call if you get this soon, or I will call later.\r\nBrad','',0,0,'','22iowf59',0,0,'u_144','',0),(5472,0,757,0,'205.188.116.136',1103420110,1,1,1,0,'parsons cable plow','Hello John,  It\'s me again.  I looked fo the serial numbers for the tractor (Parson\'s cable plow / oliver 1950 4x4)but the plate is missing off the dash.  Is there anywhere else they could be?  Also I know it has a 4 cyl detriot diesel but would you know what size/series it is?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks, Brandon.','',0,0,'','n0fmcohz',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5473,0,96,0,'216.201.29.164',1103421418,1,1,1,0,'Re: parsons cable plow','The engine is a 4-53 Detoit. It is an N series engine. I need to think about some of the changes they made on the tractor maybe we can figgure out close to when the tractor was built.','',0,0,'','wj9qm0qq',0,0,'u_757','',0),(5474,0,763,0,'208.35.87.145',1103430372,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','2255TR is the username for Roell HPOCA member # 7410 email of <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oliverpuller@yahoo.com\">oliverpuller@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'','o406za24',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5477,0,763,0,'208.35.87.145',1103430372,1,1,1,0,'HPOCA forum','2255TR is the username for Roell HPOCA member # 7410 email of <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:oliverpuller@yahoo.com\">oliverpuller@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'','o406za24',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5484,0,722,0,'12.214.3.141',1103683218,1,1,1,0,'Olvier bearings','John,\r\nMy phone number is 256-216-5837. I live in North Alabama.  I\'m sorry, but I got confused. Do you want me to send a PM to Chris also?  \r\n\r\nI\'m going to call a few places around here to see if they can get the bearings as a back up.  Thanks again for your help!\r\n\r\nKenny','',0,0,'','7we9aavy',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5490,0,40,0,'64.12.116.136',1103804318,1,1,1,0,'New Era In the HPOCA','John:\r\n\r\nAs I posted on the Antique Tractors Board, congratulations on your election.  I hope those guys meant it when they advised you that you had won.\r\n\r\nIn August you asked if I would be interested in getting involved.  I would be very interested in helping you if I can.\r\n\r\nI really am concerned about the clubs involvement in the museum.  I just don\'t know if it will work.  One thing about being in South Bend that I\'m concerned about is the fact the club will have to listen to what the Oliver family relatives want to do.  You have to remember that they are the ones that sold the company to White. \r\n\r\nI really hope the by-laws in their current revised form don\'t pass.  I say this although I think in the most part they are good revisions.  It would take just a few tweaks to make them a whole lot better in my mind.\r\n\r\nHell, I suppose you\'ll be able to get my brother Duane to help also if you are looking for more assistance. <!-- s:P --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":P\" title=\"Razz\" /><!-- s:P --> \r\n\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','3736g2mi',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5492,0,12,0,'69.128.203.70',1103805729,1,1,1,0,'Re: New Era In the HPOCA','Hi Bill,\r\n\r\nSparky Duroe was the person that called and gave me the vote totals. I did not write them down but they were as follows: Myself 200+, Terry 100+ and Dean 50+. Even though more votes might come in, he thought the results would not change. \r\n\r\nI forgot to ask about the by-laws vote, but he told Chris Losey that they had passed by a \"considerable margin\". I called Sparky back to get the numbers but he as yet to return my call.\r\n\r\nMy stand on the HPO and the museum is that HPO has been set up as a separate entity from the HPOCA and as far as monetary and legal issues that should stay that way. I have no problem with the HPOCA supporting the museum project, I would like to see a museum. No one has seen the by-laws for the HPO, I\'m not sure there are any yet. That makes it hard to know what kind of relationship has been set up between the two organizations.\r\n\r\nBill we need to get together and talk, on the phone or in person. After Christmas, let\'s do that.\r\n\r\nThanks again for your support. Merry Christmas, John.','',0,0,'','3dnakggs',0,0,'u_40','',0),(5495,0,722,0,'12.214.3.141',1103829199,1,1,1,0,'Bearings','John,\r\nGot your message last night. My wife and I went to some Christmas shows at the Opryland Hotel in Nashville.  Sorry I missed you.\r\n\r\nI just got back from the shop and the guy said he can\'t get the MS194P bearings from Clevite.  He said all that he can find are standard and 010. \r\n\r\nHe also gave me a P/N for F-M, 568M.020, but he said his supplier can\'t get them either.  \r\n\r\nHe said my best shot would be to find some old stock some where, but I haven\'t had any luck around here.  Any suggestions?\r\n\r\nMerr Christmas!\r\nKenny','',0,0,'','1mjj7y41',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5496,0,96,0,'216.201.29.6',1103829700,1,1,1,0,'Re: Bearings','Let me make a call next week. The set is $260.00 more or less','',0,0,'','2ykeshkf',0,0,'u_722','',0),(5498,0,65,0,'209.240.113.180',1103836233,1,1,1,0,'congrates!','I see in YT that you have got some work cut out for yourself ! Congrates on your new endevor . We are hoping it puts scrapping to rest and leads to a more interactive web site and club. Thanks for stepping up and good luck! Grant <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'','zejde41v',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5499,0,18,0,'70.69.122.128',1103779835,1,1,1,0,'Would like access to the HPOCA forum','My name is Paul Stanley and my membership number is 10006543','',0,0,'','3mdhjnyn',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5500,0,65,0,'209.240.113.180',1103836233,1,1,1,0,'congrates!','I see in YT that you have got some work cut out for yourself ! Congrates on your new endevor . We are hoping it puts scrapping to rest and leads to a more interactive web site and club. Thanks for stepping up and good luck! Grant <!-- s:lol: --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" title=\"Laughing\" /><!-- s:lol: -->','',0,0,'','qi0lumhn',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5501,0,12,0,'69.128.203.70',1103860006,1,1,1,0,'Re: congrates!','Thanks Grant.\r\n\r\n I know it\'s going to be a big job but I\'m enthused by all the positives I\'ve heard from the members. \r\n\r\nMerry Christmas and Happy New Year!\r\nJohn','',0,0,'','119fqjyu',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5503,0,765,0,'207.69.137.21',1103863262,1,0,1,0,'Baldwin Lima Hamilton Engines','<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:cobroller@earthlink.net\">cobroller@earthlink.net</a><!-- e -->\r\nI hope I\'ve figured out how to find you and post a private message. What would you like to discuss about these engines?','',0,0,'','3v2y104e',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5504,0,96,0,'216.201.29.160',1103902997,1,1,1,0,'Re: Baldwin Lima Hamilton Engines','I tried to e-mail you and it did not go through. Send me something at: <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:aschwieb@bright.net\">aschwieb@bright.net</a><!-- e -->\r\nMerry Christmas John','',0,0,'','8nuevz8j',0,0,'u_765','',0),(5508,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1103935743,1,1,1,0,'Re: udlx','I\'m glad your wife is doing much better.  Those home care nurses have an awesome job and get paid well for it. My older brother Fast Eddie was a nurse for Johns Hopkins nuerology(did i spell that right) floor.  You wouldn\'t know it meeting him!  He now works for Hoover, coordinating doctors visits for people on workmans comp. Works at home except when traveling to visit patients and doctors, gets paid very well....and sooo thats what a college education will do for ya!!!\r\n\r\n        I\'ve been away from the computer for a while....been busy....where\'s that snow at. Don\'t hog it all up out there! I need a break!\r\n\r\nDanny\r\n\r\nI hope everybody makes it home for Christmas  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','2oq1t3y7',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5515,0,122,0,'65.117.137.168',1104067040,1,1,1,0,'Forum access','Bozay   Member #3711','',0,0,'','1e4wi6u5',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5517,0,722,0,'12.214.3.141',1104184027,1,1,1,0,'Re: Bearings','John,\r\nI found a set for $75 locally.  Haven\'t got them in my hands yet so I don\'t want to get too excited.  If it doesn\'t work out I\'ll let you know. Thanks for your help!\r\n\r\nKenny','',0,0,'','nw5o59rz',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5518,0,122,0,'65.117.137.168',1104067040,1,1,1,0,'Forum access','Bozay   Member #3711','',0,0,'','1d1for3i',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5521,0,12,0,'69.128.201.205',1104291681,1,1,1,0,'Promotion and Publicity','Hi Marc,\r\n\r\nI hope you and your family had a good Christmas. Ours was good although it was cold and snowy.\r\n\r\nIt looks like I have won the election for president for HPOCA. I just wanted to check in with you and see what was going on with P&amp;P? \r\n\r\nI had a few things on my mind about upcoming events. I guess the National farm machinery at Louisville is the first thing up. I wondered about our inventory of merchandise to sell at the show. Who is in charge of setting up the booth? Let me know if you have any details.\r\n\r\nI would like to call you some time and just get acquainted if that\'s OK. I\'ll need your number and the best time to call.\r\n\r\nHope to hear from you soon. Happy New Year, John Hume.','',0,0,'','tfvv29g6',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5522,0,96,0,'216.201.29.89',1104373605,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 bearing check','I think I will be home tomorrow evening. I will try to call you. WFE and I like those 310 engines. Or should I just make you a list os some items that I would also check? Have a happy New Year. John','',0,0,'','3jepi8b2',0,0,'u_628','',0),(5523,0,96,0,'216.201.29.89',1104373685,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1755 bearing check','Randy: I just see that I kept your address but not your phone number.','',0,0,'','jij6f2rw',0,0,'u_628','',0),(5524,0,96,0,'216.201.29.89',1104373759,1,1,1,0,'Re: WFE here','Hey maybe you and I should develop a check list for those 310 engines! Have a Happry and good 2005. John','',0,0,'','7wqu8n6y',0,0,'u_635','',0),(5526,0,459,0,'67.250.226.31',1104376974,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','John:\r\n\r\nCongratulations on your election for president. I look forward to working with you and the rest of the board if you want me to stay on. So far in the last month and a half that I have been director of P &amp; P I have placed 2 free ads for our national summer show in WI in 2 of the big show directories. I have also placed 1/4 page display ads in the 2 publications to try to get new HPOCA members. \r\n\r\nI have been working closely with Chris &amp; Becky Losey on some items that will come out in the Jan/Feb 2005 issue that we should see next week. I was out in MI for Thanksgiving weekend for my sister-in-law\'s wedding and I spent several hours with Chris &amp; Becky on the Friday after Thanksgiving. \r\n\r\nI also been up to Charles City a couple of times to visit with Mary Ann Townsend and her people. I wanted to see what they had for HPOCA inventory. Some of the HPOCA items that were in the Nov/Dec 2004 magazine are no longer available so I had Chris take them ouit of the Jan/Feb issue and off the HPOCA Web store. I am working on coming up with some new things for the HPOCA to sell. I plan to have some things ready for the Moline winter show at the end of Feb.\r\n\r\nI don\'t know much about the Louisville Farm Show. I talked to Terry Allen on Dec. 20. It sounds like he was planning on bringing the trailer down for it. That is about all I know. At this point I don\'t know if I will be able to make it or not. My wife Sue &amp; I plan to be at Moline for the whole event. Terry sent me an inventory that he did of the items in the trailer around Dec 1. It looks like it is pretty well stocked. Should be enough to get through the Louisville show.\r\n\r\nI would welcome your call so I can share more with you what I am doing. For me personally it didn\'t matter who got to be President. I feel I will be able to work as well with you as I have with Terry. My goal is to start growing this organization again. There was a time when we had over 6200 members and now we are down to some over 5700. We need to get those 500 back or replace them with new people and then start growing. I would like to see us at 10,000 in the next 4 years or so. If we could get there there are many costs that would go down. Like the cost per copy of the magazine.\r\n\r\nAs I said earlier, I look forward to working with you if you want me to continue in this position. My home phone number is 319-988-4319. We have our machine on at all times. Just start talking, if I am here I will pick up. I am in and out all day. Probably the best time to reach me would be after 7 pm. I am out in Iowa and we are in the central time zone.\r\n\r\nLook forward to hearing from you!