(1582,416,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035254947,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Classic foreign cooking film','Yes, it is \"Babette\'s Feast\", a movie that is, along with \"Big Night\" and the \"Dinner Rush\", one of the greatest of all cooking-food films, perhaps the best.','0b140c5f7ff5663b1201748205b8e45e',0,'','BYxbX2zU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1583,416,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035256103,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jdcopp','Re: Classic foreign cooking film','If Babette\'s Feast had been made earlier then the Gabriel Axel then they did not credit Isak Dinesen who wrote the original novel as her IMDB profile list only one version of the film. ','be7c99e56e525e2f15dab6d506db76c2',0,'','lDya46e7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1584,417,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035278680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','ok... here\'s a question for ya\'ll','awright... I\'m programming two nights of films... tell me which would you go to see... (1) Sembene\'s Money Order or Mahkmalbaf\'s Moment of Innocence (2) Bela Tarr\'s Damnation or Pialat\'s Van Gogh or Sam Fuller\'s Park Row?  (one from each group).','364bffdaf40690e52029e0c1e6743810',0,'','2gV17Tmh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1585,417,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035988851,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: ok... here\'s a question for ya\'ll','for what it\'s worth, i would go see the Sembene (which i don\'t know) and Tarr (which i haven\'t seen). but Park Row I like very much. so, wish i was there :)','952ad77cb2ff882c93f2edbc7e36c8c7',0,'','32W0L4lf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1586,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035785660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dean','need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','Hello all.\n\nI\'m hoping to open a new video store. I\'m very excited about offering world and indie DVDs, but I need help determining who the audience for these films is (other than myself of course). I\'d be grateful to those of you willing to help me out by taking a survey I\'ve prepared. You can get to it by following this link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=40125135887\n\nIf anyone knows of other resources where I could learn WHO rents/watches foreign and indie films, please, please, please...let me know.\n\nPlease forgive me if this is considered spam; I\'m simply looking for help.\n\nThanks!','9b481ad28fe44b69e8f2ce3bb6f07ebe',0,'','qmCibF5N',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1587,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035946918,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','It really depends on where you are.  If youre in a metropolitan area you have a much better chance of finding that audience.  However if you live in a small Texas suburb like I do, good luck.  I asked a clerk in a large local video chain what her customers had said of AMELIE and she quickly replied, \'my customers dont watch subtitled films.\'','f14c46ef144a7bb353baf3588a4ee995',0,'','SartXoHE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1588,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035974097,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dean','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','Ouch.\n\nFortunately, I live in a rather metropolitan area (which I insist is on the East Coast even though it\'s nowhere near the \"coast.\" We have two impressive institutions of higher learning within a couple miles of my proposed location, as well as another small school dedicated to film. Obviously, these are to my favor. Nonetheless, I have been unable to find any demographics or psychographics for this specific segment of the home entertainment industry. And, the money people expect I should know.\n\nMy frequent visits to local video stores over the years has given me some insight into who the audience is; however, the majority of my friends, sadly, are not into \'foreign\' films.\n\nBTW - I thought Texas was land of the independent movie! Home of Robert Rodriguez...producer of Spanish-language films (and an excellent book!)...UT Austin...quality film school...\n\nOh well...thanks for writing!\nd','1d81d01047f761fb569b0d2ed54e8cbe',0,'','NnXgCrqJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1589,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036045151,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','dean,\n\nI hope that you can franchise your video store.  I live about 30 min. from Boston.  Film wise, that is a world away.  I\'m one of these \"fortunate\" individuals who go to see \"those kind of movies\".  The video stores that are around have copies of foreign films, but not nearly enough to satisfy film junkies & you have to be careful not to pick up a video that has been \"dubbed\".  \n\nCiao.\n\njava','8686e67f0c4c2cbb7c1febdb5f5befd4',0,'','9b6cnvWx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1590,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036523530,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','I watch both.','0d33b7569899a40bb61295f4ec4caea0',0,'','V4FmMTbN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1591,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036535692,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','That\'s a difficult question.  I\'ve worked in a \"specialty\" video store in Toronto, Canada for 17 years (the last 4 as manager).  I don\'t think there is any \"type\" of person that watches foreign and indie films.  I didn\'t think I would like \"serious\" films when I was a kid (I had seen over a hundred horror films before I was 11), but when I stumbled on CITIZEN KANE on television one Saturday night, I was transformed!  I recently hired a 17 year old young man.  I asked him, out of the blue, \"So what was your epiphany?\".  He didn\'t even bat an eye, or ask me to explain myself, he just blurted out, \"Definitely...2001: A Space Odyssey, when I was 12!\"  I guess what I\'m saying is, you can\'t really market the type of store you\'re talking about.  Save on the advertising money, put it into your rental library and...don\'t worry.  If your product is \"good\" the customer\'s will find you.','e910723695fb5851688279643df1ab12',0,'','5bN1yhTp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1592,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040148846,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','The difference between those who watch \'subtitled films\' and those who don\'t is often between those who think and those who don\'t.','f3d8d7c0a661fb3b0103581f3874845f',0,'','oqRaF2b1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1593,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040160791,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','That\'s certainly a nice soundbite, but does anyone really believe that. I am perfectly happy to watch foreign films with subtitles, but I am sure some very intelligent people are turned off by them.\n\nMore fool them I say, but a passion for foreign films is no indication of intellect.','2be20a3ce24de2cc72616f3499807107',0,'','XuENmYVL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1594,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040284635,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','admin-2, where is your specialty video store? I live in Etobikoe (right by Humber College) and a store like yours sounds well worth making the trip too. \n\nP.S. do you have any copies of Rock and Rule or Don Mckellar\'s Last Night?','38b434c238654ed9d4fd20c4d2c6806b',0,'','XsFR7dMc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1595,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041272262,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','I was only joking.  I think it is irrelevant, although you can find a good key to someone\'s personality in the books they read, the films they watch and the music they listen to etc.','e1ee92508514d8778ed3e4cfde101f30',0,'','ixzlgHF5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1596,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051420378,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dean','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','Well. I finally did it. I opened my new DVD store in Pittsburgh, PA. Admittedly, we\'re small compared to a typical store. And although I\'m obviously biased, I think we have a unique selection of international, gay+lesbian, documentary, music and American independent DVDs...with new titles added every week.\n\nIf any of you happen to be from Pittsburgh or visit the area between now and June 30, 2003, mention this post and I\'ll make sure we hook you up with your first rental for free! ;-)\n\nThanks to everyone who helped out with emails and repsonses. Please intrduce yourself if you\'re in the area and check out our website if you get a chance - all of our inventory is real-time. (We also sell some titles.)\n\nBest,\ndB\n\nDreaming Ant\nhttp://www.dreamingant.com\n4525 Liberty Ave (inside Crazy Mocha Coffee Co. - Bloomfield PA)\n412-68DREAM (683-7326)\nopen daily from 4P until midnight\n\nDVDs. A little off center.\n','cb971e96d35d6d2a935835f1b41e6fe9',0,'','v0yhnMgP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1597,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055719540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'michellelocke007','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','It all comes down to the location and target group of who you want entering your video rental shop.  Here in Canada where I reside, there are quite a lot of places that offer mainly indie and foreign films to the discerning public and people who appreciate a great film that isn\'t typically hollywood.  This one video stores aside from offering your usual membership, can also e-mail it\'s users up-coming films, gives it\'s new members a catalogue of all it\'s movies in stock.  They also have a great website which one can purchase movies from and have a wide range of categories to choose from.','2f0aaf63ce363cfa0cc33150c36df914',0,'','vH4jlJ3p',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1598,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056164790,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kgordon','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','So...what does it say about a person that can\'t enjoy a movie that doesnt have subtitles..I reformat Czech PAL movies to NTSC movies..and I usually watch between 3 and 10 movies a day..all with subtitles...the other day I went to the movies..and had a hard time following it..then I realized why...I wasn\'t listening to it..Now that is scary!! About dubbed movies..I have Lemonady Joe with subtitles and dubbed..and unless you are illiterate, blind, or elderly, I can not understand why anyone would prefer that..but then again, I dont understand why most people enjoy some of the movies that they do.','c5db195de7251278e9f00e98a8c0c4bc',0,'','zaUGygRW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1599,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056778569,1,0,1,1,1,1,'igland','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','Hi! It said \"this survey is closed\". I would gladly fill it out. Also, if you have some good ideas about where to find that info - could you please post it here?\nThank you!\nIg.','193b22903357d0638f12a40e80098298',0,'','hCL3mcFv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1600,418,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057048671,1,0,1,1,1,1,'moviemaniac','Re: need help determining WHO watches \'foreign\' and indie films','Hi Dean\n\ni hv gone to your website. Wow, it looks good. Congrats.\n\nAs for me, can i ask whether you will be able to provide a service where customers can buy and download movies from your store-site without getting the actual DVD or VCD. This is bcos i live overseas and do not want the hassle of getting the physical products.\n\nYour reply is appreciated.\n\nCordially\nmoviemaniac ','07291a426b00d4780ff17f1f25c901b4',0,'','U4uclK8m',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1601,419,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035889802,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Has anyone seen the new Godard film \"In Praise of Love\"?','I just saw it at a sneak preview screening, and I really loved it. A cinematic essay on memory, life, and language as love. The film is similar to \"Masculin/Feminin\" and \"Contempt\", in that it\'s essaytic and extremely deft and complex. I expected a bit more from the Father of Modern Cinema, and the greatest living director, but hey. I\'d like to read more opinions.\nGodard is still a genius.','e03219f4fb197e59efc154153389e6c3',0,'','xP4yGb6F',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1602,419,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035944287,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jason-3','Re: Has anyone seen the new Godard film \"In Praise of Love\"?','Looking forward to seeing it... especially after your comparison to \"Masculin/Feminin\", my favorite Godard film.','3c9693624c18c12dc4060c9e424de5b8',0,'','TJ6qKrtQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1603,419,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036027286,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Has anyone seen the new Godard film \"In Praise of Love\"?','yes.it is brilliant,some beautiful monochrome photography\'with refernces to renoir &especially vigo,then into glorious digital.i loved it & am looking forward to getting a copy.luc-godard is still on the ball.','ca0179d9bea6e0af0e884748cd6592d4',0,'','d2QwYbW6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1604,419,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036093172,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: Has anyone seen the new Godard film \"In Praise of Love\"?','It\'s nice to know that the \"old boy\" can still irritate people.  