IF the complainers would read the magazine they would see that presidents post is up for re-election and IF they have sooo much input they or a member of that group would run for president then all their posts would be irrevalent !!! I am tired, as are others, of the continual b******* on this forum which is no doubt driving real paticipants away from this forum .  I was at the winter convention and sat right at the front of the general meeting so I would not miss anything and heard very few questions from the floor . Where were the renegades? I personally talked with Terry and in no damn closet ,asked hard to the point questions and recieved answers. Talked at length with Andy and bylaw committee putting forth positive ideas, not back stabbing namecalling on this forum , and had answers from him and the commitee when I was done.Talked with Sherry and I am a subscriber to Oliver Heritage as well as a proud charter member of HPOCA  [#316] I am unable to attend the summer show due to work commitments ,but I can  retire in 16 months and at that time plan on being more involved in HPOCA affairs. Contact me if you wish. Respectfully Grant Thede   #316 <!-- e --><a href="mailto:thedesolivers@bmts.com">thedesolivers@bmts.com</a><!-- e --> 519 389 9695