(6894,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189806780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best films of the 90s','Great list arsaib! \r\n\r\nAs usual we have some in common and I need to see the rest as well as rewatch a couple. What can I say, keep the lists coming!','5d6f7e8edb9d9daf216046f4d6585e86',0,'','G1TFkuKw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6895,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190015160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best films of the 90s','Glad to see the information for these films, don\'t stop now, only a few more letters to go.','e2730a7bc06acb643aaa3ee5346ae515',0,'','8eqYH2uG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6896,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190015760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best films of the 90s','Thanks for the encouragement. For reference\'s sake, I\'m also adding the world premiere year.','ea9897e1cd46d1fd3a755402fd231e4b',0,'','WlzYD1Qy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6897,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190157540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best films of the 90s','I listed my films by year so seeing how you went alphabetically that would make plenty of sense.','26281e86ac104e0a512ce10b66e3568a',0,'','ZeKcDMw3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6898,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198401060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best films of the 90s','Instead of delaying it any further, I\'ll just add a letter or two every day.','044b6e89d98307c999bab2bd4e292a3b',0,'','keFUVgHK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6899,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198423620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best films of the 90s','At least make some small dents. Looking at your list there are a few films I need to see, a few I agree with, and a couple more that would most likely never find their way on a list of mine. I\'m sure I\'ve spoken about it elsewhere but Egoyan\'s Exotica is absolute rubbish.','aa4a9209f175f96d85486f7d014c6e3c',0,'','7Qtor54Z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6900,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198480560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best films of the 90s','I believe you once compared it to a late-night Shannon Tweed flick. And then the sound you heard was me falling off a chair.','a2edd3a6020487996fc2ec056e9ca939',0,'','7RaGLK5p',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6901,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198481220,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best films of the 90s','I stand by it. I\'ve enjoyed the other three Egoyan films I\'ve seen, particularly Ararat.','881c7cab7000b0f11f480d7f32c2fbe3',0,'','xSzn5YG8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6902,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198611060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best films of the 90s','And I didn\'t like Ararat due to its heavy-handedness, an aspect which has unfortunately crept into Egoyan\'s work, at least his fiction films, since Felicia\'s Journey. I hate to say it but I hope you give Exotica another chance somewhere down the line.','5caae85593ce0c1364759bd7640bb8f3',0,'','ruShanWo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6903,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198642740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best films of the 90s','Perhaps but I have a lot more Egoyan to get to. I was planning on having a mini-retro of his work about a year and a half ago and that resulted in one film (Felicia\'s Journey).','72e582d4d8e8def044375f9910d9a99f',0,'','vFbAjRPG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6904,1509,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198774680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best films of the 90s','I have to side with arsaib on this one. \r\n\r\nRewatched Felicias Journey some time sgo (which had been a favorite of mine), and i think \"heavy-handedness\" is the correct term. I was not impressed by Ararat, either (and i even saw it at the cinema). Need to revisit Exotica, though. What I remember from it, was that I simply did not understand much of the film. It seemed somehow ahead of me, a riddle I was not able to decipher to a satisfying degree. But I also need to see more of his work.','a54dd8d76a3eaffeae609c51839e052c',0,'','TxbDGlzR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6905,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125628380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Your overall Top 100 films','After the foreign and american -threads, I`m interested in your overall top 100.\r\nYou may want to contribute here: www.imdb.com/board/bd0000010/thread/25406961\r\nas this prompted me to make a new Top 100 \r\n\r\nAfter trying VERY hard, I had to admit my defeat. 100 is just too limited. Instead here is a very impulsive 100 great, in no order whatsoever:\r\n\r\nDead Man (1995 / Jim Jarmusch) \r\n2001 - A Space Odyssey (1968 / Stanley Kubrick) \r\nVertigo (1958 / Alfred Hitchcock) \r\nArizona Dream (1993 / Emir Kusturica) \r\nCity Lights (1931 / Charles Chaplin) \r\nEternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004 / Michel Gondry) \r\nFingers (1978 / James Toback) \r\nZabriskie Point (1970 / Michelangelo Antonioni) \r\nLeaving Las Vegas (1995 / Mike Figgis) \r\nBlue Velvet (1986 / David Lynch) \r\nStranger than Paradise (1983 / Jim Jarmusch) \r\nBonnie and Clyde (1967 / Arthur Penn) \r\nBeing John Malkovich (1999 / Spike Jonze) \r\nGroundhog Day (1993 / Harold Ramis) \r\nTwelve Monkeys (1995 / Terry Gilliam) \r\nThe Royal Tenenbaums (2001 / Wes Anderson) \r\nFearless (1993 / Peter Weir) \r\nThe Unbearable Lightness of Being (1988 / Philip Kaufman) \r\nCity of Angels (1998 / Brad Silberling) \r\nGlengarry Glen Ross (1992 / James Foley) \r\nSweet and Lowdown (1999 / Woody Allen) \r\nThe Nightmare Before Christmas (1993 / Henry Selick) \r\nPunch-Drunk Love (2002 / Paul Thomas Anderson) \r\nThe Princess Bride (1987 / Rob Reiner) \r\nAdaptation. (2002 / Spike Jonze) \r\nGerry (2002 / Gus Van Sant) \r\nCast Away (2000 / Robert Zemeckis) \r\nMonster\'s Ball (2001 / Marc Forster) \r\nBuffalo \'66 (1998 / Vincent Gallo) \r\nJFK (1991 / Oliver Stone) \r\nCatch Me If You Can (2002 / Steven Spielberg) \r\n21 Grams (2003 / Alejandro Gonzlez I&#324;rritu) \r\n1900 (1976 / Bernardo Bertolucci / France, Italy, West Germany) \r\nAlphaville, une trange aventure de Lemmy Caution \"Alphaville\" (1965 / Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nAndrei Rublyov \"Andrei Rublev\" (1966 / Andrei Tarkovski / Soviet Union) \r\nAvalon (2001 / Mamoru Oshii / Poland, Japan) \r\nBarry Lyndon (1975 / Stanley Kubrick / UK) \r\nBrother (1999 / Australia / Adam Benjamin Elliot) \r\nBu jian \"The Missing\" (2003 / Lee Kang-sheng / Taiwan) \r\nBungalow (2002 / Ulrich Khler / Germany) \r\nMoe no Suzaku \"Suzaku (1996 / Japan / Naomi Kawase)\r\nClo de 5 &#341; 7 \"Cleo from 5 to 7\" (1961 / France, Italy / Agn&#269;s Varda) \r\nDeus E o Diabo na Terra do Sol \"Black God, White Devil\" (1964 / Glauber Rocha / Brazil) \r\nDie Bergkatze \"The Wildcat\" (1921 / Ernst Lubitsch / Germany) \r\nDjango (1966 / Sergio Corbucci / Italy, Spain, France) \r\nDuo luo tian shi \"Fallen Angels\" (1995 / Wong Kar-wai / Hong Kong) \r\nEl Topo (1970 / The Mole / Alejandro Jodorowsky / Mexico) \r\nEl viaje The Voyage (1992 / Argentina, Mexico, UK, Spain, France / Fernando E. Solanas) \r\nEureka (2000 / Japan / Shinji Aoyama) \r\nGod sobaki \"The Year of a Dog\" (1993 / Semyon Aranovich / Russia, France) \r\nGoff in der Wste \"Goff in the desert\" (2002 / Heinz Emigholz / Germany) \r\nGoto, l\'le d\'amour \"Goto, Island of Love\" (1968 / Walerian Borowczyck / France) \r\nHable con ella \"Talk to her\" (2002 / Pedro Almodovar / Spain) \r\nHana-bi \"Fireworks\" (1997 / Takeshi Kitano / Japan) \r\nHaonan haonu Good Men, Good Women (1995 / Taiwan, Japan / Hsiao-hsien Hou) \r\nIdioterne \"The Idiots\" (1998 / Lars von Trier / Denmark, and others) \r\nDai-bosatsu toge \"Sword of Doom\" (1965 / Kihachi Okamoto / Japan)\r\nJin-R \"Jin Roh: The Wolf Brigade\" (1998 / Hiroyuki Okiura / Japan) \r\nKlassenverhltnisse Class Relations (1984 / West Germany, France / Dani&#269;le Huillet, Jean-Marie Straub) \r\nKkaku kidtai \"Ghost in the Shell\" (1995 / Mamoru Oshii / Japan) \r\nL\'amant \"The Lover\" (1992 / Jean-Jacques Annaud / France, UK, Vietnam) \r\nL\'appartement \"The Apartment\" (1996 / Gilles Mimouni / France) \r\nL\'enfant de l\'hiver \"Winters Child\" (1989 / Olivier Assayas / France) \r\nLa Jete \"The Pier\" (1962 / Chris Marker / France) \r\nLa maman et la putain \"The mother and the whore\" (1973 / France / Jean Eustache) \r\nLe Mpris \"Contempt\" (1964 / Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nLes enfants du paradis \"Children of paradise\" (1945 / France / Marcel Carne) \r\nLos Amantes del Crculo Polar \"The Lovers of the Arctic Circle\" (1998 / Julio Medem / Spain) \r\nMarseille (2004 / Angela Schanelec / Germany) \r\nMes petites amoureuses (1974 / France / Jean Eustache) \r\nMonsieur Hire (1989 / France / Patrice Leconte) \r\nMoonlighting (1982 / Jerzy Skolimowski / UK, West Germany) \r\nNaked (1993 / Mike Leigh / UK) \r\nOtaku (1994 / Jean-Jacques Beineix, Jackie Bastide / France) \r\nParis, Texas (1984 / West Germany, France / Wim Wenders) \r\nPlaytime (1967 / Jacques Tati / France) \r\nPola X (1999 / France / Leos Carax) \r\nPossession (1981 / Andrzej Zulawski / France, West Germany) \r\nRessources humaines Human Resources (1999 / France, UK / Laurent Cantet) \r\nRosa Luxemburg (1986 / Margharethe von Trotta / West Germany) \r\nSaint-Cyr \"The Kings Daughters\" (2000 / Patricia Mazuy / France) \r\nSayat Nova \"Color of Pomegranates\" (1968 / Sergej Paradjanov / Soviet Union) \r\nSedmikrasky \"Daisies\" (1966 / Vera Chytilov / Czechoslovakia) \r\nSon frere \"His Brother\" (2003 / Patrice Chereau / France) \r\nSuna no onna \"Woman in the Dunes\" (1964 / Hiroshi Teshigahara / Japan) \r\nThe Butcher Boy (1997 / Neil Jordan / Ireland) \r\nThe Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (1989 / Peter Greenaway / UK) \r\nThe Reflecting Skin (1990 / Philip Ridley / UK, Canada) \r\nTo vlemma tou Odyssea \"Ulysse\'s Gaze\" (1995 / Greece / Theo Angelopoulos) \r\nTopzu \"Tokyo Decadence\" (1992 / Japan / Ryu Murakami) \r\nTrys dienos \"Three Days\" (1991 / Soviet Union / Sharunas Bartas) \r\nUmberto D. (1952 / Italy / Vittorio De Sica) \r\nUn chien andalou \"An andalusian dog\" (1928 / Luis Bunuel, Salvador Dali / France) \r\nUnter der Milchstrae \"Under the Milky Way\" (1995 / M.X. Oberg / Germany) \r\nUttara \"The Wrestlers\" (2000 / Buddhadev Dasgupta / India) \r\nVerrckt bleiben - verliebt bleiben (1997 / Germany / Elfi Mikesch) \r\nXiao cheng zhi chun \"Springtime in a small town\" (2002 / Tian Zhuangzhuang / China) \r\nXich Lo \"Cyclo\" (1995 / Vietnam, France / Tran Anh Hung) \r\nYing xiong \"Hero\" (2002 / Zhang Yimou / China, Hong Kong) \r\nZhantai \"Platform\" (2000 / Zhang Ke Jia / China, Hong Kong, France) \r\nZina (1985 / Ken McMullen / UK)','05303eecf72da9ad4d233f3f20fbd8dc',0,'','gSYhvWdt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6906,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125639480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','One film I noticed near the bottom (as it looked somewhat alphabetical) was Jia Zhang-Ke\'s Platform, which is the only one of his films in print in the US I haven\'t seen. I believe Rosenbaum cited it as his favorite, so my expectations are officially high for it. I still have to tinker with the foreign list. I\'m not quite ready to remake my overall 100, I don\'t think enough changes would be in order. Still need some OTHER people to start chiming in.','ff60593ad9ea2c8cc26b8befe8d44bfc',0,'','gplYyziv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6907,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125645660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','Well, I`ve had a terrible night, a terrible day, and a terrible year, and as I was just in the middle of my rambling about my terrible life, and was actually going to talk to somebody ( tell it on a messageboard in every detail ) we actually had a blackout. I mean we realy had a blackout, like for thirty seconds, and if this isn`t a sign of god, than I don`t know what is.\r\nAnyway, I won`t bother you with my life, suffice to say, that I just watched \"After Hours\", and I was the whole time desperately wishing to exchange my life with Griffin Dunne`s...\r\nSooo, I just wanted to say, in short, that I seem to remember a time when the board was actually alive, and I wasn`t only talking with four people, and I also wanted to apologize for my miserable overall 100 list, which was really an impulsive compilation, as I threw out almost all pre 1990 movies because of a whim (I honestly thought for a moment, that pre 1990 cinema is almost completely bullshit, and that only after the 90s and with Hollywood films things started to get better, so I took a chance, and the result is on display above). I was just too proud to admit defeat at compiling a personal 100 best (let alone ranked - what a crude joke ), so I figured I had to print SOMETHING, and, well i don`t know.\r\nI don`t want to bore you anymore, and I`m not drunk (although i know this is the typical line ), but, participate in this poll if you like: www.imdb.com/board/bd0000010/thread/25406961\r\nThese are my final words for tonight.\r\nGoodbye und Au Revoir.','dfd118d82192beeab07435921996e38a',0,'','doqP9KFr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6908,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1135734480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','1.Sansho the Bailiff (Mizoguchi)\r\n2.Mirror (Tarkovsky)\r\n3.Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)\r\n4.Paris, Texas (Wenders)\r\n5.The Green Ray (Rohmer)\r\n6.2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)\r\n7.Celine and Julie go Boating (Rivette)\r\n8.Maborosi (Kore-eda)\r\n9.L\'Avventura (Antonioni)\r\n10.Sunrise (Murnau)\r\n11.North by Northwest (Hitchcock)\r\n12.Alice in the Cities (Wenders)\r\n13.Some Like it Hot (Wilder)\r\n14.La Regle du Jeu (Renoir)\r\n15.Tales of the Taira Clan (Mizoguchi)\r\n16.Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)\r\n17.Tokyo Story (Ozu)\r\n18.Vertigo (Hitchcock)\r\n19.Pather Panchali (Ray)\r\n20.Letter from an Unknown Woman (Ophuls)\r\n21.Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (Mizoguchi)\r\n22.Innocence (Hadzihalilovic)\r\n23.Mulholland Dr (Lynch)\r\n24.Pierrot le Fou (Godard)\r\n25.Abraham Valley (Oliveira)\r\n26.The Band Wagon (Minnelli)\r\n27.Casablanca (Curtiz)\r\n28.8 1/2 (Fellini)\r\n29.The Colour of Pomegranates (Paradjanov)\r\n30.A Day in the Country (Renoir)\r\n31.Singin in the Rain (Kelly, Donen)\r\n32.Night of the Hunter (Laughton)\r\n33.Howl\'s Moving Castle (Miyazaki)\r\n34.Citizen Kane (Welles)\r\n35.Ugetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)\r\n36.Late Spring (Ozu)\r\n37.The Searchers (Ford)\r\n38.The Shining (Kubrick)\r\n39.The Double Life of Veronique (Kieslowski)\r\n40.Eternity and a Day (Angelopoulos)\r\n41.L\'Atalante (Vigo)\r\n42.The Life of Oharu (Mizoguchi)\r\n43.Stalker (Tarkovsky)\r\n44.Top Hat (Sandrich)\r\n45.Metropolis (Lang)\r\n46.Spirit of the Beehive (Erice)\r\n47.Persona (Bergman)\r\n48.To Be or Not to Be (Lubitsch)\r\n49.Orphee (Cocteau)\r\n50.Pakeezah (Amrohi)\r\n+\r\nClaire\'s Knee (Rohmer)\r\nKings of the Road (Wenders)\r\nManhattan (Allen)\r\nThe Age of Innocence (Scorsese)\r\nAocalypse Now (Coppola)\r\nRaging Bull (Scorsese)\r\nMy Night with Maud (Rohmer)\r\nLes Enfants du Paradis (Carne)\r\nThe Big Sleep (Hawks)\r\nUlysses\' Gaze (Angelopoulos)\r\nTale of Tales(Norstein)\r\nBrazil (Gilliam)\r\nCasque d\'Or (Becker)\r\nBattleship Potemkin (Eisenstein)\r\nOnce Upon a Time in America (Leone)\r\nStreet of Crocodiles (Quay bros)\r\nDr Strangelove (Kubrick)\r\nKiss me Deadly (Aldrich)\r\nKind Hearts and Coronets (Hamer)\r\nAlexander Nevsky (Eisenstein)\r\nThe General (Keaton, Bruckman)\r\nMan with a Movie Camera (Vertov)\r\nHiroshima mon Amour (Resnais)\r\nEl Cid (A.Mann)\r\nMy Girlfriend\'s Boyfriend (Rohmer)\r\nThe Sheltering Sky (Bertolucci)\r\nGroundhog Day (Ramis)\r\nThe Apartment (Wilder)\r\nMarnie (Hitchcock)\r\nCrouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee)\r\nBlue Velvet (Lynch)\r\nLa Grande Illusion (Renoir)\r\nCloud-Capped Star (Ghatak)\r\nLawrence of Arabia (Lean)\r\nDogville (Von Trier)\r\nNosferatu (Murnau)\r\nNight of the Shooting Stars (Taviani bros)\r\nAguirre Wrath of God (Herzog)\r\nThe Return (Zvyagintsev)\r\nHidden Fortress (Kurosawa)\r\nMadame de (Ophuls)\r\nBefore Sunset (Linklater)\r\nIt Happened One Night (Capra)\r\nThe Maltese Falcon (Huston)\r\nThe Thief of Bagdad (Berger, Powell, Whelan)\r\nOrdet (Dreyer)\r\nWerckmeister Harmonies (Tarr)\r\nSenso (Visconti)\r\nThe Gold Rush (Chaplin)\r\nThe Red Shoes (Powell, Pressburger)\r\n\r\nbubbling under:\r\n\r\nThe Human Condition (Kobayashi)\r\nThe Loyal 47 Ronin (Mizoguchi)\r\nRosetta (Dardenne bros)\r\nDuck Soup (McCarey)\r\nThe Wayward Cloud (Tsai)\r\nThe Life Aquatic (W.Anderson)\r\nEureka (Aoyama)\r\nEarly Summer (Ozu)\r\nOnce upon a Time in the West (Leone)\r\nSpies (Lang)\r\nFall of Leaves (Iosseliani)\r\nChungking Express (Wong Kar-Wai)\r\nRed Sorghum (Zhang Yimou)\r\nKwaidan (Kobayashi)\r\nClose Up (Kiarostami)\r\nGertrud (Dreyer)\r\nThe Leopard (Visconti)\r\nMadchen in Uniform (Sagan)\r\nSunset Boulevard (Wilder)\r\nContempt (Godard)\r\nMiss Oyu (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Sacrifice (Tarkovsky)\r\nLa Notte (Antonioni)\r\nIvan the Terrible (Eisenstein)\r\nBarry Lyndon (Kubrick)\r\nThe Mother and the Whore (Eustache)\r\nGoto, Isle of Love (Borowczyk)\r\nSalt for Svanetia (Kalatazov)\r\nDeliverance (Boorman)\r\nLandscape in the Mist (Angelopoulos)','8477d76e9871a685d0feb5c9e33b034d',0,'','5nyfKG3T',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6909,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1135896720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','Just out of curiosity have you had a chance to see Wrong Movement/False Movement from Wenders? It is undoubtedly my favorite film of his, and is an absolutely brilliant compliment to Alice in the Cities, and Kings of the Road. I may also be hyping it more than necessary, but that\'s just to be expected.','5c0553aa0a00bbe536d4d6cdad210304',0,'','hmScfPVz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6910,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137109620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','You\'ve mentioned this before, so shame on me i still haven\'t!! It really doesn\'t get much attention does it? Perhaps partly cos of the decline in WW\'s reputation, but it\'s even less well known than the wonderful but neglected Alice. Too many critics have run for cover since his work went downhill, seem to be denying the quality of his early work (same thing happens in pop music etc- it seems better for an artist\'s early work if they die or quit before their standard drops, but really if the early stuff is genuinely good, it should still be appreciated, whatever the later career failings.) In short, i stand by early Wim.','bf52eb592402452809a97ee34724e69f',0,'','QusA1PMC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6911,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137187860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','As do I. I still haven\'t seen Kings of the Road, I\'m patiently awaiting it\'s DVD release which I think would be inevitable. I\'ve heard about possibly a boxed set of Wenders earlier films coming out, but nothing has been confirmed yet. Also curious to see Tokyo-Ga.','6bbdf9378c612c2899a909c282ed8959',0,'','bJFkN3lP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6912,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1139496660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'MikLosk','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','Hi to everyone! I\'m back again after long-long illness. My first post will be my current top100. Here it is in chronological order. * marks flawless masterpiece (10/10)\r\n\r\nBattleship Potemkin (Sergey Eisenstein, 1925)*\r\nThe Gold Rush (Charles Chaplin, 1925)\r\nOctober (Sergey Eisenstein, 1927)\r\nGeneral (Buster Keaton, 1927)\r\nSunrise (F.W. Murnau, 1927)\r\nPassions of Joan of Arc (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1928 ) \r\nThe man with a movie camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)\r\nThe Earth (Alexander Dovzhenko, 1930)\r\nL\'Age d\'or (Luis Bunuel, 1930)\r\nCity Lights (Charles Chaplin, 1931)\r\nAtalanta (Jean Vigo, 1934)\r\nALexander Nevsky (Sergey Eisenstein, 1938 ) \r\nGrand Illusion (Jean Renoir, 1938 ) \r\nZangiku monogatari (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1939)\r\nRules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)\r\nCitizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)*\r\nDouble Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)\r\nIvan the Terrible (Sergey Eisenstein, 1945)\r\nLetter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophuls, 1948 ) \r\nSunset blvd (Billy Wilder, 1950)\r\nDiary of a Country Priest (Robert Bresson, 1951)*\r\nMadame de... (Max Ophuls, 1953)\r\nTokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu, 1953)\r\nUgetsu monogatari (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)*\r\nLa Strada (Federico Fellini, 1954)\r\nRear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)*\r\nSansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1954)*\r\nSeven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)\r\nPather Panchali (Satyajit Ray, 1955)\r\nOrdet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)\r\nA Man Escaped (Robert Bresson, 1956)\r\nSeventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)\r\nWild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)*\r\nLe Notti di Cabiria (Federico Fellini, 1957)*\r\nThe Cranes are flying (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1957)\r\nAparajito (Satyajit Ray, 1957)\r\nVertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958 ) \r\nNorth by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)\r\nSome like it hot (Billy Wilder, 1959)\r\nLa Dolce Vita (Federico Fellini, 1960)*\r\nL\'Avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1960)*\r\nBreathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)\r\nLa Notte (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1961)\r\nL\'Eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1962)\r\nIvan\'s Childhood (Andrey Tarkovksy, 1962)\r\nOtto e mezzo (Federico Fellini, 1963)*\r\nWinter light (Ingmar Bergman, 1963)\r\nIl Gattopardo (Luchino Visconti, 1963)\r\nSilence (Ingmar Bergman, 1963)\r\nCharulata (Satyajit Ray, 1964)\r\nIL Vangelo secondo Matteo (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1964)\r\nShadows of our forgotten ancestors (Sergey Parajanov,1964)*\r\nPierrot le fou (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)\r\nSimon of the Desert (Luis Bunuel, 1965)\r\nAlphaville (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)\r\nPersona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)*\r\nBlow up (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1966)\r\n2001: A Space Odyssey (Satnley Kubrick, 1968 )*\r\nAndrey Rublyov (Andrey Tarkovsky, 1969)*\r\nSayat Nova (Sergey Parajanov, 1969)*\r\nThe Damned (Luchino Visconti, 1969)\r\nTristana (Luis Bunuel, 1970)\r\nDeath in Venice (Luchino Visconti, 1971)\r\nClockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick, 1971)\r\nCries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, 1972)\r\nAmarcord (Federico Fellini, 1973)\r\nAlice in the Cities (Wim Wenders, 1974)\r\nBarry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)\r\nMirror (Andrey Tarkovsky, 1975)*\r\nIrony of Fate (Eldar Ryazanov, 1975)\r\nOrdinary Wonder (Mark Zakharov, 1978 ) \r\nStalker (Andrey Tarkovsky, 1979)\r\nDie Ehe der Maria Braun (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1979)\r\nThe Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)\r\nFanny and Alexander (Ingmar Bergman, 1982)*\r\nNight of the Shooting Stars (Paolo and Vittorio Taviani, 1982) \r\nNostalghia (Andrey Tarkovsky, 1983)*\r\nParade of the Planets (Vadim Abdrashitov, 1984)\r\nMy friend Ivan Lapshin (Alexei German, 1984)\r\nParis, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984)\r\nOffret (Andrey Tarkovsky, 1986)\r\nGreen Ray (Eric Rohmer, 1986)\r\nDays of Eclipse (Alexander Sokurov, 1988 ) \r\nDekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1989)\r\nNight Sun (Paolo and Vittorio Taviani, 1990)\r\nThree Colours: Blue (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1993)\r\nGroundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)\r\nThree Colours: Red (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1994)\r\nMaboroshi no hikari (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 1995)\r\nSeven (David Fincher, 1995)\r\nBreaking the Waves (Lars von Trier, 1996)\r\nSummer Tale (Eric Rohmer, 1996)\r\nMother and son (Alexander Sokurov, 1997)\r\nKhrustalyov, My Car! (Alexei German, 1998 )*\r\nAfter life (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 1998 ) \r\nThe Wind will carry us (Abbas Kioristami, 1999)\r\nHero (Yimou Zhang, 2002)\r\nDogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)\r\nNobody knows (Hirokazu Kore-eda, 2004)*\r\nHouse of Flying Daggers (Yimou Zhang, 2004)','c0d31ec0bd144e25abc1a20917282726',0,'','meQG3kPu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6913,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1139614500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','Glad to have you back. I must say your grading system is indeed a harsh one, as all the film in my top 100 would get my highest rating, but I\'m well aware that I judge films on a seemingly easier scale. As for the films on your list I\'ve seen a great deal of them, and can\'t argue with many, and am not too surprised at your choices. One of these days I swear I\'ll actually contribute to this thread with a list of my own without cheating.','2b453b1b32c7a7b2ae3031edfe83e65b',0,'','Rwha7fij',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6914,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142114160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','Nice list Mik, though I haven\'t seen all of them.\r\nOn my own Top 100 I would also mark maybe 20 as flawless masterpieces. I think there are only few movies that are really perfect.\r\nI\'ll make a similar thread as John on 500 or more favorites soon, where I\'ll make more distinctions','6f79bb0777117cb9bfd079a6c9ae5e29',0,'','Ht7UWP4C',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6915,1510,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198592520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your overall Top 100 films','As impossible as this task might be (still today) I do think I\'m up for trying again. I do think enough changes would be in effect, but there are a few of my sacred cows I\'d like to revisit because its been so long. Hell I don\'t think I\'ve seen all of Lawrence of Arabia for about 7 or more years, and that\'s in my top ten! Now that the director debacle is over, this might be a worthwhile project. There are always going to be films I need to see, but I\'ve certainly seen enough to get a good list together.','88aeda16aeb756cc84ea9f1afb23e7a4',0,'','Te2MEQ4y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6916,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125471720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Your 100 favorite foreign films','Now, this is really something we need!\r\nOn a site devoted to foreign films, the best-of lists of the members are sure to reveal films that need to be seen (again (and again (and again )))\r\nOK, I`ll start, and it was VERY difficult.\r\nHere are my 100 (and one) favorite foreign films:\r\nAfter trying very hard, I have to admit my failure in listing them from 1 to 100. Instead here`s a alphabetical list:\r\n\r\n1900 (1976 / Bernardo Bertolucci / France, Italy, West Germany) \r\nA Clockwork Orange (1971 / Stanley Kubrick / UK) \r\nAlphaville, une trange aventure de Lemmy Caution \"Alphaville\" (1965 / Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nAndrei Rublyov \"Andrei Rublev\" (1966 / Andrei Tarkovski / Soviet Union) \r\nAparajito The Unvanquished (1957 / India / Satyajit Ray)\r\nAvalon (2001 / Mamoru Oshii / Poland, Japan)\r\nBarry Lyndon (1975 / Stanley Kubrick / UK)\r\nBlackmail (sound version / 1929 / Alfred Hitchcock / UK) \r\nBlowup (1966 / Michelangelo Antonioni / UK) \r\nBrother (1999 / Australia / Adam Benjamin Elliot)\r\nBu jian \"The Missing\" (2003 / Lee Kang-sheng / Taiwan)\r\nBungalow (2002 / Ulrich Khler / Germany) \r\nCh\'ing shaonien na cha \"Rebels of the Neon God\" (1992 / Tsai Ming-liang / Taiwan)\r\nClo de 5 7 \"Cleo from 5 to 7\" (1961 / France, Italy / Agns Varda) \r\nCode inconnu: Rcit incomplet de divers voyages \"Code Unknown\" (2000 / Michael Haneke / France) \r\nCra cuervos \"Raise Ravens\" (1976 / Spain / Carlos Saura)\r\nDare mo shiranai Nobody Knows (2004 / Japan / Hirokazu Koreeda) \r\nDer Aufenthalt \"The Turning Point\" (1983 / Frank Beyer / East Germany) \r\nDeus E o Diabo na Terra do Sol \"Black God, White Devil\" (1964 / Glauber Rocha / Brazil) \r\nDie Bergkatze \"The Wildcat\" (1921 / Ernst Lubitsch / Germany) \r\nDie Verfehlung (1992 / Heiner Carow / Germany) \r\nDjango (1966 / Sergio Corbucci / Italy, Spain, France) \r\nDuo luo tian shi \"Fallen Angels\" (1995 / Wong Kar-wai / Hong Kong) \r\nEl Topo (1970 / The Mole / Alejandro Jodorowsky / Mexico) \r\nEl viaje The Voyage (1992 / Argentina, Mexico, UK, Spain, France / Fernando E. Solanas)\r\nEureka (2000 / Japan / Shinji Aoyama)\r\nFew of Us (1996 / Lithuania, Portugal, France, Germany / Sharunas Bartas)\r\nFrau fhrt, Mann schlft (2004 / Rudolf Thome / Germany)\r\nGanga Bruta (1933 / Brazil / Humberto Mauro)\r\nGod sobaki \"The Year of a Dog\" (1993 / Semyon Aranovich / Russia, France) \r\nGoff in der Wste \"Goff in the desert\" (2002 / Heinz Emigholz / Germany) \r\nGoto, l\'le d\'amour \"Goto, Island of Love\" (1968 / Walerian Borowczyck / France) \r\nHable con ella \"Talk to her\" (2002 / Pedro Almodovar / Spain)\r\nHana-bi \"Fireworks\" (1997 / Takeshi Kitano / Japan)\r\nHaonan haonu Good Men, Good Women (1995 / Taiwan, Japan / Hsiao-hsien Hou)\r\nIdioterne \"The Idiots\" (1998 / Lars von Trier / Denmark, and others)\r\nInsomnia (1997 / Erik Skjoldbjaerg / Norway) \r\nJesus\' Son (1999 / Alison Maclean / Canada, USA) \r\nJin-R \"Jin Roh: The Wolf Brigade\" (1998 / Hiroyuki Okiura / Japan) \r\nKlassenverhltnisse Class Relations (1984 / West Germany, France / Danile Huillet, Jean-Marie Straub) \r\nKkaku kidtai \"Ghost in the Shell\" (1995 / Mamoru Oshii / Japan) \r\nL\'amant \"The Lover\" (1992 / Jean-Jacques Annaud / France, UK, Vietnam) \r\nL\'appartement \"The Apartment\" (1996 / Gilles Mimouni / France) \r\nL\'enfant de l\'hiver \"Winters Child\" (1989 / Olivier Assayas / France) \r\nLa Bte \"The Beast\" (1975 / Walerian Borowczyck / France)\r\nLa bte humaine The Human Beast (1938, France, Jean Renoir) \r\nLa Jete \"The Pier\" (1962 / Chris Marker / France) \r\nLa maman et la putain \"The mother and the whore\" (1973 / France / Jean Eustache)\r\nLe Mpris \"Contempt\" (1964 / Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nLes enfants du paradis \"Children of paradise\" (1945 / France / Marcel Carne)\r\nLos Amantes del Crculo Polar \"The Lovers of the Arctic Circle\" (1998 / Julio Medem / Spain) \r\nLos lunes al sol \"Mondays in the Sun\" (2002 / Fernando Leon de Aranoa / Spain) \r\nMai fu \"Surveillance\" (1997 / Jianxin Huang, Yazhou Yang / China)\r\nMarseille (2004 / Angela Schanelec / Germany) \r\nMes petites amoureuses (1974 / France / Jean Eustache)\r\nMoe no suzaku (1997 / Japan / Naomi Kawase)\r\nMonsieur Hire (1989 / France / Patrice Leconte)\r\nMoonlighting (1982 / Jerzy Skolimowski / UK, West Germany)\r\nMortelle randonne \"Deadly run\" (1983 / Claude Miller / France) \r\nMoznosti dialogu \"Dimensions of Dialogue\" (1982 / Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia)\r\nMy Life Without Me (2003 / Isabel Coixet / Spain, Canada) \r\nNaked (1993 / Mike Leigh / UK) \r\nNebo. Samolyot. Devushka. \"Sky. Plane. Girl\" (2002 / Vera Storozheva / Russia)\r\nOtaku (1994 / Jean-Jacques Beineix, Jackie Bastide / France)\r\nParis, Texas (1984 / West Germany, France / Wim Wenders) \r\nPlaytime (1967 / Jacques Tati / France) \r\nPola X (1999 / France / Leos Carax) \r\nPossession (1981 / Andrzej Zulawski / France, West Germany)\r\nRan (1985 / Akira Kurosawa / Japan, France)\r\nRessources humaines Human Resources (1999 / France, UK / Laurent Cantet)\r\nRosa Luxemburg (1986 / Margharethe von Trotta / West Germany)\r\nRysopis \"Identification Marks: None\" (1964 / Jerzy Skolimowski / Poland)\r\nSaint-Cyr \"The Kings Daughters\" (2000 / Patricia Mazuy / France) \r\nSaikaku ichidai onna The Life of Oharu (1952 / Japan / Kenji Mizoguchi)\r\nSnger frn andra vningen \"Songs from the Second Floor\" (2000 / Roy Andersson / Sweden) \r\nSayat Nova \"Color of Pomegranates\" (1968 / Sergej Paradjanov / Soviet Union) \r\nSedmikrasky \"Daisies\" (1966 / Vera Chytilov / Czechoslovakia) \r\nShadow of the Vampire (2000 / E. Elias Merhige / UK, USA, Luxembourg) \r\nSon frre \"His Brother\" (2003 / Patrice Chereau / France) \r\nSuna no onna \"Woman in the Dunes\" (1964 / Hiroshi Teshigahara / Japan) \r\nTenshi no tamago Angels Egg (1985 / Japan / Mamoru Osh)\r\nThe Butcher Boy (1997 / Neil Jordan / Ireland) \r\nThe Claim (2000 / Michael Winterbottom / UK, France, Canada) \r\nThe Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (1989 / Peter Greenaway / UK) \r\nThe Piano (1993 / Jane Campion / Australia, New Zealand, France) \r\nThe Reflecting Skin (1990 / Philip Ridley / UK, Canada) \r\nTo vlemma tou Odyssea \"Ulysse\'s Gaze\" (1995 / Greece / Theo Angelopoulos)\r\nTopzu \"Tokyo Decadence\" (1992 / Japan / Ryu Murakami)\r\nTrois couleurs: Bleu \"Three Colors: Blue\" (1993 / Krzysztof Kieslowski / France, Poland, Switzerland, UK) \r\nTrys dienos \"Three Days\" (1991 / Soviet Union / Sharunas Bartas)\r\nUmberto D. (1952 / Italy / Vittorio De Sica) \r\nUn chien andalou \"An andalusian dog\" (1928 / Luis Bunuel, Salvador Dali / France) \r\nUnter der Milchstrae \"Under the Milky Way\" (1995 / M.X. Oberg / Germany) \r\nUttara \"The Wrestlers\" (2000 / Buddhadev Dasgupta / India)\r\nVerrckt bleiben - verliebt bleiben (1997 / Germany / Elfi Mikesch)\r\nXiao cheng zhi chun \"Springtime in a small town\" (2002 / Tian Zhuangzhuang / China) \r\nXich Lo \"Cyclo\" (1995 / Vietnam, France / Tran Anh Hung)\r\nYing xiong \"Hero\" (2002 / Zhang Yimou / China, Hong Kong)\r\nZhantai \"Platform\" (2000 / Zhang Ke Jia / China, Hong Kong, France) \r\nZina (1985 / Ken McMullen / UK)\r\n\r\n\r\nBy director:\r\n\r\nMamoru Oshi: 3\r\n\r\nJean Eustache: 2\r\nJean-Luc Godard: 2\r\nJerzy Skolimowski: 2\r\nSarunas Bartas: 2\r\nStanley Kubrick: 2\r\nWalerian Borowczyck: 2\r\n\r\nothers: 1\r\n\r\n\r\nBy country:\r\n\r\nFrance: 24\r\nJapan: 11\r\nUK: 11\r\nGermany: 8\r\nChina: 4\r\nSpain: 4\r\nWest Germany: 4\r\nItaly: 3\r\nSoviet Union: 3\r\nTaiwan: 3\r\nAustralia: 2\r\nBrazil: 2\r\nCanada: 2\r\nCzechoslovakia: 2\r\nIndia: 2\r\nPoland: 2\r\nRussia: 2\r\nArgentina: 1\r\nDenmark: 1\r\nEast Germany: 1\r\nGreece: 1\r\nHong Kong: 1\r\nIreland: 1\r\nLithuania: 1\r\nMexico: 1\r\nNorway: 1\r\nSweden: 1\r\nVietnam: 1\r\n\r\n\r\nBy decade:\r\n\r\n90s: 32\r\n00s: 22\r\n60s: 15\r\n80s: 14\r\n70s: 8\r\n50s: 3\r\n20s: 3\r\n30s: 2\r\n40s: 1\r\n\r\n.........................................................................................................................................','c7ea663f49b694144ea488680aba9082',0,'','2oCpxl1K',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6917,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125518880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Well UK films are going here I take it, or at least that\'s how you laid it down. As far as co-productions, I\'ll keep it as this, any film that wasn\'t \"eligible\" for my American list, I\'ll put on this. I have some work to do to make the list, a lot of work actually, and seeing Rebels of the Neon God on your list, I think I should watch that first, because it is sitting on my floor right now. BTW, shame on you for not numbering. I\'m probably not going to have enough patience to list every film by it\'s foreign as well as International title, so don\'t expect anything too technical. Where\'s John-5 when you need him, he was always good for lists.','33c8dbcfe3cd10e6d47a1c026e19721c',0,'','aqPpvYuN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6918,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1125529680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Yeah, haven`t seen him for a long time actually - or better \"read\" hm...\r\nI tried numbering for about 3 hours, but gave up after that. I can list my Top 30, and the bottom 30, but the films in between were too hard.','3a4aafaaac46433f49ea8b83ac837d41',0,'','TVgoUC2y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6919,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1126012800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','This is going to be tough but I\'ll give it a go, should have a list up in a few days.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.\r\n\r\nSorry taking much longer than I expected, I need more time on the PC.','233c8334a8c9265fa565689e3d5b23bc',0,'','8qQ71ULV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6920,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1126042560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Sara','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Me, too. After the coming weekend.\r\n\r\nI think I will do mine by directors.\r\n\r\nSara','94bf5966aadd296f8818257c2468e324',0,'','uxNnPqWF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6921,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1127344500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Sara','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','I\'m going to try to do it very soon. One thing - my list will only be foreign language films. So where does that leave the UK and Australia since we did not include them in our Top US films? (Or at least I didn\'t.)\r\n\r\nI think I will at least make a separate list of my top 50 UK/Australia/New Zealand films. There are some truly significant films from the UK, etc - and I want to make space for them since I only included US films in my other list.\r\n\r\nWhat do you think? \r\n\r\nSara','26bde7f6ac526ce6dc8674ee52738aac',0,'','1gKF9d0W',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6922,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1127354400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','I like the separate list idea, which wouldn\'t be too bad. The only thing is A set the precedent and as you can see he included UK films. So it depends, if I want to fit more films, then I\'ll try the separate list, if not I\'ll copy his format.','7483be4532869d695c04e0b90835508e',0,'','zH8TCX5h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6923,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1127709060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Why shouldn`t UK and Australia be included? I thought we are discussing non-US films...','1621b3b31490a27d2eae0a8f7fb3b23c',0,'','EnRrHkgz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6924,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1127767620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Sara','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','I guess there are several ways we could do this. It seems in the \"old days\" there was a list of 100 Top Foreign Language films and another called 100 Top Foreign films (which I would understand would be non USA and would include films from the UK, Australia, etc.)\r\n\r\nAnd now we have our Top 100 US films. And I did not include UK films in my list.\r\n\r\nI\'ll go either way on this. It\'s all right, but it does seem that the UK and Australia and New Zealand got cut out of our USA list. I just don\'t want them to get short changed. A lot of folks think of British film not as foreign film.\r\n\r\nShould we have a list of Top Foreign language film (non \r\nEnglish) and a list for Top English speaking films (US and UK, etc.?) Or a separate list for UK as we have a list for US films?\r\n\r\nSome of you folks figure this out and I\'ll go along. \r\n\r\nSara','6d9aa8bdd335be0bfbcf9f0b17a4191e',0,'','FA40xavl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6925,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1139159760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Not in English.\r\n\r\n1.Sansho the Bailiff (Mizoguchi)\r\n2.Mirror (Tarkovsky)\r\n3.Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)\r\n4.The Green Ray (Rohmer)\r\n5.Celine and Julie go Boating (Rivette)\r\n6.Maborosi (Kore-eda)\r\n7.L\'Avventura (Antonioni)\r\n8.Alice in the Cities (Wenders)\r\n9.La Regle du Jeu (Renoir)\r\n10.Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)\r\n11.Tales of the Taira Clan (Mizoguchi)\r\n12.Tokyo Story (Ozu)\r\n13.Pather Panchali (Ray)\r\n14.Story of the Late Chrysanthemums (Mizoguchi)\r\n15.Abraham Valley (Oliveira)\r\n16.Pierrot le Fou (Godard)\r\n17.Innocence (Hadzihalilovic)\r\n18.8 1/2 (Fellini)\r\n19.The Colour of Pomegranates (Paradjanov)\r\n20.The Double Life of Veronique (Kieslowski)\r\n21.A Day in the Country (Renoir)\r\n22.Howl\'s Moving Castle (Miyazaki)\r\n23.Ugetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)\r\n24.Late Spring (Ozu)\r\n25.Eternity and a Day (Angelopoulos)\r\n26.L\'Atalante (Vigo)\r\n27.The Life of Oharu (Mizoguchi)\r\n28.Stalker (Tarkovsky)\r\n29.Metropolis (Lang)\r\n30.Spirit of the Beehive (Erice)\r\n31.Persona (Bergman)\r\n32.Orphee (Cocteau)\r\n33.Pakeezah (Amrohi)\r\n34.Claire\'s Knee (Rohmer)\r\n35.Kings of the Road (Wenders)\r\n36.My Night with Maud (Rohmer)\r\n37.Les Enfants du Paradis (Carne)\r\n38.Ulysses\' Gaze (Angelopoulos)\r\n39.Tale of Tales(Norstein)\r\n40.Casque d\'Or (Becker)\r\n41.Hiroshima mon Amour (Resnais)\r\n42.Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein)\r\n43.Alexander Nevsky (Eisenstein)\r\n44.Man with a Movie Camera (Vertov)\r\n45.My Girlfriend\'s Boyfriend (Rohmer)\r\n46.Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee)\r\n47.La Grande Illusion (Renoir)\r\n48.Cloud-Capped Star (Ghatak)\r\n49.Nosferatu (Murnau)\r\n50.Night of the Shooting Stars (Taviani bros)\r\n+\r\nAguirre Wrath of God (Herzog)\r\nThe Return (Zvyagintsev)\r\nHidden Fortress (Kurosawa)\r\nMadame de (Ophuls)\r\nOrdet (Dreyer)\r\nWerckmeister Harmonies (Tarr)\r\nSenso (Visconti)\r\nGertrud (Dreyer)\r\nThe Human Condition (Kobayashi)\r\nThe Loyal 47 Ronin (Mizoguchi)\r\nRosetta (Dardenne bros)\r\nClose up (Kiarostami)\r\nThe Wayward Cloud (Tsai)\r\nEureka (Aoyama)\r\nEarly Summer (Ozu)\r\nSpies (Lang)\r\nFall of Leaves (Iosseliani)\r\nChungking Express (Wong Kar-Wai)\r\nRed Sorghum (Zhang Yimou)\r\nKwaidan (Kobayashi)\r\nClose Up (Kiarostami)\r\nMughal-e-Azam (Asif)\r\nThe Leopard (Visconti)\r\nMadchen in Uniform (Sagan)\r\nThe Chess Player (Bernard)\r\nContempt (Godard)\r\nMiss Oyu (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Sacrifice (Tarkovsky)\r\nLa Notte (Antonioni)\r\nIvan the Terrible (Eisenstein)\r\nThe Mother and the Whore (Eustache)\r\nA Short Film about Love (Kieslowski)\r\nThe Gospel according to St Matthew (Pasolini)\r\nThe Only Son (Ozu)\r\nDay of Wrath (Dreyer)\r\nGoto, Isle of Love (Borowczyk)\r\nSalt for Svanetia (Kalatazov)\r\nLandscape in the Mist (Angelopoulos)\r\nThree Colours Blue (Kieslowski)\r\nWhat Time is it There? (Tsai)\r\nRase the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou)\r\nMy Neighbour Totoro (Miyazaki)\r\nLa Dolce Vita (Fellini)\r\nTwo Stage Sisters (Xie Jin)\r\nDays and Nights in the Forest (Ray)\r\nThe End of Summer (Ozu)\r\nThe Saragossa Manuscript (Has)\r\nThe Testament of Dr Mabuse (Lang)\r\nGabbeh (M.Makhmalbaf)\r\nThe Battle of Algiers (Pontecorvo)\r\n\r\nbubbling under:\r\nEarly Spring (Ozu)\r\nArsenal (Dovzhenko)\r\nMouchette (Bresson)\r\nChunhyang (Im)\r\nBelle de Jour (Bunuel)\r\nThe Weeping Meadow (Angelopoulos)','45d1920f1a069741cdf963ed07b2728c',0,'','T8VpmQk6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6926,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167732960,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Going over my list, it looks as if I should also do this again in the near future. And this time ranked! \r\nBut where are the other members lists??? \r\n\r\nDefinitely out of my Top 100 foreign films will be (listed alphabetically):\r\n\r\nAlphaville, une trange aventure de Lemmy Caution \"Alphaville\" (1965 / Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nBrother (1999 / Australia / Adam Benjamin Elliot)\r\nDare mo shiranai Nobody Knows (2004 / Japan / Hirokazu Koreeda) \r\nLa Bte \"The Beast\" (1975 / Walerian Borowczyck / France)\r\nLos lunes al sol \"Mondays in the Sun\" (2002 / Fernando Leon de Aranoa / Spain) \r\nSaint-Cyr \"The Kings Daughters\" (2000 / Patricia Mazuy / France) \r\nTrois couleurs: Bleu \"Three Colors: Blue\" (1993 / Krzysztof Kieslowski / France, Poland, Switzerland, UK)','afdbb2dbd597e9a1f71698c129403aed',0,'','7F8QBlb4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6927,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167735000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','You know I forgot all about it. I\'ve been watching so much lately that I can\'t help but feel any list will be obsolete soon. Granted nowadays it takes a lot to really crack a list, but I can\'t stop \"researching\". If I do make a list, for sure it\'ll be ranked.','1743bec2b3b953124300bd0c8d34499c',0,'','DYwsA2to',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6928,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167743160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Ok so I didn\'t include British films, but there are a few films in English, but their countries of origin are not the US, particularly Voyage in Italy, The Man With No Name Trilogy, and The Passenger. I made a conscious effort not to be influenced by previous lists, or putting films on just to put them on. My top ten hasn\'t changed much (a few films switched places), but the rest of the list is quite remarkably different. And John might be pleased to see that The Crucified Lovers (A Mizoguchi film) is my highest Japanese film, something I had no idea would happen when making this list.\r\n\r\n1. 8 (1963 / Federico Fellini / Italy)\r\n2. Weekend (1967 / Jean-Luc Godard / France, Italy)\r\n3. Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980 / Rainer Werner Fassbinder / West Germany, Italy)\r\n4. Napolon (1927 / Abel Gance / France)\r\n5. To Live (1994 / Zhang Yimou / China)\r\n6. La Dolce Vita (1960 / Federico Fellini / Italy)\r\n7. Landscape in the Mist (1988 / Theo Angelopoulos / France, Italy, Greece) \r\n8. The Conformist (1970 / Bernardo Bertolucci / France, Italy, West Germany)\r\n9. A Generation/Kanal/Ashes and Diamonds (1954/1957/1958 / Andrzej Wajda / Poland)\r\n10. The Man With a Movie Camera (1929 / Dziga Vertov / USSR)\r\n\r\n11. Sans Soleil (1983 / Chris Marker / France)\r\n12. The Color of Pomegranates (1969 / Sergei Parajanov / Armenia, USSR)\r\n13. The Man With No Name Trilogy (1964/1965/1966 / Sergio Leone / Italy, Spain)\r\n14. Au Hasard Balthazar (1966 / Robert Bresson / France)\r\n15. The Exterminating Angel (1962 / Luis Buuel / Mexico)\r\n16. The Seventh Seal (1957 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n17. Jules and Jim (1962 / Francois Truffaut / France)\r\n18. Ordet (1955 / Carl Theodor Dreyer / Denmark)\r\n19. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972 / Werner Herzog / West Germany, Peru)\r\n20. Solaris (1972 / Andrei Tarkovsky / USSR)\r\n\r\n21. City of God (2003 / Ktia Lund, Fernando Meirelles / Brazil)\r\n22. The Mother and the Whore (1973 / Jean Eustache / France)\r\n23. Voyage In Italy (1953 / Roberto Rossellini / Italy, France)\r\n24. The Battle of Algiers (1966 / Gillo Pontecorvo / Algeria, Italy)\r\n25. Last Tango in Paris (1972 / Bernardo Bertolucci / Italy, France)\r\n26. The Grand Illusion (1937 / Jean Renoir / France)\r\n27. Andrei Rublev (1966 / Andrei Tarkovsky / USSR)\r\n28. The Red and the White (1967 / Mikls Jancs / Hungary, USSR)\r\n29. The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928 / Carl Theodor Dreyer / France) \r\n30. The Cranes are Flying (1957 / Mikhail Kalatozov / USSR)\r\n\r\n31. Teorema (1968 / Pier Paolo Passolini / Italy) \r\n32. Celine and Julie Go Boating (1974 / Jacques Rivette / France)\r\n33. False Movement (1975 / Wim Wenders / West Germany)\r\n34. Los Olvidados (1950 / Luis Buuel / Mexico)\r\n35. The Crucified Lovers (1954 / Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan)\r\n36. The Four Hundred Blows (1959 / Francois Truffaut / France)\r\n37. M (1931 / Fritz Lang / Germany)\r\n38. Wild Strawberries (1957 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n39. La Ronde (1950 / Max Ophls / France)\r\n40. Hard Boiled (1992 / John Woo / Hong Kong)\r\n\r\n41. The Passenger (1975 / Michelangelo Antonioni / Italy, Spain)\r\n42. The Traveling Players (1975 / Theo Angelopoulos / Greece)\r\n43. Talk to Her (2002 / Pedro Almodovar / Spain)\r\n44. Hero (2002 / Zhang Yimou / Hong Kong, China)\r\n45. Pierrot le Fou (1965 / Jean-Luc Godard / France, Italy)\r\n46. Ran (1985 / Akira Kurosawa / Japan, France)\r\n47. The Shame (1968 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden) \r\n48. The Bicycle Thief (1949 / Vittorio De Seca / Italy)\r\n49. Europa Europa (1991 / Agnieszka Holland / Germany, Poland, France)\r\n50. The Cyclist (1989 / Mohsen Makhmalbaf / Iran)\r\n\r\n51. Mouchette (1967 / Robert Bresson / France)\r\n52. Happy Together (1997 / Wong Kar-Wai / Hong Kong)\r\n53. Satantango (1994 / Bla Tarr / Germany, Hungary, Austria )\r\n54. Love Affair: Or the Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator (1967 / Dusan Makavejev / Yugoslavia)\r\n55. Death of a Bureaucrat (1966 / Toms Gutirrez Alea / Cuba, Spain)\r\n56. Seven Samurai (1954 / Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\n57. Children of Paradise (1945 / Marcel Carne / France)\r\n58. Belle de Jour (1967 / Luis Buuel / France, Italy)\r\n59. Persona (1966 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n60. Xala (1975 / Ousmane Sembene / Senegal)\r\n\r\n61. Rebels of the Neon God (1992 / Tsai Ming-Liang / Taiwan)\r\n62. Orpheus (1950 / Jean Cocteau / France)\r\n63. Early Summer (1951 / Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\n64. Diamonds of the Night (1964 / Jan Nemec / Czechoslovakia)\r\n65. Wings of Desire (1987 / Wim Wenders / West Germany, France)\r\n66. Spirited Away (2002 / Hayao Miyazaki / Japan)\r\n67. Osaka Elegy (1936 / Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan)\r\n68. Nights of Cabiria (1957 / Federico Fellini / Italy)\r\n69. Distant Thunder (1973 / Satyajit Ray / India)\r\n70. Hitler, a Film From Germany (1977 / Hans-Jrgen Syberberg / West Germany, France, UK)\r\n\r\n71. The General Line (1929 / Sergei Eisenstein / USSR)\r\n72. Flowers of Shanghai (1998 / Hou Hsiao-Hsien / Taiwan, Japan) \r\n73. Boudu Saved From Drowning (1932 / Jean Renoir / France)\r\n74. Beauty and the Beast (1946 / Jean Cocteau / France)\r\n75. Lola Monts (1955 / Max Ophls / France, West Germany)\r\n76. The Mirror (1974 / Andrei Tarkovsky / USSR)\r\n77. Ulysses Gaze (1995 / Theo Angelopoulos / Greece, France, Italy)\r\n78. Westfront 1918 (1930 / G. W. Pabst / Germany)\r\n79. Pickpocket (1959 / Robert Bresson / France)\r\n80. Boycott (1985 / Mohsen Makhmalbaf / Iran)\r\n\r\n81. The World (2005 / Jia Zhang Ke / Japan, France, China)\r\n82. Variety (1925 / E. A. Dupont / Germany)\r\n83. Zvenigora (1928 / Alexander Dovzhenko / USSR, Ukraine) \r\n84. Un Chien Andalou/L\'ge d\'Or (1928/1930 / Luis Buuel, Salvador Dali / France)\r\n85. Marius/Fanny/Cesar (1931/1932/1936 / Alexander Korda, Marc Allgret, Marcel Pagnol / France)\r\n86. Throne of Blood (1957 / Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\n87. General Della Rovere (1959 / Roberto Rossellini / Italy, France)\r\n88. Good Morning (1959 / Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\n89. Sandra of a Thousand Delights (1965 / Luchino Visconti / Italy)\r\n90. Scenes from a Marriage (1973 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n\r\n91. Metropolis (1927 / Fritz Lang / Germany)\r\n92. Fanny and Alexander (1982 / Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n93. After Life (1998 / Hirokazu Kore-eda / Japan) \r\n94. The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972 / Rainer Werner Fassbinder / West Germany)\r\n95. Hara-kiri (1962 / Masaki Kobayashi / Japan)\r\n96. In the Realm of the Senses (1976 / Nagisa Oshima / Japan, France)\r\n97. Numro Deux (1975 / Jean-Luc Godard, Anne-Marie Miville / France)\r\n98. Akira (1987 / Katsuhiro Otomo / Japan)\r\n99. Underground (1995 / Emir Kustirica / West Germany, France, Hungary)\r\n100. Irma Vep (1996 / Olivier Assayas / France)\r\n\r\nand the unranked runner\'s up\r\nLove (1971)\r\nRaise the Red Lantern (1991)\r\nThe Emperor and the Assassin (1999)\r\nBaran (2001)\r\nRun, Lola Run (1998) \r\nFallen Angels (1995)\r\nGabbeh (1996)\r\nChungking Express (1994)\r\nJu Dou (1990)\r\nThe Decalogue (1988) \r\nCobra Verde (1987)\r\nDas Boot (1981)\r\nKings of the Road (1976)\r\nThe Middleman (1975)\r\nSword of the Beast (1965)\r\nThe Phantom of Liberty (1974)\r\nZ (1969)\r\nAlphaville (1965)\r\nBreathless (1960)\r\nThe Apu Trilogy (1954/1957/1959)\r\nThe Magician (1958) \r\nTokyo Story (1953)\r\nMiracle in Milan (1951)\r\nRashomon (1950)\r\nRules of the Game (1939)\r\nOpen City (1945)\r\nFaust (1926)\r\nHazan (1922)\r\nDie Nibelugen (1924)\r\nThe Battleship Potemkin (1925)\r\nUgetsu (1953)\r\nLa Chienne (1931)\r\nOlympia (1938) \r\nVan Gogh (1991)\r\nIkiru (1952)\r\nJuliet of the Spirits (1965)\r\nYojimbo (1961)\r\nGate of Flesh (1964)\r\nLa Chinoise (1967)\r\nThe Round Up (1965)\r\nThe Weeping Meadow (2004)\r\nKung Fu Hustle (2004)\r\nPrincess Mononoke (1997)\r\nL\'avventura (1960)\r\nPerceval (1979)\r\nNobody Knows (2004)\r\nHouse of Flying Daggers (2004)\r\nThe Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933)\r\nLes Diaboliques (1955)\r\n\r\nBy Director:\r\nBergman - 6 \r\nBuuel - 5 \r\nFellini - 3\r\nGodard - 3 \r\nBresson - 3 \r\nKurosawa - 3 \r\nAngelopoulos - 3\r\n\r\nBy Decade\r\n20\'s - 8\r\n30\'s - 9\r\n40\'s - 3\r\n50\'s - 21\r\n60\'s - 25\r\n70\'s - 17\r\n80\'s - 9\r\n90\'s - 11\r\n2000\'s - 5','a2018829730caafb8e39e3d5e4a567f3',0,'','H4txMVkE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6929,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167765600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','A very interesting and eclectic list, though I havent seen 54 out of your Top 100 yet. And I have seen only two films from your Top Ten. I promise that there will be some similarities with my new list. \r\nThere are rumors that the restored Berlin Alexanderplatz will be shown as a special presentation at this years Berlinale. We will see.','b53a1c1dc084665bc2cb3fcbc70b543d',0,'','wWe1K4Hx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6930,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167820920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','ok why in @#%$\'s name do apostrophies keep turning into question marks?\r\n\r\nAnyways I thought I\'d try and offer some reasoning behind my picks.\r\n\r\n1. 8 1/2 \r\n\r\nFor a good 5 years this has been my favorite of all foreign films, and I\'m not even sure I\'ve seen it in its proper aspect ratio. Fellini the surrealist in my opinion far dwarfs the neorealist. 8 1/2 wanders from fantasy to reality with ease, and everything in it is bristling with life.\r\n\r\n2. Weekend \r\n\r\nEvery so often when you see a film you realize that this is exactly what you hope to see in every film ever made. Godard\'s film combines the illogical, the experimental, the political, and of course my never ending love of extended takes. Godard had been experimenting since his debut, and frequently the results were mixed. For every Pierrot le Fou there was a Le Petit Soldat. None of his early films are bad, but they are all building to something, and for me the culmination of all of this came here. The crowning achievement in a brilliant career.\r\n\r\n3. Berlin Alexanderplatz \r\n\r\nJumping up on my list is probably the least seen film on my list, at least with members here. A restoration project is underway so this will soon change, but allow me the opportunity to inflate its reputation more. Through all but the last episode Berlin Alexanderplatz is Fassbinder\'s best film. It contains all his frequent themes, the beaten woman, the boorish abusive man, and a veritable who\'s who of Fassbinder regulars. The last episode however, elevates the film to the crowning achievement in German cinema, and to discuss that final episode will not even come close to doing it justice.\r\n\r\n4. Napoleon \r\n\r\nMany people consider the final years of the silent cinema the peak of cinematic art. The medium was advancing, and this growth was evident in the final years. Many view Murnau\'s Sunrise as the peak of the form, but for me its Abel Gance\'s Napoleon. The first of a planned series of films on the historical figure. No film, probably ever is as experimental and the wonder that Gance created here seems comperable to revolution of the first edited film. \r\n\r\n5. To Live \r\n\r\nMany years ago this was my favorite foreign film. I watched it on a lark, reading the one sentence plot description. I new nothing of Yimou, nothing of the 5th Generation, but oh what a glorious film I saw. Within 15 minutes I was convinced that this was probably the saddest film ever made, but what wonderous visuals. No film since All Quiet on the Western Front hit me so hard emotionally, and for that this film will always be a favorite. I\'m scared to watch it again, not only for how I\'d react to it now, but to be that emotionally drained again.\r\n\r\n6. La Dolce Vita \r\n\r\nThis is the reason why you need to re-watch films. For whatever reason, over inflated reputation, fatigue, I wasn\'t extremely moved with my first viewing of Fellini\'s opus. Maybe a year or two later I revisited it, and twenty minutes into the film I was convinced that it was one of the greatest singular visions I had seen. The film marked a turning point in Fellini\'s career, and Italian cinema in general. A decadent world of the rich and our obsession with them, and a contemporary parable for moral decay.\r\n\r\n7. Landscape in the Mist\r\n\r\nWell if you like long takes, then there is no way you can\'t enjoy Angelopoulos. There are films shorter than the average shot length in this film. It was my introduction to Angelopoulos, and remains one of my greatest cinematic experiences. In the course of a shot the film seems at times to shift generations. Yet the films most powerful moment comes from a static camera holding on a parked truck. Landscape is also the ultimate road movie, and for my money the best films with children as protaganists.\r\n\r\n8. The Conformist \r\n\r\nWell now its officially available on DVD, but for many years Bertolucci\'s masterpiece was unavailable. The best print coming from laserdisc, but how many of us have laserdisc players? Having first suffered through a poorly dubbed formatted to fit this screen bad transfer VHS I was spellbound. Having to wait years to see it, though I couldn\'t help but feel like I would have had a better reaction if I could have seen it sooner and in better conditions. Later on I got a chance to see the restored print, minus the English dubbing, and the scartches and realized that this was the masterpiece I had hoped. It may not pack the emotional devastation of Last Tango in Paris but visually and politically it is Bertolucci\'s best work. Combining all the best elements and experimentatin of his previous films without the excess of his later pictures. \r\n\r\n9. A Generation/Kanal/Ashes and Diamonds \r\n\r\nIt may not be the first Polish film, but it\'s the first time that the international world took notice. The film isn\'t a linnear trilogy but each film is a different time, and they are chronological. The first focusing on the early resistance, the second is the most devastating film of the series on the last desperate days of the losing war, and the final on the transition from war to peace. Ashes and Diamonds gets the most attention, but Kanal is the centerpiece of the trilogy and the most devastating. \r\n\r\n10. The Man With a Movie Camera \r\n\r\nCity symmphonies weren\'t new, but Vertov\'s film far transceneds the boundaries of that avant-garde subgenre. It is one of the hardest films to write about, and one of the most rewarding on repeat viewings. The film is pure cinema, and the most elaborate display of montage in all its glory, peaking just before the advent of sound and a radical clampdown on Soviet style. A film that rightly deserves the high praise its associated with, and far greater than Eisenstein\'s overblown and overhyped masterpiece Potemkin. I watched this film as a double feature with Potemkin, and although I was impressed with Eisenstein\'s film I was overwhelmed by Vertov\'s.','717b6562984bf40604baac418bd5cc73',0,'','05ZfWwBi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6931,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167877980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Thanks for the insight into your brain, wpqx.','71f46ff2ec8ef67abcf58f6809502ad6',0,'','0VpEvXRt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6932,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187719380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Wow, i had quite forgotten what an exceptional Top 100 you\'ve posted. Which films have you edited btw?\r\n\r\nAnd you forgot to list Angelopoulos at the end, as you\'ve also included three of his films (two of which i haven\'t seen yet). As a Theophile ( ) I had to mention it','b7193b3b79f6260b3b2aa7c89f9f0226',0,'','CV0zTtec',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6933,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187728440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','I haven\'t edited any of the films listed, that would alter everything since I numbered in order of preference, but if I ever do another list 71 Fragments will certainly make that list.','7a64bc3ed19c16f14a5f0ad592a8df76',0,'','7rxmJRqh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6934,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187776680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','Re: A Generation/Kanal/Ashes and Diamonds\r\n\r\nI\'m in total agreement with you on these and your praise for Kanal in particular. I found Ashes and Diamonds a little formulaic especially the finale which made me think I\'d somehow switched to a Hollywood western or gangster flick, all very good films though.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','3f8f2e0fd60fd91516e345ab2b8f73f7',0,'','j0gDzQ4h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6935,1511,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187822340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your 100 favorite foreign films','They certainly won me over on Wajda who I\'ve been trying unsuccessfully to find something nearly as good from. These films might get contention as being three films that aren\'t a real \"trilogy\" but call it a three way tie.','254e5cce59929de6dc9c14e1d7986dd2',0,'','1R43p7Xk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6936,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198068000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','The 100 Most Significant German Films','Published in 1995 by Stiftung Deutsche Kinemathek, this list was assembled with input from filmmakers, film historians, journalists, and editors.