Some of the criticism he\'s taken for this film because it is perceived to be \"anti-American\", is laughable in the extreme.  But I guess insane, extreme times bring out insane, extreme opinions!','fc114a18a09e8a5a6b6ae2d20b7bc7ae',0,'','YvclksPu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1605,419,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036322575,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Has anyone seen the new Godard film \"In Praise of Love\"?','Exelent film. The flasback in colour and the present in black and white, Goddard would be a good painter. the dialogues about cinema are sharp and honest. AT times hard to follow, the first time I gave up, the second I watch the whole film and loved it, then again i won\'t see the film in a while I think.','d1d206442d6b8a74bfe0df84a4be0f1e',0,'','bDQG5iny',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1606,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1035986667,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Italian For Beginers','have you seen it? I am thinking of buying the DVD, what you reckon?','8d3320db683e8ca90d5c6cc3c2f9a0fb',0,'','36CK9N7g',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1607,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036164183,1,0,1,1,1,1,'winstonwes','Re: Italian For Beginers','Buy it, it\'s brilliant!','b03d089f6af8ca7330f3dddfb1f5f6cf',0,'','BiLerv3t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1608,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036177538,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Italian For Beginers','Thnaks you I am trying but it\'s sold out here in Uk at the momment, as soon as I can i will get it cheers\n\n&gt;;-)','619dbc7d165b87f09c7136b8baf27bf1',0,'','UiqumyRr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1609,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038370017,1,0,1,1,1,1,'H20gateburgler','Re: Italian For Beginers','has one of the hottest flirtation turned to \'sex\' scenes ever!','41dd76ea3de731f153961a4e423f563b',0,'','A90P7JWF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1610,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038803897,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Italian For Beginers','I noticed at the beginning that it is a \"Dogma 95\"(or what ever number that is..) film. Is that the reason the \"look\" of the film is like a documentary.  I found the look to be annoying in the beginning but got used to it later on. I would say I generally dont like it and hope others dont adopt it.  But, the movie was very good.','2300cca499a3c60f15bcf15ab2c095f8',0,'','yns796Db',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1611,420,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040148663,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Italian For Beginers','Please don\'t remind me of that film.','ccca0cf39ab0448c8269bdf98563770b',0,'','znfHd2yl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1612,421,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036165101,1,0,1,1,1,1,'winstonwes','Foreign Film lovers in South East England','I\'m a 22 year old student at the University of Brighton, who adores foreign films, and I regularly visit our beautiful little art house cinema here. Unfortunately, none of my freindship group have the same taste in cinema as me (they\'d prefer to watch Leathal Weapon 4!!) and so I\'m looking to meet new people either in person, or over the net to discuss films and swap recommendations with. If you are that person reply to this message and I\'ll get in touch.','b6ce36f9292f01f7412f79c67162839c',0,'','P7W1tA3n',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1613,421,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036196146,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Foreign Film lovers in South East England','Contact me at g_bu@hotmail.com and maybe we can start talking.','90c7aeca2c9a25cfd7224c8c2222d921',0,'','3pyXJo5N',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1614,421,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036472515,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Foreign Film lovers in South East England','Welcome to the wonderful world of foreign-language cinema ( since it\'s all \"foreign\" somewhere.)  Youre gonna have a blast watching the most incredible, innovative, and thought-provoking films.  Good call on steering clear of Lethal Weapon 4.','f1e611f70575bef821f162a70d036cde',0,'','q30TMtPb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1615,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036401939,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','What country has the best foreign films?','What country makes the best foreign films.  Don\'t just say Japan because of Akira Kurosawa.  I would say Japan because I am fascinated by samurai culture.  And ninjas.  Ninjas are great.  www.realultimatepower.net','2f0ae44ec841c956ed37b59135b8fa57',0,'','73YgFznr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1616,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036425211,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Frankly, this question is so inane, I\'m not going to qualify it with an answer.','83e00db064af87702e37333b5c23f35b',0,'','phVgmktL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1617,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036472115,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I\'m inane so I\'ll answer but it is a loaded question...Check out CHINA, esp Zhang Yimou\'s work. Ive watched about 100 foreign films in the last half year and thats my vote.','84fff3419d1edb787cc05bdf0ec5b3fc',0,'','PJ0rcweh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1618,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036487115,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Sorry you think my topic is inane, Gaz, but I\'m just starting to get into foreign films.  I hope you will excuse me for wanting to know what I should get into.','f7a455b9a6ccf3caeffad6e420d53f69',0,'','Znzv2tdE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1619,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036509429,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','But there\'s so much more to cinema than bloody ninjas!\n\nMy vote is for Germany, particulary Murnau, Fassbinder, and various one-off films like \'Maedchen in Uniform.\'','e3acec5546b3b8c3cf8674dc9ae235fc',0,'','cjgDrSfN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1620,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036510664,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','My intention was not to offend, just to point out that this site isn\'t about a competition between countries. I love films from all over the world - one country is not necessarily the best. It would be far more constructive to ask which directors other people consider best. For what it\'s worth, I don\'t know what kind of non-Japanese films would appeal to a ninja-lover, but watch this space...','c763482f4e991da77b75b35c3323cae1',0,'','S6Nmruyw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1621,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036523461,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','France:\nmovies by Godard, Besson, Renoir, and Costas-Gavras; also film noir, and comedies (like Francis Veber movie) that Hollywood made lame remakes of.\n\nSpain:\nBuñuel (also see above) and Almodovar\n\nGermany:\nold favorites like Nosferatu and Metropolis, to the Tom Tykwer thriller\n\nItaly:\nRoberto Benigni comedies like Johnny Stecchino and Life Is Beautiful; the original Swept Away; Antonioni and Fellini flicks.\n\nHong Kong:\nobviously the best martial arts and triad films before the stars went to Hollywood; also Shaolin Soccer\n','46cb82ddb57c4fb5d4985a0cf0e01d3e',0,'','tm9vLTCl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1622,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036527267,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I tend to like French and Italian movies. It probably has something to do with being Italian. Nanni Moretti is my favorite director. I also think Cinema Paradiso is great. Indochine is another favorite.','10fb59abc39ce24525e0c0df4b8ce253',0,'','ivBDT7Gc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1623,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036534949,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','This is a question that I actually think is challenging!\n\nIf you\'re talking about the quality of output, throughout the history of film...I think I would have to say Sweden.  Not because they make more \"masterpieces\", but because they seem to only export their \"best\".  I wish more countries would show the restraint the Swede\'s do when foisting their films on the rest of the world (take that FRANCE...You too ITALY!)\n\nSjostrom, Molander, Stiller, Bergman (Ing & Dan), Troell, Christensen, Sjoberg, Widerberg, (early) Hallstrom and Moodysson, etc.!  They may not make a lot of films, but they make a lot of good film directors.','69b883a5c1686ab3989be06e47511c02',0,'','K5rjtbCH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1624,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036543680,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I may be bias, being that Bergman is my favorite director.\nSweden is my choice of country and Bergman represents it well.','9701c79ddb756f1a1652d60df549024a',0,'','ga9GmVeo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1625,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036579296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'J-Man','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Well Gaz actually best directors is also not very good because we all have someone different whom we think fits that category. And as for countries, I will say that my favorite country is probably Russia, simply astounding filmmakers and their visions, Russia has had a history of great artists, and they say when you mix politics with art you get a potent solution.','6fed367a32ef92ac819ebba539d3a1f1',0,'','WeErFZqH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1626,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036614946,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Well Curt, you\'ve already hit on the right country, if not for its best films. Try not only Kurosawa (who needs little publicity) but Takeshi Kitano (violent, humorous cool), Ozu (quiet wisdom), Oshima (radical, challenging) Kore-eda, Imamura, Ichikawa and many others. And not forgetting contemporary animation. Then you can move up to the highest level cinema has yet reached; the films of Kenji Mizoguchi. \n\nMy own 3 strongest recommendations would be; Sansho the Bailiff, Seven Samurai, Tokyo Story, from the 3 most famous Japanese grandmasters.\n\nOf course there are wonderful films in many countries. France has produced a huge number of masterpieces, and i\'m also partial to Russian cinema. ','d1f67c2ca69059a6a7a15065871eb4c4',0,'','JnQi9Hju',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1627,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036617065,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I must add that i\'m heartened by the number of excellent films from Iran in recent years- a couple of dozen, of a consistently high standard, have been \"doing the rounds\" in Britain and America-, and by the resurgence of Spanish and Latin American cinema (rather more sexy and trendy). And Japan is certainly not the only far Eastern country producing a range of good stuff. Some top films from China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, even Vietnam. The world is your oyster.','1589b2f7233c6f8f43526fd409bd18ec',0,'','am315L7d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1628,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036619440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','OH MAN!  How could I forget IRAN!  They\'re making some really great films!  But be aware, you may be able to tell where the censor stepped in and said, \"no...sorry...you can\'t go THAT far\".  A good \"western style\" Iranian film to get you into their cinema is a lovely little film called \"The Last Act\".  It\'s a \"domestic thriller\" that actually has the feel of Clouzot\'s LES DIABOLIQUES (even if it cops out at the end).  ','abf699c702c5d4e80b1d2c5d673acc95',0,'','HtmzU0wW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1629,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036632590,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','iranian cinema is great yet to see a bad one,& censorship is a worry but don\'t we get that everywhere? we do here in aussie.the humanism & the issue with children most appeal to the heart.','7f8e9759a891b4732a778b77401b5927',0,'','REBmn8S3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1630,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036633108,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Sure, best directors is not good, but it\'s a better way of classifying films than by nationality. The fact that anyone will have their own personal opinion is beside the point: this is the case in any situation.\n\nIn short, my point is that it may be useless classifying the films of a certain country together. For instance, Mon Pere, Ce Heros is far removed from La Haine, which in turn has not much in common with Jules et Jim. I only liked one of these three films, yet (correct me if I\'m wrong) they are all from the same country.','71dc163c22550ca422ddf27815c9893b',0,'','E9RPwJs5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1631,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036640863,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','What country? What director? It doesn\'t really matter in the end.  The most important thing is the reason we all frequent this site.  