\r\n\r\n--Marc Sletten--','',0,0,'','21i2iyrz',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5531,0,459,0,'67.250.226.31',1104376974,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','John:\r\n\r\nCongratulations on your election for president. I look forward to working with you and the rest of the board if you want me to stay on. So far in the last month and a half that I have been director of P &amp; P I have placed 2 free ads for our national summer show in WI in 2 of the big show directories. I have also placed 1/4 page display ads in the 2 publications to try to get new HPOCA members. \r\n\r\nI have been working closely with Chris &amp; Becky Losey on some items that will come out in the Jan/Feb 2005 issue that we should see next week. I was out in MI for Thanksgiving weekend for my sister-in-law\'s wedding and I spent several hours with Chris &amp; Becky on the Friday after Thanksgiving. \r\n\r\nI also been up to Charles City a couple of times to visit with Mary Ann Townsend and her people. I wanted to see what they had for HPOCA inventory. Some of the HPOCA items that were in the Nov/Dec 2004 magazine are no longer available so I had Chris take them ouit of the Jan/Feb issue and off the HPOCA Web store. I am working on coming up with some new things for the HPOCA to sell. I plan to have some things ready for the Moline winter show at the end of Feb.\r\n\r\nI don\'t know much about the Louisville Farm Show. I talked to Terry Allen on Dec. 20. It sounds like he was planning on bringing the trailer down for it. That is about all I know. At this point I don\'t know if I will be able to make it or not. My wife Sue &amp; I plan to be at Moline for the whole event. Terry sent me an inventory that he did of the items in the trailer around Dec 1. It looks like it is pretty well stocked. Should be enough to get through the Louisville show.\r\n\r\nI would welcome your call so I can share more with you what I am doing. For me personally it didn\'t matter who got to be President. I feel I will be able to work as well with you as I have with Terry. My goal is to start growing this organization again. There was a time when we had over 6200 members and now we are down to some over 5700. We need to get those 500 back or replace them with new people and then start growing. I would like to see us at 10,000 in the next 4 years or so. If we could get there there are many costs that would go down. Like the cost per copy of the magazine.\r\n\r\nAs I said earlier, I look forward to working with you if you want me to continue in this position. My home phone number is 319-988-4319. We have our machine on at all times. Just start talking, if I am here I will pick up. I am in and out all day. Probably the best time to reach me would be after 7 pm. I am out in Iowa and we are in the central time zone.\r\n\r\nLook forward to hearing from you!\r\n\r\n--Marc Sletten--','',0,0,'','21i2iyrz',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5532,0,12,0,'69.128.201.205',1104398796,1,1,1,0,'Re: Promotion and Publicity','Hi Marc,\r\n\r\nIt sounds like you have a good handle on what\'s going on. I talked to Sparky Duroe Last night and he said you were really enthused about getting things done, that\'s GREAT!!!\r\n\r\nI have no intention to replace you in your position. \r\n\r\nI just wanted to check with you and make sure we are all on the same page about things. I didn\'t want people to show up at Louisville and the trailer not be there or there not be merchandise to sell, ect. I learned a long time ago that you should never assume anything!\r\n\r\nThanks for your hard work, expect a call soon. John.','',0,0,'','23bacb3s',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5533,0,628,0,'207.177.83.106',1104390667,1,1,1,0,'1755 rebuild from YT oliver forum','Hi john , I finally found a mechanic I could trust and he passed away right after he got my tractor torn down . Now I have a Deere mechanic that admits he doesn\'t know a lot about waukeshaw engines doing the rebuild . He\'s worked on larger waukeshaw truck engines but not on tractor engines . \r\nWhat are a few tip\'s I can relate to him to help things along ? Rod bolts , sleeve protrusion and head bolt torque have been addressed on the forum . I was convinced to not hot tank the block unless the cam bearing\'s spec out bad , then they\'ll need replaced anyway . But is steam cleaning it OK? Not just hot water but an actual 212+ degree high pressure-0 pressure wash ?\r\nHoward\'s is the place I was looking for . The people that are grinding the crank mentioned them but didn\'t know where they were . Is valu-built not very good or are they just too expensive ? Is there someplace outside of Iowa that has good parts but might be fairly close so I could save some cash by not paying  sales taxes in Iowa ? What about Larry from Wisconsin in the first reply ? Have you dealt with him before ? \r\nMy e-mail -     <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:cjrw57@butler-bremer.com\">cjrw57@butler-bremer.com</a><!-- e -->\r\nAny hints or words of advice will be appreciated . Thanks and take care . Randy','',0,0,'','337lpsok',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5534,0,628,0,'207.177.83.106',1104391384,1,1,1,0,'1755 rebuild','Hi John , My phone # is 319-290-2522 . It\'s my cell phone . If you could send a list it would help alot . My memory is way beyond bad .  My email again is \r\n<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:cjrw57@butler-bremer.com\">cjrw57@butler-bremer.com</a><!-- e -->     Thanks ......Randy','',0,0,'','2cap4sqt',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5535,0,163,0,'207.177.76.249',1104413902,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','I tried to send you pics of my 1750 special.  Please let me know if they came thru - if not I will try again.\r\nDuane Brandt','',0,0,'','2ta4mcda',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5538,0,163,0,'207.177.76.249',1104413902,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','I tried to send you pics of my 1750 special.  Please let me know if they came thru - if not I will try again.\r\nDuane Brandt','',0,0,'','2ta4mcda',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5539,0,459,0,'67.250.226.70',1104426964,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Duane:\r\n\r\nThanks for the pictures. I got 4 of them. The calendar committee is meeting on Sunday to pick the pictures for the 2006 calendar. Once they decide on which tractors are in the calendar, I will get back to you for more information about the tractor.\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\n\r\n--Marc Sletten--','',0,0,'','2vbsmuyq',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5542,0,459,0,'67.250.226.70',1104426964,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1750 Special','Duane:\r\n\r\nThanks for the pictures. I got 4 of them. The calendar committee is meeting on Sunday to pick the pictures for the 2006 calendar. Once they decide on which tractors are in the calendar, I will get back to you for more information about the tractor.\r\n\r\nThanks!\r\n\r\n--Marc Sletten--','',0,0,'','2vbsmuyq',0,0,'u_163','',0),(5545,0,764,0,'63.159.204.61',1104541184,1,1,1,1,'SOME KIND OF 99','HI  HAVE BEEN READING YOUR POSTS HERE AND THERE AND SURE ENJOY READING SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.THANKS MUCH   NOW THAT THAT IS OVER, WONDER IF YOU GOOD HELP ME IDENTIFY A OLIVER I BOUGHT,AM GOING TO MAKE A ANTIQUE PULLER OUT OF IT. WHEN I BOUGHT IT IT WAS SURPOSED TO BE A SUPER 99.AFTER A COUPLE E MAILS LARRY HARSIN SAID IT IS A 99 .WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY BUT HE JUST SAID IT WAS AND THAT WAS THAT    WHAT IS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE 99?  MINE HAS 18-26 REARS AND 4SPEED TRANS WITH BELT PULLEY ON RT SIDE OVER TRANS. ENGINE TUB CASTING #7A500.OLIVER BOOK I HAVE SAID EARLY SUPER 99 USED THE 4 SPEED TRANS LIKE THE 99 EXCEPT INPUT SHAFT USED CHAIN COUPLING  WHICH IS LIKE MY TRANS.IT WAS MISSING ENGINE AND CLUTCH COVER AND I GUESS THAT IS WHERE SER # WAS.  I AM GOING TO SOMEHOW PUT A 3-71 DETROIT IN IT BECAUSE THAT WAS WHY I BOUGHT IT.MY SON AND I PULL AT LOCAL PULLS AND FAIRS UP HERE IN N.H. WITH ACOUPLE JD A. NOBODY AROUND HERE WILL TELL ME ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY CANT STAND COMPETION.I OWN AND RUN A HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND TRUCK SHOP SO I SURE DO KNOW WHAT A DETROIT IS.I HAVE 4OR5 3-71 IN OLD HD7 DOZERS AND CAN MAKE A ENGINE I AM SURE .  GUESS I RAMBLED ON BUT DIDNT FEEL RIGHT JUST ASKING WHAT I WANTED AND RUN AWAY!  GUESS QUESTION HOW DO YOU TELL WHAT IT IS? THANKS MUCH AND EVEN MORE IF YOU CAN SHED LIGHT ON THIS NIGHTMARE  THANKS DON YOUNG','',0,0,'','1j5307nz',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5547,0,765,0,'207.69.137.43',1104644823,1,1,1,0,'B L H Engines','I sent a couple of e-mails about the engines. Don\'t know if you recieved them. The engines also had the biggest intake and exhaust valves I have ever personally seen, at least three inch head diameter one inch stems and were at least a foot long. On another subject I\'m almost sure that one of the LCMs we carried had a reversing gear on at least one of the engines had a tag on it that said it was built by the Oliver Corp. Its been a long time so my memory may be playing tricks on me. The LCMs were built during or shortly after WWII.','',0,0,'','2mpzm8rc',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5548,0,96,0,'216.201.29.114',1104687699,1,1,1,0,'Re: SOME KIND OF 99','You have kind of a rare 99. It is not a Super. In 1953 &amp; 54 the 99 tractors built were euqipped with the new Waukesha 302 cubic inch six cylinder engines. The 99 tractors made up to this time were built with a 4 cylinder engine that the basic version had been in production since 1930. In 1955 the Super 99 was introduced with a six speed transmission similar to the rowcrop tractors of the time. Send me a phone number and a U. S. mail address and I will send you more information. What kind of truck work do you do? I used to go around the U. S. teaching auxilary power (PTO &amp; hydraulic classes. I have been to New England for this also. John','',0,0,'','2c95zdo4',0,0,'u_764','',0),(5551,0,764,0,'63.159.200.245',1104703184,1,1,1,1,'darn 99','thanks so much for info.if i get a 3-71 in it somehow will it pass as a super 99gm so i can pull antique class?or is there someother obvious difference? thanks again   donald young 519 bancroft hwy litchfield n.h. 03052   603 345 3833 my cell#should find me better than house phone.     most any truck work one time or another  right now kind of one man show  also move houses  have 1960 autocar all set up to pull them     you would like to see our hydralic unit in operation  12 15ton jacks all go up unified   for now don   just got called by state to go salt highway   sleet and freezing rain out now   would look foward to talking to you whenever','',0,0,'','28u0vxia',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5553,0,12,0,'69.128.201.205',1104762295,1,1,1,0,'New president','Hey Andy,\r\n\r\nThanks for your advice and encouragement of other members to pitch in.  \r\n\r\nThe Louisville farm show was the first thing on my list as needed to be done. I\'ve already contacted Marc Sletten about merchandise for the trailer. He said Terry had sent him an inventory list and it looked like we had a good supply. He also said Terry is planning on bringing the trailer to Louisville.\r\n\r\nTerry had e-mailed me and I replied and asked about the procedure for Louisville. I haven\'t heard back from him yet, I guess I\'ll have to call him.\r\n\r\nAre you willing to serve as a Service Officer? With your knowledge of Robert\'s I thought you would be the perfect Parliamentarian. Think about it and let me know.\r\n\r\nThanks again for your help, talk to you soon. John.','',0,0,'','28vdjn32',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5554,0,5,0,'216.166.192.87',1104804144,1,1,1,0,'election results','Hi, Andy. In your post about the election you stated you had some thoughts as to why the numbers were up 2 years ago. I just wondered if you would share them with me. I would also like any thought as to why the numbers are so low. I can\'t believe that less than 10 % of the members would vote. Why, why, why???   oleblu','',0,0,'','jzffvwhu',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5557,0,43,0,'158.247.216.15',1104870593,1,1,1,0,'Cletrac/Hercules parts','John,\r\nDo you know where I can find a manifold for an AG Cletrac with an OOC Hercules engine? Zimmerman\'s doesn\'t have one or know where one is.\r\nThanks,\r\nGeoffrey Heck','',0,0,'','3pirsd1m',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5559,0,2,0,'209.153.156.174',1094260527,1,1,1,0,'magizine','the magizine is great[quote][/quote]','',0,0,'','1lupst1h',0,0,'u_2','',0),(5561,0,772,0,'64.33.182.36',1104999246,1,1,1,0,'1855 Oliver block','Hello John,  Your email did not come through. I hate putting address up on web cause it seems like I get all kinds of unwanted stuff when I do.  \r\n But here goes address-  <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:butterflies@grantsburgtelcom.net\">butterflies@grantsburgtelcom.net</a><!-- e -->  -this should have gotten you through at least into postine box at our internet provider here.  \r\n Phone number is 715 689 2433 .  \r\n Sometimes its hard to get hold of me and other times I am around.  Today, well yesterday I had to do some running around cause of a bladder tank sprung a leak and dumped water out of outdoor wood stove. Which in turn got seriously hot, (temp gauge at 280) so had to get that under control and limped the outfit through the night till I could get parts yesterday. then got it back together and baby sat it again to see if controls were functioning right. Heat has a wicked sense of humor with some controls. Pressure gauge shows 5# more and the temp is 8 degrees off. The aqua stats had to be readjusted too.\r\n Back to my \'55, The engine has been apart now for several years in an old shed. I had put the head in a plastic bag but that plastic deteriorated. Turbo had been set up out of the way and I see the coons had to much fun by it and got knocked down. I had also layed plastic over the block and placed valve cover over it. Dirty birds turned stuff white.  At least the injector lines are still capped.\r\n I talked to my nephew about putting the tractor inside his shop where it could get warmed up and get started working and cleaning on it.  \r\nI remember saying I bought it in like \'79 but it could have been later, Specially if the numbers on the block 9184 were the month, day and year the block was casted. The seller said it was a fresh overhauled engine with the beefed up heavier block in it. And I took his word for that. \r\n I plan on having the head pressure checked just in case it cracked, but I dont remember if I had heard a metal ping when it had let loose with antifreeze out the exhaust. You asked if I had the old head gasket yet, I think it was hard to get off and got torn, but I will look for it.\r\n Thanks for the words of encouragement with this tractor, Jerry','',0,0,'','1khhiv4d',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5564,0,297,0,'68.79.164.171',1105238215,1,1,1,0,'join HPOCA user group','Name: Campbell, Ian C.\r\nMember number:1414 (and if I hadn\'t procrastinated after Don Woods asked me to join, it probably would have been under 500).\r\nThanks Chris.','',0,0,'','1bocmj98',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5566,0,465,0,'4.225.93.16',1105309357,1,1,1,1,'Committees','John,\r\n\r\n If you are looking for any volunteers for committees, I would love to help on the bylaws committee. \r\n  I would like the opportunity to try to change the way bylaws are voted on and to do away with vindictive bylaws passed by the previous administration\r\n\r\n  Keith M.','',0,0,'','3vgwi9d2',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5568,0,465,0,'4.225.93.16',1105309357,1,1,1,1,'Committees','John,\r\n\r\n If you are looking for any volunteers for committees, I would love to help on the bylaws committee. \r\n  I would like the opportunity to try to change the way bylaws are voted on and to do away with vindictive bylaws passed by the previous administration\r\n\r\n  Keith M.','',0,0,'','3vgwi9d2',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5569,0,12,0,'69.128.205.188',1105372354,1,1,1,0,'Re: Committees','Hi Keith,\r\n\r\nI hope you\'re doing well, I hadn\'t heard much from you.\r\n\r\nAs far as the by-laws go, it really hasn\'t been determined if they have passed or not. Andy Blackwood called over the weekend and asked what the vote totals were. There has to be a 2/3 majority for them to pass. I\'m trying to find out the numbers this morning but have not got them yet.\r\n\r\nI\'ll keep you updated on what\'s going on. John.','',0,0,'','28p0atls',0,0,'u_465','',0),(5571,0,12,0,'69.128.205.188',1105415043,1,1,1,0,'Hart Parr 70 air cleaner','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nDid I see on YT where you were looking for an air cleaner for a 70? I may have what you need. I have both the one for a Hart-Parr and one for the newer styled front end. Let me know if I can help. John.','',0,0,'','2wjkp7uj',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5573,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1105479857,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hart Parr 70 air cleaner','Hi John,\r\nYep, I\'m needing the cap and screen that sticks out of the top of the hood on a Oliver/HartParr 70. 1937 year. If you have the whole aircleaner and don\'t want to sell just the cap, I\'ll take it all. \r\nI\'ve hade 3 replys, but no one will return my e-mail and I think they have mistook  the ad for a styled 70.\r\nThanx                                                         Larry\r\nPS\r\nJust read your post here. I \'m glad you checked up on the totals. Still can\'t figure out why so many favored them though.','',0,0,'','3vtgi3z7',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5575,0,731,0,'204.181.84.202',1105503734,1,1,1,0,'Hello from Iowa!','I see you and I are both on the HPOCA website right now. I read your two posts and I think the fact the you have a pasture with Hart-Parrs in it is just down right neat!  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> We farm with Oliver and White tractors and have an Oliver and Hart-parr collection. Our oldest is a 1929 Hart-Parr 12-24 and an 18-28 that are restored. We also have a 1929 Cletrac model K20. We have Oliver 80\'s, 60\'s on up to the newer Olivers. Any idea what model the two cylinder Hart-Parrs are that you have? Most of our Oliver tractors are standard models. I like these because everything in eastern Iowa was always row crop tractors and the standards were never seen or heard of, so they are different for our area. Most of ours came out of Canada. Would like to visit with you about your pasture. I bet you have some \"hand me down\" stories about the dealership. Hope to talk to you again.-Kenny Grimm','',0,0,'','1dalbjcp',0,0,'u_775','',0),(5576,0,96,0,'216.201.29.38',1105549357,1,1,1,0,'750/751 Cultivators.','We sold two of them. They were both mounted on 1750\'s. Try the museum for the manual. Questions?','',0,0,'','37luorp6',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5577,0,96,0,'216.201.29.38',1105549503,1,1,1,0,'18-27 Rowcrop','You have a serial number? No dual wheel models were made in 1930. Questions?','',0,0,'','37c9gjj4',0,0,'u_509','',0),(5578,0,731,0,'204.181.84.202',1105503734,1,1,1,0,'Hello from Iowa!','I see you and I are both on the HPOCA website right now. I read your two posts and I think the fact the you have a pasture with Hart-Parrs in it is just down right neat!  <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D --> We farm with Oliver and White tractors and have an Oliver and Hart-parr collection. Our oldest is a 1929 Hart-Parr 12-24 and an 18-28 that are restored. We also have a 1929 Cletrac model K20. We have Oliver 80\'s, 60\'s on up to the newer Olivers. Any idea what model the two cylinder Hart-Parrs are that you have? Most of our Oliver tractors are standard models. I like these because everything in eastern Iowa was always row crop tractors and the standards were never seen or heard of, so they are different for our area. Most of ours came out of Canada. Would like to visit with you about your pasture. I bet you have some \"hand me down\" stories about the dealership. Hope to talk to you again.-Kenny Grimm','',0,0,'','c1pmspcc',0,0,'u_775','',0),(5579,0,775,0,'24.224.3.54',1105552554,1,1,1,1,'Hart Parrs','Hello Kenny, I finally found a certificate/warrenty of one of the tractors. It\'s serial number is 21415. Looking on the list of serial #s it says it\'s a 1923 \'30\'. Is that right? I sure would like someone to tell me the worth of a radiator that I\'ll need---and where I may find one. I don\'t have a 28-50 but I used to know an old man around Larned with one. It was amazing--it was not restored but did not need to be. It wasn\'t showroom fresh but it had all it\'s original paint and would fire right up and run like a sewing machine. I have a 1932 sales brochure/booklet about the 18-32 rowcrop. \"Power on Tiptoe\" and calenders and posters. I wonder if they are valuable and should be shared with the Hart Parr community. I would like to send you email pictures or post them somhow. I could if I had you real email address ( I think). I gotta go. write me again so we could continue our visit. I want to hear about your farm. Thank you, Gary White','',0,0,'','1ogn7e82',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5582,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1105553233,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','Hi,\r\n\r\nThanks for the prompt response!  I wasn\'t expecting anything that fast!  \r\n\r\nSure, I have a couple of questions.  What I need to find out is how exactly these cultivators mount on the tractor.  Were there brackets that bolted onto the frame, that the cultivator mated up with?  If so, I don\'t have those.  Do you know if these cultivators worked okay?  Any problems to look out for, etc.?  How do I contact the museum for the manual?\r\n\r\nThanks in advance,\r\n\r\nPaul Maiewski','',0,0,'','22lu2uxu',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5583,0,775,0,'24.224.3.54',1105552554,1,1,1,1,'Hart Parrs','Hello Kenny, I finally found a certificate/warrenty of one of the tractors. It\'s serial number is 21415. Looking on the list of serial #s it says it\'s a 1923 \'30\'. Is that right? I sure would like someone to tell me the worth of a radiator that I\'ll need---and where I may find one. I don\'t have a 28-50 but I used to know an old man around Larned with one. It was amazing--it was not restored but did not need to be. It wasn\'t showroom fresh but it had all it\'s original paint and would fire right up and run like a sewing machine. I have a 1932 sales brochure/booklet about the 18-32 rowcrop. \"Power on Tiptoe\" and calenders and posters. I wonder if they are valuable and should be shared with the Hart Parr community. I would like to send you email pictures or post them somhow. I could if I had you real email address ( I think). I gotta go. write me again so we could continue our visit. I want to hear about your farm. Thank you, Gary White','',0,0,'','2sug6wgf',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5585,0,5,0,'216.166.192.87',1104804144,1,1,1,0,'election results','Hi, Andy. In your post about the election you stated you had some thoughts as to why the numbers were up 2 years ago. I just wondered if you would share them with me. I would also like any thought as to why the numbers are so low. I can\'t believe that less than 10 % of the members would vote. Why, why, why???   oleblu','',0,0,'','3ci3hout',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5586,0,47,0,'12.65.132.154',1105585226,1,1,1,0,'Re: election results','Hey Ole Blu,\r\nAre you going to Louisville? I think Sherry possibly could have knowledge of the high numbers, we can talk about that some time. All the fun and games are done and over. One thing I know is Terry would have no part of anything out of order! Nuf said!! Our numbers are right where they normally would be expected, nothing at all abnormal, in the context of past results. I am not the least bit concerned about that, the association is not structured where one should expect great participation, we only have a few that are very active.\r\nLater, Andy','',0,0,'','257qmtdi',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5587,0,47,0,'12.65.132.154',1105585835,1,1,1,0,'Re: New president','Hey John,\r\nOf course I will do whatever we need to do, in order to bring some sort of order and progress to our association. I will call you in the next day or so. It will be about a week before I can finish out the bylaws, and get them to Jerry, I\'ll send a copy to you, also. See if you can get the ratification date, I\'ll need that, as that is the effective date. If not I\'ll have to call it Dec. 31. The actual date is better. Talk to you later.\r\nHave a great day!!!1\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','mcp0nhgd',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5589,0,10611,0,'209.153.142.59',1105589449,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forum acces','Hello,\r\n\r\nBefore i can add you to the HPOCA forum users group, I need to verify you HPOCA membership. If you could send me your membership number and last name, I\'ll get you verified and added to the list.','',0,0,'','2kz8gswt',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5590,0,10611,0,'209.153.142.59',1105589468,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forums','Hello,\r\n\r\nBefore I can add you to the HPOCA forum users group, I need to verify your HPOCA membership. If you could send me your membership number and last name, I\'ll get you verified and added to the list.','',0,0,'','auj305y7',0,0,'u_474','',0),(5591,0,47,0,'12.64.140.61',1105592778,1,1,1,0,'Phone #\'s','Hey John,\r\nMary Ann Townsend\'s phone # is 641-228-5406.\r\nWayne Wiltsey\'s is 262-635-2558\r\nLet me phone you before calling Mary Ann, we need to get something together she would be likely to accept. We have one year left with McMillian.