\r\n\r\nAdventures of Baron Munchausen, The / Muenchhausen by Josef von Baky \r\nAdventures of Prince Achmed, The / Abenteuer des Prinzen Achmed, Die by Lotte Reiniger \r\nAguirre, The Wrath of God / Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes by Werner Herzog \r\nAlice in the Cities / Alice in den Staedten by Wim Wenders \r\nAmerican Friend, The / amerikanische Freund, Der by Wim Wenders \r\nAren\'t We Wonderful? / Wir Wunderkinder by Kurt Hoffmann \r\nArtists Under The Big Top: Perplexed, The / Artisten in der Zirkuskuppel: ratlos, Die by Alexander Kluge \r\nAsphalt by Joe May \r\n\r\nBallad of Berlin, The / Berliner Ballade by Robert A. Stemmle \r\nBerlin - Alexanderplatz by Piel Jutzi \r\nBerlin - Schoenhauser Corner / Berlin - Ecke Schoenhauser by Gerhard Klein \r\nBerlin Alexanderplatz (14 Parts) / Berlin Alexanderplatz (14 Teile) by Rainer Werner Fassbinder \r\nBerlin, Symphony of a City / Berlin. Die Sinfonie der Grossstadt by Walther Ruttmann \r\nBiographies The Story of the Children of Golzow / Lebenslaeufe by Winfried Junge, Barbara Junge \r\nBlue Angel, The / Blaue Engel, Der by Josef von Sternberg \r\nBoat, The / Boot, Das by Wolfgang Petersen \r\nBridge, The / Bruecke, Die by Bernhard Wicki \r\n\r\nCabinet of Dr. Caligari, The / Cabinet des Dr. Caligari, Das by Robert Wiene \r\nChronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach / Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach by Jean-Marie Straub \r\nComradeship / Kameradschaft by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nCongress Dances / Kongress tanzt, Der by Eric Charell \r\n\r\nDeath is My Trade / Aus einem deutschen Leben by Theodor Kotulla \r\nDestiny / muede Tod, Der by Fritz Lang \r\nDevil Strikes at Night, The / Nachts, wenn der Teufel kam by Robert Siodmak \r\nDiary of a Lost Girl / Tagebuch einer Verlorenen by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nDivided Sky, The / geteilte Himmel, Der by Konrad Wolf \r\nDr. Mabuse, The Gambler: Inferno, Men Of Our Time (Part 2) / Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler: Inferno, Ein Spiel von Menschen unserer Zeit (Teil 2) by Fritz Lang \r\nDr. Mabuse, The Gambler: The Great Gambler, A Picture Of Our Time (Part 1) / Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler: Der grosse Spieler, Ein Bild der Zeit (Teil 1) by Fritz Lang \r\n\r\nEffi Briest / Fontane Effi Briest by Rainer Werner Fassbinder\r\nEmil and the Detectives / Emil und die Detektive by Gerhard Lamprecht \r\nEnigma of Kaspar Hauser, The: Every Man for Himself and God Against All / Jeder fuer sich und Gott gegen alle by Werner Herzog\r\n\r\nFaust - A German Folk-Tale by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau \r\nFears Eats the Soul / Angst essen Seele auf by Rainer Werner Fassbinder \r\n\r\nGermany in Autumn / Deutschland im Herbst by Alexander Kluge, Edgar Reitz, Beate Mainka-Jellinghaus, Volker Schloendorff, Alf Brustellin, Bernhard Sinkel, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Maximiliane Mainka, Peter Schubert, Hans Peter Cloos, Katja Rup \r\nGermany Year Zero / Deutschland im Jahre Null by Roberto Rossellini \r\nGirl Rosemarie, The / Maedchen Rosemarie, Das by Rolf Thiele \r\nGirls in Uniform / Maedchen in Uniform by Leontine Sagan \r\nGolem, The / Golem, wie er in die Welt kam, Der by Paul Wegener \r\nGreat Freedom No. 7 / Grosse Freiheit Nr. 7 by Helmut Kaeutner \r\n\r\nHeimat by Edgar Reitz \r\nHeimat II / Zweite Heimat, Die by Edgar Reitz, Robert Busch \r\nHooligans, The / Halbstarken, Die by Georg Tressler \r\nHunting Scenes from Bavaria / Jagdszenen aus Niederbayern by Peter Fleischmann\r\n\r\nI Am the Rabbit / Kaninchen bin ich, Das by Kurt Maetzig \r\nI Was Nineteen / Ich war 19 by Konrad Wolf \r\n\r\nJakob The Liar / Jakob, der Luegner by Frank Beyer \r\n\r\nKaiser\'s Lackey, The / Untertan, Der by Wolfgang Staudte \r\nKatzelmacher by Rainer Werner Fassbinder \r\nKings of the Road / Im Lauf der Zeit by Wim Wenders \r\n\r\nLast Laugh, The / letzte Mann, Der by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau \r\nLegend of Paul and Paula, The / Legende von Paul und Paula, Die by Heiner Carow \r\nLiebelei by Max Ophuels \r\nLola Montez by Max Ophuels \r\nLost Honor of Katharina Blum, The / verlorene Ehre der Katharina Blum, Die by Volker Schloendorff, Margarethe von Trotta \r\nLost One, The / Verlorene, Der by Peter Lorre \r\n\r\nM - A Town Is Looking For A Murderer / M - Eine Stadt sucht einen Moerder by Fritz Lang \r\nMarianne and Juliane / Die Bleierne Zeit by Margarethe von Trotta \r\nMarriage in the Shadows / Ehe im Schatten by Kurt Maetzig \r\nMarriage of Maria Braun, The / Ehe der Maria Braun, Die by Rainer Werner Fassbinder \r\nMephisto by Istvn Szab \r\nMerchant of Four Seasons, The / Haendler der vier Jahreszeiten, Der by Rainer Werner Fassbinder \r\nMetropolis by Fritz Lang \r\nMother Krausen Goes to Heaven / Mutter Krausens Fahrt ins Glueck by Piel Jutzi \r\nMurderers Are Among Us, The / Moerder sind unter uns, Die by Wolfgang Staudte \r\nMysteries of a Hairdresser\'s Shop, The / Mysterien eines Frisiersalons, Die \r\n\r\nNosferatu by Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau \r\nNot Reconciled or Only Violence Helps Where Violence Rules / Nicht versoehnt oder Es hilft nur Gewalt, wo Gewalt herrscht by Jean-Marie Straub \r\n\r\nOlympia I + II by Leni Riefenstahl \r\n\r\nPandora\'s Box / Buechse der Pandora, Die by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nPassion / Madame Dubarry by Ernst Lubitsch \r\nPeople On Sunday / Menschen am Sonntag by Robert Siodmak \r\nProzess, Der by Eberhard Fechner \r\n\r\nRomance in a Minor Key / Romanze in Moll by Helmut Kaeutner \r\nRoses for the Prosecutor / Rosen fuer den Staatsanwalt by Wolfgang Staudte \r\nRotation by Wolfgang Staudte \r\n\r\nSeven Journeys / In jenen Tagen by Helmut Kaeutner \r\nSolo Sunny by Konrad Wolf \r\nStars / Sterne by Konrad Wolf \r\nStreet of Sorrow, The / freudlose Gasse, Die by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nStreet, The / Strasse, Die by Karl Grune \r\nStudent of Prague, The / Student von Prag, Der by Stellan Rye \r\n\r\nTestament of Dr. Mabuse, The / Testament des Dr. Mabuse, Das by Fritz Lang \r\nThree From the Filling Station / Drei von der Tankstelle, Die by Wilhelm Thiele \r\nThreepenny Opera, The / Dreigroschenoper, Die by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nTin Drum, The / Blechtrommel, Die by Volker Schloendorff \r\nTo Whom Does The World Belong? / Kuhle Wampe by Slatan Dudow \r\nTraces of Stones / Spur der Steine by Frank Beyer \r\n\r\nUnder The Bridges / Unter den Bruecken by Helmut Kaeutner \r\n\r\nVampire, The / Vampyr by Carl Theodor Dreyer \r\nVariet by Ewald Andr Dupont \r\nVIktor and Viktoria / Viktor und Viktoria by Reinhold Schuenzel \r\n\r\nWaxworks / Das Wachsfigurenkabinett by Paul Leni \r\nWestern Front 1918, The / Westfront 1918 by Georg Wilhelm Pabst \r\nWhite Hell of Pitz Palu, The / weisse Hoelle vom Piz Palue, Die by Georg Wilhelm Pabst, Arnold Fanck \r\nWings of Desire / Himmel ueber Berlin, Der by Wim Wenders \r\nWintergartenprogramm by Max Skladanowsky \r\n\r\nYesterday Girl / Abschied von Gestern by Alexander Kluge \r\nYoung Toerless / junge Toerless, Der by Volker Schloendorff','7d6a674eddb8d3d0411fd1a5f095eebc',0,'','4SF9fAj2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6937,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198095960,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','It\'d be great if this list had years listed. I\'m a little impressed that I\'ve seen as much as I have, interesting list.','fc7e09d65c8d9e34af2fcb5e477354c7',0,'','bFBoC6iM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6938,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198136460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','We could always add the years and touch up the names, if needed. I think it\'s a wonderful list. Counting my East German indulges, I\'m probably right there with you.','f6c4df37674c5c0ea912fc343a931635',0,'','acKQxqHN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6939,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1201989120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I think it\'s a pretty good list, but a lot of it is comprised by well known movies that will always appear on a list that wants to be representative. What I mean is that there are many obvious choices, and a lot of quality cinema. Experimental films and more \"commercial\" films are sorely missing. Too bad I\'ve only seen one third of the list. But \"significant\" is a difficult term to pin down. Significant for what? The influence on World Cinema, the influence on German films, box-office success, etc.','e7f1d7c5cf84158f3ee5c098ad72206e',0,'','xAJ6kV9q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6940,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202018100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I\'m not sure about mainstream, but you\'ll definitely come across the experimental kind once you get to a few more. I attempted to uncover the origins of the list but wasn\'t very successful (at least not in English).','c815e19fb46a2fa28b7ed4df5a7de1d7',0,'','xbk2y8Pv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6941,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202020020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I\'d love to see some Kluge get released here.','fc85d73c3ea7b25e2d2e225ff9971543',0,'','4p0MguaQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6942,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202041860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','What I meant with experimental cinema, were non-narrative avantgarde films. I know some of the listed titels contain experimental elements, and some even could be classified as avantgarde (e.g. \"People on Sunday\"), but I meant even more radical work. But maybe it isn\'t considered significant enough. \r\n\r\nFor Kluge, we have the wonderful Edition Filmmuseum DVDs. A lot of his films got released there recently. Maybe Criterion will pick some of those for future releases?','d74ecc90be759b8f0b7b989316b5be76',0,'','WvKplYbT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6943,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202075400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I saw that there was a boxed set released but it\'s unavailable here and I\'m too broke to order an import. Maybe I can talk someone in Facet\'s ordering department to put in for it.','05ac0fe3efc3cd0f66a94ffbbfc18b20',0,'','S4H5wpct',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6944,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202543340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Facets is scheduled to release a Kluge set this year. I\'ve only seen a couple from him so far, Brutality in Stone and Yesterday Girl (Anita G.), and both are pretty good.','f8ad65456055fa3438c2fcde5515089b',0,'','S1iy79QJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6945,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202602560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Yesterday Girl is primarily the one to look for, I\'ll take anything.','6951298bdc063db98eb72efea0279e41',0,'','lLDHqvor',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6946,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203402000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','A already criticised this list a bit but I have to go one step further: I absolutely dislike this list. It\'s useless and ignorant. What is it made of? Silents, commercial Post-WWII-Films from the 40ies and Films from the New German Cinema (Fassbinder, Kluge, Schlöndorff, Herzog, Wenders, etc.). There aren\'t much more films in it, almost no commercial German films from the period 1950 - present, almost no important Underground-Films, almost no Documentaries (we have a small, but significant canon of them), no animation films (yes, there are some!), almost no children films, to put it simple: Almost no Non-Consensus-Critic-Films. I\'ve totally been into German Cinema for many years (I still am, after all, my cinematic obsession started with it!) and to see such an uninspired, pretentious and elitistic list representing the \"Coronation\" of Germany\'s film history makes me really ill. \r\n\r\nMaybe I\'m not the right person to backbite about it because I\'ve only seen 52 of those films but I just wanted to put it right: Germany has many more interesting departments and movements to offer than those which appear in this poor list (and poor not because of the films - though I find it odd to honour lukewarm men like Volker Schlöndorff or Wim Wenders that much)','f3ec9a58f66137cfabc91d5f3b362938',0,'','NMikxKAo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6947,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203403140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Again, the list consists of works that the panel considered as the \"most significant.\" You need to keep that in mind, R6. This one isn\'t primarily about lesser-known, esoteric films that we tend to champion (though it certainly has a few of those if you look closely). \r\n\r\nMaybe I\'m not the right person to backbite about it because I\'ve only seen 52 of those films...','f1e4510876ee99132930243ae071b338',0,'','h2Sa0YJm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6948,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203405060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Just as a demonstration: \r\n\r\n1 Film: 1900 - 1910 \r\n2 Films: 1910 - 1920 \r\n21 Films: 1920 - 1930 \r\n17 Films: 1930 - 1940 (no film after 1935, btw.) \r\n9 Films: 1940 - 1950 \r\n10 Films: 1950 - 1960 \r\n10 Films: 1960 - 1970 (ridiculous - the 60ies were SO !!! important, not only for German Cinema) \r\n16 Films: 1970 - 1980 \r\n11 Films: 1980 - 1990 \r\n\r\nNothing after 1990... there were some REALLY significant films up to 1995... \r\n\r\nMany silents are lost but still, there were not nearly as many films produced than later in the century. \r\nFrom the 50ies to the late 80ies, Germany had an enormous output, nearly as big as Italy\'s or Japan\'s. \r\nWhat does significant mean? According to this list, the more social critical, society critical and history based a film is, the more significant it is. Bah. It\'s childish. \r\nAccording to this list, only films that received international success (which means: were awarded and appreciated by critics) are significant. \r\nAccording to this list, films that deal with unpleasant, controversial themes can never be really significant. \r\nAccording to this list, only \" good\" (= serious for the sake of being serious) or non-commercial films are significant. What about films like \"Jud Süß / Jew Süss\", \"Zu neuen Ufern\", \"Liebe kann wie Gift sein\", \"The Third Sex\", \"Different from the Others\", \"The Fellowship of the Frog\", \"The Dead Woman of Beverly Hills\", \"Schoolgirl\'s Report\", \"Es\" or \"The Treasure of Silver Lake\", \"Deadlock\", the films of Rosa von Praunheim, \"Nekromantik\", \"Die Jungfrauenmaschine\", \"Schramm\", \"Der Fan\", etc., etc., etc.?!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?! \r\n\r\n@ arsaib: \r\n\r\nWell, I considered that. I love many, many films from this list, btw. But to include films like \"Der Himmel über Berlin\" or \"Die Drei von der Tankstelle\" is just... ridiculous. Or \"Die Abenteuer des Baron Münchhausen\" - Just because it was probably the most expensive (and, as far as I know, only coloured) German film from the 40ies? I beg that wasn\'t meant to be totally serious. (Such) A film by Joseph von Baky...! I mean... doesn\'t \"significant\" mean outstanding, revolting, influential, innovative, inventing, unique, superior, remarkable...?! \r\n\r\nBy the way, there are also many films on the list which are practically unknown and almost never shown here. Critics, Filmmakers and Editors also have their own taste and, of course, they are big buddies with institutions like Die Deutsche Kinemathek. \r\n\r\nMy complain isn\'t so much about the films on the list but more about the films which are NOT on the list. I\'m sure, half of the films from the 20ies and the 30ies are just on it because they are from the 20ies and the 30ies which are considered to be the most significant decades of German cinema today by all those idiots mediocre talkers and writers who call themselves professors, critics, insiders, film- and media scientists or whatever. Sorry for being so striking but the German cinema with all of its faces, shadows, tranformations and its beauty has a very warm place near to my heart (it\'s a phrase, I know) and I was offended personally a bit. You know, I tend to take things a bit too personal...','4ca3266e4d7f94cabf8436eb77adcdee',0,'','jgtWwUNV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6949,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203406200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','The fact remains that you\'ve only seen half of the films on the list. Your little chart there proves that, for the most part, it\'s divided pretty evenly (it wouldn\'t have made a big difference for me even if it wasn\'t). If they had the likes of Schoolgirl\'s Report and The Treasure of Silver Lake on the list, then people would be bitching about why isn\'t there more Murnau and Lang. It\'s impossible for any list to please everyone, but for you to keep harping on that it\'s totally insignificant is unfair and a tad ridiculous.','9bae82a741ef3110f2a8f2ca6ccbe52c',0,'','MvfF67zc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6950,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203406980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I\'m glad you clarified you stance when you edited your post.','f33d94dc5c6810f050c96f93e31f328f',0,'','cylV3a2K',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6951,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203407940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Of course you\'re right to keep an eye on the fact that I\'ve seen only half of the films (many are still unavailable for \"mere mortals\") but considering that, \r\n\r\nIf they had the likes of Schoolgirl\'s Report and The Treasure of Silver Lake on the list, then people would be bitching about why isn\'t there more Murnau and Lang. I must say that it\'s really inappropriate to put almost half of the films by G. W. Pabst, Lang and Murnau (I like all three of them!) on the list and ignoring influential, successful and productive directors like Harald Reinl, Roland Klick, Christoph Schlingensief, Monika Treut, Jörg Buttgereit, Egon Günther, Franz and Georg Marischka, Rosa von Praunheim, Peter Schamoni, Klaus Lemke, Veit Harlan, Rolf Olsen, Alfred Vohrer, Rudolf Thome, Eckhart Schmidt and a whole bunch of other superior artists who also stamped the German Cinema quite a lot but who were never liked too much by the conservative and opinionated German critics (1st rule: If a film doesn\'t contain social critisism, it can hardly be art) who put this list together (I mention them just to demonstrate, don\'t want to boast). \r\n\r\nFilm Critics are a whole different species here, I\'m most jealous of other european countries and also the USA for many respectable critics who would\'ve probably made a very different list if they were German. \r\n\r\nBut I honestly don\'t want a struggle here, I\'m pretty opinionated myself if it comes to my very personal special subjects / interests and so it would be difficult to carry on with this discussion in the right way. What I wrote wasn\'t anger about you but just about this list which was (for me) another perfect example why German films are never treated the right and honest way in their own country. \r\n\r\nAnyway, I\'ll try to watch all the \"missing\" films from the list in the future but my regrets that there is - with reservations - only this face of German Cinema known in the rest of the world, will stay. That was my original reason for posting all that stuff - Please, all of you from the US, Canada, Asia and the Rest of the world - don\'t take this list overly serious. \r\n\r\nI apologize for being so aggressive. I shouldn\'t post here when I\'m in a bad mood...','5d1d44102f20a841d50033b02f12b00d',0,'','RUmaQy1B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6952,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203408420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I\'m glad you clarified you stance when you edited your post. Thinking before talking, thinking before talking, thinking before talking... sometimes, this order is hard to keep, you know. \r\n\r\nI love the \"Edit\"-Option, I\'m devoted to it.','539c5d4a9acd3529735f0cab3e613b14',0,'','TY3w8mLx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6953,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203409800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','\r\n\r\nI must say that it\'s really inappropriate to put almost half of the films by G. W. Pabst, Lang and Murnau (I like all three of them!) on the list and ignoring influential, successful and productive directors like Harald Reinl, Roland Klick, Christoph Schlingensief, Monika Treut, Jörg Buttgereit, Egon Günther, Franz and Georg Marischka, Rosa von Praunheim, Peter Schamoni, Klaus Lemke, Veit Harlan, Rolf Olsen, Alfred Vohrer, Rudolf Thome, Eckhart Schmidt and a whole bunch of other superior artists who also stamped the German Cinema quite a lot but who were never liked too much by the conservative and opinionated German critics (1st rule: If a film doesn\'t contain social critisism, it can hardly be art) who put this list together (I mention them just to demonstrate, don\'t want to boast).\r\n\r\nYou\'re exaggerating just a little, but your point is taken. I like many of the filmmakers you mentioned, including those from East Germany, which thankfully the list didn\'t ignore (there are at least a dozen East German films on the list). I\'m glad you responded passionately, and knowing you, your reasons were pure and you didn\'t mean to incite anyone, which is what you often see online.','95e814c0c3b1fc6840b18e42c5d1ef85',0,'','tDNRrxCQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6954,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203409860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Well I\'ve only seen 51 and there are certainly enough films on that list for me to greatly expand my knowledge of German cinema, unfortunately some of them are films I\'m looking for but have been unable to see, but I imagine I\'ll do a lot more damage to it when all is said and done. \r\n\r\nHonestly though is this any worse than the AFI\'s list of American classics though?','33024f1f1f32086f5f9cae4f96cab9fd',0,'','Xupd6kgf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6955,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203410280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','Your earlier comment gave me the impression that you\'d seen more than just half of them, wpqx. I\'m at 78, so I feel proud... on second thought, perhaps I shouldn\'t be since R6 doesn\'t want anyone to take it too seriously.','78c6c3617e49b3ce5eb958925cacb36e',0,'','N14k8wLx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6956,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203410400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','And yes, AFI\'s list is still the best of the worst.','09eb10ab9118859a848fa8fef84de1c0',0,'','gfHkQV43',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6957,1512,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203410460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The 100 Most Significant German Films','I just glanced and saw a lot of familiar faces, but clearly I\'m no expert on the situation.','1b350ea86d06474dd692734746b4360e',0,'','B9YmvWrS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6958,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168368360,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Best of 2006 Movie Lists','I know we already have a thread for this, but it is already getting very extensive and will expand further in the future. So I thought that in this thread we could assembly ALL the movie lists our members have posted in the other thread, so we can discuss them seperately. That doesn\'t mean thst you shouldn\'t post any discussions on the lists in the other thread, but I\'d suggest that you try to direct your \"list-comments\" to this place.\r\n\r\nBut please do post any further movie lists in the original best of 2006 thread. I\'ll only try to assemble all links to them in this one. \r\n\r\nIndex \r\n\r\nA (Germany)\r\nBest Films of 2006\r\n\"New\" Films Seen (2006)\r\n\r\narsaib4 (U.S.)\r\nBest \"Distributed\" Films (2006) Part I\r\nBest \"Distributed\" Films (2006) Part 2\r\nBest \"Undistributed\" Films (2006)\r\nBest/Most Important DVD Releases (2006) Part I\r\nBest/Most Important DVD Releases (2006) Part II\r\n\r\nbamboomedia1 (U.S.)\r\nBest & Worst\r\n\r\nHoward Schumann (Canada)\r\n20 FAVORITES OF 2006\r\n\r\njustindeimen (Singapore)\r\nTop 10 & Bottom 10\r\n\r\nMatalo Matango (Germany)\r\nBest Films of 2006\r\n\r\ntrevor826 (U.K.)\r\nFavorite DVD releases of 2006\r\n\r\nwpqx (U.S.)\r\nTop 10','970a3c44d06a60e46ee763ab0a3f39bb',0,'','vaSd6C4Y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6959,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168368480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','For any further questions, or if you think that this thread is completely unnecessary, or that I should only assemble the links, and the discussion should be on the original thread, or whatever...\r\njust post here.','b2bd7128ff1d56fab6db19cff56d623e',0,'','GLedX9gA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6960,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168602960,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','Thanks for your time and effort. This thread is a very good idea. You could also link the applicable posts in the DVD thread (Trevor\'s list is already there; I\'ll post mine very shortly). As for any follow-ups, I think it\'d better to keep them with the lists.','39017fab08cded6287b4fb53e0b7c3f6',0,'','q7koPRtf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6961,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168901820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','Heh, Thanks for the updates! \r\nI have added the DVD links.','4fad2b721e17eeea7cb6c7b5bb035466',0,'','l2HZzaDg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6962,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189830180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','I have \"unstickied\" this thread.','d81ee7a9aa0e445f6805f8c15ef455f4',0,'','btPmGXn6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6963,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198016520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'justindeimen','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','Is it too early for a 2007 list?\r\n\r\nSpeaking for myself, I\'m rushing through my Tarkovsky and Hitchcock. Unfortunately I\'ve not been updating my lists as fastidiously as I would have liked.','9ae6cda01a00e028ffe90156935bdbaf',0,'','gv9Q7A8w',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6964,1513,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1198023300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006 Movie Lists','Lord knows I just did a number on Hitchcock.\r\n\r\nWell it looks like I\'ll be starting 2008 off back in my mom\'s house. Just got evicted today and have 2 weeks to vacate. I am so not prepared for Christmas and nowhere near ready to do a 2007 film list.','9e4d6269f6eb8cdad7f804b68f021f35',0,'','HWQ8XU5A',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6965,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197582660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','My 1001 favourite films','up to 2007, with Floating Clouds, Travelling Players and I Was Born But top of my must-see list, and The Attached Balloon as the wild card i imagine to be wonderful (no less for the tiny clip i\'ve now seen). Asterisks mark favourites.\r\n\r\n1895 Arrival of a Train (Lumiere bros) \r\n\r\n1901 Man with the Rubber Head (Melies)\r\n\r\n1902 A Trip to the Moon (Melies)\r\nThe Lost World of Mitchell and Kenyon\r\n\r\n1906 Dream of a Rarebit Fiend (Porter)\r\n\r\n1913 Fantomas (Feuillade)\r\n\r\n1914 Twilight of a Woman\'s Soul (Bauer)\r\nA Child of the Big City (Bauer)\r\n\r\n1915 Les Vampires (Feuillade)*\r\nDaydreams (Bauer)\r\n\r\n1916 Intolerance (Griffith)\r\n\r\n1918 Tih Minh (Feuillade)\r\nA Dog\'s Life (Chaplin)\r\n\r\n1919 Broken Blossoms (Griffith)\r\nThe Cabinet of Dr Caligari (Wiene)\r\n\r\n1920 One Week (Cline, Keaton) \r\nThe Golem (Wegener)\r\n\r\n1921 The Goat (Keaton)\r\nThe Kid (Chaplin)\r\nThe Phantom Carriage (Sjostrom)\r\nManhatta (Strand)\r\n\r\n1922 Nosferatu (Murnau)**\r\nNanook of the North (Flaherty)\r\n\r\n1923 Our Hospitality (Keaton, Blystone)\r\nDie Nibelungen (Lang)\r\nSafety Last (Newmayer, Taylor)\r\nThe Smiling Madame Beudet (Dulac)\r\nCoeur Fidele (Epstein)\r\nLe Retour a la Raison (Man Ray)\r\n\r\n1924 Sherlock jnr (Keaton)*\r\nEntr\'acte (Clair)\r\nThe Navigator (Keaton)\r\nBallet Mcanique (Leger)\r\nGosta Berling\'s Saga (Stiller)\r\nThe Thief of Bagdad (Walsh)\r\n\r\n1925 Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein)**\r\nThe Gold Rush (Chaplin)**\r\nStrike (Eisenstein)\r\nThe Big Parade (Vidor)\r\nThe Adventures of Prince Achmed (Reiniger)\r\nSeven Chances (Keaton)\r\nMaster of the House (Dreyer)\r\n\r\n1926 The General (Keaton, Bruckman)**\r\nFaust (Murnau)\r\nTown Rat, Country Rat (Starewicz)\r\nMother (Pudovkin)\r\nBen Hur (Niblo)\r\nMnilmontant (Kirsanov)\r\n\r\n1927 Sunrise (Murnau)***\r\nMetropolis (Lang)**\r\nThe Chess Player (Bernard)*\r\nGirl with a Hatbox (Barnet)\r\nNapoleon (Gance)\r\nOctober (Eisenstein)\r\nThe Kid Brother (Wilde)\r\nSeventh Heaven (Borzage)\r\n\r\n1928 The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer)*\r\nSpies (Lang)*\r\nArsenal (Dovzhenko)*\r\nThe Seashell and the Clergyman (Dulac)\r\nQueen Kelly (Von Stroheim)\r\nSteamboat Bill Jnr (Keaton)\r\nThe Wind (Sjostrom)\r\nStorm over Asia (Pudovkin)\r\nThe Cameraman (Sedgwick)\r\nThe Fall of the House of Usher (Epstein)\r\nThe Wedding March (Von Stroheim)\r\n\r\n1929 Man with a Movie Camera (Vertov)**\r\nPandora\'s Box (Pabst)*\r\nUn Chien Andalou (Bunuel)\r\nBlackmail (Hitchcock)\r\nDiary of a Lost Girl (Pabst)\r\n\r\n1930 Salt for Svanetia (Kalatozov)*\r\nL\'Age d\'Or (Bunuel)*\r\nMorocco (Von Sternberg)*\r\nPeople on Sunday (Siodmak, Ulmer)\r\nAll Quiet on the Western Front (Milestone)\r\nEarth (Dovzhenko)\r\n\r\n1931 City Lights (Chaplin)*\r\nMadchen in Uniform (Sagan)*\r\nM (Lang)*\r\nMarius (Korda)\r\nLe Million (Clair)\r\nTale of the Fox (Starewicz)\r\nFrankenstein (Whale)\r\nTabu (Murnau)\r\nLimite (Peixoto)\r\nMonkey Business (Mcleod)\r\nPublic Enemy (Wellman)\r\n\r\n1932 Boudu Saved from Drowning (Renoir)*\r\nTrouble in Paradise (Lubistch)\r\nLove me Tonight (Mamoulian)\r\nFanny (Allegret)\r\nShanghai Express (Von Sternberg)\r\nVampyr (Dreyer)\r\nQue Viva Mexico (Eisenstein)\r\nThe Music Box (Parrott)\r\nGrand Hotel (Goulding)\r\nFreaks (Browning)\r\nThe Old Dark House (Whale)\r\nThe Most Dangerous Game (Schoedsack, Pichel)\r\n\r\n1933 Duck Soup (McCarey)*\r\nKing Kong (Cooper, Schoedsack)*\r\nThe Testament of Dr Mabuse (Lang)*\r\nLiebelei (Ophuls)\r\nSons of the Desert (Seiter)\r\nLittle Toys (Sun Yu)\r\nNight on Bald Mountain (Alexeieff, Parker)\r\nDaybreak (Sun Yu)\r\nFootlight Parade (Bacon)\r\nDinner at Eight (Cukor)\r\nZro de Conduite (Vigo)\r\nBetty Boop\'s Snow White (Fleischer)\r\n\r\n1934 L\'Atalante (Vigo)**\r\nIt Happened One Night (Capra)**\r\nThe Scarlet Empress (Von Sternberg)*\r\nThe Goddess (Wu Yonggang)*\r\nThe Mascot (Starewicz)\r\nHappiness (Medvedkin)\r\nSong of Ceylon (Wright)\r\nIt\'s a Gift (McLeod)\r\nThe Black Cat (Ulmer)\r\nTwentieth Century (Hawks)\r\nDames (Enright)\r\n\r\n1935 Top Hat (Sandrich)**\r\nThe 39 Steps (Hitchcock)*\r\nDavid Copperfield (Cukor)*\r\nThe Devil is a Woman (Von Sternberg)*\r\nComposition in Blue (Fischinger)*\r\nToni (Renoir)\r\nBride of Frankenstein (Whale)\r\nA Night at the Opera (Wood)\r\nSylvia Scarlett (Cukor)\r\n\r\n1936 Une Partie de Campagne (Renoir)** \r\nThe Only Son (Ozu)*\r\nSwing Time (Stevens)*\r\nOsaka Elegy (Mizoguchi)\r\nStory of a Cheat (Guitry)\r\nCsar (Pagnol)\r\nSisters of the Gion (Mizoguchi)\r\nLe Crime de Monsieur Lange (Renoir)\r\nModern Times (Chaplin)\r\nRose Hobart (Cornell)\r\nMy Man Godfrey (La Cava)\r\nBirth of the Robot (Lye)\r\n\r\n1937 La Grande Illusion (Renoir)**\r\nHumanity and Paper Balloons (Yamanaka)*\r\nThe Awful Truth (McCarey)\r\nPp le Moko (Duvivier)\r\nHotel du Nord (Carn)\r\nStreet Angel (Yuan Mushi)\r\nYou Only Live Once (Lang)\r\nThe Prisoner of Zenda (Cromwell)\r\n\r\n1938 Alexander Nevsky (Eisenstein)**\r\nBringing up Baby (Hawks)* \r\nThe Childhood of Maxim Gorki (Donskoi)\r\nLa Bete Humaine (Renoir)\r\nQuai des Brumes (Carn)\r\nJezebel (Wyler)\r\nThe Adventures of Robin Hood (Curtiz)\r\nHoliday (Cukor)\r\n\r\n1939 La Regle du Jeu (Renoir)***\r\nStory of the Late Chrysanthemums (Mizoguchi)**\r\nGone with the Wind (Fleming)\r\nDestry Rides Again (Marshall)\r\nThe Wizard of Oz (Fleming)\r\nLe Jour se Leve (Carn)\r\nThe Hunchback of Notre Dame (Dieterle)\r\nWuthering Heights (Wyler)\r\nThe Roaring Twenties (Walsh)\r\nStagecoach (Ford)\r\n\r\n1940 The Thief of Bagdad (Berger, Powell, Whelan)**\r\nFantasia (Disney- Sharpsteen)\r\nRebecca (Hitchcock)\r\nPinocchio (Disney- Sharpsteen, Luske)\r\nThe Grapes of Wrath (Ford) \r\nThe Well-Digger\'s Daughter (Pagnol)\r\nThe Great Dictator (Chaplin)\r\nThe Letter (Wyler)\r\nForeign Correspondent (Hitchcock)\r\nThemis (Grant)\r\nGhost Breakers (Marshall)\r\nSwinging the Lambeth Walk (Lye)\r\n\r\n1941 Citizen Kane (Welles)**\r\nThe Maltese Falcon (Huston)**\r\nDumbo (Disney- Sharpsteen)*\r\nThe Lady Eve (P.Sturges)*\r\n\r\n1942 Casablanca (Curtiz)**\r\nTo Be or Not to Be (Lubitsch)**\r\nThe Loyal 47 Ronin (Mizoguchi)*\r\nThe Magnificent Ambersons (Welles)\r\nThe Palm Beach Story (P.Sturges)\r\nCat People (Tourneur)\r\nBambi (Disney- Hand)\r\nMy Favourite Blonde (Lanfield)\r\n\r\n1943 Day of Wrath (Dreyer)*\r\nThe Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Powell, \r\nPressburger)\r\nI Walked with a Zombie (Tourneur)\r\nThe Seventh Victim (Robson)\r\nHeaven can Wait (Lubitsch)\r\nThe Ox-Bow Incident (Wellmann)\r\nMeshes of the Afternoon (Deren)\r\n\r\n1944 Ivan the Terrible (Eisenstein)*\r\nDouble Indemnity (Wilder)*\r\nMurder, my Sweet (Dmytryk)\r\nLaura (Preminger)\r\nThe Princess and the Pirate (Butler)\r\nA Canterbury Tale (Powell, Pressburger)\r\nTo Have and Have Not (Hawks)\r\nJammin\' the Blues (Mili)\r\nMinistry of Fear (Lang)\r\nAt Land (Deren)\r\nHenry V (Olivier)\r\n\r\n1945 Les Enfants du Paradis (Carn)**\r\nRome Open City (Rossellini)\r\nThe Battle of San Pietro (Huston)\r\nLeave her to Heaven (Stahl)\r\nMildred Pierce (Curtiz)\r\nScarlet Street (Lang)\r\nThe Wicked Lady (Arliss)\r\n\r\n1946 The Big Sleep (Hawks)**\r\nIt\'s a Wonderful Life (Capra)*\r\nA Matter of Life and Death (Powell, Pressburger)*\r\nNotorious (Hitchcock)*\r\nLa Belle et la Bete (Cocteau)*\r\nIvan the Terrible 2 (Eisenstein)*\r\nGilda (C.Vidor)\r\nGreat Expectations (Lean)\r\nMy Darling Clementine (Ford)\r\nThe Killers (Siodmak)\r\nPaisa (Rossellini)\r\nA Diary for Timothy (Jennings)\r\nThe Postman always Rings Twice (Garnett)\r\n\r\n1947 Monsieur Verdoux (Chaplin)*\r\nBlack Narcissus (Powell, Pressburger)\r\nThe Lady from Shanghai (Welles)\r\nThe Ball at the House of Anjo (Yoshimura)\r\nQuai des Orfevres (Clouzot)\r\nOut of the Past (Tourneur)\r\nThe Ghost and Mrs Muir (Mankiewicz)\r\n\r\n1948 Letter from an Unknown Woman (Ophuls)**\r\nSpring in a Small Town (Fei Mu)*\r\nThe Red Shoes (Powell, Pressburger)*\r\nTreasure of the Sierra Madre (Huston)\r\nPortrait of Jennie (Dieterle)\r\nBicycle Thieves (De Sica)\r\nUnfaithfully Yours (P.Sturges)\r\nThe Pirate (Minnelli) \r\nFallen Idol (Reed)\r\nForce of Evil (Polonsky)\r\nThey Live by Night (N.Ray)\r\nInspirace (Zeman)\r\nFort Apache (Ford)\r\nHamlet (Olivier)\r\nFado, Historia de uma Cantadeira (Queiroga)\r\n\r\n1949 Late Spring (Ozu)**\r\nKind Hearts and Coronets (Hamer)**\r\nThe Third Man (Reed)*\r\nStray Dog (Kurosawa)\r\nWhite Heat (Walsh)\r\nThe Heiress (Wyler)\r\nBegone Dull Care (Mclaren)\r\nThe Reckless Moment (Ophuls)\r\nLes Enfants Terribles (Melville)\r\nGun Crazy (Lewis)\r\nThe Set-Up (Wise)\r\n\r\n1950 Orphe (Cocteau)**\r\nSunset Boulevard (Wilder)*\r\nThe Flowers of St Francis (Rossellini)\r\nDiary of a Country Priest (Bresson)\r\nRashomon (Kurosawa)\r\nIn a Lonely Place (N.Ray)\r\nAll about Eve (Mankiewicz)\r\nThe Asphalt Jungle (Huston)\r\nGone to Earth (Powell, Pressburger)\r\nWagonmaster (Ford)\r\n\r\n1951 Early Summer (Ozu)*\r\nMiss Oyu (Mizoguchi)*\r\nRepast (Naruse)\r\nThe Lady from Musashino (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Lavender Hill Mob (Crichton)\r\nThe River (Renoir)\r\nBellissima (Visconti)\r\nThe Day the Earth Stood Still (Wise)\r\nA Place in the Sun (Stevens)\r\nThe Idiot (Kurosawa)\r\nAn American in Paris (Minnelli)\r\nThe African Queen (Huston)\r\n\r\n1952 Singin in the Rain (Donen, Kelly)**\r\nThe Life of Oharu (Mizoguchi)**\r\nCasque d\'Or (Becker)**\r\nThe Quiet Man (Ford)*\r\nBaiju Bawra (Bhatt)*\r\nLe Plaisir (Ophuls)\r\nOthello (Welles) \r\nThe Golden Coach (Renoir)\r\nThe Flavour of Green Tea over Rice (Ozu)\r\nHigh Noon (Zinnemann)\r\nMonkey Business (Hawks)\r\nForbidden Games (Clement)\r\nThe Crimson Pirate (Siodmak)\r\nNeighbours (Mclaren)\r\n\r\n1953 Tokyo Story (Ozu)***\r\nThe Band Wagon (Minnelli)**\r\nUgetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)**\r\nMadame de (Ophuls)*\r\nVoyage to Italy (Rossellini)*\r\nA Geisha (Mizoguchi)\r\nEl (Bunuel)\r\nWhite Mane (Lamorisse)\r\nRoman Holiday (Wyler)\r\nThe Big Heat (Lang)\r\nDuck Amuck (Jones)\r\nGentlemen Prefer Blondes (Hawks)\r\nThe Wages of Fear (Clouzot)\r\nThe Naked Spur (A. Mann)\r\n\r\n1954 Sansho the Bailiff (Mizoguchi)***\r\nSeven Samurai (Kurosawa)***\r\nSenso (Visconti)*\r\nSound of the Mountain (Naruse)*\r\nJohnny Guitar (N.Ray)*\r\nRear Window (Hitchcock)*\r\nChikamatsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Far Country (A.Mann)\r\nTwenty Four Eyes (Kinoshita)\r\nThe Barefoot Contessa (Mankiewicz)\r\nHobson\'s Choice (Lean)\r\n\r\n1955 Pather Panchali (S.Ray)**\r\nTales of the Taira Clan (Mizoguchi)**\r\nNight of the Hunter (Laughton)**\r\nKiss me Deadly (Aldrich)**\r\nOrdet (Dreyer)*\r\nLola Montes (Ophuls)*\r\nEast of Eden (Kazan)*\r\nYang Kwei Fei (Mizoguchi)\r\nSmiles of a Summer Night (Bergman)\r\nRififi (Dassin)\r\n\r\n1956 The Searchers (Ford)**\r\nA Man Escaped (Bresson)*\r\nAparajito (S.Ray)*\r\nEarly Spring (Ozu)*\r\nThe Court Jester (Panama, Frank)*\r\nStreet of Shame (Mizoguchi)\r\nKanal (Wajda)\r\nThe Killing (Kubrick)\r\nBob le Flambeur (Melville)\r\nThe Burmese Harp (Ichikawa)\r\nGiant (Stevens)\r\n\r\n1957 Tokyo Twilight (Ozu)*\r\nTwelve Angry Men (Lumet)*\r\nPaths of Glory (Kubrick)*\r\nThrone of Blood (Kurosawa)\r\nFunny Face (Donen)\r\nThe Cranes are Flying (Kalatozov)\r\nThe Seventh Seal (Bergman)\r\nPyaasa (Dutt)\r\nThe Incredible Shrinking Man (Arnold)\r\nBridge on the River Kwai (Lean)\r\nWhat\'s Opera, Doc? (Jones)\r\nMirror Animations (H.Smith)\r\n3:10 to Yuma (Daves)\r\n\r\n1958 Vertigo (Hitchcock)**\r\nHidden Fortress (Kurosawa)*\r\nTouch of Evil (Welles)\r\nThe Music Room (S.Ray)\r\nThe Magician (Bergman)\r\nNazarin (Bunuel)\r\nLes Amants (Malle)\r\nDracula (Fisher)\r\nThe Defiant Ones (Kramer)\r\n\r\n1959 North by Northwest (Hitchcock)***\r\nSome Like it Hot (Wilder)***\r\nHiroshima mon Amour (Resnais)**\r\nThe World of Apu (S.Ray)**\r\nBallad of a Soldier (Chukhrai)*\r\nPaper Flowers (Dutt)\r\nLes 400 Coups (Truffaut)\r\nLe Testament d\'Orphe (Cocteau)\r\nThe Lin Family Shop (Zhang Shuihua)\r\nAstronauts (Borowczyk, Marker)\r\nGood Morning (Ozu)\r\nThe Nun\'s Story (Zinnemann)\r\nImitation of Life (Sirk)\r\n\r\n1960 L\'Avventura (Antonioni)***\r\nThe Apartment (Wilder)**\r\nCloud-Capped Star (Ghatak)**\r\nMughal-e-Azam (Asif)*\r\nLa Dolce Vita (Fellini)* \r\nLe Trou (Becker)\r\nWhen a Woman Ascends the Stairs (Naruse)\r\nWild River (Kazan)\r\nShoot the Pianist (Truffaut)\r\nSpartacus (Kubrick)\r\nKnights of the Teutonic Order (A.Ford)\r\nUne Femme est une Femme (Godard)\r\nPsycho (Hitchcock)\r\nBlack Sunday (Bava)\r\n\r\n1961 The Human Condition trilogy (Kobayashi)** \r\nEl Cid (A.Mann)**\r\nLa Notte (Antonioni)*\r\nThe End of Summer (Ozu)*\r\nThe Innocents (Clayton)*\r\nLast Year at Marienbad (Resnais)\r\nOne-Eyed Jacks (Brando)\r\nMother Joan of the Angels (Kawalerowicz)\r\nCleo from 5 to 7 (Varda)\r\n\r\n1962 Lawrence of Arabia (Lean)**\r\nIvan\'s Childhood (Tarkovsky)\r\nSeppuku (Kobayashi)\r\nEclipse (Antonioni)\r\nThe Man who Shot Liberty Valance (Ford)\r\nVivre sa Vie (Godard)\r\nCarnival of Souls (Harvey)\r\nA Valparaiso (Ivens)\r\nRide the High Country (Peckinpah)\r\nLoneliness of the Long Distance Runner (Richardson)\r\n\r\n1963 8 1/2 (Fellini)**\r\nThe Leopard (Visconti)*\r\nContempt (Godard)*\r\nThe Great Escape (J.Sturges)*\r\nHigh and Low (Kurosawa)*\r\nThe Servant (Losey)\r\nIt\'s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (Kramer)\r\nThe House is Black (Farrokhzad)\r\nThe Silence (Bergman)\r\nCharade (Donen)\r\nJason and the Argonauts (Chaffey)\r\nThe Birds (Hitchcock)\r\nFrom Russia with Love (Young)\r\n\r\n1964 Dr Strangelove (Kubrick)**\r\nGertrud (Dreyer)**\r\nMarnie (Hitchcock)*\r\nKwaidan (Kobayashi)*\r\nThe Gospel according to St Matthew (Pasolini)*\r\nCharulata (S.Ray)*\r\nGoldfinger (Hamilton)*\r\nI am Cuba (Kalatozov)\r\nBlack God White Devil (Rocha)\r\nThe Naked Kiss (Fuller)\r\nThe Pink Panther (Edwards) \r\nWoman of the Dunes (Teshigahara)\r\nThe Train (Frankenheimer)\r\nShadows of Forgotten Ancestors (Paradjanov)\r\nManji (Masumura)\r\n\r\n1965 Pierrot le Fou (Godard)**\r\nThe Battle of Algiers (Pontecorvo)*\r\nTwo Stage Sisters (Xie Jin)*\r\nThe Saragossa Manuscript (Has)*\r\nSubarnarekha (Ghatak)\r\nRed Beard (Kurosawa)\r\nThe Hand (Trnka)\r\nOnibaba (Shindo)\r\nAlphaville (Godard)\r\nA Shot in the Dark (Edwards)\r\nChimes at Midnight (Welles)\r\nDoctor Zhivago (Lean)\r\nGuide (Anand)\r\nThe Ipcress File (Furie)\r\nCarry on Cleo (Thomas)\r\nA Blonde in Love (Forman)\r\n\r\n1966 Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)***\r\nPersona (Bergman)**\r\nRound Up (Jancso)\r\nDaisies (Chytilova)\r\nClosely Observed Trains (Menzel)\r\nThe Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Leone)\r\nRed Angel (Masumura)\r\nFaster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Meyer)\r\nThe Party and the Guests (Nemec)\r\nBlow Up (Antonioni)\r\nThose Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines (Annakin)\r\n\r\n1967 Belle de Jour (Bunuel)*\r\nMouchette (Bresson)*\r\nBonnie and Clyde (Penn)*\r\nMarketa Lazarova (Vlacil)\r\nThe Graduate (Nichols)\r\nThe Red and the White (Jancso)\r\nHour of the Wolf (Bergman)\r\nPlaytime (Tati)\r\nSwitchboard Operator (Makaveyev)\r\nThe Attached Balloon (Zheliazkova)\r\nBranded to Kill (Suzuki)\r\nThe Commissar (Askoldov)\r\nWar and Peace (Bondarchuk)\r\nYou Only Live Twice (Gilbert)\r\nThe Dirty Dozen (Aldrich)\r\nCool Hand Luke (Rosenberg)\r\n\r\n1968 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)***\r\nThe Colour of Pomegranates (Paradjanov)**\r\nOnce Upon a Time in the West (Leone)**\r\nGoto, Isle of Love (Borowczyk)*\r\nHour of the Furnaces (Solanas)*\r\nFall of Leaves (Iosseliani)\r\nShame (Bergman)\r\nThe Cremator (Herz)\r\nLa Femme Infidele (Chabrol)\r\nIf (L.Anderson)\r\nChronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (Straub, Huillet)\r\nThe Cow (Mehrjui)\r\nBullitt (Yates)\r\n\r\n1969 My Night with Maud (Rohmer)** \r\nThe Wild Bunch (Peckinpah)*\r\nDays and Nights in the Forest (S.Ray)*\r\nA Touch of Zen (King Hu)\r\nArmy in the Shadows (Melville)\r\nThe Milky Way (Bunuel)\r\nKes (Loach)\r\nMidnight Cowboy (Schlesinger)\r\nButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (Hill)\r\nLe Boucher (Chabrol)\r\nThe Jackal of Nahueltoro (Littin)\r\n\r\n1970 Claire\'s Knee (Rohmer)**\r\nThe Conformist (Bertolucci)*\r\nThe Sorrow and the Pity (Marcel Ophuls)*\r\nFive Easy Pieces (Rafelson)\r\nThe Red Circle (Melville)\r\nWalkabout (Roeg)\r\nThe Ear (Kachyna)\r\nLittle Big Man (Penn)\r\nValerie and her Week of Wonders (Jires)\r\nThe Private Life of Sherlock Holmes (Wilder)\r\nThe Spider\'s Stratagem (Bertolucci)\r\nGrandmother (Lynch)\r\n\r\n1971 Pakeezah (Amrohi)**\r\nLe Souffle au Coeur (Malle)*\r\nLove (Makk)\r\nDeath in Venice (Visconti)\r\nAnne and Muriel (Truffaut)\r\nKlute (Pakula)\r\nKing Lear (Kozintsev)\r\nBlanche (Borowczyk)\r\nTen Days Wonder (Chabrol)\r\nCalcutta 71 (Sen)\r\nW.R.Mysteries of the Organism (Sen)\r\nThe Last Picture Show (Bogdanovich)\r\nMcCabe and Mrs Miller (Altman)\r\nTwo Lane Blacktop (Hellman)\r\nThe Go-Between (Losey)\r\n\r\n1972 Aguirre Wrath of God (Herzog)**\r\nDeliverance (Boorman)*\r\nCabaret (Fosse)\r\nThe Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Bunuel)\r\nMy Childhood (Douglas)\r\nSleuth (Mankiewicz)\r\nHome from the Sea (Yamada)\r\nRoma (Fellini)\r\nThe Godfather (Coppola)\r\nState of Siege (Costa-Gavros)\r\nSolaris (Tarkovsky)\r\n\r\n1973 Spirit of the Beehive (Erice)**\r\nThe Mother and the Whore (Eustache)*\r\nThe Wicker Man (Hardy)*\r\nBadlands (Malick)\r\nThe Day of the Jackal (Zinnemann)\r\nDon\'t Look Now (Roeg)\r\nFear Eats the Soul (Fassbinder)\r\nPaper Moon (Bogdanovich)\r\nSleeper (Allen)\r\nThe Great Ecstasy of Woodcarver Steiner (Herzog)\r\nThe Holy Mountain (Jodorowsky)\r\nThe World at War (BBC TV)\r\nO Lucky Man (Anderson)\r\nDay for Night (Truffaut)\r\nTouki-Bouki (Mambety)\r\nSerpico (Lumet)\r\n\r\n1974 Celine and Julie go Boating (Rivette)***\r\nAlice in the Cities (Wenders)***\r\nHearts and Minds (Davis)*\r\nThe Godfather 2 (Coppola)*\r\nChinatown (Polanski)*\r\nThe Phantom of Liberty (Bunuel)\r\nReason, Debate and a Tale (Ghatak)\r\nEdvard Munch (Watkins)\r\nArabian Nights (Pasolini)\r\nF for Fake (Welles)\r\nThe Conversation (Coppola)\r\n\r\n1975 Mirror (Tarkovsky)***\r\nThe Passenger (Antonioni)**\r\nBarry Lyndon (Kubrick)*\r\nPicnic at Hanging Rock (Weir)\r\nHedgehog in the Fog (Norstein)\r\nThe Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (Herzog)\r\nDog Day Afternoon (Lumet)\r\nThe Man who Would be King (Huston)\r\nThree Days of the Condor (Pollack)\r\nProfondo Rosso (Argento)\r\nOne Flew over the Cuckoo\'s Nest (Forman)\r\nNight Moves (Penn)\r\n\r\n1976 Kings of the Road (Wenders)**\r\nThe Outlaw Josey Wales (Eastwood)*\r\nAi no Corrida (Oshima)*\r\nCria Cuervos (Saura)\r\nThe Ascent (Shepitko)\r\nThe Innocent (Visconti)\r\n1900 (Bertolucci)\r\nMarathon Man (Schlesinger)\r\nMr Klein (Losey)\r\nChinese Roulette (Fassbinder)\r\nCarrie (De Palma)\r\nAll the President\'s Men (Pakula)\r\n\r\n1977 Suspiria (Argento)*\r\nUnfinished Piece for Player Piano (Mikhalkov)\r\nThree Women (Altman)\r\nThe Lacemaker (Goretta)\r\nThe American Friend (Wenders)\r\nProvidence (Resnais)\r\nSoldier of Orange (Verhoeven)\r\nMetamorphosis of Mr Samsa (Leaf)\r\nEraserhead (Lynch)\r\nPadre Padrone (Taviani bros)\r\n\r\n1978 The Deer Hunter (Cimino)*\r\nThe Marriage of Maria Braun (Fassbinder)*\r\nTree of the Wooden Clogs (Olmi)\r\nDays of Heaven (Malick)\r\nPerceval le Gallois (Rohmer)\r\nThe Driver (W.Hill)\r\n\r\n1979 Stalker (Tarkovsky)** \r\nApocalypse Now (Coppola)**\r\nManhattan (Allen)**\r\nTale of Tales (Norstein)**\r\nThe Life of Brian (Jones)\r\nVengeance is Mine (Imamura)\r\nRaining in the Mountain (King Hu)\r\nMy Brilliant Career (Armstrong)\r\nThe China Syndrome (Bridges)\r\n\r\n1980 The Shining (Kubrick)**\r\nRaging Bull (Scorsese)**\r\nBerlin Alexanderplatz (Fassbinder)*\r\nWho\'s Singing over There? (Sijan)\r\nThe Elephant Man (Lynch)\r\nThe Aviator\'s Wife (Rohmer)\r\nAtlantic City (Malle)\r\nHopscotch (Neame)\r\nSir Henry at Rawlinson End (Roberts)\r\nHeaven\'s Gate (Cimino)\r\nOrdinary People (Redford)\r\nFly (Rofusz)\r\nMelvin and Howard (Demme)\r\n\r\n1981 Night of the Shooting Stars (Taviani bros)**\r\nBody Heat (Kasdan)\r\nDiva (Beineix)\r\nDo You Remember Dolly Bell? (Kusturica)\r\nUmrao Jaan (Muzaffar Ali)\r\nThe French Lieutenant\'s Woman (Reisz)\r\nRaiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg)\r\nAn American Werewolf in London (Landis)\r\nMephisto (Szabo)\r\nExcalibur (Boorman)\r\n\r\n1982 Fanny and Alexander (Bergman)*\r\nBlade Runner (Scott)*\r\nThe Draughtsman\'s Contract (Greenaway)\r\nVeronika Voss (Fassbinder)\r\nYol (Guney)\r\nSophie\'s Choice (Pakula)\r\nAnother Way (Makk)\r\nFitzcarraldo (Herzog)\r\nDeadly Run (Miller)\r\nL\'Enfant Secret (Garrel)\r\nIdentification of a Woman (Antonioni)\r\nMissing (Costa-Gavros)\r\nThe Return of Martin Guerre (Vigne)\r\n\r\n1983 Once upon a Time in America (Leone)**\r\nNostalghia (Tarkovsky)*\r\nSans Soleil (Marker)*\r\nLocal Hero (Forsyth)\r\nOne Deadly Summer (Becker)\r\nThe Right Stuff (Kaufman)\r\nThe Man with 2 Brains (C.Reiner) \r\nTrading Places (Landis)\r\nHeat and Dust (Ivory)\r\nVivement Dimanche (Truffaut)\r\nPauline at the Beach (Rohmer)\r\nRisky Business (Brickman)\r\n\r\n1984 Paris, Texas (Wenders)***\r\nBroadway Danny Rose (Allen)\r\nSunday in the Country (Tavernier)\r\nJumping (Tezuka)\r\nTaipei Story (Yang)\r\nCompany of Wolves (Jordan)\r\nHeimat (Reitz)\r\nNausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Miyazaki)\r\nStreetwise (Bell)\r\nChoose Me (Rudolph)\r\nL\'Amour par Terre (Rivette)\r\nLegend of the Suram Fortress (Paradjanov)\r\nRomancing the Stone (Zemeckis)\r\n\r\n1985 Brazil (Gilliam)**\r\nThe Time to Live and the Time to Die (Hou)*\r\nCome and See (Klimov)*\r\nWhen Father was away on Business (Kusturica)\r\nWitness (Weir)\r\nA Room with a View (Ivory)\r\nWhat Have I Done to Deserve This? (Almodovar)\r\nDeath in a French Garden (Deville)\r\nRan (Kurosawa)\r\nPrizzi\'s Honor (Huston)\r\nA Zed and Two Noughts (Greenaway)\r\nThe Official Version (Puenzo)\r\n\r\n1986 The Green Ray (Rohmer)***\r\nStreet of Crocodiles (Quay bros)**\r\nBlue Velvet (Lynch)**\r\nThe Sacrifice (Tarkovsky)*\r\nBashu the Little Stranger (Beiza\'i)\r\nHannah and her Sisters (Allen)\r\nJean de Florette/ Manon des Sources (Berri)\r\nA Summer\'s Tale (Rohmer)\r\nHorse Thief (Tian Zhuangzhuang)\r\nWhere is the Friend\'s Home? (Kiarostami)\r\nFrom the Pole to the Equator (Gianikian, Lucchi)\r\nLabyrinth (Henson)\r\nSomething Wild (Demme)\r\n\r\n1987 My Girlfriend\'s Boyfriend (Rohmer)**\r\nRed Sorghum (Zhang Yimou)**\r\nYeelen (Cisse)*\r\nAu Revoir les Enfants (Malle)\r\nThe Untouchables (De Palma)\r\nWings of Desire (Wenders)\r\nHope and Glory (Boorman)\r\nPelle the Conqueror (August)\r\nThe Dead (Huston)\r\nGood Morning, Babylon (Taviani bros)\r\nRouge (Kwan)\r\nBabette\'s Feast (Axel)\r\nFull Metal Jacket (Kubrick)\r\nA Taxing Woman (Itami)\r\nBlack Widow (Rafelson)\r\n\r\n1988 Dekalog (Kieslowski)*\r\nLandscape in the Mist (Angelopoulos)*\r\nMy Neighbour Totoro (Miyazaki)*\r\nFeelings of Mountains and Water (Te Wei)\r\nGrave of the Fireflies (Takahata)\r\nA Fish Called Wanda (Crichton)\r\nWhy did Bodhi-Dharma Leave for the East? (Bae \r\nYong-Kyun)\r\nThe Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey (Ward)\r\nAlice (Svankmajer)\r\nAshik Kerib (Paradjanov)\r\nSciany (Dumala)\r\nWomen on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (Almodovar)\r\nBig (P.Marshall)\r\nThe Thin Blue Line (Morris)\r\nThe Unbearable Lightness of Being (Kaufman)\r\n\r\n1989 Close Up (Kiarostami)*\r\nCity of Sadness (Hou)\r\nThe Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover \r\n(Greenaway)\r\nCrimes and Misdemeanours (Allen)\r\nFreeze, Die, Come to Life (Kanevsky)\r\nKiki\'s Delivery Service (Miyazaki)\r\nBalance (Lauenstein)\r\nThe Time of the Gypsies (Kusturica)\r\nThe Cow (Petrov)\r\nLast Exit to Brooklyn (Edel)\r\nDarkness/Light/Darkness (Svankmajer)\r\nSex, Lies and Videotape (Soderbergh)\r\n\r\n1990 The Sheltering Sky (Bertolucci)*\r\nMiller\'s Crossing (Coen)*\r\nThe Civil War (Burns)*\r\nGoodfellas (Scorsese)\r\nEdward Scizzorhands (Burton)\r\nNight Sun (Taviani bros)\r\nKorczak (Wajda)\r\nGrifters (Frears)\r\nMy Father\'s Glory/My Mother\'s Castle (Robert)\r\nCyrano de Bergerac (Rappeneau)\r\nNo, or the Vainglory of Command (Oliveira)\r\nAn Angel at my Table (Campion)\r\nEuropa (Von Trier)\r\n\r\n1991 The Double Life of Veronique (Kieslowski)**\r\nRaise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou)*\r\nThe Silence of the Lambs (Demme)*\r\nLa Belle Noiseuse (Rivette)*\r\nA Brighter Summer Day (Yang)\r\nJ.F.K (Stone)\r\nFlirting (Duigan)\r\nThelma and Louise (Scott)\r\nLa Frontera (Larrain)\r\nLife on a String (Chen Kaige)\r\nProspero\'s Books (Greenaway)\r\nEuropa Europa (Holland)\r\nToto the Hero (Van Dormael)\r\n\r\n1992 And Life Goes On (Kiarostami)*\r\nHoward\'s End (Ivory)\r\nBelle Epoque (Trueba)\r\nPassion Fish (Sayles)\r\nLessons of Darkness (Herzog)\r\nOrlando (Potter)\r\nTokyo Decadence (Murakami)\r\nThe Player (Altman)\r\nBram Stoker\'s Dracula (Coppola)\r\nHedd Wyn (Turner)\r\nThe Northerners (Van Warmerdam)\r\nLes Amants du Pont Neuf (Carax)\r\n\r\n1993 Abraham Valley (Oliveira)**\r\nThe Age of Innocence (Scorsese)**\r\nGroundhog Day (Ramis)**\r\nThree Colours Blue (Kieslowski)*\r\nSchindler\'s List (Spielberg)*\r\nThe Wrong Trousers (Park)*\r\nShort Cuts (Altman)\r\nDarkness in Tallinn (Jarvilaturi)\r\nThe Piano (Campion)\r\nThe Nightmare before Xmas (Selick)\r\nThe Secret of Roan Inish (Sayles)\r\nRed Squirrel (Medem)\r\nManhattan Murder Mystery (Allen)\r\nThe Last Bolshevik (Marker)\r\nSonatine (Kitano)\r\nThe Blue Kite (Tian Zhuangzhuang)\r\n\r\n1994 Chungking Express (Wong Kar-Wai)*\r\nBurnt by the Sun (Mikhalkov)*\r\nSilences of the Palace (Tlatli)*\r\nSatantango (Tarr)\r\nTo Live (Zhang Yimou)\r\nPulp Fiction (Tarantino)\r\nEd Wood (Burton)\r\nSmoking/No Smoking (Resnais)\r\nAshes of Time (Wong Kar-Wai)\r\nAmateur (Hartley)\r\nHeavenly Creatures (Jackson)\r\nThe Last Seduction (Dahl)\r\nExotica (Egoyan)\r\n\r\n1995 Maborosi (Kore-eda)***\r\nUlysses\' Gaze (Angelopoulos)**\r\nThe White Balloon (Panahi)*\r\nCyclo (Tran Anh-Hung)\r\nGood Men, Good Women (Hou)\r\nDead Man (Jarmusch)\r\nToy Story (Lasseter)\r\nBefore Sunrise (Linklater)\r\nThe Flower of my Secret (Almodovar)\r\nInstitute Benjamenta (Quay bros)\r\nPride and Prejudice (Langton, BBC)\r\nBabe (Noonan)\r\nForeign Land (Salles)\r\nLa Haine (Kassovitz)\r\nIl Postino (Radford)\r\n\r\n1996 Gabbeh (M.Makhmalbaf)*\r\nTierra (Medem)\r\nThe English Patient (Minghella)\r\nIrma Vep (Assayas)\r\nL\'Appartement (Mimouni)\r\nConspirators of Pleasure (Svankmajer)\r\nDrifting Clouds (Kaurismaki)\r\nChacun Cherche son Chat (Klapisch)\r\nBreaking the Waves (Von Trier)\r\nFallen Angels (Wong Kar-Wai)\r\nWelcome to the Dollhouse (Solondz)\r\nWhen we were Kings (Gast)\r\nLe Bossu (De Broca)\r\nFly Away Home (Ballard)\r\nRidicule (Leconte)\r\n\r\n1997 The Eel (Imamura)\r\nFlatworld (Greaves)\r\nHana-Bi (Kitano)\r\nMother and Son (Sokurov)\r\nThe Taste of Cherry (Kiarostami)\r\nThe Thief (Chukhrai)\r\nThe Ice Storm (Ang Lee)\r\nThe River (Tsai Ming-Liang)\r\nJourney to the Beginning of the World (Oliveira)\r\nL.A.Confidential (Hanson)\r\n\r\n1998 Eternity and a Day (Angelopoulos)**\r\nLovers of the Arctic Circle (Medem)\r\nShow me Love (Moodysson)\r\nAfter the Rain (Koizumi)\r\nCentral Station (Salles)\r\nAn Autumn Tale (Rohmer)\r\nThe Thin Red Line (Malick)\r\nThe Apple (S.Makhmalbaf)\r\nSecret Dfense (Rivette)\r\nFesten (Vinterberg)\r\nThe Dream Life of Angels (Zonca)\r\nRun Lola Run (Tykwer)\r\nThe Colour of Paradise (Majidi)\r\nOf Freaks and Men (Balabanov)\r\nThe General (Boorman)\r\nBesieged (Bertolucci)\r\n\r\n1999 Rosetta (Dardenne bros)**\r\nClouds of May (Ceylan)\r\nTopsy Turvy (Leigh)\r\nEyes Wide Shut (Kubrick)\r\nSolas (Zambrano)\r\nThe Iron Giant (Bird)\r\nAll about my Mother (Almodovar)\r\nThe Wind will Carry us (Kiarostami)\r\nAudition (Miike)\r\nMagnolia (P.T.Anderson)\r\nKikujiro (Kitano)\r\nTitus (Taymor)\r\nLast Resort (Pawlikowski)\r\n\r\n2000 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee)**\r\nWerckmeister Harmonies (Tarr)**\r\nAt the Height of Summer (Tran Anh-Hung)*\r\nEureka (Aoyama)*\r\nIn the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-Wai)*\r\nHeart of the World (Maddin)*\r\nPlatform (Jia Zhangke)\r\nSuzhou River (Lou Ye)\r\nChunhyang (Im)\r\nIsle (Kim Ki-Duk)\r\nThe Day I Became a Woman (Meshkini)\r\nBlackboards (S.Makhmalbaf)\r\nThe Claim (Winterbottom)\r\nLa Ville est Tranquille (Guedigian)\r\n\r\n2001 Mulholland Dr (Lynch)**\r\nWhat Time is it There? (Tsai)*\r\nTake Care of my Cat (Jong Jae-eun)\r\nMonday Morning (Iosseliani)\r\nSpirited away (Miyazaki)\r\nY Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron)\r\nThe Piano Teacher (Haneke)\r\nWinged Migration (Perrin, Cluzaud)\r\nThe Lady and the Duke (Rohmer)\r\nVisitor Q (Miike)\r\n\r\n2002 Far from Heaven (Haynes)*\r\nBlissfully Yours (Weerasethakul)*\r\nFinding Nemo (Stanton)*\r\nTalk to Her (Almodovar)\r\nWaiting for Happiness (Sissako)\r\nBroken Wings (N.Bergman)\r\nFemme Fatale (De Palma)\r\nSnake of June (Tsukamoto)\r\nJapon (Reygadas)\r\nDolls (Kitano)\r\nLifeline (Erice)\r\nLe Chignon d\'Olga (Bonnell)\r\nPistol Opera (Suzuki)\r\nAbouna (Haroun)\r\nRussian Ark (Sokurov)\r\nLilya 4 Ever (Moodysson)\r\nHistorias Minimas (Sorin)\r\nUzak (Ceylan)\r\n\r\n2003 Dogville (Von Trier)**\r\nThe Return (Zvyagintsev)*\r\nOldboy (Park Chan-Wook)\r\nA Tale of Two Sisters (Kim Ji-Woon)\r\nStory of the Weeping Camel (Davaa, Falorni)\r\nHistoire de Marie et Julien (Rivette)\r\nUntold Scandal (E J-Yong)\r\nTwilight Samurai (Yamada)\r\nMemories of Murder (Bong Joon-Ho)\r\nBig Fish (Burton)\r\nGerry (Van Sant)\r\nGoodbye Lenin (Becker)\r\n\r\n2004 Howl\'s Moving Castle (Miyazaki)*\r\nInnocence (Hadzihalilovic)*\r\nBefore Sunset (Linklater)*\r\nMoolad (Sembene)*\r\nThe Life Aquatic (W.Anderson)*\r\nThe Weeping Meadow (Angelopoulos)\r\nThe Incredibles (Bird)\r\n2046 (Wong Kar-wai)\r\nMind Game (Yuasa)\r\nThe Power of Nightmares (Curtis)\r\nHouse of the Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou)\r\nA Very Long Engagement (Jeunet)\r\nThe Consequences of Love (Sorrentino)\r\nMotorcycle Diaries (Salles)\r\nMachuca (Wood)\r\n\r\n2005 The Piano Tuner of Earthquakes (Quay bros)**\r\nRegular Lovers (Garrel)**\r\nThe New World (Malick)*\r\nWayward Cloud (Tsai Ming-Liang)*\r\nPrincess Raccoon (Suzuki)\r\nThe World (Jia Zhangke)\r\nL\'Enfant (Dardenne bros)\r\nWhere the Truth Lies (Egoyan)\r\nGood Night and Good Luck (Clooney)\r\nThe Proposition (Hillcoat)\r\nThree Times (Hou)\r\nSophie Scholl (Rothemund)\r\n\r\n2006 Climates (Ceylan)\r\nInland Empire (Lynch)\r\nBlack Book (Verhoeven)\r\nOffside (Panahi)\r\nGolden Door (Crialese)\r\nRed Road (Arnold)\r\nBamako (Sissako)\r\nThe Constant Gardener (Meirelles)\r\nKiwi! (Permedi)\r\nCasino Royale (Campbell)\r\nThe Lives of Others (Von Donersmarck)\r\n\r\n2007 The War on Democracy (Pilger, Martin)','507f6c0e9c03bdbd785ed99bdfdfa668',0,'','ChuDgU3w',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6966,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197586140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: My 1001 favourite films','Nice list, glad to see there\'s another fan of Ozu\'s Tokyo Twilight out there. There are still far too many films on my to see list to attempt something of this kind, but applaud your effort. Oh and welcome back.','70053fa4eb7be53683ff90db8c38c98b',0,'','ZMTJnvYp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6967,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197599520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: My 1001 favourite films','Well, it hasn\'t been easy getting back- i kept bringing up the old forum from 2004 or getting stuck at ezboard for sme reason.','0c3d086a156da1696db58b111b4e2e9a',0,'','LBeFxCuq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6968,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197604380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: My 1001 favourite films','Hope the problem has been solved. I did a brief calculation and figured I have about 600 films I\'d consider really strong, in order to make a list of this kind I\'d wind up letting in a few too many \"pretty good\" films as opposed to great/excellent ones. After watching Judex this past summer my impatience for Fieullade releases is getting distracting.','5d93203a3887777fd937b4e45612be17',0,'','3jztu9kW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6969,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197607440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: My 1001 favourite films','Great to see you posting again John  \r\nAnd I also hope the problems accessing our site have been solved. \r\n\r\nMy problem\'s the same as wpqx\'s - I have around 700 favorites, so a Top 500 would be a managable task. For 1000 of them, I\'ll need some more years of movie watching. As could be expected, we do have a lot of favorites in common, though. \r\n\r\nI\'m still short on my Mizo (seen only three, and so far one of them is a personal favorite) - I\'ve actually seen more Naruse, Okamoto, and some others by now...','7c76fa147def43c43ab0d49dc104c9fd',0,'','ZaSnGiXo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6970,1514,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197613800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: My 1001 favourite films','Yes, it\'s great to have you back, John. Here\'s hoping that you\'ll be able to manage some time for us on a regular basis. And thanks for sharing that wonderful list of yours.','49b5b545e572d5a0a7103c55a91cab7f',0,'','27VdjD3m',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6971,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197582240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Czech/Slovak top 10 films','My favourites:\r\n\r\nClosely Observed Trains (Menzel)\r\nMarketa Lazarova (Vlacil)\r\nThe Hand (Trnka)\r\nDaisies (Chytilova)\r\nThe Party and the Guests (Nemec)\r\nValerie and her Week of Wonders (Jires)\r\nAlice (Svankmajer)\r\nThe Cremator (Herz)\r\nThe Ear (Kachyna)\r\nA Blonde in Love (Forman)\r\n\r\ni\'m confident i\'d add something by Karel Zeman when i can get to see some of his feature-length films in full...','3b6c8bab39c78a2819fe7a47b2f60613',0,'','vYcJonMG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6972,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197586140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','No Diamonds of the Night? At least for the time being that\'d be my favorite Czech film.','79b1061aec4c512aac51dc06c9f6e37f',0,'','46dWQkzU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6973,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197599400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','Ah that\'s my #1 must-see Czech film! Do you know of dvd?','301a58e6f6cfbce2e9fc9f42d3e1a8ca',0,'','DH9NatPj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6974,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197604440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','Not that I know of, Facets released a VHS of it, and that\'s how I saw the film. I\'m just worried that all the expectation built up for Marketa Lazarova is going to make it inevitably a little disappointing.','63aab2e29c0ff675392fc4da11c2d502',0,'','FTn3kf5z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6975,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197608640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','I also saw it on a poor Facets VHS, but the film is good enough, to risk this endeavour. \r\n\r\nI\'m glad i have some of your Top ten films on DVD, just waiting to be seen. \r\nI\'m grateful that a company like Second Run is out there, giving us yet unreleased gems in a good quality on DVD.\r\n\r\nMy (current) Top Five:\r\n\r\n1. Sedmikrasky Daisies (1966 / Vera Chytilov)\r\n2. Demanty noci Diamonds of the Night + Sousto A Bite to Eat (1964 + 1960 / Jan Nemec)\r\n3. Moznosti dialogu Dimensions of Dialogue (1982 / Jan Svankmajer)\r\n4. Cern Petr Black Peter (1964 / Milos Forman)\r\n5. Mal morsk vla The little Mermaid (1975 / Karel Kachyna)\r\n\r\nDon\'t have more favorite films that would qualify at the moment, but I\'ve seen a dozen other good and great films from that country.','04d7776eb86fa32ec9219ca326b7d41a',0,'','w4XBy6ku',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6976,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197613020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','Can\'t wait to see Marketa Lazarov. I\'ve considered ordering the Second Run DVD but I\'m hoping that Facets, or another U.S. distributor, will soon make a move.','963c90dec8843513b5fb011af6c81d68',0,'','3DWwzxvm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6977,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197622740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','This year I got a chance to see The Wonderful Years that Sucked and hope that it finds a DVD release someday, considering the film was made in 1997 I don\'t think a regular theatrical run is going to happen. Although we may complain about the availability of certain Czech films it is appalling how little is available from the country in the years following the new wave.','08d6a433e9625528d2636ce5678caeb1',0,'','NjMDwn9g',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6978,1515,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197721020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Czech/Slovak top 10 films','I could still use a few more proper Czechoslovak New Wave releases, but you\'re right that not much is available from the period which followed.\r\n\r\nNemec\'s Diamonds of the Night is out on Czech DVD with subs, but I don\'t own it. The same is true for Petr Nikolaev\'s film.','8bd8487d0e14071d313429487f311831',0,'','HGePjCDJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6979,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196831160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','Stumbled across this in another blog. Curious to see a list designed to include films available on DVD. That said I was a little surprised to find that I had already seen all the films on the list.\r\n\r\neddieonfilm.blogspot.com/2005/12/foreign-art.html','5bfec60f979dcc5858704a8a450d9e7b',0,'','VwcfFmHG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6980,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196839680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','Looks like yet another consensus list of classic \"critics\" films...','239255277140198fbfdd034cb7b9ce7b',0,'','W8PRaKMZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6981,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197552720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','I didn\'t see any mention of DVD availability in the intro.\r\n\r\nHowever, I recently came across a list -- compiled by Tom Charity for The Vancouver Sun -- which considered it as a key factor: \"\'100\' Greatest Films to Build Your DVD Collection\" (pdf).','e877c1e4d70e4cc96c16f018ccb56797',0,'','secP5Y0v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6982,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197554580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','Regardless both lists seem a little silly. Not to say I don\'t like making my own lists, but sometimes it can get a little stale reading someone else\'s. I\'ve come to prefer the lists that I actually feel I can learn something from. Even though Rosenbaum might be a pompous ass and anybody who wouldn\'t list Casablanca or The Godfather in their top 1000 reeks of film snobbery, some of his titles have opened my eyes to a far more diverse group of films than most \"essential\" lists.','92adbee594d1cafe4babde5c61ea3cd0',0,'','LUZvaXSR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6983,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197579720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','I\'ve also come across Charity\'s list recently. It\'s certainly helpful to somebody not into movies who wants to see and own some great films on DVD. I find this approach quite useful at times (listing what is available in one form or another), but unfortunately we have advanced a lot as film fans, and i don\'t think any of those \"standard\" best of lists gets any of us excited anymore. \r\n\r\nRosenbaum\'s list is very interesting, on the other hand.','29cf9eb0ef44ae6edb6d2a08344981d9',0,'','lJhWAMok',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6984,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197580620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','Well, it\'s a good introductory list, better than many, and i like the comment (Jim Emerson) on Sansho:\r\n\r\n\"If I had to choose just one movie one movie above all others on this list, Mizoguchi\'s would be it. I\'ve long felt that if there were a god, the closest expression we\'re likely to find on this earth in in this movie. It\'s not the only film on my list that gives me goosebumps whenever the title is mentioned, but I don\'t believe there\'s ever been a greater motion picture in any language. This one sees life and memory as a creek flowing into a lake out into a river and into the sea.\"','fba1bae165d4e6a3e9e1a80ec328afcf',0,'','LMD7waxo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6985,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197586260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','Just the other day I read Bordwell\'s recollection of the first time he saw the film, as I\'m sure you\'re aware of John, he\'s quite the Mizoguchi admirer.','53b9ac76c344a6611ca866a152a076ad',0,'','4EnLGtYX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6986,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197599640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','And of course my admiration of him (DB) + his of Mizo are purely coincidental.','31cf83d21816eb718e4dba6277d91a70',0,'','kf4RVYWv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6987,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197604200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','I\'d certainly like to read his Figures Traced in Light book, as I\'ve only read the introduction and a few appendixes of it. Other than Street of Shame I\'ve pretty much run out of available Mizoguchi films, but I know that there are a few that do exist in prints around the world, so hopefully someone will put them out soon. Considering how many Naruse and Ozu films have been released internationally over the last couple of years.','b3dea48b5e5e59b2135f1c994f748596',0,'','lwsmzLCq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6988,1516,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197615000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: A random list of the 100 best non-English Language Films','A list by itself doesn\'t inspire me unless I admire the author and his critical skills and I know that the individual is more than capable of defending the films in aesthetic terms (Rosenbaum doesn\'t qualify for me in that regard). \r\n\r\n*Naurse/Mizoguchi on DVD/VHS.','7a9ac62f284c333347971ad92f54a9a7',0,'','kClMiJE2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6989,1517,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1197580380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Favourite short films','I suppose this belongs here as much as the short/avant-garde board. Quite a lot are on youtube. \r\n\r\n1895 Arrival of a Train (Lumiere bros) \r\n\r\n1901 Man with the Rubber Head (Melies) \r\n\r\n1902 A Trip to the Moon (Melies) \r\n\r\n1906 Dream of a Rarebit Fiend (Porter) \r\n\r\n1914 Twilight of a Woman\'s Soul (Bauer) \r\nA Child of the Big City (Bauer) \r\n\r\n1915 Daydreams (Bauer) \r\n\r\n1918 A Dog\'s Life (Chaplin) \r\n\r\n1920 One Week (Cline, Keaton) \r\nThe Scarecrow (Cline, Keaton) \r\n\r\n1921 The Goat (Keaton) \r\nManhatta (Strand) \r\n\r\n1922 Cops (Cline) \r\n\r\n1923 The Smiling Madame Beudet (Dulac) \r\nLe Retour a la Raison (Man Ray) \r\n\r\n1924 Entr\'acte (Clair) \r\nBallet Mcanique (Leger) \r\n\r\n1925 Jerry the Troublesome Tyke (Bilby, Griffiths) \r\n\r\n1926 Town Rat, Country Rat (Starewicz) \r\nMnilmontant (Kirsanov) \r\n\r\n1928 The Seashell and the Clergyman (Dulac) \r\n\r\n1929 Un Chien Andalou (Bunuel) \r\n\r\n1932 The Music Box (Parrott) \r\nBetty Boop, M.D (Fleischer) \r\n\r\n1933 Night on Bald Mountain (Alexeieff, Parker) \r\nZro de Conduite (Vigo) \r\nBetty Boop\'s Snow White (Fleischer) \r\nLand without Bread (Bunuel) \r\n\r\n1934 The Mascot (Starewicz) \r\nSong of Ceylon (Wright) \r\n\r\n1935 Composition in Blue (Fischinger) \r\n\r\n1936 Partie de Campagne (Renoir) \r\nRose Hobart (Cornell) \r\nBirth of the Robot (Lye) \r\n\r\n1937 Clock Cleaners (Disney) \r\n\r\n1940 Themis (Grant) \r\nSwinging the Lambeth Walk (Lye) \r\n\r\n1943 Meshes of the Afternoon (Deren) \r\n\r\n1944 Jammin\' the Blues (Mili) \r\nAt Land (Deren) \r\n\r\n1948 Inspirace (Zeman) \r\n\r\n1949 Begone Dull Care (Mclaren) \r\n\r\n1952 Neighbours (McLaren) \r\n\r\n1953 White Mane (Lamorisse) \r\nDuck Amuck (Jones) \r\n\r\n1955 One Froggy Evening (Jones) \r\nNight and Fog (Resnais) \r\n\r\n1957 What\'s Opera, Doc? (Jones) \r\nMirror Animations (H.Smith) \r\n\r\n1959 Astronauts (Borowczyk, Marker) \r\n\r\n1962 The House is Black (Farrokhzad) \r\n\r\n1965 The Hand (Trnka) \r\n\r\n1966 My Green Crocodile (Kurchevsky) \r\n\r\n1970 Grandmother (Lynch) \r\n\r\n1973 The Great Ecstasy of Woodcarver Steiner (Herzog) \r\n\r\n1975 Hedgehog in the Fog (Norstein) \r\n\r\n1977 Metamorphosis of Mr Samsa (Leaf) \r\n\r\n1979 Tale of Tales (Norstein) \r\n\r\n1980 Fly (Rofusz) \r\n\r\n1982 Dimensions of Dialogue (Svankmajer) \r\n\r\n1984 Jumping (Tezuka) \r\n\r\n1986 Street of Crocodiles (Quay bros) \r\n\r\n1988 Feelings of Mountains and Water (Te Wei) \r\nSciany (Dumala) \r\n\r\n1989 The Cow (Petrov) \r\nDarkness/Light/Darkness (Svankmajer) \r\nBalance (Lauenstein) \r\nIlha das Flores (Furtado) \r\n\r\n1993 The Wrong Trousers (Park) \r\n\r\n1996 Wind (Ivanyi) \r\n\r\n1997 Flatworld (Greaves) \r\n\r\n2000 Heart of the World (Maddin) \r\n\r\n2002 Lifeline (Erice) \r\n\r\n2006 Kiwi! (Permedi) \r\nTak Tic (Boddendijk)','9578d9ffe7fc59c330fcc9ed4cfc3565',0,'','YJ5i9vdN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6990,1517,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202000520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Favourite short films','Great idea to focus on shorts. Too many times they are ruefully neglected. There are some good short film festivals in Germany, and sometimes shorts got screened on German TV. So I\'ve seen at least a few hundred, though I still need to catch up with a lot. But I\'m very fond of a lot of shorts, and some of the ones on my list, would also appear on my overall 100 Best Films, if I would compile it today. \r\n\r\nI\'ll try my own list (seen 20 from yours), and I\'ll adapt your \"star system\". \r\n\r\nPS: I\'m very fond of Starewicz, and I think \"Town Rat, Country Rat\" is one of his best films. Didn\'t include it, because I need to rewatch a lot of his work. I\'d also love to see some Pelechian, and I need to rewatch a lot of shorts. For example, I believe that some of Dave Fleischer\'s Superman shorts might become some of my favorite films, though I didn\'t like them when I watched them the last time. And of course there\'s Disney, and Warner Brothers, and all of the other American companies that have made some great stuff. \r\n\r\n1895 La sortie des usines Lumière \"Leaving the Lumiere Factory\" (Louis Lumiere / France) \r\n\r\n1901 Barbe bleu \"Bluebeard\" (Georges Méliès / France) \r\n1909 A Corner in Wheat (David Wark Griffith / USA) \r\n\r\n1910 Mobilier fidèle \"The Automatic Moving Company\" (Èmile Cohl / France) * \r\nThe unchanging Sea (David Wark Griffith / USA) \r\n\r\n1915 The Escape on the Fast Freight (J.P. McGowan / USA) \r\nLiliya Belgii \"The Lily of Belgium\" (Wladyslaw Starewicz / Russia) \r\n\r\n1916 The Count (Charles Chaplin / USA) \r\n\r\n1918 Shoulder Arms (Charles Chaplin / USA) ** \r\n\r\n1921 Be my Wife [fragment: 13 min.] (Max Linder / USA) \r\n\r\n1922 The Electric House (Edward F. Cline, Buster Keaton / USA) \r\n\r\n1928 Un Chien Andalou (Luis Bunuel, Salvador Dali / France) *** \r\n\r\n1930 Bezucelná procházka \"Aimless Walk\" (Alexander Hammid / Czechoslovakia) \r\nLe sang d\'un poète \"The Blood of a Poet\" (Jean Cocteau / France) \r\n\r\n1931 Na Prazském hrade \"The Prague Castle\" (Alexander Hammid / Czechoslovakia) \r\n\r\n1933 Zéro de conduite \"Zero for Conduct\" (Jean Vigo / France) \r\n\r\n1935 Listopad (Otakar Vávra / Czechoslovakia) \r\n\r\n1938 Mickey\'s Trailer (Ben Sharpsteen / USA) \r\n\r\n1939 Donald\'s Cousin Gus (Jack King / USA) \r\n\r\n1943 Meshes of the Afternoon (Maya Deren, Alexander Hammid / USA) \r\n\r\n1947 L\'école des facteurs \"School for Postmen\" (Jacques Tati / France) \r\n\r\n1950 Un chant d\'amour \"A Song of Love\" (Jean Genet / France) \r\n\r\n1962 La Jetée \"The Pier\" (Chris Marker / France) ** \r\nAntoine et Colette \"Antoine and Colette\" (Francois Truffaut / France) \r\n\r\n1964 Les Mistons \"The Brats\" (Francois Truffaut / France) \r\n\r\n1965 Hakob Hovnatanyan (Sergei Parajanov / Soviet Union) *** \r\nHarold Stevenson No.1 and No.2 (Danny Williams / USA) \r\nJohann Sebastian Bach: Fantasia G-moll \"Johann Sebastian Bach: Fantasia in G Minor\" (Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia) \r\nNow (Santiago Álvarez / Cuba) \r\n\r\n1966 Charlie Brown\'s All Stars (Bill Melendez / USA) \r\nLe père Noël a les yeux bleus \"Santa Claus Has Blue Eyes\" (Jean Eustache / France) \r\n\r\n1968 Byt \"The Flat\" (Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia) \r\n\r\n1969 Ich nicht (Wolfgang Petersen / West Germany) \r\n\r\n1970 Gratinirani mozak Pupilije Ferkeverk (Karpo Acimovic Godina / Yugoslavia) \r\n\r\n1971 Zvahlav aneb Saticky Slameného Huberta \"Jabberwocky\" (Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia) \r\n\r\n1973 The Great Ecstasy of Woodcarver Steiner (Herzog) \r\n\r\n1974 El reino de los Mochicas (Luis Figueroa / Peru) \r\n\r\n1975 Meikyu-tan (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\n\r\n1976 La Soufrière (Werner Herzog / West Germany) \r\n\r\n1977 Issunbushi o kijutsu suru kokoromi (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\nKage no eiga - nito onna (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\nKeshigomu (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\nMaldoror no uta (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\nShoken-ki (Shuji Terayama / Japan) * \r\n\r\n1979 Skazka skazok \"Tale of Tales\" (Yuriy Norshteyn / Soviet Union) \r\n\r\n1982 Moznosti dialogu \"Dimensions of Dialogue\" (Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia) ** \r\nVincent (Tim Burton / USA) \r\n\r\n1984 Frankenweenie (Tim Burton / USA) \r\n\r\n1985 Die Anprobe (1938) (1985 / West Germany) \r\n\r\n1986 Night Music (Stan Brakhage / USA) \r\n\r\n1988 Feet of Song (Erica Russell / UK) \r\n\r\n1990 The Death of Stalinism in Bohemia (Jan Svankmajer / UK) * \r\n\r\n1992 The Bitches (Richard Kern / USA) \r\n\r\n1993 Wallace and Gromit in The Wrong Trousers (Nick Park / UK) * \r\nUchiage hanabi, shita kara Miruka? Yoko kara Miruka? \"Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom?\" (Shunji Iwai / Japan) \r\n\r\n1995 Der Kaktus (Franz Wintsenzen / Germany) \r\nWallace and Gromit in A Close Shave (Nick Park / UK) \r\n\r\n1996 Human Behavioural Case Studies, Part One (Adam Benjamin Elliot / Australia) * \r\nUncle (Adam Benjamin Elliot / Australia) \r\nUne robe d\'été \"A Summer Dress\" (François Ozon / France) \r\n\r\n1998 Alone. Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold / Austria) \r\nCousin (Adam Benjamin Elliot / Australia) \r\n\r\n1999 Brother (Adam Benjamin Elliot / Australia) \r\n\r\n2000 Blood: The Last Vampire (Hiroyuki Kitakubo / Japan) \r\nSoins et beauté (Alejandra Rojo / France) \r\nThe Heart of the World (Guy Maddin / Canada) \r\n\r\n2001 Tu vois (François Ruiz / France) * \r\nEat (Bill Plympton / USA) \r\nFreunde \"The Whiz Kids\" (Jan Krüger,Oliver Schwabe / Germany) \r\n\r\n2002 About Time 2 (Mike Figgis / USA) \r\nDans le noir du temps (Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\n- segment \"USA\" from 11\'09\'01 - September 11 (Sean Penn / USA) \r\n- segment \"Japan\" from 11\'09\'01 - September 11 (Shohei Imamura / Japan) \r\n\r\n2004 Nicht ohne Risiko (Harun Farocki / Germany) \r\nVisul lui Liviu \"Liviu\'s Dream\" (Corneliu Porumboiu / Romania) \r\n\r\n2005 ...Es wird jemand kommen, der ja zu mir sagt \"Ruth\" (Michael Blume / Germany) * \r\nAmour neutre \"Love neutral\" (Pierre Coulibeuf / France) * \r\nJane\'s Birthday Trip (Etienne Kallos / USA) \r\n\r\n2007 Hotel Chevalier (Wes Anderson / USA)','be48037278ccb29da5b467b57c666121',0,'','zkFwWVGv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6991,1517,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202074920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Favourite short films','For shame, neither one of you had a film from Tex Avery.','0cf54315fdaf481c09070c5a48a32fd8',0,'','h1upkRTK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6992,1517,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202093940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Favourite short films','Yes, I know... I don\'t remember any of those I\'ve seen vividly enough. Looking forward to (re)discover them as an adult!','a74f60f1eba80086e63b8bac019c5c37',0,'','MCH4U56k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6993,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150920660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Best Films of the 50s','Sorry to jump so far back in time, but I\'m honestly a little sick of talking about films from the 90s. I don\'t recall ever having much discussion on films from the 50s, so I figured we could start here. There is no format for this like the other\'s, but as for myself I\'m listing 5 or near 5 star films from each year of the decade. If the day comes when I finalize a top ten or top 15 list for each year, then I\'ll probably edit it, but for now, just listing each film that would be worthy of such a list. Rather than use my ridiculous methods of tracking down US release dates, again it\'s all international release dates as supplied by allmovie.com (which recently changed their format much to my disappointment).\r\n\r\n1950 \r\nRashomon (Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\nAdam\'s Rib (George Cukor / US)\r\nLa Ronde (Max Ophuls / France)\r\nLos Olvidados (Luis Bunuel / Mexico)\r\nSunset Boulevard (Billy Wilder / US)\r\nOrpheus (Jean Cocteau / France)\r\nIn a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray / US)\r\nAll About Eve (Joseph L. Mankiewicz / US)\r\nFather of the Bride (Vincente Minelli / US)\r\nNight and the City (Jules Dassin / UK)\r\nThe Asphalt Jungle (John Huston / US)\r\nBorn Yesterday (George Cukor / US)\r\nHarvey (Henry Koster / US)\r\nWhere the Sidewalk Ends (Otto Preminger / US)\r\nCinderella (Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske / US)\r\nDiary of a Country Priest (Robert Bresson / France)\r\n\r\n1951 \r\nAce in the Hole (Billy Wilder / US)\r\nEarly Summer (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\nStrangers on a Train (Alfred Hitchcock / US)\r\nThe Day the Earth Stood Still (Robert Wise / US)\r\nA Place in the Sun (George Stevens / US)\r\nA Christmas Carol (Brian Desmond Hurst / UK)\r\nDetective Story (William Wyler / US)\r\nA Streetcar Named Desire (Elia Kazan / US)\r\nAn American in Paris (Vincente Minelli / US)\r\nMiracle in Milan (Vittorio De Seca / Italy)\r\n\r\n1952\r\nSingin\' in the Rain (Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly / US)\r\nHigh Noon (Fred Zinnemann / US)\r\nOthello (Orson Welles / France, Italy, Morocco)\r\nIkiru (Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\nThe Bad and the Beautiful (Vincente Minelli / US)\r\nUmberto D (Vittorio De Seca / Italy)\r\nThe Narrow Margin (Richard Fliescher / US)\r\n\r\n1953 \r\nTokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\nFrom Here to Eternity (Fred Zinnemann / US)\r\nThe Big Heat (Fritz Lang / US)\r\nVoyage in Italy (Roberto Rosellini / Italy)\r\nUgetsu (Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan)\r\nPickup on South Street (Samuel Fuller / US)\r\nThe Bandwagon (Vincente Minnelli / US)\r\nGlen or Glenda? (Edward D. Wood Jr. / US)\r\n\r\n1954 \r\nSeven Brides for Seven Brothers (Stanley Donen / US)\r\nOn the Waterfront (Elia Kazan / US)\r\nThe Crucified Lovers (Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan)\r\nSeven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\nA Generation (Andrzej Wajda / Poland)\r\nSansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan)\r\nPather Panchali (Satyajit Ray / India)\r\nRear Window (Alfred Hitchcock / US)\r\nA Star is Born (George Cukor / US)\r\nLa Strada (Federico Fellini / Italy)\r\nSabrina (Billy Wilder / US)\r\nCreature From the Black Lagoon (Jack Arnold / US)\r\n\r\n1955\r\nOrdet (Carl Theodor Dreyer / Denmark)\r\nLola Montes (Max Ophuls / France)\r\nMarty (Delbert Mann / US)\r\nDiabolique (Henri Georges Clouzot / France)\r\nNight and Fog (Alain Resnais / France)\r\nRebel Without a Cause (Nicholas Ray / US)\r\nEast of Eden (Elia Kazan / US) \r\nKiss Me Deadly (Robert Aldrich / US)\r\nSmiles of a Summer Night (Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\nThe Man With the Golden Arm (Otto Preminger / US)\r\nRififi (Jules Dassin / France)\r\nSummertime (David Lean / US, UK)\r\nMr. Roberts (John Ford, Mervyn Leroy / US)\r\nRichard III (Laurence Olivier / UK)\r\nThe Lady and the Tramp (Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske / US)\r\nThe Man From Laramie (Anthony Mann / US)\r\n\r\n1956\r\nBigger than Life (Nicholas Ray / US)\r\nThe Ten Commandments (Cecile B. DeMille / US)\r\nThe Searchers (John Ford / US)\r\nInvasion of the Body Snatchers (Don Spiegel / US)\r\nA Man Escaped (Robert Bresson / France)\r\nThe Killing (Stanley Kubrick / US)\r\nForbidden Planet (Fred Wilcox / US)\r\nBus Stop (Joshua Logan / US)\r\n\r\n1957\r\nFunny Face (Stanley Donen / US)\r\nKanal (Andrzej Wajda / Poland)\r\nBridge on the River Kwai (David Lean / US, UK)\r\nThe Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\n12 Angry Men (Sydney Lumet / US)\r\nWild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\nPaths of Glory (Stanley Kubrick / US)\r\nThe Cranes are Flying (Mikhail Kalatozov / USSR)\r\nThrone of Blood (Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\nNights of Cabiria (Federico Fellini / Italy)\r\nWitness for the Prosecution (Billy Wilder / US)\r\nAparajito (Satyajit Ray / India)\r\nLes Girls (George Cukor / US)\r\nThe Lower Depths (Akira Kurosawa / Japan)\r\nPeyton Place (Mark Robson / US)\r\nHeaven Knows Mr. Allison (John Huston / US) \r\nTokyo Twilight (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\nIl Grido (Michelangelo Antonioni / Italy)\r\n\r\n1958\r\nAshes and Diamonds (Andrzej Wajda / Poland)\r\nThe Magician (Ingmar Bergman / Sweden)\r\nTouch of Evil (Orson Welles / US)\r\nMon Oncle (Jacques Tati / France, Italy)\r\nSome Came Running (Vincente Minelli / US)\r\nMan of the West (Anthony Mann / US)\r\nSouth Pacific (Joshua Logan / US)\r\nLook Back in Anger (Tony Richardson / UK)\r\nEroica (Andrzej Munk / Poland)\r\n\r\n1959\r\nBen-Hur (William Wyler / US)\r\nThe 400 Blows (Francois Truffaut / France)\r\nSome Like it Hot (Billy Wilder / US)\r\nGeneral Della Rovere (Roberto Rossellini / France, Italy)\r\nRio Bravo (Howard Hawks / US)\r\nGood Morning (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan)\r\nPickpocket (Robert Bresson / France)\r\nNorth by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock / US)\r\nThe World of Apu (Satyajit Ray / India)\r\nAnatomy of a Murder (Otto Preminger / US)\r\nBig Deal on Madonna Street (Mario Monicelli / Italy)\r\nShadows (John Cassevettes / US)\r\n\r\n*Edited for Glen or Glenda?','d530757b7eafdc9c525912de7a12fd93',0,'','Cp0inu84',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6994,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1151207460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','The 50s are a decade from which I haven\'t seen too many films (the only one I know even less from are the 40s), and that\'s a reason why I chose the 90s for my previous post. \"> \r\n\r\nSome personal favs on your list, and many I haven\'t seen. \"> \r\nBut also some that I would have considered when I was younger, but which \"disappointed\" at the most recent re-watches (On the Waterfront, The Seven Samurai, Rear Window,...). By that I mean they just weren\'t as great as I remembered (I haven\'t lost my appreciation of them though, and who knows, maybe they\'ll be included after another rewatch \"> ). \r\nI hope this won\'t happen with many of the one\'s I\'ll list below, and as time goes by only more will be added. \"> \r\n\r\n1950 \r\nRashômon (Akira Kurosawa / Japan) \r\nSunset Blvd. (Billy Wilder / USA) \r\n\r\n1951 \r\nBakushû Early Summer (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan) \r\nSusana (Luis Bunuel / Mexico) \r\n\r\n1952 \r\nLe plaisir House of Pleasure (Max Ophüls / France) \r\nLimelight (Charles Chaplin / USA) \r\nSaikaku ichidai onna The Life of Oharu (Kenji Mizoguchi / Japan) \r\nUmberto D. (Vittorio De Sica / Italy) \r\n\r\n1953 \r\nPünktchen und Anton Punktchen and Anton (Thomas Engel / West Germany, Austria) \r\n\r\n1954 \r\nMagnificent Obsession (Douglas Sirk / USA) \r\n\r\n1955 \r\nDolina Miru Seargent Jim (France Stiglic / Yugoslavia) \r\nOrdet The Word (Carl Theodor Dreyer / Denmark) \r\nPather Panchali Song of the Road (Satyajit Ray / India) \r\nRebel Without a Cause (Nicholas Ray / USA) \r\nThe Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton / USA) \r\nUkigumo Floating Clouds (Mikio Naruse / Japan) \r\n\r\n1956 \r\nSoshun Early Spring (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan) \r\n\r\n1957 \r\nAparajito The Unvanquished (Satyajit Ray / India) \r\nKumonosu jô Throne of Blood (Akira Kurosawa / Japan) \r\nLetjat zhuravli The Cranes are flying (Mikheil Kalatozishvili / Soviet Union) \r\nPaths of Glory (Stanley Kubrick / USA) \r\nThe Incredible Shrinking Man (Jack Arnold / USA) \r\nYorokobi mo kanashimi mo ikutoshitsuki Years of Joy and Sorrow (Keisuke Kinoshita / Japan) \r\n\r\n1958 \r\nCat on a Hot Tin Roof (Richard Brooks / USA) \r\nDokufu Takahashi oden A wicked Woman (Nobuo Nakagawa / Japan) \r\nPopiól i diament Ashes and Diamonds (Andrzej Wajda / Poland) \r\nThe Fly (Kurt Neumann / USA) \r\nVertigo (Alfred Hitchcock / USA) \r\n\r\n1959 \r\nAnatomy of a Murder (Otto Preminger / USA) \r\nBallada o soldate Ballad of a Soldier (Grigori Chukhraj / Soviet Union) \r\nBen-Hur (Wiliam Wyler / USA) \r\nLes quatre cents coups The 400 Blows (Francois Truffaut / France) \r\nNorth by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock / USA) \r\nRio Bravo (Howard Hawks / USA) \r\n\r\nby country \r\n\r\nUSA: 14 \r\nJapan: 8 \r\nFrance: 2 \r\nIndia: 2 \r\nSoviet Union: 2 \r\nDenmark: 1 \r\nItaly: 1 \r\nMexico: 1 \r\nPoland: 1 \r\nWest Germany: 1 \r\nYugoslavia: 1 \r\n\r\n________ \r\n\r\nTotal: 34 \r\n\r\n*added Luis Bunuel\'s Susana (1951). A film for the ages.','4ffacc6e0dc13b82c7f6de5f5463205d',0,'','8upThmUn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6995,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1151207520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','films I need to see again for re-evaluation and a possible entry into the above list:\r\n\r\nThe Asphalt Jungle (John Huston / USA / 1950)\r\nOrphe (Jean Cocteau / France / 1950)\r\n\r\nAngel Face (Otto Preminger / USA / 1952)\r\nHigh Noon (Fred Zinnemann / USA / 1952)\r\n\r\nLa signora senza camelie The Lady without Camelias (Michelangelo Antonioni / Italy / 1953) \r\nLe salaire de la peur The Wages of Fear (Henri-Georges Clouzot / France / 1953) \r\nTokyo monogatari Tokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu / Japan / 1953) \r\n\r\nTouchez pas au grisbi Hands Off the Loot (Jacques Becker / France / 1954)\r\n\r\nEast of Eden (Elia Kazan / USA / 1955)\r\nKiss Me Deadly (Robert Aldrich / USA / 1955)\r\nMr. Arkadin (Orson Welles / Spain, France, Switzerland / 1955)\r\n\r\nUn condamn mort s\'est chapp ou Le vent souffle o il veut A Man escaped (Robert Bresson / France / 1956)\r\n\r\nThe Bridge on the River Kwai (David Lean / UK, USA / 1957)\r\n\r\nWindow Water Baby Moving (Stan Brakhage / USA / 1958)','8932319dcd5ecb4b80bdf7c389cf6a71',0,'','v4kgwPeo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6996,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1151240520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Best Films of the 50s','1950 Orphe (Cocteau)*\r\nSunset Boulevard (Wilder)\r\nDiary of a Country Priest (Bresson)\r\nRashomon (Kurosawa)\r\n\r\n1951 Early Summer (Ozu)\r\nMiss Oyu (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Lady from Musashino (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Lavender Hill Mob (Crichton)\r\nThe River (Renoir)\r\nThe Day the Earth Stood Still (Wise)\r\nA Place in the Sun (Stevens)\r\n\r\n1952 Singin in the Rain (Donen, Kelly)*\r\nThe Life of Oharu (Mizoguchi)*\r\nCasque d\'Or (Becker)\r\nThe Quiet Man (Ford)\r\nBaiju Bawra (Bhatt)\r\nLe Plaisir (Ophuls)\r\nEl (Bunuel)\r\nOthello (Welles) \r\n\r\n1953 Tokyo Story (Ozu)*\r\nThe Band Wagon (Minnelli)*\r\nUgetsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)*\r\nMadame de (Ophuls)\r\nVoyage to Italy (Rossellini)\r\nRoman Holiday (Wyler)\r\nThe Big Heat (Lang)\r\nDuck Amuck (Jones)\r\n\r\n1954 Sansho the Bailiff (Mizoguchi)*\r\nSeven Samurai (Kurosawa)*\r\nSenso (Visconti)\r\nJohnny Guitar (N.Ray)\r\nRear Window (Hitchcock)\r\nChikamatsu Monogatari (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Far Country (A.Mann)\r\nTwenty Four Eyes (Kinoshita)\r\n\r\n1955 Pather Panchali (S.Ray)*\r\nTales of the Taira Clan (Mizoguchi)*\r\nNight of the Hunter (Laughton)*\r\nOrdet (Dreyer)\r\nKiss me Deadly (Aldrich)\r\nLola Montes (Ophuls)\r\nEast of Eden (Kazan)\r\nYang Kwei Fei (Mizoguchi)\r\nSmiles of a Summer Night (Bergman)\r\n\r\n1956 The Searchers (Ford)*\r\nA Man Escaped (Bresson)\r\nAparajito (S.Ray)\r\nEarly Spring (Ozu)\r\nThe Court Jester (Panama, Frank)\r\nStreet of Shame (Mizoguchi)\r\nThe Killing (Kubrick)\r\nThe Burmese Harp (Ichikawa)\r\nGiant (Stevens)\r\n\r\n1957 Funny Face (Donen)\r\nTwelve Angry Men (Lumet)\r\nPaths of Glory (Kubrick)\r\nThrone of Blood (Kurosawa)\r\nThe Seventh Seal (Bergman)\r\nTokyo Twilight (Ozu)\r\n\r\n1958 Vertigo (Hitchcock)*\r\nHidden Fortress (Kurosawa)\r\nTouch of Evil (Welles)\r\nThe Music Room (S.Ray)\r\nThe Magician (Bergman)\r\nNazarin (Bunuel)\r\n\r\n1959 North by Northwest (Hitchcock)*\r\nSome Like it Hot (Wilder)*\r\nHiroshima mon Amour (Resnais)\r\nThe World of Apu (S.Ray)\r\nBallad of a Soldier (Chukhrai)\r\nPaper Flowers (Dutt)\r\nLes 400 Coups (Truffaut)','b04824b9ecdd88b4ada7dd67a3fa64b1',0,'','SL1soWv8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6997,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152122640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Thought to add some comments on my list, since the others all posted so many films. \r\nI have seen some 300 films from the 50s, but if you look at my list , it\'s very limited. I\'m not trying to be a snob, but sadly I didn\'t see many masterpieces in that period.. \r\nThere are very good films I enjoyed much and though I value their importance they just didn\'t make it. \r\n\r\nSome examples would be:\r\nOrphe (Cocteau)\r\nUn chant d\'amour (Genet)\r\nAn American in Paris (Minelli)\r\nA Streetcar named Desire (Kazan)\r\nSingin in the Rain (Donen, Kelly)\r\nFrom Here to Eternity (Fred Zinnemann)\r\nRoman Holiday (Wyler)\r\nSeven Samurai (Kurosawa)\r\nRear Window (Hitchcock)\r\nOrdet (Dreyer)\r\nKiller\'s Kiss (Kubrick)\r\nTo catch a thief (Hitchcock)\r\nThe Searchers (Ford)\r\nForbidden Planet (Fred Wilcox)\r\nThe Killing (Kubrick)\r\nKing Creole (Curtiz)\r\nHiroshima mon Amour (Resnais)\r\nGhost Story of Yotsuja (Nakagawa)\r\nThe Bridge (Bernhard Wicki)\r\nFloating Weeds (Ozu)\r\n\r\nI didn\'t list them as possible additions, because my memory of them is still very intact. Of course they could still make it on the list with another viewing, but they will have more chances in the farther future, when my taste in films will have changed a bit more.','917e883d0b7dee8fb27b6456b737438e',0,'','2W0uDwv6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6998,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152485340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Two films from your list that won\'t make it on are Story of a Prostitute and Tokyo Drifter, because they both came out in the 60s. I did enjoy Tokyo Drifter and it served as a rather positive introduction to Suzuki\'s work for me. Story of a Prostitute on the other hand I just found to be more of the same in terms of Suzuki, and coming after Gates of Flesh, it was inevitably disappointing.','55c09092af91f69f371138e708414125',0,'','jgHYRSh1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(6999,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152555360,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Thanks for the reminder!\r\nSomehow Suzuki always keeps slipping into the 50s with me... \r\n\r\nStory of a prostitue is actually my 2nd favorite film by Suzuki, and for me a clear development from Tokyo Drifter or Gates of Flesh (which I find more similar) towards his best I\'ve seen, Branded to Kill.','fa2b26ddf4cba1d7b70e67181ec5482c',0,'','uPTGJzhA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7000,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152555600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 50s','I still think Gates of Flesh is his best (but that\'s for the inevitable 60s thread). Luckily however I have 4 more Suzuki films still in plastic waiting for me to watch them, including Underworld Beauty which actually is from the 50s (1958 to be exact).','411f66084220082ebce750b188b5fe5d',0,'','HsnWNkKw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7001,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152734940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Funny, as I think I like \"Gates of Flesh\" the least from the handful I\'ve seen. Artwork and music are impressive, though. Ah, no that was \"Youth of the beast\" (great title by the way) which had nevertheless two or three terriffic moments...\r\nWhere did you get these other Suzuki films (is he getting better known in the US). So far I thought the french had most of his stuff.','a120e1498e0a7531130c5e6b8bbb3ee8',0,'','rK6SRLs4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7002,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152739620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Home Vision has released several of his films (including Underworld Beauty, Kanto Wanderer, and A Tattooed Life), and Criterion (which is the same basic company as Home Vision) released six so far. Kino Video recently put out three of his later films as a trilogy. I\'m not quite sure why the upsurge in his films here in the US, but it is making things a lot easier considering I think only 2 of his films were ever released on VHS.','d02a851b6b63c8030e4bb9ea106ca4db',0,'','UCupRavP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7003,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1154943120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Add to my list Tokyo Twilight, one of Ozu\'s great masterpieces and best film of 1957.','f387fb39bdfa73a1f94b6ba5080cf5c2',0,'','mcgjtq6J',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7004,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155002760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'collectedsoul','Re: Best Films of the 50s','I\'ve seen Night and the City...liked watching it but the morbidness was a little trying at times.','0d51e401575feb736c877184112c2e94',0,'','iLoqKVtR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7005,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155003000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'collectedsoul','Re: Best Films of the 50s','wanted some reactions on cassavettes\' shadows...i really disliked the film, seemed like an absolutely mindless venture on film. i have heard it is important as one of the first independent films from america...but what about the film itself do you like?','975107f52380e396631f90b662b93e3d',0,'','qKBwdFlp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7006,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1192142820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Can\'t knock Rio Bravo. If you get a chance A, watch Hawks much less appreciated El Dorado, very similar but equally rewarding.','1de993aa5b78a8b4bf8a55cf2696ccf1',0,'','pkWSowjF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7007,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1192300320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 50s','Yes, I had a lot of fun watching it. I guess I just love the casual way Hawks deals with his characters. And he always cares for all of them. Same as in his other films I\'ve seen. I\'ll keep a look out for El Dorado and anything else by Hawks.','289f7ea0e9fbf029a7835eb3d6442c4b',0,'','ejCGPngo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7008,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1192321980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 50s','I\'m running low on available Hawks films to see, but have found quite a great deal of joy in all of them. The only film of his I didn\'t like was Scarface, and after a recent re-watch that opinion has been completely reversed.','659af73bc88244f9706f3bca050452fa',0,'','dB38cQC5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7009,1518,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196924160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 50s','\"And after some consideration I also decided to include Mikio Naruse\'s \"Floating Clouds\" (1955). Boy, this has really grown on me since I\'ve seen it the first time.\"\r\n\r\nGlad to hear that. It\'s one of the best Naruse films I\'ve so far, and is now available on subtitled DVD!','80742ac3fe2115b40f26559d53ed1d23',0,'','qTd3yoDl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7010,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173736440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Best Films of the 80s','Call it boredom, but I felt like digging into another decade, and the list subforum has not gotten a great deal of attention lately. So here\'s the decade myself, and several other members were born in, and I think it will offer a unique perspective on how we grew up with certain films. \r\n\r\n1980 \r\nOrdinary People (US - Robert Redford) \r\nBerlin Alexanderplatz (West Germany/Italy - Rainer Werner Fassbinder) \r\nRaging Bull (US - Martin Scorsese) \r\nThe Shining (US/UK - Stanley Kubrick) \r\nAirplane (US - Jim Abraham/David Zucker/Jerry Zucker) \r\nThe Empire Strikes Back (US - Irvin Kirshner) \r\nThe Blues Brothers (US - John Landis) \r\n\r\n1981 \r\nReds (US - Warren Beatty) \r\nDas Boot (West Germany - Wolfgang Petersen) \r\nGallipoli (Australia - Peter Weir) \r\nEscape From New York (US - John Carpenter) \r\n\r\n1982 \r\nThe Executioner\'s Song (US - Lawrence Schiller) \r\nFanny and Alexander (Sweden - Ingmar Bergman) \r\nBlade Runner (US - Ridley Scott) \r\nPink Floyd The Wall (US/UK - Alan Parker) \r\nVideodrome (Canada - David Cronenberg) \r\nFast Times at Ridgemont High (US - Amy Heckerling) \r\nDiner (US - Barry Levinson) \r\nSophie\'s Choice (US - Alan J. Pakula) \r\nOne From the Heart (US - Francis Ford Coppola) \r\nKoyaanisqatsi (US - Godfrey Reggio) \r\n\r\n1983 \r\nThe Right Stuff (US - Phillip Kauffman) \r\nSans Soleil (France - Chris Marker) \r\nReturn of the Jedi (US - Richard Marquand) \r\nA Christmas Story (Canada - Bob Clark) \r\nTrading Places (US - John Landis) \r\nDelirious (US - Bruce Gowers) \r\nMy Brother\'s Wedding (US - Charles Burnett) \r\n\r\n1984 \r\nThe Times of Harvey Milk (US - Robert Epstein) \r\nThe Terminator (US - James Cameron) \r\nStop Making Sense (US - Jonathan Demme) \r\nThis is Spinal Tap (US - Rob Reiner) \r\nOnce Upon a Time in America (US/Italy - Sergio Leone) \r\n\r\n1985 \r\nBrazil (US - Terry Gilliam) \r\nThe Purple Rose of Cairo (US - Woody Allen) \r\nShoah (France/Switzerland - Claude Lanzmann) \r\nClue (US - Jonathan Lynn) \r\nRan (Japan/France - Akira Kurosawa) \r\nThe Breakfast Club (US - John Hughes) \r\nBoycott (Iran - Mohsehn Makhmalbaf) \r\nPee-Wees Big Adventure (US - Tim Burton) \r\nCome and See (USSR - Elem Klimov) \r\n\r\n1986 \r\nPlatoon (US - Oliver Stone) \r\nBig Trouble in Little China (US - John Carpenter) \r\nThe Singing Detective (UK - Jon Amiel) \r\nFerris Buellers Day Off (US - John Hughes) \r\nA Room With a View (UK - James Ivory) \r\nSalvador (US - Oliver Stone) \r\nBlue Velvet (US - David Lynch) \r\nThe Fly (US/Canada - David Cronenberg) \r\n\r\n1987 \r\nCobra Verde (West Germany - Werner Herzog) \r\nAkira (Japan - Katsuhiro Otomo) \r\nRaising Arizona (US - Joel and Ethan Coen) \r\nPrincess Bride (US - Rob Reiner) \r\nPredator (US - John McTiernan) \r\nThe Last Emperor (US/China/Italy - Bernardo Bertolucci) \r\nFull Metal Jacket (US/UK - Stanley Kubrick) \r\nSpaceballs (US - Mel Brooks) \r\nRaw (US - Robert Townsend) \r\nWings of Desire (West Germany/France - Wim Wenders) \r\nHollywood Shuffle (US - Robert Townsend) \r\nCamp de Thiaroye (Senegal/Tunisia/Algeria - Ousmane Sembene/Thiermo Faty Sow) \r\n\r\n1988 \r\nThe Last Temptation of Christ (US - Martin Scorsese) \r\nDrowning by Numbers (Netherlands - Peter Greenaway) \r\nComing to America (US - John Landis) \r\nIm Gonna Git You Sucka (US - Keenan Ivory Wayans) \r\nBull Durham (US - Ron Shelton) \r\nWho Framed Roger Rabbit? (US - Robert Zemeckis) \r\nThe Decalogue (Poland - Krzysztof Kieslowski) \r\nDie Hard (US - John McTiernan) \r\nRain Man (US - Barry Levinson) \r\nDead Ringers (Canada - David Cronenberg) \r\nLandscape in the Mist (Greece/West Germany - Theo Angeloupoulos) \r\nA Fish Called Wanda (UK - Charles Crichton) \r\n\r\n1989 \r\nBorn on the Fourth of July (US - Oliver Stone) \r\nThe Cyclist (Iran - Mohsen Makhmalbaf) \r\nTango and Cash (US - Andrei Konchalovsky) \r\nDo the Right Thing (US - Spike Lee) \r\nHeathers (US - Michael Lehmann) \r\nDrugstore Cowboy (US - Gus Van Sant) \r\nMajor League (US - David S. Ward) \r\nThe Little Mermaid (US - Ron Clements) \r\nWhen Harry Met Sally (US - Rob Reiner) \r\n\r\nEdit for A Fish Called Wanda','83c7827598c29967b0846da6ead0b576',0,'','vDXyBG5i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7011,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173774180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I\'m also starting off with a short list of films. I\'ll add the proper info later.\r\n\r\nnos amours\r\nL\'Argent \r\n\r\nBerlin Alexanderplatz\r\nBird\r\nBlack Rain\r\nBlue Velvet \r\nBorn on the Fourth of July\r\n\r\nA City of Sadness\r\nCome and See\r\n\r\nDays of Eclipse \r\nThe Dead\r\nThe Decalogue\r\nDo The Right Thing\r\n\r\nThe Elephant Man\r\nL\'Enfant secret\r\n\r\nFast Times at Ridgemont High\r\n\r\nHail Mary\r\n\r\nLandscape in the Mist \r\nLove Streams\r\n\r\nParis, Texas\r\nPixote \r\nPlatoon\r\nLe Pont du Nord\r\n\r\nRaging Bull \r\nReds\r\n\r\nThe Sacrifice\r\nSalvador \r\nSans Soleil\r\nsex, lies, and videotape\r\nShoah\r\nStranger Than Paradise\r\nA Summer at Grandpa\'s \r\nEl Sur\r\n\r\nA Time to Live and a Time to Die\r\n\r\nUnder the Sun of Satan','68ab1d55d639a561e23251a19e9901dc',0,'','xtNVSkKb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7012,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173774540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Looking at your list I saw a few films that I have no idea why they weren\'t on my list. I pulled these from my catalogue on my computer, and was a little shocked to find Wings of Desire and Come and See weren\'t even listed. Both A Nos Amours and Loulou are strong contenders, and I might even add them.\r\n\r\nWhen did you get a chance to see Berlin Alexanderplatz?','f1a8bed924054526719fcaa665d978fe',0,'','U8w0tBVq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7013,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173776700,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Yeah, the Pialat films are a must. I\'ll probably add Loulou after watching it again. Same for the Wenders. I finally saw Berlin in its entirety a few months ago on DVD-Recordable.\r\n\r\nOf course, after mentioning it in another thread just a few minutes ago, I forgot to list Damnation. I guess it\'ll have to wait until my next update.','f92a00651bc437a058f139f0c01a92de',0,'','nrtKMz25',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7014,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173776820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I don\'t really have an excuse for not having Paris, Texas on my list. I was a little surprised to see Fast Times at Ridgemont High on your list, which is probably the least pretentious Cameron Crowe ever was as a screenwriter.','3a64c58504a19bca4968b4272277c9ef',0,'','ugEMCymj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7015,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173777180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I had no idea that Crowe was involved with that one. Needless to say, I haven\'t followed his career very closely. I know Amy Heckerling directed it, whose Clueless is another film I have a soft spot for. She hasn\'t done much else of note.','6a272292f744435ff13aea88ff0462e8',0,'','CFZxBepm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7016,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1173778560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Agreed, Crowe wrote the screenplay for Fast Times. Clueless is a good time as well.','eb5427f54a9656fe74b60eb7aedf1dd8',0,'','b536aDF1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7017,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1174098720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Im Gonna Git You Sucka\r\nTango and Cash\r\n\r\nShould these be filed under personal choices, or do you really believe that they belong with the very best of the decade?','739ec73e13787b407f4e4c5165ea70fc',0,'','bKQx87Ep',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7018,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1174101240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','My brother is a little more extreme. He considers Tango and Cash right next to Citizen Kane and Aguirre. I\'ve seen I\'m Gonna Git You Sucka at least 30 times, and hey people thought it was crazy to praise Vertigo. And yes I do think both of these films are better than Vertigo.','82a5751cf2184dff9885a2133b4ac15d',0,'','MRNCwZdz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7019,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1174160340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I haven\'t seen 45 films from wpqx\'s list and about two-thirds of arsaib\'s. ANd here I thought I knew quite a lot of films from the 80s... \r\nAs much as I enjoy this, I currently don\'t have the time to post my own list (hell, I should be finishing my reviews instead of posting here ) but I\'m sure you\'ll be in for some surprises too. My first Pialat will definitely be on it','62e43745ab5a3bfd00af8f4728f1e244',0,'','pYsmuyvh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7020,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177731660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Ok, here\'s finally my own 80s list. I guess I haven\'t seen nearly as much as all of the others, but it\'s all about quality. These films will (hopefully) remain on the list as new ones will be added. \"> \r\n\r\n\r\n1980 \r\nHeaven\'s Gate (Michael Cimino / USA) \r\nKagemusha (Akira Kurosawa / Japan, USA) \r\nLoulou (Maurice Pialat / France) \r\nPermanent Vacation (Jim Jarmusch / USA) \r\nThe Big Red One [reconstructed version] (Samuel Fuller / USA) \r\nThe Elephant Man (David Lynch / USA) \r\nThe Shining (Stanley Kubrick / UK) \r\n\r\n1981 \r\nDiva (Jean-Jacques Beineix / France) \r\nEyewitness (Peter Yates / USA) \r\nMad Max 2 (George Miller / Australia) \r\nPennies from Heaven (Herbert Ross / USA) \r\nPossession (Andrzej Zulawski / France, West Germany) \r\nTarzan, the Ape Man (John Derek / USA) \r\n\r\n1982 \r\nBakuretsu toshi Burst City (Sogo Ishii / Japan) \r\nBlade Runner (Ridley Scott / USA) \r\nConan the Barbarian (John Milius / USA) \r\nDie Erben The Inheritors (Walter Bannert / Austria) \r\nMoonlighting (Jerzy Skolimowski / UK) \r\nMoznosti dialogu Dimensions of Dialogue (Jan Svankmajer / Czechoslovakia) \r\nSans soleil Sunless (Chris Marker / France) \r\nVictor/Victoria (Blake Edwards / USA, UK) \r\n\r\n1983 \r\nDer Aufenthalt The Turning Point (Frank Beyer / East Germany) \r\nKoyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio / USA) \r\nLa lune dans le caniveau The Moon in the Gutter (Jean-Jacques Beineix / France, Italy) \r\nMortelle randonne Deadly run (Claude Miller / France) \r\nScarface (Brian De Palma / USA) \r\nStranger than Paradise (Jim Jarmusch / USA) \r\nThe Hunger (Tony Scott / USA) \r\nWu lang ba gua gun Eight Diagram Pole Fighter (Chia-Liang Liu / Hong Kong) \r\n\r\n1984 \r\nKlassenverhältnisse Class Relations (Daniele Huillet, Jean-Marie Straub / West Germany, France) \r\nL\' amour à mort Love Unto Death (Alain Resnais / France) \r\nLa pirate The Pirate (Jacques Doillon / France) \r\nParis, Texas (Wim Wenders / West Germany, France) \r\nThe Terminator (James Cameron / USA) \r\n\r\n1985 \r\nBack to the Future (Robert Zemeckis / USA) \r\nLa vie de famille Family Life (Jacques Doillon / France) \r\nOtac na sluzbenom putu When father was away on business (Emir Kusturica / Yugoslavia) \r\nQingmei Zhuma Taipei Story (Edward Yang / Taiwan) \r\nRan (Akira Kurosawa / Japan, France) \r\nSans toit ni loi Vagabond (Agnès Varda / France, UK) \r\nTenshi no tamago Angel\'s Egg (Mamoru Oshii / Japan) \r\nZina (Ken McMullen / UK) \r\n\r\n1986 \r\nBlue Velvet (David Lynch / USA) \r\nFerris Bueller\'s Day Off (John Hughes / USA) \r\nMauvais sang Bad Blood (Leos Carax / France) \r\nOffret The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky / Sweden, UK, France) \r\nRosa Luxemburg (Margarethe von Trotta / West Germany, Czechoslovakia) \r\n\r\n1987 \r\nAkira (Katsuhiro Otomo / Japan) \r\nFrantic (Roman Polanski / France, USA) \r\nKhane-ye doust kodjast? Where is my friends house? (Abbas Kiarostami / Iran) \r\nPredator (John McTiernan / USA) \r\nSign \'o\' the Times (Prince, Albert Magnoli / USA) \r\nThe Princess Bride (Rob Reiner / USA) \r\n\r\n1988 \r\nFeet of Song (Erica Russell / UK) \r\nHotaru no haka Grave of the Fireflies (Isao Takahata / Japan) \r\nLes ministéres de l\'art (Philippe Garrel / France) \r\nThe Accidental Tourist (Lawrence Kasdan / USA) \r\nThe Unbearable Lightness of Being (Philip Kaufman / USA) \r\nTonari no Totoro My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki / Japan) \r\nWong gok ka moon As Tears Go By (Wong Kar Wai / Hong Kong) \r\n\r\n1989 \r\nArousi-ye Khouban Marriage of the Blessed (Mohsen Makhmalbaf / Iran) \r\nBack to the Future Part II (Robert Zemeckis / USA) \r\nBatman (Tim Burton / USA) \r\nL\'enfant de l\'hiver Winter\'s Child (Olivier Assayas / France) \r\nMajo no takkyûbin Kiki\'s Delivery Service (Hayao Miyazaki / Japan) \r\nMonsieur Hire M. Hire (Patrice Leconte / France) \r\nSale comme un ange Dirty Like an Angel (Catherine Breillat / France) \r\nThe Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (Peter Greenaway / UK, France, Netherlands) \r\n\r\n\r\nby country: \r\n\r\nUSA: 25 \r\nFrance: 16 \r\nJapan: 8 \r\nUK: 5 \r\nWest Germany: 3 \r\nHong Kong: 2 \r\nIran: 2 \r\nAustralia: 1 \r\nAustria: 1 \r\nCzechoslovakia: 1 \r\nEast Germany: 1 \r\nSweden: 1 \r\nTaiwan: 1 \r\nYugoslavia: 1 \r\n__________________ \r\n\r\nTotal: 68 \r\n\r\n* I\'ve recently completely rediscovered Wong Kar Wai\'s debut feature \"As Tears Go By\" (1988). What a film!!! I\'m still overwhelmed. The same can be said about the impact of the Austrian Film \"The Inheritors\" (1982) which I only saw by chance at the cinema. What a discovery!!','a2debe9337d1c8d980b0873901eecdd4',0,'','zcnhgBmt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7021,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177731780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 80s','These are films I need to see again, as they could make it on the \"best\" list. \r\n\r\nsome possible contenders: \r\n\r\nRaging Bull (Martin Scorsese / USA / 1980) \r\n\r\nGallipoli (Peter Weir / Australia / 1981) \r\nReds (Warren Beatty / USA / 1981) \r\nSjecas li se, Dolly Bell Do You Remember Dolly Bell? (Yugoslavia / Emir Kusturica / 1981) \r\n\r\nThe Draughtsman\'s Contract (Peter Greenaway / UK / 1982) \r\nVincent (Tim Burton / USA / 1982) \r\n\r\nL\'argent Money (Robert Bresson / France, Switzerland / 1983) \r\nThe King of Comedy (Martin Scosese / USA / 1983) \r\n\r\nFrankenweenie (Tim Burton / USA / 1984) \r\nNineteen Eighty-Four (Michael Radford / UK / 1984) \r\nOnce Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone / USA, Italy / 1984) \r\n\r\nWitness (Peter Weir / USA / 1985) \r\n\r\nDao ma zei The Horse Thief (Zhuangzhuang Tian / China / 1986) \r\nLe rayon vert The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer / France / 1986) \r\nO Melissokomos The Beekeeper (Theodoros Angelopoulos / Greece, France, Italy / 1986) \r\n\r\nBicycleran The Cyclist (Mohsen Makhmalbaf / Iran / 1987) \r\n\r\nChocolat (Claire Denis / France, West Germany, Cameroon / 1988) \r\nComing to America (John Landis / USA / 1988) \r\nDom za veanje Time of the Gypsies (Emir Kusturica / Yugoslavia, UK, Italy / 1988) \r\nDrowning by Numbers (Peter Greenaway / UK, Netherlands / 1988) \r\nTetsuo The Ironman (Shinya Tsukamoto / Japan / 1988) \r\nThe Last Temptation of Christ (Martin Scorsese / USA / 1988) \r\n\r\nThe Little Mermaid (Ron Clements / USA / 1989)','a88cb6dee75a4581ceae5643229cd5ad',0,'','GsniVK8x',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7022,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177738560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Nice list, A. I\'ve seen most of the foreign language films you\'ve mentioned and I\'m having a hard time coming up with one that I really dislike. Do need to catch up with a few of the English language ones (e.g. Ferris Buellers Day Off, Eyewitness, The Hunger).','d69f1f0a3773cc961fbd23d902feb619',0,'','iolxcZDe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7023,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177746300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Thanks for the kind words. I\'ve been in a bit of a worry lately, as almost every former favorite of mine I rewatch tends to disappoint me. So I\'d say I\'lll probably have to reconsider some films on this list too (mainly the American ones, I think).\r\nAll of the ten films I\'ve seen from your list either are on mine or could make it with another rewatch, btw. And it\'s really been a looong time since I\'ve seen Platoon. \r\nI should (re)watch a series of films by Mr. Stone anyways, as my taste has evolved and matured (or so I\'d like to believe ). The last time I saw JFK for example I was very disappointed to find out that what I previously believed to be a mastepiece was merely a good film. At the moment I like U-Turn best, though this doesn\'t seem to mean much anymore...','28b9dd36dd443599deee17016383e453',0,'','ew15TGSM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7024,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177760880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I probably prefer your \"runner\'s up\" list to the actually one A. \r\n\r\nOh and arsaib, not seeing Wayne\'s World is one thing, but Ferris Bueller? I\'d like to say its a Chicago thing, but man I\'ve probably seen that 50 times.','5fc75cc9129779038b5b0b057d773a92',0,'','nEFsd025',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7025,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177817460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','It\'s now on the ever-growing list of films to see. Wayne\'s World, however, is inching closer to the top. Have you ever written anything about it?','3affde9be9e9edcf17cef0ed0f672246',0,'','ctNgaWmV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7026,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177827960,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','No, I just might however write a paper on Beuller.','5883c83ba8888c07b0d96b461aecd4b6',0,'','eLxmBPzy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7027,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185513420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','arsaib, where did you see Love Streams? I\'ve been holding out patiently because the one and only VHS copy I can find is apparently in horrible condition.','19ef2b87260167f9d889f8590c35c2c4',0,'','wJsL5gjo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7028,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185516420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I\'ve seen it both theatrically and on DVD. The French standalone DVD came out back in 2004; there\'s also a 2-disc edition with A Child Is Waiting (I think).','d9293c81533899fa2b0a988ca955c27c',0,'','WF4eERpL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7029,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185526440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Well still unavailable to me, here\'s hoping for another Criterion set.','17c973c97a9ee1c88561521250d5c02c',0,'','PFM3ZYX4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7030,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185587880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','What\'s the running time on the vhs?','5ed703805f94b0dc1803407c966d77cd',0,'','0dvea78x',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7031,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185590340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Hell if I know, never rented it. I think the VHS came out in like 1985 so its a little ancient.','73694f8e0d1a9e0bb139961cf6b8522a',0,'','AZVCF9wv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7032,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185601860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','At Amazon, where the vhs is OOP, the MGM/UA release is listed at 122 mins. That\'s about 20 mins short of the prints I\'ve seen.','7aa5c083a458490d2b8a8d14248fe20f',0,'','Q3UJW86R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7033,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185602820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','That complicates things, makes me even that much more anxious to see a DVD release.','49964ee0e7dec2f576c037730d78b1fb',0,'','dbqWFCLH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7034,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185772020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I\'d certainly hold off a bit longer for a proper release, or badger Facets to acquire the French DVD.','df1e970aa59d660c443672ec454b8e9a',0,'','ZsH35AMh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7035,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185781560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I might drop that subtle hint, they are aware how bad their print is, but convincing them to purchase import DVD\'s is like convincing a Cubs fan to be realistic.','eebc75f4e4c2500741a777eb869815e3',0,'','mkA8vTCh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7036,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187341260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','arsaib is the El Sur on your list the one directed by Carlos Saura, because that film was released in 1992.','a557907657f36f915d7a281691ba920f',0,'','JW5R9Qo3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7037,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187345340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','No, Erice (1983). Don\'t tell me you haven\'t seen it. This reminds me though that I gotta fill in the rest of the info.','3ad6b8c1bf10107291fb5d58b33befd9',0,'','9NqT1Lt5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7038,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187348400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I heard of Erice\'s film under the title The South, so that might explain the mix up. Either way I haven\'t seen either version, although it has been on my to watch list for several years now (along with several thousand other movies). \r\n\r\nand yes years and directors would help, don\'t have to get all fancy with countries, but I\'ll leave you to your own discretion.\r\n\r\nbtw Where the hell did you get to see Le Pont du Nord? They didn\'t even show that at the Rivette retro here in Chicago.','33b95ed0fa52aa73e464eeae2558c35c',0,'','706B8rXT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7039,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187394720,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Initially on video, then most recently at the Rivette retro in Toronto.','b3d13c9184c351b4f016ff3ebccb2ce9',0,'','xbopGhWk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7040,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187395740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I feel cheated.','ced500f673dbddab7044e50f67e2e7a9',0,'','jfyFNwaW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7041,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187481300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','People have travelled across continents for Out 1, so If I were you I wouldn\'t feel too bad.','1f345d66f8af5d93fc467921fd2779bb',0,'','yAN6Xphg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7042,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187483460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','True, I just remember seeing the list of Rivette films for the retro and simultaneously rejoicing that Out 1 was playing, and then double and triple checking the list to see if Le Pont du Nord was on there. My point was that I really was hoping for a complete showing. Now my next question is where did you see it on video?','1f800148db5212d61090c3ee927a3a0c',0,'','L0vSfVaQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7043,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187496420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the 80s','It was from an old, beat-up French copy. No subs and is probably OOP (if it was official).','28d56efa52bc6dff5176e30fdb9678c0',0,'','GqDJHLmi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7044,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187496600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Well subtitling is always a problem with Rivette films. He likes to have a bunch of people talk over each other so no matter what you\'re usually missing some of the dialog. I doubt I can find that copy, but I\'ll see.','6a26d2a1557db3eff706766150632aa4',0,'','UaMGSD3z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7045,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203739080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I\'m still trying to get a hold of Taipei Story, and really any Yang films, I\'ve only seen two and both were masterpieces. Glad I did finally get around to seeing Class Relations, even if it was in less than optimum conditions.','f750c774ce8c48d1f12d69298fb04afb',0,'','SjtbGmh3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7046,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203743100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the 80s','Which two Yangs did you see? I have a really bad VCD of Yang\'s \"Confucian Confusion\" (1997) still unwatched at home. Taipei Story was just a lucky coincidence at last years Vienna film festival (one of many ). And how did you finally see Straub & Huillet\'s masterpiece? You lucky man. I wish I\'d have the opportunity to watch it again for the first time...','7347f1a042efe013ae03934b1fc943f8',0,'','ilVNju8W',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7047,1519,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1203752520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the 80s','I\'ve seen Brighter Summer Day and Yi-Yi from Yang. I got Class Relations from a DVD-r which looked like a transfer of a 16mm print. The quality was terrible, but with a film that rare, I\'ll take it anyway I can. The same guy had two more films from them which were probably in similar transfers, but since I was unfamiliar with them I opted to pass for now. I wish there would just be a full retro, I still don\'t even think New Yorker released Moses and Aaron which has been coming soon for the last year. I know New Yorker owns most of the rights to their films (at least in the US) and the print I saw of Class Relations had the New Yorker Films Release logo at the beginning. I\'m curious to read Kafka\'s Amerika because from what I\'m told it is a very literal adaptation, including the unfinished ending.','b56df161f7440d9698d1a265adb42bea',0,'','d5RNq86W',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7048,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137075360,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Indian top 10','Hoping for plenty of interesting suggestions, here are mine (from quite small viewing pool):\r\n\r\n1.Apu trilogy (Ray, 1955-9)\r\n2.Pakeezah (Amrohi, 1971)\r\n3.Cloud-Capped Star (Ghatak, 1960)\r\n4.Charulata (Ray, 1964)\r\n5.Days and Nights in the Forest (Ray, 1969)\r\n6.Paper Flowers (Dutt, 1959)\r\n7.Mughal-e-Azam (Asif, 1960)\r\n8.Baiju Bawra (Bhatt, 1952)\r\n9.The Music Room (Ray, 1958) \r\n10.Awara (Kapoor, 1951)\r\n\r\nSo, Mother India didn\'t make it, though it\'s a long time ago i saw it. Pyaasa and Sholay (the dvd i found available is expensive) are top of my must-see list. Need to see some by Sen + Benegal, and pre-WW2 classics like Devdas and Sant Tukaram among many others. Not greatly impressed by any of the recent popular films i\'ve seen. Mira Nair came close to the 10. I may give Ghatak\'s A River Called Titash another chance; i loved the opening, but became increasingly bewildered and alienated. It may well be a great testing masterpiece, in what\'s certainly a very rich, unfairly neglected cinema tradition. So much still to explore!','53ae98bc60cd78cb53feaea42e0b9ddf',0,'','VxSqgUvm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7049,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137081300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','my top ten in no particular order:\r\n\r\n1. E-Flat (Ghatak)\r\n2. The Music Room (Ray)\r\n3. Mr Shome (Mrinal Sen)\r\n4. Om Dar-b-Dar (Kamal Swaroop)\r\n5. Our Daily Bread (Mani Kaul)\r\n6. Hot winds (M. S. Sathyu)\r\n7. 36 Chowringhee Lane (Aparna Sen...everything else she made is bogus!)\r\n8. Monologue (Adoor Gopalakrishnan)\r\n9. Seventh Horse of the Sun (Shyam Benegal)\r\n10. Pyasa (Guru Dutt)\r\n\r\nOne film that almost made it to the list is \"The Adventures of Goopy and Bagha\", a fantasy by Ray. Taken from a story by Ray\'s grandfather, this is Ray at his best in all departments, not the least being music. The subtitles do not do justice, but go ahead and see this anyway!\r\nOther strong recommendations are: \"Who Pays the Piper\" (Kundan Shah), \"Pestonjee\" (Vijaya Mehta), \"Time Addiction\" (Amitabh Chakraborthi), \"The Chess Players\" (Ray), \"Titas, the Name of a River\" (Ghatak). There are many many more actually!','ad504dc70c39dc722b1a9b45205599e7',0,'','ldyiVAjz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7050,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137083280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Wow, plenty of unexpected choices (unexpected by a non-expert, that is). Several haven\'t appeared in lists by Indian critics i\'ve seen over the years in polls like Sight + Sound. I\'ll look some up in my excellent Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema (Rayadhyaksha,Willemen).','6dedefb3fd28a4ff930e523bbe617f22',0,'','w0QebfRX',1,0,'',0,0,0);
INSERT INTO `phpbb_posts` VALUES (7051,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137123540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','I have seen very few indian films, but these would be the 10 best:\r\n\r\n1. Uttara (Buddhadev Dasgupta)\r\n2. Aparajito (Satyajit Ray)\r\n3. Charachar (Buddhadev Dasgupta)\r\n4. Sant Tukaram (Vishnupant Govind Damle, Sheikh Fattelal)\r\n5. Pather Panchali (Satyajit Ray)\r\n6. Subarnarekha (Ritwik Ghatak)\r\n7. Kaalpurush (Buddhadev Dasgupta)\r\n8. Piravi (Shaji Neelakantan Karun)\r\n9. Mahanagar (Satyajit Ray)\r\n10. Jukti, Takko Aar Gappo (Ritwik Ghatak)','761463f48cdf55b6981c4216a42ef534',0,'','e0RgJn9S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7052,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137125100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Like A I haven\'t seen a great many Indian films and the only ones we get on TV are the Bollywood films that last around 3 hours and are shown around 2.00am. I will check over my lists and try to do a top 10 if possible.\r\n\r\nA, what did you find so disgusting about Monsoon Wedding?\r\n\r\nYou should try Salaam Bombay.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','849d8a0491f22fa3917f067dad363dcd',0,'','PKBRJhrE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7053,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137126840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','The way the film dealt with the girl being molested by the \"uncle\". Besides that the film was totally India through the exotic glance of western Europe, not to mention bad dialogue, acting, directing - the same as \"Kama Sutra\".\r\nBut I don\'t remember much for a fair critique anymore, have successfully suppressed most of it.','b7049f6aa0e61cd3745b7ebcc7e00d39',0,'','EjDZVch3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7054,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137133620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','I\'ll admit i was disappointed with Monsoon Wedding, having expected more from a Venice winner. I thought the comic elements in the first half too broad, with some apparent caricatures rather than characters, but the more serious second half was relatively convincing. I did prefer Salaam Bombay, the likeable, colourful and involving film that made her name in the West, though i think she\'d done documentaries before that.\r\n\r\nA: where did you get to see Sant Tukaram and the 2 by Ghatak? I\'d be very interested if they were on dvd.','389bc5abccc8593050b277cb0aa5b843',0,'','JrgvN3D1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7055,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137148380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@ A\r\n\r\nHave you put \"Aparajito\" above \"Pather Panchali\" in terms of rating? If you have, i agree \r\n\r\n\'Monsoon Wedding\" is not only bad cinema, it is an unacknowledged lift from a great film very close to my heart - Vinterberg\'s \"Festen\" - the incest plot, the servant quarters subplot, the hand-held camera et al. Probably it is so unrecognisable because of the mess she makes of it! I have no problems with lifts (bollywood is always doing that), but one wonders what she was trying to make of it!\r\n\r\na bit of useful info for Ghatak fans. i work for a grantmaking organisation in the arts, and we\'ve just made a grant to the Ghatak Memorial Trust for the restoration of the negative and making of fresh positives of Ghatak\'s first film, \"The Citizen\" and seven of his short films. Hopefully, those films will travel. Interestingly, \"The Citizen\" would have pioneered alternative Indian cinema (1952-53), had it not run into release problems. Instead, \"Pather Panchali\" became the first film of its kind, and \"The Citizen\" had a posthumous release in 1977!\r\n\r\nM','c81819794fbc094c83567173750f0ec6',0,'','SNFg5T9o',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7056,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137160380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Monsoon Wedding- yeah, Festen sprang to my mind too, so the \"lift\" can\'t have been very well hidden. Critics should certainly have picked up on the similarity. I\'m still at a loss as to why it received so many rave reviews and the Golden Lion; i\'d assumed before seeing the film she must have made grand progress since Salaam Bombay (which was a work of promise rather than refinement).\r\n\r\nI noticed at imdb that the highest rated Indian film is Pushpak, which surprised me as i knew nothing about it. What\'s your opinion, Madhuban?','1cd95d32e7ed6085f3b179b8b6246a09',0,'','ebnHdr93',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7057,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137163920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','I have a some recommendations from vintage bollywood. As an aside, i\'m having genuine fun finding the english titles for the indian films. if i were given a list with those and asked if i\'d seen any, i\'d have said no \r\n\r\nHere they are:\r\n\r\nTowards the Light (1944), Two Acres of Land (1953), Madhumati (195 & Bandini (1963) - Bimal Roy\r\n\r\nAndaz (Beau Monde/A Matter of Style) 1949 - Mehboob Khan\r\n\r\nThe Division (1953) - Kamal Amrohi\r\n\r\nTwo Eyes, Twelve Hands 91957) - V. Shantaram\r\n\r\nMaster, Mistress and Slave (1962) - Abrar Alvi (Guru Dutt plays the master)\r\n\r\nFire (194 & My Name Is Joker (1970) - Raj Kapoor (the second film is deeply flawed, but a pathbreaking one for bollywood, nevertheless)\r\n\r\nGuide (1965) - Vijay Anand\r\n\r\nThe Third Oath (1966), Experience (1971), Discovery (1973) - Basu Bhattacharya\r\n\r\nFlames (1975) - Ramesh Sippy (better known as \"Sholay\" worldwide, this is kitschy and over-the-top, but a milestone in Indian mainstream cinema)\r\n\r\nJust realised that i\'d forgotten to mention two lovely films in my \"also\" list following the top ten: \"What Makes Albert Pinto Angry?\" & \"Salim Langde Pe Mat Ro\" (can\'t find the English title) by Saeed Mirza.\r\n\r\nespecially @ john\r\nSeek out this film called \"Umrao Jaan\" by Muzaffar Ali. I think you\'ll love it.\r\n\r\nM','7a1b07bd6c0aef3007b91083127f5cf2',0,'','3XGFAKwM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7058,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137172320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks a lot for that. I\'ve only seen the first 3 of those. I\'m worried how i\'ll find the time to catch up with so much in Indian, Czech, Latin American + other neglected cinemas, what with all the great books i\'ve not read, the countries i want to visit, and i\'m nearly 45! Here\'s hoping life expectancy keeps increasing. One Kapoor hit i didn\'t like at all was Bobby. Nor over impressed with 90\'s hits like Kuch Kuch Hot Hai (though Rani Mukherjee- India has had some of the most beautiful actresses!- and its enthusiasm almost won me over) and Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge, nor Lagaan.','17de8c5440bed5a6a5ab852e4e568897',0,'','60PqQAkL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7059,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137174300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','john, i been thinking how i will ever catch up with the amount of cinema you guys have seen! every time i read a review here, i make a mental note. but where on earth am i going to see them, forget surviving long enough! the one i envy the most is wpqx. all of 21 and so much film viewing! \r\n\r\nperhaps, you should try some of the \"flops\". the ones you mention made crores at the box office. one director/producer (the ones he produces also has his stamp) to watch out for is Ramgopal Varma. Like Tarantino, he used to be a video parlour guy, never went to film school, and taught himself to make films by obsessively watching them. Primarily works in three genres - gangster films, fantasy and thriller/horror - with a few road movies to his credit as well. \"Shiva\", \"Satya\", \"Company\", \"Kaun\", \"Rangeela\" are strongly recommended if you live to be a hundred He is basically from Andhra Pradesh in south india and began his career in the regional Telugu film industry. \"Kshana Kshanam\" remains a personal favourite, though I watched it without subtitles and i have only a smattering of Telugu (Indians are compelled to be quadrilingual). So, this one is also recommended provided you find a subtitled copy and live to be 110','964be91cbedfbca9ab08985ef3f6286f',0,'','J1Mm4T7W',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7060,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137187500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Indian top 10','Well I must say I\'m honored to be envied. Ignorance alert though, Indian film is far from my strong point. In fact of the 11 Indian films I\'ve seen, all of them were directed by Satyajit Ray. They\'re not too easy to come across at least here in the states. Sure there are specialty Indian stores (not exactly on every street corner) but then you have to deal with not even being able to read the boxes, etc. Hopefully this thread here will get me some good ideas for the future. In the meantime here\'s a Ray top ten.\r\n\r\nDistant Thunder\r\nPather Panchali \r\nThe Middleman\r\nAparajito \r\nThe World of Apu\r\nMahanagar\r\nTwo Daughters\r\nCharulata \r\nDays and Nights in the Forest\r\nDevi','caac64660488384aeb30b8e064905f82',0,'','5GbMu2Ba',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7061,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137193620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Umrao jaan; i see it gets a very high average at imdb, and the first reviewer there compares the cinematography to Nykvist for Bergman, also says it was too quickly passed over by critics, lumped in with predictable commercial cinema. I\'ll certainly try to see it. From the Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema (so well laid out, films arranged by year), i see it\'s an opulent spectacular film about a young girl who\'s abducted + trained as a musical-dancing courtesan, becomes very popular, then has varying relationships with an aristocrat, childhood friend and a bandit! Film apparently proposes she\'s the only free woman in society.','8b067178c33368525f8078fec003b80e',0,'','GE2HoSUP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7062,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137196380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@ wpqx\r\n\r\nEleven from Ray\'s oeuvre is damn impressive! Just curious about what the 11th film was, since you list the ten best. Is it by chance, \"The Chessplayers\" or \"The Philosopher\'s Stone\"? If so, they would have been up there in my Ray top five. I am surprised to see \"Distant Thunder\" meet with such appreciation too. John mentioned it, and now you have it at the top. It is a hopelessly underrated film in India, especially in Bengal. Wonder why? Would be quite high on my list too. \"Devi\" and \"Three Daughters\", on the other hand would not be in my top ten. Let me give it a try too. This time i\'m treating each rank seriously. I am cheating a bit, as usual.\r\n\r\n1. The Music Room (by far the best)\r\n2. The Philosopher\'s Stone \r\n3. The Adventures of Goopy and Bagha (in an age when special effects was unheard of, he pulls off a technical wonder!)/Distant Thunder\r\n4. Aparajito\r\n5. The Chessplayers/Pather Panchali\r\n6. The Adversary\r\n7. The Lonely Wife\r\n8. The Middleman\r\n9. The World of Apu \r\n10. The Coward, The Saint\r\n\r\n@ john\r\n\r\n\"Umrao Jaan\" gives the \"kothha\" (literally, the house of the courtesan) genre of bollywood films (to which \"Pakeezah\" belongs) a different spin. It isn\'t untrue that courtesans in north india owned a lot of property and had prestige in society during a certain period. I do find the empowerment message a drag, but there is enough in the film to distract you from it.\r\n\r\nM','3a191a1c80ddbc75017effbe748a0001',0,'','S7YxHuJ0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7063,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137201360,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Indian top 10','Now don\'t get too upset but the 11th was The Music Room. I found the film downright irritating, but perhaps I\'ll blame my distaste towards Indian music on it. Plus it was simply a rich man\'s disintegration and it got a little old, like a torturous prolongued execution with a horrible soundtrack. Now if you\'re a fan of Indian music I can see how that would have an impact. I put Distant Thunder at the top because that was the Ray film I felt strongest about after my initial viewing. If I get a chance to watch the Apu Trilogy in a better environment (with legible subtitles perhaps) then the ranking might change.','e4dacd54d2ed6c8b4179c16aba0a1633',0,'','8Ywjgn9b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7064,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137213840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','@John\r\nSaw \"Sant Tukaram\" in my local cinema (they mostly show \"repertoire\" films), and it was a great experience. But if I\'ll ever get to see it again... \r\nThe two Ghatak were on VHS (a swiss company, I think Trigon). I borrowed them from my library, and the prints are restored and subtitled (german + french). My library also has cloud-capped star (haven\'t watched it, yet, because there seems to be a problem with the audio), but the company has released also other Ghatak films on VHS, so maybe I\'ll catch more. Here\'s the link: www.trigon-film.org (site also in english!)\r\n\r\n@madhuban\r\nYes, the ranking is in order of preference, so I think Aparajito is better than Pather Panchali.\r\nGreat to hear about the Ghatak films restoration! What funding organisation do you exactly work for?