WE LOVE FOREIGN FILMS!','d92a0cc4dea63f631da7cf533146c0c4',0,'','ib79zPcy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1632,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036641157,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','And for what it\'s worth, I\'ll take Japan.  I\'ve yet to see a Japanese I didn\'t like.  Everything from the acknowledged classics like Ikiru and Ugetsu to the Zatoichi series of films.','d530a19ca90ae50795bccade585e6264',0,'','ovNHejEp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1633,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036643331,1,0,1,1,1,1,'J-Man','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Yes Gaz I know, but like countries filmakers evolve just the same, well the good ones anyway, they keep their trademarks, but will change somewhat. As for the term foreign, I do not care for it, see I live in Canada so US movies are \"foreign\" to me, also it doesnt really mean anything because a filmaker can choose to make a film in any country or any story he chooses.','b7a9cbdc7629f56200f57f1856edb007',0,'','hWcv9puG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1634,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036683753,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','It\'s pointless arguing with some people...\n\nIt\'s certainly got everyone talking, I can\'t deny that, but you won\'t get me saying one country is best. Well OK, France.','7b7b253d5f26ef00133eb0588b565f3f',0,'','WV40NHQ6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1635,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036716414,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I gave my opinion a few posts ago that my favorite country for foreign films is Japan.  However, when it comes to directors, I don\'t think any country, as a whole, can compare to France.  The quality and quantity is incredible!','8c339aa29c2a755cd8de219736fe881e',0,'','DcEFMbpv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1636,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036729686,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','For me, it\'s a toss up between French & Italian cinema.  Bread & Tulips was terrific.  I\'m SO looking forward to Pinocchio. I love Roberto Benigini (sp).  Then there\'s Amelie, Under the Sand, and The Trouble with Harry.\n\nCiao.\n\njava','fb6a43705da4b9381400a2a2978abbe2',0,'','jSlTnQ0k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1637,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036745170,1,0,1,1,1,1,'J-Man','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Some people are just plain turned off by the french cinema, it\'s one of those things I feel that you either like it or you don\'t and if I had to choose a fantastic french director I would choose Bresson although I have yet to see one of his films, they interest me more than the other french filmmakers.','4b03f399985b11586344225035a242c6',0,'','wMeNBmGs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1638,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036788192,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I wonder where CURT is.  Is he still with us?  Did we loose him because some of us didn\'t take his query seriously?  If we did, then it is a loss for ALL OF US.  Any new convert to \"foreign\" film is a blessing.  Perhaps we should have embraced him an \"brought him along\".  We could have talked TO instead of AT him.  Oh Well...','55e922cd8a2ba5d5c66b304f99960072',0,'','NKx7mcCf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1639,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036824544,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I\'m right here, admin2!  I\'ve been reading all these posts and they are very helpful.  It\'s giving me a good idea of what films to look into.  I was just kidding about the ninja thing.  I watched Seven Samurai and loved it.  I also saw City of Lost Children by Jean-Pierre Jeunet.  It was brilliant.  That is why I\'m getting into foreign films.  I\'m sick of formulaic Hollywood crap.  ','06a3505d2ab94002211193dfd1396024',0,'','Lv2lt1Sh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1640,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036827895,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Here\'s a few more suggestions.  Anything by Renoit( Grande Illusion, Rules of the Game ), Bergman( Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona ), and Russian Cinema( Battleship Potemkin, Cranes are Flying, Come and See ).  And a great Kurosawa film that is not of the samurai genre is Dersu Uzala.  Happy watching!','974477e086e5a07f36733c64d9e5e7a5',0,'','S2j0L3nw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1641,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036836994,1,0,1,1,1,1,'J-Man','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Perhaps I should rectify some of what I said earlier, I mean I am fully intent on seeing such a film as Weekend as it interests me much, but in general I don\'t think I like frencs cinema that much because of the humanism/realism element. And I know that that is a generalisation in itself, so I will see some more films before forming what my taste is for french films, it\'s just that to me they seem different than quite a few other countries. Like when people say that that is such a french film, well for me that maybe kind of turns me off and as I\'m sure you can tell by now I prefer films with more interesting elements than just mere humanity and realism, in fact I usually prefer them. But if a realism/humanistic film comes along that\'s entertaining to me, then I will think twice before passing judgement.','c90b857598f490505a640143dffcf15c',0,'','DYWkN5G3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1642,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036912082,1,0,1,1,1,1,'annelibrary','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','My favorites are often from mainland China (Zhang Yimou, Wai Kar-Wai or Iran. However, I\'m quite eccletic- one of my favorites is Divided We Fall which is from the Czech republic.','d55cf0c03f8f45c528c5c6d8c403882b',0,'','kdq59N0v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1643,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037346199,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Good question.  It made me stop and think about it.  Fassbinder, Lang & Wenders give the rest something to live up to so possibly Germany but it\'s hard to go past Bergman and Kurosawa and Renoir as the masters.','8ebe354edcf24aa5967c6df3cf3ee4f0',0,'','WyRPCYhz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1644,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037346667,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','You may enjoy the Iranian film, The White Balloon directed by Jafar Panahi.  ','082cb62f5520a8e5d6d36a4d3f03d4e0',0,'','ca43EJZ2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1645,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037375894,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','The discourse is firing. I don\'t mind the classification by country notion, after all how often do we qualify a film in regular conversation by pointing out some time in, say, the first two sentences where it was made (not forgetting international co-productions, of course). Responding to this question is particularly difficult. I think we might want to expand on it somehow by suggesting, perhaps, that we might be fascinated by a nation\'s films because there is a link with aspects of its culture (maybe only film culture) that we are drawn to. Given that, I\'d have to respond with one of a number of Asian cinemas: Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan. For some wild cards, I\'d like to see more Egyptian and any country\'s indigenous films. Of course almost every country (Iran seems a notable exception at the moment) has its own counterpart to the dominant (i.e. Hollywood) film production mode and many filmmakers listed here already fall squarely into this category (Zhang Yimou, Benigni, Moodysson, Kassovitz, Jeunet, and arguably Kurosawa). Foreign does not always equal different.','5c542e9de4c8d249277a444c1bced835',0,'','pi9rEGqK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1646,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037385154,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','It IS okay to classify a film by it\'s country of origin.  Look at the name of this website.  FOREIGN films.  That at least tells you that the film is not American.','8ea4737cfa6c32ef6937c4898bc83927',0,'','G0CHpFoL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1647,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037386103,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Don\'t take this the wrong way (i.e. as anti-Americanism) but rather than equate foreign with anything that is not from the motherland, it\'s probably more accurate to think of a foreign film as predominantly containing a \"non-English language.\" The term is used within some relative minnows, such as my own, that exist outside the context of the States (e.g. Canada, UK, Australia, NZ) Thus even an American produced film that utters mainly in a non-English language (e.g. i have no idea what, but not Nell, haha) might be conducive to the foreign film label. But, damn, it\'s only a category. Hardly worth quibbling over, huh!','c10e1179005a86e8d0d292a41aa21da6',0,'','jkKzUZe0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1648,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037402050,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Well, I\'ve taken some time responding to this one--primarily because I\'m pretty much at a loss on this matter.  I seriously doubt that I\'ve seen an adequate number of foreign films to pass judgment here, and my lack of knowledge of recent cinema is a pretty substantial lacuna in my knowledge of these matters.  There are other problems as well:  we just don\'t have time to watch all these movies, our conception of a nation\'s cinema is (largely) formed by the films that distributors decide are worth picking up, etc.  I doubt I need to spell these things out for anyone here.\n\nThat said, it\'s not like I\'m going to keep myself from holding forth on this matter.  So here\'s my extremely tentative judgment on this matter:  I find that the German films I\'ve seen have been of the most consistent quality.  (Bear in mind that this is a judgment concerned with German film up to the New German Cinema, and who knows when that ended exactly.  Naturally, I\'m ignoring the whole Nazi cinema debacle.  I\'ve seen a few things from this period, and I don\'t have much of a desire to revisit them anytime soon.  For the most part, they didn\'t strike me as obviously pernicious:  a lot of them were just run-of-the-mill entertainments.  Still, it\'s hard to shake the conviction that there\'s something unseemly about these films.)\n\nWhy German cinema?  It just strikes me that there were three strong periods of German filmmaking--the silent era, Weimar, and the New German Cinema--and good work was being done by several filmmakers in each of these periods.  Plus, I realize this is probably cheating, but I\'m also taking into consideration the Hollywood careers of German expatriates.  So the spectacular American work of, say, Lang and Murnau gives German national cinema a boost.  \n\nI also have an affinity for the Japanese cinema.  I just thought I\'d add that in here--you know, just in case you find my adoration of Teutonic cinema puzzling or unjustifiable.\n\n','e642fe93bb272064c592c738d43c513c',0,'','XNRneLwQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1649,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037994623,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Tigerlily707','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Most of my favorite foreign films are French and Chinese.','e1b1e44064cf52231b7869b26251ba57',0,'','wYu5yKFU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1650,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038190153,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','French Films are Superior to any-as for Contributions-The Uk as it has the best Actors,Directors,Production and crews in the world.As for Mr Shakespeare say no more.','a9bbd34845310c1efd407c6916a26ed7',0,'','mfjdnAKB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1651,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038367655,1,0,1,1,1,1,'H20gateburgler','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','the USSR! when there still was one.\n\nForgotten Tune for a Flute\nMoscow Does Not Believe in Tears\nBallad of a Soldier\nSiberiade\nPrivate Life','f6b1f3d26911d59e7404892ac90d0fc9',0,'','AN8rhaS4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1652,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039479520,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mrodriguez4','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Has anyone seen movies from Argentina?  In my opinion, some are quite good.  For Example; Man Facing Southeast (Hombre mirando al sureste), The son of the bride (El hijo de la Novia), 8 Queens (8 Reynas), Herencia etc.\n\nI\'m interested on hearing feedback if anyone seen these movie.','ebae3ac4042e5f215172c3935285d0e6',0,'','BHR2ocQA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1653,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039636928,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','No offense, but this question is kinda dumb, since we can only answer of films we have seen that have been IMPORTED to the USA. We don\'t know about the hundreds of films France, Germany, Italy, etc. make each year that we never see. Although I would have to say the country with the most popular imports has got to be France, and they were also the most influential, from Truffaut\'s \"Politique Du Autuers\" forever changing film history.','08d86fd91173bc6dd808ff9ddc2b6d01',0,'','URZKdVrv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1654,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039656463,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','France,Ussr/Russia,Japan in that order.but the Chinese & Iranian stuff is excellent as well.Then there\'s italy,Germany &the nordic countries,African & Latino cinema is good too.there is so much good stuff. i have just got into Romanian film so it is all an education which i love ...cheers','4213a3a0e813a447024b2c5a9e1cba76',0,'','wtagLZUj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1655,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040358491,1,0,1,1,1,1,'plllll','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Italy!!!!!!!!!!  