\r\nLater,\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','yk8pcoll',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5592,0,474,0,'216.170.153.139',1105593339,1,1,1,0,'join group','Joseph 10000037','',0,0,'','2fg5wc1j',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5593,0,474,0,'216.170.153.139',1105593339,1,1,1,0,'join group','Joseph 10000037','',0,0,'','2fg5wc1j',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5597,0,12,0,'69.128.204.179',1105618627,1,1,1,0,'Re: Phone #\'s','Hey Andy,\r\n\r\nThanks for the numbers. Terry thought we were on the last year with McMillen. I\'ll be in and out, so you\'ll just have to take your chances as when to call. \r\n\r\nI talked to Jim Kline, got good info from him. \r\n\r\nLater, John.','',0,0,'','375kirs0',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5599,0,96,0,'216.201.29.106',1105618727,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','I will have some infromation for you tonight.','',0,0,'','3qxcmrtr',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5600,0,5,0,'216.166.192.207',1105618864,1,1,1,0,'Re: election results','Andy, \r\n  No, I\'m not going to Louisville. With the Winter Get-together just weeks after, I decided Louisville would be out this year. Will you be in Moline? \r\n                                                                        Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','3fyqwuew',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5601,0,47,0,'12.65.18.57',1105620656,1,1,1,0,'Re: Phone #\'s','Hey John,\r\nYou can count on Jim, he is honest. He tells it the way he sees it, and doesn\'t care who\'s feelings it hurts. He is also loyal, if you are his friend, he will defend you, even sometimes, when you would rather do it yourself. But, he sometimes gets bullheaded, and it takes time to persuade him into taking different views. Overall, he is a good guy! One instance was allowing Sherry to advertise in our magazine, I had one heck of a time convincing him not to buck on that one. My view on that was take the advertising, just like anybody elses, and try to make some peace. Jim will hold a grudge, I\'ve been trying to convince him this benefits nobody. It is starting to sink in, but, it will take some time. He constantly is questioning me as to why nobody can make me mad, and get me to hold grudges. And I explain that I will not give anybody that sort of power over my life. He will eventually come around on that, but, I\'m not pushing the issue. It is better that he do it for himself, take his own time, thus he can pride himself on his decision.\r\n Peter will be harder to get in touch with, I do better with him during the day, on a weekday, while he is in his shop. He is notorious for playing phone tag.\r\n Bill Meeker is difficult at most any time, he farms alot, I guess about the same time as Jim would work best. Or you could ask Jim when is best. Jim and Bill are both only childs, they are alot like brothers, as neither have siblings. They talk on the phone about every day, so, whatever you would discuss with Jim will probably be discussed with Bill.\r\n I hope this info helps in some way!\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','3n6vhxto',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5602,0,5,0,'216.166.192.207',1105618864,1,1,1,0,'Re: election results','Andy, \r\n  No, I\'m not going to Louisville. With the Winter Get-together just weeks after, I decided Louisville would be out this year. Will you be in Moline? \r\n                                                                        Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','13emkfnk',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5606,0,47,0,'12.65.18.57',1105621526,1,1,1,0,'Re: election results','Hey Jim,\r\nYes, I will be in Moline, I would be willing to answer your questions there. I will be needing to go to Jack Wold\'s place to load a grain head, and I will be trying to find a 4 row corn planter, but that shouldn\'t take too much time, I might go look at a tractor too.\r\nDo you have any deals on 28\" tires? The kind that have short and long lugs. I\'m trying to get Dad to take the 26\" junk off his Massey, and go with 28\". He got those 26\" rims off some horse trader, he thought cheap, that is about what he got, cheap! Anyhow, I need to find some centers for a Massey 255, and give them to him, then he will probably buy tires and rims for them. That way I will be able to find some wheel weights that will bolt up. I think what he has now is for Kubota or some such thing. Who knows?\r\nHave a great day!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','165ixnf0',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5607,0,96,0,'216.201.29.136',1105626496,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','I would contact the Floyd County Museum. You can e-mail them at:fchs@fiai.net. They can help you with manuals. There telpehone number is: 641 228 1099 Hours are listed as 9 to 4 Central standard time. Questions?','',0,0,'','3te10oqp',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5611,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1105620958,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forum acces','My membership number is 10004432.  My name is Paul Maiewski.\r\n\r\nThanks','',0,0,'','2phy1q7u',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5613,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1105626786,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','Thanks for the reply.  I will call them today.  I guess my only question is, if you know anything about how good a piece of machinery these cultivators are.  Did the farmers that used them, like them?\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nPaul Maiewski','',0,0,'','2w0ap3ay',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5614,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1105630073,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','You were right, the musuem had both a parts and operators manuals!  Many Thanks!','',0,0,'','18ca8tyn',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5615,0,96,0,'216.201.29.108',1105646664,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','We sold both of them to the same farm. One was set up to cultivate potatoes, the other one for row crops. They were looking for a better pair about 10 years ago. They arrived o the scene 10 years too late. Most guys had six row rear mounts and then a lot of them had rolling cultivators. Now except for some of these vegetable farmers nobody that is young has ever learned to shapen his tractor driving skills by cultivating corn.','',0,0,'','18tf60wh',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5618,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1105651438,1,1,1,0,'Re: 750/751 Cultivators.','Well, I\'m planning on using mine for potatoes.  Thanks for the Museum tip, they the manuals for the 750.\r\n\r\nThanks again,\r\n\r\nPaul Maiewski','',0,0,'','3g68vfew',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5619,0,96,0,'216.201.29.121',1105666828,1,1,1,0,'Engine For A General.','Do you have a serial number for the tractor? I think the later generals used the IXK engine already? Where are you located? Have you talked to anyone in the Tru-Draft Club? Except for a water pump you can make your engine look just like the IXA or K. Your engine has replaceable sleeves which only the late engines had.','',0,0,'','1ntkzysc',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5624,0,777,0,'63.18.234.36',1105669575,1,1,1,1,'Re: Engine For A General.','John \r\n         Thank you for your response I went out and check the serial number it is 5FA334 .I live in Batesville IN.. NO I have not talk with any one in the true draft club.I am making this sort have to get off line.\r\n Steve Schantz','',0,0,'','bdizy90v',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5625,0,96,0,'216.201.29.209',1105706046,1,1,1,0,'Re: Engine For A General.','I will be out of town in fact I think more down your way. I need to help my son work on his house in Ciinciniti. Your tractor should have the IXK engine. I will check more when I get back monday. Do you have a parts book?','',0,0,'','30tejvm3',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5629,0,40,0,'205.188.116.136',1105827097,1,1,1,0,'Re: New Era In the HPOCA','John:\r\n\r\nI like your response to my post on the HPOCA Forum.  I realize that  some of the questions you\'d get would be wacko off the wall type and some would be better answered with a private message or e-mail.  I\'m pretty sure if you\'d explain why you did not answer the wacko ones and that you sent a private message on the other types most of the members would accept that.\r\n\r\nThe thing Terry did wrong was just shutting down his particpation at all on the website.  I\'m pretty sure some of the \"old guys\" on the board will be trying to get you stick with their way of doing business.  Which by the way, I think most of it was ok.  But I hope you will make them accept your ideas on most changes you want, especially about communicating with the members more than they have in the past.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','2oq7g9lb',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5630,0,40,0,'205.188.116.136',1105827097,1,1,1,0,'Re: New Era In the HPOCA','John:\r\n\r\nI like your response to my post on the HPOCA Forum.  I realize that  some of the questions you\'d get would be wacko off the wall type and some would be better answered with a private message or e-mail.  I\'m pretty sure if you\'d explain why you did not answer the wacko ones and that you sent a private message on the other types most of the members would accept that.\r\n\r\nThe thing Terry did wrong was just shutting down his particpation at all on the website.  I\'m pretty sure some of the \"old guys\" on the board will be trying to get you stick with their way of doing business.  Which by the way, I think most of it was ok.  But I hope you will make them accept your ideas on most changes you want, especially about communicating with the members more than they have in the past.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','2oq7g9lb',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5632,0,241,0,'4.224.138.163',1095210271,1,1,1,0,'access to forum','member # 87','',0,0,'','2jx1yen6',0,0,'u_241','',0),(5633,0,43,0,'158.247.216.27',1105750752,1,1,1,0,'Re: Cletrac/Hercules parts','John,\r\nI\'m doing fine except for all the ice we have here. It makes the walk to the garage a lot less desirable. This is the second week we have had ice, but it\'s nice to think I was at an auction on new year\'s day in short sleeves.\r\n\r\nI guess I\'m not going to need that manifold. The Cletrac was bought just before I went to buy it. Tough luck for me I guess. I\'ll get a Cletrac one of these days.\r\n\r\nOn another note, have you rebuilt many Oliver water pumps? I prefer to do all my own work like that, but I can\'t find one tool. I need to get the tool used to reface the sealing surface in the pump body. This was before the ceramic seals came along. Any ideas??\r\nthanks,\r\nGeoffrey','',0,0,'','3v3cmkbv',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5634,0,321,0,'205.231.145.136',1105887488,1,1,1,0,'Phone number from RickB','John, my number is 518-398-5216. Best time to call is 6-9 PM EST. Thursday 1/20 I will be out for sure.  If you prefer me to call you, PM me back with your number. \r\nNo rush, this project will drag out most of the winter, I am sure.\r\nThanks for the help, Rick','',0,0,'','1sarn43d',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5635,0,96,0,'216.201.29.40',1105914981,1,1,1,0,'18-27 Rowcrop','Single wheel tractors were made in 1930. 31 and 32. The dual wheel tractors were not introduced until 1933. They used to be my favorite. Send me a phone number and we will discuss them John','',0,0,'','3r5nhx0r',0,0,'u_509','',0),(5636,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1105919867,1,1,1,0,'Hay','Whats happening?','',0,0,'','2pn6lk6g',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5640,0,10611,0,'209.124.33.5',1105934834,1,1,1,1,'HPOCA forums','Hello,\r\n\r\nBefore I can add you to the HPOCA group, I need to verify your membership in the HPOCA. If you could reply with your membership number, and last name, I\'ll get you set up right away.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'','3d6od2l9',0,0,'u_505','',0),(5642,0,321,0,'205.231.145.136',1105925023,1,1,1,0,'Rick\'s address','Rick Butler\r\n546 Prospect Hill Road\r\nPine Plains, NY 12567','',0,0,'','wx00lgtr',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5643,0,321,0,'205.231.145.136',1105925261,1,1,1,0,'Rick\'s Address','Rick Butler\r\n546 Prospect Hill Road\r\nPine Plains, NY 12567','',0,0,'','243s9sn0',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5644,0,321,0,'205.231.145.136',1105962052,1,1,1,0,'Rick\'s email address','<!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rlmonphf@taconic.net\">rlmonphf@taconic.net</a><!-- e -->','',0,0,'','1nf19ggg',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5648,0,505,0,'198.108.232.40',1106010614,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','I would like to participate on the hpoca forum. my last name is wieferich and my member number is 2455. thanks.','',0,0,'','3f0pyzlr',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5649,0,88,0,'4.155.57.229',1106008388,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hay','Hi,\r\n\r\nNot much,,,,,,just trying to stay warm here. Nice to see Allen is history,,,,only trouble is about a year too late. Can\'t understand how \r\nthe by-law changes got voted in. Oh well, when less than 10 percent vote,\r\nwhat can we expect.