\r\n\r\n@wpqx\r\nWhere did you get to see all those Ray films on DVD/VHS? Didn\'t know so many were released.','b7b739ec0ae3d30600a1853b69cb0409',0,'','FD3qbAr1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7065,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137214020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','And sooo many indian films yet to see. I\'m feeling lucky! \r\nBut I also have to catch up on so many films, I wonder in how many decades I\'ll be satisfied...','28666e0b4274b131d1f73225c40d99ee',0,'','4BgoyNWq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7066,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137225120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Indian top 10','They were all on VHS. The Merchant Ivory foundation restored several and released them on Columbia/Tri Star VHS. In the case of a few I\'m not sure what the source was, but I rented the majority of them from Facets.','d26dac97958edcec4620a18c9b5d4bcc',0,'','egQbCP4Z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7067,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137256020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Ha ha, wpqx, i\'d suspected The Music Room might be your missing Ray! Sorry, can\'t resist a chuckle. Thanks, A for the video info. I\'ve got Cloud-Capped Star on dvd (BFI i think), now regret giving away River Called Titash.','37b1c3fa6d7bff26baff1e250c3f825a',0,'','FmKrbiV5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7068,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137267780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@ wpqx\r\n\r\nain\'t upset your dislike of the film made me more convinced that the DVD/VHS should have a commentary by a perceptive film scholar, as well as sensitive subtitling. It is a difficult film, even for many people in India, because it captures the last vestiges of feudalism (many of us were born after its demise). The old man, who you found so irritating, is really an anachronism amidst the ruins of a fleeting way of life. The more he becomes redundant, the more he tries to hold onto the only lifestyle known to him, till he becomes a caricature of a man - absurd, lonely and pathetic. But Ray\'s deft handling prevents one from dismissing him completely. A stinging critique of feudalism\'s display of power and grandeur, the film also invites compassion for a man who knows no other way of life. There are several layers to this film that make it far more complex than a straightforward critique. Against the landed gentry of old feudalism, you have the nouveau riche without a noble pedigree. The rules of the game, as it were, have changed (Ray as all of you know, was extremely fond of Renoir), but the game remains vapid and cold. What, I think, rescues the film from being a tirade against a social class and its dominance in the recent past, is the music. Everything was not wrong with feudalism. The landed gentry served a very important function as patrons of the arts. While the motivation for patronage might partially have been self- aggradisement, many of these zamindars were true connoisseurs of the arts, and they were responsible for the survival of many artists and their practices. It is this highly nuanced perspective, the ability to look at something from different points of view, that makes the film a great work.\r\n\r\n@ A\r\nI work for an organisation called the India Foundation for the Arts, and we make grants to projects across the arts. Will talk about what i do in the introduction thread.\r\n\r\nM','09de65f4752859867b490bd8888a9054',0,'','KqByxHaL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7069,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1137274560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Even as an elitist anachronism, I certainly felt sympathy for him and i agree it\'s a delicately balanced, non-judgmental film (everyone has their reasons, indeed), that may be more rewarding with further viewings. I appreciated it more second time round, anyway, and it\'s also lingered in my mind enough to tempt further goes. Actually it\'s often appeared in critics\' top 10\'s, behind Charulata and Apu trilogy, though one that\'s split critical opinion more than most by Ray?\r\n\r\nIndian music does seem difficult for some of us in the West to properly appreciate! In Cloud-Capped Star the sections i least liked involved the self-centred brother practising his singing (not very convincingly to my ear, but then again, he was working at it!) yet there are a couple of really beautiful musical passages (and he clearly does improve), and i\'ve really enjoyed quite a few songs in other films.','87a9f7bde55f4de7b9adafc7849283af',0,'','4Jp8bzE6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7070,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141150980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Two contemporary films that I\'ve got to recommend very highly are \"Maqbool\" and \"Raghu Romeo\". \"Maqbool\" by Vishal Bharadwaj is an extraordinary adaptation of Macbeth and according to me can hold its own with the other great adaptations. \"Raghu Romeo\" by Rajat Kapoor has Vijay Raaz, (the actor who played the decorator, Dubey Ji, in \"Monsoon Wedding\") turning in a nuanced performance. The tale of a man obsessed with an actress from a television soap, \"Raghu Romeo\" explores the power of the small screen and its ability to so transfix the viewer that he/she mistakes the fictional story of the soap for real life. But you need the stomach for kitsch.\r\n\r\nM','c71453714c3ce9d8b9eb05dcea48cbaf',0,'','ClQ9Fvoh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7071,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141189980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','You might be surprised to hear this but I\'ve seen Maqbool. I once read an enthusiastic review of it in a foreign magazine (the film played at a few International fests), so I decided to check it out. I liked it; especially enjoyed the performance of the overbearing patriarch (not sure of his name).','b285beace178c189f9ff8728932ede6b',0,'','Bk6DCYEv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7072,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141298820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','arsaib, i\'m glad you saw \"Maqbool\" and liked it. The overbearing patriarch was played by Pankaj Kapoor. Many people said that he closely followed Brando in The Godfather. I disagree because he plays an old, god-fearing Muslim who is also a ruthless mafia chief. The film harps on this dualism till his death. What I liked best about this adaptation is that it takes the moral universe of Shakespeare\'s text very seriously, while recontextualising it in present day India. The stroke of genius is really the tranformation of the witches into two corrupt fortune-telling police officers. \r\n\r\nThe same director is making \"Othello\" now. I have great hopes!\r\n\r\nM','973ed23a95de8687b316052b10d612a0',0,'','AtvX4EDg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7073,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141357860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','The stroke of genius is really the tranformation of the witches into two corrupt fortune-telling police officers. \r\n\r\nTrue. I think one of them was played by the great Om Puri, right?','5963cfc571e75653fb96d3a5f09db5df',0,'','uw6f95Jq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7074,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141607580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','So many helpful suggestions here, and i\'ve been scouring imdb ratings too. Over 18,000 films listed there, so it\'s quite ridiculous what a miniscule percentage i\'ve seen. I\'m ordering the book 100 Bollywood films to help me catch up on the subject.\r\n\r\nI\'d be interested in any opinions here on the following, which i\'d like to see:\r\n\r\nDevdas (Barua)\r\nRang de Basanti (Mehra)\r\nThe Bogeyman (Aravindan)\r\nNayakan (Rathnam)\r\nChandralekha (Vasan)\r\nTarang (Shahani)\r\nAjantrik (Ghatak)\r\nPushpak (Singeetham)\r\nThe Forest (Karnad)\r\nThe Seedling (Benegal)\r\nTaxi Driver (Anand)\r\nBlack Friday (H.Mukherjee)\r\nSiddheshwari (Kaul)\r\nSangam (Kapoor)\r\nPiravi (Karun)\r\nAnand (Mukherjee)\r\nThe Jewel of Shiva (Vishwanath)\r\nA Folk Tale (Mehta)','94ea7cdbcf6d3e5ea16f62163720c39e',0,'','QTA6e8Jk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7075,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141630920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','Ratnam\'s Nayakan, which surprisingly ended up on Time\'s Top 100 list (not that it matter a whole lot), is an Indianized \"Godfather,\" meaning that it\'s very violent and... musical. Nayakan is a good film with a great central performance. (I\'ve also enjoyed Ratnam\'s more \"commercial\" recent films such as The Youth and Bombay.)\r\n\r\nAnkur was the debut feature of Benegal, an Indian \'New Cinema\' pioneer. This film, along his later efforts Nishant and Manthan, attempted to expose the oppressive mechanisms prevalent in rural patriarchal societies. I remember it mostly for Shabana Azmi, who also made her debut, I think.','a6092beb8e33e3009c20f555c3911bcb',0,'','C7GWRkP8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7076,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141653480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Ah thanks. Someone (Tamil) at ymdb recently picked Nayakan in their 20 and it\'s in my Encyclopedia, so i\'d be interested to see it. I\'m all for the empowerment of oppressed minorities, but wonder if the film is too jingoistic and if it glamourises violence. As for Benegal, well i\'ve been waiting to see his stuff for quite some years now. Doesn\'t seem to be much available here, though.\r\n\r\nThanks for bringing Time\'s list to my attention- apart from Nayakan (and it also includes Pyaasa) it still has plenty of the usual suspects, so rather less exciting than i\'d hoped.','10e78fb433f50b6115f236b519085d24',0,'','DNfsqSnu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7077,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141732500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Please do not waste your time checking out this awful film. The central problem with this film is that the director could not make up his mind whether he should go on to make a true-to-the-genre \"watan\" (literally means country, but as a genre signifies films with an exaggerated patriotic sensibility) film, or a parody of it. \"Rang de Basanti\" oscillates between these two points of view, till it fails to be either. A pathetic and limp film as a patriotic one, and an unsure and wavering attempt at parody, inspite of some peppy dialogue inserted almost as an afterthought. The characters have no history and no context. Added to this already fatal menu, is the story of a \"foreigner\", Sue, who comes to India to make a film on Indian martyrs, and in the process of making it, inspires patriotism in a group of aimless youth, so much so that they end up assassinating the defence minister for corruption! The film degenerates abominably in the second half. The transformation of the group of friends is ridiculous, possibly because the film is uncertain about both the verite register as well as the demands of the larger-than-life. Stylish cinematography does not rescue it, because the decision to shoot the sequences from the film within the film (the one being made by Sue) in sepia, is simply a gimmick (I strongly suspect that Mehra saw Hou\'s \"Good Men, Good Women\" without paying enough attention to the sheer craft of the director). Towards the end, when the friends decide to get rid of the corrupt defence minister, there is a hilarious morphing - each of them start speaking chaste, literary Hindi imagining themselves to be the martyrs whose roles they enact in Sue\'s film. Though it is supposed to be a dead serious sequence, you cannot stop yourself from rolling on the floor! I tried really hard to think of this film as a parody, but couldn\'t hold on to the idea for long. Ultimately, all the friends are shot by the rapid action force as they take over the radio station and announce to the nation that they are brave martyrs!!! \r\n\r\nMr Mehra, are you serious? If you are, you\'ve pushed bollywood back by 20 years and more, in spite of your back-and-forth storytelling device, film-within a film gimmick and the technical finesse of the shots! Is there any earthly reason why you should be making a bad rehash of N. Chandra\'s 1986 film, \"Ankush\" in 2006? \r\n\r\nM','242caa37d4de38c8ea71cfa6c5fe7e8a',0,'','Uv46E0h9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7078,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141733520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@John\r\n\r\nI am a little puzzled by the attribution of \"Black Friday\" to Hrishikesh Mukherjee. The only film known by that title is a 2004 film on the bomb blasts in Bombay, by the scriptwriter-turned-director Anurag Kashyap. It was stuck at the censors. I do not know of any Hrishikesh Mukherjee film by that name. Do enlighten me.\r\n\r\nYou do have a damn good list there! \r\n\r\nM','ef03cc83ad9cdd3bd1eca6c65ecdc31a',0,'','aikmjzK0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7079,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141733940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Aparna Sen has redeemed herself with this film. There are the occasional glitches, especially her penchant for being politically correct. But, overall, it was a very satisfactory film. The concluding sequence was quite special! Will write in more detail. Do watch this instead of \"Rang de Basanti\" \r\n\r\nM','c7f1f7aaadc96196e39d58cf7a8b4133',0,'','Jx3skq2R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7080,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141736520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks for all that work. I don\'t understand my attribution of Black Friday either cos it\'s in my little list here i was using as by Kashyap! It was next on the disorganised list to Kismet by G.Mukherjee but even that\'s not H.Mukherjee. Strange! I don\'t know what i was thinking of at the time. Black Friday gets excellent ratings at imdb but then so too i think does Rang de Basanti! Just shows you can\'t trust strangers, eh?..\r\n\r\nAnother film i\'d love to see now is Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam(Dutt). There\'s an interesting article on Dutt in last month\'s Sight and Sound by Mark Cousins, which praises the film (though it isn\'t one i\'d noticed in top 10\'s), and it\'s rated Dutt\'s greatest achievement in my Pocket Essentials Bollywood. Fascinating background with all Dutt\'s personal problems, alcoholism, Suyicide attempts, marriage breakdown (film feud between his wife and mistress Waheeda Rehman), stars refusing to participate etc. He did kill himself 2 years later.','2bfb0bded93224d448519d6d545d39d4',0,'','R1GchCEA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7081,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141740180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','The majority of the people here are also raving about \"Rang De Basanti\"! I just cannot understand it! One reason could be that Amir Khan is still a huge crowd-puller. But then, Mangal Pandey: The Rising\" went out of the box office with a whimper inspite of having Amir and his patiently grown regal moustache! Maybe, popular taste in the cities is veering towards technical finesse of a certain kind, which this film seems to deliver on. But then, Ramgopal Varma\'s films have that and don\'t go down well with the city audience. I am frankly perplexed! \r\n\r\nWhile we are on Ramgopal Varma, who is also a great producer and nurturer of young talent, would like some of you to try \"Darna Mana Hai\" (a bad translation would be \"You are not allowed to get scared\") by Prawal Raman. Six stories exploring different kinds of fear are strung together. Just checked and saw that imdb has a hopeless review. Do try and see this film, if only for a few whacky stories and great acting. I loved it inspite of the weakness of the thread that holds all the stories together.\r\n\r\nAnother strong recommendation is \"Let\'s Talk\" by Ram Madhvani. Should be easy to find because it is in English and has done the smaller festivals circuit.\r\n\r\nJohn, my memory of Dutt\'s \"Sahib, Biwi Aur Gulam\" (as also Barua\'s \"Devdas\") is rather dusty. I watched it ages ago. Should see it again before I say anything about the film. Regarding the other films on your list, I should be able to write about them from memory, but given the pace at which I review films, it might take a year or more \r\n\r\nM','b37f12486404294a43c719c736e01df6',0,'','tDTXG3CS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7082,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141755660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Well you\'ve already greatly increased my knowledge and interest in Indian cinema and made a magnificent contribution to this site','87c13b941c81c48b6ea31716172c64c1',0,'','GryRqPU4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7083,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141785120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks for the warning, Madhuban; I\'ll try to avoid Basanti. \r\n\r\nI\'ve sen Sen\'s Mr. and Mrs. Iyer. Nothing great, but still much more mature than what usually gets produced.\r\n\r\nVarma\'s Satya was impressive; Company, not as much.','6a73fc77da9e297cb0a6f41686a9ba44',0,'','t3cY5VnK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7084,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1141816980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@arsaib\r\nNicely shot film, but what annoyed me no end was the simplification of the communal issue. I do not think communalism can be toyed with to lend an aesthetic backdrop to a story of two people. More than being politically incorrect, what it does is to push a complex and brutal reality under the carpet of an abiding humanism. To me, this is criminal. Aparna Sen\'s flirtation with the political has been a consitent problem. She does not need to make a political film if she chooses not to, but to sprinkle these issues like exotic garnishing throughout her films, to make them look socially relevant, is a bit hard to swallow.\r\n\r\nI loved \"Company\", but I do see that you would not have the vantage that we, in India, who regularly watch bollywood seem to have. Ramgopal Varma brought something quite unusual into the gangster genre. Other than mixing the realist and the non-realist, he demolished the high moral ground of Hindi films as also its stereotypical portrayal of the police and the gangster. The good and the bad, had been types - clearly identifiable by the clothes they are made to wear, the language they speak in and the moral decisions and the resultant actions that are attributed to them. The police have been depicted either as completely corrupt or self-righteous martyrs; gangsters as symbols of the society\'s rot or inherently good souls led astray. Varma\'s films do not offer us such black and white sterotypes. They do not allow us to judge, to take an all-too-comfortable moral position vis-a-vis his characters, whether they happen to be the police or the gangsters. Crime in \"Company\" is corporatised, almost functioning as flawlessly and efficiently like a multinational company. That is what makes the films morally ambiguous. A job is well or badly done, by the police and the gangster alike. Unable to occupy a high moral ground, it makes you awfully uncomfortable. \r\n\r\nThe chap who wrote \"Satya\" for Ramgopal Varma has gone on to make \"Black Friday\"','a256c0451d3e8bfdeefdb3efc3a02e88',0,'','hr4HU2Es',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7085,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142196900,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Very interesting to read your \"conversations\" on Indian film, though I notice I don\'t know @#%$ about it \r\nHopefully I\'ll see more in the future. I\'ll try to watch the ones you people recommend and any others I may lay hands on I\'ll ask madhuban for advice. \r\nThanks madhuban for your knowledge and insight into Indian film!','92674fde7e48b7e192accad74fb8c2f7',0,'','CiFKx3de',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7086,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142332620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','A, I\'m glad to help out with Indian films. But, I must warn you that I don\'t get to see enough of regional cinema (in languages other than Hindi, and my mother tongue Bengali), to have a fuller sense of what\'s happening. The problem with India is that each state is like a different country with its own language and culture, and the films (subtitled DVDs) emerging out of those contexts are as difficult to access as films from other parts of the world! \r\n\r\nM','b1422c703baac98d32c5cd750f805cad',0,'','uHCzNqbS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7087,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142661600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','Rang de Basanti is not \"bad\", it\'s embarrassing and, quite frankly, dangerous. As someone who cares about how history is represented, I was nauseated to even consider a comparison between subcontinent\'s greatest freedom fighters and these idiots who decide to take the law in their own hands based on ... I\'m not exactly sure what. If I was a government official I\'d be scared after watching this. The \"SMS generation,\" which is what they are referred to, may need to be awakened but this is certainly not the route to take. Simply put: Basanti threatens to offer a patriotic lesson via a text message.','5f29fe3f312f00dc313fd2cb3df66d9b',0,'','LJ3AfHqS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7088,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142716680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','\"Simply put: Basanti threatens to offer a patriotic lesson via a text message.\"\r\n\r\narsaib, this is perhaps the most artfully written damning sentence I\'ve come across. Ironically, I\'m glad you watched it, if only to write such a fine review \r\n\r\np.s. - the censor board did get its wind up, only to have a closed-door screening and decide that it actually is an inspiring film! strange are the ways of the censor board in this country!','114a9c0980cdc087be77a4bbcc44d8d5',0,'','RU7nBLHS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7089,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1142760600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','The end credits listed the # of casualties MIG? pilots have suffered in the last few years: is this a controversial issue in India? Not that the film investigated it with any depth, but obviously the claim was rather bold.','d68fd1899349a6b1de255204e367f306',0,'','pAPK1Xhk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7090,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143067560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','The case of the pilot in the film is based on a real-life incident that was reported in the newspapers about 6-7 years ago. These issues have come up from time to time, like many other malpractices and their resulting debacles, and made headlines for a couple of days. But that is about it. It makes me sad to say that in a country of teeming millions, the life of the average citizen is hardly a matter of concern for the powers that be, whether they belong to the left or the right.','836ddd49b41630e5a98613044c419492',0,'','C98qlAUx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7091,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143332160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Madhuban, would it be possible for you to make a list like Miklosks of good Indian films, I live in an area where we have several Indian specific dvd/video rental shops plus there is a large collection in our central library. The only thing is they don\'t appear to have much in the way of older films. \r\n\r\nI have the wonderful Apu Trilogy plus Days and Nights in the Forest, Salaam Bombay, The Terrorist and a couple of others but would really like to broaden my range.\r\n\r\nThanks Trev.','4944d33dc231c9ddbfef5c1c7a0db256',0,'','0QqXCLJe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7092,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143380520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','As the world\'s leading authority on Indian cinema, having memorised every scene of every deserving film, here\'s my list of essentials- whether crowd-pleasing blockbusters or high art.\r\n\r\n1935 Devdas (Barua)\r\nHunterwali (Wadia)\r\n1936 Sant Tukaram (Damle, Fattelal)\r\n1943 Kismet (G.Mukherjee)\r\n1944 Udayer Pathey/ Towards the Light (Roy)\r\n1948 Aag/Fire (Kapoor)\r\nChandralekha (Vasan)\r\n1949 Andaaz (Mehbob Khan)\r\nBarsaat (Kapoor)\r\n1951 Awara (Kapoor)\r\n1952 Aan (Mehbob Khan)\r\nBaiju Bawra (Bhatt)\r\n1953 Daera/ The Division (Amrohi)\r\nDo Bigha Zamin/Two Acres of Land (Roy)\r\n1954 Boot Polish (Arora)\r\nTaxi Driver (Anand)\r\n1955 Pather Panchali (Ray)\r\n1956 Aparajito (Ray)\r\nCid (Khoshla)\r\nJagte Raho (Kapoor)\r\n1957 Ajantrik (Ghatak)\r\nDo Aankhen Barah Haath/Two Eyes Twelve Hands (Shantaram)\r\nMother India (Mehbob Khan)\r\nPyaasa (Dutt)\r\n1958 Jalsaghar/The Music Room (Ray)\r\nMadhumati (Roy)\r\n1959 Apur Sansar/The World of Apu (Ray)\r\nDhool ka Phool/Blossom of Dust (Chopra)\r\nKaagaz ke Phool/Paper Flowers (Dutt)\r\n1960 Devi/The Goddess (Ray)\r\nMeghe Dhaka Tara/Cloud-Capped Star (Ghatak)\r\nMughal-e-Azam (Asif)\r\n1961 Komal Gandhar (Ghatak)\r\nTeen Kanya/Three Daughters (Ray)\r\n1962 Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam (Alvi)\r\nSubarnarekha (Ghatak)\r\n1964 Charulata (Ray)\r\nSangam (Kapoor)\r\n1965 Guide (V.Anand)\r\n1966 Teesri Kasan/The Third Oath (B.Bhatacharya)\r\nTeesri Manzil (V.Anand)\r\n1967 Jewel Thief (V.Anand)\r\n1968 Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne/The Adventures of Goopy and Bagha (Ray)\r\nPadosan (Swaroop)\r\n1969 Aranyer Din Ratri/Days and Nights in the Forest (Ray)\r\nBhuvan Shome (Sen)\r\nUski Roti/Our Daily Bread (Kaul)\r\n1970 Anand (H.Mukherjee)\r\nMera Naam Joker (Kapoor)\r\nSamskara (Reddy)\r\n1971 Anubhav/Experience (B.Bhatacharya)\r\nPakeezah (Amrohi)\r\n1972 Calcutta 71 (Sen)\r\nMaya Darpin/Mirror of Illusion (Shahani)\r\nTitash Ekti Nadir Naam/A River Called Titash (Ghatak)\r\n1973 Ankur/The seedling (Benegal)\r\nAshani Sanket/Distant Thunder (Ray)\r\nAvishkar/Discovery (B.Bhatacharya)\r\nBobby (Kapoor)\r\nGaram Hava/Hot Winds (Sathyu)\r\nKaadu/The Forest (Karnad)\r\n1974 Jukti Takko Aar Gappo/Reason Debate and a Tale (Ghatak)\r\n1975 Deewar (Chopra)\r\nSholay (Sippy)\r\n1976 Lambhardani (Veerendra)\r\nManthan/ The Churning (Benegal)\r\nMrigaya (Sen)\r\n1977 Amar Akbar Anthony (Desai)\r\nKodiyettam (Gopalakrishnan)\r\nShatranj Ke Khiladi/The Chess Players (Ray)\r\nSwami (B.Chatterjee)\r\n1978 Junoon (Benegal)\r\nMuqaddar ka Sikandar (Mehra)\r\n1979 Shankarabharanam (Vishwanath)\r\n1980 Aakrosh / Cry of the Wounded (Nihalani)\r\nAlbert Pinto Ko Gussa Kyon Aata Hai (Mirza)\r\nBhavni Bhavai (K.Mehta)\r\nOppol (Sethumdhavan)\r\nSatah Se Uthata Admi/Arising from the Surface (Kaul)\r\nSparsh (Palanjape)\r\n1981 36 Chowringhee Lane (A.Sen)\r\nUmrao Jaan (Ali)\r\n1982 Mangal Pandey (Malhotra)\r\nNamkeen (Gulzar)\r\n1983 Ardh Satya/ The Half-Truth (Nihalani)\r\nJaane Bhi Do Yaaron (Shah)\r\n1984 Ghare Baire/Home and the World (Ray)\r\nTarang (Shahani)\r\n1985 Anantyatra (Patwardhan)\r\nMirch Masala/ Spices (K.Mehta)\r\n1987 Anantaram (Gopalakrishnan)\r\nIjaazat (Gulzar)\r\nNayakan (Rathnam)\r\n1988 Khayal Gotha (Shahani)\r\nOm Dar-B-Dar (Swaroop)\r\nPestonjee (V.Mehta)\r\nPiravi (Karun)\r\nSalaam Bombay (Nair)\r\n1989 Kaal Abhirati/Time Addiction (Chakraborty)\r\nSalim Lagde Pe Mat Ro (Mirza)\r\nSiddheshwari (Kaul)\r\n1990 Shiva (Varma)\r\nVastuhaara/The Dispossessed (Aravindan)\r\n1991 Idiot (Kaul)\r\nTalapathi (M.Ratnam)\r\n1993 Charachar/Shelter of the Wings (Dasgupta)\r\nRoja (Ratnam)\r\nSuraj ka Satvan Ghoda/Seventh Horse of the Sun (Benegal)\r\n1994 Andaz Apna Apna (Santoshi)\r\nBandit Queen (S.Kapur)\r\nHum Aapke Hian Koun (Barjatya)\r\n1995 Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (A.Chopra)\r\nRangeela (Varma)\r\n1998 Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (Johar)\r\nPushpak (Singeetham)\r\nSatya (Varma)\r\n1999 Sarfarosh (Matthan)\r\nThe Terrorist (Sivan)\r\n2000 Uttara (Dasgupta)\r\n2001 Lagaan (Gowariker)\r\nMonsoon Wedding (Nair)\r\n2002 Devdas (Bhansali)\r\n2003 Maqbool (Bahradwaj)\r\nRaghu Romeo (Kapoor)\r\n2004 Black Friday (Kashyap)\r\nSwapner Din (Dasgupta)\r\n2005 Black (Bhansali)\r\n2006 Rang de Basanti (Mehra)','3e57832e6ea9e6b2748a2bb872ee005f',0,'','ndCD6bcl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7093,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143393900,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks for your list John, I\'ll take your initial statement as tongue in cheek. \r\n\r\nI\'ll check against the library website first, hopefully they\'ll have at least a few of the ones listed.\r\n\r\nBandit Queen is on your list, I\'m not sure how well my memory serves me but wasn\'t there an earlier version of this made in the 60\'s or 70\'s?\r\n\r\nI also forgot to mention in my post that I have the first 2 of Deepa Mehta\'s elements trilogy (still waiting to see the third).\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','afabb30998d1bcf082193a4ca03217c3',0,'','UiLZkvNd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7094,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143436260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','Yeah, I think John was referring to Imdb\'s search function.','1cc0175cfe522eded48336606d898300',0,'','R0mXeqAw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7095,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1143439020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Indian top 10','Imdb?! Me, have to rely on imdb? Outrageous suggestion. Er, apart from my own mastery of the whole enormous subject i\'ve simply prudently checked with my Encyclopedia of Indian cinema, Pocket Essentials Bollywood, the discussion here so far, including Madhuban\'s recommendations, critics\' top 10\'s, and just out of passing interest of course, suggestions and ratings at imdb- in case, just the faintest off-chance i might have inadvertently forgotten something.\r\n\r\nAnyway, purely out of modesty, i\'ve even left some space for Madhuban to add the necessary finishing touches!\r\n\r\n\r\np.s- having been born on Groundhog Day, i have certain unexpected advantages for mastery of a subject in record time!','f9fd1effed27ce504b81fb4b3ef7b299',0,'','KC0meTiJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7096,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1145610480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','There is some exciting Indian cinema that, ironically enough, doesn\'t get seen widely in India. Among these, I\'d like to mention Murali Nair\'s three films - \"Throne of Death\", \"A Dog\'s Day\" and \"A Story That Begins At the End\" (better known as \"Arimpara\"). Nair lives in the UK and has a company called flyingelephant films. Trevor, it might be easier for you to access his films. I am actually thinking of writing to his company to buy the three films. I found them fascinating!\r\n\r\nM','89a00b6c200dacfcb632621336789a13',0,'','YcoDtSlu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7097,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1145658540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Good to see you back madhuban (or may I call you M ). Thanks for the info, I need something to ignite my interest due to a run of mediocre films lately, hopefully I\'ll find that spark soon.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','5a6e609cb632a5089695b5b86e6526bd',0,'','vhYUsi91',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7098,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1152989520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','One new Indian film worth keeping an eye out for is Vishal Bharadwaj\'s Omkara, which I\'m told is ready for release (and thus will be available on DVD shortly thereafter). It\'s based on \"Othello\"; Bharadwaj\'s previous feature, Maqbool, took its cues from \"Macbeth.\" Hopefully, Madhuban will be able to fill us in shortly.','3668a4e83e180544b586834272d8b343',0,'','vLMxf1Vc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7099,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1154599140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','I am watching \"Omkara\" today. Hopefully, the review will be up over the weekend.\r\n\r\nJust to say I m back after a utterly exhausting dissertation submission (and no films watched over 2 months!), and am going back to film watching with a vengeance \r\n\r\nM','8c23d3329749305c37b12c46a86142e1',0,'','RKqof1hG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7100,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1154605560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Indian top 10','Glad to hear it, nothing quite like making up for lost time.','76b78cd30363893606062d342ee845aa',0,'','jWqBLz4u',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7101,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1154722860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Great to have you back madhuban, looking forward to your comments.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','66f8a4651466365b3a50a55588180a85',0,'','zPcYoaK1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7102,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155004860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'collectedsoul','Re: Indian top 10','My turn \r\nThis list will obviously change with time, but so far of the ones I have seen:\r\n\r\n1 Nayak - Satyajit Ray\r\n2 Charulata - Satyajit Ray\r\n3 The Chess Players - Ray\r\n4 Meghe Dhaka Tara - Ghatak\r\n5 Pather Panchali - Satyajit Ray\r\n6 The Music Room - Satyajit Ray\r\n7 Ajantrik - Ghatak\r\n8 Bhuvan Shome - Mrinal Sen\r\n9 Jaane Bhi Do Yaaro - Kundan Shah\r\n10 1947 Earth - Deepa Mehta\r\n\r\nThe list is rather Bengali-centric...thats because I\'m from there. I\'d love to see some South Indian films...difficult to access sadly.\r\n\r\nNow a best of Satyajit Ray list:\r\n1 Nayak\r\n2 Charulata\r\n3 The Chess Players\r\n4 Pather Panchali\r\n5 The Music Room\r\n6 Devi\r\n7 Teen Kanya\r\n8 Seemabaddha\r\n9 Aparajito\r\n10 Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne\r\n\r\nI\'m yet to see Kanchenjunga and Aranyer Din Ratri and a few others.\r\n\r\nPS. To those who were crying about not having access to Ghatak\'s films, I have all of them.','fa4e9bf596ff59eaa565bccc832cc341',0,'','T5DSgbz9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7103,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155152520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Well, you are lucky living in that particular region then. \r\nCould you maybe tell me how many feature-length films and shorts Ghatak has actually made in his career as a filmmaker. I\'ve been wondering this for months, and don\'t quite trust imdb...\r\n\r\nLiving in Germany, I have also access to many impressive films, that will probably never see the light of day outside the country if nobody tries to subtitle them...','cb16600735dc05c0db4f87abc3f70e62',0,'','2t71UWEk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7104,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155205920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'collectedsoul','Re: Indian top 10','These are the feature films Ghatak made as far as I know:\r\nNagarik - 1952, released in \'77\r\nAjantrik (Pathetic Fallacy) - 1958\r\nRunning Away From Home - 1959\r\nThe Cloud-Capped Star - 1960\r\nE-Flat - 1961\r\nSubarnarekha (The Golden Line) - 1962\r\nA River Named Titas - 1973\r\nReason, Debate and a Tale - 1974\r\n\r\nOther than Running Away From Home I have all the others...yet to see a few of them though.','b89b5a9e212f31d5a2590bea79073ac9',0,'','3gFdm7Tx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7105,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155405120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks.','5fabb598c2a623a07288015fd094d076',0,'','JH2DBbV4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7106,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155775560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Very pleased to say that Channel 4 is screening Ritwik Ghatak\'s The Cloud-capped Star next monday to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. Shame it\'s only one film but it\'s one I\'ve wanted to see for a very long time.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','336584520f7aaa28b500db940bb66d0d',0,'','1N5tWCkR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7107,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1156246080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Subarnarekha is being screened 28 August, looks like we may have a little season of Ghatak films here.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','d10af49954f94edce50205659b78dd30',0,'','XoLA2R5P',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7108,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1156267260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','That is a beautiful film. I can only urge you to see it. \r\nMaybe you\'ll be lucky and get more in September. \r\nHey, how about a write-up on it, when you see it? \r\n\r\nJust checked on the DVDBeaver mailing list, and you are right. Somebody mentioned a season, but besides the two didn\'t announce any other titles. But \"The Cloud-capped Star\" will obviously be introduced by Ghatak\'s son. \r\nEnjoy.','12211f70e63b2081424db08ffb511d28',0,'','TVsfWHn1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7109,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158897420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Indian top 10','Has anyone seen Veer-Zaara (2004) and if so, is it worth watching? It\'s part of a season of films by Yash Chopra and with a three hour plus running time I\'d value any opinions.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','5ba6dc35889d0b87d861da15f49d88d7',0,'','zHZuEkbL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7110,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163593020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','hi trevor,\r\n\r\nI liked Veer-Zaara but then I do have the patience to sit through a laborious bollywood patriotic film. It takes getting used to Worth a watch I would say simply because it is a shade different from the conventional \"watan\" film, and nicely shot too.\r\n\r\nM','01c708b002baca104139d6c1a5026f80',0,'','M86vKQdh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7111,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163649300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','How\'s the new Don, Madhuban? It\'s breaking box office records in the U.S.','f38531eba144ff7cde881325a54a2abb',0,'','bqG6WJEc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7112,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163670240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Haven\'t seen Don yet. The promos did not make me sit up and rush to the video library, inspite of the long, trendy satin/velvet/leather whatever coats that the postmodern Don parades in And I am a shade allergic to Kareena Kapoor and to imagine her as the glamorous Zeenat Aman is tough. I will watch it though and report. This being the remake season in bollywood, what you shouldn\'t touch at all is Umrao Jaan, no matter how it fares at the box office. It is beyond bad!\r\n\r\nWatch a low profile film instead. Being Cyrus is an amazing noir that bollywood has produced after a long time. Crisp editing, smart screenplay and a rocking Saif Ali Khan! If you\'ve seen Omkara, these two films together, in my opinion, have taken bollywood many steps ahead. The disappointing thing is that Rang De Basanti instead of Omkara gets picked for the Oscars! What a shame! \r\n\r\nMy take on Omkara coming up in soon.\r\n\r\nM','9d81401674c641518b3b63eaa500a327',0,'','WJLzUqPm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7113,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163672460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','I\'ll wait for your take on Omkara, but, yes, I liked it quite a bit also. Basanti being selected is disappointing; hopefully it won\'t go any further. Canada chose Deepa Mehta\'s Water, which probably has a good chance of making it to the final five because it did well with the critics and at the B.O. here, though it\'s no great shakes, either.','a344187b26c0f7e48b678fb4b6c22579',0,'','r2Zz3TSN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7114,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163672580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Indian top 10','I maintain my utter ignorance of Indian film, although I feel fairly confident with my knowledge of Ray\'s work. One of these days I\'ll make an effort to tackle Indian cinema, and this thread will give me exhaustive places to look.','77a9b4ce212298ff33c8cd3e460a75af',0,'','8EpY2aF0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7115,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163712180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Omkara - Vishal Bharadwaj\r\n\r\nOmkara has one of the most riveting opening scenes that I\'ve seen in a while. With more than a nod to the Western and to our home-grown blockbusters modelled on the Western (think Sholay), Omkara opens with the epigrammatic bewakoof aur chutiye mein dhaage bhar ka farak hota hai ga bhaiya (a fine line separates a fool and a bastard), a sentence that has already acquired the status of a quote. The interesting thing is that you hear a voice rendering this line and more, while the screen is black and gradually a long shot of a hilly, dusty landscape comes into view. Then from nowhere you get a tight close-up of a man parting a flower veil (the suggestion of a curtain in a playhouse is unmistakable!) and saying Tu to chutiya hai (you are a bastard) as the face of the wearer of the veil comes into the frame. \r\n\r\nThe opening line sets the tone for the film where most of the men use expletives as figures of speech. Add to this the low angle shot a little later, moving up from Langda Tyagi\'s woodland shoes to his waist to capture the hulk of the man with a gun perched atop a hill, looking down and gloating on the sad dregs of a marriage party gone awry. That it is his doing is slowly revealed to the audience as the meaning of the epigrammatic line addressed to Rajju (attired as a bridegroom), his friend, is driven home. You cannot but think of Gabbar in Sholay and it is fully intended. Only, this is Gabbar coming of age, delicately balanced between a larger-than-life outsider from nowhere and a small town mafia henchman with stained teeth, pink nailpolish, woodland shoes and a pronounced limp. I have some reluctance to put down the \"story\" in detail, because one can read about it in most official reviews. Therefore, I\'ll concentrate on certain aspects of the adaptation and on Bharadwaj\'s craft.\r\n\r\nOmkara plays out the precarious balancing act troughout, between the gritty political realism of small town Uttar Pradesh and the absurdly exaggerated characters of mainstream bollywood, building in the process, a complex, intriguing and phenomenal cinematic text based on one of Shakespeare\'s finest plays. And, he takes, in my opinion, many more risks than he did with Maqbool. Of the many risks that Omkara takes, the most significant is the denouement with regard to the \"villain\", Iago/Langda Tyagi. Omkara remains true to the moral universe of Shakespeare\'s tragedies, but overlays it with the moral world of bollywood cinema. The result of this is that Iago\'s exit from Shakespeare\'s play, with the enigmatic and ironic line, From this time forth I never will speak word is interpreted literally. The high moral ground of bollywood cinema dictates that Langda should die, and be killed by his wife. Curiously, Hamlet, is often understood to be the play that ends with loads of dead bodies on the stage. Omkara has a Hamlet-esque feel about it, and Omkara/Othello, Dolly/Desdemona, Langda/Iago and Indu/Emilia are all dead when the film ends. That Indu commits suicide by jumping into well is suggested in keeping with small town stories of women jumping into wells (ironically the sign of life in a dusty, rugged landscape) out of sheer despair. Ultimtely, the film leaves you with the sense of futility and tragic resonance that Shakespeare\'s tragedies exude. \r\n\r\nBharadwaj\'s grasp of small town electoral, caste and gender politics is extraordinary. Bhaisaab (Naseeruddin Shah) is the corrupt politician who wins the local election with the help of his Man Friday, Omkara. Othello, the Moor, is Omkara/Omi, the \"half-caste\", born of an \"unholy\" alliance between a brahmin (high caste) and a lower caste woman (the suggestion is that she was a prostitute), but he is the local gangster weilding absolute power. Assisting him in his nefarious activities and tied to him by kinship, is Langda Tyagi (married to his sister) who aspires to rise in his henchman\'s role to being second in command after Omi. And, there is the English-educated, guitar-weilding, suitably hip biker, Kesu Firangi/Cassio, who has a local fan following, and is therefore elevated to second-in-command by Omkara. It is a tactical move to serve Bhaisaab and Omi\'s political aspirations, but provides a fertile breeding ground for Langda\'s jealousy. The names of the characters in this film are striking because they reveal as much about small towns as about the characters. A case in point is Kesu Firangi. Firangi means foreign and while his name is Kesu, the suggestion is that people have added firangi almost like a family name to allude to his \"western\" ways. The same goes for Langda which is a word used to describe a man with a limp. \r\n\r\nDolly/Desdemona is a high-caste girl, the daughter of the lawyer who works for Bhaisaab. She is smitten by Omkara and there is a lovely engagement scene (Dolly is being married off to a man from her caste, Rajju) where she drops her engagement ring into Omkara\'s tea cup to trigger the silent, brooding lover into immediate action. Dolly is taken away on the day of her marriage by Omkara\'s henchmen and deposited in his village home, where his affectionate sister waits for the men of the family (her husband, Langda and her brother, Omi) to come back after their heroic exploits. The two women bond well, but Dolly, with her easy elegance and charm, is a sylph-like, uncanny, unreal presence amidst the rugged landscape and the dangerous life of the politician\'s henchmen. Kareena\'s casting works brilliantly in this film because she has nothing to do but look pretty and unreal to emphasise the difference between the half-caste Omkara and his ruthless world and her own small town, educated, affluent upbringing. Kareena\'s white skin and her doll-like looks work to the film\'s advantage, heightening the darkness of Omkara\'s skin and his wild, at times uncouth virility. \r\n\r\nThe difference is worked out in terms of the cinematography as well. Dolly is mostly shot with a warm, tender light against the dusty, earthy colours of the landscape around her, and the songs that sensuously play out the love between her and Omkara are in sharp contrast to the visual and spoken language of the rest of the film. There is a brilliant scene where she tries to impress Omkara by playing a guitar and singing a love song (that Kesu teaches her to sing) in English, and Omkara, already under Langda\'s influence, finds it highly suspicious and annoying. Suspicion is also motivated by the fact that Dolly and Kesu went to college together and there are more similarities between them than between Omkara and Dolly.\r\n\r\nIn the world of these richly differentiated cast of characters, there is another gem of a characterisation - Rajju/Roderigo. Frustrated by his aborted marriage to Dolly, he tries to poison Langda\'s mind. Rajju\'s appearance (particularly, the streaked hair and the gold chain), clothes (badly cut suits with horrendous yellow shirts) and bearing speak volumes about an upwardly mobile, high caste, small town loafer/businessman on the fringes of local politics. Deepak Dobriyal, in his debut essay as a film actor, is nothing short of brilliant. Throughout the film, he remains a shadowy outsider-insider, whose presence leads to the precipitation of important events that carries the story along. The perception that both of them are victims of the machinations of their superiors, make for a complex, seesawing bond between Langda and Rajju. Rajju is sometimes Langda\'s buffoon (for instance, the scene where Rajju gets drunk and equates his cowardice with that of Langda, and gets pushed into the water), at others, his accomplice in intrigue (the insult of Billo Chamanbahar, the glamorous, sexy, village performer, to irritate Kesu whose ladylove she happens to be). \r\n\r\nLike the extremely imaginative adaptation of the witches as corrupt, fortunetelling police officers in Maqbool, the handkerchief in Othello undergoes a fascinating transformation into a bejewelled waistband in Omkara. That it belonged to Omi\'s mother and is lovingly gifted to his bride-to-be, brings into the scope of the film a whole new vista about family and the emotional value of heirlooms, giving credence to Omi\'s suspicion when Dolly loses it. A further layer is added to film by the fact that Indu finds it lying around and steals it, obviously attracted to a piece of jewellery that will never be hers. She wears it to bed to please her husband, who recognises it as the family heirloom that Omi is emotionally attached to, and immediately thinks of using it to implicate Dolly. Through a series of intrigues, the waistband ends up adorning Billo Chaman Bahar and Lagda invents a juicy story full of sexual connotations justifying how the heirloom got to Billo. A similar layer of intrigue is built around mobile phones, which are increasingly becoming the status symbol in small towns.\r\n\r\nWhile the acting is first rate all around, Saif Ali Khan will go down in history for essaying the scheming, gutter-mouthed Langda. From the first shot to his death, Omkara is really Langda/Saif\'s film. Bharadwaj\'s genius lies in NOT being overwhelmed by Shakespeare, and being able to extract the central concerns of the plays to create a work that resonates with Shakespeare\'s tragic intensity while being deeply invested in and attentive to the local context. A wealth of subtle details builds up to the tragic resolution, like Dolly\'s father\'s parting shot, \"a girl who betrays her father is not to be trusted\" and the crucial scene 20 minutes into the film, where Omi selects Kesu as the second-in-command. \r\n\r\nIn an effort to wind up this never-ending review, I\'d like to leave you with this thought that while Maqbool was a spare, somewhat arty (though I dislike such a demarcation) and incredibly well-worked out gangster film with a moral universe, Omkara is much more mainstream, and much, much more ambitious! Nothing about the film is spare. It is a grand film, grandiosely imagined, shot and edited like Westerns. The cinematography by debutant Tassaduq Hussain is fantastic, and the editing so good that it makes you pay attention to each cut. \r\n\r\nVishal Bharadwaj began his career and made a mark as a music director, and his composing skills are in ample evidence here. The variety and the orchestration of the songs speak of a musical sensibility that is quite rare. While Maqbool had the occasional song, Omkara confronts the bollywood convention head on and makes each song serve a different function - narrative in flashback, an avenging shootout or a musical eulogy of the local gangster\'s prowess. \r\n\r\nThe Beedi song deserves special mention for mixing electronic groove with the romping strains of a cheap, slightly out-of-tune harmonium so common in small town concerts. The way it is shot is also impeccable. The hastily-put-together stage with the garish, somewhat tacky backdrops announcing Billo Chaman Bahar & Orchestra with phone numbers (a suggestion that Billo may be more than a dancer) is appropriately small town. But, the dance is both bawdy and graceful, teasing the audience within the film and outside it, indulging their deepest fantasies, while keeping its distance from a straightjacket realist portrayal of a small town performance context. The beedi song is like a capsule that brings to attention the fine balance between realism and representation that I allude to at the beginning of this review. Many people who have complained about the dialect (note that the dialogues are written by Bharadwaj too) used in the film being not quite a recognisable brand of small town, Uttar Pradesh Hindi, I feel, have missed the point.\r\n\r\nOmkara is a pathbreaking film and holds its own against such reputed adaptations of Shakespeare as Kurosawa\'s Throne of Blood, Kozintsev\'s King Lear or Kaurismaki\'s Hamlet Goes Business. It is a film that reveals more riches with every viewing. Shall we expect a Hamlet next, Mr Bharadwaj, and perhaps a Measure for Measure?\r\n\r\nM','dd48050ffef12f7d1749d93c6506c5a6',0,'','eXQ2wiqZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7116,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163758320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','I had no clue that I\'d written such a rambling review! I was, as they say, under the influence Have edited it slightly and reduced its length, though I must say it is still shamefully long! \r\n\r\nM','736c9e18a13fdb475abd844f57f47845',0,'','bY6fUT3p',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7117,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1164135480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','A review that is too long doesn\'t exist, only one that\'s too short. \r\nThough I have to run to my classes in five minutes, and don\'t have the time to read it right now.','e54cabd2d084b41bbacfa63134930d1a',0,'','R6QSieVv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7118,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1164914580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Read it now, and i think I have to see the film first. I\'m completely ignorant of Bollywood movies, I should add. If I watch the film, I\'ll come back to your review.\r\nThis thread on indian films is really becoming a great source of information for what to look out for.','431abff6c16850020ac60787eb729cb5',0,'','mHfF5yeB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7119,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167527880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Madhuban: well, i have now seen Umrao Jaan and enjoyed it- my wife liked it even more. Thanks a lot for putting me onto it. Also now seen Pyaasa (very good, a few tremendous sequences, but let down by the final section, i thought, so overall i\'d expected better), Sahib bibi aur Ghulam (ok), Sholay (disappointing- hardly very subtle, though i know some like its references + coverage of all sorts of genres). Guide (Anand), Bombay (Ratnam), Meera Naam Joker + a few others on my rental list. I\'m very glad to see the site here is still going as i thought it was finished! A refuge to return to.','d33530563ee7b48e2268f1ac679b44a9',0,'','UavQfoY3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7120,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167592440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Hey John, glad to see you back','ac7b84048714092251b922980f42515c',0,'','NKh26UWG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7121,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167763920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Dito. Looks like you`ve been watching quite a lot of Indian films, judging by my own standards. I`d be more than pleased if you could tell us more about them.','93f4eed93be50a9042ed1f78914d03a2',0,'','XKSnEaQv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7122,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167788100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Oh my god, i\'ve just done a neat little run-down on the films and pressed a wrong button, all lost!! Blast and damn. Wait till i collect myself and regain the enthusiasm after the dismal setback','75b22b8ed8d08fd44621286aa47ae43c',0,'','xlerX6pF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7123,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167788460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Right, try again.\r\n\r\nSholay, massive hit in 1975, made megastar of Amitabh Bachchan, still possibly the most popular Bollywood film of all. A sort of broadly comic genre-hopping romantic musical Eastern Western about 2 young likeable petty crooks who are hired by a former lawman (who admired their courage in a previous escapade) to take revenge on the dastardly villain of the piece. More than hints of Leone and Chaplin, but not really my thing. \r\n\r\nSaving this, before onto the next.','5004c8b9454a6e9fb4fb7cfee7d553c9',0,'','09MRyZnf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7124,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167789180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Pyaasa (Guru Dutt, 1957). This pops up in a few critics\' top 10\'s so i had very high hopes, having enjoyed Dutt\'s 1959 film Paper Flowers. Here Dutt is a destitute neglected poet who is appreciated by and takes up with beautiful prostitute Waheeda Rehman, after the love of his student life marries an exploitative publisher. Dollops of social satire, especially in the last 1/2 hour (which has a rather o.t.t messianic feel), whereas i prefer the film\'s sometimes lush sometimes melancholic romanticism and some marvellous visual sequences. There\'s already a strain of self-pity, cynicism and anger at society, which brought to mind Dutt\'s suicide in the 1960\'s. If the film had ended 1/2 hour earlier i might well have ranked it among the greats; no doubt others appreciate the change of tack more.','c8b96899e62e8fc310e9989e619940c9',0,'','wbKG7pdt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7125,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167789480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Sahib bibi aur Ghulam (1962). This time Dutt is the star not (official) director; a wistful melancholic film in which he looks back at the eye-opening days of innocent youth at a now deserted palatial mansion, where he had met 2 lovelies- Rehman again (with whom in real life Dutt had just finished an affair) and Meena Kumari (who shared his alcoholic tendencies). This had a good write-up by British critic Mark Cousins, but i was a touch disappointed, especially as my favourite sequence was the opening.','7a13f0dcd0ae73370fb6072fb992304f',0,'','Yqt0Uwc9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7126,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167790020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Indian top 10','Umrao Jaan (Muzaffar Ali, 1981). Madhuban recommended this one to me here. Based on a popular novel, set around Lucknow in the 19th century; about a young girl who is kidnapped into a life as courtesan entertainer, who becomes famous and has rich suitors but finds social stigma comes between her and true love. Very colourful, fine sets and costumes, and Rekha looking lovely. I enjoyed it, but i must admit i still prefer the even more opulent Mughal-e-azam (1960) and the utterly magnificent, bewitching, beguiling and breath-taking Pakeezah (1971, also about a courtesan, starring Meena Kumari)','d164061cb878e60034373b3d20965534',0,'','nYUSJptv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7127,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167791880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Thanks a lot. Now I only need to get my hands on some Indian films. Today I read an article from 1997 about Adoor Gopalakrishnan but none of his films are available in my parts, while the stores are full of Bollywood movies. But Im not too interested in those.','2fb78735cf20741ec672a01aa7a95a30',0,'','8ZzctikA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7128,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167851940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','@John\r\n\r\nRekha is the ultimate diva \r\n\r\n@A\r\n\r\nAdoor\'s films aren\'t available in India either. I\'ve seen all the Adoor films in film society and festival screenings where they get prints from the national archives. The disregard for good cinema in this country is appalling! I\'ve heard rumours though of the Kerala government taking up a 2-year project to restore and release on DVD the films of the Malayalam triumvirate - G. Aravindan, John Abraham (not the model/bollywood actor) and Adoor. Hoping that it happens for real.\r\n\r\nM','b9af85ac5d2ce50eca521d7c8bbd70cd',0,'','7zgFmd4Z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7129,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167879060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','That would be great news. Hope it works out! (and don`t forget the subtitles )','ac364d309906b2b00d6d45e818829155',0,'','yzKPkYhx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7130,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167946200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','English subtitles will be a certainty if those films are to be seen in other parts of India. Being bilingual, trilingual and even quadrilingual doesn\'t help much in a country that has 25 official languages','9c2d801def15fb169b630caabe137f68',0,'','tQwDo2CA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7131,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167959280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Hoh, I forgot. \r\nSomehow I thought india had seven officila languages...\r\nAre there any similarities between them?','6119b27ed9e8591a5791fbbfce026f30',0,'','mroL8JKR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7132,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168008060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Yes, there are some similarities. For instance, being a Bengali speaker and knowing Hindi, I do understand Assamese, Oriya and Marathi if they are spoken at a slow pace. If one knows Hindi, Gujarati can also be figured out to some extent. Same goes for Urdu. The South Indian languages are totally different, and within that group Malayalam (Adoor\'s films are in that language) has little or no resemblance to the other three. The fascinating thing is that in Pondicherry, which used to be a French colonial bastion, Tamilian rickshaw guys speak fluent French. Loads of spoken languages in different parts of the country are still not recognised as official languages. Language is such a political thing and there are such issues of power involved in marginalising some and elevating others! You should come here sometime, A','35b8b34594a2a8f5f4ca757a20416cbb',0,'','0b2Pvw5B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7133,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168118640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','As someone who admires the work of Mani Ratnam, I\'m looking forward to Guru. It\'s opening here next week.','79260a773efe8dddb7b92505ac7ecc9d',0,'','25ZaHV8R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7134,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168165680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Which of Mani Ratnam\'s films have you seen arsaib? I used to be fond of Mani Ratnam too. But, Yuva was so disappointing, that I am desperately hoping that Guru will see him back in form.','11c53de9c609eedfd6f2c0ccdb7be39e',0,'','T0XJWi7U',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7135,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168167300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Indian top 10','I\'ve seen just about every film he\'s made since Nayakan. Yuva was arguably his most mainstream film but I thought it sparkled with a certain vitality which was quite infectious.','4c47bf50e74d936533b9c9287a5f6a08',0,'','7DzyKbqa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7136,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168289160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','Wow, that\'s quite a lot! \r\n\r\nYou see, the college scenes in Yuva were shot in my alma mater and those of us who know the Kolkata student politics context and have lived it, found the film quite glib. Clearly, Mani Ratnam was trying to capture a history and a context he had little familiarity with, and it shows. Though, I have to admit that the action sequence on the second Hoogly Bridge (the older one being the famed Howrah Bridge) was nicely done. Maybe I have too much of an insider\'s knowledge and that makes me a tad biased.\r\n\r\nM','7b0eca27a8afa401af0cf5cee1f90c9e',0,'','CuSEDG4v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7137,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169069760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Yes, I should come to India someday. I know too many people who travel all over the world, while I\'m stuck here in Germany.\r\nBut it\'s always a question of money...\r\nAnd when I\'m in India, you can be sure that I\'ll buy hundreds of DVDs (if all have english subs), so this doesn\'t make it easier.','f3e568a655914ff7b1a1f63ae88e0c06',0,'','g39qmWdJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7138,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169292120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Indian top 10','DVDs of films made in India (whatever is available) would be approx 5-6 Euros each or less. You can take back cartloads of them','c6e5168025bb6927c12ce0021d5029d4',0,'','xAGW8JqX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7139,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169685240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','If I ever get the opporunity to visit your country, I\'m sure this thread will be an important guide.','a43fcde3470758736f9aeb6b1e0a68da',0,'','ijvQwFly',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7140,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196525760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'justindeimen','Re: Indian top 10','I really need to get more of Mani Ratnam\'s films. So far I\'ve watched Roja and Nayakan this past week. The latter was mind-blowingly good, definitely raced up my mind\'s list of best films that year and possibly of all Indian films. The central performance is possibly the best I\'ve seen in a film from India, bar none. A little reading shows that it was indeed honoured as a great performance. \r\n\r\nwww.