By far. ','691f35b67d6cfbd676a41240bc9c2d10',0,'','z47c3ts5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1656,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040358557,1,0,1,1,1,1,'plllll','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Italy!!!!!  It is the only country that has Marco Leonardi and Raoul Bova!!!!!!!','e5bb501bb7fd3132bb13cd701c47d383',0,'','F8mUWpQ9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1657,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057798425,1,0,1,1,1,1,'asia_bebe','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I WOULD have to TAKE THE CHina SIDE\n\ni think their movies are like one of THE BEST! from my point of view CHINA i would take my side on\n\nbut, then i would have to take \n\nHINDI \n\nfor LOVE MOVIE ! OH MY GOSH THEY MAKE THE BEST LOVE MOVIES it\'s so touchin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or else KOREAN Series of MOVIES !!!!\n\nbut, for LOVE I would CHOOSE HINDI !!!!!! THE BEST\n\nbut, i AM STILL SIDING FOR CHINA\nCHINA\nCHINA\nCHINA\n\nms.mindy','6a0df63394fba32d7031433ee900af95',0,'','3cCWPM0l',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1658,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057849944,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ksparent','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','It was a trick question, right? No country can have foreign movies, only native ones.\n\nOr perhaps I should pick some country without a strong movie industry, like Antactica since every movie in the world would qualify as a foreign movie to it.\n\nOkay, so it\'s not technically a country.','258ee1dc85f44341f884aab58adb4711',0,'','UhJswBSg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1659,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057857365,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Exactly! Antarctica has the best foreign films - stands to reason. Don\'t know why I didn\'t think of it before. Too stupid probably.','36e1a21fca54fcd33d91004ef31e99c6',0,'','X3Wy4Scg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1660,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057894132,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','A great Antarctic film is SOUTH - Ernest Shackleton\'s expedition A silent classic from 1919,with unforgettable cinematography by the master Frank Hurley an excellent Doco!','1743733618de97222532fd5415f6e606',0,'','uQVfY9kR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1661,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057949871,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','This \"inane question\"(gaz)has generated some valuable comments. Fact is the foreign films that get distribution nowadays(and local video release) are the ones distributors find easy to market/most likely to make money(wvq). These are the films on which we base our notion of a nation\'s cinema(bigpoppa). I try to fight by watching films with no distribution at festivals and buying imported videos(not region 1).\n Current East European cinema is particularly neglected in English-speaking countries. Mexico had a \"golden age\" parallel to the one in Hollywood, and Argentina and Brasil produced many excellent films during the 60s and 70s that we\'ll never get a chance to watch.\nHaving said that, I\'d like to hail the French for consistently producing quality films decade after decade, and also for financing films from countries with limited resources. Three countries that have produced some of the most important films in the history of the medium:Russia, Italy and Germany, are clearly no longer as important (\"Bella Martha\",\"Bread & Tulips\", \"Nowhere in Africa\" are worth-watching but not great cinema). Great movies are more likely to come out of Iran, Taiwan, and South Korea nowadays.\nOn a positive note, within the past year or so, three masterpieces I thought I\'d never get a chance to watch have been released on dvd in North America:\nFritz Lang\'s Ger/India co-production \"Indian Epic\"(1959),\n\"El Imperio de la Fortuna\"(1974) from the great Mexican director Arturo Ripstein, and \"Daisies\"(1968) from the Czech Republic. ','63709939168a46ea2d77c952e781d43d',0,'','ElPGwKbB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1662,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057971090,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I know, I know, but my point still stands. I was rash as usual to condemn the question, but it is still stupid to class one country as above the rest.\n\nI agree in general on the point about Russian, German and Italian cinema. The best films nowadays seem to me to be independent US/UK films, and films from France, Latin America and Scandinavian/ex-Russian states.\n\nThere are, of course, many exceptions.','b546c6784d72edca78028ad29b2596e7',0,'','MtFRwfBl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1663,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057997622,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I wasn\'t being derisive, gaz. Your point still stands. Note, for instance, the number of remarkable Hollywood films directed by European immigrants, and how many recent films are co-produced by two or more nations. But many have inclinations toward films from a particular country, and I find their explications interesting. Anyway, this board has actually generated discussion, which is not too common.\nIf we limit our discussion to the present, I\'d have to say that the films that are moving the medium forward, and creating truly original art, are not coming out of Europe and the Americas.(There are exceptions).\nAbbas Kiarostami from Iran and the taiwanese Hou Hsiao-hsien have created an \"unfinished cinema\"(a term used by A.K. in a statement he made at Cannes \'95) that encourages one to \"participate\" in completing the film through interpretation of rather ambiguous images. Hou in particular likes to let the viewer decide where to direct his attention: no close-ups, no detail shots, no highlighting, the most subtle camera movement, etc. Other directors who attempt to shakes us out of nostalgia and comfort are: Taiwanese Edward Yang(A Brighter Summer Day, YiYi), Korean Jin-ho Hur(One Fine Spring Day,Christmas in August), Jia Zhangke (Unknown Pleasures,Platform), Stanley Kwan(Actress, Rouge)and Alexandr Sokurov, from Russia.      ','69a33efe8d2dd073385fe3fb49923133',0,'','0FakjLA2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1664,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058063235,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Nationality is important in the sense that Hou Hsiao-hsien and Edward Yang make films about personal and national identity within their country; what it means to be Taiwanese given the turbulent history of the country (credit: All Movie Guide). Hsiao-hsien and Yang are, first and foremost, Taiwanese directors making films that interest Taiwanese people. The same is true for most directors working within their native countries. They may not be as overt as Hsiao-hsien and Yang in making films about national identity or the social & political history of their country, but they\'re all a part of their culture and the primary audience is their people. \n\nI don\'t think you can say Taiwanese films are better than Chinese films, and I doubt anyone here would do that, aside from saying they enjoy one more than the other. You can definitely make comparisons between the two, because it\'s pretty clear, to me, that a whole generation of Taiwanese and Chinese directors have informed and influenced one another, and their films contrast and complement each other. The same kind of connections could be made throughout the history of film. \n\nI agree with katsuben that our fascination with certain cinema usually comes from an interest in that culture (I\'m personally interested in the Japanese aesthetic of Mono No Aware), but it\'s more useful to compare directors within that cinema (and the subject matter they deal with), or take a broader look at the history of that cinema, and where a particular director fits in. If you want to compare directors, films, or even entire cinemas from different countries, it\'s probably be best to compare them in terms of what\'s universal to all of them -- not necessarily the human truths, but the cinematic language of filmmaking and editing. \n\nAt the end of the day, filmmaking is all about economics and where the money is, so you get producers looking all over the world for pockets of money (usually where a government has allowed a tax break for filmmaking). Thus nationality is becoming less important in modern cinema. The greater emphasis is on where the film can be shot for cheapest (even if that location is filling in for another), and cheaper distribution (provided you do post-production in their country), etc., which is great in terms of bringing the international filmmaking community together, but one can no longer say that films are entirely national, because most films that \"travel\", so to speak, are co-productions at some level. Most of the films that screen internationally are a result of being shown at overseas film festivals, and a hell of a lot of money is poured into getting those films screened in the first place. It\'s an incredibly competitive market. My producing teacher was telling us about what Cannes is like, and it\'s just a madhouse. \n\nIn the end, a person\'s choice in cinema usually comes down to aesthetics, and those aesthetics come out of a rich tradition of filmmaking or art itself, or a turbulent political history. A lot of great films are made during or after periods of war, for instance. Personally, I\'m interested in great stories from anywhere, but that in itself is an aesthetic. ','080bb379d612c18e4145f442647c8944',0,'','bfhdRYGr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1665,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058164878,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','You make excellent points. I\'m thinking about your comment that most directors\' primary audience is \"their people\" and how it must feel to be one of the few whose films are better-received abroad. Abbas Kiarostami is the major director that comes to mind. Some of his films aren\'t even SHOWN in Tehran. At least Americans get a chance to watch Woody Allen\'s films and embrace them, and reject them as deserved.\n\nFor me, Hou is in a class by himself. Of course he is \"informed and influenced\" by others, no one lives in a vacuum. But Hou is a true original, perhaps the most inventive narrative filmmaker working today. Artists like Hou are seldom given enough credit until old or dead, because they push the medium forward rather than repeat  the old, comfortable modes. I still remember 2001 getting horrid reviews from notables like Pauline Kael. ','184cb4b5a2f0d888d254d50432edc58f',0,'','6VkGTzFU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1666,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058234005,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','Hou Hsiao-hsien seemed to have a better reputation at the end of the 1980\'s, in a 1988 New York Film Festival World Critics Poll, he was voted one of three directors who would most likely shape cinema in the coming decades. Shortly thereafter, he produced Raise the Red Lantern, and maybe the success of that film is the reason why New Zealand has every single Chinese 5th Generation film ever made, yet nothing by Hou Hsiao-hsien. \n\nTo see Hou\'s films, I have to rely on friends overseas, or my University\'s audio visual library, where I saw Edward Yang\'s A Brighter Summer\'s Day (which hasn\'t been released on DVD, although I read someone saying they had a laserdisc version from Hong Kong). It\'s really strange to me that someone who was the darling of the international film festival circuit in the 80\'s is no widely unavailable. I suppose it goes to show how far video stores have come throughout the 90\'s in terms of stocking festival and foreign films, but it\'s awfully frustrating. They still lean heavily towards European cinema. ','7c7602bd6f3afda633927e3a160e470c',0,'','nD36dFUN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1667,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058426870,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','WESTERN European cinema in particular.','bfeeb072c8500e0b6a5e38cdf67066b9',0,'','m1Gl4Y7P',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1668,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1061779159,1,0,1,1,1,1,'felipejuanfroilan','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','I think the country is France. It is difficult to find another one where so many directors have tried to create their own formal languuage in creating films, wether we like them or not.\nMoreover, French film industry receives official support from longtime ago. Their films obtain 35% of share in their own country, while other countries like Spain see that their films get hardly a 12% every year.\nThe problem is that it is possible to see good cinema in France, but also pretty bad one. The excessive dependance on literature texts was critiziced by Truffaut in th 50s, but it continues. You can see the filmography of Gerard Depardieu to see that.\nAbout the best cinema in the recent years, maybe the british one, with all the singular contributions from social cinema, Ken Loach, Mike Leigh, and now Stephen Daldry with Billy Elliot.