\r\n\r\n                                       Doug','',0,0,'','2f3xsqj4',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5650,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1106016715,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hay','Yea, I think John Hume will make a fine president. Although I\'m not going to renew to watch. Leo\'s post made my mind up for me. I figured after the election they would get tired of flinging shit. Guess not, though.','',0,0,'','6k6jbboj',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5652,0,505,0,'198.108.232.40',1106010614,1,1,1,0,'Re: HPOCA forums','I would like to participate on the hpoca forum. my last name is wieferich and my member number is 2455. thanks.','',0,0,'','3e3zqjfa',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5654,0,144,0,'169.207.136.167',1106096533,1,1,1,0,'emcee for banquet','John,\r\n\r\n    I would like to ask if you could take the role as emcee for the banquet.\r\nAs you know it takes a lot of work planning and organizing an event like this. I will have many things going on that weekend, making sure everything runs as smooth as possible. It would be greatly appreciated if you could.\r\n\r\n    I would gladly sit down with you before hand to work out the details of that evening.\r\n\r\nhere are the things going on:\r\n6:30- doors open\r\n7:00- banquet starts\r\nprayer- Bill Gamble ?\r\neat\r\nspeaker- Mary Ann Townsend \r\nfun auction- Kurt Aumann, Auctioneer\r\n\r\nanything that you would need to add to talk about.\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions feel free to call 414-423-4393 or <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rjoliver@execpc.com\">rjoliver@execpc.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n\r\nThank You,\r\nRandy Esch\r\nPresident- Midwest Oliver Collectors','',0,0,'','3qqth3kw',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5655,0,144,0,'169.207.136.167',1106096533,1,1,1,0,'emcee for banquet','John,\r\n\r\n    I would like to ask if you could take the role as emcee for the banquet.\r\nAs you know it takes a lot of work planning and organizing an event like this. I will have many things going on that weekend, making sure everything runs as smooth as possible. It would be greatly appreciated if you could.\r\n\r\n    I would gladly sit down with you before hand to work out the details of that evening.\r\n\r\nhere are the things going on:\r\n6:30- doors open\r\n7:00- banquet starts\r\nprayer- Bill Gamble ?\r\neat\r\nspeaker- Mary Ann Townsend \r\nfun auction- Kurt Aumann, Auctioneer\r\n\r\nanything that you would need to add to talk about.\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions feel free to call 414-423-4393 or <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:rjoliver@execpc.com\">rjoliver@execpc.com</a><!-- e -->\r\n\r\nThank You,\r\nRandy Esch\r\nPresident- Midwest Oliver Collectors','',0,0,'','3qqth3kw',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5657,0,12,0,'69.128.204.179',1106170668,1,1,1,0,'Re: emcee for banquet','Hi Randy,\r\n\r\nI can handle the emcee duties. \r\n\r\nA couple of other things I thought of after we talked the other day. Will you have a check-in or registration table and a schedule of events available? I\'d like to have a location that members can see what\'s going on and when. I\'d also like to have minutes from the previous meeting and the treasurer\'s report for the members the review before the meetings. Having all this info in one place would be good.\r\n\r\nI also need to know if the Ambrose room will be available at 2:00 pm Friday? Andy Blackwood is organizing a meeting for Chapter presidents to work on a handbook for new chapters. \r\n\r\nThanks, John.','',0,0,'','2f7d93zv',0,0,'u_144','',0),(5658,0,144,0,'169.207.139.212',1106174774,1,1,1,0,'Re: emcee for banquet','Hi John,\r\n\r\n yes we will have a registration table, you surely can put the minutes and treasurer\'s report and any other HPOCA information at the table.\r\n\r\nI will have to check to see if the Ambrose room would be available at that time, I will get back to you.\r\n\r\nRandy','',0,0,'','h9y74s2f',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5659,0,144,0,'169.207.139.212',1106174774,1,1,1,0,'Re: emcee for banquet','Hi John,\r\n\r\n yes we will have a registration table, you surely can put the minutes and treasurer\'s report and any other HPOCA information at the table.\r\n\r\nI will have to check to see if the Ambrose room would be available at that time, I will get back to you.\r\n\r\nRandy','',0,0,'','h9y74s2f',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5663,0,43,0,'158.247.216.57',1106193180,1,1,1,0,'Re: Cletrac/Hercules parts well in a way','John,\r\nYes I have seat grinding equipment. I\'ll try that. Yes I would like to see a tech article on water pumps. I think I have the rebuilding covered, but there are a lot of people out there that don\'t even attempt something like that. If you need some help with it let me know. I hope I don\'t end up getting my foot stuck in my mouth, but have you considered doing and article about rebuilding generators and starters? That would be another very helpful article for a lot of readers. Sherry doesn\'t have tech articles right now, but I would hope to see some in the future. I\'m getting ready to subscribe for the second year of her magazine. I kind of enjoy getting an Oliver magazine every month.\r\nGeoffrey','',0,0,'','1o3zawjw',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5664,0,96,0,'216.201.29.50',1106405951,1,1,1,0,'Olivers in New England','Back in 1964 when I was on my honeymoon I stopped at an Oliver dealer to me in west cental Vermont. He had been a Cockshutt dealer and he sold quite a bit of equipment. 15 years ago when I went to Maine to do some clinics for Perfect Circle we were at a Tech scool and they mentioned they received a lot of help from the John Deere dealer who had been a White, Oliver &amp; Cockshutt dealer.  He talked about another dealer who had also been a White, Oliver&amp; Cockshutt dealer who had been a good volume dealer. I noticed a fair amount of Oliver tractors in Maine. John','',0,0,'','3uxerawk',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5668,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1106416741,1,1,1,0,'Re: Olivers in New England','John\r\n\r\nThat\'s interesting to know. I think there are alot more Oliver/Cockshutt, and Cletracs scattered around than most would think.  I\'ve been told before, that even the guys that now farm with john deeres have had or still have an old Oliver or two.\r\n\r\nWe just might be surprised to see how many Olivers would have been around had White and Moline hadn\'t got in the mix. John.','',0,0,'','8bm0x6xq',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5672,0,43,0,'158.247.216.23',1106444291,1,1,1,0,'Electrical repair','John,\r\nI was thinking about the tests you can do while the starter and generator are on the tractor. I was also thinking of the field coil, armature and brush tests done with the unit disassembled. The actual rebuilding of the units is probably more in depth than you might want to go into, but being able to diagnose a problem would help a lot of people. I think installing new bushings, brushes, etc would be self evident to most readers These are just suggestions. Since you\'re the one writing the articles, it\'s your choice. I just enjoy being able to make the repairs myself in this throw-away world instead of depending on someone else.\r\nGeoffrey','',0,0,'','1klffk64',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5675,0,777,0,'63.18.165.3',1106488613,1,1,1,1,'General engine','John  I don\'t know if my lasted  message got threw.I have the B.F.AVERY book in it it list Hercules IXA 3\" X4\" 113ci for the engine in the general and the IXK 3 1/4\" X4\" 123ci or the 3 1/4\" X 4\" 133ci for the avery model A.I am not in a hurry to get the general restored. I have an avery A that is  a part that I going to try to finish first but would like to find the right engine for the general if I could.This book also list 5FA38 for the year 1940 I take it that is a start number so if I am figuring this right my tractor would be avery late 1939.If know any sites I might be able check to locate the right engine I would appreciated.\r\n        THANK YOU Steve','',0,0,'','12t10zta',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5676,0,96,0,'216.201.29.125',1106489715,1,1,1,0,'Re: General engine','Send me an address and I will send you some information. do you have a General parts book? Also do you belong to the TRU-Draft Club? The president and Mr Lemon do not live too far from me. They have parts. Trouble is Lemon is in Florida until Spring. They will have there spring meet in March. I will be gone for a little over a week, Talk to you then. John','',0,0,'','2qsauzmg',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5677,0,96,0,'216.201.29.200',1106493986,1,1,1,0,'Re: General engine','Timing is everything. I was cleaning last night and in this box were  some copies I had made several years ago on tractor models made by the Cleveland Tractor Company. This sheet was given to all Oliver dealers  when they received a master Cletrac parts book in 1945. I have the one my employer had. Only the first 82 tractors in 1939 had the IXA engine. I also have a General parts book and it has parts for both engines. Hope this helps. I have one of those books also. My brother-inlaw has it now. John','',0,0,'','w0n4ozsg',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5678,0,96,0,'216.201.29.125',1106489715,1,1,1,0,'Re: General engine','Send me an address and I will send you some information. do you have a General parts book? Also do you belong to the TRU-Draft Club? The president and Mr Lemon do not live too far from me. They have parts. Trouble is Lemon is in Florida until Spring. They will have there spring meet in March. I will be gone for a little over a week, Talk to you then. John','',0,0,'','3rb508lx',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5679,0,96,0,'216.201.29.200',1106493986,1,1,1,0,'Re: General engine','Timing is everything. I was cleaning last night and in this box were  some copies I had made several years ago on tractor models made by the Cleveland Tractor Company. This sheet was given to all Oliver dealers  when they received a master Cletrac parts book in 1945. I have the one my employer had. Only the first 82 tractors in 1939 had the IXA engine. I also have a General parts book and it has parts for both engines. Hope this helps. I have one of those books also. My brother-inlaw has it now. John','',0,0,'','231pyn4l',0,0,'u_777','',0),(5682,0,777,0,'63.18.254.229',1106501134,1,1,1,1,'Re: General engine','John how do you go about joining the True -draft -club and due they have a web sight .I have a operator\'s manual from Jensales and the B.F.Avery book.There is one tractor that I see at some of the shows that I go to and I have talked to the owner but in am not ready to start on the general yet. But would like to have the right engine when I am ready.I have been looking at any hercules engines I come across to see if I can find an IXA and I have been told the IXA are hard to find.I have found some IXB\'s are the IXK any more common then the IXA is . \r\n  Hope to hear form you when you get back. Steve','',0,0,'','18d77b5z',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5687,0,238,0,'152.163.100.14',1106855450,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hart Parr 70 air cleaner','Hi John,\r\nI know you\'ve been busy as a one eyed cat watchin 2 rat holes....,but, if you have time to look for the cap for the air breather for a Oliver-Hart Parr 70 I\'d sure appreciate it. Had about 6 returns on my ad and no one has the cap, just the entire breather system. If you need to sell the whole thing complete, I\'ll take it like that too, but I only need the cap and perforated screen. \r\n                                                     Thanx, Larry','',0,0,'','2dzln9kq',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5689,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1107004406,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hart Parr 70 air cleaner','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nI apologize for not getting back to you. I\'ve been meaning to call you and talk but haven\'t got that done either. \r\n\r\nThe air cleaner I\'ve got is missing the screen from the top. That must be something that gets lost.\r\n\r\nSorry again, expect to hear from me soon. John.','',0,0,'','13eug61q',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5690,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1107004406,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hart Parr 70 air cleaner','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nI apologize for not getting back to you. I\'ve been meaning to call you and talk but haven\'t got that done either. \r\n\r\nThe air cleaner I\'ve got is missing the screen from the top. That must be something that gets lost.\r\n\r\nSorry again, expect to hear from me soon. John.','',0,0,'','13eug61q',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5693,0,96,0,'216.201.29.113',1107112071,1,1,1,0,'Oil in Cooling system','I think MR Starr and I are talking about two diferent problems. send me a phone number and I will call you later this week. John','',0,0,'','2wha6s9f',0,0,'u_635','',0),(5701,0,40,0,'205.188.116.65',1107239392,1,1,1,0,'#3 Replicas','John:\r\n\r\nI hope you realize I\'m not picking on you about #3.  