That is exactly why all the proposed changes should be put in the magazine, so that EVERYLAST  memeber has a equal chance to veiw the changes. All changes should be acompanyied with the existing by law for comparision. That is what this is all about Andy. It dont have a darn thing to do with Sherry, #3, or any other issue other than this secrecy theme which seems to rule the roast in this organization. ANYTHING, I REPEAT ANYTHING that is to be voted on should be TOTALLY outlined in the only complete method of communication this club has and that is the magazine. Anything less and this organization is never gonna rebuild its credabilty. This hpoca forum is the polictal room of the organization. People who dont want to deal with the politics need not come in here or sign up. Its their choice. I find it ludicrious to think that people dont want to be involved because of the conflicts. They now have the choice of stayin clear of them if they so choose. However, some of us choose to be involved mostly because it has become very apparent that in recent descions, personnel agendas have been very prominent in the decsion making process. Until the current BOD becomes more member freindly and cummunicates all decision making honestly with membership, conflicts are going to do nothing but increase. The remedy for all the conflicts is very simple Andy, open up and communicate with EVERYBODY equally on this web site and in the magazine, and in time i know for a fact, it would all go away. Failure to do that, become honest and forthright with membership or even go to the extreme of closing down the web site will eventually destroy the whole organization.   Have a nice day Andy  Bob