\nThe ','5ddbf09d0c7d30c2413568f7890205fb',0,'','emP2Kgw7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1669,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1061849742,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dlbu','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','If you are a serious viewr ,please go through these movies--Cinema Paradiso/Bicycle thieves/Pather panchali/Seven Samurai/A short film about love; killing------Actually every country is making it\'s own good movies.We have to search & find them to experiance the feelings.','99b035032b2500ef7b4a5679af391399',0,'','idmxslZ1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1670,422,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071528849,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nikki-1','Re: What country has the best foreign films?','The question almost contradicts the reason people prefer foreigh films considering people who watch foreign films tend to be more open-minded and selective based on the content not the nationality of the actors. \n\nYou will find great foreign films from all points of the globe. \nChina: \nEat, Drink, Man, Woman\nRaise the red lantern\n\nFrance:\nSavage Nights\nHumanite\nDelicatessen\n\nPerhaps, a better response will be received if you ask about the film subject. Ex: Martial Arts - don\'t look in Africa coz we don\'t make those. :)\nDrug Abuse - Trainspotting, Requiem for a dream\n\n','60262f35cabb3f8fe789ceaea0343636',0,'','sG5US0JN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1671,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036403408,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I hope I won\'t be drawn and quartered for asking this question, but here goes:  What are your 10 favorite American films?  Exclude obvious ones like The Godfather, Braveheart, and others  that are on everybody\'s list.\n\nHere\'s mine (not in any order):\nScarface\n(Tony Montana is the ultimate badass)\nSLC Punk\n(You need to see this film)\nThe Fight Club\n(Appeals to my male aggression.  Great for thinkers and people who just love watching savage beatings)\nAmerican History X\n(You have to see Ed Norton in other movies to realize how amazing his performance in this one is)\nThe Breakfast Club\n(No other movie captures high school so perfectly)\nDogma\n(Funniest movie I\'ve ever seen)\nA Streetcar Named Desire\n(Classic)\nTaxi Driver \n(Robert De Niro is a deity)\nReservoir Dogs \n(much better than Pulp Fiction)\nRoad to Perdition\n(This is the most beautifully filmed movie I have ever seen.  Sam Mendes is a genius.  If you don\'t agree, you are a foreign film snob, and someone should make you bite the curb)','ee5335ac626b2e6a107c1f0c1eb3e3e7',0,'','bqSXnGhz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1672,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036422186,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I haven\'t seen this topic on here before, and it seems a worthy subject of discussion.  So, here goes.  (Note that I\'m not going to keep anything off my list since it might show up on everyone else\'s.)\n\nGreed\nSunrise\nScarface (Hawks)\nThe Shop around the Corner\nThe Magnificent Ambersons\nScarlet Street\nMonsieur Verdoux\nThe Night of the Hunter\n2001 (Is it really American?  Close enough, I say.)\nMartin (Romero)\n\nThat\'s just dashed off in the heat of the moment.  I\'ll think about this more and come back later, perhaps adding a few runners-up.','b0e7b218088156335035a93099337ad3',0,'','1HYaieTo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1673,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036463230,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','In random order:\n\nAll about eve.\nCitizen Kane.\nThe manchurian candidate.\nBliss.\nSchindler\'s list.\n\nRear Window.\nMulholland drive.\nYou can count on me.\nFrom here to eternity.\nWhat ever happend to baby jane.\nThe straight story.\n\n\n\n\n','b8fc94f40d99760e2085ad485d64910c',0,'','VZDqwd4e',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1674,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036466507,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I warned you I\'d return to add on some runners-up, and return I have.  So here are ten more selections for you.\n\nBroken Blossoms\nSherlock Jr.\nFury\nMiracle of Morgan\'s Creek\nForce of Evil\nFort Apache\nVertigo\nPoint Blank\nBarry Lyndon\nMikey and Nicky\n\nAnd yet a few more that didn\'t quite make the second ten:  Queen Kelly, Christmas in July, The Great Dictator, Park Row, Paths of Glory, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, Dawn of the Dead','4540e1bf7796eb49bd9f90de5e23ec62',0,'','60U5iAGf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1675,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036505406,1,0,1,1,1,1,'winstonwes','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I\'d like to have seen Requiem for a Dream on some of those lists? Have you seen it? It\'s incredible!!','cac8f9756dc745344adcf722880ccb77',0,'','pFAZx6jN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1676,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036524719,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','My Favourites (not necessarily \"bests\", but films I watch again and again):\n\n1/  CITIZEN KANE (The best ever, but SO MUCH FUN!  \"There is a man/One certain man/And for the poor/you can be sure/he\'ll do all he can...\"  I\'m listening to it now, at the video store I manage)\n2/  MY DINNER WITH ANDRE (because it changed my life)\n3/  BRINGING UP BABY (pure anarchic insanity.  The funniest film I have ever seen...again and again and again...)\n4/  DUCK SOUP (for the same reason as #2, it\'s just NOT as good)\n5/  MACCABE AND MRS MILLER (A film so beautiful its imagery can actually make me weep!  That zoom into Beatty\'s face when the slow witted hooker says, \"I have to go to the pot\", is pure poetry.  The best American film of the \'70\'s as well as the most humane)\n6/  A NEW LEAF (Elaine May is a genius and although I like \"Mikey And Nicky\", this film floors me every time)\n8/  LOLITA (not Kubrick\'s \"best\", but hysterically funny and extremely intelligent.  Shelly Winters rocks my world!)\n9/  NEXT STOP WONDERLAND (Brad Anderson\'s 1998 film was a film that I watched with zero expectations, but was truly bowled over by it.  A \"minor\" miracle)\n10/  THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (Everyone was firing on all cylinders in this one, none more so than Cukor, a good director, who cexecuted a great film)','c8a0fb14d0b49dab051fd6cbd66f5149',0,'','uVet41ad',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1677,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036526468,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I\'d just like to chime in here and point out that I agree with you about at least one thing:  A New Leaf is fabulous.  (Bringing up Baby is brilliant as well, but I doubt I really need to chime in and point that out to anyone.)','0d9f58e8035610037e688a4bb9aa266a',0,'','21PwHbrl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1678,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036534206,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Thanx!\n\nI was going to point out your choice of FURY.  It\'s my favourite Lang film of his \"American Period\".  I couldn\'t believe he was THAT political that early in his American career!  I thought he\'d wait a while before taking on lynch mobs!!!','0e1c4b00274e35baec6de8eb85609916',0,'','SWsyP2d9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1679,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036535286,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Yeah, I have a hard time choosing between Fury and Scarlet Street.  For a long while, I would have said Fury, but I\'ve slowly been coming around to Scarlet Street.  I doubt there\'s much of a reason behind it.\n\nPart of what I find so interesting about Fury is its relation to M.  I think Fury can be read very interestingly as a sort of response to M, although I\'ve never really thought this out.  They both concern issues of the individual\'s relation to the wider society, with M focusing on the society and Fury on the individual.  In M the serial killer remains a sort of abstraction until the end of the film, and we focus on the way the society conducts itself in a panicked attempt to remove the source of evil within.  In Fury the wider society remains a sort of threatening abstraction until the end of the film, and we focus on how the individual responds to the crushing power that wider society can wield.  Anyway, you see where this is going:  there\'s a sort of dialectical relationship between the two films, and it makes them richer than they\'d be in isolation.','1f375b3349ed5614da466481310a2ec8',0,'','baBzKsLe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1680,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036633908,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bjornam','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Lost Highway or Mullholand Dr.\nApocalypse Now.\nDouble Indemnity.\nPaths of Glory (american, no?)\nDown By Law.\nAnything by Welles, not Citizen Kane (boring).\nRaging Bull or Taxi Driver.\nVertigo or Psycho.\nManhattan (maybe).\nCity Lights.\nDeer Hunter.\nSunset Boulevard.\n','f0abb323ca7d097e580a8be0049d22dd',0,'','9Rhb5NAd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1681,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036642296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Curt, I\'m glad you said \'10 favorite American films\' and not \'10 greatest American films\' because personally I don\'t think anything Hollywood has put out in the last 35 years should even sniff 10 greatest, especially anything with Brad Pitt(Fight Club), and I\'m only 34, but I digress.  My 10 favorite, in no particular order:\n1. Night of the Hunter\n2. Rebecca\n3. Frankenstein\n4. Brute Force\n5. White Heat\n6. Sunrise\n7. Elmer Gantry\n8. Sahara\n9. Shane\n10. The Great Escape','58169ff8a9d43b93b4e5ea97ead200a9',0,'','Gg0831Qr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1682,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036643562,1,0,1,1,1,1,'chris','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','This is a great question although quite impossible to answer judging by the quick number of responses.I love that \"Magnificent Ambersons\" is on a list.The finished product was chopped up by the studios and you can only imagine what the finished product would be like if Welles had total control. ','00fe402666d409d7cb0a274adde553f4',0,'','n9qxmQ0U',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1683,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036729905,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Here are mine and they are not in order.\n\nGone with the Wind\nGoodfellas \nSome Like it Hot\nThe Godfather\nAll About Eve\nMildred Pierce\nThe Insider\nCitizen Kane\nQuills\nNight on Earth \n','c35f5905e793716b41f76b7565d7d066',0,'','hqowF9PG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1684,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036748572,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Hey Patsfan, what\'s wrong with Brad Pitt?  I think he\'s an excellent actor.  I\'ve liked almost every movie I\'ve seen with him in it from Fight Club, to Seven Years in Tibet, to The Devil\'s Own.  ','67ceaea950e0a0705def5e4e26402453',0,'','jVpFEfKi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1685,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036806870,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','You\'ve got to be kidding me!  If you are a 17 year old girl I think I can understand, but please.','7988391e4212c0d931d5e7c1d70fc745',0,'','nY6o4z5h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1686,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036825495,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I must be a seventeen year old girl then, because I like Brad Pitt.  I guarantee that if you saw a Brad Pitt in a subtitled movie, you would agree that he was a good actor.  I\'m not saying he\'s the best actor, some of his American contemporaries are better (Ed Norton), but he is good.','7cedeec7502453b56c76c190993049f6',0,'','cYMyxHLP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1687,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036828112,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I just don\'t see it dude, and I don\'t think it would make any difference if he was speaking French or Italian.  No offense though, to each his own.','36edec422bd09ebe52ed7650a608fd5a',0,'','bTqhrZRx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1688,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036851650,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','To chris:\n\nI\'m happy soemone mentioned AMBERSONS too!  It\'s one of my favourites, but not one of the best films of all time (what a butchering!).  I find that this is a film that helps me decide whether I can trust a critic who makes a list \"10 BEST\" films.  If they do not mention any Welles films, I think I can trust them.  If they do not mention AMBERSONS or KANE, but choose TOUCH or CHIMES instead, I think I can trust them.  But, if they choose AMBERSONS and don\'t metion KANE also on their list, I am highly suspicious.  Have they really seen these movies?  Do they really watch the whole film or do they do what I do...skip the last scene altogether and go on to the credits.  That last, studio enforced scene, where everyone is happy, is hysterically fun and worse than the ending of A.I. (another film I admire, but think is majorally flawed).  Any critic who chooses AMBERSONS over KANE is trying to prove something and is not truly, objectively evaluating Welles\' work.','fde56074bc5e37609a4f8e37e7932c06',0,'','GRKrqhfp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1689,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036891504,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Ouch, was I just called out for choosing The Magnificent Ambersons over Citizen Kane?  