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,nayakan,00.html\r\n\r\nI\'ve now got Dil Se and Guru on hand. Mani Ratnam\'s quickly solidifying himself as someone I would readily bring up and exalt if a conversation ever switches to Indian cinema.','5638b25cbc5925f5ef0fcc3b7fc6d2a5',0,'','mfYhv09b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7141,1520,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202000820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Indian top 10','Need to check out if some of his films are available in Germany. I think chances aren\'t too bad. \r\nWould be great to see you write something about it, Justin.','c5f5dbaaacf8b20184095f2aa984ff99',0,'','SVBd2zXf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7142,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196417160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','In 1994 Somos magazine brought together 25 film industry professionals, movie critics, and academics and selected the \"100 Best Mexican films\" to date. \r\n___________________________________________________________________ \r\n\r\n1. Vámonos con Pancho Villa / Let\'s Go with Pancho Villa (1935) - Fernando de Fuentes \r\n\r\nLos olvidados (1950) - Luis Buñuel \r\n\r\nEl compadre Mendoza (1933) - Fernando de Fuentes & Juan Bustillo Oro \r\n\r\nAventurera (1949) - Alberto Gout \r\n\r\n5. Una familia de tantas (1948) - Alejandro Galindo \r\n\r\nNazarín (1958) - Luis Buñuel \r\n\r\nÉl / This Strange Passion (1952) - Luis Buñuel \r\n\r\nLa mujer del puerto / The Woman of the Port (1933) - Arcady Boytler \r\n\r\nEl lugar sin límites / The Place Without Limits (1977) - Arturo Ripstein \r\n\r\n10. Ahí está el detalle / You\'re Missing the Point (1940) - Juan Bustillo Oro \r\n_________________________________________________________ \r\n\r\n11. Campeón sin corona (1945) - Alejandro Galindo \r\n\r\nEnamorada (1946) - Emilio Fernández \r\n\r\nPueblerina (1948) - Emilio Fernández \r\n\r\nCanoa (1975) - Felipe Cazals \r\n\r\n15. Los hermanos del Hierro (1961) - Ismael Rodríguez \r\n\r\nEl ángel exterminador / The Exterminating Angel (1962) - Luis Buñuel \r\n\r\nCadena perpetua / Life Sentence (1978) - Arturo Ripstein \r\n\r\nEl rey del barrio / The King of the Neighborhood (1949) - Gilberto Martínez Solares \r\n\r\nEl esqueleto de la señora Morales / The Skeleton of Mrs. Morales (1959) - Rogelio A. González \r\n\r\n20. Víctimas del pecado (1950) - Emilio Fernández \r\n______________________________________________ \r\n\r\n21. Tiburoneros (1962) de Luis Alcoriza \r\nDistinto amanecer (1943) de Julio Bracho \r\nRo Escondido (1947) de Emilio Fernndez \r\nLa oveja negra (1949) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\n25. La otra (1946) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\nReed, Mxico insurgente (1970) de Paul Leduc \r\nNosotros los pobres (1947) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\nSaln Mxico (1948) de Emilio Fernndez \r\nDoa Perfecta (1950) de Alejandro Galindo \r\n30. Flor silvestre (1943) de Emilio Fernndez \r\n\r\n31. La pasin segn Berenice (1975) de Jaime Humberto Hermosillo \r\nLa sombra del caudillo (1960) de Julio Bracho \r\nCalabacitas tiernas (Ay qu bonitas piernas!) (1948) de Gilberto Martnez Solares \r\nDos tipos de cuidado (1952) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\n35. El vampiro (1957) de Fernando Mndez \r\nLa barraca (1944) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\nMara Candelaria (Xochimilco) (1943) de Emilio Fernndez \r\nEl suavecito (1950) de Fernando Mndez \r\nLa diosa arrodillada (1947) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\n40. Los confines (1987) de Mitl Valdez \r\n\r\n41. El gallo de oro (1964) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\nEl Topo (1969) de Alexandro Jodorowsky \r\nSensualidad (1950) de Alberto Gout \r\nEl grito (1968) de Leobardo Lpez Aretche \r\n45. Danzn (1991) de Mara Novaro \r\nSusana (Carne y demonio) (1950) de Luis Buuel \r\nEnsayo de un crimen (1955) de Luis Buuel \r\nTlayucan (1961) de Luis Alcoriza \r\nLadrn de cadveres (1956) de Fernando Mndez \r\n50. Frida, naturaleza viva (1983) de Paul Leduc \r\n\r\n51. Los tres huastecos (1948) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\nEl bulto (1991) de Gabriel Retes \r\nMara de mi corazn (1979) de Jaime Humberto Hermosillo \r\nLa noche avanza (1951) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\n55. A. T. M. A toda mquina! (1951) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\nComo agua para chocolate (1992) de Alfonso Arau \r\nMxico de mis recuerdos (1943) de Juan Bustillo Oro \r\nLos caifanes (1966) de Juan Ibez \r\nMacario (1959) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\n60. El apando (1975) de Felipe Cazals \r\n\r\n61. Cabeza de Vaca (1990) de Nicols Echevarra \r\nJuego de mentiras (1967) de Archibaldo Burns \r\nRosauro Castro (1950) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\nEsquina bajan...! (1948) de Alejandro Galindo \r\n65. Doa Herlinda y su hijo (1984) de Jaime Humberto Hermosillo \r\nTorero (1956) de Carlos Velo \r\nSanta (1931) de Antonio Moreno \r\nGngsters contra charros (1947) de Juan Orol \r\nLa mujer de Benjamn (1991) de Carlos Carrera \r\n70. En la palma de tu mano (1950) de Roberto Gavaldn \r\n\r\n71. Matine (1976) de Jaime Humberto Hermosillo \r\nAmor a la vuelta de la esquina (1985) de Alberto Corts \r\nDoa Diabla (1949) de Tito Davison \r\nMecnica nacional (1971) de Luis Alcoriza \r\n75. Doa Brbara (1943) de Fernando de Fuentes \r\nLos motivos de Luz (1985) de Felipe Cazals \r\nCronos (1992) de Guillermo del Toro \r\nngel de fuego (1991) de Dana Rotberg \r\nLuponini (El terror de Chicago) (1935) de Jos Bohr \r\n80. La perla (1945) de Emilio Fernndez \r\n\r\n81. Nocaut (1983) de Jos Luis Garca Agraz \r\nSanta (1943) de Norman Foster y Alfredo Gmez de la Vega \r\nLos tres Garca (1946) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\nguila o sol (1937) de Arcady Boytler \r\n85. El baisano Jalil (1942) de Joaqun Pardav \r\nJanitzio (1934) de Carlos Navarro \r\nSlo con tu pareja (1991) de Alfonso Cuarn \r\nViento negro (1964) de Servando Gonzlez \r\nAll en el Rancho Grande (1936) de Fernando de Fuentes \r\n90. Historia de un gran amor (1942) de Julio Bracho \r\n\r\n91. Escuela de vagabundos (1954) de Rogelio A. Gonzlez \r\nLa malquerida (1949) de Emilio Fernndez \r\nLas abandonadas (1944) de Emilio Fernndez \r\nDos monjes (1934) de Juan Bustillo Oro \r\n95. La ilusin viaja en tranva (1953) de Luis Buuel \r\nLa Cucaracha (1958) de Ismael Rodrguez \r\nEspaldas mojadas (1953) de Alejandro Galindo \r\nEl automvil gris (1919) de Enrique Rosas, Joaqun Coss y Juan Canals de Homs \r\nUna carta de amor (1943) de Miguel Zacaras \r\n100. Naufragio (1977) de Jaime Humberto Hermosillo','aca50f0a05d568854f12706e80775907',0,'','0kj3y9Cp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7143,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196423880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Interesting although this points to the idea that Mexico only had about 10 feature filmmakers. Wish it were a little more up to date, but seeing how I could stand to know more about Mexican cinema I\'ll have to make some references to this.','ed47b55973241c8541b7c6688766d7b8',0,'','gAwoWe0S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7144,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1196423880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Interesting although this points to the idea that Mexico only had about 10 feature filmmakers. Wish it were a little more up to date, but seeing how I could stand to know more about Mexican cinema I\'ll have to make some references to this.','ed47b55973241c8541b7c6688766d7b8',0,'','KlTNjFfz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7145,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202001120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','This is very interesting (though difficult to read now...). I haven\'t heard of most of the films and directors. Do you have an idea where some of the films are available, arsaib? The Berlinale will screen some Mexican films from the 30s this year, along with the work of Bunuel. Hopefully I\'ll see some of those.','b1745e0e44a5bbed005f75191c31c206',0,'','8gm3vAjE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7146,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202001120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','This is very interesting (though difficult to read now...). I haven\'t heard of most of the films and directors. Do you have an idea where some of the films are available, arsaib? The Berlinale will screen some Mexican films from the 30s this year, along with the work of Bunuel. Hopefully I\'ll see some of those.','b1745e0e44a5bbed005f75191c31c206',0,'','8voSUnr4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7147,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202019540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','If you like, I\'ll add the English/U.S. titles as we get things in order here. Do you know which Mexican films are being screened? The full-schedule must be out by now. A number of these films are available in Mexico and Spain. Anything specific in mind? But English subtitles aren\'t an option in most cases.','7a90c4300f3aa8a451cb64e049395dd7',0,'','Cb7Jxils',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7148,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202019540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','If you like, I\'ll add the English/U.S. titles as we get things in order here. Do you know which Mexican films are being screened? The full-schedule must be out by now. A number of these films are available in Mexico and Spain. Anything specific in mind? But English subtitles aren\'t an option in most cases.','7a90c4300f3aa8a451cb64e049395dd7',0,'','FRaeCrdx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7149,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202041140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','The English titles would be a welcome addition. \r\n\r\nApart from nearly all of Bunuel\'s Mexican films, and some recent movies, the old titles at the Berlinale will be one Mexican, and three  Spanish  contributions from the 30s on which Bunuel had some input. I thought they were all Mexican - my mistake: \r\n\r\nSi usted no puede, yo sí  (Julián Soler / 1951 / Mexico) \r\nDon Quintín el amargao  \"Don Quintin the Bitter\" (Luis Marquina / 1935 / Spain) \r\nLa hija de Juan Simón  \"Juan Simon\'s Daughter\" (José Luis Sáenz de Heredia, Nemesio M. Sobrevila / 1935 / Spain) \r\nQuién me quiere a mi  \"Who Loves Me?\" ( José Luis Sáenz de Heredia / 1936 / Spain) \r\n\r\nthere will also be a Jean Grémillon film which Bunuel supposedly co-directed: \r\n¡Centinela alerta!  \" Guard! Alert!  \" (1937 / Spain) \r\n\r\nThe complete Berlinale schedule is out by now, and you can also browse all titles by country.  \r\n\r\nWhich of the 100 listed films would you recommend, or which ones are available with English subtitles? I haven\'t anything specific in mind, as I have to catch up with the whole of Mexican cinema, of which I couldn\'t have seen more than half a dozen films, until now.','a013f06a4b520a98b00a2a79e12e03c2',0,'','LK3prNWm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7150,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202041140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','The English titles would be a welcome addition. \r\n\r\nApart from nearly all of Bunuel\'s Mexican films, and some recent movies, the old titles at the Berlinale will be one Mexican, and three  Spanish  contributions from the 30s on which Bunuel had some input. I thought they were all Mexican - my mistake: \r\n\r\nSi usted no puede, yo sí  (Julián Soler / 1951 / Mexico) \r\nDon Quintín el amargao  \"Don Quintin the Bitter\" (Luis Marquina / 1935 / Spain) \r\nLa hija de Juan Simón  \"Juan Simon\'s Daughter\" (José Luis Sáenz de Heredia, Nemesio M. Sobrevila / 1935 / Spain) \r\nQuién me quiere a mi  \"Who Loves Me?\" ( José Luis Sáenz de Heredia / 1936 / Spain) \r\n\r\nthere will also be a Jean Grémillon film which Bunuel supposedly co-directed: \r\n¡Centinela alerta!  \" Guard! Alert!  \" (1937 / Spain) \r\n\r\nThe complete Berlinale schedule is out by now, and you can also browse all titles by country.  \r\n\r\nWhich of the 100 listed films would you recommend, or which ones are available with English subtitles? I haven\'t anything specific in mind, as I have to catch up with the whole of Mexican cinema, of which I couldn\'t have seen more than half a dozen films, until now.','a013f06a4b520a98b00a2a79e12e03c2',0,'','MJ8w1rV5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7151,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206778440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','\r\n\r\nOkay, I\'ve finally updated the top ten, so far, with English titles when appropriate. DVD info to come. Lamentably, there\'s a lot of misinformation available online so one has to be careful (for instance, the directorial credits for El compadre Mendoza). But I\'ve let the release years, which just may be the completion years you prefer, stand as they are.\r\n\r\nHere\'s my meager Mexican Cinema Classics thread, though one with reviews of two of the top four on the list. More reviews to come, especially of those films that belong to the \"Golden Age.\"\r\n\r\nI\'m sure you, and most others, are well familiar with the three Buñuels, so let me make a special mention for Ripstein\'s masterpiece, El lugar sin límites / The Place Without Limits, a film maudit of sorts which rips into the culture of machismo often celebrated in Mexican cinema. Frankly, you can do worse than tracking down any Ripstein film you can. Unless there\'s a Mexican Naruse who\'s yet to be discovered, he just may be the best filmmaker the country has produced so far. And he\'s only 64. Some notes in the Ripstein thread.','ebb4e9d913e470c32a96365c2c9dda5e',0,'','BKrWyh97',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7152,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206778440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','\r\n\r\nOkay, I\'ve finally updated the top ten, so far, with English titles when appropriate. DVD info to come. Lamentably, there\'s a lot of misinformation available online so one has to be careful (for instance, the directorial credits for El compadre Mendoza). But I\'ve let the release years, which just may be the completion years you prefer, stand as they are.\r\n\r\nHere\'s my meager Mexican Cinema Classics thread, though one with reviews of two of the top four on the list. More reviews to come, especially of those films that belong to the \"Golden Age.\"\r\n\r\nI\'m sure you, and most others, are well familiar with the three Buñuels, so let me make a special mention for Ripstein\'s masterpiece, El lugar sin límites / The Place Without Limits, a film maudit of sorts which rips into the culture of machismo often celebrated in Mexican cinema. Frankly, you can do worse than tracking down any Ripstein film you can. Unless there\'s a Mexican Naruse who\'s yet to be discovered, he just may be the best filmmaker the country has produced so far. And he\'s only 64. Some notes in the Ripstein thread.','ebb4e9d913e470c32a96365c2c9dda5e',0,'','B9Ap3qSw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7153,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206804120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Doc Films is showing Classic Mexican cinema next quarter so when the schedule is officially released I\'ll check with this.','d0c516b716d1bee4a0ba5ac495b6113e',0,'','a2RUwBeJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7154,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206804120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Doc Films is showing Classic Mexican cinema next quarter so when the schedule is officially released I\'ll check with this.','d0c516b716d1bee4a0ba5ac495b6113e',0,'','mwuntDy1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7155,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206848160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Great! And feel free to either add a link or copy/paste the schedule. It\'ll be interesting to check out the selections (though print availability is always an important factor in these cases).','3fa3ca4fd5ae0b5fbbe4a016448a10f2',0,'','kz4Ew6gj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7156,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206848160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Great! And feel free to either add a link or copy/paste the schedule. It\'ll be interesting to check out the selections (though print availability is always an important factor in these cases).','3fa3ca4fd5ae0b5fbbe4a016448a10f2',0,'','JE7DMVBC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7157,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206853080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','La Llorna (1933) \r\nEl Fantasma del Convento (1934) \r\nDos Monjes (1934) \r\nLa Mujer del Puerto (1933) \r\nVamonos con Pancho Villa (1935) \r\nAlla en el Rancho Grande (1936) \r\nLa Mancha de Sangre (1937) \r\nLa Zandunga (1937) \r\nMaria Candelaria (1943) \r\nDistinto Amancer (1943)','ba29b86f30278a182a971efe06085bd7',0,'','nXVjgaoC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7158,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1206853080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','La Llorna (1933) \r\nEl Fantasma del Convento (1934) \r\nDos Monjes (1934) \r\nLa Mujer del Puerto (1933) \r\nVamonos con Pancho Villa (1935) \r\nAlla en el Rancho Grande (1936) \r\nLa Mancha de Sangre (1937) \r\nLa Zandunga (1937) \r\nMaria Candelaria (1943) \r\nDistinto Amancer (1943)','ba29b86f30278a182a971efe06085bd7',0,'','7g2qzwTK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7159,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207212180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Keep in mind that La mujer del puerto, Vámonos con Pancho Villa, Allá en el Rancho Grande and María Candelaria are all available on subtitled DVDs.','46556bc5477e0a21586c6910748b53be',0,'','2cg0w63t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7160,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207212180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Keep in mind that La mujer del puerto, Vámonos con Pancho Villa, Allá en el Rancho Grande and María Candelaria are all available on subtitled DVDs.','46556bc5477e0a21586c6910748b53be',0,'','8uE9lNS4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7161,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207213260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','We\'ll see what, if anything I can catch.','009bf3a07a5ce62fdf238ea432138aa8',0,'','Y6pPywaF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7162,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207213260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','We\'ll see what, if anything I can catch.','009bf3a07a5ce62fdf238ea432138aa8',0,'','UzkQr3Fv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7163,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207364460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Feel free to share your thoughts in the Mexican Cinema thread if you get to any of \'em.','cb5790f5b392632f35a08fa343a1729f',0,'','dZCDNKxU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7164,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207364460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Feel free to share your thoughts in the Mexican Cinema thread if you get to any of \'em.','cb5790f5b392632f35a08fa343a1729f',0,'','nudkr5X4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7165,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207364820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','They\'re showing on a day I don\'t have class, but it\'s also a very long drive.','268ffe18e7d061d490ac228f698bd70f',0,'','n8dea0bM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7166,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1207364820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','They\'re showing on a day I don\'t have class, but it\'s also a very long drive.','268ffe18e7d061d490ac228f698bd70f',0,'','zZXNd9c1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7167,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1208061240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Updated 11 to 20.','fae3c65f66a01ed15cc6818d1bfa05d8',0,'','gwL4pfU1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7168,1521,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1208061240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Somos\' 100 Best Mexican Films','Updated 11 to 20.','fae3c65f66a01ed15cc6818d1bfa05d8',0,'','ySrjU9QR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7169,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186778880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','75 Hidden Gems.\r\n\r\nSight & Sound celebrated its 75th birthday by asking critics from around the world to nominate their favourite overlooked masterpiece. The result: 75 lost films you just have to track down \r\n\r\nCritics names in bold\r\n\r\nThe selected films in alphabetical order:\r\n\r\nKent Jones\r\nThe Actress (1953) George Cukor, US\r\n\r\nGilbert Adair\r\nAdieu Philippine (1962) Jacques Rozier, France\r\n\r\nJonathan Rosenbaum\r\nThe Adventure of Hajji Baba (1954) Don Weis, US\r\n\r\nNasreen Munni Kabir\r\nAndaz (1949) Mehboob Khan, India\r\n\r\nDan Fainaru\r\nAvanti Popolo (1986) Rafi Bukai, Israel\r\n\r\nNaman Ramachandran\r\nBaksa Badal (1965) Nityananda Dutta, India\r\n\r\nJean-Michel Frodon\r\nBari Zogon (1996) Watanabe Fumiki, Japan\r\n\r\nNick Roddick\r\nBlow Out (1981) Brian De Palma, US\r\n\r\nGinette Vincendeau\r\nChaos (2001) Coline Serreau, France\r\n\r\nTom Mes\r\nCrazy Thunder Road (1980) Ishii Sogo, Japan\r\n\r\nDavid Thompson\r\nDeep End (1970) Jerzy Skolimowski, Germany\r\n\r\nRoger Clarke\r\nDocteur Jekyll et les Femmes (1981) Walerian Borowczyk, France\r\n\r\nFernanda Solrzano\r\nEl (1953) Luis Bunuel, Mexico\r\n\r\nChris Darke\r\nElle est des Notres (2003) Siegrid Alnoy, France\r\n\r\nAli Jaafar\r\nForce of Evil (1948) Abraham Polonsky, US\r\n\r\nPhilip Kemp\r\nFunny Dirty Little War (1983) Hector Olivera, Argentina\r\n\r\nRoy Armes\r\nThe Girl from Carthage (1924) Albert Samama Chikly, Tunisia\r\n\r\nB. Ruby Rich\r\nThe Gold Diggers (1983) Sally Potter, UK\r\n\r\nLinda Ruth Williams\r\nGrace of My Heart (1996) Allison Anders, US\r\n\r\nChuck Stephens\r\nGrounded God (1975) Prince Chatri Chalerm Yukol aka Tan Mui, Thailand\r\n\r\nKim Newman\r\nHustle (1975) Robert Aldrich, US\r\n\r\nMark Cousins\r\nThe Insect Woman (1963) Imamura Shohei, Japan\r\n\r\nPeter Hames\r\nIntimate Lighting (1965) Ivan Passer, Czechoslovakia\r\n\r\nDemetrios Matheou\r\nIracema - Uma Transa Amazionica (1976) Jorge Bodanzky and Orlando Senna, Brazil\r\n\r\nKong Rithdee\r\nKhon Jorn (1999) Attaporn Thihirun, Thailand\r\n\r\nMichael Chanan\r\nKukuli (1961) Luis Figueroa, Eulogio Nishiyama and Cesar Villanueva, Peru\r\n\r\nGraham Fuller\r\nThe Last of the Mohicans (1920) Maurice Tourneur and Clarence L Brown, US\r\n\r\nDerek Malcolm\r\nLBJ (1968) Santiago Alvarez, Cuba\r\n\r\nKenneth Turan\r\nLeolo (1992) Jean-Claude Lauzon, Canada\r\n\r\nSukhdev Sandhu\r\nLeo the Last (1969) John Boorman, UK\r\n\r\nJames Quandt\r\nThe Mad Fox (1962) Tomu Uchida, Japan\r\n\r\nColin MacCabe\r\nThe Magic Face (1951) Frank Tuttle, US\r\n\r\nRobin Wood\r\nMake Way for Tomorrow (1937) Leo McCarey, US\r\n\r\nLeonardo Gardia Tsao\r\nLa Mancha de Sangre (1943) Adolfo Best Maugard, Mexico\r\n\r\nTony Rayns\r\nMandala (1981) Im Kwon Taek, South Korea\r\n\r\nMike Atkinson\r\nMarketa Lazarova (1965) Frantisek Vlacil, Czechoslovakia\r\n\r\nEdward Crouse\r\nModel Shop (1969) Jacques Demy, US\r\n\r\nAlexis A. Tioseco\r\nThe Moises Padilla Story (1961) Gerardo de Leon, US\r\n\r\nOlaf Mller\r\nMonpti (1957) Helmut Kaeutner, Germany\r\n\r\nKeith Shiri\r\nMuna Motto (1975) Jean-Pierre Dikongue-Pipa, Cameroon\r\n\r\nBrad Stevens\r\nNew Rose Hotel (1998) Abel Ferrara, US\r\n\r\nHamid Dabashi\r\nThe Night it Rained (1967) Kamran Sheerdel, Iran\r\n\r\nChristoph Huber\r\nParis 1900 (1948) Nicole Vedres, France\r\n\r\nSandra Hebron\r\nPatti Rocks (1987) David Burton Morris, US\r\n\r\nPeter Matthews\r\nPeter Ibbetson (1935) Henry Hathaway, US\r\n\r\nPatrick Macias\r\nThe Phynx (1970) Lee H Katzin, US\r\n\r\nCharlotte Garcon\r\nLe Plein de Super (1976) Alain Cavalier, France\r\n\r\nCatherine Wheatley\r\nLes Pont des Arts (2004) Eugene Green, France\r\n\r\nKieron Coreless\r\nThe Pumpkin Eater (1964) Jack Clayton, UK\r\n\r\nRichard T. Kelly\r\nQueimada! (1968) Gillo Pontecorvo, Italy/France\r\n\r\nMaria Delgado\r\nRaise Ravens (1975) Carlos Saura, Spain\r\n\r\nTadao Sato\r\nThe River Fuefuki (1960) Kinoshita Keisuke, Japan\r\n\r\nAndrew Osmond\r\nLe Roi et lOiseau (1980) Paul Grimault, France\r\n\r\nTim Lucas\r\nLe Roman de Renard (1931) Ladislaw Starewicz, France\r\n\r\nIan Christie\r\nThe Ruling Class (1971) Peter Medak, UK\r\n\r\nMark Kermode\r\nSilent Running (1971) Douglas Trumbull, US\r\n\r\nMark Le Fanu\r\nSilver Wind (1954) Vaclav Krska, Czechoslovakia\r\n\r\nMark Sinker\r\nSir Henry at Rawlinson End (1980) Steve Roberts, UK\r\n\r\nAngelike Contis\r\nStill Looking for Morphine (2001) Yannis Fagras, Greece\r\n\r\nTim Robey\r\nStir of Echoes (1999) David Koepp, US\r\n\r\nRyan Gilbey\r\nStraight Talk (1992) Barnet Kellman, US\r\n\r\nEdward Buscombe\r\nThe Street with No Name (1948) William Keighley, US\r\n\r\nTom Charity\r\nSubarnarekha (1965) Ritwik Ghatak, India\r\n\r\nGeoffrey MacNab\r\nSunday (1997) Jonathan Nossiter, US\r\n\r\nAdrian Martin\r\nSuperstar (1999) Bruce McCulloch, US\r\n\r\nJulian Graffy\r\nThe Swimmer (1982) Irakli Kvirkadze, USSR \r\n\r\nMichael Brooke\r\nSzindbad (1972) Zoltan Huszarik, Hungary\r\n\r\nPam Cook\r\nTerminal Island (1973) Stephanie Rothman, US\r\n\r\nNoel Vera\r\nThree Years Without God (1977) Mario OHara, Philippines\r\n\r\nDavid Thomson\r\nTrack of the Cat (1954) William A Wellman, US\r\n\r\nJonathan Romney\r\nTrans-Europ-Express (1966) Alain Robbe-Grillet, France\r\n\r\nJ. Hoberman\r\nUncle Moses (1932) Sidney M Goldin, US\r\n\r\nAmy Taubin\r\nWanda (1970) Barbara Loden, US\r\n\r\nGuido Bonsaver\r\nWest and Soda (1965) Bruno Bozzetto, Italy\r\n\r\nGeoff Andrew\r\nWhite Dog (1981) Samuel Fuller, US\r\n\r\nSome surprising choices I\'m sure you\'ll agree, quite a few I haven\'t had the opportunity to see. A lot of U.S. movies whereas I would have expected a broader choice nationality wise. \r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','fd20d040c3aaa6cbe135f4bd98a5de9d',0,'','kulY2hzK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7170,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186784040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','They weren\'t joking about \"hidden\" half of those films I\'ve never heard of. A couple of films that I\'ve seen on several lists but still can\'t find, but certainly a little more interesting than the usual Rules of the Game, Potemkin, Kane ass kissing fest that most of these lists turn out to be.','85dcf4d0a8af7e20811e5d4d9ccd4daf',0,'','J1yTCt34',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7171,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186799460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','An extremely interesting list. Since I like some of the choices (let\'s let Intimate Lighting slide) I might be compelled to track down the ones I\'ve yet to see. Among recent films, I couldn\'t be happier about the inclusion of Le Pont des Arts, a \"Hidden Gem\" of the highest order -- directed by Eugne Green, who I love. Also pleasantly surprised regarding Alnoy\'s Elle est des ntres, a film I briefly wrote about under its English title, She\'s One of Us.','e6a878d6c46a84e84620b1e9bb4d9f67',0,'','VqtS2pbg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7172,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186802520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','From this list I\'ve only seen:\r\n\r\nEl (1953) Luis Bunuel, Mexico\r\n\r\nForce of Evil (1948) Abraham Polonsky, US\r\n\r\nGrace of My Heart (1996) Allison Anders, US\r\n\r\nThe Insect Woman (1963) Imamura Shohei, Japan\r\n\r\nIntimate Lighting (1965) Ivan Passer, Czechoslovakia\r\n\r\nLeolo (1992) Jean-Claude Lauzon, Canada\r\n\r\nPeter Ibbetson (1935) Henry Hathaway, US\r\n\r\nThe Ruling Class (1971) Peter Medak, UK\r\n\r\nThe Street with No Name (1948) William Keighley, US\r\n\r\nWanda (1970) Barbara Loden, US\r\n\r\nWhite Dog (1981) Samuel Fuller, US\r\n\r\nGood lord I have some work to do. Of the above Force of Evil and White Dog are probably the best, the latter much more deserving of being \"discovered\" because its never been released on video or DVD. Definitely have some work to do, and I\'ll go through this to see what\'s actually available here.','b50b4e61afb0aa0d299cf88168503df7',0,'','CGF7xXsV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7173,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186844220,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I should spank myself (or preferably ask some nice girl to do it!) a couple of the Brit flicks have been screened recently on T.V. including The Pumpkin Eater (1964), and I\'ve missed them.\r\n\r\nRe: Intimate Lighting, when I saw it on the list I thought I should add it to my extensive list of must see films, from your comment arsaib4, I can only assume that\'s not the case. \r\n\r\nTo see, or not to see? That is the question.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.\r\n\r\nP.S. The biggest surprise to me was seeing Stir of Echoes (1999) listed, not exactly hidden or imho, a gem.','b1f14ce04a9da76e0e9999a1ec92e4b3',0,'','4na8F15f',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7174,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186878480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Oh, so now Trevor adds in the critics (he should definitely be spanked by a nice girl), and not just run-of-the-mill ones either. I guess I should\'ve figured that a such a list couldn\'t have come from writers and directors.\r\n\r\nIntimate Lighting is a nice little film but me and wpqx believe that it doesn\'t quite deserve its \"one of the best films of the 60\'s\" moniker. I think the work has definitely benefitted from when it was released. It\'s possible that if I were to watch it again, I might appreciate it more.\r\n\r\nMller and Hoberman\'s selections are certainly ones I\'d like to track down.','056966ed8efbed82c53365f8237a90a3',0,'','vpefMbJj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7175,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186880520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Sorry but it was a lot of work and I didn\'t have a great deal of time. I was hoping that Sight & Sound would put the list online but it didn\'t happen. \r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','b38e5a7e78fe16ec6ac52cd9902b00aa',0,'','au1qxhmj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7176,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186901400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','If I\'m not mistaken, the list was included in the August issue (I briefly browsed S&S at a book store; I don\'t subscribe to any film magazines anymore). Truly appreciate your effort, Trevor, especially if it wasn\'t made available online.','5acc5fe5b07b45a1f4e7dffcad5461a5',0,'','VSsvHy8m',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7177,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186901760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'justindeimen','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I\'ve only ever seen Leolo and Stir of Echoes on that list.\r\n\r\nHow annoying.','db731bae1e384b7a926b35b506bf6f2f',0,'','UVaFJWT9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7178,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187040240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Well, i\'d most like to see Marketa Lazarova + Mandala. \r\n\r\nOf the 16 i\'ve seen, Subarnarekha is the best; marvellous use of space + nature by Ghatak, the inventive left-wing Bengali director. It has some late nocturnal expressionist scenes that may bring to mind Cloud-Capped Star. I do find Bijon Bhattacharya, who played the father in the latter and the paternal friend in Subarnarekha, irritating; i suppose Ghatak picked him for parts, as his playwright friend from their challenging theatre days. Ghatak could be uneven, but made interesting use of lighting + sound. El is probably underrated Bunuel, a tale of male obsession + jealousy. Still, most of the 16 i wouldn\'t class as gems.\r\n\r\nSight + Sound is still too Anglo-American orientated for my lking.','9e431b0640d836d8c561b96ff152d0f0',0,'','9Yv0bVfG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7179,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1188475800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'chard09','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','A pity -- I have only seen one. \r\n\r\nNoel Vera is Mario O\'Hara\'s biggest admirer. That man really loves his films. As for Three Years Without (A) God, it is indeed beautiful, groundbreaking, and rare (the Japanese not as villains).\r\n\r\nToo bad i haven\'t even seen Alexis Tioseco\'s pick. (Got surprised that Moises Padilla Story is from the US)','7a23cde56158f098c7cbc21b25ea20c9',0,'','wlvGTtVX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7180,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1188522540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Thanks for your effort Trevor. \r\n\r\nThe list is very interesting, though I wouldn\'t call all of them hidden. \r\n\r\nI\'ve read about half of them, and am looking forward to a couple for some time already. Most interesting are of course the ones I\'ve never heard of. Nice to see Borowczyk listed with one of his supposedly best films. \r\n\r\nI\'ve only seen three from the list:\r\n\r\nRaise Ravens (1975) Carlos Saura, Spain\r\nLe Roman de Renard (1931) Ladislaw Starewicz, France\r\nSubarnarekha (1965) Ritwik Ghatak, India\r\n\r\nNone of those is \"hidden\" in my opinion, but they are definitely gems. Raise Ravens is a masterpiece in my book, and Subarnarekha isn\'t far behind. Le roman de Renard is a classic and a must see as well. Three first rate artists who aren\'t unknowns...\r\n\r\nDidn\'t know Monpti is loved by Mller. I\'ll try and check it out. But first I\'ll ask a friend of mine who is a bit of an expert on (West) German films from the 50s and 60s. We actually tried to get a copy for a screening in September at our cinema, but it didn\'t work out.','9a8d2a805cbaa9b2fd8ce818f97d7298',0,'','rgR2XGEw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7181,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1188524760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Needless to say, I\'m also quite interested in Mller\'s selection. If you find anything, A, please share.','79a9520c01c8c321a0d375eb2b25e237',0,'','9iG8ZYD7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7182,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189808040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I\'ll see what i can find out.','5bb6241216ec24ffd1792995a0edbf21',0,'','48nmfS7r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7183,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189830060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Vlcil\'s Marketa Lazarov, which John is also interested in, was scheduled to appear on DVD in the U.K. Not sure if anything has transpired yet. If I remember correctly, someone here (Madhuban?) wasn\'t overly impressed by it.','13d8e0cfb5b62ddd288fd89d82032554',0,'','UyEMR8Dd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7184,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189991880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Yes, she sad something along the lines of having expected more. Although she might have still been impressed. Too bad she isn\'t around at the moment. I have to see Lazarov too.\r\nSigh... - So many films, so little time','01a8d8e1b4d5eab0765e7e1b58817483',0,'','qrzbeg4X',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7185,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190013600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Well the film does have a bit of a reputation and sometimes the higher the praise the greater the disappointment. Its very high on my list of films to see. I\'ve seen two films from Vlacil and enjoyed both of them.','56efa653b82a91b8d8518b329d178bf5',0,'','KQ7PybdX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7186,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1194592260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Numerous U.K. sites have listed Marketa Lazarov as a Nov 26 release.','3958d9894ba49d8ec4878fd4da96d57f',0,'','BJTgCVKs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7187,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195207080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','PLEASE LORD JESUS BE RELEASED IN THE US.','43cea077b97a381e2a090ff9e3a2e274',0,'','6EyemB7M',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7188,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195287000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Practically speaking, your Facets is our best bet. They already have a decent library of Czechoslovak New Wave films.','5cd9fd8814293add9a76bc3bc39ad93d',0,'','Zn6ek58B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7189,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195374000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I\'ve been constantly bugging them about Marketa for nearly a year now. They did release Vlacil\'s Valley of the Bees however and that was a treasure to behold.','ff2dd83e2791833d5f24cd0684903e27',0,'','rNfLjTli',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7190,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195376700,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','It certainly was. I\'ve also liked The White Dove and Adelheid from him. But Marketa is simply regarded as one of the greatest ever produced by the nation.','75cf51a5203cf8ca65c016df98768fce',0,'','YKzGEL7R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7191,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195410240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','The greatest by one source. Haven\'t seen The White Dove is it available?','0064f0aefe85e5da5e141bcb0131a165',0,'','N21gH4Yl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7192,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195465680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Yes, on DVD from Facets. \r\n\r\nAnd speaking of the Chicago-based distributor, it will be soon be releasing another New Wave film on DVD. The NW in question is Argentinean and the film is Los Muertos, which made my Best Undistributed list of \'06. It\'s ultra-minimal, but you know where I stand in regards to that. Coming out on Jan 29th.','25bed01904bbeed8df9a7f54c2be0415',0,'','y9CAlLjN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7193,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195470420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Sounds familiar, glad to hear it.','29e871370a7f081d75e5e86d610a18a9',0,'','3Qn9rK85',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7194,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195551480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I believe it played at the Facets Cinmathque a few months back. Speaking of which, are you taking any classes there right now?','2150758532f1eaf61471330d973fa8a7',0,'','zNAFBGSW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7195,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195685580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Marketa hasn\'t played at Facets for over a year at least. I\'m not taking anything at Facets. They actually told me if I give them a good enough idea for a class I can teach one myself. I have a two week course starting Monday that\'s going to suck and drive me nuts, then I can enjoy my break and hopefully finish this director month.','6f057e6196c849adc30e2498a05e3734',0,'','HwQ4MPNS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7196,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195720020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I was referring to the Argentinean film. And it looks like Marketa has been delayed a week. \r\n\r\nYou should consider their offer if you can find the time. It would only add to your resume.','1593589f8024242dcbe2b26025ce8e88',0,'','M2b1rJsW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7197,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195747260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Ah but what to teach?','d550702e79fe1d5866b9d562ca9cf605',0,'','W9PYXTCL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7198,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195810020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Something involving Academy Award nominees.','27c42fa9e425ca6bc7ffaabd32d500ce',0,'','s32deop9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7199,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1195824060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Well it appears to be the subject I know the most about.','a42369dcdc821e994e5833cc37e4b546',0,'','3gCUuavW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7200,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204027860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Well, I now have Mr. Möller\'s selection in my possession (Helmut Käutner\'s Monpti), but it doesn\'t contain English subtitles. I wish I could utilize the services of A and R6...','777fedcfe1e08b5f629d683437eb0697',0,'','TeptrhYS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7201,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204030620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Well I missed my chance to see Model Shop in a theater a few weeks ago. I would like to see some films from Kautner sometime before I die.','fb8ab8a192a54dc40dbfacd52e26e833',0,'','tjbsxF5m',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7202,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204034400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I feel sort of adressed, arsaib. \r\n\r\nSubtitling German Films in English appeared as an attractive thought in my mind many times in the past because so many grand but unknown gems aren\'t available international. I even thought about doing the same thing with \"Confessions of a Police Captain\" for you because you absolutely must see it, now that you learned to like Damiani. However, I haven\'t got the technical skills (a friend of mine and A has, though) and my English isn\'t the best but as I would love to try this out myself (another cinematic challenge...), why not with the wonderful \"Montpti\"? Maybe I\'ll give it a try... but don\'t anticipate anything, this is just a vague deliberation of mine. * \r\n\r\nWhich version do you have? The German DVD from Kinowelt or a VHS? \r\n\r\n* The Index of English subtitled German DVDs of German Films isn\'t nearly as vague though it\'ll take more time, I\'m afraid. But when I started with it I soon though that it would be necessary to deliver brief descriptions of the films, as well as the IMDb-Links and so on. Maybe, my web access will be finally fixed some time this year...','6cc3b6c1dfa4b4ed81d5e2b7c98bd4b4',0,'','gyZvTu8V',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7203,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204090980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','I have the VHS from Kinowelt. You guys are the best!','b3ddab440fdf2f7f534821c3d35377cf',0,'','gtGdB9zh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7204,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204172760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','Let\'s see if A is interested too. I\'d need the help of somebody whose English skills are more compending than mine. If I\'d only have more time left... I\'ll probably start to work as a projectionist in the only Cinema of Nuremberg that shows only Original Versions next week and it seems as it will be very rough because there is plenty more work to do than I expected. But at least, I\'ll probably see some more new Hollywood Films in the original version instead dubbed which would be a fortune if the selections of this Cinema were any better - Currently playing: \"Charlie Wilson\'s War\", \"27 Dresses\", \"P.S. I Love You\", \"National Treasure: Book of Secrets\" (I hate Nicolas Cage...) and \"Vantage Point\".','7f9b7dba85ae7ed0392309e6bce7f882',0,'','TAlBypUc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7205,1522,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1204196340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Sight & Sound - 75 Hidden Gems.','That\'s too bad. I\'m also not interested in watching any of those films. \r\n\r\nAnd more Damiani is on the way!','f73c70b77b209fa767bfd203a3ee481b',0,'','H6MzQLdi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7206,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1194350640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','LINK\r\n\r\n1 Superstar: the Karen Carpenter Story (Todd Haynes, 1987)\r\n2 Don\'t Look Back (DA Pennebaker, 1967)\r\n3 Gimme Shelter (David Maysles/Albert Maysles/Charlotte Zwerin, 1970)\r\n4 24 Hour Party People (Michael Winterbottom, 2002)\r\n5 Topsy-Turvy (Mike Leigh, 1999)\r\n6 Monterey Pop (DA Pennebaker, 1968)\r\n7 Be Here to Love Me (Margaret Brown, 2004)\r\n8 Thirty Two Short Films about Glenn Gould (Francois Girard, 1993)\r\n9 @#%$ Blues (Robert Frank, 1972)\r\n10 Bird (Clint Eastwood, 1988)\r\n11 The Last Waltz (Martin Scorsese, 1978)\r\n12 Rude Boy (Jack Hazan, David Mingay, 1980)\r\n13 Scott Walker: 30 Century Man (Stephen Kijak, 2006)\r\n14 Bound for Glory (Hal Ashby, 1976) \r\n15 The Decline of Western Civilization Parts I & II (Penelope Spheeris, 1981, 1988)\r\n16 The Devil and Daniel Johnston (Jeff Feuerzeig, 2005)\r\n17 Sweet Dreams (Karel Reisz, 1982)\r\n18 Notes from a Jazz Survivor (Don McGlynn, 1982)\r\n19 Elgar (Ken Russell, 1962)\r\n20 Rust Never Sleeps (Neil Young, 1979)\r\n21 The Future is Unwritten (Julien Temple, 2006)\r\n22 \'DiG!\' (Ondi Timoner, 2004)\r\n23 Some Kind Of Monster (Joe Berlinger, Bruce Sinofsky, 2004) \r\n24 A Hard Day\'s Night (Richard Lester, 1964)\r\n25 Jimi Hendrix (Joe Boyd, 1973)\r\n26 Sid and Nancy (Alex Cox, 1986)\r\n27 Elvis (John Carpenter, 1979)\r\n28 The Last of the Blue Devils (Bruce Ricker, 1980)\r\n29 Rough Cut & Ready Dubbed (Hasan Shah & Dom Shaw, 1981)\r\n30 Amadeus (Milos Forman, 1984)\r\n31 Stop Making Sense (Jonathan Demme, 1984)\r\n32 Charlie is My Darling (Peter Whitehead, 1966)\r\n33 Magic Fire (William Dieterle, 1955)\r\n34 A Joyful Noise (Robert Mugge, 1980)\r\n35 Coal Miners Daughter (Michael Apted, 1980)\r\n36 Last Days (Gus Van Sant, 2006)\r\n37 Wonderful Life (Sidney J Furie, 1964)\r\n38 \'Round Midnight (Bertrand Tavernier, 1986)\r\n39 Watch the K Foundation Burn a Million Quid (Gimpo, 1995)\r\n40 The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (Danile Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub, 1968)\r\n41 Buena Vista Social Club (Wim Wenders, 1999)\r\n42 Soul to Soul (Dennis Sanders, 1971)\r\n43 Hilary and Jackie (Anand Tucker, 1998)\r\n44 Made in Sheffield (Eve Wood, 2001)\r\n45 Jazz on a Summers Day (Bert Stern, 1959)\r\n46 So You Wanna Be A Rock \'n\' Roll Star? (Mark Kidel, 1976)\r\n47 Leningrad Cowboys Go America (Aki Kaurismki, 1989)\r\n48 MC5: A True Testimonial (David C Thomas, 2002)\r\n49 Sign O The Times (Prince, 1988)\r\n50 Catch Us If You Can (John Boorman, 1965)','7eec5c2fed577e54be7701df6847faa5',0,'','CVZixwto',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7207,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1194358260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','So I\'m assuming traditional musicals were exempt? The evidence is really piling up for Todd Haynes Superstar, seems I\'m going to have to check this out soon.','e9302ef1d7c5f71b39367f7f5c273836',0,'','uJzCqKxB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7208,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1194423480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','I believe so. \"[...]were celebrating great films dramas and documentaries about real musicians. Weve polled our film and music writers for their personal favourites and looked beyond the obvious to include films about jazz, films about opera, films about Finnish polka rock and films about Gilbert and Sullivan.\"','64d068a996f8afa665e4f955a78e4ef3',0,'','Bh1np9Tx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7209,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202001540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','Great to see Prince\'s now almost forgotten Sign \'O\' The Times on the list. I once had a Brazilian DVD of it, until it got stolen... \r\n\r\nHave seen only few of the films listed, but there certainly seem to be a lot of documentaries made about musicians. I am surprised that Haynes\' Velvet Goldmine (1998) isn\'t on the list.','2cb4d94b62a43f3bc4309d89823b9a6c',0,'','Cr5ZqWzt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7210,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202075640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','I had to go over this about 5 times because I can\'t believe Woodstock isn\'t on there.','ca776347faadeb3493d8ba49e2386d24',0,'','pCoZ4nwc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7211,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202094480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','That was also my first thought. Maybe they wanted to avoid the obvious? No \"Pink Floyd in Pompeii\" or \"The Wall\", either.','7b5fef7c5cf3c4dcf803d51b8b6cddbf',0,'','80iZXVop',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7212,1523,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1202170800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: TimeOut London\'s 50 Greatest Music Films','Well the Joe Boyd Hendrix film I\'ve probably seen 200 times.','3f5c4a88da25ef106c7ca619a7916923',0,'','k4CYn9yr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7213,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1144544340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Your favorite actors and actresses','I think we had this thread way back in the old Forum \"> and I\'m trying to cheer me up right now, so I thought let\'s give it a try. It\'s not about the best performers, just the ones you always enjoy seeing on screen. \r\nI\'ll list them alphabetically by country (where they were born), as there are just too many. \r\nMaybe I\'ll make a Top list in the future \"> \r\n\r\nAlgeria \r\nDaniel Auteuil \r\n\r\nAustria \r\nErich von Stroheim \r\n\r\nCanada \r\nAnna Paquin \r\nMarie-Jose Croze \r\nSarah Polley \r\n\r\nCuba \r\nTomas Milian \r\n\r\nDenmark \r\nAnna Karina \r\nMads Mikkelsen \r\nPaprika Steen \r\nUlrich Thomsen \r\n\r\nFrance \r\nArletty \r\nBernadette Lafont \r\nCatherine Deneuve \r\nDominique Blanc \r\nFranoise Lebrun \r\nIsabelle Adjani \r\nIsabelle Huppert \r\nJean Gabin \r\nJean-Luc Godard \r\nJean-Pierre Laud \r\nJulie Delpy \r\nJuliette Binoche \r\nMichel Piccoli \r\nNathalie Richard \r\nRomane Bohringer \r\nSimone Simon \r\n\r\nGermany \r\nBrigitte Hobmeier \r\nChristiane Paul \r\nDevid Striesow \r\nJrgen Vogel \r\nKatharina Schttler \r\nMoritz Bleibtreu \r\n\r\nHong Kong \r\nLeslie Cheung \r\nMaggie Cheung \r\nTony Leung Chiu Wai \r\nYun-Fat Chow \r\n\r\nHungary \r\nEszter Balint \r\n\r\nItaly \r\nFranco Citti \r\nFranco Nero \r\nGian Maria Volonté\r\nSilvana Mangano \r\nValeria Bruni Tedeschi \r\n\r\nIvory Coast \r\nIsaach De Bankolé \r\n\r\nJapan \r\nChishu Ryu \r\nKoji Yakusho \r\nNaomi Nishida \r\nTadanobu Asano \r\nTakeshi Kitano \r\n\r\nPoland \r\nPola Negri \r\n\r\nPortugal \r\nMaria de Medeiros \r\n\r\nSoviet Union \r\nAnatoli Solonitsyn \r\nYekaterina Golubeva \r\n\r\nSpain \r\nJavier Bardem \r\nMara Casares \r\n\r\nSweden \r\nGreta Garbo \r\nIngrid Bergman \r\nStellan Skarsgard \r\n\r\nSwitzerland \r\nSabine Timoteo \r\n\r\nTaiwan \r\nKang-sheng Lee \r\n\r\nUK \r\nCary Grant \r\nCharles Chaplin \r\nClaire Forlani \r\nClaude Rains \r\nJane Birkin \r\nSamantha Morton \r\n\r\nUSA \r\nBette Davis \r\nBill Murray \r\nBill Pullman \r\nBuster Keaton \r\nChloe Sevigny \r\nCrispin Glover \r\nDennis Hopper \r\nHarvey Keitel \r\nJack Nicholson \r\nJeff Bridges \r\nJohn Malkovich \r\nJohnny Depp \r\nKirk Douglas \r\nLillian Gish \r\nMarisa Tomei \r\nMeg Ryan \r\nNicolas Cage \r\nNicole Kidman \r\nRobert Mitchum \r\nSean Penn \r\nVincent Gallo \r\nWillem Dafoe \r\nWilliam Hurt \r\n\r\nTo be continued','f802ee517f481b4af38c54045af99cec',0,'','Y6FUdAfL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7214,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1144867020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','Interesting list, didn\'t expect to see Godard on it. I couldn\'t separate it by country and region. I know we had a top ten actresses thread on the old, old site, but this will do for the noobs.\r\n\r\nOff the top of my head, in no strategic order.\r\n\r\nMarlon Brando (Last Tango in Paris)\r\nCharlton Heston (Ben-Hur)\r\nJames Cagney (White Heat)\r\nHumphrey Bogart (Treasure of the Sierra Madre)\r\nSpencer Tracy (Father of the Bride/Adam\'s Rib)\r\nBuster Keaton (Steamboat Bill Jr)\r\nKatherine Hepburn (Suddenly Last Summer)\r\nNatalie Wood (Spelndor in the Grass)\r\nJack Nicholson (Ironweed)\r\nGong Li (Ju Dou)\r\nJulianne Moore (Far From Heaven)\r\nNaomi Watts (King Kong/Mulholland Drive)\r\nClint Eastwood (Million Dollar Baby)\r\nGary Cooper (Meet John Doe)\r\nGreta Garbo (Camille)\r\nMiram Hopkins (Design for Living)\r\nDustin Hoffman (Midnight Cowboy)\r\nLee Marvin (Point Blank)\r\nClark Gable (San Francisco)\r\nNicole Kidman (Moulin Rouge)\r\nPeter Lorre (M)\r\nVincent Price (His Kind of Woman/Masque of the Red Death)\r\nBoris Karloff (Bride of Frankenstein)\r\nGene Kelly (Les Girls)\r\nBarbara Stanwyck (The Lady Eve)\r\nIngrid Bergman (Voyage in Italy)\r\n\r\nI\'ll add as it becomes necessary.\r\n\r\nAlso added my favorite performances from everyone selected, not necessarily the best film they were in.','6a166e98043c46388709d25c180b9219',0,'','q8QWK0vo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7215,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1144888200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Don Lope de Aguirre','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','Klaus Kinski, Marlon Brando, Robert DeNiro, Gene Hackman','c9e490f3017e7a290ec43bad03501088',0,'','Hv1PgMZE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7216,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1148595180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Sara','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','OK. I think I will start with the men. (in no particular order)\r\n\r\nJack Lemmon\r\nIan McKellen\r\nRobert Duvall\r\nDustin Hoffman\r\nMax von Sydow\r\nAnthony Hopkins\r\nJack Nicholson\r\nMarcello Mastroianni\r\nAl Pacino\r\nPaul Newman\r\nCharles Laughton\r\nRobert De Niro\r\nAlec Guinness\r\nPeter Sellers\r\nGregory Peck\r\nKenneth Branagh\r\nMarlon Brando\r\nJohnny Depp\r\nSteve McQueen\r\nRobert Redford\r\nSpencer Tracy\r\nPeter Lorre\r\nJacques Tati\r\nRichard Burton\r\nJimmy Stewart\r\nMontgomery Clift\r\nMorgan Freeman\r\nBrad Pitt\r\n\r\nEnough for now. Maybe I\'ll add to it.\r\n\r\nSara','651533efe3f29ef71f079fd63a074ae0',0,'','jYdJf0Fu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7217,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1151241180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','Kyoko Kagawa\r\nZhang Ziyi\r\nMarilyn Monroe\r\nIsabelle Adjani\r\nGong Li\r\nKinuyo Tanaka\r\nSetsuko Hara\r\nLeonor Silveira\r\nEmma Suarez\r\nMarie Riviere\r\nNaomi Watts\r\nEmmanuelle Chaulet\r\nWaheeda Rehman\r\nMadhubala\r\nMaria Casares\r\nDita Parlo\r\nAmanda Langlet\r\nAnna Karina\r\nIrene Jacob\r\n\r\nFred Astaire\r\nBuster Keaton\r\nAnthony Hopkins\r\nHumphrey Bogart','e5c76dd5a263ce96d5a8d6e1ddb0cba8',0,'','sFBpKulQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7218,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1156947060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'MikLosk','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','We had such threads on the old board... \r\nOk, guys!\r\n\r\nActors:\r\n\r\nMarcello Mastroianni\r\nMarlon Brando\r\nAnthony Hopkins\r\nAl Pacino\r\nJean Gabin\r\nJack Nicholson\r\nRobert de Niro\r\nMax von Sydow\r\nOrson Welles\r\nJohnny Depp\r\nHumphrey Bogart\r\n\r\nActresses:\r\n\r\nCatherine Deneuve\r\nIngrid Bergman\r\nGreta Garbo\r\nAnouk Aimee\r\nTatiana Samoilova\r\nMargarita Terekhova\r\nAnna Magnani \r\nAudrey Hepburn','dbdbac80558d9fc1d62ba213b97fb245',0,'','QYUPSEBK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7219,1524,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1163718180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Your favorite actors and actresses','No Alain Delon on your list, Sara! I recently got Rocco and his Brothers from the library only watch the man in action \r\n\r\nM','2f9f5c7f6249247577330ce7efcec42d',0,'','7kZrzatv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7220,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1132640160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Best Films of the Decade','Ok, here is a re-vamped list I have been working on throughout the night. It has been expanded with recent (near)masterpieces I\'ve seen at this year\'s Berlinale for example, and I have also included many of the previous contenders, from the runners-up list in the next post. I might not have seen some of them for some years, but when i did I fell in love with them. So until I see them again, they will definitely stay in. \r\nSome other films which have been revisited and found \"unworthy\" (what a harsh term...) have been excluded (e.g. 5x2). \r\nAs you can see I\'m a bit uninformed from 2004/05 onwards, but hey, let\'s see your lists! (especially arsaib who offered such an extensive \"best of 2005\" recently \"> ). \r\n\r\nBest of the Decade (So Far) \r\n\r\n2000 \r\nBaise-moi *%#@ Me (Virginie Despentes, Coralie / France) \r\nBatoru rowaiaru Battle Royale [director`s cut] (Kinji Fukasaku / Japan) \r\nBefore Night Falls (Julian Schnabel / USA) \r\nCast Away (Robert Zemeckis / USA) \r\nCode inconnu: Recit incomplet de divers voyages Code Unknown (Michael Haneke / France, Germany, Romania) \r\nDie Polizistin The Policewoman (Andreas Dresen / Germany) \r\nDjomeh (Hassan Yektapanah / Iran, France) \r\nEngland! (Achim von Borries / Germany) \r\nEureka (Shinji Aoyama / Japan) \r\nL\'amour, l\'argent, l\'amour Love, Money, Love (Philip Groning / Germany, Switzerland, France) \r\nLa ville est tranquille The town is quiet (Robert Guediguian / France) \r\nMaelstrom Maelstrom (Denis Villeneuve / Canada) \r\nProof of Life (Taylor Hackford / USA) \r\nSanger fran andra vaningen Songs from the Second Floor (Roy Andersson / Sweden, Norway, Denmark) \r\nShadow of the Vampire (E. Elias Merhige / UK, USA, Luxembourg) \r\nShiqi sui de dan che Beijing Bicycle (Xiaoshuai Wang / China, Taiwan) \r\nSoins et beauté (Alejandra Rojo / France) \r\nSous le sable Under the Sand (Francois Ozon / France) \r\nTakhte siah Blackboards (Samira Makhmalbaf / Iran, Italy, Japan) \r\nThe Claim (Michael Winterbottom / UK, France, Canada) \r\nThe Heart of the World (Guy Maddin / Canada) \r\nThe Million Dollar Hotel (Wim Wenders / USA, Germany, UK) \r\nUnbreakable (M. Night Shyamalan / USA) \r\nUttara (Buddhadev Dasgupta / India) \r\nZhantai Platform (Zhang Ke Jia / China, Hong Kong, Japan, France) \r\n\r\n2001 \r\nAkai hashi no shita no nurui mizu Warm Water Under a Red Bridge (Shohei Imamura / Japan) \r\nAtanarjuat The Fast Runner (Zacharias Kunuk / Canada) \r\nAvalon (Mamoru Oshii / Poland, Japan) \r\nDas Experiment The Experiment (Oliver Hirschbiegel / Germany) \r\nDer Felsen A Map of the Heart (Dominik Graf / Germany) \r\nEnemy at the Gates (Jean-Jacques Annaud / USA, Germany, UK, Ireland) \r\nFreunde The Whiz Kids (Jan Kruger, Oliver Schwabe (co-director) / Germany) \r\nJe rentre a la maison I\'m going Home (Manoel de Oliveira / France, Portugal) \r\nLa Pianiste The Piano Player (Michael Haneke / France, Austria) \r\nMonster\'s Ball (Marc Forster / USA, Canada) \r\nMulholland Dr. (David Lynch / USA, France) \r\nNichts bereuen No Regrets (Benjamin Quabeck / Germany) \r\nSen to Chihiro no kamikakushi Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki / Japan) \r\nThe Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson / USA) \r\nTu vois (Francois Ruiz / France) \r\nUnloved (Kunitoshi Manda / Japan) \r\n\r\n2002 \r\n8 femmes 8 Women (Francois Ozon / France, Italy) \r\n25th Hour (Spike Lee / USA) \r\nAbout Time 2 (Mike Figgis / USA) \r\nAdaptation. (Spike Jonze / USA) \r\nBungalow (Ulrich Kohler / Germany) \r\nCatch me if you can (Steven Spielberg / USA) \r\nChanging Lanes (Roger Michell / USA) \r\nDans le noir du temps (Jean-Luc Godard / France) \r\nDolls (Takeshi Kitano / Japan) \r\nElsker dig for evigt Open Hearts (Susanne Bier / Denmark) \r\nHable con ella Talk to Her (Pedro Almodvar / Spain) \r\nHeaven (Tom Tykwer / Germany, Italy, USA, France, UK) \r\nKôfuku no kane Blessing Bell (Sabu / Japan) \r\nLanse da men Blue Gate Crossing (Chin-yen Yee / Taiwan, France) \r\nLe fils The Son (Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne / Belgium, France) \r\nMadrid (Daphne Charizani / Germany) \r\nNebo. Samolyot. Devushka. Sky. Plane. Girl. (Vera Storozheva / Russia) \r\nNuomos sutartis The Lease (Kristijonas Vildziunas / Lithuania) \r\nPunch-Drunk Love (Paul Thomas Anderson / USA) \r\nShin jingi no hakaba Graveyard of Honor (Takashi Miike / Japan) \r\nSophiiiie! (Michael Hofmann / Germany) \r\nThe Hours (Stephen Daldry / USA) \r\nUzak Distant (Nuri Bilge Ceylan / Turkey) \r\nVendredi Soir Friday Night (Claire Denis / France) \r\nWhite Oleander (Peter Kosminsky / USA, Germany) \r\nXiao cheng zhi chun Springtime in a small Town (Tian Zhuangzhuang / China, Hong Kong, France, Netherlands) \r\nYing xiong Hero (2002 / Zhang Yimou / China, Hong Kong) \r\n\r\n2003 \r\n21 Grams (Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu / USA) \r\nBu jian The Missing (Lee Kang-sheng / Taiwan) \r\nBu san Good Bye, Dragon Inn (Ming-liang Tsai / Taiwan) \r\nDogville (Lars von Trier / Denmark, Sweden, UK, USA, Germany, Finland, Netherlands, France, Norway) \r\nElephant (Gus Van Sant / USA) \r\nGoff in der Wuste Goff in the Desert (Heinz Emigholz / Germany) \r\nHistoire de Marie et Julien The Story of Marie and Julien (Jacques Rivette / France, Italy) \r\nIdentity Kills (Soren Voigt / Germany) \r\nL\'esquive Games of Love and Chance (Abdellatif Kechiche / France) \r\nLichter Flickering Lights (Hans-Christian Schmid / Germany) \r\nMy Life Without Me (Isabel Coixet / Spain, Canada) \r\nNoi albinoi Noi the Albino (Dagur Kari / Iceland, Germany, UK, Denmark) \r\nOpen Range (Kevin Costner / USA) \r\nRaja (Jacques Doillon / Morocco, France) \r\nSchussangst Gun-shy (Dito Tsintsadze / Germany) \r\nSon frere His Brother (Patrice Chereau / France) \r\nTe doy mis ojos Take my eyes (Iciar Bollain / Spain) \r\nThe Brown Bunny (Vincent Gallo / USA) \r\nThe Station Agent (Thomas McCarthy / USA) \r\nWonderful Days (Moon-saeng Kim / South Korea) \r\n\r\n2004 \r\nBefore Sunset (Richard Linklater / USA) \r\nBirth (Jonathan Glazer / USA) \r\nDare mo shiranai Nobody Knows (Hirokazu Koreeda / Japan) \r\nEternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry / USA) \r\nFrau fährt, Mann schläft (Rudolf Thome / Germany) \r\nGegen die Wand Head-On (Fatih Akin / Germany, Turkey) \r\nLe chiavi di casa The Keys to the House (Gianni Amelio / Italy, France, Germany) \r\nLe conseguenze dell\'amore The Consequences of Love (Paolo Sorrentino / Italy) \r\nMarseille (Angela Schanelec / Germany) \r\nShi mian mai fu House of Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou / China, Hong Kong) \r\nSud pralad Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul / Thailand, France, Germany, Italy) \r\nThe Aviator (Martin Scorsese / USA, Japan, Germany) \r\nThe Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (Wes Anderson / USA) \r\nTony Takitani (Jun Ichikawa / Japan) \r\nTrilogia I: To Livadi pou dakryzei Trilogy: The Weeping Meadow (Theo Angelopoulos / Greece, Germany, France, Italy) \r\n\r\n2005 \r\n...Es wird jemand kommen, der ja zu mir sagt Ruth (Michael Blume / Germany) \r\nAmour neutre Love neutral (Pierre Coulibeuf / France) \r\nAu-dela de la haine Beyond Hatred (Olivier Meyrou / France) \r\nBabooska (Tizza Covi, Rainer Frimmel / Italy, Austria) \r\nBatalla en el cielo Battle in Heaven (Carlos Reygadas / Mexico, Belgium France, Germany) \r\nBroken Flowers (Jim Jarmusch / USA, France) \r\nCache Hidden (Michael Haneke / France, Austria, Germany, Italy) \r\nInvisible Waves (Pen-Ek Ratanaruang / Thailand, Netherlands, Hong Kong, South Korea) \r\nKaalpurush Memories in the Mist (Buddhadev Dasgupta / India) \r\nMizu no hana Water Flower (Yusuke Kinoshita / Japan) \r\nNekam Achat Mishtey Eynay Avenge but One of my Two Eyes (Avi Mograbi / Israel, France) \r\nThe New World (Terrence Malick / USA) \r\n\r\n2006 \r\n46-okunen no koi Big Bang Love, Juvenile A (Takashi Miike / Japan) \r\nAus der Ferne \"From far away\" (Thomas Arslan / Germany) \r\nBamako (Abderrahmane Sissako / Mali, USA, France) \r\nIl regista di matrimoni The Wedding Director (Marco Bellocchio / Italy) \r\nIn Between Days (So Yong Kim / Canada, USA) \r\nLa-bas Down There (Chantal Akerman / Belgium, France) \r\nLa science des reves Science of Sleep (Michel Gondry / France, Italy) \r\nLady Chatterley (Pascale Ferran / France, Belgium) \r\n\r\n2007 \r\nState Legislature (Frederick Wiseman / USA) \r\n\r\n\r\nNumber of Films by Country: \r\n\r\nUSA: 30 \r\nFrance: 20 \r\nGermany: 20 \r\nJapan: 13 \r\nCanada: 5 \r\nChina: 5 \r\nItaly: 4 \r\nTaiwan: 3 \r\nBelgium: 2 \r\nDenmark: 2 \r\nIndia: 2 \r\nIran: 2 \r\nSpain: 2 \r\nThailand: 2 \r\nUK: 2 \r\nGreece: 1 \r\nIceland: 1 \r\nIsrael: 1 \r\nLithuania: 1 \r\nMali: 1 \r\nMexico: 1 \r\nRussia: 1 \r\nSouth Korea: 1 \r\nSweden: 1 \r\nTurkey: 1 \r\n_______________ \r\n\r\nTotal: 124 \r\n\r\n* added Frederick Wiseman\'s cinematic poem State Legislature as well as Avi Mograbi\'s wonderfully compelling and personal documentary-essay \"Avenge but One of my Two Eyes\". Also kicked out Christopher Nolan\'s Memento after a re-watch and included Chin-yen Yee\'s \"Blue Gate Crossing\" (2002)','10a9a8815af3b6e793d4471b7940927e',0,'','oEvY1JiP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7221,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1132640280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','And here are some possible contenders I need to see again, just in case you were wondering \r\n\r\nAmerican Psycho (2000) \r\nBrother (2000) \r\nBruce Lee: A Warrior\'s Journey (2000) \r\nDancer in the Dark (2000) \r\nDokuritsu shonen gasshoudan Boys Choir (2000) \r\nItaliensk for begyndere Italian for Beginners (2000) \r\nDer Krieger und die Kaiserin The Warrior and the Empress (2000) \r\nThe Patriot (2000) \r\nThe Yards (2000) \r\nStand-by (2000) \r\nThomas est amoureux Thomas in Love (2000) \r\nCrouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Wo hu cang long (2000) \r\nYi yi Yi yi: A One and a Two... (2000) \r\nA ma soeur! Fat Girl (2001) \r\nL\' anglaise et le duc The Lady and the Duke (2002) \r\nBarabe! Rascals! (2001) \r\nBaran (2001) \r\nCzesc Tereska Hi Tessa (2001) \r\nDonnie Darko (2001) \r\nEat (2001) \r\nIntimacy (2001) \r\nKoroshiya 1 Ichi the Killer (2001) \r\nNormalni ljudi Normal People (2001) \r\nLe peuple migrateur, The travelling Birds / Winged Migration (2001) \r\nThe Pledge (2001) \r\nSafar e Ghandehar Kandahar (2001) \r\nLe Souffle Deep Breath\" (2001) \r\nStanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures (2001) \r\nLa stanza del figlio The Sons Room (2001) \r\nTmavomodry svet Dark Blue World (2001) \r\nXingfu shiguang Happy Times (2001) \r\nVanilla Sky (2001) \r\nEtre et avoir To Be and to Have (2002) \r\nFar from Heaven (2002) \r\nLauryn Hill MTV UNPLUGGED NO. 2.0 (2000) \r\nMaintenant (2002) \r\nRokugatsu no hebi A Snake of June (2002) \r\nCharlie\'s Angels: Full Throttle (2003) \r\nGolden Lemons (2003) \r\nLost in Translation (2003) \r\nSwimming Pool (2003) \r\nEbolusyon ng isang pamilyang pilipino \"Evolution of a Filipino Family\" (Lav Diaz / Philippines / 2004) \r\nKinetta (2005 / Greece / Yorgos Lanthimos) \r\nMiami Vice (2006) \r\nMeng Na Li Sha \"Mona Lisa\" (Li Ying / China, Japan / 2007)','131520ef86781afb7cbe6411628a3097',0,'','BgiCmHE4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7222,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1132643700,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Well whether I agree with you or not, you certainly have some great films there, and there are more than enough I haven\'t seen for some good recomendations. You and I don\'t seem to have a very similar taste in American movies, but that could be a good thing. Mulholland Drive is a little low there, and if I ever actually number a list, that might top it. Anyways, I\'m at school so I\'ll try and get at least a top 20 or so when I get home. \r\n\r\nI also realize that my top 100 foreign films list is still pending.','422d82fd39dc7569339d7f9503985b0c',0,'','D3GbCHrN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7223,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1132734600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I\'d love to see your list, as I would like to watch some of your top films, just to see the difference in tastes.\r\nThe placing of Mullholand Dr. may seem low, but most of the listed films are very very close in terms of quality. \r\nAlso I\'ve seen the film only once,when it came to cinemas (2002?), and its appreciation has grown in my memory \r\nDon\'t you like the american films I\'ve listed?','6ea8e9e94ee30a432884307304b6c4b3',0,'','hRWg2iMr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7224,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1135469220,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Busy wandering, I\'ve hardly seen anything from 2005! \r\n\r\n1.Innocence\r\n2.Mulholland Dr \r\n3.Howl\'s Moving Castle\r\n4.Dogville\r\n5.The Return\r\n6.Werckmeister Harmonies\r\n7.Before Sunset\r\n8.Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon\r\n9.The Wayward Cloud\r\n10.The Life Aquatic\r\n+\r\nEureka\r\nAt the Height of Summer\r\nFar from Heaven\r\n2046\r\nFinding Nemo\r\nMonday Morning\r\nThe Weeping Meadow\r\nWhat Time is it There?\r\nPlatform\r\nThe Incredibles\r\nIn the Mood for Love\r\nStory of the Weeping Camel\r\nOldboy\r\nIsle\r\nChunhyang\r\nTalk to Her\r\nLe Chignon d\'Olga\r\nFemme Fatale','303d8e3030242dbf0052d1c657a1a5fe',0,'','nj1MkZfQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7225,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1135978740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Well here are my top ten\'s or top 15\'s if I thought the year was good enough since 2000. I\'ve also included a running best of list for 2006 which I\'ll periodically update as I see worthwhile films. \r\n\r\n2000 \r\n1. Requiem for a Dream (US - Darren Aronosky) \r\n2. Dancer in the Dark (Denmark/France/Sweden - Lars Von Trier) \r\n3. Traffic (US - Steven Soderbergh) \r\n4. Bamboozled (US - Spike Lee) \r\n5. O Brother Where Art Thou? (US - Joel and Ethan Coen) \r\n6. Love\'s Labours Lost (US/UK - Kenneth Branagh) \r\n7. The American Nightmare (US - Adam Simon) \r\n8. Yi-Yi (Taiwan - Edward Yang) \r\n9. Almost Famous (US - Cameron Crowe) \r\n10. Paragraph 175 (US - Robert Epstein, Jeffrey Friedman) \r\n11. Amores Perros (Mexico - Alejandro Gonzlez Irritu) \r\n12. Into the Arms of Strangers (US - Mark Jonathan Harris) \r\n13. Timecode (US - Michael Figgis) \r\n14. Eureka (Japan - Shinji Aoyama) \r\n\r\n2001 \r\n1. Mulholland Drive (US - David Lynch) \r\n2. Moulin Rouge (US/Australia - Baz Luhrmann) \r\n3. Apocalypse Now Redux (US - Francis Ford Coppola) \r\n4. The Royal Tenenbaums (US - Wes Anderson) \r\n5. Baran (Iran - Majid Majidi) \r\n6. Stanley Kubrick: A Life in Pictures (US - Jan Harlan) \r\n7. Vanilla Sky (US - Cameron Crowe) \r\n8. The Hidden Half (Iran - Mohammad Nikbin/Tahmineh Milani) \r\n9. Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (US/New Zealand - Peter Jackson) \r\n10. The Road Home (China - Zhang Yimou) \r\n11. Memento (US - Christopher Nolan) \r\n12. Bully (US - Larry Clark) \r\n13. Amelie (France/Germany - Jean-Pierre Jeunet) \r\n14. What Time is it There? (Taiwan - Tsai Ming-Liang \r\n15. Kandahar (Iran/France - Mohsen Makhmalbaf) \r\n\r\n2002 \r\n1. The Pianist (Poland/UK/France/Germany - Roman Polanski) \r\n2. Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (US/New Zealand - Peter Jackson) \r\n3. Bloody Sunday (UK/Ireland - Paul Greengrass) \r\n4. Talk to Her (Spain - Pedro Almodovar) \r\n5. Bowling for Columbine (US - Michael Moore) \r\n6. All or Nothing (UK - Michael Leigh) \r\n7. Spirited Away (Japan - Hayao Miyazaki) \r\n8. Adaptation (US - Spike Jonze) \r\n9. Catch Me If You Can (US - Steven Spielberg) \r\n10. Gangs of New York (US - Martin Scorsese) \r\n11. Ararat (Canada - Atom Egoyan) \r\n12. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (US - George Lucas) \r\n13. Minority Report (US - Steven Spielberg) \r\n14. Far From Heaven (US - Todd Haynes) \r\n15. The Quiet American (US/Australia - Phillip Noyce) \r\n16. In Praise of Love (Switzerland - Jean Luc Godard) \r\n17. Chicago (US - Robb Marshall) \r\n18. 25th Hour (US - Spike Lee) \r\n\r\n2003 \r\n1. City of God (Brazil - Ktia Lund, Fernando Meirelles) \r\n2. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (US - Quintin Tarantino) \r\n3. Angels in America (US - Mike Nichols) \r\n4. Elephant (US - Gus Van Sant) \r\n5. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (US/New Zealand - Peter Jackson) \r\n6. 21 Grams (US - Alejandro Gonzlez Irritu) \r\n7. Finding Nemo (US - Andrew Stanton, Lee Unkrich) \r\n8. Big Fish (US - Tim Burton) \r\n9. Thirteen (US - Catherine Hardwicke) \r\n10. Bad Santa (US - Terry Zwigoff) \r\n\r\n2004 \r\n1. The Incredibles (US - Brad Bird) \r\n2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (US - Michel Gondry) \r\n3. The Saddest Music in the World (Canada - Guy Maddin) \r\n4. Dogville (Denmark - Lars Von Trier) \r\n5. Hero (China/Hong Kong - Zhang Yimou) \r\n6. Million Dollar Baby (US - Clint Eastwood) \r\n7. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (US - Quintin Tarantino) \r\n8. Sideways (US - Alexander Payne) \r\n9. Vera Drake (UK - Mike Leigh) \r\n10. House of Flying Daggers (China/Hong Kong - Zhang Yimou) \r\n11. Moolaade (Senegal - Ousmane Sembene) \r\n12. Tarnation (US - Jonathan Caouette) \r\n13. Closer (US - Mike Nichols) \r\n14. Before Sunset (US - Richard Linklater) \r\n15. Baadasssss (US - Mario Van Peebles) \r\n16. I Heart Huckabees (US - David O\'Russell) \r\n17. Team America: World Police (US - Trey Parker) \r\n\r\n2005 \r\n1. Sin City (US - Frank Miller/Robert Rodriguez/Quintin Tarantino) \r\n2. Serenity (US - Joss Whedon) \r\n3. Crash (US - Paul Haggis) \r\n4. Pride and Prejudice (US/UK - Joe Wright) \r\n5. The World (Japan/France/China - Jia Zhang Ke) \r\n6. Last Days (US - Gus Van Sant) \r\n7. Broken Flowers (US - Jim Jarmusch) \r\n8. The Weeping Meadow (Greece/France - Theo Angelopoulos) \r\n9. Nobody Knows (Japan - Hirokazu Kore-eda) \r\n10. Fever Pitch (US - Peter and Bobby Farrelly) \r\n11. King Kong (US - Peter Jackson) \r\n12. Munich (US - Steven Spielberg) \r\n13. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (US - George Lucas) \r\n14. Kung Fu Hustle (China/Hong Kong - Stephen Chow) \r\n15. The Squid and the Whale (US - Noah Baumbach) \r\n\r\n2006 \r\nTsotsi (South Africa - Gavin Hood) \r\nUnited 93 (US - Paul Greengrass) \r\nThe War Tapes (US - Deborah Scranton) \r\nA Scanner Darkly (US - Richard Linklater) \r\nBorat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (US - Larry Charles) \r\nBobby (US - Emilio Estevez) \r\nThe Departed (US - Martin Scorsese) \r\nChildren of Men (US/UK - Alfonso Cauron) \r\nCurse of the Golden Flower (China/Hong Kong - Zhang Yimou) \r\n\r\n2007 \r\nPlanet Terror (US - Robert Rodriguez) \r\nNo Country for Old Men (US - Joel and Ethan Coen) \r\nDiary of the Dead (US - George A. Romero) \r\n\r\n2008 \r\nIron Man (US - Jon Favreau) \r\n\r\n*edit for Eureka','017c2d86709d159600ae65639bb07472',0,'','qhcgWXDA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7226,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1138158240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I didn\'t expect 2 films i\'ve seen over the last few days- The Wayard Cloud and Howl\'s Moving Castle- to be great masterpieces.','a64f7473158662fb752c2c35b0f5c8e2',0,'','ZTftaYlp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7227,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1139160300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Judging by your re-vamped listing John,\"Innocence\" was another very recent masterpiece. What a way to start the year.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','185f9f96cd0a942d65f3ab18939fb9b1',0,'','M9HEgb1s',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7228,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1139180160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Johndav','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Well it still has to stand the test of time with me, cos it has the advantage of being fresh in the memory. But yeah, i\'m feeling generally more positive about the state of cinema, and still loads from 2005 to come. 2004 was an excellent vintage!','97c68b7e0ab7458ba63589ce782fcdd3',0,'','5M9TDrAd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7229,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149227340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','That\'s a heck of a list, A. You\'ve certainly watched quite a few important new releases. (Somehow, this thread has been out of my radar in the past.)','86d41cc90dbfdfe7c810a12c2104e33f',0,'','3JLZQoSD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7230,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149228120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I don\'t know if I have caught more than five theatrical releases at cinema this year, but watching 50+ films at the Berlinale has certainly helped with my being more up to date. \r\n\r\nLuckily I am keeping records of all the films I watch since the end of 1999, so... \r\nBut I haven\'t seen in any year more than your - if I recall correctly - 150+ new releases in 2005','22ef775107f1d077ccecae5531bda7e0',0,'','tM2i6KJe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7231,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149229380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','250+, but who is counting?!','f6f30364e8995d63a90484519a04d9d1',0,'','zLKHoYkj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7232,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149230280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Whoooooow! \r\nBut don\'t worry, we are all addicted here.','e98485e2b15d228ad12f50ccc809c637',0,'','LAqvKD9u',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7233,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149232380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Do I see an arsaib list brewing?','99148cec0cd6bf59d55a4f1295a6be89',0,'','PTlQrJXL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7234,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149817260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','\"Brewing\" is the key word here. We\'ll see how long it takes. Anyway, one film on your lists that I\'m not familiar with is Into the Arms of Strangers. Is it a doc.?','a13f14ba4f4d204176477266d3a1c303',0,'','pPW7txMu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7235,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1149830760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Yes its about Jewish children smuggled out of Germany in the early years of Nazism. It\'s subtitle is Stories of the Kindertransport. Which actually makes it the second WWII documentary on my 2000 list. As you probably realize, these lists are constantly up for revision. Every new film I see can potentially crack the list, which is why I just submitted a list when I did. Looking upon them, I probably have some revisions to do as well, I don\'t think All or Nothing was on my 2002 list. Perhaps one day A and I will finish our top tens from 1895 on up. Honestly I\'d rather start with 1927, because a lot of films from 1908 seem very similar to me.','4a84de4addf520e75c4b5c1edb65b3b3',0,'','4Ewba1nY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7236,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150181580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','All the Real Girls - David Gordon Green / U.S.\r\n\r\nBefore Sunset - Richard Linklater / U.S.\r\nBirth - Jonathan Glazer / U.S.\r\nBlissfully Yours (Sud Sanaeha) - Apichatpong Weerasethakul / Thailand\r\nEl Bonaerense - Pablo Trapero / Argentina\r\nThe Brown Bunny - Vincent Gallo / U.S.\r\n\r\nCaf Lumire (Kh jik) - Hou Hsiao-hsien / Japan\r\nLa Cinaga - Lucrecia Martel / Argentina\r\nClean - Olivier Assayas / France-Can-U.K.\r\nClimates (Iklimler) - Nuri Bilge Ceylan / Turkey-Fra\r\nCome and Go (Vai~E~Vem) - Joo Csar Monteiro / Portugal\r\nLa Commune (Paris, 1871) - Peter Watkins / France\r\nCrash - Paul Haggis / U.S.\r\nCrimson Gold (Talaye Sorgh) - Jafar Panahi / Iran \r\n\r\nThe Death of Mr. Lazarescu (Moartea Domnului Lazarescu) - Cristi Puiu / Romania\r\ndemonlover - Olivier Assayas / France\r\nLes Destines Sentimentales - Olivier Assayas / France\r\nDevils on the Doorstep (Guizi Lai Le) - Jiang Wen / China\r\nDistance - Hirokazu Koreeda / Japan\r\nDogville - Lars von Trier / Denmark\r\nDomestic Violence - Frederick Wiseman / U.S.\r\nDrifters (Er Di) - Wang Xiaoshuai / China\r\n\r\nElephant - Gus Van Sant / U.S.\r\nEternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry / U.S.\r\nEureka - Shinji Aoyama / Japan\r\n\r\n4 - Ilya Khrzhanovsky / Russia\r\nForty Shades of Blue - Ira Sachs / U.S.\r\nFrom the Other Side (De l\'autre ct) - Chantal Akerman / France-Bel\r\n\r\nGabrielle - Patrice Chreau / France\r\nGames of Love and Chance (L\'Esquive) - Abdellatif Kechiche / France\r\nGood Morning, Night (Buongiorno, Notte) - Marco Bellocchio / Italy\r\nGoodbye Dragon Inn (Bu san) - Tsai Ming-liang / Taiwan\r\n\r\nA History of Violence - David Cronenberg / U.S.\r\nThe Holy Girl (La Nia Santa) - Lucrecia Martel / Argentina\r\n\r\nI\'m Going Home (Je rentre la maison) - Manoel de Oliveira / France-Por\r\nIn Praise of Love (loge de l\'amour) - Jean-Luc Godard / France\r\nIn the Mood for Love (Hua yang nian hua) - Wong Kar-wai / Hong Kong\r\nIn This World - Michael Winterbottom / U.K.\r\nIn Vanda\'s Room (No Quarto da Vanda) - Pedro Costa / Portugal\r\nInnocence - Lucile Hadzihalilovic / France\r\nIntimacy - Patrice Chreau / France-U.K.\r\nThe Intruder (L\'Intrus) - Claire Denis / France\r\n\r\nJapn - Carlos Reygadas / Mexico\r\n\r\nKeane - Lodge Kerrigan / U.S.\r\nKill Bill: Volume 2 - Quentin Tarantino / U.S.\r\n\r\nLast Days - Gus Van Sant / U.S.\r\nLast Life in the Universe (Ruang Rak noi nid Mahasan) - Pen-Ek Ratanaruang / Thailand\r\nLate Marriage - Dover Koshashvili / Israel\r\nLichter - Hans-Christian Schmid / Germany\r\nLilya 4-Ever - Lukas Moodysson / Sweden\r\nLoin - Andr Tchin / France\r\nThe Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Jackson / U.S.-Nz\r\nLost in Translation - Sofia Coppola / U.S.\r\n\r\nMad Hot Ballroom - Marilyn Agrelo / U.S.\r\nMemento - Christopher Nolan / U.S.\r\nMillennium Mambo (Qianxi Manbo) - Hao Hsiao-hsien / Taiwan\r\nMoolaad - Ousmane Sembene / Senegal\r\nLos Muertos - Lisandro Alonso / Argentina\r\nMulholland Drive - David Lynch / U.S.\r\nMunich - Steven Spielberg / U.S.\r\nMy Mother\'s Smile (L\'Ora di Religione: Il Sorriso di mia Madre) - Marco Bellocchio / Italy\r\nMystic River - Clint Eastwood / U.S.\r\n\r\nThe New World - Terrence Malick / U.S.\r\nNo Man\'s Land - Danis Tanovic / Bosnia-Herzegovina\r\nNotre Musique - Jean-Luc Godard / France\r\n\r\nOne Day in the Life of Andrei Arsenevich (Une Journee d\'Andrei Arsenevitch) - Chris Marker / France\r\n\r\nThe Pianist - Roman Polanski - France-Ger-U.K.-Pol\r\nThe Piano Teacher (La Pianiste) - Michael Haneke / France\r\nPlatform (Zhantai) - Jia Zhangke / China\r\nThe Pledge - Sean Penn / U.S.\r\nThe Profession of Arms (Il Mestiere delle armi) - Ermanno Olmi / Italy\r\nPunch-Drunk Love - Paul Thomas Anderson / U.S.\r\n\r\nRegular Lovers (Les Amants Rguliers) - Philippe Garrel / France\r\nRequiem for a Dream - Darren Aronofsky / U.S.\r\nRussian Ark (Russkij Kovcheg) - Aleksandr Sokurov / Russia\r\n\r\nSaraband - Ingmar Bergman / Sweden\r\nSauvage Innocence - Philippe Garrel / France\r\nA Scanner Darkly - Richard Linklater / U.S.\r\nShara (Sharasojyu) - Naomi Kawase / Japan\r\nThe Son (Le Fils) - Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne / Belgium\r\nSon Frre - Patrice Chreau / France\r\nSpider - David Cronenberg / Canada-U.K.\r\nSpirited Away (Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi) - Hayao Miyazaki / Japan\r\nSpring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (Bom yeoreum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom) - Kim Ki-duk / S.Korea\r\nStar Spangled to Death - Ken Jacobs / U.S.\r\nStill Life (Sanxia haoren) - Jia Zhang-ke / China-HK\r\nThe Story of Marie and Julien (Histoire de Marie et Julien) - Jacques Rivette / France\r\nSuzhou River (Suzhou He) - Lou Ye / China\r\n\r\nTalk to Her (Hable con Ella) - Pedro Almodvar / Spain\r\nTape - Richard Linklater / U.S.\r\nTen - Abbas Kiarostami / Iran\r\nTie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks - Wang Bing / China\r\nTime Out (L\'Emploi du Temps) - Laurent Cantet / France\r\nThree Times (Zui hao de shi guang) - Hou Hsiao-hsien / Taiwan-Fra\r\nTime of the Wolf (Le Temps du loup) - Michael Haneke / France\r\nTriple Agent - Eric Rohmer / France\r\n21 Grams - Alejandro Gonzlez Irritu / U.S.\r\nThe Twilight Samurai (Tasogare Seibei) - Yoji Yamada / Japan\r\n\r\nUnder the Sand (Sous le Sable) - Franois Ozon / France\r\nUnknown Pleasures (Ren Xiao Yao) - Jia Zhang Ke / China\r\n\r\nVa Savoir - Jacques Rivette / France \r\nVers Mathilde - Claire Denis / France\r\nVibrator - Ryuichi Hiroki / Japan\r\nThe Village - M. Night Shyamalan / U.S.\r\n\r\nThe Wayward Cloud (Tian bian yi duo yun) - Tsai Ming-liang / Taiwan\r\nThe Weeping Meadow (Trilogia I: To Livadi pou dakryzei) - Theo Angelopoulos / Greece\r\nWerckmeister Harmonies (Werckmeister Harmnik) - Bla Tarr & gnes Hranitzky / Hungary\r\nWhat Time Is It There? (Ni Neibian Jidian) - Tsai Ming-liang / Taiwan\r\nWhen the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts - Spike Lee / U.S.\r\nThe World (Shijie) - Jia Zhang-ke / China-Jap-Fra\r\n\r\nThe Yards - James Gray / U.S.\r\n_________________________','752ed8c90a9d49259b5204a4fbb2edf4',0,'','RTwq3ZMF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7237,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150199940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Of the films on your list, i must say Distance seems the most intriguing to me, but as of yet it isn\'t available on DVD in this country. I\'m assuming you caught it at some festival, because I don\'t even think it played in any theaters here. It\'s a little surprising considering the critical success Koreeda\'s three available films have received here. Also I haven\'t seen anything Wiseman has made since 1976\'s Meat. Enough on there to give me some suggestions, but I\'d like to wait awhile before buying more DVD\'s, which I\'m sure is understandable.','bda25b64d0847945a3b79c3947f6915a',0,'','Xnv3KokB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7238,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150264200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Yeah, it\'s unfortunate that Distance has never been released in this country. While the film deals with the aftermath of a Japanese cult\'s biological attack from the mid-90\'s, it also works well as a post-9/11 allegory. It\'s subtle and quietly haunting.','ffcb1a013330b16dc3cb390ce45914a5',0,'','lrqL9J2u',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7239,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150393860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Wow! Finally up, and a very nice selection. As expected your selection fits my standards. Most of the films you listed and I haven\'t seen are one\'s I missed one way or the other. Hopefully this will change.\r\nInteresting to notice the four differing approaches to structuring our lists so far. I thought of listing films alphabetically at first, but as I don\'t know the english titles for all of them this would have turned out too unclear. If I listed them by year, some titles would maybe be easier to find... Don\'t know if my assuption was correct though, as I decided to list them alphabetically (by original title) each year. I also thought of numbering first, but as preferences change over time, this would have been too much work keeping it updated (and would also mean too many rewatches ) \r\nAs for the ratings, my systems have changed so much since 2000 that I had to do a lot on memory. I first thought to simply include all films with an 80 rating or higher (which means A- or higher, or in words anything from \"great\" onwards), but then I found out that I had also rated some imo great and essential films somewhere in the 70s. (One even as \"low\" as 71!). So to hell with my initial ratings, as I decided to trust the developing feelings over time a bit more. \r\n\r\nI was able to track down Distance on DVD in Berlin, but had no time to watch it. But maybe a friend will copy it for me.\r\n\r\nIt will be interesting to see these lists grow and evolve over time, and I hope more people will contribute. I was thinking that we could also go backwards and do similar stuff with earlier decades.','0c4fb4fde3af6ab30cf67082069e01c2',0,'','FrZLy9ic',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7240,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150396980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Interesting to discover that from the 39 films I have seen from arsaib\'s list, 26 are on my own. \r\nVery pleased to see The Yards mentioned, a film that seems totally neglected but which I liked very much. I recently read an appreciation of it somewhere, but can\'t remember where exactly. Hmm, maybe I will find it. \r\nAh, yes here it is, Cinemascope issue 26, online under: www.cinema-scope.com/cs26...eyards.htm\r\nFine piece by the (to me yet unknown) Andrew Tracy.\r\nWanted to revisit the film after I read the article, which is usually a very good sign for the quality of a writer.','6d3fc177c6164b8e4669ca17748272e8',0,'','m4r29Qli',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7241,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150402980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I think this approach would be better for films of earlier decades, rather tan some over simplified \"top ten\" list. Even though we already made and I already participated in top tens for the last two decades, I think this type of ranking is much more comprehensive.','bb5cdc4d107640ecf0d5a0918ef34273',0,'','TNKDYkXv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7242,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150405380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I agree with you, though the funny thing is that I started this list more by chance, when I remembered that we tried to find the best films of the new decade on the old board, and wanted to bring the topic back in some form.\r\nI love the Top Ten games, but as you say, listing Your Top Ten of a decade, even with follow-ups, is very limiting. \r\nListing all the essential and great films is much more exhausting, and I think it will be fun seeing more obscure titles. On the other hand of course, if you have 100+ titles listed, the distinction between the best and the \"worst\" can\'t be made so easily. Your approach here covers some of both.','beae8221fbdf76e36efe5e01fb9fc124',0,'','lJm9vqCp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7243,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150417500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Thanks, A. We certainly do share quite a few films, and not just well-known critically acclaimed films, but also smaller, challenging ones. I thought about doing the list by year, but that could\'ve been confusing for the reader because a few films are listed in my annual lists by U.S. release year, and here obviously I\'ve gone with the World Premieres. \r\n\r\nThat\'s certainly a great article by Andrew Tracy. He\'s the managing editor of CS. I\'ve come across his work in a few other publictions also, and he\'s usually quite impressive.','d4996a4579ca5a906e8ce76b5cd4c47c',0,'','rDxwNjGT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7244,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1150420320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Just for a reference point arsaib, it may have helped to list the films year of production. I do prefer your method this time around, because your \"top tens\" are sometimes more exhaustive than even this. Although some years there really are some gems, 2002, 2004, and 2005 I found all these years to be remarkable, whereas I didn\'t even find a need to list runners-up for 2000 and 2003. I have faith that 2006 will turn out a great year, nothing I\'ve seen yet has overwhelmed me, but there have been quite a few surprising and worthwhile movies. Last year I saw more films in the theater than any other, and I hope that record gets broken again this year.','7bb8184436ac828b4b8f1e6741cdd258',0,'','hxVkG94j',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7245,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1154942820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Best Films of the Decade','My updated list: (couldn\'t get in under Johndav- why wouldn\'t ezboard accept this user name any more, even when my password came on automatically?):\r\n\r\n2000 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee)* \r\nWerckmeister Harmonies (Tarr)*\r\nAt the Height of Summer (Tran Anh- Hung) \r\nEureka (Aoyama)\r\nIn the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-Wai) \r\nChunhyang (Im) \r\nIsle (Kim Ki-duk)\r\nPlatform (Jia Zhangke)\r\nSuzhou River (Lou Ye)\r\nThe Day i Became a Woman (Meshkini)\r\nThe Claim (Winterbottom)\r\n\r\n2001 Mulholland Dr (Lynch)* \r\nWhat Time is it There? (Tsai) \r\nMonday Morning (Iosseliani)\r\nSpirited away (Miyazaki)\r\nWinged Migration (Perrin,Cluzaud)\r\nGerry (Van Sant)\r\n\r\n2002 Far from Heaven (Haynes) \r\nBlissfully Yours (Weerasethakul)\r\nTalk to Her (Almodovar)\r\nFinding Nemo (Stanton) \r\nFemme Fatale (De Palma)\r\nWaiting for Happiness (Sissako)\r\nJapon (Reygadas)\r\nPistol Opera (Suzuki)\r\nDolls (Kitano)\r\nSnake of June (Tsukamoto)\r\n\r\n2003 Dogville (Von Trier)* \r\nThe Return (Zvyagintsev)* \r\nOldboy (Park Chan-Wook)\r\nStory of the Weeping Camel (Davaa, Falorni)\r\nUntold Scandal (E-J Yong)\r\nBig Fish (Burton)\r\nHistoire de Marie et Julien (Rivette)\r\nA Tale of Two Sisters (Ji Woon-Kim)\r\n\r\n2004 Howl\'s Moving Castle (Miyazaki)* \r\nInnocence (Hadzihalilovic)\r\nBefore Sunset (Linklater) \r\nThe Life Aquatic (W.Anderson) \r\nMoolad (Sembene)\r\nThe Weeping Meadow (Angelopoulos) \r\n2046 (Wong Kar-Wai) \r\nThe Incredibles (Bird) \r\nThe Consequences of Love (Sorrentino)\r\nHouse of the Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou)\r\n\r\n2005 The Piano Tuner of Earthquakes (Quay bros)*\r\nThe New World (Malick)\r\nThe Wayward Cloud (Tsai)\r\nThree Times (Hou)\r\nL\'Enfant (Dardenne bros)\r\nWhere the Truth Lies (Egoyan)\r\nPrincess Raccoon (Suzuki)\r\nGood Night and Good Luck (Clooney)\r\n\r\n2006 Climates (Ceylan)\r\nOffside (Panahi)\r\nBlack Book (Verhoeven)\r\nRed Road (Arnold)\r\n\r\ni\'ve really enjoyed all of these- a strong period for international films, even if there are few of the very greatest masterpieces. A pity Hollywood seems to have so little of value to offer.','fd5f5ed632abd37f0b8629d48c9aa9a9',0,'','uam8QdR4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7246,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158461580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','I seem to be a lot more enthusiastic about the new decade than you are. \r\nIntend to make a listing of favorite film that uses your rating (0 to 3 stars applied to favorites), but I don\'t know if I\'ll get it ready this year.\r\nWhat did U add? Where the truth lies? If it\'s really that good, I should put it on my list of cinematic releases I want to see. Somehow it didn\'t sound interesting enough even after reading several reviews, so I left it off. And I was a bit disappointed with Egoyan\'s last two films.','eab02bedf3997400f63bef44d2942c10',0,'','zdB3AoU0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7247,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158462120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Kicked out Los lunes al sol (Fernando Leon de Aranoa / 2002) after watching it again. Still a very good film, but not as powerful and subtle as the first time. Actually it is a bit formulaic, and has only a few really great scenes (though the screenplay remains strong). Rating was 70 out of 100, so I had to put it off the list. \r\nBut Battle in Heaven entered instead, and 109 movies remain in the game \r\nAfter having watched Oh brother where art thou again, I removed it from the possible contenders list.','b12db909ab9d20962a9ce6c85daad894',0,'','Mab7F3th',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7248,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158466440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Still a very good film, but not as powerful and subtle as the first time. Actually it is a bit formulaic, and has only a few really great scenes (though the screenplay remains strong).\r\n\r\nCouldn\'t agree more. And the fact that Spanish academy chose it over Talk to Her is still unbelievable to me. (Though, in a rare brilliant move, ours still found a way to reward the master for his achievement.)','1b68563b4b3ec1088e3ecd6f8c1a67eb',0,'','FcapE9Dv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7249,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158467040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Once again zou are right. Seems like wisdom comes with age.  I just hope I won|t have to exclude some of my other favorites on a rewatch.\r\nAnd Talk to her remains very strong even after several viewings. I think it won in the best screenplay category... for once the academy was right!','308d80c0cc34cdb8f3daaf166523a381',0,'','asjkdgGo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7250,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158467460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Yeah, I just turned 24, the age when you get to know everything.  Now the things will start going downhill.','ab698a0b1563762da07091d412207b83',0,'','MuYBW1oE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7251,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158469140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Oh, damn the z and y. This PC is reallz troublesome. But I guess I will have to wait two years longer to REALLY see the light then.','066134af4f53d95b66dd57049fcda3b9',0,'','1pbkBqM6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7252,1525,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158608100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Films of the Decade','Alright then I have one year to go. Speaking of films this decade, I have a hell of a lot to see, although my plan of going to the cinema every day this week might have to be put on hold, because I just realized I left my contact lense case at my parents house (an hour away without traffic). I\'m curious to see The Black Dahlia, because as most of you are aware I\'m a staunch De Palma admirer, even if most of his films are flawed his style is always interesting. Zhang Yimou\'s Riding Alone for Thousands of Miles just opened here, and although its only playing at one theater, that one theater is actually about the closest one to my apartment. So I hope to find more to add, because this year has been a little weak so far (at least compared to how many favorites I had seen by this point last year). However 2005 was a damn good year for movies, as was 2004, so I can\'t honestly expect the momentum to stay the same.','7ad9baacc7849de9f4af1a2b421a1b35',0,'','dlC9h657',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7253,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186121880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Best Era in Film/Movement?','I\'ve been thinking about this subject recently. Where do you have your greatest joy in cinema. What country, what time? Recently I debated the issue amongst myself and found that at least at the present I would give a vote for American cinema in that wonderful little time period of 1929-33. Sure there were great films from \'28 but \'29 was when sound officially became the mandate. In this period of time Hollywood learned to talk, and in many ways the whole industry had to be rethought. A fresh start, the old guard was out, and a new crew was in. In a few short years they would make silent films seem like fossils. The dialog was awkward, musical numbers were narrowly conceived, the camera could barely move, Universal didn\'t even use music in their films. However by the end of this period everything seemed right again. Unfortunately at this time the freedom and discovery suffered a serious blow when the studios actually decided to enforce the Hays Code.\r\n\r\nNow why this period and country? Well I know more about Hollywood film than any other country by far. I am American, so I\'m of course going to have some prejudice. But this era isn\'t just about getting away with making films about prostitutes and killers who actually get away with it, there\'s a lot more. After all in Abel Gance\'s Lucrezia Borgia (1935) there was full female nudity, and not the artistic underwater swimming found in Tarzan and His Mate, far more decadent. Foreign films could get away with a hell of a lot more with their language as well, but there was a quality to these American films. Some silent giants saw their stars fall, some left the industry refusing to adapt to the microphone, but others saw their popularity soar. Mary Pickford made her sound debut with the poorly received Coquette, won an Oscar and slowly backed out of the screen, maintaining her professional stake in the industry she helped create. Clara Bow, made a successful transition to sound, but with one too many scandals and a paralyzing fear of the microphone she withdrew for a life of solitude. \r\n\r\nJohn Gilbert one of the silent era\'s greatest romantic leads (he received top billing over Garbo in their silent films) quickly saw his career come to a screeching halt when people heard this heartthrob had a high pitched voice. The sad truth of the matter was that his voice wasn\'t that high, but a bad early sound recording had the ability to ruin things like this. In 1933, arguably the finest year in American cinema he was given one more chance opposite Greta Garbo in her finest role, Queen Christina. Garbo was one of those performers who saw her star rise to an unprecedented height. She soon earned the right to pick and choose her roles, and take an unheard of 18 months off, including a full two years before she even made a talking picture. Her MGM co-star in The Grand Hotel also saw a boost in her career at this time. Joan Crawford found that if the new talking pictures wanted singing and dancing she could comply quite easily, and saw her roles gradually expand from the plucky shopgirls she was forced to play for years on end. \r\n\r\nThere were some casualties of the change over. D. W. Griffith made his last film in 1930, the flop Abraham Lincoln, and found himself penniless when he died a has been of a Victorian era. Erich Von Stroheim who seemed to reach a creative milestone with The Wedding March saw Queen Kelly completely taken from his hands, butchered in part by his temperamental star (Gloria Swanson, another casualty) and his directing career unceremoniously came to a close. Douglas Fairbanks and Lon Chaney both saw their careers cut short by health problems and neither man made it to see 1940. However they became the first generation of a Hollywood legacy as both Fairbanks and Chaney Jr. would have successful careers in acting.\r\n\r\nNow for the winners. Hollywood no longer needed faces, they needed voices. Daredevil action stars and comedians now needed to be agile with their dancing. the most logical place was Broadway where a great number of talents came through. Comedy was affected immediately. Buster Keaton signed an ill advised MGM contract where despite a few decent efforts was vastly beneath his independent work. Harold Lloyd stayed busy, and immensely popular, but these physical geniuses were being replaced by witty, fast talking, jokesters. W. C. Fields made hating children funny, Mae West made censors irate, but no one had as much of an impact as the Marx Brothers. These four legends made their greatest films during this period, and no matter how much I might like A Night at the Opera or A Day at the Races, the two films cannot hold up to the free form anarchy they had at Paramount. MGM mandated a romantic subplot, musical interludes, and a much more controlled atmosphere. At Paramount, Harpo was free to tear up residents mail (Coconuts), shovel books into a fire (Horse Feathers), \"sing\" like Maurice Chevalier (Monkey Business), and make a peanut vender\'s life a living hell (Duck Soup).\r\n\r\nParamount not only had the Marx Brothers, Fields, and West but at this time they also had Ernst Lubitsch and the great team of Von Sternberg and Dietrich, all of which seemed at their peak. They could get away with a great deal pushing the envelope with sex and subtext. Lubitsch, along with Rouben Mamoulian (another Broadway import) took the musical out of the stage and into a mystical kingdom far far away. Mamoulian immediately came and was unintimidated by the monster of sound. He orchestrated his films for wall to wall music and action, including the famously conceived opening of Love Me Tonight. His camera never ceased to wander, and every trick in the book was utilized for his debut Applause. Mamoulian along with Universal Studios also helped to make a happy home and golden age for the American horror film. Mamoulian only made Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but that was arguably the most critically respected film (at the time) from the genre. Universal however started the ball rolling, and in this time period produced Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, The Old Dark House, The Invisible Man, Island of Lost Souls, and The Black Cat among others. \r\n\r\nYet Universal studios greatest triumph of this era and in my opinion quite possibly the greatest film ever made was Lewis Milestone\'s Oscar winning All Quiet on the Western Front, a film that benefited rather than suffered by having no orchestral score. The film opened the doors wide for expression in the sound era. The camera could move, sounds could be layered on of each other, action could be staged on several planes, and films at this time could be violent. Of course the violence in Milestone\'s film wouldn\'t compare sensationally to the trio of gangster films released in this era. Say what you will about gangster films, and even how great later gems like Angels With Dirty Faces, High Sierra, and White Heat might be, but its really hard to top the trilogy of Little Caesar, The Public Enemy, and of course Scarface. These films lived by the production code rule that the killer be punished, but no one cared how they died, it was how they lived. Who can forget the childish glee Paul Muni\'s Tony has when he first discovers the Tommy Gun? Or James Cagney shoving that grapefruit in Mae Clarke\'s face (unfortunately the underrated Clarke would be remembered better for this than any of her lead acting work)? These films were the one\'s that got the ball rolling, and speaking of balls, none of the future gangster films even remotely came close to capturing the fire of these originals. \r\n\r\nHow about the musical though? This was the first truly original genre to come in the sound era. After all despite Ernst Lubitsch filming silent versions of operettas, the whole idea of song and dance within film was impossible without sound. 1929 brought about the first all talking all singing all dancing crap usually in the form of a revue. This worked for Chuck Reisner\'s Hollywood Revue, and Harry Beaumont\'s Broadway Melody, but it wouldn\'t be long before these films would seem ridiculous. The fairy tale musicals of Lubitsch and Mamoulian showed that something can be done, but it wasn\'t until Busby Berkley choreographed 42nd Street that the show musical gave us something beyond what we would see on a stage. 42nd Street might be viewed by many as a historically significant film, but few people forget that its actually a pretty damn good picture. Along with Footlight Parade, Golddiggers of 1933, and Dames Berkley set a new standard in musical staging, one that probably never would be equaled. To Berkley people were props, and pretty girls seemed to grow on trees. Even Berkley couldn\'t top this in his future work and his films as a director pale in comparison to these original four. \r\n\r\nYou may be able to offer a better response, but I just love this era of film. That small window when Hollywood learned to speak before it was told what it could say. An industry in crisis that quickly made itself stronger than ever, one that couldn\'t be beaten by sound or a world wide depression.','6c9651e477db90e3a829174c1dd01ebf',0,'','qc8exg2F',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7254,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186199820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','Personally, I adore the couple of years between 1965 and 1975 most. This is very subjective of course because I know that these years were not nearly as important for the evolution of cinema as the era of silent cinema and the 30ies / 40ies for example, but in this few years, something was going on that never ever happened before or after and is really hard to describe (especially if your english is limited...). No matter which kind of film, which genre, which country or director - almost everybody everywhere did very unusual, energetic movies at this time. A very special energy. Maybe not important movies, but movies that could\'ve been only made at this time the way they were made. No matter if you look at the \"big\" films of the time (\"2001\", \"James Bond\", \"Torn Curtain\", \"Solaris\", \"Zabriskie Point\", \"The dirty dozen\", \"Point Blank\"), the cheaper, trashier or slightly controversial flicks (\"Petulia\", \"The bed sitting room\", \"Barbarella\", \"Danger: Diabolik\", \"Night of the living dead\", \"My lover, my son\", \"Deep end\", \"I am curious: yellow\"), the well reputated arthouse cinema (Antonioni, Iosseliani, Tarkowskij, Zulawski, Bergman, Skolimowski, Vera Chytilov, Fassbinder, Roland Klick, Leone, Klaus Lemke, Dario Argento a. m. o.) or the usual genre cinem - everywhere everything seemed to be unleashed without limits or tight rules. Almost 50 percent of my favourite movies belong to this 10 years. Some years ago, I thought it was only my fascination for the history of this years but nowadays I realize that I can\'t really explain it. Just by chance, I permantly discover something new, incredibly exciting from these years, movies of a kind I didn\'t even think to be in existence.\r\n\r\nThin explanation, but I can\'t tell much more.','22c72efbdadd4ab70414b6be7f70a3d6',0,'','nwsEZmV6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7255,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1186200780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','I see your point, this was the era of the new waves, and many countries began making film, others developed a remarkable voice, and it helps that at this time (at least part of it) the Soviet Union drastically lightened up on their censorship of films made in Eastern Europe. In the late 60\'s you had \"New Waves\" from Japan, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Sweden, Italy, and of course America\'s \"Easy Riders and Raging Bulls\". Many critics and historians who grew up in this time period are leaning towards this (which is certainly understandable) so you\'re not alone. I can come up with as many valid points to your argument as my own. \r\n\r\nHowever what we fail to see from this period is how clueless Hollywood really was. Lots of credit goes to brilliant executives like Robert Evans at Paramount for green lighting projects like Rosemary\'s Baby, Chinatown, and of course the Godfather films, but for every Godfather was a Swarm, Funny Lady, and Shaft\'s Big Score. This doesn\'t mean that 30\'s cinema is without blemish, but never in film did so many overbudgeted pieces of junk come out, even though the present Hollywood is certainly challenging that. I\'m more familiar with this period of film on a general level, having seen more films from this period than the one I mentioned, however much more was going on at this point, so I think percentage wise I\'m far from covering all bases.','3768f8ccd6040e042a0c782b6f289cc3',0,'','M6Jh2VPr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7256,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189805880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','First of all, could it be that the original title of the thread was meant to be Best Era/Movement in Film (History)? \r\n\r\nAnyways... some time ago I probably would have answered like R6dw6C, and I still think that the majority of the most interesting films I\'ve seen have been made during the 60s and early 70s. But thinking about it now, I\'m not so sure that quantity and diversity really get my vote. Otherwise i would also have to consider wpqx\'s choice, though I would never limit it to the United States. 1929 - 1933 was an incredibly innovative and interesting period for films all over the world. I love early sound and camera experiments (Films like The Front Page, Little Ceasar, A nous la libert, M, Frankenstein, Dezerter, Entuziazm, Kameradschaft come to my mind), and I want to see more.\r\n\r\nBut if I listen to my gut feelings, there are three time periods I currently find most interersting. \r\n\r\nOn top of my list would probably be the period roughly between 1909 and 1914/1917 (depending on whether films could be produced during WWI in some countries). The evolution of the medium was undergoing many shifts, and the co-existence of short and epic films (ranging from ten minutes to four hours) and the incredibly diverse stylistics of many companies, not to speak of the individual national preferences was very interesting. I think that there was probably never a time when films were speaking with as many diverse and interesting voices as in those times before the war. The amount of films produced is also incredible, and the fact that directors or actors were either the focus of a film or not important at all (nevertheless this was a real period for an auteur theory imho) is particularly interesting. It also seems like mostly national films were most succesfull in each country and there wasn\'t a clear stylistic or a mainstream to follow. So many thing changed in a period of 5 years that it seems incredible. Unfortunately not many films from this very important era survive today.\r\n\r\nAnother candidate would be 1918 till 1928. From what I\'ve seen this is the period from which I enjoy most films. That doesn\'t mean that I like most films I\'ve seen from the time or that I\'ve seen many great ones. It has probably more to do with the fact that I love the stylistics of silent cinema, and it seems that in this period silent films were \"ultimately\" defined as how they are largely seen from today\'s perspective. Films entered the modern age, and movements were blossoming all over the world as (American) cinema was deciding an aesthetic assumption of how a proper film had to be made. I think there were never as many movements and trends in such a short period of time (expressionism, impressionism, surrealism, poetism, naturalism, the soviet film theories, etc.) while there was seemingly less and less experimentation in mainstream productions, which finally materialized as we know it today. I enjoy the conventions of those times as much as the innovative work. Unfortunately the whole medium was rethought with the breakthrough of sound in 28. I would have wished for at least 5 or 10 more years of silent cinema.\r\n\r\nThe third contender for most interesting era in film are in my opinion the 1980s. Yes, you are really reading this from me - the much loathed consumerist, superficial, vacuous 80s that brought us Reagan, Thatcher, Yuppies and the Porn industry as we know it today, the time when Pop Music seemingly made some last hopeless breaths before degenerating into the mindless trash of the 90s. It seems like \"globalization\" and its negative effects we witness today really got a boost back then, but -\r\nIf I look at the films made during the 80s today I find much innocence even in the dumbest of commercial products in a way that is totally lacking in today\'s mass production of mindless junk. And if I roam through the forgotten or unknown artisitc waters of those times I uncover as many great films and filmmakers as in any other area. The only problem seems to be that only few people seemed to care about those, and I completely cannot understand why all the excellent films weren\'t hailed as enthusiastically as many products of the various new waves during the 60s. It seems that the people (and critics) actually tried to purposefully dumb down their lives because of the socio-political changes during the 70s. If I think of films like Ken McMullen\'s Zina (1985), Straub and Huillet\'s Klassenverhaltnisse (Class Relations / 1983) or mamoru Oshii\'s Tenshi no tamago (Angel\'s Egg / 1985) they are as interesting experimental and daring as narrative films can be. And we also have Chris Marker\'s Sans Soleil (Sunless / 1982), Andrzej Zulawski\'s Possession (1981), Jaqcues Doillon\'s La Pirate (The Pirate / 1984) or La vie de famille (Family Life / 1985), Frank Beyer\'s Der Aufenthalt (The Turning Point / 1983), Jerzy Skolimowski\'s Moonlighting (1982), Sogo Ishii\'s Bakuretsu toshi (Burst City / 1982), Olivier Assayas\' L\'enfant de l\'hiver (Winters Child / 1989), Mohsen Makhmalbaf\'s Arousi-ye Khouban (Marriage of the Blessed / 1989) or Bicycleran (The Cyclist / 1987), Abbas Kiarostami\'s Khane-ye doust kodjast? (Where is my friends house? / 1987), Margarethe von Trotta\'s Rosa Luxemburg (1986), Isao Takahata\'s Hatoru no haka (Grave of the Fireflies / 1988 ) , Hayao Miyazaki\'s Majo no takkybin (Kiki\'s Delivery Service / 1989) or Tonari no Totoro (My Neighbor Totoro / 1988 ) , Patrice Leconte\'s Monsieur Hire (M. Hire / 1989), Leos Carax\'s Mauvais sang (Bad Blood / 1986), Jean Jacques Beineix\'s Diva (1981) or La lune dans le caniveau (The Moon in the Gutter / 1983), Tian Zhuangzhuang\'s Dao ma zei (The Horse Thief / 1986), Chia-Liang Liu\'s Wu lang ba gua gun (Eight Diagram Pole Fighter / 1983), Samuel Fuller\'s The Big Red One (1980), Maurice Pialat\'s Loulou (1980) and the three incredible feature films by Emir Kusturica and Peter Greenaway. And how about Jim Jarmusch or David Lynch?\r\n\r\nI\'m not even talking about the (late) works by established masters like Fellini, Kurosawa, Scorsese, Svankmajer, Angelopoulos, Resnais, Rivette, Varda, Godard, Fassbinder, Wenders, Herzog, Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Bresson, and who else and I still haven\'t mentioned any of the Hollywood gems (Heaven\'s Gate, Eyewitness, Pennies from Heaven, Blade Runner, Conan the Barbarian, Victor/Victoria, Scarface, The Hunger, The Terminator, Back to the Future, Ferris Buellers Day Off, The Princess Bride, The Accidental Tourist, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, Batman, to name but a few).\r\n\r\nI know I\'ve still forgotten too many (Claire Denis, Catherine Breillat, Zhang Yimou, Luc Besson spring to mind) although I\'ve only seen very little from the vast amount of films that were made in the 80s. If somebody is complaining about the poor state of (World) cinema during those times, I simply have to say: look again! If this is poor, give me poor every day','6c39b7633d15144d2b60c83bc14b1e57',0,'','Aiwq5sYC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7257,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189828980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','Very informative post, A. You did an admirable job sticking up for the 80s, a decade which has much to offer but doesn\'t seem to find many takers.','cae17f2e28b4f69f559c71f614d2e04a',0,'','uo6qe2XB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7258,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189991040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','Big Thanks. It is really underappreciated. I loathed it myself when i was younger... \r\nGot some help from Olaf Moeller inspiration wise, btw','4ff5c434d7bc62e792742e8fce72a9a1',0,'','x3Mmfja5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7259,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190014620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','I can see your argument, but the one thing I put down about silent film is that the pictures themselves didn\'t seem \"complete\". Leaving out sound is a vital part of a film, and I know a great many foley artists who would weep at your comments. I have never been a huge fan of films made pre-Birth of a Nation. I enjoy watching them from an evolutionary perspective, but it is simply groundwork for what came later, and I still find the films too constricted and many are painfully slow. The twenties are a fascinating period and as the month of July would prove for me, I happen to have a hard on for silent films largely from this period. \r\n\r\nMy knowledge of 80\'s world cinema is abysmal so my opinion on that is going to be limited. I have frequently found though that my favorite films from the decade are often films that get little serious recognition outside of limited \"cult\" audiences. However as people are starting to appreciate more and more films from this era the tide may be changing. \r\n\r\nMy original goal in limiting my choice was to be specific. Saying 1920\'s world cinema is broad, but saying silent Soviet films from the montage school would fit the original idea behind my choice. However you could just look at my first post as an attempt to glorify all that Hollywood achieved in those early sound years.','6c50ccf84f88c854bcab1d2029de8d15',0,'','P0gdEn62',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7260,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190020980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','Ah, now I get it. I guess I was really to encompassing then. But I don\'t think I really have a movement I enjoy most at the moment. I usually tend to like movements and countermovements at a given time, so time periods are what counts in my book. Soviet films from the montage school are very high in my book, and i tend to enjoy the numerous writings as well. Thanks for the reminder \r\n\r\nI also thought that pre- WWI cinema was very limited, but I\'ve changed my opinion completely and have made a 180 turn since I\'ve seen more, and especially read more about this era. Now it seems like the most under-explored time in film history to me, and an era that has to be reconsidered completely (something that\'s luckily already happening for the last twenty years). And as you know, I\'m a sucker for slow films and static deep focus camerawork','ba1a3165cffa466f11df18555a04a015',0,'','5Pcw9gay',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7261,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190157480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','I suppose but many of these films are almost too static. I can appreciate the somewhat amateurish quality of them as evolutionary material, but its hard to get into some of them. You are right though that the era is not often discussed but that is changing. You\'d fit right in at the University of Chicago.','96de7ed1d61bb542e31c097e75dfc143',0,'','DhvqW5Ak',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7262,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190169420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','Glad to hear it. Maybe you could recommend me','140c994e6f0734b20cb9c7f28cf541bd',0,'','RmkNTFf8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7263,1526,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1190169840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Era in Film/Movement?','A lovely school just costs a billion dollars a year','d9afcc62a23b1e3ca03eaad65212f23c',0,'','tULCW5xs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7264,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1155781620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Top Ten of the 70s','Since we have already the thread on the best films of the 70s, here is your opportunity to list the cream of the crop.\r\n\r\nMy Top Ten:\r\n\r\n1. La maman et la putain The Mother and the Whore (Jean Eustache / France / 1973)\r\n2. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick / UK / 1975)\r\n3. Zabriskie Point (Michelangelo Antonioni / USA / 1970)\r\n4. Mes petites amoureuses (Jean Eustache / France / 1974)\r\n5. 1900 (Bernardo Bertolucci / Italy, France, West Germany)\r\n6. Cra cuervos Raise Ravens (Carlos Saura / Spain) \r\n7. A Clockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick / UK / 1971)\r\n8. El Topo The Mole (Alejandro Jodorowsky / Mexico / 1970)\r\n9. Sal o le 120 giornate di Sodoma Salo, or The 120 Days of Sodom (Pier Paolo Pasolini / Italy / 1976)\r\n10. Deux hommes dans la ville Two Men in Town (Jos Giovanni / France, Italy / 1973)','2f5c0c9fc1aff5e43ed294973748796b',0,'','h6GXlsmx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7265,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1158142740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'MikLosk','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','I\'ve just seen Picnic at Hanging Rock. So I\'ve decided to update the list.\r\n\r\n1. Mirror (Andrey Tarkovsky, USSR, 1975)\r\n1. Picnic at Hanging Rock (Peter Weir, Australia, 1975)\r\n2. Don\'t Look Now (Nicholas Roeg, Italy/UK, 1973)\r\n3. Death in Venice (Luchino Visconti, Italy, 1971)\r\n4. Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, Sweden, 1972)\r\n5. Stalker (Andrey Tarkovsky, USSR, 1979)\r\n6. Profession: Reporter (Michelangelo Antonioni, Italy, 1975)\r\n7. Macbeth (Roman Polanski, UK/USA, 1971)\r\n8. Alice in the Cities (Wim Wenders, Germany, 1974)\r\n9. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, UK, 1975)\r\n10.Amarcord (Federico Fellini, Italy, 1973)','2f1f35351e253ccb59eac3f4fe7ffefa',0,'','suNclfSv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7266,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1160522100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','It\'s been long enough\r\n\r\n1. The Godfather (US - Francis Ford Coppola) \r\n2. Star Wars (US - George Lucas)\r\n3. Apocalypse Now (US - Francis Ford Coppola)\r\n4. Annie Hall (US - Woody Allen)\r\n5. All That Jazz (US - Bob Fosse)\r\n6. The Conformist (France/Italy/West Germany - Bernardo Bertolucci)\r\n7. A Clockwork Orange (UK - Stanley Kubrick)\r\n8. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (UK - Terry Gilliam/Terry Jones)\r\n9. Mean Streets (US - Martin Scorsese)\r\n10. Quadrophenia (UK - Frank Roddam)\r\n\r\nDamn hard list to make, now I know why I didn\'t do it before.','36ca4edf8a1c319e4a141403959afd0d',0,'','0VAsDtWa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7267,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168216560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','1.Mirror (Tarkovsky)\r\n2.Celine and Julie go Boating (Rivette)\r\n3.Alice in the Cities (Wenders)\r\n4.Pakeezah (Amrohi)\r\n5.The Passenger (Antonioni)\r\n6.Spirit of the Beehive (Erice)\r\n7.Claire\'s Knee (Rohmer)\r\n8.Stalker (Tarkovsky)\r\n9.Kings of the Road (Wenders)\r\n10.Aguirre Wrath of God (Herzog)\r\n\r\n+\r\nTale of Tales, Apocalypse Now, Manhattan, Hearts and Minds..','5245bafc0049ca6d1053fdc9276c13de',0,'','msjhcZAi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7268,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187262540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','Usually I don\'t like lists but in front of this thread, I will try again although it\'s really cruel to chose 10 favourite movies from your personally most loved decade. All the following films gained 10 out of 10 from me. I couldn\'t write down my all time favourites - some memories are fresh, some old. I need to rewatch \"Eraserhead\", \"The wicker man\", \"Sal\", \"Max et les ferrailleurs\", \"Frenzy\", \"Ali: Fear eats the soul\", \"Halloween\", \"Keoma\", \"Deadlock\" and so many others so here are some current darlings...\r\n\r\nConfessione di un commissario di polizia al procuratore della repubblica / Confessions of a Police captain in front of the republic\'s prosecutor (Italy 1971, Damiano Damiani)\r\n\r\nDon\'t look now (UK/Italy 1973, Nicolas Roeg)\r\n\r\nSuspiria (Italy/West Germany 1976, Dario Argento)\r\n\r\nProfessione: Reporter / Profession: Reporter (Italy/Spain/France 1975, Michelangelo Antonioni)\r\n\r\nFaustrecht der Freiheit / Fist-right of freedom (West Germany 1974, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)\r\n\r\nMontana Sacra / The holy mountain (Mexico/USA 1973, Alejandro Jodorowsky)\r\n\r\nProfondo Rosso / Deep red (Italy 1975, Dario Argento)\r\n\r\nTurks fruit / Turkish Delight (Netherlands 1973, Paul Verhoeven)\r\n\r\nA clockwork orange (UK 1971, Stanley Kubrick)\r\n\r\nLa polizia chiede aiuto / The Police wants to help aka What have they done to your daughters (Italy 1974, Massimo Dallamano)\r\n\r\nAnd there are still so many left. Not to mention that I haven\'t seen the later works of Tarkowskij and Bergman (just as an example.) And no word about my beloved Fellini... Well, it\'s my own guilt. I shouldn\'t have visited this thread.','a9e2650b6325e898559d0290fee8af13',0,'','r4aUnYgD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7269,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187327160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','After my list was done I instantly realized there\'s no way to get \'em all. Hence the reason I generally prefer our best films of the . . . threads, better way to offer films from each year. Your list seems to be rather Italian heavy, but lord knows mine is Anglo-American through and through. Holy Mountain is an odd choice, and hopefully I\'ll get a chance to watch the new official DVD of it. The version I saw was a Japanese import and even then it was probably 6 or 7 years ago.','ee1efb1ce363c28cd86c42ebdf74342f',0,'','xcRedXWM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7270,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187407080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'R6dw6C','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','The biggest problem is that there were too many great movies made in the Seventies. Especially, in my opinion, in Italy. I definitely need to see more asian and english-language cinema from this glorious decade. For example (shame on me) I still haven`t seen such classics as \"The Godfather\" and \"Jaws\", also none of John Cassavetes\' films up to now. A few years ago I catched a big trauma about american cinema that even lasts until today a bit so there`s no way to get around it in the future. Fortunately, my last experiences were almost all extremely great (\"Vanishing Point\" - what an underrated film!) and I\'m really excited about the video copy of \"Get Carter\" that was given to me by a friend...','b28b5df5b627339021a08fa364f72528',0,'','ZH9T5eqk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7271,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187411880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','I\'d definitely recommend the Godfather before Get Carter and Vanishing Point, but I did enjoy the latter. Can\'t say Get Carter did much for me though.','ed872cf514548e6afa962dfa8de06b41',0,'','CP5KafpU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7272,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1187439120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','Looking through all your lists has just confirmed to me that there\'s no way in the world I could knock up a top 10 from the 70\'s or any decade, there\'s just too much choice. \r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','995012e80328ed6a8adbcd9eb22e9596',0,'','UJgK2QA9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7273,1527,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1189806300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Top Ten of the 70s','Yes, it\'s so difficult. Looking at my own Top Ten, I\'m already wondering if i should change it','d0be150089e95a85c8ac82688611d157',0,'','6uJ3gKla',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7274,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167337380,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Best of 2006','I think it`s about time that we start our own thread on the best films and movie experiences in 2006.\r\nI`m currently on holidays and don`t have regular access to the internet, so it might take me a while to post my own lists (and they will be pretty extensive).\r\nMeanwhile I`ll be glad to read yours.\r\n\r\nAnd feel free to write as lot as you want about anything you want that is related to this topic. We don`t have to simply post Top Tens! How about best movie moments, best directors, your best time at the cinema, etc.?\r\n\r\n[Edit]Title.','c3d4d0146dd5db28d27a04d38580ccbf',0,'','h8aR7btS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7275,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167349440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Well 2006 was the first time I did an unintentional double feature, and more than once no less. The first time was back in May when the films playing were The Proposition and A Prarie Home Companion. I bought a ticket to The Proposition as this seemed the more interesting film of the bunch. While leaving the theater I looked over and realized that A Prarie Home Companion was playing one theater down, and was starting in about 20 minutes. Being one of those huge multi-plexes that you can easily get lost in, no one was the wiser. As it turned out A Prarie Home Companion wound up being far more enjoyable, and is somewhat bittersweet, because it now has the stigma of the only Altman film I was able to see on the big screen.\r\n\r\nThe next came not too long ago when I went to see The Fountain. Having had enormous expectations I was severely let down. Leaving the theater, I noticed that there wasn\'t much playing at this theater, let alone much to see. I went to the bathroom which was located on the other end, and while walking out I noticed that Bobby was playing, and I timed it so well that it was already half way through the previews. I sat down and this film that I may have completely bypassed otherwise has become the front runner as my favorite film of the year. Ironically enough The Prestige was playing right after this, but there are only so many hours you can sit in a theater.\r\n\r\nNow the best of these incidents happened a few days after seeing Bobby and The Fountain. I timed a trip to Landmark\'s to see The Queen and Fast Food Nation, I literally planned to sneak in this time. Anyways The Queen ends and I\'m completely unaffected. I leave and Fast Food Nation hasn\'t finished the previous showing. I call a friend and we kill the appropriate amount of time, then I go into the now empty theater. A few people go in with me, and then an usher follows us. I think like a guilty man that the jig is up, and I\'ve been found out. Not quite, apparently there is a Co2 problem and the theater is being evacuated. Show your ticket stubs in the lobby and we\'ll give you a free pass for any show. Well I wander down there, and stand in line like veryone else. I show the man handing out the passes my ticket for a film that shows 3 hours ago, and sure enough I get a free pass anyways. So in reward for trying to sneak in a movie, I was given a free pass. And for what its worth yet again Fast Food Nation wound up being the better film.\r\n\r\nI\'ll hold off a little on making my top ten list, as I just now got a membership to Facets again, and have a lot of catching up to do.','7cb4d9f879e61e29df0db642959f08c3',0,'','BRs3MpE0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7276,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167380520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','I\'m glad you decided to start this thread, A. Our own lists are what\'s most important here, and so I\'ve edited the title and moved the other thread elsewhere.','6e996453cc5249554bcb993d34c1727d',0,'','1LzP6dxY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7277,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167396540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Best of 2006','How about best movie moments, best directors, your best time at the cinema, etc.?\r\n\r\nGreat idea A! This has been a good year for me and I\'ve watched more current films (thanks to the festival) than I usually get to do. I\'ll get down to the list later. But, here are some random thoughts on \"best movie moments\".\r\n\r\nFor me, the three most poignant and cinematically striking moments in 2006 come from I Don\'t Want To Sleep Alone - the floating mattress that concludes the film, the making out with ridiculous gasmasks and a more muted moment where the characters watch a Tamil song sequence on television. The three moments, together, constitute an insight into urban alienation in its different aspects - alienation from the other, from language, from a sense of place and location, from the global city, and ultimately from a lived reality.\r\n\r\nStylistically, another great moment comes from a virtually unknown Indonesian film called Opera Jawa by Garin Nugroho. The familiar story of Sita\'s abduction by Ravana from The Ramayana is transformed and choreographed into a dreamlike dance sequence. Accompanied by gamelan, the stylised confrontation happens in a kind of ring made up with dried tender coconut. I have no words to describe this moment. It has to be seen to be believed! What an eye Nugroho has for the performing/movement arts and its cinematic representation. \r\n\r\nBordering on the disgusting and the grotesque, Tatsushi Omori\'s Whispering of the Gods (somehow reminiscent of Bunuel\'s Viridiana) concludes with a blow job in a monastery\'s chicken pen, amidst cartloads of chicken @#%$. Very disturbing closure to a provocative film.\r\n\r\nAbderrahmane Sissako\'s Bamako provided two moments that made me ponder about the critical power of cinema. An old man, called in as a witness for the prosecution sits through many days of arguments against and for the World Bank. He comes up to the witness box towards the end and delivers a heartwrenching appeal, part song, part chant, that works in two ways. It is an appeal that works against the grain of the serious discourse throughout the film. But, it also draws attention to how language has been one of the most powerful tools of colonisation, much more potent than brute force. A brief chant/song (as opposed to lengthy discursive attempts) shows how language fails as a tool to combat the neo-colonialism unleashed by the World Bank. If Africa has to articulate itself, it has to address the politics of language. \r\n\r\nThe second moment from Bamako, is the hilarious pseudo-Western sequence of an imagined film, Death in Timbutktu starring Danny Glover and Elia Suleiman, that the villagers watch on television. Completely absurd, the insertion of this clip is a strong, though tongue-in-cheek, critique of the colonisation of the African mind by First World entertainment like Hollywood. It also pointed to the largescale representational use of Africa as an exotic locale and a painted backdrop by both the First World entertainment and arthouse creative industries under the guise of being sensitive to its cultures. Since I\'d seen \"Winter\'s Journey\" and \"Sounds of Sand\", I couldn\'t but agree. Managing to do much more, in the space of these two moments, than any well-compiled postcolonial theory reader, the chant and Death in Timbutktu are testimony to the power of cinema.','d20475c3ec9c057a358f18dd44e52f42',0,'','hB1Z9yVt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7278,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167398280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Both the Tsai and the Hugrohu (along with Encina\'s Hamaca Paraguaya, Apichatpong\'s Syndromes and a Century, Haroun\'s Daratt, Malatsi\'s Meokgo and the Stickfighter and Ghobadi\'s Half Moon) were commisssoned for Mozart\'s 250th anniversary under the banner \"New Crowned Hope.\" Reportedly, they took inspiration from the master\'s \"1791The Magic Flute,\" \"the Requiem\" and \"La clemenza di Tito.\" Needless to say, I\'m looking forward to these films.','5f51c89097006ad00f5eaa169906633d',0,'','ZPU6Bhug',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7279,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167404160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Best of 2006','I am also looking forward to the other films under the New Crowned Hope banner, especially, Apichatpong\'s Syndromes and a Century. Friends of a friend, who saw it, say that it tops their 2006 list \r\n\r\nM\r\n\r\nP.S. My boss met Garin Nugroho at a non-profit Asian network meeting in Kyoto before the Kerala festival. I have raved and ranted about Opera Jawa since I got back from Kerala and finally coerced him to write to Garin for a copy of the film','5f66f83fffeee5634766f9ccafb4ecee',0,'','bspc7W03',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7280,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167473040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Syndromes will come out in the U.S. next year (and so will the Tsai). Though I\'d be very surprised if Opera Jawa gets a distribution deal. \r\n\r\nI hope your effort pays off.','514cabbbd1cfeab465bac649b70d8eb8',0,'','LnqPjJDx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7281,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167476460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Best of 2006','I\'ll be surprised too if it gets a release because it is a difficult film to get into and might even alienate the arthouse market because of the music. Gamelan is such a cultivated taste. It took me some 15-20 minutes to really get hooked. And, I was witness to a 500-seater theatre emptying out during the film. There were some 20 of us left at the end.