As a long time member [#316] I try to attend as many Oliver functions as I can . We have been to  the winter conventions since in Collinsville illinois in 1992 , and have made some summer conventions and exibited at the closer ones to us. We are  a 4 hour drive north of  Detriot in Canada. Also belong to the Oliver Gang chapter of HPOCA and their closest meeting so far has been about 300 miles. Sometimes distance and farm work get in the way but I think commitment to what you believe in makes differance in member. When I first joined there was very little Oliver info and I know the local oliver/cockshutt dealers were relieved that I wasn&#039;t bugging them ! And I have since signed up some of them as members. Through the years there have been differances in the orginization of the HPOCA  and the members and in ANY orginization there will be disagreements! I think through all of these problems the orginization has gotten stronger along with bigger. The concept of a national website is maybe 3 years old ,this site a year old and there are some growing pains with it. Just look at the magazine and the changes that has gone through in the past years. people being people will disagree the computor doesn&#039;t allow face to face discussion so it doesn&#039;t allow the  same interaction say a phone call would. Thats why I posted a few days ago for people  to look at what  the clubs purpose is . Those five items that seem to be overlooked in the heat of the argument. Most important part is have FUN. I&#039;ve never met a stranger at a oliver function just a friend I didn&#039;t know I had. Grant Thede