Were my critical faculties just impugned in front of all?  Are things going to have to come to fisticuffs?  Ok, it\'s probably not all that serious, and I can pretty much guarantee that I\'d be bound to lose any fight over such things (or anything else for that matter), so I\'ll try my best to remain civil after being so shabbily treated.  I will mount something of a defense on my own behalf.  (Note that I won\'t do so by tearing down Citizen Kane, which would be silly.  It\'s a fabulous film--formally and thematically brilliant, and pretty darn fun to boot--and I have no desire to boost The Magnificent Ambersons by knocking it off its pedestal.)  \n\nFirst, I\'ll admit that I\'m not thoroughly objective and that I have a bit of an agenda.  But so what?  What fun would this be if we weren\'t being subjective and didn\'t have a bit of an agenda?  Now, I\'m not some rank subjectivist about aesthetic judgments.  There\'s a place for objectivity in criticism, but there\'s also a place fog good old-fashioned taste.    \n\nSecond, here\'s what I think about the ending of The Magnificent Ambersons.  There\'s no question:  it\'s a hack job.  But I\'m not all that moved by this, as I don\'t think the movie as it\'s come down from those money-grubbing RKO butchers is somehow sacrosanct.  I don\'t see why we shouldn\'t just pass over this inanity after having heard our narration about poor Georgie Minafer and his comeuppance.  Really, would it be some grievous sin if all extant copies of the film were confiscated and those worthless frames forever excised?  Would this be a violation of anyone\'s vision?  As far as I can see, the only vision behind this scene was RKO\'s vision of oodles of cash, and I doubt that Turner or whoever owns the rights now would lose one red cent from committing that ending to the trash heaps of history.  So for the sake of all that is good and holy, I wish they\'d do it.  (Plus, if you absolutely must watch the ending, it seems perfectly fine to take it as further demonstration of Welles\' genius.  As far as I\'m concerned, the juxtaposition of the great and the mediocre simply looks the great look that much greater.)\n\nThird, the real worry is the editing.  Once the film\'s been cut up and thrown back together like this, who knows what we\'re missing.  I guess this has some force, but again, I\'m unconvinced that this is some insuperable difficulty.  I mean, we\'ve got the same problem with von Stroheim\'s films, right?  But I don\'t think it\'s a huge problem there.  You have to look at what you\'ve got in front of you and go from there.  I like what I see.  I don\'t know what else to tell you.\n\nFourth, I get the sense that people think that by treasuring something like Greed or The Magnificent Ambersons, you\'re really pining for what the film could have been--as if one carries some ideal image of what the first cut might have been like, and this is what one values rather than the work as we have it.  There might be some element of truth in this, but I get the feeling that the other side of the debate tends to do something similar:  they take it that the work as we have it is somehow debased because the first cut must have been so much greater.  I don\'t doubt that the first cut of both films was much greater than what we have, but that doesn\'t strike me as being a compelling reason to think that what we have is subpar.  \n\nSo there.  That\'s a defense of sorts.  ','12eb775640a859266c2f665cfe54d349',0,'','LSoQERpX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1690,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036902091,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','dear wvq:\n\nThe list I gave was my list of favourites.  It wasn\'t a list of bests (yes, I do make a distinction).  The only film that DOES appear on both of my lists is CITIZEN KANE.  None of the other films on the list I posted here are what I would call masterpieces.  They are films I watch again and again for because they make me feel good (they are FAVOURITES)  I said that I use the \"Magnificent Ambersons test\" (as I like to call it) as a test to see if CRITICS who compile \"Best of\" list are being objective or not.  I do not expect objectivity from \"lay persons\" who do not watch films for a living (although I do think more objectivity WOULD help to increase film literacy).  I did not know you were a professional critic (what paper or magazine do you write for?), so I am sorry if I offended you!  Please accept my apology.','a6eb1be40db7aad606973cff00ef2b0f',0,'','fn8UPAYX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1691,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036903774,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','AND ANOTHER THING...(just joking)\n\nI think MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS is HALF of the most exquisitely photographed b/w film in the history of American films.\n\nI don\'t know if you\'ve seen it, but the CRITERION COLLECTION laserdisc was exquisite!  They include a card that told you what frame of the film to freeze on and how to adjust your television in order to see the film the way it SHOULD be seen (I never did it, but you\'ve got to love that kind of attention to detail).  I\'ve kept the laserdisc despite the fact that my player is broken, because I cherish it (as I cherish all of Welles\' films...yes...even THE STRANGER).  Keep your fingers crossed!  If CRITERION releases it on DVD you\'ll also get:\n\n-All the storyboards\n-The complete MERCURY THEATRE OF THE AIR radio adaptation of the same story.\n-A dry, but informative audio commentary by THE lead authority on THIS film Robert Carringer (author of THE COMPLETE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS, a book I adore and recommend to all!)\n-A clip (the only extant footage) from a silent film version of Tarkington\'s novel\n\nand MUCH MORE...','2c64124c10e489d9bfa49cdfa0854df6',0,'','ba7uAD5d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1692,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036905176,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Please don\'t kill me for saying this.  I saw Citizen Kane and thought it was one of the least entertaining movies I\'ve ever seen.  It was extremely well-made, but I did not enjoy it at all.  I haven\'t seen any of Welles\'s other films, but I hope they are better than Citizen.  I understand that the movie is an artistic movie, but so are Kurosawa\'s films, and they are fun to watch.  Before you think I\'m some kind of retarded person, I understood the message of Citizen Kane, it just failed to move me.  I don\'t want anybody to think I\'m pulling the old contrarion critic here to make you think I\'m intelligent.  I seriously thought this movie was one of the most boring movies of all time.  ','4e0ddd24dbdbe2e69ebe67a5b761d459',0,'','GMyqgBN1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1693,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036905911,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Oh, I\'m not a professional critic, and I was just messing around.  I was bored, and it\'s always fun to respond to an imagined offense.  I\'m always waiting for these discussions to lead to mud-slinging and personal insults, but everyone is so darn nice.  It\'s sickening really.\n\nConcerning the issue of objectivity and its role in professional criticism.  To be honest, I\'m fairly skeptical about most professional criticism (at least as it\'s usually practiced here in the States).  Now, don\'t get me wrong:  there are some very good critics out there.  However, I\'m not really inclined to trust the vast majority of critics much more than anyone else, and I certainly don\'t expect a great deal of objectivity on their part.  Hell, most of the reviews one finds in the mainstream press are little more than plot synopses followed the author\'s personal opinion about whether the two-hour experience is worth your $7-$10.  You\'d be hard-pressed to find a critic who seems to know the first thing about film form or who is willing to relate films to anything that more than a year or two beforehand.  \n\nThis, I suppose, is why I tend to rely on the tastes of certain nonprofessionals who self-publish on the internet.  First, they don\'t have editors forcing them to dumb-down their work for the hoi polloi.  Second, they\'re genuinely enthusiastic about the things they review.  Third, and finally, they aren\'t restricted to talking about whatever is making the rounds at the multiplex.  \n\nConcerning the issue of best films vs. favorites.  I certainly see what you mean, although I think my lists would overlap each other more than yours do.  Of course, that\'s simply because I have better taste than you do.  (Well, either that or I\'m terribly pretentious.  I mean, isn\'t it just obvious that my aesthetic faculties are so well-tuned that I\'ll immediately and passionately love anything that is great and, moreover, that I\'ll be sure to love things to an extent proportional to their greatness?  How could it possibly be otherwise?)  ','21816777c7347eaa0d395fd4852e47d8',0,'','jdmxkH8X',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1694,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036932126,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','At last Curt, someone who agrees with me about Citizen Kane. Whether or not it\'s a masterpiece, it completely failed to move me and I was frankly pleased when at last it ended. Sorry, I can\'t help my feelings, though I\'m sure I\'ve lost any respect anyone had for me now.','d2d69bceb333d7433c6deaa0668b37d8',0,'','NjJ3TXb5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1695,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036944266,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Dear curt:\n\nMay I ask \"Why?\".  \n\nWhy did the film NOT move you?  Better yet...Why do you think Welles failed to engaged you with this film?  Is it actually a fault of the film\'s execution or is it the fact that your expectations were SO HIGH because you read somewhere that the film was \"The Greatest Of All Time\" that you had expectations that NO FILM could possibly fulfill?\n\nI\'m not asking this to be a smartass.  I\'m really interested in what you have to say.\n\nRespectfully,\nDEREK\n','45ecdbdbe260f780bfa926e4004bda68',0,'','P3U4WJuK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1696,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036955038,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','wvq:\n\n\"Concerning the issue of best films vs. favorites. I certainly see what you mean, although I think my lists would overlap each other more than yours do.\"\n\nActually, you\'re probably right.  The fact is that once you get past the top 3 choices on both of my lists (KANE, RULES OF THE GAME & THE LIFE AND DEATH OF COLONEL BLIMP), my list DO NOT look anything alike.  \n\nI think...no...I KNOW why this is the case.  I decided a long time ago (and I\'m ONLY 36) that people don\'t take film \"seriously\".  I don\'t mean that they don\'t seriously LOVE film, but they do not hold it in the same high regard as other art forms.  I made the suggestion on another site that, in a way, I think a lot of film lovers don\'t even RESPECT the artform.  I gave the example of of the two buddha statues that the Taliban government in Afghanistan blew up.  For weeks we watched as they chipped away at, and, then, finally blew them up.  Most people in the so called \"civilised\" world looked on in horror.  It didn\'t matter what religion you were...you just knew it was WRONG!  I suggested to the posters on the message board of that site that I doubt anyone would \"bat an eye\" if the negative for PORKY\'S was blown up.  Some might say that it was sad.  Others might say GOOD, it\'s a piece of cr_p!  But I doubt that the vast majority of people would really care.  I\'D CARE!  I do not like the film, but I think the destruction of any work of art (regardless of its quality) is sad.\n\nOne of my favourite line in Renoir\'s GRAND ILLUSION is one of the simplest.  It happens just after the Russian soldiers find out that the Czarina hasn\'t sent them a \"care package\" of vodka.  The Czarina\'s dead (they don\'t know this) and the new Bolshevik government has sent them BOOKS.  The Russian are so upset they light the books on fire.  The French scholar who is imprisoned with them says, very quietly because he is horrified, \"You don\'t burn books.\"\n\nI guess what I\'m getting at is that it is time we (those who love film), get away from questions about whether or not we \"like\" or \"dislike\" a film.  perhaps, we should move onto the question of how we are going to elevate the artform so that it is held in the same regard as literature, painting, sculpture, music and architecture.  Most of us can make distinctions in other artforms.  I\'ll give an example:\n\nIf you set in front of a person a painting of \"Dogs playing poker\", a 25000 year old cave painting and the MONA LISA, most could evaluate their \"worth\".  The \"Dogs playing poker\" painting can fill us with happiness (Homer Simpson:  \"They\'re dogs...And...They\'re playing poker...Ah Hah Hah Hah Hah!\"), but very few would consider it \"great art\".  The cave painting can fill us with happiness too, but I think it is a happiness that comes from the thought, \"This is who we are...this is what we were able to do, even, \'back then\'!\".  Most people, I would hope, would also be able to realise that the painting, while no masterpiece, is more worthy and, perhaps,\"better\" than the dog painting.  But when you get to the MONA LISA, I think, you are entering a different sphere.  It is the type of painting that actually elevates the human race.  We can look at it and say, \"Yes...This is what WE are capable of!\"\n\nI could give hundreds of examples where we make these types of distinctions all the time, in ALL the arts except...film.  Film, because it was the first artform designed and aimed at a \"mass market\" has always been an artform that people feel should be evaluated based solely on whether they liked it or not.  