But it looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand was doing. I agree with Duane, especially now that the minutes are being posted, that they are going to have to be more complete about these things in the future. If handouts are provided at the meeting maybe they should be attached to the minutes for future reference.\r\n\r\nI know the previous board had it in for the #3 project.  I wish they hadn\'t taken that attitude, but they did.  The one thing I think we as a club should try and do is keep #3 out of Wash DC.  But the owner of the tractor is not going to pay much attention to any group that whines about the costs they incurred.\r\n\r\nWill see you in Moline.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','1wisd0ws',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5702,0,40,0,'205.188.116.65',1107239392,1,1,1,0,'#3 Replicas','John:\r\n\r\nI hope you realize I\'m not picking on you about #3.  But it looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand was doing. I agree with Duane, especially now that the minutes are being posted, that they are going to have to be more complete about these things in the future. If handouts are provided at the meeting maybe they should be attached to the minutes for future reference.\r\n\r\nI know the previous board had it in for the #3 project.  I wish they hadn\'t taken that attitude, but they did.  The one thing I think we as a club should try and do is keep #3 out of Wash DC.  But the owner of the tractor is not going to pay much attention to any group that whines about the costs they incurred.\r\n\r\nWill see you in Moline.\r\n\r\nBill Brandt','',0,0,'','1wisd0ws',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5704,0,5,0,'216.166.193.155',1107309714,1,1,1,0,'1800 fuel','Hi, John\r\n  I was over at the IH page on the Yesterday\'s Tractor site and saw an exchange about the proper octane gas to run in a 706. It got me to thinking that I read in the 1800 operators manual it called for 92 or 93 octane (I\'m going to look that up). Do you feel this is needed? (At about 35 gal. per tankfull with about a 10 cents per gal. difference between 87 0ctane to 93 octane, it would only be an extra $3.50 per tankfull.) What about a lead additive?\r\n  I\'m hoping to plow with the 1800 this spring with a 3-14 hyd plow. This plow will be a bit small for the 1800 but will work good on the 88. Will try to \"gear up, throttle back\". Looking for economy. \r\n  Last year a friend had his 77 and 2-14 at the plow day. He said he \"turned up the gov\". I\'m not sure what he actually did. Started plowing around 9:00.  By lunch time he was hunting for fuel, put in 5 gal. By 2:00 he ran out of gas. \r\n                                                              Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','1942py3y',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5705,0,96,0,'209.143.23.36',1107431998,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1800 fuel','There used to also be two ways that octane was rated. I did not remember how it was calculated and I was the sub at the JVS yesterday and I asked the auto mechanics guy if he remember how they calculated that and he did not either. We decided for the one day show put the better stuff in. If is has a little carbon on the pistons it will ping. We had a gas demonstrator in 1961 and part of 62. When it was getting some decent hours on it we would put it on the dyno ans spray water through the intake as it was loaded to soften the carbon. That was one problem with the tractor, a lot of farmers did not have the quality fuel that was needed. By the way, In second gear that thing will pull all outdoors, in third gear they are short so you may want to look good with 5 bottoms. The dealer next door had a little lighter soil and sold a bunch of them with 5-14\'s cause in that neighborhood it would pull that combination in third.\r\nOther than that how you doing? John','',0,0,'','5iaw615b',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5706,0,96,0,'209.143.23.36',1107431998,1,1,1,0,'Re: 1800 fuel','There used to also be two ways that octane was rated. I did not remember how it was calculated and I was the sub at the JVS yesterday and I asked the auto mechanics guy if he remember how they calculated that and he did not either. We decided for the one day show put the better stuff in. If is has a little carbon on the pistons it will ping. We had a gas demonstrator in 1961 and part of 62. When it was getting some decent hours on it we would put it on the dyno ans spray water through the intake as it was loaded to soften the carbon. That was one problem with the tractor, a lot of farmers did not have the quality fuel that was needed. By the way, In second gear that thing will pull all outdoors, in third gear they are short so you may want to look good with 5 bottoms. The dealer next door had a little lighter soil and sold a bunch of them with 5-14\'s cause in that neighborhood it would pull that combination in third.\r\nOther than that how you doing? John','',0,0,'','5iaw615b',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5707,0,786,0,'152.163.100.136',1107477628,1,1,1,1,'18-36 Head','Hello Hartparr1,\r\n\r\nA while ago I shared with you a wish list for some 18-36 parts and you replied that you had a head for sale.\r\n\r\nIs it complete ( vaves &amp; springs), and still available?  Asking price?\r\n\r\nTake Care\r\n\r\nDave','',0,0,'','1sdgtjwe',0,0,'u_560','',0),(5708,0,786,0,'152.163.100.136',1107478776,1,1,1,1,'18-36 Rod Bolts','Hello Barry,\r\n\r\nA while back you were looking for a set of pistons for an 18-36.  I hope you found a pair.  I have a running 18-36 with an odd pair of rod bolts and was wondering if you might have an extra pair for sale.  Everytime I open the cover I have to look at the odd bolts --A reminder of the tractors distant past when the bolts let loose - Thankfully only a little internal scarring. \r\n\r\nTake Care,\r\n\r\nDave','',0,0,'','k73chznc',0,0,'u_557','',0),(5709,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1107639030,1,1,1,0,'Hi John','John,congradulations on your presidential win. Can you pm your phone # to me. I would like very much to phone you and discuss some things  Thanks Bob','',0,0,'','13ue4p0j',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5711,0,777,0,'63.18.237.3',1107657567,1,1,1,1,'Re: General engine','John ,how are you ? I don\'t know if you got the post I sent you last week I have been waiting for a response from you .My E- mail is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:fandj1919@yahoo.com\">fandj1919@yahoo.com</a><!-- e --> ,my home address is Steve Schantz 11761 North County Road 100 West Batesville IN. 47006 .I would like to find the right engine for this tractor. It is not something I am trying to get finish right away but any time I can find something more about the general tractor or the right engine I try. Hope to hear from you Steve S','',0,0,'','2bl9r8ym',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5712,0,358,0,'4.160.243.31',1107716865,1,1,1,0,'Louisville Farm show','Hey John,\r\n\r\nAs it looks at this time, I will be able to help out on Sat and Sun. \r\nJust let me know when you need me. All day or for a few hours, I\'ll be glad to help.\r\n\r\nMyron','',0,0,'','185g39ny',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5713,0,110,0,'205.188.116.136',1107639030,1,1,1,0,'Hi John','John,congradulations on your presidential win. Can you pm your phone # to me. I would like very much to phone you and discuss some things  Thanks Bob','',0,0,'','3ag8e0ub',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5714,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1107748202,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi John','Hi Bob,\r\n\r\nIt\'s good to hear from you. My # is 765-723-1389. Call mornings or evenings are the best. \r\n\r\nJohn Hume.','',0,0,'','2280fzps',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5717,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1107748202,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi John','Hi Bob,\r\n\r\nIt\'s good to hear from you. My # is 765-723-1389. Call mornings or evenings are the best. \r\n\r\nJohn Hume.','',0,0,'','2280fzps',0,0,'u_110','',0),(5718,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1107748591,1,1,1,0,'Re: Louisville Farm show','Hi Myron,\r\n\r\nThat would be great! I look forward to seeing you and visiting. \r\n\r\nSee you then, John.','',0,0,'','1gi5o4cp',0,0,'u_358','',0),(5720,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1107962310,1,1,1,0,'Darius Harms and Hart Parr #3','Larry, The Darius Harms that you met is the public one that acts like the BIG MAN ON CAMPUS. Behind the scenes he is a lying coniving bastard. I nearly dropped my I&amp;I membership because of him, but if everyone that opposed him did that then he would have won and got his way.\r\n\r\nWay back when I&amp;I, the Schaefers and HPOCA was trying to get HP #3 out of the smithsonian there were several pieces that had to come together.\r\n\r\nThere was a meeting of the HPOCA board and Harms to try to get it together. At that meeting the HPOCA board basically decided that they couldn\'t fund the project. So Harms goes behind the HPOCA board\'s back and calls Pete Markowski to get his approval to fund the project. Needless to say, at that point the HPOCA board and Darius Harms did not see eye to eye. Since then it has all been finger pointing and name calling.\r\n\r\nAnother thing that needs to be cleared up is Terry Allen\'s role in all of this. He has been blamed for everything and for the most part has shouldered the load. In truth, the Schaefers and Darius Harms pulled most of the strings on this project and HPOCA was powerless to do much once the tractor came out of the museum.\r\n\r\nDarius Harms knows no limits when it comes to antique tractors and spending other peoples money. The I&amp;I club has just completed the purchase of another 61 acres at a cost of $175,000 in addition to the 30 acres we bought 2 years ago for $105,000. HP#3 is just another example of Harm\'s largess with other people\'s money.','',0,0,'','13l8bf2d',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5721,0,7,0,'',1056334552,1,1,1,1,'Banquet','Greg, \r\n\r\nDon\'t really know any more than yesterday, Ed wasn\'t at the meeting and he is handling that end. Ed\'s phone number is 618-397-8135 if you really want to know.\r\n\r\nJohn','',0,0,'','3ekx5zz4',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5722,0,5,0,'216.166.193.173',1107967610,1,1,1,0,'#3','Hi, Andy\r\n I hope this finds you well and in high spirits. I\'ve been under the weather lately, struggled through work on Monday, but chose to take Tues. and Wed. as sick days. I hope I\'m over this soon.  With nothing to do the last couple days I\'ve been watching the HPOCA website. Most interesting is the exchange on what will become of #3. Everyone in this tug-of-war (I&amp;I, Heritage Museum, and the HPOCA) have a claim and ties (of sorts) to #3. \r\nThis leads me to some questions, perhaps you know the answers, maybe you don\'t. \r\n How many times can the loan of #3 be extended to any one group? Indefinately??? Are there guidelines for this?\r\n How did the Smithsonian aquire this tractor? Was it \"given\" to them, is it \"on loan\" to them, were there any strings attached? Has anyone ever seen any documentation of #3 changing hands? The wording of such a document may hold answers to this problem. \r\n  Mull this over and consider the possibilities, I\'m sure most of this is politicaly motivated. I guess I\'m done, time to go take another nap. \r\n                                                                        oleblu','',0,0,'','ozrlzofy',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5723,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1107969229,1,1,1,0,'Previous PM','Larry, It is my intention that the PM I sent to you is to be kept private, I see no sense in airing all of this in public when uninformed people shoot from the hip with little knowledge of the situation.','',0,0,'','1ez1g0ih',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5725,0,781,0,'205.247.229.99',1107979464,1,1,1,0,'Oliver 550 power steering unit','Hello John\r\n\r\nI took my generator off to be rewound and my pump does not attach to it. It is mounted next to the generator closer to the engine, the fill cap does penetrate the hood, but the unit is belt driven. I can\'t see how to remove the belt or tighten the belt. Any suggestions? Also, my manual does not show this configuration but rather the one you described.\r\n\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nDoug','',0,0,'','63kvyg81',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5726,0,731,0,'204.181.84.106',1108001297,1,1,1,0,'Wheatland panels','What is your phone number?','',0,0,'','9hb52xp5',0,0,'u_798','',0),(5727,0,731,0,'204.181.84.106',1108001297,1,1,1,0,'Wheatland panels','What is your phone number?','',0,0,'','9hb52xp5',0,0,'u_798','',0),(5728,0,798,0,'66.156.12.30',1108003847,1,1,1,0,'Oliver','Kenny,\r\n\r\nDAVE ALVORD in Ga here.  I apologize.  I never thought you would have been interested in these or I would have contacted you about them.  Anyway, if you wish, you can call me tomorrow at 800-216-2511 after 11am EST.  