\r\n\r\nM','d6cc673fa2d2b2deff0bea189ad087d0',0,'','hKolH0jC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7282,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167504900,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Sounds like a film that could be to my taste. But I always feel bad if people walk out of a film I consider (at least) interesting, although they have paid for it, and especially during a festival. This also happened a couple of times at the Berlin Film Festival this year.\r\nBy chance I got the opportunity to rewatch Reygadas` Batailla en el cielo in my hometown Ptuj (yes, it got theatrical distribution here ) and one third of the people walked out of it during the first 30 minutes, while another third seemed bored or laughed at it. Afterwards I talked with a few of those, who told me that they didn`t understand what the film was trying to say. Too bad that many people dismiss difficult films very fast and even more don`t even think about watching movies more than once...\r\n\r\nI would like to see the films madhubam mentioned, and am anxious to see the Top list. \r\n\r\nI`ll make mine later cause I`m going to watch Tykwer`s The Perfume today and maybe also Gibson`s Apocalypto. I`m currently staying with some friends and we won`t be doing much more besides watching movies today. \r\nI think I`ll finish for now, as I have to catch ski jumping on TV. \r\n\r\nEdit: Looks like well only watch Apocalypto and ski-jumping doesn`t start until 3:30.','075a785211b1260132c2fb87b78aa2fc',0,'','a5VPH0yw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7283,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167524880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Since I don\'t believe that Battle in Heaven is a very good film, the reaction isn\'t very surprising, though I agree that every film at least deserves a chance.\r\n\r\nLooking forward to your thoughts on Perfume and Apocalypto.','9120c5165b393c217328243f2c60455a',0,'','nz7btLPT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7284,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167544140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Well, I saw Apocalypto and rated it 35/100. This doesn`t sound very good, and I liked even The Passion of the Christ more, but I`ll probably be adding some positive thoughts if there is a thread (or maybe on this one later). No Perfume though for me.','e53d35299db1d71834278be59cf2d989',0,'','1m3YTduJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7285,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167577680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I avoided Passion, but wouldn\'t mind seeing Apocalypto. I was impressed with Braveheart when I saw it, but that was before I became a film snob.','19d9056ebe25e61be5f5d8e044c8f56d',0,'','npgboQ5k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7286,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167577740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Best of 2006','So Apocalypto is as bad if not worse than I was expecting, it\'s certainly getting plenty of hype here in the UK.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','0265685e0591e1e835a96e7f9dd5f19c',0,'','cWb3NkTo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7287,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167606840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'howardschumann(d)','Re: Best of 2006','20 FAVORITES OF 2006\r\n\r\n1.    The New World\r\n\r\nThe New World is a meditation on love and loss, innocence and betrayal, and the limitations of a society based on material progress. I came away from watching it with a feeling of having traveled back in time to a land of pristine beauty where the vigorous dream of establishing a sane civilization was still alive, if only for a brief moment. Terence Malick attempts a retelling of that dream, specifically the vision of Pocahontas, the Indian princess, daughter of Algonquian Chief Powhatan, who imagined a country where both Europeans and Natives could live together without bloodshed. It is a work of stunning cinematic poetry whose appreciation, I believe, will grow with the passage of time.\r\n\r\n2.    The Death of Mr. Lazarescu\r\n\r\nDante Remus Lazarescu (Ion Fiscuteanu), a 62-year old retired engineer, is brought to an emergency room by ambulance complaining of stomach and head pains. Berated by haughty professionals for not taking good care of himself, Lazarescu is shunted from hospital to hospital as we watch his condition slowly deteriorate. Romanian director Cristi Puius Kafkaesque masterpiece, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu dramatizes the deplorable conditions in Bucharests emergency rooms where overworked and underpaid health care workers show callous indifference to their patients instead of concern and compassion. Filled with gallows humor and a profound awareness of the human condition, Lazarescu is one of the most affecting films of the year.\r\n\r\n3.    An Inconvenient Truth\r\n\r\nIn An Inconvenient Truth, former Presidential candidate Al Gore does not hold back from telling us unpleasant truths about the effects of global warming. Presented as a slide show and a personal essay, Gore asks us to look at unprecedented changes caused by global warming: powerful hurricanes fueled by warming currents in the Gulf of Mexico, temperatures in excess of 120 degrees, melting of the ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica, and an increasing envelope of air pollution in Los Angeles, Mexico City, and Shanghai, China. The film includes reflections on his sister\'s death from lung cancer and his son\'s automobile accident at the age of six. It is a spirited call to action, one of the most important and most moving films of the year.\r\n\r\n4.    V for Vendetta\r\n\r\nV for Vendetta is a Hollywood action film with a difference it is a film of ideas that has something intelligent to say about contemporary society. The film allows us to see quite clearly that revolutionaries do not come from thin air but are created when their human dignity is violated. Though it has its roots in a comic strip, it asks a serious question whether political action must be accomplished by peaceful means through established political channels or whether civil disobedience (aka terrorism) is justified when everything else has failed. V for Vendetta is not high art nor is its political message always coherent, but it is a stylish thriller that is emotionally riveting whether or not you support its basic ideas. It is also a work of conviction that succeeds in challenging our minds and, in its stirring conclusion, reinvigorating our hope for humanity.\r\n\r\n5.    Syndromes and a Century\r\n\r\nSyndromes and a Century by Thai director Apichatpong Weerasethakul is a visionary masterpiece that blurs the boundaries of past and present and, like the plays of Harold Pinter, explores the subjectivity of memory. It is an abstract but a very warm and often very funny film about the director\'s recollections of his parents, both doctors, before they fell in love. Towards the end, a funnel inhales smoke for several minutes as if memories are being sucked into a vortex to be stored forever or forgotten. Like this serenely magical film, it casts a spell that is both hypnotic and enigmatic.\r\n\r\n6.    Fateless\r\n\r\nBased on the semi-autobiographical novel by Nobel Prize winner Imre Kertesz, Fateless is a hauntingly beautiful film whose narrative unfolds in the form of miniature vignettes rather than peak dramatic moments. The film is seen from the perspective of 14-year-old Gyuri Koves (Marcell Nagy), who spent a year in Buchenwald during the last days of World War II and who provides the narration. Unlike most films about the holocaust, it stipulates that happiness and beauty can co-exist along with deprivation and despair. There have been many films about the holocaust but none quite as intimate and personal as Fateless.\r\n\r\n7.    LEnfant \r\n\r\nL\'Enfant (The Child), winner of the Palme D\'Or at the 2005 Cannes Film Festival, is a fully realized, powerful work of art that brings back Jrmie Renier as Bruno, a low-level thief, panhandler, and slacker who refuses to work and can only support his girlfriend by illegal means. Like the Dardenne\'s earlier films, the power of L\'Enfant is cumulative. As Bruno evolves and we become more aware of his vulnerability, our capacity for forgiveness is challenged and the film prompts us to grow along with the character. In an ending that is unique and painfully touching, L\'Enfant achieves a rare authenticity.\r\n\r\n8.    The Fountain\r\n\r\nDeath is a creative act and, as part of the process of rebirth, it is to be embraced, not feared. This is the message of Darren Aronofskys The Fountain, a dazzling visual extravaganza that spans thousands of years in the relationship between Thomas (Hugh Jackman) and his dying wife Izzy (Rachel Weisz). The film is about love and human emotion, but does not shrink from confronting the big questions - the nature of death, the search for enlightenment, and whether our true essence is human or divine. It has an epic feeling, a 2001 for the 21st century.\r\n\r\n9.    Bobby\r\n\r\nBobby tells the fictionalized stories of 22 people who gathered at the Ambassador Hotel Ballroom on June 4, 1968, the night Senator Robert Kennedy was shot in the pantry after winning the California Democratic primary and concluding his acceptance speech to a cheering crowd. Shown only through newsreel clips taken from his campaign for the presidency, the film is unabashedly dedicated to celebrating Bobbys memory and contrasting what he stood for with the emptiness of our present leaders. Supported by an outstanding ensemble cast that includes Anthony Hopkins, William H. Macy, Laurence Fishburne, Sharon Stone, and others, Bobby reminds us of a time when young people had leaders that they could look up to and who inspired them to think of politics as a potentially noble profession.\r\n\r\n10.    Half Nelson\r\n\r\nRyan Fleck\'s first full-length feature, Half Nelson, is a gritty, sensitive, and emotionally harrowing film that meticulously avoids the inspirational clichs of many teacher-student films and the obligatory violence of films set in the ghetto. Like his parents who were liberal activists, he wants to make an impact on the world but is disillusioned with the current political climate and, out of frustration and fatigue, has drifted into a crack-induced stupor. Gosling\'s performance of the charming but flawed teacher is completely credible, so nuanced and touching that we root for him in spite of his capacity for self-destruction.\r\n\r\n11.    Live and Become \r\n\r\nRadu Mihaileanu\'s Live and Become tells the story of Ethiopian Black Jews known as Falashas who were brought to Israel in Operation Moses in 1984 by the Israeli Mossad. The film spans fifteen years in the life of young Solomon (called Schlomo by the Israelis), describing his experiences of being alone into a foreign country that speaks a language he doesn\'t understand and filled with people of a different religion and a different color. It tells a universal story of alienation, wanting to belong, and the pain of feeling alone, feelings shared by people of all religions throughout the world.\r\n\r\n12.    Woman on the Beach\r\n\r\nA film director with writer\'s block leaves the city of Seoul to finish his script at a Korean seaside resort. An entanglement with two women, however, reveals his inner confusion and forces him to confront his self-defeating behavior. Hong Sang-soo\'s latest, Woman on the Beach, is a comedy drama about love and the complications that develop in relationships when one partner is less than candid with the other. It is a thoroughly engaging film with sparkling dialogue, complex characters, and outstanding performances from the lead actors. If it leaves us with a touch of sadness about people\'s inability to connect, it also leaves us smiling about their resilience and capacity for joy.\r\n\r\n13.    Still Life\r\n\r\nSet in the village of Fengjie, since submerged in water to make way for the Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River, Still Life by Jia Zhangke dramatizes the life of villagers who have been forced from their homes, had their traditional way of life destroyed, and sent to live in cities against their will, often having to resort to begging and garbage collecting, or even prostitution to stay alive. The film tells overlapping stories of the emotional trauma of local people caught in the dislocation at Fengjie while a new village is being built. If his future projects contain the unmatched cinematography, compelling story, and characters whose lives touch us as in Still Life, we have much to look forward to.\r\n\r\n14.    Ten Canoes\r\n\r\nPlayfully narrated by Australian icon David Gulpilil, Ten Canoes, directed by Rolf de Heer (The Tracker) and Peter Djigirr, tells a dreaming story that acts as a lesson for a young man in the tribe who feels that the youngest wife of his older brother should be his. The story has elements of kidnapping, sorcery, and revenge but is mostly about values: how a community living in a natural environment before the coming of the White man developed laws and systems to guide its people. Through myth and illuminating visuals, Ten Canoes generates a greater awareness and understanding of indigenous Australian culture and acts as an impressive counterweight to the argument that Aborigines should give up their past and join the modern world.\r\n\r\n15.    The Host\r\n\r\nKoreas top-grossing film of all time The Host is a monster movie with a difference. Seen by ten million people during the first three weeks of its Korean release, the film directed by Bong Joon-ho (Memories of Murder), combines genre-typical special effects with family drama, comedy, and political satire. Heroism belongs not to a super hero but to a slightly dysfunctional working class family that bands together when it counts to battle a mutant tadpole that has abducted a member of the family. One might imagine different subtexts to explain the film. Whatever one you decide on will work. The bottom line, however, is that The Host is a scary monster movie that is well crafted and highly entertaining and has a compelling human factor that is both comic and tragic. \r\n\r\n16.    Tsotsi \r\n17.    Keys to the House \r\n18.    Milarepa \r\n19.    Nine Lives\r\n20.    Tony Takitani\r\n\r\nMost disappointing films of 2006:\r\n\r\nMatch Point\r\nVolver\r\nWhole New Thing\r\nBroken Flowers\r\nRiding Alone for Thousands of Miles','0ba9ea88a97a84adb7375fdff4ed3856',0,'','RMjXnvtg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7288,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167617880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Didn\'t New World, Broken Flowers, Nine Lives, and Match Point come out last year? Glad to see Bobby in there, and I\'m far too poor with this year\'s candidates to make a list of my own, I have failed on being able to have something by the end of the year.','55d0e9808e29bd44353fe06b846a226c',0,'','6hTuarQp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7289,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167618540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trevor826','Re: Best of 2006','New World had its UK release this year and will definitely feature in my end of year list, a stunning start to 2006 that was never really equalled. I\'m so pleased we had the longer cut, having seen both versions I couldn\'t say where the cuts are but the longer one has so much more atmosphere.\r\n\r\nCheers Trev.','e784b5516616635a44cc906d88ec3a5e',0,'','ET3RnxF7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7290,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167621840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'howardschumann(d)','Re: Best of 2006','Yes, all of those films have an IMdb date of 2005 but were not released in Canada until 2006.','9bca22f7fbf7898521d35d209193d658',0,'','57M6SA3H',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7291,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167624120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I still haven\'t seen the extended cut of New World, and the US DVD didn\'t contain both versions. I enjoyed the version I saw, but wasn\'t overwhelmed quite to the extent I was hoping. Perhaps if I can see the full version then my attitude will change.','4083a26e6bd55e2d3d6c3982b57c163f',0,'','uQY1eV2U',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7292,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167640140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'howardschumann(d)','Re: Best of 2006','I didn\'t see the extended cut but I was still overwhelmed. The cut I saw was extended enough for me.','0180e73d9d7a65afb7facc07a8b65a88',0,'','HhytEXjV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7293,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167765240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','From Howard`s list I have only seen three movies. Two of them you will find very high on my own when I finish it, while #20 Tony Takitani made my Top Ten in 2005.\r\n\r\nI saw only the short version of The New World, but was completely won over. The second best film I saw at the Berlinale, another two rewatchesconvinced me of its qualities. There are a lot of inconsistencies in the plot, and for me it is clear that the film could have easily been one or two hours longer. Nevertheless I predict that this film will stand the test of time.','2677e28c147cd8de9740fad4d57b59d6',0,'','2T0FERtk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7294,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167768240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'justindeimen','Re: Best of 2006','I did a list on MovieXclusive which was done awhile back before I could complete a list of films I wanted to run through so this is my latest and last effort after much deliberation. Some of the films on the list below were seen in 2006 on vacation even if they are slated for a 2007 release locally. And mine\'s mainly theatrical (which means the ones I\'ve watched in and out of Singapore) cause I don\'t keep a list of the DVDs I watch because there\'s just been too many at many different times that I just couldn\'t be bothered then. New resolution, is LIST LIST LIST as much as I can I suppose.\r\n\r\nMy Theatrical Top 10 \r\n\r\n10. 4:30\r\n\r\n9. Lady in the Water\r\n\r\n8. Miami Vice\r\n\r\n7. Cache (Hidden) \r\n\r\n6. Brokeback Mountain\r\n\r\n5. Inside Man\r\n\r\n4. The New World\r\n\r\n3. The Queen\r\n\r\n2. The Departed\r\n\r\n1. Children of Men\r\n\r\nNoteworthy ones that would have made the list if it wasn\'t for my almost compulsive adherence to semantics so these are ones that I saw on DVD and/or weren\'t brought to Singapore screens.\r\n\r\nBrick\r\nThe Death of Mr Lazarescu\r\nIron Island\r\nThree Times (saw on DVD)\r\nThe Proposition\r\nSerenity\r\nDave Chapelle\'s Block Party\r\nGubra (DVD)\r\nL\'Enfant (DVD)\r\nMe and You and Everyone We Know\r\nI Am A Sex Addict (Try your best to get this. One of the best indies this year)\r\nThe Notorious Bettie Page\r\nThe Descent (again on DVD)\r\nStreet Fight (DVD, great docu)\r\nTristram Shandy: A @#%$ and Bull Story\r\nThe Wind that Shakes the Barley (Watched in Thailand cinema so I\'ll count it under here)\r\n\r\nAnd my bottom 10 list is basically a list derived from unmet expectations and disappointment. Also films I find personally insulting and conceited. So you won\'t find Material Girls or Ghost Game or whatever in here. I know listing this will put me in between a rock and a hard place, but that\'s the fun of it right?\r\n\r\nMy Theatrical and DVD Bottom 10 \r\n\r\n10. Borat\r\n\r\n9. Pulse\r\n\r\n8. United 93\r\n\r\n7. The Last Kiss\r\n\r\n6. Little Miss Sunshine\r\n\r\n5. Superman Returns\r\n\r\n4. Eragon\r\n\r\n3. Blood Diamond\r\n\r\n2. Pretty Persuasion\r\n\r\n1. Click','138e4d65a72f14e51b0dce80686a30e4',0,'','Vd3jY9SQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7295,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167777780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Damn I almost like your bottom ten more.','beaefa43cfa0740e8c95a335fb69b995',0,'','zDWqogPu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7296,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167782040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Looks like the thread is doing well. \r\nKeep your comments coming.','bd305a9d6d459abded72fa48459897cf',0,'','SKjvBYs6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7297,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167945540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bamboomedia1','Re: Best of 2006','I always think doing these lists is a bit hard. The reason is that I don\'t usually get to see the best of a particular year till around March or April of the following year when things get released on DVD. I checked at the numbers website and of the 771 movies released in 2006 I have only seen 70. (That number seems low to me since I rent at least 4-5 a week)\r\n\r\n(I am no film critic and you\'re welcome to make fun of me if you wish.) The movies I enjoyed the most:\r\n\r\nRunning Scared\r\nThank You for Smoking\r\nLonesome Jim\r\nBrick\r\nLucky Number Slevin\r\n10th & Wolf\r\nWorld Trade Center\r\nThe Descent\r\nBrothers of the Head\r\nDown in the Valley\r\nThe King\r\nA Scanner Darkly\r\nLittle Miss Sunshine\r\nThe Prestige\r\nBabel\r\nThe Fountain\r\n\r\nMost disappointing (because I was looking forward to something more) or just plain horrible:\r\n\r\nThe Wicker Man\r\nFreedomland\r\nV for Vendetta\r\nInside Man\r\nBasic Instinct 2\r\nThe Da Vinci Code\r\nWassup Rockers\r\nThe Lady in the Water\r\nThe Last Kiss\r\nMiami Vice\r\nSuperman Returns\r\nX-men: The Last Stand\r\nThe Black Dahlia\r\nEragon \r\n\r\nLike I said I have seen 5 movies in the theatres in the last 4 months so I think it is safe to say there is a lot missing from both my lists.','d6cac5bc496c97e0bbfb63f5ae8dd46e',0,'','PJ4z7VCT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7298,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167950460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I haven\'t even seen 50 films from this past year so don\'t feel too bad. If the day finally comes where I don\'t get called into work, I\'ll head out to a theater.','22adcfba923cebf01918bcb7f002e88f',0,'','MlmU3dk2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7299,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1167959160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Thanks for posting your list and opinion. Everybody is welcome, so there`s nothing to be ashamed of. I have seen about 80 new films this year, but this includes over 50 at the Berlin Film Festival. Usually I never see more than 50 \"new\" releases in a year.','3cf647663dc94307b62db794f1ab8571',0,'','0ZVkPoGB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7300,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168008660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhuban','Re: Best of 2006','Hi bamboomedia,\r\n\r\nGood to see your list here and the amazing thing is that I haven\'t got around to watching any of the films on your list! There are some 8-9 of us who keep posting all the time and it is nice to have other members here contributing to the discussion. Would like to see you and many other members posting more regularly. \r\n\r\nM','ffc0c151128752eead0f41b837b44684',0,'','xaLz40oS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7301,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168165200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','UNDISTRIBUTED FILMS (U.S.)\r\n\r\nHere\'s my list of Best \"Undistributed\" Films (2006) . (A few mentioned below have been screened in the U.S. in one capacity or another but failed to meet my guidelines for distribution.) Only the films that premiered within the last 5 years and were seen in 2006 qualified for consideration.\r\n\r\nin alphabetical order:\r\n\r\nAll the Fine Promises (Toutes ces belles promesses) - Jean-Paul Civeyrac / France-Bel\r\n\r\nBeautiful City (Shahr-e Ziba) - Asghar Farhadi / Iran\r\n\r\nBlood and Bones (Chi to Hone) - Yoichi Sai / Japan\r\n\r\nBorder Cafe (Caf Transit) - Kambuzia Partovi / Iran-Fra\r\n\r\nThe Case of the Grinning Cat (Chats perchs) - Chris Marker / France\r\n\r\nChain - Jem Cohen / U.S.-Ger\r\n\r\nCitadel - Atom Egoyan / Canada\r\n\r\nDarwin\'s Nightmare - Hubert Sauper / Austria-Bel-Fra-Can-Fin-Swe\r\n\r\nEli, Eli, Lema Sabachthani? - Shinji Aoyama / Japan\r\n\r\nGlue (Glue - historia adolescente en medio de la nada) - Alexis Dos Santos / Argentina-U.K.\r\n\r\nGrbavica: The Land of My Dreams - Jasmila Zbanic / Bosnia-Herzegovina-Aut-Ger-Cro\r\n\r\nInland Empire - David Lynch / U.S.-Fra-Pol\r\n\r\nThe Last Mitterrand (Le Promeneur du Champ de Mars) - Robert Gudiguian / France\r\n\r\nLos Muertos - Lisandro Alonso / Argentina-Fra-Ned-Swi\r\n\r\nOmkara - Vishal Bharadwaj / India\r\n\r\nPolice Beat - Robinson Devor / U.S.\r\n\r\nRegular Lovers (Les Amants rguliers) - Philippe Garrel / France\r\n\r\nThe Sky Turns (El Cielo gira) - Mercedes lvarez / Spain\r\n\r\nSocial Genocide (Memoria del saqueo) - Fernando E. Solanas / Argentina-Fra-Swi\r\n\r\nStar Spangled to Death- Ken Jacobs / U.S.\r\n\r\nStill Life (Sanxia Haoren) - Jia ZhangKe / China-HK\r\n\r\nSummer in Berlin (Sommer vorm Balkon) - Andreas Dresen / Germany\r\n\r\nThe Sun (Solntse) - Aleksandr Sokurov / Russia-Fra-Ita-Swi\r\n\r\nTale of Cinema (Geuk jang jeon) - Hong Sang-soo / S. Korea\r\n\r\nThe Taste of Tea (Cha no Aji) - Katsuhito Ishii / Japan\r\n\r\nThrough the Forest ( travers la fort) - Jean-Paul Civeyrac / France\r\n\r\nTie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks - Wang Bing / China\r\n\r\nThe Uncertainty Principle (O Princpio da Incerteza) - Manoel de Oliveira / Portugal-Fra\r\n\r\nThe Wind That Shakes the Barley - Ken Loach / U.K.-Ire-Ita-Ger-Fra-Spa\r\n\r\nLes Yves clairs - Jrme Bonnell / France','b254e05d2ade8898778a32fcfae94e94',0,'','QBgCb2UZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7302,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168720140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','\r\n1.\r\n\r\nOk, here is finally my own list with the best films of 2006. As usual, I won\'t list a Top Ten, but several lists, alongside a complete line-up of all \"new\" films I saw last year. \r\nEnjoy.\r\n\r\nBest Films of 2006 (in order of preference)\r\n\r\n01. Au-del de la haine Beyond Hatred (Olivier Meyrou / France / 2005) [97] \r\n02. Batalla en el cielo Battle in Heaven (Carlos Reygadas / Mexico, Belgium, France, Germany / 2005) \r\n03. Cach Hidden (Michael Haneke / France, Austria, Germany, Italy / 2005) \r\n04. The New World [135min. version] (Terrence Malick / USA / 2005) \r\n05. Le chiavi di casa The Keys to the House (Gianni Amelio / Italy, France, Germany / 2004) \r\n06. Kaalpurush Memories in the Mist (Buddhadev Dasgupta / India / 2005) \r\n07. Amour neutre Love Neutral (Pierre Coulibeuf / France / 2005) \r\n08. \"...Es wird jemand kommen der ja zu mir sagt\" Ruth (Michael Blume / Germany / 2006) \r\n09. Mizu no hana Water Flower (Yusuke Kinoshita / Japan / 2005) \r\n10. In Between Days (So Yong Kim / USA, Canada / 2006) \r\n11. 46-okunen no koi Big Bang Love, Juvenile A (Takashi Miike / Japan / 2006) [\r\n12. La-bas Down There (Chantal Akerman / Belgium, France / 2006) \r\n13. Babooska (Tizza Covi, Rainer Frimmel / Austria, Italy / 2005) \r\n\r\n\r\nThen there were films which I probably rated too low when I saw them, and which I need to revisit. The first category is for films that could make it on my best list with a second viewing (the first three will imo become \"Classics\" in the future). The second one are just films which probably deserve a higher rating.\r\n\r\nNeed to see again \r\n\r\n01. Il regista di matrimoni \"The Wedding Director\" (Marco Bellocchio / Italy / 2006) [70] 11.14.06 \r\n02. Invisible Waves (Pen-Ek Ratanaruang / Thailand, Netherlands, South Korea, Hong Kong / 2005) [65] 2.14.06 \r\n03. Le conseguenze dell\'amore \"The Consequences of Love\" (Paolo Sorrentino / Italy / 2004) [71] 11.13.06 \r\n04. (16.) La science des rves \"Science of Sleep\" [german dubbed version] (Michel Gondry / France, Italy / 2005) [67] 10.15.06 ________________________________________________\r\n\r\n01. Babooska (Tizza Covi, Rainer Frimmel / Austria, Italy / 2005) [72] 2.13.06 \r\n02. Visul lui Liviu \"Liviu\'s Dream\" (Corneliu Porumboiu / Romania / 2004) [63] 2.14.06 \r\n03. Sommer \'04 \"Summer \'04\" [wrong aspect ratio] (Stefan Krohmer / Germany / 2006) [58] 11.16.06 \r\n04. Lucy (Henner Winckler / Germany / 2006) [58] 2.14.06 \r\n05. Kinetta (Yorgos Lanthimos / Greece / 2005) [45] 2.15.06 \r\n\r\n\r\nAnd as always, there are the inevitable number of films which are remarkable and should be seen, but didn\'t quite make it onto the top list.\r\n\r\nRecommended Films \r\n\r\n01. Offside (Jafar Panahi / Iran / 2006)\r\n02. Lenz (Thomas Imbach / Switzerland, Germany / 2006) \r\n03. Kan shang qu hen mei \"Little Red Flowers\" (Yuan Zhang / China, Italy / 2006) \r\n04. Aus der Ferne \"From far away\" (Thomas Arslan / Germany / 2006) \r\n05. Profils paysans: le quotidien (Raymond Depardon / France / 2004) \r\n06. Meninas \"Teen Mothers\" (Sandra Werneck, Gisela Camara / Brazil / 2005) \r\n07. Sobhi Digar \"Another Morning\" (Nasser Refaie / Iran / 2006) \r\n08. Jane\'s Birthday Trip (Etienne Kallos / USA / 2005) \r\n09. Vers le sud \"Heading South\" (Laurent Cantet / France, Canada / 2005) \r\n10. Dealer (Benedek Fliegauf / Hungary / 2004) \r\n11. Dave Chapelle\'s Block Party (Michel Gondry / USA / 2005) \r\n12. Les oiseaux du ciel \"Birds of Heaven\" (Eliane de Latour / France, Ivory Coast, UK / 2005) \r\n13. Be ahestegi... \"Gradually...\" (Maziar Miri / Iran / 2005) \r\n14. Sexo e claustro \"Sex and Cloister\" (Claudia Priscilla / Brazil / 2005) \r\n15. Dear Pyongyang (Yong-hi Yang / Japan / 2005)','957474b577a37e5b4604bb3d2254c9f9',0,'','dKmsjcqV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7303,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168720200,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','\r\n2.\r\n\r\nThis is the complete list iof \"New\" films which i saw in 2006 and which were elligible for any of the lists I made for that year. The numbers in brackets indicate films that were released theatrically in Germany in 2006.\r\n\r\nThe films are ranked by the rating I gave them, when I watched them for the last times (I have seen some of the films two times and more).\r\n\r\nFilms with a rating above 50 are generally considered to be good, films below that mark to be bad. Masterpieces are in bold, Films without rating are listed at the end of the list. The simple reason is that i didn\'t pay enough attention to them to rate them. But it can also have to do with the fact that I didn\'t understand the film (e.g. if it isn\'t subtitled), or that I was not in complete control of my senses...\r\n\r\n\r\n01. Au-del de la haine \"Beyond Hatred\" (Olivier Meyrou / France / 2005) [97] 2.18.06 \r\n02. (01.) Batalla en el cielo \"Battle in Heaven\" (Carlos Reygadas / Mexico, Belgium, France, Germany / 2005) [92] 12.25.06 \r\n03. (02.) Cach \"Hidden\" (Michael Haneke / France, Austria, Germany, Italy / 2005) [85] 3.12.06 \r\n04. (03.) The New World [135min. version] (Terrence Malick / USA / 2005) [85] 8.25.06 \r\n05. (04.) Le chiavi di casa \"The Keys to the House\" (Gianni Amelio / Italy, France, Germany / 2004) [84] 11.26.06 \r\n06. Kaalpurush \"Memories in the Mist\" (Buddhadev Dasgupta / India / 2005) [81] 2.17.06 \r\n07. Amour neutre \"Love Neutral\" (Pierre Coulibeuf / France / 2005) [79] 3.22.06 \r\n08. \"...Es wird jemand kommen der ja zu mir sagt\" \"Ruth\" (Michael Blume / Germany / 2006) [78] 2.18.06 \r\n09. Mizu no hana \"Water Flower\" (Yusuke Kinoshita / Japan / 2005) [76] 2.19.06 \r\n10. In Between Days (So Yong Kim / USA, Canada / 2006) [75] 2.12.06 \r\n11. 46-okunen no koi \"Big Bang Love, Juvenile A\" [bad image quality] (Takashi Miike / Japan / 2006) [75] 12.03.06 \r\n12. La-bas \"Down There\" (Chantal Akerman / Belgium, France / 2006) [75] 2.16.06 \r\n13. Kan shang qu hen mei \"Little Red Flowers\" (Yuan Zhang / China, Italy / 2006) [75] 2.16.06 \r\n14. Meninas \"Teen Mothers\" (Sandra Werneck, Gisela Camara / Brazil / 2005) [74] 2.15.06 \r\n15. Sobhi Digar \"Another Morning\" (Nasser Refaie / Iran / 2006) [74] 2.12.06 \r\n16. (05.) Offside (Jafar Panahi / Iran / 2006) [73] 2.18.06 \r\n17. (06.) Lenz (Thomas Imbach / Switzerland, Germany / 2006) [73] 12.13.06 \r\n18. Jane\'s Birthday Trip (Etienne Kallos / USA / 2005) [73] 2.18.06 \r\n19. U nergiz biskivin \"Narcissus Blossom\" (Hussein Hassan Ali, Masoud Arif Salih / Iraq, France / 2005) [73] 2.13.06 \r\n20. Babooska (Tizza Covi, Rainer Frimmel / Austria, Italy / 2005) [72] 2.13.06 \r\n21. (07.) Profils paysans: le quotidien (Raymond Depardon / France / 2004) [72] 4.07.06 \r\n22. (08.) Aus der Ferne \"From far away\" (Thomas Arslan / Germany / 2006) [72] 4.10.06 \r\n23. (09.) Vers le sud \"Heading South\" (Laurent Cantet / France, Canada / 2005) [72] 12.10.06 \r\n24. Doodh aur apheem \"Milk and Opium\" (Joel Palombo / India / 2006) [72] 2.19.06 \r\n25. Le conseguenze dell\'amore \"The Consequences of Love\" (Paolo Sorrentino / Italy / 2004) [71] 11.13.06 \r\n26. (10.) Dealer (Benedek Fliegauf / Hungary / 2004) [71] 12.10.06 \r\n27. (11.) Dave Chapelle\'s Block Party [without subtitles] (Michel Gondry / USA / 2005) [71] 2.13.06 \r\n28. Les oiseaux du ciel \"Birds of Heaven\" (Eliane de Latour / France, Ivory Coast, UK / 2005) [71] 2.19.06 \r\n29. Il regista di matrimoni \"The Wedding Director\" (Marco Bellocchio / Italy / 2006) [70] 11.14.06 \r\n30. Shisso \"Dead Run\" (Sabu / Japan / 2005) [70] 2.16.06 \r\n31. (12.) Montag kommen die Fenster \"Windows on Monday\" (Ulrich Khler / Germany / 2006) [70] 12.18.06 \r\n32. (13.) Walk the Line [german dubbed version] (James Mangold / USA / 2005) [70] 4.21.06 \r\n33. (14.) Sommer vorm Balkon \"Summer in Berlin\" (Andreas Dresen / Germany / 2005) [70] 2.27.06 \r\n34. Be ahestegi... \"Gradually...\" (Maziar Miri / Iran / 2005) [69] 2.17.06 \r\n35. Non ti muovere \"Don\'t Move\" (Sergio Castellitto / Italy, Spain, UK / 2004) [68] 11.10.06 \r\n36. (15.) We Can\'t Go Home Again (Toshi Fujiwara / Japan / 2005) [68] 4.07.06 \r\n37. Inatteso \"Unexpected\" (Domenico Distilo / Italy / 2005) [68] 2.13.06 \r\n38. (16.) La science des rves \"Science of Sleep\" [german dubbed version] (Michel Gondry / France, Italy / 2005) [67] 10.15.06 \r\n39. Sexo e claustro \"Sex and Cloister\" (Claudia Priscilla / Brazil / 2005) [67] 2.18.06 \r\n40. (17.) The Piano Tuner of Earthquakes (Stephen Quay, Timothy Quay / UK, France, Germany / 2005) [67] 11.03.06 \r\n41. (18.) Mdchen am Sonntag (Rolf Peter Kahl / Germany / 2006) [67] 2.27.06 \r\n42. Conversations on a Sunday Afternoon (Khalo Matabane / South Africa / 2005) [66] 2.14.06 \r\n43. Invisible Waves (Pen-Ek Ratanaruang / Thailand, Netherlands, South Korea, Hong Kong / 2005) [65] 2.14.06 \r\n44. (19.) Notre Musique \"Our Music\" [extremely bad subtitling] (Jean-Luc Godard / France, Switzerland / 2004) [65] 4.14.06 \r\n45. Gnome (Jenny Bicks / USA / 2005) [64] 2.18.06 \r\n46. Visul lui Liviu \"Liviu\'s Dream\" (Corneliu Porumboiu / Romania / 2004) [63] 2.14.06 \r\n47. Omaret Yacobean \"The Yacoubian Building\" (Marwan Hamed / Egypt / 2005) [63] 2.11.06 \r\n48. (20.) Workingman\'s Death (Michael Glawogger / AUstria, Germany / 2005) [62] 11.17.06 \r\n49. Memory for Max, Claire, Ida and Company (Allan King / Canada / 2005) [61] 2.11.06 \r\n50. (21.) Miami Vice (Michael Mann / USA, Germany / 2006) [60] 10.04.06 \r\n51. (22.) Requiem (Hans-Christian Schmid / Germany / 2006) [60] 6.11.06 \r\n52. (23.) Sommer \'04 \"Summer \'04\" [wrong aspect ratio] (Stefan Krohmer / Germany / 2006) [58] 11.16.06 \r\n53. (24.) Lucy (Henner Winckler / Germany / 2006) [58] 2.14.06 \r\n54. Love This Time (Rhys Graham / Australia / 2006) [58] 2.18.06 \r\n55. Vipre au poing \"Viper in the Fist\" (Philippe de Broca / France, UK / 2004) [58] 8.09.06 \r\n56. (25.) 16 Blocks [german dubbed version] (Richard Donner / USA / 2006) [57] 4.27.06 \r\n57. Container [english language version] (Lukas Moodysson / Sweden / 2006) [57] 2.11.06 \r\n58. Jie guo \"Before Born\" (2005 / China / Ming Zhang) [56] 2.18.06 \r\n59. Barakat! (Djamila Sahraoui / Algeria, France / 2006) [56] 2.16.06 \r\n60. Dear Pyongyang (Yong-hi Yang / Japan / 2005) [55] 2.16.06 \r\n61. Conte de quartier (Florence Miailhe / France, Canada / 2006) [54] 6.14.06 \r\n62. Tertium non datur (Lucian Pintilie / Romania, France / 2006) [53] 2.14.06 \r\n63. (26.) Flushed Away [german dubbed version] (David Bowers, Sam Fell / UK, USA / 2006) [52] 12.09.06 \r\n64. The Notorious Bettie Page (Mary Harron / USA / 2005) [52] 2.17.06 \r\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \r\n65. (27.) Rauchzeichen \"Smoke Signals\" (Rudolf Thome / Germany / 2005) [50] 11.22.06 \r\n66. (28.) Sehnsucht \"Longing\" (Valeska Griesebach / Germany / 2005) [50] 2.15.06 \r\n67. (29.) L\'enfer \"Hell\" (Danis Tanovic / France, Italy, Belgium, Japan / 2005) [50] 9.29.06 \r\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \r\n68. (30.) Casino Royale [german dubbed version] (Martin Campbell / UK, USA, Germany, Czech Republic / 2006) [49] 11.25.06 \r\n69. (31.) Komm nher \"Come Closer\" (Vanessa Jopp / Germany / 2006) [47] 2.17.06 \r\n70. Kinetta (Yorgos Lanthimos / Greece / 2005) [45] 2.15.06 \r\n71. La bestia nel cuore \"The Beast in the Heart\" (Cristina Comencini / Italy, UK, France, Spain / 2005) [45] 11.15.06 \r\n72. Derecho de familia \"Family Law\" (Daniel Burman / Argentina, Italy, Spain, France / 2006) [40] 2.19.06 \r\n73. Kimy na skasu \"Strange Circus\" (Sion Sono / Japan / 2005) [37] 2.10.06 \r\n74. Casshern (Kazuaki Kiriya / Japan / 2004) [36] 4.27.06 \r\n75. (32.) Apocalypto (Mel Gibson / USA / 2006) [35] 12.30.06 \r\n76. A luci spente (Maurizio Ponzi / Italy / 2005) [35]11.12.06 \r\n77. Slaughtered Vomit Dolls [without subtitles] (Lucifer Valentine / USA, Canada / 2005) [34] 11.27.06 \r\n78. Doskonale popoludnie \"The Perfect Afternoon\" (Przemyslaw Wojcieszek / Poland / 2005) [32] 2.10.06 \r\n79. (33.) 37 Uses for a Dead Sheep (Ben Hopkins / UK, Turkey / 2006) [30] 2.18.06 \r\n80. Kargaran mashghoole karand \"Men at Work\" (Mani Haghighi / Iran / 2006) [28] 2.18.06 \r\n81. Little Boy (Davide Pepe / Italy, UK / 2006) [23] 2.18.06 \r\n82. Odgrobadogroba \"Gravehopping\" (Jan Cvitkovic / Slovenia, Croatia / 2005) [22] 12.27.06 \r\n83. (34.)Wu ji \"The Promise\" (Kaige Chen / China, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea / 2005) [06] 2.12.06 \r\n_____________________________________________ \r\n\r\n84. Bang! (Jari Haanper / Finland / 2005) [--] 2.18.06 \r\n85. (35.) Mission: Impossible III [german dubbed version] (J.J. Abrams / USA / 2006) [--] 6.05.06 \r\n86. Serko [without subtitles] (Jol Farges / France / 2006) [--] 9.24.06','acfbec43772797876e169a0193bb7b2e',0,'','R38aDPcm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7304,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168757580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hengcs','Re: Best of 2006','Hi\r\n\r\n26. (10.) Dealer (Benedek Fliegauf / Hungary / 2004) [71] 12.10.06 \r\n\r\ni think i have watched this in San Francisco Int FF some time ago. A very slow/contemplative piece ... where did you get the DVD?\r\n\r\n47. Omaret Yacobean \"The Yacoubian Building\" (Marwan Hamed / Egypt / 2005) [63] 2.11.06 \r\n\r\nis the DVD available?\r\n\r\n48. (20.) Workingman\'s Death (Michael Glawogger / AUstria, Germany / 2005) [62] 11.17.06 \r\n\r\noh, you have finally watched it …','4e4de10f1d3c49ce2290e521e4aa8495',0,'','9J3chTkY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7305,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168901760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Dealer was a theatrical distribution in Germany (as the numbe in brackets indicates). Don\'t know about a DVD but I hope it will be available, as more people should see this excaptional film. Did you like it?\r\n\r\nOmaret Yacobean, I saw at the Berlin Film Fest. Don\'t know about a DVD and how it was received in Egypt (if it was a hit or not).\r\n\r\nAnd I need to add my comments to Workingman\'s Death. Thanks for the reminder, I forgot the thread.','6726279e7ad09c95daa260850029c6b1',0,'','Cd5eu6aG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7306,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168902300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'justindeimen','Re: Best of 2006','Hey bamboomedia1, that\'s a list that you should\'nt feel insecure about. Mainstream has its place.\r\n\r\nI\'ve watched an indie and a mainstream this week that will probably end up in my list for \'07. Old Joy and Dreamgirls.','56ec28f12c0842e4d06c1fddddf20682',0,'','iGDTM6uk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7307,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1171427460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Matalo Matango','Re: Best of 2006','Just today registered here and finding this thread, I\'m probably a bit late to post my list for best cinematic experiences with new films in 2006, but I decided to do it nevertheless. These are my favourite new movies in 2006 (most of them got an official theatrical release here in germany, some of them I have seen at film festivals), using the international distribution titles and maybe the first three films on my list are some very personal favourites, but that\'s what this kind of lists are for in my opinion (either you can\'t claim the \"best\" films anyway), so here we go:\r\n\r\n1. L\'AUDITION (Luc Picard)\r\n2. MIAMI VICE (Michael Mann)\r\n3. SCIENCE OF SLEEP (Michel Gondry)\r\n4. BATTLE IN HEAVEN (Carlos Reygadas)\r\n5. THE NEW WORLD (Terrence Malick)\r\n6. HIDDEN (Michael Haneke)\r\n7. THE HOST (Joon-ho Bong)\r\n8. WINTER JOURNEY (Hans Steinbichler)\r\n9. THE METHOD (Marcelo Pieyro)\r\n10. SHORTBUS (John Cameron Mitchell)\r\n11. CHILDREN OF MEN (Alfonso Cuaron)\r\n12. SUMMER IN BERLIN (Andreas Dresen)\r\n13. SILENT HILL (Christophe Gans)\r\n14. INVISIBLE WAVES (Pen-Ek Ratanaruang)\r\n15. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (Ang Lee)\r\n16. SYMPATHY FOR LADY VENGEANCE (Chan-wook Park)\r\n17. TIME TO LEAVE (Franois Ozon)\r\n18. PURE HEARTS (Kenneth Kainz)\r\n19. THE DEPARTED (Martin Scorsese)\r\n20. REQUIEM FOR BILLY THE KID (Anne Feinsilber)\r\n\r\nAnd in addition four really great movies that unluckily only made it on DVD (plus with delay) in germany:\r\n\r\nTHE ORDEAL (Fabrice Du Welz)\r\nSURVIVE STYLE 5+ (Gen Sekiguchi)\r\nMYSTERIOUS SKIN (Gregg Araki)\r\nKAMIKAZE GIRLS (Tetsuya Nakashima)','a55cfa79939340b5b710f679660ef271',0,'','DCJchijN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7308,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1171427640,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Don\'t feel bad about it, I haven\'t even finished my list, as I\'m not comfortable with the amount of films I\'ve seen from the previous year, and it might take me until the end of this year to be adequate.','eb117486394c21dd9f348b5971a725f4',0,'','iYDSj9W7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7309,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1171735260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Interesting list MM, and welcome to the board. \r\n\r\nHaven\'t heard about your no.1 on the list. Could you say something about it? Otherwise I\'m glad to see so many personal favorites on it, and great diversity too.','fd074428806fb671676bbbe70474605a',0,'','m6BR90tP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7310,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175845560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Distributed Films (U.S.)\r\n\r\nThis is my Best \"Distributed\" Films (2006) list.\r\n\r\nRules:\r\n\r\n*Official theatrical releases only. Self/Int. sales company distributed films didn\'t qualify as such. A number of factors contributed to the eligibility of films from micro-indie distributors.\r\n\r\n*Direct-to-DVD releases were considered if they met the 5-year World Premiere term.\r\n\r\n________________________\r\n\r\n1 \r\nClean - Olivier Assayas / France-Can-U.K.\r\n\r\n2 \r\nClimates (Iklimler) - Nuri Bilge Ceylan / Turkey-Fra\r\n\r\nA Scanner Darkly - Richard Linklater / U.S.\r\n\r\nThree Times (Zui hao de shi guang) - Hou Hsiao-hsien / Taiwan-Fra\r\n\r\n3 \r\nThe Death of Mr. Lazarescu (Moartea domnului Lazarescu) - Cristi Puiu / Romania\r\n\r\n4 - Ilya Khrzhanovsky / Russia\r\n\r\nTriple Agent - Eric Rohmer / France-Spa-Ita-Gre-Rus\r\n\r\nWhen the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts - Spike Lee / U.S.\r\n\r\n4 \r\nGabrielle - Patrice Chreau / France-Ger-Ita\r\n\r\nOld Joy - Kelly Reichardt / U.S.\r\n\r\nVital - Shinya Tsukamoto / Japan\r\n\r\n5 \r\nBabel - Alejandro Gonzlez Irritu / U.S.-Mex-Fra\r\n\r\nChildren of Men - Alfonso Cuarn / U.K.-U.S.\r\n\r\nLetters from Iwo Jima - Clint Eastwood / U.S.\r\n\r\nMutual Appreciation - Andrew Bujalski / U.S.\r\n\r\nLa Petite Jrusalem - Karin Albou / France\r\n\r\nRomntico - Mark Becker / U.S.\r\n\r\nSomersault - Cate Shortland / Australia\r\n\r\nWorkingman\'s Death - Michael Glawogger / Austria-Ger\r\n\r\n_____________________\r\n\r\n*My Best \"Undistributed\" Films (2006) list.','aff9968241acfae8e90fdffe9db3d009',0,'','kip4DtQH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7311,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175845920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Coming Soon to a thread near you: an extensive list of Honorable Mentions (2006).','f840b84f8a9f6724a03a6d4f85fa81fc',0,'','nHqUkwMb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7312,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175846520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I guess I\'m the last hold out. I\'ll try and check out some of the films from your list I haven\'t yet seen and hopefully I\'ll be able to put a list together. Again your multiple ties are your own method. I\'ve seen at least 10 great films for a list, but I\'m still trying to figure whether they\'re the 10 greatest films of the year.','4ef263e88762d09ce6ec551225ae2f45',0,'','DNYMJ8iy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7313,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175904600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Good. Let me know if you need any info on any of those films (I think you\'ve already seen most of \'em). I\'m also looking forward to your list. I\'d like to come across a film or two I haven\'t yet seen.','4df8277274b81089ff3f0b38dba1f146',0,'','3nWtQ51d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7314,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1176069780,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Too bad I\'ve only seen two films from your list arsaib. But I wasn\'t as impressed by Iklimler and Workingman\'s Death as you. I thought they were good but, besides some profound scenes, lacking, especially in the direction, as I thought Glagower didn\'t make the most of his extraordinary material, and Ceylan was a bit self-indulgent, and it was a let-down for me after the exceptional Uzak (2002). \r\nI\'m working on an extensive review of Iklimler btw.','ebdf6a89ad23d74fb2b98dc0d0f035b4',0,'','qV4D72aU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7315,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1177232580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','I\'ve started a thread on Climates, so you can post your review there. I liked Distant but -- Ceylan\'s eye, notwithstanding -- I don\'t think that it distinguished itself enough from other recent urban alienation films. I\'d say that his latest is his deepest, most mature work to date.\r\n\r\nThere was no lack of documentary releases in 2006, but lamentably, most of them weren\'t very good. Workingman\'s Death stood out for its exquisite and powerful blend of content and form. Perhaps your expectations would\'ve been met by a slightly different approach, but I think we already have those kinds of films available.','4074490fae8fba420ae417a51a7e676d',0,'','tEDS30jA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7316,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1180662180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Well @#%$ it, I haven\'t seen much more from 2006, but here\'s my list as it stands, and probably not going to change too much.\r\n\r\n1. Children of Men\r\n2. Bobby \r\n3. The Curse of the Golden Flower \r\n4. The Departed \r\n5. Inland Empire \r\n6. Borat\r\n7. A Scanner Darkly\r\n8. Letters From Iwo Jima \r\n9. Three Times \r\n10. United 93\r\n\r\nNow part of me wanted to pull an arsaib move, and group these films together, particularly the first two. One reason why I\'ve been so slow putting together this list was that I\'ve been debating whether I liked Children of Men or Bobby more for the last several months. I gave Children of Men the edge in terms of its cinematography, but that\'s not to say I didn\'t think Emilio Estevez pulled off a minor miracle with Bobby. My esteem for Curse of the Golden Flower might seem out of place, and in all honesty I was hoping for a little better foreign representation this year. Tsotsi was in the running almost the entire year, but cut it at the last minute for the more adventerous Three Times, which has stayed with me longer and only seems better in hindsight. Rather than a huge ridiculous list of runners up, I\'ll just leave it at a simple ten.','2fbc6cac97d16610ebfe7f0cac2b84d5',0,'','TiMZYFJK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7317,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181011920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','As you can guess, I\'m particularly happy to see that Three Times and A Scanner Darkly made the cut. Inland Empire didn\'t qualify for mine because it was self-distributed. It will most definitely feature on my \'07 list since the DVD is coming out this year. I\'m in the minority when it comes to The Departed; I was very disappointed.\r\n\r\nYou\'re right, this list should only recognize excellence, and I\'ll make certain that\'s the case with my \"honorable mentions.\" \r\n\r\nNuri Bilge Ceylan\'s Climates is a film you haven\'t yet seen. It comes out on DVD on June 26th.','8b0347027063ca115875be20d68ece07',0,'','v5pEQZyh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7318,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181028300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I\'ll definitely be looking out for that. I\'m not done with my Oscar research for the year either, but I figure six months into 2007 its time to finish up my 2006 list.','e02ed22390e6d4649e01f40d48e33e02',0,'','lmSPJ0iM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7319,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181030460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','I hear ya. My anal retentiveness for being thorough however has kept me from finishing mine.\r\n\r\nAnyway, I think 2007 will end up being a great year and we\'ll have trouble keeping good films off of our lists like we did in \'05 and \'02. To be honest, I can make a pretty decent list right now (mostly foreign films though).','475207a87a4f2493a23f2b1e951dd51b',0,'','1hidqCrf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7320,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181038980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I\'ve seen next to nothing this year, but between 300, Spider Man 3, and Grindhouse my number one is pretty evident.','becdc49626a1f14ddf59fbd96b7edc57',0,'','lZqAFjyw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7321,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182669180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','Distributed Films (U.S.)\r\n\r\nHONORABLE MENTIONS \r\n\r\n*Rules: See my primary Best of 2006 list.\r\n_______________________\r\n\r\n1 \r\nMiami Vice - Michael Mann / U.S.-Ger\r\n\r\n2 \r\nFur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus - Steven Shainberg / U.S.\r\nPeep \"TV\" Show - Tsuchiya Yutaka / Japan\r\n\r\n3 \r\nDuck Season (Temporada de patos) - Fernando Eimbcke / Mexico\r\nFactotum - Bent Hamer / U.S.-Nor-Ger-Fra-Swe\r\n\r\n4 \r\nLe Chignon d\'Olga - Jrme Bonnell / France-Bel\r\nThe Forest for the Trees (Der Wald vor lauter Bumen) - Maren Ade / Germany\r\nRequiem - Hans-Christian Schmid / Germany\r\n\r\n5 \r\nFlags of Our Fathers - Clint Eastwood / U.S.\r\nThe Good Shepherd - Robert De Niro / U.S.\r\n\r\n6 \r\nFast Food Nation - Richard Linklater / U.S.-U.K.\r\nManderlay - Lars von Trier / Denmark-Swe-Fra-Ger-U.K.-Ned\r\nTristram Shandy: A @#%$ and Bull Story - Michael Winterbottom / U.K.\r\n\r\n7 \r\nCrossing the Bridge: The Sound of Istanbul - Fatih Akin / Germany-Tur\r\nExiles (Exils) - Tony Gatlif / France-Jap\r\n\r\n8 \r\nBuffalo Boy (Mua len trau) - Minh Nguyen-Vo / Vietnam-Bel-Fra\r\nCold Showers (Douches froides) - Antony Cordier / France\r\nHollywoodland - Allen Coulter / U.S.\r\nThat Day (Ce jour-l) - Raoul Ruiz / France-Swi\r\n\r\n9 \r\nThe Devil\'s Miner - Kief Davidson & Richard Ladkani / U.S.-Ger\r\nSketches of Frank Gehry - Sydney Pollack / U.S.-Ger\r\n\r\n10 \r\nLa Moustache - Emmanuel Carrre / France\r\nThe Science of Sleep (La Science des rves) - Michel Gondry / France-Ita\r\nThe Secret Life of Words - Isabel Coixet / Spain\r\nTwo Drifters (Odete) - Joo Pedro Rodrigues / Portugal\r\nWho\'s Camus Anyway? (Kamyu nante shiranai) - Yanagimachi Mitsuo / Japan\r\n\r\n11 \r\nBlack Gold - Nick & Marc Francis / U.K.-U.S.\r\nDj Vu - Tony Scott / U.S.\r\nA Prairie Home Companion - Robert Altman / U.S.\r\nThe Puffy Chair - Jay Duplass / U.S.\r\nThe Quiet - Jamie Babbit / U.S.','e74eb646d1ef45208070b9a5692ed9ee',0,'','DP7aB4Rx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7322,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182815100,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I know you liked Miami Vice, but I honestly had no idea it would top your list, I suppose I should go ahead and rent the damn thing already.','10c8589c808f54c0424eb37c2785c54a',0,'','kvbYGy72',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7323,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182845400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','After I watched it again, there wasn\'t any doubt in my mind that it would. I\'m a little surprised you haven\'t seen it yet. A second viewing, especially at home, allows for a slightly different reading since one isn\'t immersed in Mann\'s formalism as much, which could be overwhelming at first. Miami Vice\'s sociocultural and political aspects also make a greater impact, and Mann\'s knowledge cements it (the commentary track is essential). His use of music, and not just here, is another element which isn\'t talked about as much. Farrell\'s Sonny Crockett would do well with the likes of Ford, Huston and Fuller. I think you\'ll like the film.','f671eccb519d72063195421728f34966',0,'','XRhJ4jxS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7324,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182998880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Well I\'m heading to Facets in a few minutes so I think I\'ll pick it up. I\'ve generally liked Mann\'s films, although I haven\'t really been \"blown away\" by any of them.','e09cb8edd3ac09638ff12579941d51fe',0,'','zEvD6pbL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7325,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1184899020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','I wasn\'t as impressed by Mann\'s latest as I thought I would be, but then I was a bit distravted while watching it (ahem ), and like arsaib points out, a bit overwhelmed by its formalism. Subsequently it has grown in my memory and I\'d love to see it again. \r\n\r\nInteresting selection of runner-ups. As usual, I haven\'t seen nearly as many films in 2006 so I have a lot to look forward to \r\n\r\nHopefully I\'ll come up with a better listing method for 2007. If I look at my own lists, they look quite crowded and messy; I always want to pack in as much as possible','778e3d780d660910929e5a7c53556b0b',0,'','5UT2jQbt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7326,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185008940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: Best of 2006','I have kept an eye on your list(s) so don\'t worry. It took me a while to finalize mine but somehow got to it. Will try to be more proficient next time around.','5e0dd55dacb8a4288a2e3171c575608d',0,'','ZFlCguVv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7327,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185063060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I gave up on this resolution, but my (eventual) goal is to make a top ten list from every year once I\'ve seen 50 films from that year. At the present, I only have about 5 or 6 years where that\'s possible, and in a couple of years I\'m barely at the half way point. However once I hit this goal, I\'ll probably decide 50 isn\'t enough and move it up to 100.','276e058807308d496ade1a84182dd89f',0,'','d823l0SY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7328,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185068400,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Well, I\'m trying to come up eith ten personal favprites from every year, and it\'s no less difficult \r\nWe movie buffs really are crazy','435e7ba4ef805d6bb9227d712c08490d',0,'','YqABJoGt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7329,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185262680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I\'ve sort of decided to abandon sound for a little while, and I think I\'ll exhaust as many silent films as I can find for awhile. I\'m a little weak with films from 1917.','eb9b6de2b48fac685becb1b32eb82dc5',0,'','AMLFlCG8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7330,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185479220,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Quote:I\'m a little weak with films from 1917 \r\n\r\nMe too \r\n\r\nI\'m always glad to hear if someone tries to watch more silent films. I need to see more myself. \r\nI have some nice ones waiting on my shelf: \r\nsome early Chaplin shorts, Feyder\'s Carmen, Lubitsch\'s The Marriage Circle, Murnau\'s Sunrise, and dozens of others.','89979319f8aa32cdecab0d334bb9736d',0,'','48LEW75K',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7331,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185491700,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','I\'m fairly weak on Chaplin shorts, which I know is bad. I\'ve seen a few, but nothing compared to Keaton. Got those 140 Edison films to work on today.','6b2ae23c594024194e16f7624bdd362d',0,'','1X5hxMrV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7332,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185499500,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','\r\nYou lucky bastard! \r\n\r\nHope we\'ll read about them soon.\r\nIs there a DVD edition out which I\'m unaware of, or do you simply have good connections?','b2f02fe7bd8ddea0b2e04f1b5f6006a7',0,'','46BYEm3R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7333,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185509580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best of 2006','Kino put out a 4-disc set of Edison films in 2005.','727ce21eea28b0d22c74c134c60cacab',0,'','7ymvQAhV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7334,1528,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1185511680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best of 2006','Good for you and good for me. I\'ll see if I can get hold of it through my various sources ...','b8e1e4151dba3ff76c0ffe603c855d76',0,'','QXaFWe5s',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7335,1529,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1184886540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re-thinking best of lists','As I was watching Roman Polanski\'s Frantic (1987) the other day, something happened which has always been the aim of all my film watching. I connected with the vision on screen, I had the feeling that I understood what the filmmaker was trying to communicate. This happens regularly of course, but it\'s not always the case that I can associate myself completely with an artists vision, sometimes even rejecting it. \r\n\r\nMy personal rating system has evolved over the years, and while I am an unapologetic adherer of personal and subjective views, interpretations and evaluations, I also firmly believe that there have to be a personal set of \"objective\" rules by which one judges all films, be it a feeling from the guts, an analytical, aesthetical or political standpoint, or what ever else - personally I always try to consider all my feelings and responses to a film, the encompassing and unique (!) experience of it, which means to accept the fact that our opinions on film change as much as we do. What I mean by objective in this context, is some kind of unifying whole that in your opinion relates your inner world to the outer you perceive with your senses (e.g. film). I don\'t know if I can communicate here what I\'m trying to say properly (what in a foreign language), but maybe we can call it some kind of reflexive identity (with all the hazy interpretations and definitions this term conjures). \r\nUntil now, I had always thought that the films I rate the highest, meaning the ones I consider the best, are the best in all possible ways. A personal favorite was indistunguishable from a cinematic masterpiece. I haven\'t abandoned this approach entirely, as I still think that you cannot think a film great without admiring it, but I have given in somewhat to affective responses to film. What i want to say is that i discovered that I actually admire many films as a whole which I don\'t consider entirely successful and which are in my opinion sometimes far from a masterpiece (Frantic is such an example), but which speak to me in a way that makes them favorites nevertheless. \r\n\r\nI have thus decided to re-do my best lists on our board to include movies which I don\'t necessarily consider to be some of the greatest in film history as a whole, but which speak to my soul in a way that makes them highly anjoyable and valuable to myself. \r\nIf I try to explain this process in regards to my experience with Polanski\'s Frantic, my rewatch of the film made me aware that I love the film very much even though I don\'t consider it to be one of Polanski\'s best. Meaning that my \"objective\" evaluation of the film marks it as nothing special, while I have an outstanding personal affection for it. Thus I have to admit that my favorite films no longer correspond with the best. \r\n\r\nMaybe I have struck a note with some of you and we can discuss this matter at greater lengths \r\nIf you\'re curious to know some of my other favorite films you can look up the revised best of lists','08bee149812cae42783b8e6f6b40145e',0,'','Njp6DS2B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7336,1529,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1184888760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Re-thinking best of lists','I haven\'t really distinguished these two categories. Everyone is partial to their personal favorites, and films good and bad speak to us on different levels. As I\'m sure is the case with you, many films transport us to a different place, not just the film itself, but within ourselves. Big Trouble in Little China conjures up all kinds of memories. Planet of the Apes reminds me of my summer of \'96 when I had no cable but had all the Apes movies and proceeded to watch the cycle on an average of every other day. Great music does much the same for me as well, and some albums and bands that might not seem great to some people hold a special place for me based on my associations with it. Yesterday I heard Van Halen\'s \"Can\'t Stop Loving You\" on the radio and was a little stunned to think the song is 12 years old. I remembered when the song came out, when the video premiered, where I was at, and what particular girl seemed like my eternal love at the time. Some movies can do this as well, and I\'ve already found myself growing nostalgic for films that I\'ve even recently seen.\r\n\r\nLately I have gotten a chance to re-visit some of those classic films from my childhood, including Big Trouble and Major League. I found that these films may reveal different nuances to me, I still find them immensely enjoyable even if neither film is regarded as anything close to a classic (outside of major league baseball players). I\'m not sure how your perspective of film has changed, but last quarter in class a professor made a point that I agreed with. He said that he and I have a different eye when watching film. We watch films not just to be taken in by the spectacle, but we\'re consciously aware of what the director is communicating to us, and more specifically we watch every film wondering how they shot certain scenes. Perhaps a curse of knowing too much about film. A film rarely seems just a \"film\" to me anymore, and everything is a personal vision expressed, a moral or political agenda trying to be conveyed, and a constant advancement.\r\n\r\nAs far as my film lists, and something I\'ve tried avoiding lately, is to resist my film snobbery. Shortly after getting into \"real\" movies I found myself condemning all my old favorites, but today I can watch these films and realize that Dawn of the Dead, I\'m Gonna Git You Sucka, and even Predator are really damn good movies. I can\'t wait until our generation are the head writers for film magazines and newspapers. The corpus collossum of film cannons needs to change, and it will eventually.','c4c7894d2be71ffdb0f41bb5f27e2c8b',0,'','CQRor6WB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7337,1529,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1184898300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Re-thinking best of lists','Yes, I also get that feeling of Nostalgia very often. With music, it happens instanteniously, but with films there\'s also plenty of it if i dig deeper. When I was re-making my best lists the last couple of hours I was not only getting a tremendous urge to watch hundreds of classics (or discover new ones) but also the feeling that I had to watch some recent films again. When I put in Orson Welles\' Macbeth into my Laptop yesterday, I wanted to let it play as a backdrop to the great sunny weather we have right now in Germany; I didn\'t watch it but the use of it as a kind of video installation was very tempting. I also like \"sampling\" films from time to time, putting in dozens of DVDs and watching bits and pieces out of them. That\'s quite similar to music.\r\n\r\nI also had a phase of film snobbery, when I discovered that I didn\'t like my childhood favorites anymore (e.g. Conan, Batman, Predator), and I didn\'t like Hollywood, but the last two or three years I began to rediscover the greatness of some of those films again. I think the most interesting thing, and what makes me want to see a film again, is not re-living the moment in time when I first (or last) saw them, but finding new and different meaning under different circumstances, the wish for a film to constantly change and never stop doing so (similar like you wish for people you love). To kind of add to your experience and understanding of the film from a different position/place in time.\r\n\r\nThe analysing is of course from time to time very frustrating to some fellow viewers , but when i see a film, I always notice the editing, acting, cinematography, directing, set-design, etc. etc. This has increased over the years, and while it made me more critical towards certain films it has also made me appreciate others. I think what you describe is a normal process, like a musician who is more and more into music, and over the years sharpens his hearing and learns to appreciate different things in music. As a cineaste you kind of \"advance\" over the years through studying the art of cinema in a way that widens your appreciation for all kinds of things. Anyone who isn\'t moving into a wider field of diversity imo isn\'t really \"watching\" films. I believe if you do everything in life with a sense of awarness it leads to spiritual growth. That\'s what i expect from movies (or anything else).\r\n\r\nI love it when I see that I can nowadays appreciate such different films as Yu Wang\'s \"One-Armed Boxer\" (1971), Nuri Bilge Ceylan\'s \"Climates\" (2006) or Jonas Mekas\' \"Zefiro Torna...\" (1992), and even consider them quality-wise to be at approximately the same level (I know some people would disagree, but those are the people I want to talk with, and not somebody who doesn\'t (want to) know neither of those ).\r\n\r\nI have the feeling that this has become quite rare among movie enthusiasts (or what is considered as such), so I\'m glad that I\'m part of such an open-minded community here. Usually you either have the \"arthouse\" crowd who watch Godard all the time, or the trash fanatics who only watch the obscure genre flics (I won\'t speak of the people who are interested in films in the \"normal\" way - there are thousands of those). Both are elitists, and somehow I think neither really appreciate certain films but rather see what they want to see.