I have read all these posts with exceptional interest. I think I'd like to comment and possibly do my part to help the club. Thanks goes to Canada Grant for inspiring such a brain storm. More about that later.

  1st, Larry I think you have made an excellent choice with Ed Brandt to chair an appointed committee. I have met Ed and found him to be a likeable, upstanding fellow. By his postings on this forum and talking to him in person. I know Ed is not wishy washy and doesn't waiver in his thoughts/beliefs. A quality Ed, you should be proud of. The same quality we have seen in Landis Zimmerman.

    I think we have to ask, however,  Ed when does your membership come up for renewal? If it is anytime in the near future are you planning on renewing. My own renewal comes up in 9 mos. or so. I at this stage of the game am not planning on renewing. I don't see any difference I could make in 9 mos. anyway. However if someone, like Ed Brandt does step up. My mind may quickly change.   Ed Brandt,  if you don't want the job. I cannot blame you and it certainly won't change my thoughts of you! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> 

I have long believed that chapters should hold most of the control of HPOCA. However before doing so there must be a total restructuring of HPOCA and its by-laws.  I have thought through many of the problems that may occur letting chapters run the club now as it stands. For some of those problems I have found resolvent but again it would be a massive restructuring of the club. 

I don't believe its a good idea to put in chapters temporarily or until the next election. Then after the election go back to how it was. WE MUST find ways to keep what has happened from happening again!!  I cannot emphasize enough that putting chapters in control, I believe can and will stop cliques from forming and taking control of the club. <!-- s:!: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_exclaim.gif" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation" /><!-- s:!: --> 

Now the thought Canada Grant has inspired.  Mr. Thede I for one am concerned about the future of this club. I would love to have one good reason to renew. So far I can't find it. My voice in this club falls upon deaf ears, as do so many others. I am not concerned with what is going on in the lives of our directors but what they are doing for my club and if their actions have actually been for the good of HPOCA and not for their own personal gain. However your post as I said inspired thought.

IF THE PRESIDENT AND B.O.D. DOESN'T WISH TO COME TO US! WE MUST GO TO THEM!!!!

and this is why I am establishing an e-mailing list. This list will include Terry Allen, if he wishes to take part and any other members who would like to join. No matter where they stand on the issues. This maybe a good way for Terry to set at ease skeptical minds   <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> 

If you wish to belong to this list and ask the president questions. You may send me a PM or email me at   <!-- e --><a href="mailto:dannytabor2000@yahoo.com">dannytabor2000@yahoo.com</a><!-- e -->

Please leave your full name with your email address. If you do not I will not take you seriously and won't ad you to the list!  I will give Terry Allen two days to respond to this post. Whether he wishes to be apart of this list or not. I believe it would be best for him to respond on the forum as we can discuss rules of engagement w/ emails sent. 

If Terry doesn't respond within 2 days I will send him an email of my idea on having an ask the president mailing list. If he says NO, on either count. The topic will be dropped. I will inform all others on the list and on this forum. If Mr. Allen doesn't respond after 1 week (7 days) of my sending him the email. I will again inform those on the list and forum, we will know where members stand w/ the president and allow it to drop!

I believe it would be best for the President to give his answer on this hpoca forum. I think it would look better for him. no matter what his choice would be!

Again my intentions on making this list is not to bash anybody but to get some answers to the questions asked on the forum.

Thank you
Danny Tabor #747 don't mean much but yeah I'm proud of who I am!!

a Renegade!  <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->