I have pictures for you as well.  If you want them, they are yours.  Chris Losey got the third set that I have.  I am just not going to use them.  I hope all is well.  Let me know when you can.  You get first shot at them.   \r\n\r\nDAVE','',0,0,'','2hbs8j2z',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5729,0,798,0,'66.156.12.30',1108003847,1,1,1,0,'Oliver','Kenny,\r\n\r\nDAVE ALVORD in Ga here.  I apologize.  I never thought you would have been interested in these or I would have contacted you about them.  Anyway, if you wish, you can call me tomorrow at 800-216-2511 after 11am EST.  I have pictures for you as well.  If you want them, they are yours.  Chris Losey got the third set that I have.  I am just not going to use them.  I hope all is well.  Let me know when you can.  You get first shot at them.   \r\n\r\nDAVE','',0,0,'','2hbs8j2z',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5730,0,96,0,'209.143.23.205',1108040498,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver 550 power steering unit','Your tractor is a later 550. I think 1962 was when they changed to that style pump. The reservoir to which the fill cap is attached is stationary. The bracket that supports the pump is slotted alowing you to move the pump and tighten the belt. It probably has beenclose to 35 years since I have done one ,but we always did that if we had the hood off. Right now if I remember correctly you can do it if you take the front shell off. What is the serial number of your tractor?','',0,0,'','3cwc6tlz',0,0,'u_781','',0),(5731,0,5,0,'216.166.193.173',1107967610,1,1,1,0,'#3','Hi, Andy\r\n I hope this finds you well and in high spirits. I\'ve been under the weather lately, struggled through work on Monday, but chose to take Tues. and Wed. as sick days. I hope I\'m over this soon.  With nothing to do the last couple days I\'ve been watching the HPOCA website. Most interesting is the exchange on what will become of #3. Everyone in this tug-of-war (I&amp;I, Heritage Museum, and the HPOCA) have a claim and ties (of sorts) to #3. \r\nThis leads me to some questions, perhaps you know the answers, maybe you don\'t. \r\n How many times can the loan of #3 be extended to any one group? Indefinately??? Are there guidelines for this?\r\n How did the Smithsonian aquire this tractor? Was it \"given\" to them, is it \"on loan\" to them, were there any strings attached? Has anyone ever seen any documentation of #3 changing hands? The wording of such a document may hold answers to this problem. \r\n  Mull this over and consider the possibilities, I\'m sure most of this is politicaly motivated. I guess I\'m done, time to go take another nap. \r\n                                                                        oleblu','',0,0,'','10o3so28',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5732,0,47,0,'12.64.60.72',1108055685,1,1,1,0,'Re: #3','I asked Harley Dawg! He told me it was given to Smithsonian, and could be loaned many different places, so long as they can meet the guidelines. It can be loaned for 3 years, and that loan can be renewed once. He also believes it to be a bad idea to send it to Greenville, he said he smelled a John Deere Coyote while he was riding by, and they pee in motors, then the whole machine rusts and disappears.\r\nI don\'t know what sort of smoke and mirrors they are trying to play with President Hume, but I am watching my back, and trying to cover his as much as possible.\r\nTake care!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','1aeumwq9',0,0,'u_5','',0),(5733,0,96,0,'209.143.23.205',1108040498,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver 550 power steering unit','Your tractor is a later 550. I think 1962 was when they changed to that style pump. The reservoir to which the fill cap is attached is stationary. The bracket that supports the pump is slotted alowing you to move the pump and tighten the belt. It probably has beenclose to 35 years since I have done one ,but we always did that if we had the hood off. Right now if I remember correctly you can do it if you take the front shell off. What is the serial number of your tractor?','',0,0,'','2hw98b52',0,0,'u_781','',0),(5734,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1107962310,1,1,1,0,'Darius Harms and Hart Parr #3','Larry, The Darius Harms that you met is the public one that acts like the BIG MAN ON CAMPUS. Behind the scenes he is a lying coniving bastard. I nearly dropped my I&amp;I membership because of him, but if everyone that opposed him did that then he would have won and got his way.\r\n\r\nWay back when I&amp;I, the Schaefers and HPOCA was trying to get HP #3 out of the smithsonian there were several pieces that had to come together.\r\n\r\nThere was a meeting of the HPOCA board and Harms to try to get it together. At that meeting the HPOCA board basically decided that they couldn\'t fund the project. So Harms goes behind the HPOCA board\'s back and calls Pete Markowski to get his approval to fund the project. Needless to say, at that point the HPOCA board and Darius Harms did not see eye to eye. Since then it has all been finger pointing and name calling.\r\n\r\nAnother thing that needs to be cleared up is Terry Allen\'s role in all of this. He has been blamed for everything and for the most part has shouldered the load. In truth, the Schaefers and Darius Harms pulled most of the strings on this project and HPOCA was powerless to do much once the tractor came out of the museum.\r\n\r\nDarius Harms knows no limits when it comes to antique tractors and spending other peoples money. The I&amp;I club has just completed the purchase of another 61 acres at a cost of $175,000 in addition to the 30 acres we bought 2 years ago for $105,000. HP#3 is just another example of Harm\'s largess with other people\'s money.','',0,0,'','39997i5s',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5735,0,7,0,'12.109.70.88',1107969229,1,1,1,0,'Previous PM','Larry, It is my intention that the PM I sent to you is to be kept private, I see no sense in airing all of this in public when uninformed people shoot from the hip with little knowledge of the situation.','',0,0,'','1oyubcgc',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5736,0,238,0,'205.188.116.136',1108076688,1,1,1,0,'Re: Previous PM','John,\r\nYour wish for privacy will be honered. Thanx for the insight.\r\n                                                                           Larry','',0,0,'','bcg7yrnr',0,0,'u_7','',0),(5739,0,5,0,'216.166.193.245',1108086097,1,1,1,0,'1800 fuel','Hi, John\r\n I\'ve been a bit under the weather lately. In the last 2 weeks I\'ve taken 3 sick days, perhaps more than I\'ve taken total in the last 19 years! Hope I\'m feeling up to snuff by the time Moline rolls around.\r\n I think the premium gas will be a good thing in the 1800 even though it\'s gone up nearly 20 cents a gallon since I last wrote. I plan to dope the gas with Sea-Foam. A fellow at work swears by this stuff to clean the carb, valves, pistons, etc.  As I have never tried it before I thought I\'d give it a whirl. \r\n                                                                  Jim Thurnau','',0,0,'','3hhe0ypo',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5741,0,65,0,'209.240.113.174',1108240291,1,1,1,0,'Catch of the county!','Now Andy are you the catch of the county??? You had better fetch your Penny along to Moline and we will feed her a little canadian tea instead of that  stump water you been passen off as good bourbon!!!! <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','3f1pym1c',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5742,0,238,0,'205.188.116.67',1108250224,1,1,1,0,'copies','John,\r\nIf you need a hand with some copies, I\'ve got a copy machine in my office and will be glad to help. Also planing on Louisville for the night of the 18th.\r\n                                                                       Larry','',0,0,'','29iv3flx',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5743,0,788,0,'198.81.26.13',1108252726,1,1,1,0,'cockshutt 70','couldn\'t get the pics up tried to e-mail them but your address didn\'t work. mine is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:scottmoyse@aol.com\">scottmoyse@aol.com</a><!-- e --> if you drop me an e-mail then i can send you these pics \r\nbear','',0,0,'','219st94t',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5744,0,65,0,'209.240.113.174',1108240291,1,1,1,0,'Catch of the county!','Now Andy are you the catch of the county??? You had better fetch your Penny along to Moline and we will feed her a little canadian tea instead of that  stump water you been passen off as good bourbon!!!! <!-- s:D --><img src=\"{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" /><!-- s:D -->','',0,0,'','2wllfypb',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5745,0,47,0,'12.64.96.22',1108261299,1,1,1,0,'Re: Catch of the county!','Hey Grant,\r\nI don\'t know about being a catch, but I don\'t miss too many licks. Bad Penny hasn\'t been here for two weeks, so maybe she is gone, I hope so. Yes, she wants to come to a show, and has asked if I would take her. The answer is NO, NO, NO!!! I am trying to get her to leave, not stay. If I give her any encouragement at all, I defeat my own plan, which is dating women who work for a living, not party for a lifestyle. I don\'t see how that girl makes it.\r\nMy point was and is, sometimes there are things I think are finished and over with, done, kaput, don\'t gotta deal with any more. Sometimes these things come back, when they should go away. Bad Penny and #3 are two of these things!!!\r\nHave a good one!!!\r\nAndy','',0,0,'','6vtx50wv',0,0,'u_65','',0),(5746,0,798,0,'68.219.202.186',1108265237,1,1,1,0,'Oliver panels','Kenny,\r\n\r\nI did mail you back but it may have not arrived.  This is Dave Alvord in GA and I have the platform metal.  Let\'s talk.  Wayne Roth who  came to you place a while back will be coming out that way again in the spring so you can check with him for the delivery.  Very cheap to work with.  If you can, call me at home at 770-860-9190 or work at 800-216-2511 and we will catch up.  \r\n\r\nDAVE','',0,0,'','bx5cah0n',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5747,0,798,0,'68.219.202.186',1108265237,1,1,1,0,'Oliver panels','Kenny,\r\n\r\nI did mail you back but it may have not arrived.  This is Dave Alvord in GA and I have the platform metal.  Let\'s talk.  Wayne Roth who  came to you place a while back will be coming out that way again in the spring so you can check with him for the delivery.  Very cheap to work with.  If you can, call me at home at 770-860-9190 or work at 800-216-2511 and we will catch up.  \r\n\r\nDAVE','',0,0,'','bx5cah0n',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5748,0,731,0,'204.181.84.158',1108267345,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver panels','Dave, I haven\'t had a chance to call you, but will do so.-Kenny','',0,0,'','162ivvab',0,0,'u_798','',0),(5750,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1108301293,1,1,1,0,'Re: copies','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nThat sounds good. I\'m going to call the convention center and find out what they have available for making copies and the location of a Kinko\'s or something like that. I\'ll let you know about the copier. \r\n\r\nThanks, John.','',0,0,'','31rnz0mg',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5752,0,731,0,'204.181.84.158',1108267345,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver panels','Dave, I haven\'t had a chance to call you, but will do so.-Kenny','',0,0,'','1wwp6ait',0,0,'u_798','',0),(5753,0,798,0,'68.219.229.214',1108348684,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver panels','Kenny,\r\n\r\nNo problem.  I was not sure the mail got to you.  I am new at earthlink and the mail is very different than AOL was.  I have had it for 11 years and was used to it.  I feel like I am in a strange land with this for a while.  DAVE','',0,0,'','20j34gy0',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5754,0,798,0,'68.219.229.214',1108348684,1,1,1,0,'Re: Oliver panels','Kenny,\r\n\r\nNo problem.  I was not sure the mail got to you.  I am new at earthlink and the mail is very different than AOL was.  I have had it for 11 years and was used to it.  I feel like I am in a strange land with this for a while.  DAVE','',0,0,'','20j34gy0',0,0,'u_731','',0),(5755,0,742,0,'4.228.0.118',1108440292,1,1,1,0,'Hart Parrs.','This is Bob from ND.  I,too, have a couple of Hart Parrs.  A 18-36 and a 12-24.   I  also have a few Olivers plus some others.    Received your message concerning the hood for a 99 Oliver.  Did you find one?  I  also have some gas engines.   Where are you in Sask?   I am in Minot.\r\n\r\nI am not very good at this computer business, so I hope this goes through.\r\n\r\nIf you should want to reach me but not go through the Oliver Web site,  I can be reached a arhelstedt@yahoo . com.\r\n\r\nDo you have a E mail address?\r\n\r\nBest Regards,\r\n\r\nBob Helstedt','',0,0,'','3c62ofsg',0,0,'u_788','',0),(5756,0,742,0,'4.228.0.118',1108440292,1,1,1,0,'Hart Parrs.','This is Bob from ND.  I,too, have a couple of Hart Parrs.  A 18-36 and a 12-24.   I  also have a few Olivers plus some others.    Received your message concerning the hood for a 99 Oliver.  Did you find one?  I  also have some gas engines.   