We're old...but happy...and we love to ride Mountain Bikes. We wine a little and whine alot.  We need to switch that. We have young children who whine even more.  That's where we learned it. We think it is like a great get-away to go ride our bikes for 24 hours...a vacation...a rest from the usual trials of child rearing. We all admire each other tremendously and love to be in the desert riding our bikes together.