\r\n\r\nBut I\'m not as optimistic as you when I think of our generation \"taking over\". I think people like us are rather the exception...','337f305e7829c0afd02638d4757c7bd1',0,'','8UsjVDzP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7338,1529,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1184959800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Re-thinking best of lists','Well if our generation ever does take over, expect Mulholland Drive to top the Sight and Sound Poll some day. I actually owe my openness in film to the somewhat narrow AFI list. As I was initially going through it, there were a few films I had no intention of watching. Singin\' in the Rain is in actuality the film that broke the wall along with Yankee Doodle Dandy. I had no interest in musicals at all, and I had a passionate hatred of Disney (for political/ideological reasons mostly). However after watching Yankee Doodle, and later that day Singin\' in the Rain I realized that musicals despite my prejudice actually could be great films, and I pretty much decided I would go all out and see all 100. The point is I learned not to hate on a film I hadn\'t seen because it was a musical, or western, or featured someone I hated. \r\n\r\nYou mentioned Jonas Mekas who\'s a filmmaker I\'d like to see. I\'ve only seen some of his footage of Andy Warhol, but am curious to see more, I\'m certainly a fan of his somewhat eccentric criticism. Unfortunately though I probably would consider Mekas one of the supreme film snobs and his hatred of nearly anything conventional is well evident. \r\n\r\nI know what you mean about certain films lying around. My giant box of DVD\'s that I picked up last year is still almost completely full, and lord only knows how many films recorded from TV I still have to watch.','aba42597d6f5aac513efa6db810b411a',0,'','YoimCPs8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7339,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1146972060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','viewing log(s) 2006','Here is this years edition of what films I keep seeing and my initial response to them. Would be nice if more people would post theirs - if available of course.\r\nAnd again, if you want any info on a title, just ask. \r\n\r\nI always copy these listings from another site (if you are wondering about the numbering and some other stuff), and I don\'t take the time to adjust them.\r\n\r\nSome explanations:\r\n\r\nListing is by:\r\npersonal rating (at the time I saw the film), original title, international title (if known), remark (if a version is cut, dubbed,etc.), year of production, main country it was produced in, director.\r\nShorts are listed with an \"s\" before everything.\r\n\r\nnew rating system:\r\nThe new rating system goes from 0 to 100, with 50 being the middle which shows that a film is on the verge between worthwhile and not.\r\nIn short the rating system can be understood as follows:\r\n90 - 100: masterpiece\r\n80 - 89: great\r\n70 - 79: worth several viewings\r\n60 - 69: worth seeing more than once\r\n50 - 59: worth watching \r\n40 - 49: can watch, but has many flaws\r\n30 - 39: some redeeming value, but basically a failure\r\n20 - 29: may still be watchable, but on your own risk\r\n10 - 19: bad, but maybe some \"trash\"-value\r\n0 - 9: avoid by all means\r\n\r\nThe rating reflects how good or bad I think a film to be (at the time I saw it, that is!). But it may not always show which one I liked or enjoyed more.\r\n\r\nand a short legend:\r\n\r\nseen in a filmtheater\r\n/repeated viewing/\r\noutstanding film\r\n\r\nEnjoy!','5715789151b13d3a7c82334014b19e2d',0,'','jcHyTA1a',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7340,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1146972540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','001. (Jan 02) /Inosensu: Kkaku kidtai/ \"Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence\" (2004 / Japan / Mamoru Oshii) **3/4 / **** \r\n002. (Jan 03) Nema-ye Nazdik \"Close Up\" (1990 / Iran / Abbas Kiarostami) ***3/4 / **** \r\n003. (Jan 08) /Antitrust/ (2001 / USA / Peter Howitt) **1/2 / **** \r\n004. (Jan 09) 491 (1963 / Sweden / Vilgot Sjman) **1/2 / **** \r\n005. (Jan 09) /Radio.doc/ (1995 / Slovenia / Miran Zupanic) **1/2 / **** \r\n006. (Jan 09) Rachida (2002 / Algeria, France / Yamina Bachir) **1/2 / **** \r\n007. (Jan 10) The Scarlet Empress (1934 / USA / Josef von Sternberg) **1/2 / **** \r\ns001. (Jan 11) Max reprend sa liberte \"Troubles of a Grasswidower\" (1912 / France / Max Linder) **1/4 / **** \r\ns002. (Jan 11) Le hasard et l\'amour \"Love\'s Surprises\" (1913 / France / Max Linder) **1/2 / **** \r\ns003. (Jan 11) Max fait de la photo \"Max takes a Picture\" (1913 / France / Lucien Nonguet) **1/4 / **** \r\ns004. (Jan 11) Max decore \"Max sets the Style\" (1914 / France / Max Linder) **1/4 / **** \r\n008. (Jan 11) Tystnaden \"The Silence\" (1963 / Sweden / Ingmar Bergman) **3/4 / **** \r\ns005. (Jan 12) Be my Wife [fragment: 13 min.] (1921 / USA / Max Linder) ***1/4 / **** \r\n009. (Jan 12) Seven Years Bad Luck (1921 / USA / Max Linder) **3/4 / **** \r\ns006. (Jan 12) Vol van gratie \"Full of Grace\" (1986 / Belgium / Nicole Van Goethem) *1/2 / **** \r\ns007. (Jan 12) Second Class Mail (1984 / UK / Alison Snowden) *3/4 / **** \r\n010. (Jan 13) /Fingers/ (1977 / USA / James Toback) ***1/2 / **** \r\ns008. (Jan 13) /La jete/ \"The Pier\" [english dubbed version] (1962 / France / Chris Marker) ***1/2 / **** \r\ns009. (Jan 14) /The Flying Mouse/ (1934 / USA / David Hand) **1/4 / **** \r\ns010. (Jan 14) /Three Little Pigs/ (1933 / USA / Burt Gillett) **1/2 / **** \r\ns011. (Jan 14) /The Big Bad Wolf/ (1934 / USA / Burt Gillett) **1/2 / **** \r\ns012. (Jan 14) /Three Little Wolves/ (1936 / USA / David Hand) **3/4 / **** \r\ns013. (Jan 14) /The Robber Kitten/ (1935 / USA / David Hand) **1/2 / **** \r\ns014. (Jan 14) /The Grasshopper and the Ants/ (1934 / USA / Wilfred Jackson) **1/2 / **** \r\n011. (Jan 14) /JFK/ [director\'s cut] (1991 / USA, France / Oliver Stone) *** / **** \r\n012. (Jan 15) /2001: A Space Odyssey/ [german dubbed version / 148 min.] (1968 / USA, UK / Stanley Kubrick) **** / **** \r\n013. (Jan 15) /L\'amant/ \"The Lover\" (1991 / France, UK, Vietnam / Jean-Jacques Annaud) ***1/2 / **** \r\ns015. (Jan 16) Little Nemo (1911 / USA / Winsor McCay, J. Stuart Blackton) **3/4 / **** \r\ns016. (Jan 16) How a mosquito operates (1912 / USA / Winsor McCay) **1/4 / **** \r\ns017. (Jan 16) Gertie (1914 / USA / Winsor McCay) **1/2 / **** \r\n014. (Jan 16) La lune dans le caniveau \"The Moon in the Gutter\" (1983 / France, Italy / Jean-Jacques Beineix) **3/4 / **** \r\n015. (Jan 16) Sadie Thompson [score by Joseph Turrin] (1928 / USA / Raoul Walsh) ** / **** \r\n016. (Jan 16) Zemlya \"Earth\" [score by V. Ovchinnikov] (1930 / Soviet Union / Alexandr Dovzhenko) **1/4 / **** \r\n017. (Jan 16) /Eyes Wide Shut/ (1999 / USA, UK / Stanley Kubrick) ***1/2 / **** \r\ns018. (Jan 17) Herakles (1962 / West Germany / Werner Herzog) **1/2 / **** \r\ns019. (Jan 17) Die beispiellose Verteidigung der Festung Deutschkreuz \"The Unprecedented Defence of the Fortress Deutschkreuz\" (1966 / West Germany / Werner Herzog) **3/4 / **** \r\ns020. (Jan 18) Manahmen gegen Fanatiker \"Measures Against Fanatics\" (1968 / West Germany / Werner Herzog) *1/4 / **** \r\ns021. (Jan 18) Mit mir will keiner spielen \"No One Will Play with Me\" (1976 / West Germany / Werner Herzog) ** / **** \r\ns022. (Jan 18) The Sinking of the Lusitania (1918 / USA / Winsor McCay) 3/4* / **** \r\n018. (Jan 18) [53] Red Dust (1932 / USA / Victor Fleming) \r\ns023. (Jan 18) [64] Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: Bug Vaudeville (1921 / USA / Winsor McCoy) \r\ns024. (Jan 18) [62] Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: The Pet (1921 / USA / Winsor McCoy) \r\ns025. (Jan 18) [58] Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: The Flying House (1921 / USA / Winsor McCoy) \r\n019. (Jan 18) [48] Fatherland [full-screen version] (1994 / USA / Christopher Menaul) \r\n020. (Jan 19) [73] Angst essen Seele auf \"Fear Eats the Soul\" (1974 / West Germany / Rainer Werner Fassbinder) \r\ns026. (Jan 19) [51] Angst isst Seele auf (2002 / Germany / Shahbaz Noshir) \r\n021. (Jan 19) [62] The Nutty Professor (1963 / USA / Jerry Lewis) \r\n022. (Jan 21) [83] Edipo re \"Oedipus Rex\" (1967 / Italy, Morocco / Pier Paolo Pasolini) \r\n023. (Jan 21) [51] Yojimbo (1961 / Japan / Akira Kurosawa) \r\n024. (Jan 21) [64] Taiyo no hakaba \"The Sun\'s Burial\" (1960 / Japan / Nagisa Oshima) \r\n025. (Jan 22) [74] The Kid Brother (1927 / USA / Ted Wilde, J.A. Howe, Harold Lloyd, Lewis Milestone) \r\n026. (Jan 22) [60] Enjo \"Conflagration\" (1958 / Japan / Kon Ichikawa) \r\n027. (Jan 22) [85] Arousi-ye Khouban \"Marriage of the Blessed\" (1989 / Iran / Mohsen Makhmalbaf) \r\n028. (Jan 22) [72] He liu \"The River\" (1997 / Taiwan / Ming-liang Tsai) \r\ns027. (Jan 23) [82] Issunbushi o kijutsu suru kokoromi (1977 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\ns028. (Jan 23) [85] Kage no eiga - nito onna (1977 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\ns029. (Jan 23) [81] Keshigomu (1977 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\ns030. (Jan 23) [82] Maldoror no uta [without subtitles] (1977 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\ns031. (Jan 23) [86] Meikyu-tan (1975 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\ns032. (Jan 23) [84] Shoken-ki (1977 / Japan / Shuji Terayama) \r\n029. (Jan 23) [63] /The Kid Brother/ [score by Carl Davis] (1927 / USA / Ted Wilde, J.A. Howe, Harold Lloyd, Lewis Milestone) \r\n030. (Jan 24) [83] Ying chun ge zhi Fengbo \"The Fate of Lee Khan\" (1973 / Hong Kong, Taiwan / King Hu) \r\n031. (Jan 24) [67] Human Nature (2001 / USA, France / Michel Gondry) \r\n032. (Jan 24) [63] Night on Earth (1991 / USA, France, UK, Germany, Japan / Jim Jarmusch) \r\n033. (Jan 25) [85] /Now, Voyager/ (1942 / USA / Irving Rapper) \r\n034. (Jan 25) [74] Beshkempir \"The Adopted Son\" (1998 / Kyrgyzstan, France / Aktan Abdykalykov) \r\n035. (Jan 25) [89] /Rashmon/ (1950 / Japan / Akira Kurosawa) \r\n036. (Jan 25) [49] Zvenigora [live-piano by Eunice Martins] (1928 / Soviet Union / Aleksandr Dovzhenko) \r\n037. (Jan 27) [94] Sans soleil \"Sunless\" [english version] (1982 / France / Chris Marker) \r\n038. (Jan 27) [73] /The Third Man/ (1949 / UK / Carol Reed) \r\n039. (Jan 28) [68] The Ring (1927 / UK / Alfred Hitchcock) \r\n040. (Jan 29) [88] /Conan the Barbarian/ (1982 / USA / John Milius) \r\n041. (Jan 29) [64] Ykihi \"Empress Yank Kwei Fei\" (1955 / Japan, Hong Kong / Kenji Mizoguchi) \r\n042. (Jan 30) [91] /El viaje/ \"The Voyage\" (1992 / Argentina, Mexico, Spain, France, UK / Fernando E. Solanas)','3749c4acc913167c9306ac1a0679c273',0,'','Tf3m017C',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7341,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1164304980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','It has taken some time, but I was finally able to complete my viewing log for February (!) 2006. I guess the following months will be a bit easier.\r\n___________________________________________________________________\r\n\r\ns033. (Feb 01) [52] Ditya bolshogo goroda \"Child of the Big City\" [english intertitles] (1914 / Russia / Yevgeni Bauer) \r\ns034. (Feb 01) [45] Tysiacha vtoraia khitrost \"The 1002nd Ruse\" [english intertitles] (1915 / Russia / Yevgeni Bauer) \r\n043. (Feb 01) [71] Giulietta degli spiriti \"Juliet of the spirits\" (1965 / Italy, France, West Germany / Federico Fellini) \r\n044. (Feb 02) [79] /La bte/ \"The Beast\" [director\'s cut / english dubbed version] (1975 / France / Walerian Borowczyk) \r\n045. (Feb 02) [84] Dzieje grzechu \"Story of a Sin\" [extremely bad print] (1975 / Poland / Walerian Borowczyk) \r\n046. (Feb 03) [100] /Being John Malkovich/ (1999 / USA / Spike Jonze) \r\ns035. (Feb 05) [42] Dear Phone (1976 / UK / Peter Greenaway) \r\ns036. (Feb 05) [53] Gryozy \"Daydreams\" [english intertitles] (1915 / Russia / Yevgeni Bauer) \r\n047. (Feb 05) [99] /Heat/ (1995 / USA / Michael Mann) \r\n048. (Feb 05) [87] /The Princess Bride (1987 / USA / Rob Reiner) \r\n049. (Feb 06) [88] /Glengarry Glen Ross/ (1992 / USA / James Foley) \r\n050. (Feb 06) [68] Cat People (1982 / USA / Paul Schrader) \r\n051. (Feb 07) [98] /Cast Away/ (2000 / USA / Robert Zemeckis) \r\n052. (Feb 09) [96] /Mad Dog and Glory/ (1993 / USA / John McNaughton) \r\n053. (Feb 10) [32] Doskonale popoludnie \"The Perfect Afternoon\" (2005 / Poland / Przemyslaw Wojcieszek) \r\n054. (Feb 10) [75] One Way Boogie Woogie (1977 / USA, Canada / James Benning) \r\n055. (Feb 10) [70] One Way Boogie Woogie/27 Years Later (2004 / USA / James Benning) \r\n056. (Feb 10) [37] Kimy na skasu \"Strange Circus\" (2005 / Japan / Sion Sono) \r\n057. (Feb 11) [57] Container [english language version] (2006 / Sweden / Lukas Moodysson) \r\n058. (Feb 11) [61] Memory for Max, Claire, Ida and Company (2005 / Canada / Allan King) \r\n059. (Feb 11) [63] Omaret Yacobean \"The Yacoubian Building\" (2005 / Egypt / Marwan Hamed) \r\n060. (Feb 11) [65] Montag kommen die Fenster \"Windows on Monday\" (2006 / Germany / Ulrich Khler) \r\n061. (Feb 12) [83] The New World [135min. version] (2005 / USA / Terrence Malick) \r\n062. (Feb 12) [75] In Between Days (2006 / USA, Canada / So Yong Kim) \r\n063. (Feb 12) [74] Sobhi Digar \"Another Morning\" (2006 / Iran / Nasser Refaie) \r\n064. (Feb 12) [06] Wu ji \"The Promise\" (2005 / China, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea / Kaige Chen) \r\n065. (Feb 13) [77] Yorokobi mo kanashimi mo ikutoshitsuki \"Years of Joy and Sorrow\" [extremely bad subtitling] (1957 / Japan / Keisuke Kinoshita) \r\n066. (Feb 13) [68] Inatteso \"Unexpected\" (2005 / Italy / Domenico Distilo) \r\n067. (Feb 13) [71] Dave Chapelle\'s Block Party [without subtitles] (2005 / USA / Michel Gondry) \r\n068. (Feb 13) [72] Babooska (2005 / Austria, Italy / Tizza Covi, Rainer Frimmel) \r\n069. (Feb 13) [73] U nergiz biskivin \"Narcissus Blossom\" (2005 / Iraq, France / Hussein Hassan Ali, Masoud Arif Salih) \r\n070. (Feb 14) [66] Conversations on a Sunday Afternoon (2005 / South Africa / Khalo Matabane) \r\n071. (Feb 14) [65] Invisible Waves (2005 / Thailand, Netherlands, South Korea, Hong Kong / Pen-Ek Ratanaruang) \r\n072. (Feb 14) [58] Lucy (2006 / Germany / Henner Winckler) \r\ns037. (Feb 14) [63] Visul lui Liviu \"Liviu\'s Dream\" (2004 / Romania / Corneliu Porumboiu) \r\ns038. (Feb 14) [53] Tertium non datur (2006 / Romania, France / Lucian Pintilie) \r\n073. (Feb 15) [74] Meninas \"Teen Mothers\" (2005 / Brazil / Sandra Werneck, Gisela Camara) \r\n074. (Feb 15) [50] Sehnsucht \"Longing\" (2005 / Germany / Valeska Griesebach) \r\n075. (Feb 15) [45] Kinetta (2005 / Greece / Yorgos Lanthimos) \r\n076. (Feb 15) [42] Ukigumo \"Floating Clouds\" (1955 / Japan / Mikio Naruse) \r\n077. (Feb 16) [75] Kan shang qu hen mei \"Little Red Flowers\" (2006 / China, Italy / Yuan Zhang) \r\n078. (Feb 16) [55] Dear Pyongyang (2005 / Japan / Yong-hi Yang) \r\n079. (Feb 16) [75] La-bas \"Down There\" (2006 / Belgium, France / Chantal Akerman) \r\n080. (Feb 16) [68] Aus der Ferne \"From far away\" (2006 / Germany / Thomas Arslan) \r\n081. (Feb 16) [56] Barakat! (2006 / Algeria, France / Djamila Sahraoui) \r\n082. (Feb 16) [70] Shisso \"Dead Run\" (2005 / Japan / Sabu) \r\n083. (Feb 17) [52] The Notorious Bettie Page (2005 / USA / Mary Harron) \r\n084. (Feb 17) [47] Komm nher \"Come Closer\" (2006 / Germany / Vanessa Jopp) \r\n085. (Feb 17) [69] Be ahestegi... \"Gradually...\" (2005 / Iran / Maziar Miri) \r\n086. (Feb 17) [81] Kaalpurush \"Memories in the Mist\" (2005 / India / Buddhadev Dasgupta) \r\n087. (Feb 17) [64] 46-okunen no koi \"Big Bang Love, Juvenile A\" (2006 / Japan / Takashi Miike) \r\n088. (Feb 18) [73] Offside (2006 / Iran / Jafar Panahi) \r\n089. (Feb 18) [56] Jie guo \"Before Born\" (2005 / China / Ming Zhang) \r\n090. (Feb 18) [30] 37 Uses for a Dead Sheep (2006 / UK, Turkey / Ben Hopkins) \r\n091. (Feb 18) [28] Kargaran mashghoole karand \"Men at Work\" (2006 / Iran / Mani Haghighi) \r\n092. (Feb 18) [97] Au-del de la haine \"Beyond Hatred\" (2005 / France / Olivier Meyrou) \r\ns039. (Feb 18) [--] Bang! (2005 / Finland / Jari Haanper) \r\ns040. (Feb 18) [78] \"...Es wird jemand kommen der ja zu mir sagt\" \"Ruth\" (2006 / Germany / Michael Blume) \r\ns041. (Feb 18) [73] Jane\'s Birthday Trip (2005 / USA / Etienne Kallos) \r\ns042. (Feb 18) [23] Little Boy (2006 / Italy, UK / Davide Pepe) \r\ns043. (Feb 18) [58] Love This Time (2006 / Australia / Rhys Graham) \r\ns044. (Feb 18) [67] Sexo e claustro \"Sex and Cloister\" (2005 / Brazil / Claudia Priscilla) \r\ns045. (Feb 18) [64] Gnome (2005 / USA / Jenny Bicks) \r\n093. (Feb 19) [76] Mizu no hana \"Water Flower\" (2005 / Japan / Yusuke Kinoshita) \r\n094. (Feb 19) [72] Doodh aur apheem \"Milk and Opium\" (2006 / India / Joel Palombo) \r\n095. (Feb 19) [40] Derecho de familia \"Family Law\" (2006 / Argentina, Italy, Spain, France / Daniel Burman) \r\n096. (Feb 19) [71] Les oiseaux du ciel \"Birds of Heaven\" (2005 / France, Ivory Coast, UK / Eliane de Latour) \r\n097. (Feb 21) [53] Ascenseur pour l\'chafaud \"Lift to the Scaffold\" (1957 / France / Louis Malle) \r\n098. (Feb 21) [43] Ningyo Sashichi torimonocho yoen roku shibijin \"Dandy Sashichi Detective Story - Six Famous Beauties\" (1956 / Japan / Nobuo Nakagawa) \r\n099. (Feb 22) [97] /Ran/ (1985 / Japan, France / Akira Kurosawa) \r\n100. (Feb 23) [78] Dokufu Takahashi Oden \"A wicked Woman\" (1958 / Japan / Nobuo Nakagawa) \r\n101. (Feb 25) [74] Bridget (2002 / France, Japan / Amos Kollek) \r\n102. (Feb 25) [62] Borei kaibyo yashiki \"The Mansion of the Ghost Cat\" (1958 / Japan / Nobuo Nakagawa) \r\n103. (Feb 26) [55] Zhu Fu \"New Year Sacrifice\" (1956 / China / Hu Sang) \r\n104. (Feb 27) [98] Majo no takkybin \"Kiki\'s Delivery Service\" (1989 / Japan / Hayao Miyazaki) \r\n105. (Feb 27) [70] Sommer vorm Balkon \"Summer in Berlin\" (2005 / Germany / Andreas Dresen) \r\n106. (Feb 27) [67] Mdchen am Sonntag (2006 / Germany / Rolf Peter Kahl) \r\n107. (Feb 28) [80] Soshun \"Early Spring\" [bad subtitling] (1956 / Japan / Yasujiro Ozu) \r\n108. (Feb 28) [59] Ohay \"Good Morning\" (1959 / Japan / Yasujiro Ozu) \r\n109. (Feb 28) [36] Zazie dans le mtro \"Zazie in the Subway\" (1960 / France, Italy / Louis Malle) \r\n110. (Feb 28) [66] Tokaido Yotsuya kaidan \"Ghost Story of Yotsuya\" (1959 / Japan / Nobuo Nakagawa)','58a035f967d39e3d2a6f688fd06a2ecc',0,'','d7ZxwAcs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7342,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181866800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','I finally also completed my viewing log for March 2006 (!).\r\nIt\'s strange recalling all of the things I did back then, when i was still living in Berlin. To remember the people I watched certain films with and the feelings I had during that period and the things I was going through. \r\nBut damn, I was watching so much better films than I am now :lol\r\n\r\n\r\n# 111. (Mar 02) [60] Kaachan (1960 / Japan / Nobuo Nakagawa)\r\n# 112. (Mar 02) [77] Lacombe Lucien (1974 / France, West Germany, Italy / Louis Malle)\r\n# 113. (Mar 03) [73] /Shichinin no samurai/ \"Seven Samurai\" (1954 / Japan / Akira Kurosawa)\r\n# 114. (Mar 03) [69] Hatsukoi \"First Love\" (2000 / Japan / Tetsuo Shinohara)\r\n# s046. (Mar 03) [40] The Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk (1988 / USA / ??)\r\n# s047. (Mar 03) [64] Charlie Brown\'s All Stars (1966 / USA / Bill Melendez)\r\n# s048. (Mar 04) [43] Uchiage hanabi, shita kara Miruka? Yoko kara Miruka? \"Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom?\" (1993 / Japan / Shunji Iwai)\r\n# 115. (Mar 04) [82] /Gegen die Wand/ \"Head-On\" (2004 / Germany, Turkey / Fatih Akin)\r\n# s049. (Mar 04) [60] It\'s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (1966 / USA / Bill Melendez)\r\n# 116. (Mar 05) [66] Gogo no Yuigon-jo \"A Last Note\" (1995 / Japan / Kaneto Shind)\r\n# 117. (Mar 09) [83] Sanma no aji \"An Autumn Afternoon\" [bad subtitling] (1962 / Japan / Yasujiro Ozu)\r\n# 118. (Mar 10) [33] Terminator 2: Judgment Day [director\'s cut] (1991 / USA, France / James Cameron)\r\n# 119. (Mar 10) [74] Armageddon (1998 / USA / Michael Bay)\r\n# 120. (Mar 10) [88] /Elvira Madigan/ (1967 / Sweden / Bo Widerberg)\r\n# 121. (Mar 11) [75] La dentellire \"The Lacemaker\" (1977 / France, Switzerland, West Germany / Claude Goretta)\r\n# 122. (Mar 11) [51] Deux \"Two\" (2002 / France, Germany, Portugal / Werner Schroeter)\r\n# 123. (Mar 12) [86] /Batman/ (1989 / USA, UK / Tim Burton)\r\n# 124. (Mar 12) [85] Cach \"Hidden\" (2005 / France, Austria, Germany, Italy / Michael Haneke)\r\n# 125. (Mar 13) [65] /Saint-Cyr/ \"The King\'s Daughters\" (2000 / France, Germany, Belgium / Patricia Mazuy)\r\n# 126. (Mar 14) [--] Lammbock (2001 / Germany / Christian Zbert)\r\n# 127. (Mar 14) [--] American Wedding (2003 / USA, Germany / Jesse Dylan)\r\n# 128. (Mar 16) [99] /Sayat Nova/ \"Color of Pomgranates\" [bad image] (1968 / Soviet Union / Sergei Parajanov)\r\n# 129. (Mar 17) [84] Paradjanov: A Requiem (1994 / USA, Germany / Ron Holloway)\r\n# s050. (Mar 17) [99] Hakob Hovnatanyan (1965 / Soviet Union / Sergei Parajanov)\r\n# 130. (Mar 17) [79] Ukigusa Monogatari \"A Story of Floating Weeds\" (1934 / Japan / Yasujiro Ozu)\r\n# 131. (Mar 18) [62] Adorenarin doraibu \"Adrenaline Drive\" (1999 / Japan / Shinobu Yaguchi)\r\n# s051. (Mar 18) [100] /un chien andalou/ \"An Andalusian Dog\" (1929 / France / Luis Buuel, Salvador Dal)\r\n# 132. (Mar 18) [91] L\'ge d\'or \"The Golden Age\" (1930 / France / Luis Buuel)\r\n# s052. (Mar 19) [62] You\'re in Love, Charlie Brown (1967 / USA / Bill Melendez)\r\n# 133. (Mar 19) [--] The Brown Bunny (2003 / USA, Japan, France / Vincent Gallo)\r\n# 134. (Mar 20) [--] /Snatch./ (2000 / UK, USA / Guy Ritchie)\r\n# 135. (Mar 20) [71] Nothing Sacred (1937 / USA / William A. Wellman)\r\n# 136. (Mar 20) [68] Nikutai no mon \"Gate of Flesh\" (1964 / Japan / Seijun Suzuki)\r\n# 137. (Mar 21) [69] King Creole (1958 / USA / Michael Curtiz)\r\n# 138. (Mar 21) [59] Emil und die Detektive \"Emil and the Detectives\" (1931 / Germany / Gerhard Lamprecht)\r\n# s053. (Mar 21) [62] He\'s your Dog, Charlie Brown (1968 / USA / Bill Melendez)\r\n# 139. (Mar 21) [88] /L\'amour, l\'argent, l\'amour/ \"Love, Money, Love\" (2000 / Germany, Switzerland, France / Philip Grning)\r\n# 140. (Mar 22) [71] Ukigusa \"Floating Weeds\" (1959 / Japan / Yasujiro Ozu)\r\n# 141. (Mar 22) [90] Charachar \"Shelter of the Wings\" (1993 / India / Buddhadev Dasgupta)\r\n# s054. (Mar 22) [79] Amour neutre \"Love Neutral\" (2005 / France / Pierre Coulibeuf)\r\n# 142. (Mar 22) [77] Balkan baroque (1999 / France / Pierre Coulibeuf)\r\n# 143. (Mar 22) [73] Boudu sauv des eaux \"Boudu Saved from Drowning\" (1932 / France / Jean Renoir)\r\n# s055. (Mar 23) [48] Campus Vamp (1928 / USA / Harry Edwards)\r\n# s056. (Mar 23) [51] Matchmaking Mamma (1929 / USA / Harry Edwards)\r\n# 144. (Mar 23) [73] Kanzo sensei \"Dr. Akagi\" (1998 / Japan, France / Shohei Imamura)\r\n# 145. (Mar 24) [100] /Andrey Rublyov/ \"Andrei Rublev\" [edited version / 186 min.] (1966 / Soviet Union / Andrei Tarkovsky)\r\n# s057. (Mar 24) [98] /Moznosti dialogu/ \"Dimensions of Dialogue\" (1982 / Czechoslovakia / Jan Svankmajer)\r\n# s058. (Mar 24) [64] Felix in Fairyland (1923 / USA / Otto Mesmer)\r\n# s059. (Mar 24) [--] /The Sinking of the Lusitania/ (1918 / USA / WInsor McCay)\r\n# s060. (Mar 24) [63] Rhythmus 21 \"Rhythm 21\" (1921 / Germany / Hans Richter)\r\n# s061. (Mar 25) [69] /Byt/ \"The Flat\" (1968 / Czechoslovakia / Jan Svankmajer)\r\n# 146. (Mar 25) [76] Ninjo kami fusen \"Humanity and Paper Balloons\" (1937 / Japan / Sadao Yamanaka)\r\n# 147. (Mar 25) [47] Shinj: Ten no amijima \"Double Suicide\" [edited version / 104 min.] (1969 / Japan / Masahiro Shinoda)\r\n# s062. (Mar 25) [61] Out of the Inkwell (1918 / USA / Dave Fleischer)\r\n# 148. (Mar 25) [73] Ta\'m e guilass \"A Taste of Cherry\" (1997 / Iran, France / Abbas Kiarostami)\r\n# 149. (Mar 25) [52] C\'est de l\'art (1996 / France / Pierre Coulibeuf)\r\n# s063. (Mar 25) [65] Crni film (1971 / Yugoslavia / Zelimir Zilnik)\r\n# s064. (Mar 25) [62] Nezaposleni ljudi (1968 / Yugoslavia / Zelimir Zilnik)\r\n# s065. (Mar 25) [60] Lipanjska gibanja (1969 / Yugoslavia / Zelimir Zilnik)\r\n# s066. (Mar 25) [66] Zdravi ljudi za razonodu (1971 / Yugoslavia / Karpo Acimovic Godina)\r\n# s067. (Mar 25) [63] Gratinirani mozak Pupilije Ferkeverk (1970 / Yugoslavia / Karpo Acimovic Godina)\r\n# 150. (Mar 26) [90] /Mia aioniotita kai mia mera/ \"Eternity and a Day\" (1998 / Greece, Germany, France, Italy / Theodoros Angelopoulos)\r\n# 151. (Mar 26) [73] Detstvo Gorkogo \"The Childhood of Maxim Gorky\" (1938 / Soviet Union / Mark Donskoy)\r\n# 152. (Mar 26) [84] Zwischen zwei Kriegen \"Between Two Wars\" (1977 / West Germany / Harun Farocki)\r\n# s068. (Mar 27) [--] In One Breath [English version] (2003 / Germany, Russia / Knut Elstermann)\r\n# 153. (Mar 27) [74] Ordet \"The Word\" (1955 / Denmark / Carl Theodor Dreyer)\r\n# s069. (Mar 27) [72] Un chant d\'amour \"A Song of Love\" (1950 / France / Jean Genet)\r\n# 154. (Mar 27) [82] /To vlemma tou Odyssea/ \"Ulysse\'s Gaze\" [German dubbed version] (1995 / Greece, Germany, France, UK, Italy / Theodoros Angelopoulos)\r\n# 155. (Mar 30) [51] Scent of a Woman [German dubbed version] (1992 / USA / Martin Brest)','d4a512c83c137a2e57f69a0e052047cf',0,'','oANLHxzT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7343,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181896020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','As always, a fascinating list. I think we\'ve already talked about a few of them. Was there some sort of a Huppert retro in early May?','df3deb789223a2582baf635a86a9ed2b',0,'','N73E0lg9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7344,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181921820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','Yes, you\'re a good observer, but it was in early March (I still have to finsih April and May ). They had a quite huge Huppert retro with a small \"catalogue\" (too bad I left it at my parents, otherwise I could name some more films - they didn\'t show the newly restored print of Heaven\'s Gate though). I think it has something to do with the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Berlin having some very active competent authorities on film who work closely with two important cinemas in town. They successfully organize retrospectives and \"compilations\" for some time now (the Jaqcues Doillon retro, with Doillon being present was also their work, as well as a series of french films from the 30s which I also attended). \r\nI only saw a handful of films from La Huppert, but it was an interesting experience to have her present at one of the screenings (I believe it was La dentelliere) as well as seeing Schroeter\'s most recent film (although i wasn\'t impressed). The funny thing is that a small part of this retro came to Nuremberg only this year (with the same catalogue ) where I saw Godard\'s impressive Sauve qui peut (La vie) (1979), and Pialat\'s extraordinary Loulou (1980). Don\'t know why it took them so long, as a friend told me that they had had the same Doillon retro shortly after Berlin last year, and in 2005 the whole Jean Eustache retrospective I was attending in Berlin, was shown in Nuremberg at the same time (!) - I even have both programs for April 2005 for both cinemas in both cities, and they were playing it all.\r\n\r\nCurrently they are having an almost complete Pasolini retro in Nuremberg (I\'m going there today to see Mamma Roma (1962)), and I\'m trying to get them to show some Slovenian films from the Yugoslav period in cooperation with our own cinema next year.','2c4bbfff64d53c0e01072e9a433a47ca',0,'','Lo62Qb4v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7345,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181941980,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','I\'d be ecstatic if a Eustache retro came here. I\'ve only seen The Mother and the Whore and it is certainly a masterpiece. From your list however, I must say I was disappointed with your rather low rating of Terminator 2. I consider it the perfect action film, and am generally a big James Cameron supporter. I know some scenes in the director\'s cut were perhaps better left on the cutting floor, but still a fantastic picture. \r\n\r\nAlso what\'s with all the Snoopy films, nostalgia or was there some program running them?','909a884ed9cdcffbbfcba5f2a28a2d7c',0,'','iC0MYVtg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7346,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1181958540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'arsaib4','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','Oh, yes, March, of course. Those Huppert films made an impression because they were some of the same ones that played at her \"Risk and Revelation\" retro here in Toronto a couple of years ago. True, one which did very well covering her vast and esoteric body of work. I have that catalogue: Loulou, The Lacemaker, Merci pour le chocolat, Sauve qui peut (la vie), Madame Bovary, Les Destines sentimentales, Entre nous, La Sparation, La Vie promise, The Time of the Wolf, Heaven\'s Gate, Passion, Malina, Saint-Cyr, La Crmonie, Une affaire de femmes, The Trout, Violette Nozire, The Piano Teacher and Coup de torchon.','8fa41071b263fb744dc2476f319f9d7c',0,'','puJ9fFEM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7347,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182005460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','Not a bad selection at all. But I believe they showed even more of her films during the Berlin retro (though not all of the ones you listed). But watching films by Huppert is kind of a walk through 30 years of film history. She did work on many remarkable films, and with exceptionally gifted directors.\r\n\r\nMy appreciation of T2 used to be much higher in the past. I watched the director\'s Cut with a friend of mine, and though we had both been fans of the film, we agreed after the viewing that it was one of the most boring and sloppy directed (action)films we had come across. It was a huge let down after having seen and enjoyed the theatrical cut many times before. Either my movie tastes have \"evolved\" or the Director\'s Cut really is that bad. I think it\'s probably both.\r\n\r\nYes, watching Snoopy was pure Nostalgia, as I was having sessions with my roommate going through two DVDs we had been able to borrow from the library. What delightful films! I need to buy all of the series, as I am a huge fan. \r\nI think my favorite from all the shorts and features is still Snoopy Come Home (1972). \r\nA friend of mine is actually importing the complete cartoon series from the US (I think it ran for almost 50 years). If I had more money *dream* \r\n\r\nEustache is essential viewing for any cineaste. I hope you\'ll be able to see a retro in the future. I\'m still delighted by your enthusiasm for \"The Mother and the Whore\".','c75fd24f20122de3c09b33b3f44f9a93',0,'','UX358c4H',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7348,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182206340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','Snoopy Come Home is the highest rated of the films here, and will eventually get a chance to se (re-see) it. Keeping my fingers crossed on Eustache.\r\n\r\nWhat\'s your take on the original Terminator? Especially now that some deleted footage from that has been made available.','5bb56459945b6111281b6932e7e0bbfd',0,'','kNqVEv46',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7349,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182219000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','I haven\'t seen it in a while (two or three years), but after the last viewing I loved it and thought that it was the best of the series. I liked the claustrophobic mood, the (relative) low-budget feeling it had - kind of hand-made - the 80s setting, and the horror elements. \r\nThe first couple of times when I saw it as a kid and a teenager I didn\'t like the film, as I thought it was too dark and slow, but the many rewatches were rewarding in the end.\r\nBut I\'d have to see it again to say anything definite \r\nI just hope I won\'t be disappointed.\r\n\r\nDidn\'t know a new DVD was out. What\'s the missing/deleted footage?','74e53f1c2bf4286458188ce57648016d',0,'','FX7xMNVm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7350,1530,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1182301140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: viewing log(s) 2006','I haven\'t had a chance to watch it myself honestly although I\'ve had it on DVD for a good 6 years.','98387f70e23fd4a8b0a4d5be8a295b03',0,'','jPloNuCq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7351,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169948520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Chinese favourites','I\'ve just been catching up on a few oldies (some without subs), so here\'s my little list, including Hong Kong, and a couple of Taiwanese co-productions set on the mainland...\r\n\r\nSpring in a Small Town (Fei Mu, 194 \r\nRed Sorghum (Zhang Yimou, 1987)\r\nCrouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)\r\nChungking Express (Wong Kar-wai, 1994)\r\nRaise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou, 1991)\r\nTwo Stage Sisters (Xie Jin, 1965)\r\nIn the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)\r\nThe Goddess (Wu Yonggang, 1934)\r\nTo Live (Zhang Yimou, 1994)\r\nA Touch of Zen (King Hu, 1969)\r\n\r\nThe Lin Family Shop (Zhang Shuihua, 1959)\r\nSuzhou River (Lou Ye, 2000)\r\nRouge (Kwan, 1987)\r\nPlatform (Jia Zhangke, 2000)\r\nHorse Thief (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1986)\r\nHouse of the Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou, 2004)\r\nLittle Toys (Sun Yu, 1933)\r\nLife on a String (Chen Kaige, 1991)\r\n2046 (Wong Kar-wai, 2004)\r\nStreet Angel (Yuan Mushi, 1937)\r\nThe Blue Kite (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1993)\r\n\r\nthis is likely to be the Chinese century, and there should be ever more top films, as well as wider interest in the country\'s earlier cinema history. Hollywood watch out!','58ed67ec732cf88a34c11a83baecd19e',0,'','BK4TWSi6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7352,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170441060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Chinese favourites','Where did you get the opportunity to watch those early films John? Any DVDs out there?\r\n\r\nFrom the top of my head and out of the few Chinese/Hongkong films I\'ve seen (probably not more than 50) these are the great ones:\r\n\r\nSpring in a Small Town (Fei Mu, 1948)\r\nThe Fate of Lee Khan (King Hu, 1973)\r\nEight Diagram Pole Fighter (Chia-Liang Liu, 1983)\r\nThe Blue Kite (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1993)\r\nChungking Express (Wong Kar-wai, 1994)\r\nFallen Angels (Wong Kar-wai, 1995)\r\nSurveillance (Jianxin Huang, Yazhou Yang, 1997)\r\nBeijing Bicycle (Xiaoshuai Wang, 2000)\r\nPlatform (Jia Zhang-ke, 2000)\r\nHero (Zhang Yimou, 2002)\r\nPublic Toilet (Fruit Chan, 2002)\r\nSpringtime in a Small Town (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 2002)\r\nHouse of the Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou, 2004)\r\n\r\nNot quite as good, but very much recommended:\r\n\r\nOne-Armed Swordsman (Chang Cheh, 1967)\r\nA Touch of Zen (King Hu, 1969)\r\nNew One-Armed Swordsman (Chang Cheh, 1971)\r\nThe Horse Thief (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1986)\r\nDays of Being Wild (Wong Kar-Wai, 1991)\r\nThe Bride with White Hair (Ronny Yu, 1993)\r\nThe Blade (Hark Tsui, 1995)\r\nNot One Less (Yimou Zhang, 1999)\r\nHappy Times (Yimou Zhang, 2001)\r\nLittle Red Flowers (Yuan Zhang, 2006)','d1a0cf272f6e8ec2a527ddef52090a1b',0,'','6wGcgdTb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7353,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170443820,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Chinese favourites','I got several oldies (Spring in a Small Town, The Goddess, Lin Family Shop, Little Toys, Street Angel, Crows and Sparrows)- and cheap too- from yesasia.com, but as i said many that may be hard to get elsewhere are without subtitles, so a bit of plot-checking beforehand doesn\'t go amiss. Just ordered Spring River Flows East, Daybreak from there, and had also been intending to see Bride with White Hair, Eight Diagram Polefighter','2b5abe53b4bc8d5b30074a7aa0038b6d',0,'','PpSumGR2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7354,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170450900,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Chinese favourites','I\'ll have to check out some of the subtitled ones. I don\'t like judging films if i can\'t follow what\'s going on. \r\nIs the image quality acceptable on most of them?\r\n\r\nI\'d suggest you first check out \"Eight Diagram Pole Fighter\". If you like that one, I would move on to \"Bride with White Hair\". They are both a bit like the King Hu films, but without the exceptional direction and philosophical grounding, though they both owe much to it.\r\nPole Fighter is more camp, while Bride is a tad more serious.','b0b1ce2844cab9ce9c8db1edc74f759c',0,'','cWk1FpS2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7355,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170466560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Chinese favourites','The Goddess has intertitles, the picture quality of most is acceptable. My understanding of Spring in a Small Town was helped by my having seen the remake, anyway i think without subs helps concentrate a bit more on little visual details- the tiniest expressions, body language and gestures in that film are a pleasure.','97dcde79c6ab61a07e14ba051880cfe1',0,'','B5lETb2h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7356,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170705960,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Chinese favourites','Yes, I also saw the remake before the original and was able to appreciate it quite easily. But I guess I\'d only enjoy watching a film without subs, if I had seen it before. Otherwise I would always be under the impression that I am missing something.','bf5bf3d3b7f751188305a7e101c714c4',0,'','A0VD3lHU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7357,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170776040,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Chinese favourites','There is that frustration but it concentrates the eyes and mind in a way i find absorbing, and seeing those Chinese films has been a bit of fresh air to a jaded viewer. More on order, which i\'m looking forward to more than most on my normal rental list and am often lethargic now to bother watching','8f0b3295e6dc437c81dece9801d430fa',0,'','fA3y0v7G',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7358,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170890160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Chinese favourites','Yes, I can understand that. \r\nI should try and watch some films without subs sometime (e.g. the two Victor Erice films I have at home).','e115cdd313fe9bc6a6947fdc93d3aa9f',0,'','XoSd492F',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7359,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1176801000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Chinese favourites','Hmmm, I like Jiang Hu. I think Andy Lau was in it.','8aa9542eb88c3b5a3d90a1fdb967c29c',0,'','RZGu6EJM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7360,1531,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1176865620,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hengcs','Re: Chinese favourites','Trevor\'s take\r\n\r\nhmmm ... i thought i used to write sth on it too?\r\nbut i guess it is deleted during that famous \"attack\" ...\r\n\r\nmy 1 cent worth \r\n-- the pace is kind of slow ... shld hasten slightly\r\n-- BUT, i thought the ending was GREAT! ... not many pple expect the ending to be as such ... wow ... but some of my friends did not get the ending ... kind of pity …','f075e24b0d2ea2bb37871c15150f15c0',0,'','MpoxyrAh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7361,1532,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1174900860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hengcs','Worst of the Worst - 100 films (from rottentomatoes)','The official site\r\nsee\r\nwww.rottentomatoes.com/fe...2007/wotw/','f647485dce79c2b1ef08ea240da3686c',0,'','PfvN8dzc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7362,1532,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1174905300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Worst of the Worst - 100 films (from rottentomatoes)','I\'m not a fan of that site, and looking at their list of the best best picture winners I was even more put off. I mean to say Marty is a better film than Casablanca and Lawrence of Arabia them\'s fightin\' words.\r\n\r\nAs far as the worst films list I\'ve seen next to none of them, and none of the top ten really seem worthy of carrying a \"worst film ever\" title.','9d0d19de8edd0af5246d39e928a5c286',0,'','e0yGkWHw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7363,1532,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175898900,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Worst of the Worst - 100 films (from rottentomatoes)','Interesting to see such a list for once, though it centers purely on fairly recent Hollywood stuff. I also don\'t like RottenTomatos very much, but I visit their page from time to time to read something by a few american critics.\r\nIt\'s interesting to see so many films assembled I am sooo not interested in. And I guess I\'m not alone with my opinion. \r\n\r\nI have actually seen no. 65 Boat Trip with Oscar winner Cuba Gooding Jr. It was a private screening with a couple of friends and we had already been prepared for the worst by a friend who said that the film was so hilariously bad we just had to see it. Well, it was even worse - but enjoyable. A typical case of a film that\'s so bad you simply can\'t belive your eyes.  Definitely qualifies for my personal worst films ever list.\r\n\r\nI have Gods and Generals on DVD at home and plan on seeing it despite the negative press. \r\n\r\nDon\'t know what\'s so bad about no. 30 Darkness by jaume Balaguero. In Germany the film got very positive critical responses, and though i wasn\'t impressed I found it to be a good film. A friend of mine even considers it one of his favorites.\r\n\r\nRollerball by the usually great John McTiernan which is no. 20 also isn\'t that bad. It\'s just one of those films that don\'t make any sense at all and you wonder why they have been made. I only borrowed it from my local videostore somewhere in 2003 I believe, because a good German critic praised it because of its innovative editing. I must agree that the editing alone is worth the watch, though contrary to him I found it completely confusing and incoherent. I am still sure the film as it was released was a rough cut and Tiernan wasn\'t allowed to complete it. But maybe I should watch it again. The editing is definitely a curiosity as I haven\'t seen anything like it ever since. But I guess everybody ought to decide for themselves. But the editor of Rottentomatos isn\'t far off when he says that the script was possibly written by monkeys. \r\n\r\nI must say I\'ve definitely never seen less films from a top list than from this one. Probably also the first time that\'s a good thing.','d60d2ca47dbfee132fc07994c40b544c',0,'','1lSJyTWP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7364,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1168950120,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','My Alternate Oscars','I plan on starting more extensive research in this department soon, as I do every year around this time. With facets only a few blocks away availability shouldn\'t be an issue. This list is subject to extensive modification, and as you\'ll see some year\'s I don\'t even have one choice suitable. Anyways feel free to critique my very personal choices and offer your own alternatives if you can. In the case of foreign films, I have tried to list films based on what year they had their US premiere, which in many cases does not correspond to international release dates.\r\n\r\nAlternate Best Picture Winners (* agreed with Academy)\r\n1927/28 - Sunrise \r\n1928/29 - Steamboat Bill Jr.\r\n1929/30 - All Quiet on the Western Front*\r\n1930/31 - City Lights\r\n1931/32 - The Grand Hotel*\r\n1932/33 - Duck Soup\r\n1934 - It Happened One Night*\r\n1935 - Top Hat\r\n1936 - San Francisco\r\n1937 - A Star is Born\r\n1938 - The Grand Illusion\r\n1939 - Gone With the Wind *\r\n1940 - The Philadelphia Story\r\n1941 - Citizen Kane\r\n1942 - Yankee Doodle Dandy\r\n1943 - Casablanca *\r\n1944 - Meet Me In St. Louis \r\n1945 - To Have and Have Not\r\n1946 - A Matter of Life and Death/Stairway to Heaven\r\n1947 - Great Expectations\r\n1948 - Oliver Twist\r\n1949 - The Bicycle Thief\r\n1950 - Sunset Boulevard\r\n1951 - Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival \r\n1952 - Singin in the Rain\r\n1953 - Voyage in Italy \r\n1954 - On the Waterfront *\r\n1955 - East of Eden\r\n1956 - The Searchers\r\n1957 - Paths of Glory\r\n1958 - The Seventh Seal\r\n1959 - Ben-Hur *\r\n1960 - Psycho\r\n1961 - La Dolce Vita\r\n1962 - Lawrence of Arabia *\r\n1963 - 8 1/2 \r\n1964 - Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb\r\n1965 - Doctor Zhivago \r\n1966 - Whos Afraid of Virginia Woolf?\r\n1967 - The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly\r\n1968 - 2001: A Space Odyssey\r\n1969 - The Wild Bunch\r\n1970 - Au Hasard Balthazar \r\n1971 - A Clockwork Orange\r\n1972 - The Godfather *\r\n1973 - Mean Streets\r\n1974 - Monty Python and the Holy Grail \r\n1975 - Nashville\r\n1976 - Taxi Driver \r\n1977 - Star Wars\r\n1978 - The Deer Hunter *\r\n1979 - Apocalypse Now\r\n1980 - Ordinary People *\r\n1981 - Reds\r\n1982 - Pink Floyds the Wall\r\n1983 - A Christmas Story\r\n1984 - Once Upon a Time in America\r\n1985 - Ran\r\n1986 - Platoon *\r\n1987 - The Princess Bride\r\n1988 - Last Temptation of Christ\r\n1989 - Do the Right Thing \r\n1990 - Dances With Wolves *\r\n1991 - Landscape in the Mist\r\n1992 - Malcolm X\r\n1993 - Schindlers List *\r\n1994 - Pulp Fiction\r\n1995 - Before Sunrise \r\n1996 - Fargo\r\n1997 - LA Confidential \r\n1998 - Saving Private Ryan\r\n1999 - Magnolia\r\n2000 - Requiem for a Dream\r\n2001 - Moulin Rouge \r\n2002 - The Pianist\r\n2003 - City of God\r\n2004 - The Incredibles \r\n2005 - Sin City \r\n2006 - Bobby \r\n\r\nBest Actor\r\n1927/28 - Charlie Chaplin - The Circus\r\n1928/29 - Buster Keaton - Steamboat Bill Jr.\r\n1929/30 - Lew Ayres - All Quiet on the Western Front\r\n1930/31 - Edward G. Robinson - Little Caesar \r\n1931/32 - Boris Karloff - Frankenstein\r\n1932/33 - Paul Muni - I Am a Fugitive From a Chain Gang\r\n1934 - Clark Gable - It Happened One Night*\r\n1935 - Bela Lugosi - The Raven\r\n1936 - Clark Gable - San Francisco\r\n1937 - Fredric March - A Star is Born\r\n1938 - Cary Grant - Bringing Up Baby\r\n1939 - Jimmy Stewart - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington\r\n1940 - Henry Fonda - The Grapes of Wrath\r\n1941 - Orson Welles - Citizen Kane\r\n1942 - James Cagney - Yankee Doodle Dandy*\r\n1943 - Humphrey Bogart - Casablanca\r\n1944 - Cary Grant - None But the Lonely Heart \r\n1945 - Robert Walker - The Clock \r\n1946 - Jimmy Stewart - Its a Wonderful Life\r\n1947 - Charlie Chaplin - Monsieur Verdoux \r\n1948 - John Wayne - The Three Godfathers\r\n1949 - James Cagney - White Heat\r\n1950 - Spencer Tracy - Father of the Bride\r\n1951 - Montgomery Clift - A Place in the Sun\r\n1952 - Gary Cooper - High Noon*\r\n1953 - \r\n1954 - Marlon Brando - On the Waterfront*\r\n1955 - James Dean - East of Eden\r\n1956 - Laurence Olivier - Richard III\r\n1957 - Kirk Douglas - Paths of Glory\r\n1958 - Marlon Brando - The Young Lions\r\n1959 - Charlton Heston - Ben-Hur*\r\n1960 - Burt Lancaster - Elmer Gantry*\r\n1961 - Paul Newman - The Hustler\r\n1962 - Jack Lemmon - Days of Wine and Roses\r\n1963 - Richard Harris - This Sporting Life \r\n1964 - Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove\r\n1965 - Rod Steiger - The Pawnbroker \r\n1966 - Richard Burton - Whos Afraid of Virginia Woolf?\r\n1967 - Paul Newman - Cool Hand Luke\r\n1968 - Leonard Whiting - Romeo and Juliet\r\n1969 - Dustin Hoffman - The Midnight Cowboy\r\n1970 - George C. Scott - Patton*\r\n1971 - Malcolm McDowell - A Clockwork Orange\r\n1972 - Marlon Brando - The Godfather*\r\n1973 - Marlon Brando - Last Tango in Paris\r\n1974 - Jack Nicholson - Chinatown\r\n1975 - Ryan ONeal - Barry Lyndon \r\n1976 - William Holden - Network\r\n1977 - Woody Allen - Annie Hall\r\n1978 - Jon Voight - Coming Home*\r\n1979 - Roy Scheider - All that Jazz\r\n1980 - Robert De Niro - Raging Bull*\r\n1981 - Warren Beatty - Reds\r\n1982 - Paul Newman - The Verdict \r\n1983 - Michael Caine - Educating Rita \r\n1984 - Christopher Guest - This is Spinal Tap \r\n1985 - William Hurt - Kiss of the Spider Woman*\r\n1986 - James Woods - Salvador \r\n1987 - Jack Nicholson - Ironweed \r\n1988 - Willem Dafoe - The Last Temptation of Christ\r\n1989 - Tom Cruise - Born on the Fourth of July\r\n1990 - Kevin Costner - Dances With Wolves\r\n1991 - Anthony Hopkins - Silence of the Lambs*\r\n1992 - Denzel Washington - Malcolm X\r\n1993 - Liam Neeson - Schindlers List\r\n1994 - Ge You - To Live\r\n1995 - Sean Penn - Dead Man Walking \r\n1996 - Woody Harrelson - The People Vs. Larry Flint \r\n1997 - Jack Nicholson - As Good As it Gets*\r\n1998 - Johnny Depp - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas\r\n1999 - Kevin Spacey - American Beauty*\r\n2000 - Tom Hanks - Cast Away \r\n2001 - Russell Crowe - A Beautiful Mind\r\n2002 - Nicholas Cage - Adaptation \r\n2003 - Sean Penn - 21 Grams\r\n2004 - Clint Eastwood - Million Dollar Baby \r\n2005 - Pierce Brosnan - The Matador \r\n2006 - Leonardo Decaprio - The Departed \r\n\r\nActress\r\n1927/28 - Janet Gaynor - Sunrise*\r\n1928/29 - Marie Falconetti - The Passion of Joan of Arc \r\n1929/30 - Louise Brooks - Pandoras Box\r\n1930/31 - Marlene Dietrich - Morocco \r\n1931/32 - Joan Crawford - The Grand Hotel\r\n1932/33 - Greta Garbo - Queen Christina \r\n1934 - Marlene Dietrich - The Scarlett Empress \r\n1935 - Bette Davis - Dangerous*\r\n1936 - Carole Lombard - My Man Godfrey\r\n1937 - Janet Gaynor - A Star is Born\r\n1938 - Katherine Hepburn - Holiday\r\n1939 - Vivien Leigh - Gone With the Wind*\r\n1940 - Joan Fontaine - Rebecca \r\n1941 - Barbara Stanwyck - The Lady Eve\r\n1942 - Bette Davis - Now, Voyager\r\n1943 - Ingrid Bergman - Casablanca\r\n1944 - Barbara Stanwyck - Double Indemnity \r\n1945 - Joan Crawford - Mildred Pierce* \r\n1946 - Celia Johnson - Brief Encounter\r\n1947 - Deborah Karr - Black Narcissus\r\n1948 - Joan Fontaine - Letter From an Unknown Woman\r\n1949 - Olivia de Havilland - The Heiress*\r\n1950 - Gloria Swanson - Sunset Boulevard \r\n1951 - Shelly Winters - A Place in the Sun\r\n1952 - Maureen O\'Hara - The Quiet Man\r\n1953 - Gloria Grahame - The Big Heat\r\n1954 - Judy Garland - A Star is Born\r\n1955 - Anna Magnani - The Rose Tattoo*\r\n1956 - Barbara Rush - Bigger Than Life \r\n1957 - Giulietta Masina - Nights of Cabiria \r\n1958 - Shirley MacLaine - Some Came Running\r\n1959 - Katherine Hepburn - Suddenly, Last Summer\r\n1960 - Jean Simmons - Elmer Gantry\r\n1961 - Natalie Wood - Splendor in the Grass\r\n1962 - Jeanne Moreau - Jules and Jim\r\n1963 - Patricia Neal - Hud*\r\n1964 - Tippy Hedron - Marnie \r\n1965 - Catherine Deneuve - Repulsion\r\n1966 - Elizabeth Taylor - Whos Afraid of Virginia Woolf?*\r\n1967 - Faye Dunaway - Bonnie and Clyde\r\n1968 - Olivia Hussey - Romeo and Juliet \r\n1969 - Claudia Cardinale - Once Upon a Time in the West\r\n1970 - Liv Ullman - The Passion of Anna \r\n1971 - Jane Fonda - Klute*\r\n1972 - Liza Minnelli - Cabaret* \r\n1973 - Julie Christie - Dont Look Now\r\n1974 - Gena Rowlands - A Woman Under the Influence\r\n1975 - Isabelle Adjani - The Story of Adele H.\r\n1976 - Faye Dunaway - Network*\r\n1977 - Dianne Keaton - Annie Hall*\r\n1978 - Jill Clayburgh - An Unmarried Woman \r\n1979 - Sally Field - Norma Rae*\r\n1980 - Mary Tyler Moore - Ordinary People\r\n1981 - Diane Keaton - Reds\r\n1982 - Meryl Streep - Sophies Choice*\r\n1983 - Shirley MacLaine - Terms of Endearment* \r\n1984 - Linda Hamilton - The Terminator\r\n1985 - Mia Farrow - The Purple Rose of Cairo\r\n1986 - Sigourney Weaver - Aliens\r\n1987 - Holly Hunter - Broadcast News\r\n1988 - Jodie Foster - The Accused*\r\n1989 - Meg Ryan - When Harry Met Sally\r\n1990 - Gong Li - Ju Dou\r\n1991 - Jodie Foster - Silence of the Lambs*\r\n1992 - Catherine Deneuve - Indochine \r\n1993 - Holly Hunter - The Piano*\r\n1994 - Gong Li - To Live\r\n1995 - Nicole Kidman - To Die For \r\n1996 - Frances McDormand - Fargo* \r\n1997 - Helen Hunt - As Good As It Gets*\r\n1998 - Gwyneth Paltrow - Shakespeare in Love*\r\n1999 - Annette Benning - American Beauty\r\n2000 - Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream\r\n2001 - Nicole Kidman - Moulin Rouge \r\n2002 - Renee Zelwegger - Chicago\r\n2003 - Naomi Watts - 21 Grams\r\n2004 - Hilary Swank - Million Dollar Baby*\r\n2005 - Reese Witherspoon - Walk the Line* \r\n2006 - Penelope Cruz - Volver \r\n\r\nDirector \r\n1927-28 - F. W. Murnau - Sunrise\r\n1928-29 - Buster Keaton - Steamboat Bill Jr.\r\n1929-30 - Lewis Milestone - All Quiet on the Western Front*\r\n1930-31 - Charlie Chaplin - City Lights\r\n1931-32 - James Whale - Frankenstein \r\n1932-33 - Mervyn LeRoy - I am a Fugitive From a Chain Gang\r\n1934 - Joseph Von Sternberg - The Scarlett Empress\r\n1935 - James Whale - The Bride of Frankenstein\r\n1936 - W. S. Van Dyke - San Francisco \r\n1937 - William A. Wellman - A Star is Born\r\n1938 - Jean Renoir - The Grand Illusion\r\n1939 - Victor Fleming - Gone With the Wind*\r\n1940 - John Ford - The Grapes of Wrath*\r\n1941 - Orson Welles - Citizen Kane\r\n1942 - Orson Welles and Robert Wise - The Magnificent Ambersons\r\n1943 - Michael Curtiz - Casablanca*\r\n1944 - Vincente Minnelli - Meet Me In St. Louis \r\n1945 - Howard Hawks - To Have and Have Not\r\n1946 - William Wyler - The Best Years of Our Lives*\r\n1947 - David Lean - Great Expectations\r\n1948 - David Lean - Oliver Twist\r\n1949 - Raoul Walsh - White Heat\r\n1950 - Billy Wilder - Sunset Boulevard\r\n1951 - Max Ophuls - La Ronde \r\n1952 - Luis Bunuel - Los Olvidados \r\n1953 - Fritz Lang - The Big Heat \r\n1954 - Elia Kazan - On the Waterfront*\r\n1955 - Elia Kazan - East of Eden\r\n1956 - John Ford - The Searchers\r\n1957 - David Lean - Bridge on the River Kwai*\r\n1958 - Ingmar Bergman - The Seventh Seal\r\n1959 - William Wyler - Ben-Hur*\r\n1960 - Alfred Hitchcock - Psycho\r\n1961 - Federico Fellini - La Dolce Vita\r\n1962 - David Lean - Lawrence of Arabia*\r\n1963 - Federico Fellini - 8 1/2\r\n1964 - Richard Lester - A Hard Days Night\r\n1965 - Sydney Lumet - The Pawnbroker \r\n1966 - Mike Nichols - Whos Afraid of Virginia Woolf?\r\n1967 - Mike Nichols - The Graduate*\r\n1968 - Stanley Kubrick - 2001: A Space Odyssey \r\n1969 - John Schlessinger - The Midnight Cowboy*\r\n1970 - Ken Russell - Women in Love\r\n1971 - Stanley Kubrick - A Clockwork Orange\r\n1972 - Francis Ford Coppala - The Godfather\r\n1973 - Bernardo Bertolucci - Last Tango in Paris\r\n1974 - Roman Polanski - Chinatown\r\n1975 - Robert Altman - Nashville\r\n1976 - Martin Scorsese - Taxi Driver\r\n1977 - George Lucas - Star Wars\r\n1978 - Woody Allen - Interiors\r\n1979 - Bob Fosse - All That Jazz\r\n1980 - Martin Scorsese - Raging Bull\r\n1981 - Warren Beatty - Reds*\r\n1982 - Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot\r\n1983 - Philip Kaufman - The Right Stuff\r\n1984 - Sergio Leone - Once Upon a Time In America\r\n1985 - Akira Kurosawa - Ran\r\n1986 - Oliver Stone - Platoon*\r\n1987 - Joel Coen - Raising Arizona\r\n1988 - Martin Scorsese - The Last Temptation of Christ\r\n1989 - Spike Lee - Do the Right Thing\r\n1990 - Martin Scorsese - Goodfellas\r\n1991 - Oliver Stone - JFK\r\n1992 - Spike Lee - Malcolm X\r\n1993 - Steven Spielberg - Schindlers List*\r\n1994 - Quentin Tarantino - Pulp Fiction\r\n1995 - Richard Linklater - Before Sunrise \r\n1996 - Lars Von Trier - Breaking the Waves\r\n1997 - Woody Allen - Deconstructing Harry\r\n1998 - Steven Spielberg - Saving Private Ryan*\r\n1999 - David Fincher - Fight Club\r\n2000 - Steven Sohderberg - Traffic*\r\n2001 - David Lynch - Mulholland Drive\r\n2002 - Pedro Almodovar - Talk to Her\r\n2003 - Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill, Vol. 1\r\n2004 - Zhang Yimou - Hero \r\n2005 - Rodriguez, Frank Miller, and Quentin Tarantino - Sin City \r\n2006 - Hou Hsiao Hsien - Three Times \r\n\r\nall subject to change specifically the 2006 picks','3ceb1d5ecc4d25823f92663311e2157d',0,'','hoJXKBfY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7365,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169071140,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: My Alternate Oscars','I haven\'t seen all of the films you listed (let alone all Oscar winners), so i cannot say more than that I agree with some, and not with others.\r\nBut I haven\'t seen enough yet to try such a list myself.\r\n\r\nIf you insist though, I could start compiling this.','271368da4126ec5607f2157b9d2c33ac',0,'','aiJSNTcs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7366,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169076540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bamboomedia1','Re: My Alternate Oscars','Im glad you started this thread because I think you have a great idea going here. I have one question for you. Does your list only include your pick for the winner in all four categories or does it also include the nominees as well? Anyhow, if were going to debate any winner on this extensive list I think well need to just go with one year at a time. (For the record, I see some great movies and performances herenot to mention a ton of ones I have never seen.)\r\n\r\nIm going to start with Best Picture 1995. Your pick is: Before Sunrise\r\nAfter doing a little research I want to say that 1995 was a great year. Here is a list of the movies I thought were the best:\r\n\r\n12 Monkeys\r\nNixon\r\nHeat\r\nCasino\r\nLeaving Las Vegas\r\nStrange Days\r\nTo Die For\r\nShallow Grave\r\nThe Basketball Diaries\r\nThe Usual Suspects\r\nSe7en\r\n\r\nOk. I am leaning toward 12 Monkeys, Heat, The Usual Suspects and Se7en. If you put a gun to my head and made me pickI would give the Oscar to12 Monkeys. This was fun. Ill be back to pick another year/category.','0fb6de8834dc4b6c5521969e137dc34f',0,'','anm2Q8Ms',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7367,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169078160,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: My Alternate Oscars','Well this is just the winners, each year I\'ve included nominees as well. My original writing on 1995 has evaporated, but my runners up would be Toy Story first and foremost. My nominees are films that I would be comfortable giving the award to. I haven\'t seen it for years, but at the time I was very much impressed with Mel Gibson\'s Braveheart. Likewise Leaving Las Vegas, Casino, Dead Man Walking, and Se7en are all highlights from the year. Embarrassingly enough I still haven\'t seen Heat, which is even more ironic because I wanted to see it when it was still in theaters 12 years ago.','c09d84c6c4c828aa8071f0d0d403a5df',0,'','ZaDF03ml',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7368,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169247420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: My Alternate Oscars','Since Bamboomedia already wrote a fine example, I\'ll try to pick 1995 also. A great year indeed, although it is very easy for me to choose the winner:\r\n\r\nDead Man (Jim Jarmusch)\r\n\r\nOther nominees would include:\r\nHeat\r\nSe7en\r\nTwelve Monkeys\r\nLeaving Las Vegas\r\n\r\nI only listed US films.','ba307f9d915fb125b555ef964ea04bf6',0,'','RwkW8s2v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7369,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1169248080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: My Alternate Oscars','Well 1995 was the rare year when a foreign language film actually was nominated for best picture (Il Postino), and my logic was that if a film could be nominated for a best picture, then it could technically win.\r\n\r\nNow I would have possibly listed Dead Man, at least as a nominee, but based on how many US critics had it on their 1996 lists, I was unsure whether or not it would have qualified for 1995 Oscar consideration, not like Jim Jarmusch is going to EVER be nominated for an Oscar. Anyways after seeing Alibi, and being enormously impressed with it, I\'m off to Facets to get as many other best picture nominees as I can.','90558644297e1c0706482b6a43edea6f',0,'','qJxcrBYk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7370,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175894340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: My Alternate Oscars','I still haven\'t quite figured out your process. Are you choosing from all films that were nominated by the academy, or are you simply saying what is the best of a given year in your opinion? If so, there are an awful lot of american choices...','6701e227240979a85ea123b8f374ae29',0,'','TRHk9oEU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7371,1533,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1175895240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: My Alternate Oscars','Well one of the problems with foreign films is that finding out the exact year they came out for Oscar contention is hard. My process is best of the year imo, as opposed to the best of what was nominated. Still American dominant aside, I\'d say I\'m still a lot more partial to foreign film than the Academy has been.','7eaa1a0c29918cc35b746996d7557d0b',0,'','gPqL4N97',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7372,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170087300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Best Spanish films','Something I just got per mail:\r\n\r\nHere is a Feb 1976 poll by the Spanish magazine Resenda where 54 critics, 24 professionals and the magazine\'s readership voted the 10 best Spanish films ever made. \r\n\r\n1. El Vergudo (Luis Garca Berlanga / 1963)\r\n2. El Espiritu de la Colmena (Victor Erice / 1973)\r\n3. Bienvenido, Mr Marshall (Luis Garca Berlanga / 1953)\r\n4. Viridiana (Luis Bunuel / 1961)\r\n5. Futivos (Jos Luis Borau / 1975)\r\n6. La Caza (Carlos Saura / 1966)\r\n7. La prima Angelica (Carlos Saura / 1974)\r\n8. La tia Tula (Miguel Picazo / 1964)\r\n9. Tristana (Luis Bunuel / 1970)\r\n10. Calle Mayor (Juan Antonio Bardem / 1956)\r\n------------------------------------\r\n11. Placido (Luis Garca Berlanga / 1961)\r\n12. Muerte de un Ciclista (Juan Antonio Bardem / 1955)\r\n13. El Jardin de las Delicias (Carlos Saura / 1970)\r\n14. Surcos (Jos Antonio Nieves Conde / 1951)\r\n15. Nueva Cartas a Berta (Basilio Martn Patino / 1966)\r\n\r\nAnybody seen any of this.\r\nSpanish cinema is widely neglected outside of the country. Maybe arsaib nows some links to subtitled DVDs? :D','5828024933f629ec8327c9b4a7c2e148',0,'','KC4LPJeG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7373,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170104340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Spanish films','I\'ve only seen the Saura and Bunuel films, I haven\'t even watched my DVD of Spirit of the Beehive yet. Mexican film gets a decent distribution here, but films from Spain are a little harder to come by. I wonder how Almodovar dominated this list would be if it were made today.','28be0550d563784cc6914a95a2ac473f',0,'','PEfAmpx4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7374,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170122760,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jcdavies','Re: Best Spanish films','It\'s not easy getting hold of many of these; El Verdugo/The Executioner is very highly rated in Spain- e.g on the website FilmAffinity. La Caza is another i\'ve long wanted to see. Spirit of the Beehive remains my favourite film.\r\n\r\nAlmodovar: i did see another Spanish critics\' list from just a few years ago and he was a long way from dominating-some surprisingly low placings.','f1a77f95ee0f789f665da208de44031a',0,'','mVLjvuwF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7375,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170123480,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hengcs','Re: Best Spanish films','Thnks for the list,\r\nmaybe it helps to put the year ... \r\n* guess i am too young to have heard of them ... ha ha ha ... just kidding *\r\n\r\nwill get the DVD if anyone knows their availability','3e80e6c02d0a946feb80f220d1ad699f',0,'','6dBWtkpH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7376,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170439320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Spanish films','Ok, I\'ve added the complete names and years of release according to imdb - don\'t know if they are correct though.\r\nI also haven\'t heard of most of these films, and seen none, although I own the Erice film. But my spanish is too bad to watch without subs. Don\'t know about any DVDs. \r\n\r\nI guess Saura\'s Cra cuervos (1976) would have made the list if it had been released one year later. How did it fare on the more recent poll John? From the little I\'ve seen it\'s by far my favorite Spanish film.\r\n\r\nBtw, it\'s incredible how high the imdb rating for the three Berlanga films is.','305c4a45fdc013c7ee1f8f0915a56839',0,'','iG6DCymP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7377,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1170910920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hengcs','Re: Best Spanish films','News\r\n\r\nBest Latin American Film of 2006. This special prize of FIPRESCI will be presented to Brazilian filmmaker Karim Ainouz and his film Suely in the Sky. \r\n\r\nJury members were Mario Naito (Cuba), Jorge Jellinek (Uruguay), Jorge Morales (Chile), Marcelo Janot (Brazil) and Diego Lerer (Argentina). Karim Ainouz will receive the prize on March 17, at the closing ceremony of the Mar del Plata International Film Festival, Argentina. \r\n\r\n\"Here we are facing a fiction that came to us almost as a documentary, opening our eyes to real people not yet translated in cinematographic clichs to an easy explanation of the drama they are living\", writes Jose Carlos Avellar','d2b3e7783638231b3bc26e4a1f453dbd',0,'','imYjPsRX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7378,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1171336680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Iserp','Re: Best Spanish films','I guess the magazine is \'Resea\', and that none of the work of Buuel outside Spain counts here. Almodvar isn\'t as highly praised here in Spain as you can think. Sure some of his best work would be near the top of the list (\"Todo sobre mi madre\", specially); but many people thinks that most of his films that are more polemic than good (and that\'s why he gets oscars: his work is different and \'exotic\' in hollywood)\r\n\r\nOf that list I like:\r\n\r\n- \"El Verdugo\", very good film about the death penalty. I guess it was more shocking when there was death penalty in Spain. Some witty dialogues. I really liked the final scene, worth watching.\r\n\r\n- \"Muerte de un Ciclista\", a personal favourite, about hipocresy in the society.\r\n\r\n- \"Viridiana\", mixing religion facing the crude reality with surrealism. Really good.\r\n\r\nThe other films I have watched are \"Bienvenido Mr. Marshall\", which is OK; and \"Tristana\" and \"El Espritu de la Colmena\", that somewhat i was disappointed with them.\r\n\r\nIf the list was to be made today, i would include:\r\n\r\n\"Los Santos Inocentes\", 1984, Mario Camus\r\n\"El Sur\", 1983, Vctor Erice\r\n\"Abre los Ojos\", 1997, Alejandro Amenbar\r\n\"Volver\", 2006, Pedro Almodvar\r\n\r\nI haven\'t seen \"Cra Cuervos\", I\'ll try to watch it some day.','ad008323cc5959af0aca61092d5158c7',0,'','jKMwRhqY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7379,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1171376520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'A','Re: Best Spanish films','You\'re from Spain, or how come you\'ve seen those films?\r\nI haven\'t seen more than two dozen spanish films yet, so I\'m quite ignorant of the country\'s output. But Cria Cuervos is an exceptional film.','5b69b19c829947d9b2d9b83db57d1136',0,'','Uf1qQilP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7380,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1172195940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Iserp','Re: Best Spanish films','Yep, I am Spanish. I have to say that most film I see is from USA, and only a few Spanish films (40 voted on filmaffinity over 500 i have voted in total).\r\n\r\nI suppose it isn\'t easy to see spanish films outside (not so easy to see old ones here, either, but i guess easier, anyway, hehe)','f855df160683d20ce93e32bfe37b5409',0,'','SAQjKJ30',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7381,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1172464560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Best Spanish films','Great to see \"Death of a Cyclist\" mentioned i taped it on aussie TV years ago it was superb,must pull it out again.El Sur is a film i enjoyed as well besides the Bunuel\'s, \"Spirit of the Beehive\" is the best of the others i\'ve seen so far,but i ain\'t seen em all yet! hope to see more.','a593a6d9501080bd41d18ec3c2e82bcb',0,'','AF1Sbtrj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(7382,1534,7,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1172465280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best Spanish films','Noticing this list I find I\'m ignorant as well. I might start a Spanish film fest of my own, as the Oscar @#%$ is winding down.','f1ff7cd993c1df2057e07a51ba652be5',0,'','W7p0Y8cG',1,0,'',0,0,0),