I don\'t think that that is \"good enough\" any more.  Unless we all (those that love film) start taking film \"more seriously\", I\'m afraid that the artform won\'t survive.  It will be pushed aside, to make way for the next artform that JUST appeals to a person\'s need for entertainment or pleasure.  \n\nIf I make the distinctions I do in my BESTS and FAVOURITES lists, it is because I feel that this is my small way of elevating the \"art of film\".   I manage a specialty video store that deals only in the type of product that this site has been designed to showcase and I make my decisions on what to add to our rental collection based on what I think is worthy of inclusion.  I would much rather add a DVD of Lumiere Brother shorts from 1896 to my collection than the latest monstrosity from Hollywood.  Why?  Because, although I know I can make more money from something like THE SUM OF ALL FEARS, I know that it is the Lumiere Brothers short that people WILL be watching ten years from now...the jury is still out over whether THE SUM OF ALL FEARS will have that sort of staying power.  ','e11bbeedc311df401ffd545c7f0d3178',0,'','iBFaRexl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1697,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036998135,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Excellent post.  For the record, I wish we had a rental store like yours here in Knoxville Tennessee.','961ed77c70acfde7e41dece747aeadac',0,'','ZaAiMSKE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1698,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037004705,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I\'m sure that some of my disappointment in Citizen Kane came from the fact that I sat down thinking \"This is the greatest movie of all time.\"  But, honestly, I don\'t think that is why I was disappointed.  I am 100% sure that if I had never heard anything about that movie before watching it, I would still feel that it was an incredibly boring film.  It just lacked any entertainment value at all.  I know that Kane was not designed solely with the intention to entertain people, Welles had a message that he wanted to send.  However, there are plenty of other \"message\" films that are great.  A Streetcar Named Desire, and even The Wizard of Oz had very powerful messages, and they were delivered in an entertaining way.  I don\'t know if anything I\'m saying is making sense.  I guess I\'m just saying that movies should be fun to watch.  Whether you think film is art or just entertainment, you watch movies for one reason:  to be entertained.  In this aspect, Citizen Kane failed as a movie for me.\n\nOh, by the way, Sum of All Fears was the only movie I have ever fallen asleep while watching.  Aren\'t thrillers supposed to be...um...thrilling?','63e855bdfc64f28ccb5aecea738b9bea',0,'','DTu1c2Zh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1699,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037008453,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','What\'s up Curt?  I have to disagree with you on a few things.  You stated in your previous post that movies should be fun to watch.  I can take that as an opinion statement, as in your opinion.  When I watched the South Park movie with several male friends over many cold beers I set out to watch a fun movie.  But when I watched Citizen Kane for the first time, or any of the other few times I\'ve seen it, I never expected it to be fun.  I expected it to be a serious film and I took it as such, which I\'m sure you attempted to do to.  You said Citizen Kane didn\'t entertain you, so be it.  I guess entertainment is like beauty, it\'s in the eye of the beholder.  I wouldn\'t rank CK as my no.1 but I certainly enjoyed it.  Conversely, you listed Scarface at the top of your list and I got very little if any entertainment from it.  But one of the last things you said about the reason we all watch films is to be entertained.  That is not true at all and I\'ll give you an example.  Keep in mind I am only speaking for myself and am not trying to make some sort of blanket statement for a segment of other film fans.  I was a History major in college, so when I watched say, Leni Riefenstahl\'s \'Triumph of the Will\', not for school, years later, I watched for the express purpose of learning and not to be entertained.  I in fact love documentaries.  In the end when they are over if they were done well, you were both educated and entertained, but I often go into a film looking to get something other than entertainment out of it.  You mentioned that you like Japanese cinema.  There are a few Japanese films that if you didn\'t like Citizen Kane, I\'m sure you probably wouldn\'t like these either, but the message you will take away from them will stay with you for life.  If you can find a copy, and want to try and sit thru it(again, apparantly it won\'t be to your liking), watch Ozu\'s Tokyo Story.  If you can watch that movie and come away with nothing then you my friend are a true man of stone.','95cbc53394f203ae9fac4c4e384232be',0,'','Zw4G8rRj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1700,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037008787,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','One more thing Curt, this topic and the one for the best country for foreign films have drawn alot of attention.  Maybe you have a gift.  Come up with some more for us.  How \'bout it?','b4996e26f53b4d8eddf6a08e2aad12fa',0,'','QwpgkzS6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1701,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037055846,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','hey curt:\n\nI don\'t know if this is REALLY the case, But I think that the message in CITIZEN KANE may be the reason why so many people from all over the world find it great.  Going beyond its technical brilliance (something I take from what you wrote, you don\'t deny), I think the questions the film raises are...shall we say...universal!\n\nHow would you like to be remembered when you\'re gone?  If you died tomorrow, would you like to be remembered as the person who defended Brad Pitt on www.foreignfilms.com? (I like him by the way, when he works with directors who know how to use him...Fincher and Gilliam in particular) I\'m sure some of us on this board would define you by that ONE SMALL fact.  But I think they would be wrong. You\'re more than that one little thing.  If you died with the word s__t as the last thing you said, would that define you?  KANE asks a simple question...can we ever truly KNOW someone?  I think the reason why people love and identify with the film is because they also do not want to be remembered for what they are perceived to be, but for who they are.  The sad thing is, that will never happen, because we all project our own prejudices and neuroses onto the people (and films?) that we encounter.  Our perception of the person (or film?) will always be faulty because most of us cannot see beyond the ends of our noses.  John Waters once said that when he dies he knows that the first thing that will be mentioned in his obituaries will be the fact that he got the late, great female impersonator Divine to actually eat real dog s__t on camera.  I think that\'s right...and it\'s sad.  He\'s so much more than his film PINK FLAMINGOS.\n\nI\'ve watched KANE at least 20 times from start to finish.  I\'ve probably listened to it over 100 times in my video store.  Every time I see it, I see or hear new things that make me think of the \"theme\" I talked about (I can\'t believe how many \"clues\" are sprinkled throughout this film).  Maybe I\'m weird that way, but I enjoy spotting new things in this film.  I guess it\'s like that for people who like to spot all the little subversive \"flashes\" sprinkled throughout FIGHT CLUB.  Actually...I think I\'m gonna check out FIGHT CLUB again tonight.  I was gonna watch an old George Stevens film tonight, but I need some of that \"male aggression\" you talked about in your review above.\n\nAnyway...thanks for your comments on KANE.  I hope you\'ll check it out again some day!\n\nDEREK','4f94decf0ff6163f625ae02b0ef62e80',0,'','ezaZ4kjA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1702,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037088064,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Man, I really hope I don\'t come off as an arguementative jerk when I say this, but I\'m just trying to express my opinion and provoke thought.\n\nPatsfan, you said that you often watched movies for the purpose of learning.  I do this too.  I completely agree with the idea that some people watch films just to be educated.  But, the reason that they want to be educated is that for them (including myself) learning is very fun.  Adding to your intellectual reservoir is always entertaining.  So even if you watch the film to be educated, you are still being indirectly entertained by the film.  Example: I watch A&E\'s Biography series whenever I get the chance. I don\'t sit down and say \"Boy this biographer on steel baron Andrew Carnegie sure is a blast!  I\'ve been sitting on the edge of my seat since he was a stock clerk!  \" But I will say that it is an enriching, interesting show.  Because it posseses these qualities, it is entertaining to me.  Perhaps we just have different definitions of \"entertainment.\"\n\nAdmin2/Derek \nYou have convinced me to give the film another try.  I remember the one scene where Kane and his wife are eating breakfast and they show them aging when they move from a shot of Welles\'s face to that of the actress protraying his wife.  That was an amazing scene.  I\'m glad you will watch Fight Club again, and agree with your comments on Pitt being impressive when directed by Fincher or Gilliam.  Seven was another great movie.','766bacec9f1f223de3d1dd367c739cf0',0,'','jto5e0u2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1703,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037125674,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Hey curt:\n\nI haven\'t been quite that honest with you.  I will try to change that now.\n\nWhen I read your original post on KANE, I was really upset that it was the first Welles film you saw.  The truth of the matter is, whenever someone comes into my video store and says something like, \"I\'ve heard I should check out Orson Welles\' films...What do you suggest?\",  I never suggest KANE.  I always suggest TOUCH OF EVIL, THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI or even THE STRANGER first.  Not because I think they are \"better\" films, but because they are solid \"entertainments\" that don\'t quite have the reputation KANE does.  If these \"newbies\" like those films, then I\'ll suggest KANE and MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS.  If they don\'t like them...well...the truth is.. I tried...But, I won\'t lose any sleep.\n\nI have also been less than forthcoming regarding why I think KANE is the greatest.  The real reason is that I think the film is perfect!  What I mean is...for the life of me...I\'ve tried to find something wrong with the film.  Questions of whether it is \"boring\" or not don\'t enter into my evaluation on this point.  Some of my favourite films of all time are deeply flawed.  BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY\'S is a great, fun film, but I cringe every time Mickey Rooney\'s racist streotype comes on the screen.  THE GODFATHER is a lot of fun, but there are scenes in the movie that I don\'t necessarily think are important to telling the story.  I get a kick out of the scene where Jimmy Caan is bangin\' the wedding guset against the door, but if it was gone, it wouldn\'t LOWER my appreciation of the film (and they do usually cut THAT scene out on regular t.v. broadcasts).  I can\'t say that about KANE.  I\'ve tried my damnedest to find ONE thing in it that isn\'t needed to tell the story.  I used to think it was the cockatiel.  I don\'t know if you remember it, but when the film goes into the butler\'s flashback, all of a sudden, a bird squawks very loudly!  I thought, \"What the hell was that all about?\".  Is that the flaw I\'ve been looking for?  Then I read an interview with Welles where he said the reason he did it was, I\'m paraphrasing, \"The movie is two hours long!  I realised that some people may have fallen asleep.  I put that there to wake them up so they will see the ending!\"...I have yet to find anything to replace that damn cockatiel and I have studied the film to death!  Maybe next time you check it out you can spot something.\n\nI didn\'t get a chance to watch FIGHT CLUB again last night.  My roommate, who hates violent movies was watching a women\'s hockey game (it\'s her t.v. so I have to sometimes put up with that kind of stuff).  For the record, women\'s hockey is becoming just as violent as men\'s.  I\'m going to the premiere of a short film one of my staff made called, \"THE BUSINESS OF SUICIDE\" tonight and I plan to get very drunk (I have a suspicion I\'ll need to), so I think I\'ll wait until Thursday to give Fincher\'s flick another go (I\'ll need the time to recover from tonight, I\'m sure!). \n\nRespectfully yours, \nDEREK\n\nP.S.  You mentioned SE7EN.  I\'m allowed one DVD (to add to my collection) as a bonus each week for managing my store (the owner barely pays me enough to survive!).  SE7EN sits on my DVD shelf at home alongside SINGIN\' IN THE RAIN and THE SEVEN SAMURAI.  They\'re all great films and a hell of a lot of fun! ','94231c23284b9998b916c6a09863ac64',0,'','Zx1VD4MG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1704,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037137082,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Great points Curt.  And I agree, in fact I had said in one of the earlier posts that if done well they will both inform and entertain me.  I guess with me it\'s just a matter of making things black and white or prioritizing them.  