Where are you in Sask?   I am in Minot.\r\n\r\nI am not very good at this computer business, so I hope this goes through.\r\n\r\nIf you should want to reach me but not go through the Oliver Web site,  I can be reached a arhelstedt@yahoo . com.\r\n\r\nDo you have a E mail address?\r\n\r\nBest Regards,\r\n\r\nBob Helstedt','',0,0,'','3c62ofsg',0,0,'u_788','',0),(5757,0,731,0,'204.181.83.44',1108473757,1,1,1,0,'99 hood','Did you find a hood yet for your 99? I should have a decent one in the barn. $100 for it if it\'s pretty good, and If I remember right, it should be. Thanks!-Kenny','',0,0,'','1q74jx9v',0,0,'u_742','',0),(5758,0,731,0,'204.181.83.44',1108473757,1,1,1,0,'99 hood','Did you find a hood yet for your 99? I should have a decent one in the barn. $100 for it if it\'s pretty good, and If I remember right, it should be. Thanks!-Kenny','',0,0,'','1q74jx9v',0,0,'u_742','',0),(5759,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1108301293,1,1,1,0,'Re: copies','Hi Larry,\r\n\r\nThat sounds good. I\'m going to call the convention center and find out what they have available for making copies and the location of a Kinko\'s or something like that. I\'ll let you know about the copier. \r\n\r\nThanks, John.','',0,0,'','va26mrq7',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5760,0,788,0,'198.81.26.13',1108252726,1,1,1,0,'cockshutt 70','couldn\'t get the pics up tried to e-mail them but your address didn\'t work. mine is <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:scottmoyse@aol.com\">scottmoyse@aol.com</a><!-- e --> if you drop me an e-mail then i can send you these pics \r\nbear','',0,0,'','y6ahj8gp',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5761,0,88,0,'4.155.57.92',1107918394,1,1,1,0,'Hi','Hi,\r\n\r\nJust wondered if you have been following the saga of the #3 project and the toy sales. They are claiming HPOCA lost money on the deal. Something doesn\'t make sense here,,,,does it?\r\n\r\n                                       Doug','',0,0,'','2vhrn8w2',0,0,'u_412','',0),(5762,0,412,0,'24.154.83.149',1108517492,1,1,1,0,'Re: Hi','Hey Doug, I just logged on to this site again today. Boy I think I\'m making the right decision not renewing. Larry Coltren had called me on the phone about the toys and yes I think somebody juggling numbers. The last financial report I saw...#3 toys were the only thing HPOCA made a profit on.\r\n\r\nI see Andy\'s back ___ask the pres....That guys a fruitcake!!!Do you think he knows???\r\n\r\nBeen having fun working in my shed...just bought a \'05 Dodge 2500 Quadcab with the Cummin\'s.  She\'s a beauty. I ordered a bunch of....what do they call it...\"bling, bling\"? for it. The girls like it maybe I\'ll pick up \"bad penny\" and try out the backseat.  God, I can\'t even imagine how she looks even with my wildest imagination!!! \r\n\r\nI\'m gonna look good at the tractor shows anyway! Wouldn\'t you know it, though...the very day after buying the Dodge....the damn cam went out on my Mack. Oh well didn\'t hurt me to bad. \r\n\r\nHey I\'ve been keeping clear of this forum...it just pisses me off but I still check my email    <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:dannytabor2000@yahoo.com\">dannytabor2000@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->      so feel free to email me! Don\'t be a stranger!\r\n\r\nDanny','',0,0,'','1s6x8pwl',0,0,'u_88','',0),(5763,0,742,0,'4.228.0.114',1108519716,1,1,1,0,'Hoodfor Oliver','Thanks for the information about Lynch Farms or  Richard Lynch.  I should have remembered him as I bought a set of side panels for my 60 standard from him.\r\n\r\nThanks again,\r\n\r\nBob Helstedt','',0,0,'','2w0jsz6m',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5764,0,96,0,'209.143.23.219',1108524580,1,1,1,0,'Sleeve and piston set.','I did not know it made a difference. They were cleaning and he told me Saturday he found a brand new set of sleeves and pistons for a 70.','',0,0,'','ss09zk0d',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5765,0,96,0,'209.143.23.219',1108524580,1,1,1,0,'Sleeve and piston set.','I did not know it made a difference. They were cleaning and he told me Saturday he found a brand new set of sleeves and pistons for a 70.','',0,0,'','ss09zk0d',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5768,0,96,0,'209.143.23.30',1109004498,1,1,1,0,'88 Compression','You need to get a second opinon. Somebody wants in your billfold besides you.','',0,0,'','j6rs8so6',0,0,'u_320','',0),(5769,0,693,0,'165.206.209.230',1109015697,1,1,1,0,'member #','Harold Phipps \r\n#10009386','',0,0,'','1xkzbzq6',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5770,0,693,0,'165.206.209.230',1109015697,1,1,1,0,'member #','Harold Phipps \r\n#10009386','',0,0,'','1xkzbzq6',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5772,0,764,0,'68.237.141.133',1109120640,1,1,1,1,'oliver super 99 gm','hi john, you called and helped me out awhile ago on this 99 that i am putting a 371 into.i am making progress slowly but it will go in soner or later!somehow    could you tell me where i can find good pictures of correct paint scheme and where decals go?  also are the 99 early or late green? thanks again and do come for visit to nh   don young 519 bancroft hwy. litchfield n.h. 03052    <!-- e --><a href=\"mailto:dcy10364@msn.com\">dcy10364@msn.com</a><!-- e -->   603 345 3833','',0,0,'Bg==','2ix6esck',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5773,0,742,0,'4.228.0.114',1108519716,1,1,1,0,'Hoodfor Oliver','Thanks for the information about Lynch Farms or  Richard Lynch.  I should have remembered him as I bought a set of side panels for my 60 standard from him.\r\n\r\nThanks again,\r\n\r\nBob Helstedt','',0,0,'Bg==','2l4c7p0i',0,0,'u_47','',0),(5775,0,291,0,'207.32.7.204',1109473136,1,1,1,0,'reply about cult.','I just replied to you cult. post on HART Parr site. Where is Whately,Mass. Have a son living in Nashua, NH. Been out that way a few times. We live in NW Iowa.','',0,0,'Bg==','1yuudzri',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5777,0,291,0,'207.32.7.204',1109473136,1,1,1,0,'reply about cult.','I just replied to you cult. post on HART Parr site. Where is Whately,Mass. Have a son living in Nashua, NH. Been out that way a few times. We live in NW Iowa.','',0,0,'Bg==','1yuudzri',0,0,'u_778','',0),(5778,0,778,0,'24.91.181.217',1109533545,1,1,1,0,'Re: reply about cult.','Hi JPS,\r\n\r\nWhately is in western Massachusetts.  Nashua is a few hours drive from here, I don\'t know if I\'ve ever really been there.  I\'ve already got manuals for the front mount cultivator, now I need the parts for mounting it on the tractor.\r\n\r\nThanks for the reply!\r\n\r\nPaul M.','',0,0,'Bg==','231997k8',0,0,'u_291','',0),(5779,0,76,0,'67.50.252.16',1109480589,1,1,1,0,'copy','Randy\r\n i was wondering if i could get a copy of the sheet for the 75 lawn mower , that you had on display in moline?','',0,0,'Bg==','2supqf8g',0,0,'u_144','',0),(5781,0,144,0,'169.207.136.88',1109551854,1,1,1,0,'Re: copy','Kevin, do you want just the price list or a copy of the the colored ones to. just give me your address and give me about a week or so.Randy','',0,0,'Bg==','1uocgm3t',0,0,'u_76','',0),(5782,0,76,0,'67.50.252.78',1109553646,1,1,1,0,'Re: copy','all of them would be fine.  Let me know how much i owe you for these.  Thanks!\r\n\r\nKevin Coers\r\n1104 2300th Ave\r\nChestnut, IL 62518','',0,0,'Bg==','1ghj71et',0,0,'u_144','',0),(5783,0,10611,0,'209.124.32.213',1109560886,1,1,1,1,'Show application','Marc,\r\n\r\nI just changed the show application form. Could you check it out and see what you think. Let me know if it needs anything.','',0,0,'Bg==','196q3of0',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5786,0,76,0,'67.50.252.78',1109553646,1,1,1,0,'Re: copy','all of them would be fine.  Let me know how much i owe you for these.  Thanks!\r\n\r\nKevin Coers\r\n1104 2300th Ave\r\nChestnut, IL 62518','',0,0,'Bg==','36opuom1',0,0,'u_144','',0),(5787,0,459,0,'67.250.226.16',1109567189,1,1,1,0,'Re: Show application','Chris:\r\n\r\nLooks great!\r\n\r\nHope you had a great trip home.  We took the scenic route home along the Miss. River and stopped to see Sue\'s 86 year old aunt along the way. Finally got home around 5pm.\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'Bg==','2lhfgnk4',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5788,0,10611,0,'209.124.32.246',1109607544,1,1,1,1,'Re: Show application','I\'m glad we came home when we did. We\'re supposed to get 5-9 inches of snow today, and it\'s already coming down.\r\n\r\nI got your avatar added. Let me know if you need it changed.','',0,0,'Bg==','fidb90gj',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5795,0,459,0,'64.136.27.229',1109690394,1,1,1,0,'Re: Show application','Chris:\r\n\r\nThe avatar looks great. When you have time to get the picture out for those glass jars that the HPOCA bought from the Midwest Chapter, here is the description:\r\n\r\n2005 HPOCA Winter Get - Together Apothecary Jar. 6\" high and 4\" in diameter. Limited quantity available. Price $6.00.\r\n\r\nIf you could shoot pictures of both sides like you did of the Oliver Travel mug, everyone would get the full effect of the item. Also, since it is a new item for us, if it isn\'t too much trouble, could you place it at the top of the store page so everyone would see it first.\r\n\r\nOn another topic: I want to start running an ad for the New &amp; Improved 2006 Oliver Calendar in the April/May issue of the Magazine. I was wondering how much space you can legally give the Cornbelt for this? For the 2005 calendar we were using a half page. I was wondering if I could go slightly larger say to 2/3 page. We also want to run the tractor ride ad 1 more time and that will be the last time for that until 2006.\r\n\r\nThanks for everything!\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'Bg==','squtqjlm',0,0,'u_10611','',0),(5796,0,10611,0,'209.124.32.184',1109692263,1,1,1,1,'Re: Show application','We have gotten about 6 inches of snow so far with a couple more on the way they say. So I\'ve been staying in and working on HPOCA web site stuff. I should be able to get to your requests today.\r\n\r\nAs to the ad. Right now it\'s looking like the May/June issue is going to be really full, so we may have to start enforcing the one free page limit for chapters. The cornbelt collectors could pay for the extra space if you need it, but we just won\'t know for sure until some of this stuff gets laid out. Send in what you want to do and we\'ll see how it fits, and go from there.','',0,0,'Bg==','3hzebq94',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5799,0,12,0,'69.128.201.235',1109712362,1,1,1,0,'Test','Test','',0,0,'Bg==','1wwlo5xw',0,0,'u_12','',0),(5801,0,306,0,'203.220.224.140',1109715576,1,1,1,0,'psb 6a INJECTOR PUMP','John, Thanks for your reply. Its not what I wanted to hear as these pumps are as scarce as hens teeth here in Aust. I have had one made and it appears to work although I am now setting up the injectors to work with same. Have not taken a photo but when I do I will send it to you as well as a photo of finished tractor. \r\nKeep you posted \r\nRegards Campbell Black','',0,0,'Bg==','2aiovhmb',0,0,'u_96','',0),(5802,0,10611,0,'209.124.33.9',1109781500,1,1,1,1,'Back issues','Larry,\r\n\r\nI talked to John, and he said you had taken the HPOCA trailer home.\r\n\r\nWe have an order for a back issue that we are out of, and I was wondering if you could check the trailer for a copy of the March/April 2003 issue. If you have one, let me know, and we\'ll see about shipping arrangements.\r\n\r\nThanks,','',0,0,'Bg==','bhxcs4q8',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5810,0,10611,0,'209.124.32.174',1109905589,1,1,1,1,'Re: Back issues','Larry, \r\n\r\nThanks for looking.  It was listed as sold out in the Jan/Feb issue, but I guess he was hoping, or ordered out of an older issue. We\'ll have to get in touch with him and see if there\'s something else he might like, or refund the extra money.\r\n\r\nThanks again. And if you run out of snow, we have plenty here.','',0,0,'Bg==','aw1rfy2j',0,0,'u_238','',0),(5811,0,10611,0,'209.124.32.149',1109942602,1,1,1,1,'Re: Show application','Marc,\r\n\r\nI finally got the candy jar in the store. Let me know if it needs fixing in any way.\r\n\r\nI want to get a new store set up that either one of us can administrate. I\'m going to look into software to see what I can find in the free price range. Any particular features that you would like to see?','',0,0,'Bg==','268j7e1p',0,0,'u_459','',0),(5814,0,459,0,'63.26.237.7',1109946125,1,1,1,0,'Re: Show application','Chris:\r\n\r\nIt looks good. Hopefully we will sell some of these. I sort of got roped into this one. It is supposed to be a way to help out The Midwest Chapter so they wouldn\'t be stuck with them. Were you planning on having the 2 page HPOCA Merchandise listing near the back of the May/June issue of the Collector? If so we should include this item so people will know about it that arent internet users.\r\n\r\nAs far as the web store software goes, I am sort of a novice. I really don\'t know what to ask for in the area of features. Sue &amp; i had our own website when we were selling the Oliver puzzles. That was 3-4 years ago. We used Miva Corp. software and that was far from FREE.\r\n\r\nThanks for everything!\r\n\r\n--Marc--','',0,0,'Bg==','2b4c2tv6',0,0,'u_10611','',0);