When I go into a film/documentary and the reason I am wanting to see it is for educational purposes, then that is the way I concentrate on keeping it while I\'m watching it.  Afterwards, when I have time to reflect on what I\'ve seen I can go back at a later time and watch it a second time for nothing but enjoyment if I want.  But more times than not, I try to keep the two seperate.  That\'s just the way I\'ve always done it.','9343649d6353177824dcf3ae5e4537c1',0,'','bohCdYzS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1705,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037326701,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','on CITIZEN KANE ROBERT MCKEE gives a great & provocative critique in the J\'ACCUSE series.most interesting as he expounds a 4th theory as opposed to the accepted 3 theories on the meaning of ROSEBUD etc.he calls it \"THE BAD WRITING THEORY\" a persuasive argument as he tears kane apart!\nall style no substance? well i still love it but it is not above criticism of course. cheers','be0ef805eb67e434def896dc6d8c1e7c',0,'','BNWaAx2H',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1706,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037345125,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','The cockatiel anecdote has entered into my store of dinner table conversation.  Thanks to admin-2.  Good posts on Kane and Pitt.  Good to see the give and take on this board.','a1b6bc152d1156ca3b0a9522d8d7cc35',0,'','pSWofkyT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1707,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037379995,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Gosh, I seem to have missed the boat in recent times. I have nothing of interest to add to the Kane/Ambersons discussion since I admire Touch of Evil more than either (although one reason why is the function of Quinlan\'s cane, which obviously requires some knowledge of Kane to appreciate!). My ten is just *a* ten, and not necessarily a top ten because I have no idea how to justify to myself what constitutes \"top\" (re-watchability perhaps, but I\'m not so sure that is an entirely valid reason). Here goes (chronological order, excluding umpteen no-brainers):\n\nIt\'s a Gift\nThe Major and the Minor\nGilda\nForce of Evil\nUnfaithfully Yours\nSweet Smell of Success\nRio Bravo\nDay of the Dead\nShowgirls\nBowfinger\n\nI\'m all for some mud-slinging re: the above!\n','c3a8c1e7435116df3d95b3cb4e26117f',0,'','oUATzXu0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1708,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037385985,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','DAY OF THE DEAD?!!  Why you...You...You had DAWN OF THE DEAD and MARTIN to choose from and you went with...\n\nGREAT LIST!\n\nQuinlan\'s cane? (Guffaw!  Guffaw!  Guffaw!  Perfect!)','f546881577a1a956a7939104b99b726b',0,'','i3DzHJoK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1709,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037948126,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','ordinary people\nShakespeare in love\ndeer hunter\nIt\'s a wonderful life\none flew over the cookoos nest\nChocolate \nsent of a woman\nroger and me \nmoment\nShindler\'s List (spelling)','db5afaced21a7d6d61427fa9e5bbb9a2',0,'','Tn16JLfG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1710,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037948685,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','ordinary people\nShakespeare in love\ndeer hunter\nIt\'s a wonderful life\none flew over the cookoos nest\nChocolate \nsent of a woman\nroger and me \nmoment\nShindler\'s List (spelling)','db5afaced21a7d6d61427fa9e5bbb9a2',0,'','Bsc9JfdS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1711,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037994496,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Tigerlily707','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Shawshank Redemption\n\nThe Anniversary Party\n\nBasquiat\n\nSidewalks of New York\n\nHusbands and Wives\n\nBig Night\n\nSense and Sensibility\n\nMindwalk\n\nSmoke\n\nDogfight\n\n\n\n','232712a91cee73afeb6d57be2e546022',0,'','xFimywfo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1712,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041058592,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Despite the many people who have already contributed, I can\'t help myself.  Since you said exclude the obvious, that may mean that the Godfather, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, and Lawrence of Arabia are out.  I also don\'t think anyone would appreciate Star Wars in this crowd.  So here goes, somewhat personal, but excuse me if I pick a popular film.\n1. All Quiet on the Western Front\n2. 2001:  A Space Odyssey\n3. Pulp Fiction\n4. Apocalypse Now\n5. Ordinary People\n6. The Shining \n7. Schindler\'s List\n8. Days of Wine and Roses\n9. Dances With Wolves\n10. Singin in the Rain\nThere are many excluded, but thats a start.  Just for the record Kane is the greatest ever.','fccfd1d596be88437ebdd3abfcaa9c2d',0,'','blSPa9qJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1713,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041092190,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Anyone ever watched Morrissey\'s Flesh?  I though Heat was the worst film ever made.','15123ff6df074f08090855698d390e0a',0,'','xirHoa3w',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1714,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041148039,1,0,1,1,1,1,'vibrantspring','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I have always had a special feeling for the movie, \"Lonely Are The Brave\". I think that, a hundred years from now, classes in movie making will use it as a prime example of the masterful blending of all of the necessary components and elements of a good movie.\nWhen Kirk Douglas named it as his most favorite of all the films he ever starred in, I nearly fell off my chair with joy and affirmation! Get a copy of this film and watch it on one of those special evenings that you can curl up with some hot chocolate and watch it with undivided attention. I get something new out of this movie every time I watch it. It has so many things going on at different levels at the same time. A truly masterful work embodying a timeless scenario that depicts how a small number of us stubbornly push to exact social change before it\'s time, and a small number of those who adamantly resist the inevitability of it! This leaves an ambivalent yet acquiescent majority somewhere in the middle.','f6b982b78741d5d12a15d5620bddf4b0',0,'','wLrkiu5l',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1715,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041929559,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Damn, everybody named all my favs already. I\'m surprised Hawks is so underrepresented though.\n\nTouch of Evil \nTrouble in Paradise\nThe General\nThe Searchers\nVertigo\nSome Like it Hot (yes, it\'s the funniest film ever made)\nThe Godfather II\nSingin\' in the Rain\nLawrence of Arabia\nRaging Bull (best film of the last two decades)','41a2d92b49721e7cafb22ec7a3e8f582',0,'','lovQKuc0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1716,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042373682,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','well, even thought i could not see many flick of top-rated lists i may list some \"great-flicks\" as far as i saw, yet it is not possible to enumerate them, i wrote in random order:\n---schindler\'s list\n---pi\n---a clockwork orange\n---the piano\n---fargo\n---amadeus\n---memento\n---saving private ryan\n---the fight club\nNote: but i m sure my top-list will change when i got the opportunity to rent dvds :)','9c083380ae7ccda35f4338fe2d47c2b5',0,'','N7Byn0TD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1717,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042395283,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tincanpally','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','I don\'t want to fan the fires AGAIN, but I saw The Magnificent Ambersons and didn\'t know that the ending was tacked on by the studio, and actually LIKED it. It was obvious that Anne Baxter was really in love with him (remember when she passed out in the soda shop? One of my favorite scenes of all time and she was brilliant, just watch her face) but being the super-observant/intelligent/whatever person she was knew she couldn\'t be with him because he was such a prick. And when he was finally broken-down, THEN it was possible. I took it to mean redemption and finding your true path was possible for ANYONE, not it being just a happy studio ending. THEN I find out everyone else thinks it\'s crap, and Welles had nothing to do with it! Is there a book or DVD of The Magnificent Ambersons out that explains the whole evolution and bastardization of the film? Or maybe I should go back and read Booth Tarkington\'s novel.\nAnd what about the A and E re-make that was supposedly faithful to Welles\' vision? (I missed it, though it is out on video). Is it worth checking out?\nI love this movie. I was a shocked to read everyone hated what I loved, but am keeping an open mind, and really want to know how Welles WANTED it to end, and what\'s up with the rest.','caa66c82a02629a5024d7f4492679623',0,'','Dzxru7lL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1718,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042415372,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','What a Great Question for a World Cinema Group\nHere are the Selections from London Jury\n\n1/Butt man\n2/Spiderman\n3/Cameraman\n4/Batman\n5/Scooby Dooooooooooooo\n6/Superman\n7/Disneyman\n8/cretinman\n9/Flash Gordonman\n10 Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn','151ad3b0a06acf6b78c99da6ed2f545d',0,'','bScpq8t5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1719,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044398895,1,0,1,1,1,1,'littlesam1','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Casablanca\nBringing Up Baby\nThe Lion In Winter\nMidnight Cowboy\nThe English Patient\nMr. Skeffington\nSouth Park Bigger Longer Uncut\n20,000 Leagues Under The Sea\nBridge On The River Kwai\nSerial Mom\n\nI know this is probably going to be the most bizarre list on this thread.  But I really love all of ten of these movies for many different and unusual reasons.  Not a list of great films, but ten films that mean something to me.\n\nLarry','ad970657503ad0d78a2040a1b7e06958',0,'','WzbfVP1S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1720,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044470611,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','There\'s something to be said for the attitude that the films which mean the most to you are the best films.\n\nI am a fan of some pretty awful films (not mentioned on my favourites list), but they have great sentimental value for me.\n\nBut it\'s more than my credibility\'s worth (if I have any) to name them.','2443124e0d6bbb45d3568bf4a8eaf7af',0,'','b7BUmvGd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1721,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045575707,1,0,1,1,1,1,'natrev','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Harold and Maude is one of the best American movies ever produced.\nIs it artistic content as profound and earnest as an Orson Welles film?Probably not but I always enjoy watching it.','87577b89fa54dc845b378d54824ba7a0',0,'','vmk00nZX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1722,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045590109,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Harold and Maude is a true classic and Hal Ashby one of the great directors.\n\nAnd...don\'t know if anyone\'s mentioned Sidney Lumet\'s 12 Angry Men yet, but it certainly deserves a mention.','f06904b63895294297a378a611ca0f21',0,'','Z0cMYlJW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1723,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045705414,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','in no particular order, Vertigo,Psycho,Duck Soup,The Wild Bunch,Sunrise,The Searchers,Treasure of the Sierra Madre,\nGreed,Detour,Godfather 2. ','953c9d1104409479b59fc11ed8e295a6',0,'','jcaFqT2X',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1724,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045706969,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Cookie-1','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','in no order:\nRomeo and Juliet (the new verson w/DiCapreo)\nWhats (or is it who\'s?) Eating Gilbert Grape\nDogma, Chasing Amy (pretty  much all Kevin Smith movies)\nCharlie Chaplin\'s 1am (i think thats the name)\nSnatch\nThe Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys\nLegends of the Fall\nSay Anything (i\'m in love with John Cusack)\nShakespeare in Love\nTwelth Night (the modern one)','38d72559c1af2dac444e328dd52f6c1c',0,'','VMpE5e4i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1725,423,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046159434,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: The Forbidden Topic (Enter at your own risk!)','Most of the American films I like were made in the 40s and 50s, filmed in black and white and were noirish.  The only recent film is by Jarmusch - and it\'s in Black and White.  My preference is for British & Australian films combined with the International Masters.\n\nAll About Eve\nCasablanca\nCitizen Kane\nDeser Fury\nLaura\nScarlett Street\nStranger Than Paradise\nThe Big Sleep\nThe Glass Key\nThe Maltese Falcon\n','78f9cde71e7ef620b170ca5c1e3cb7e7',0,'','UneTlr2j',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1726,424,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036543244,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Oscar contenders','Which foreign films should be nominated for this year\'s Oscar\'s?\nEvery year overrated films such as \"Life is Beautiful\"\n\"Crouching Tiger\" and \"Amelie\" have won the Oscar. Not that it matters to many of you, but what would be your 4 nominees?','36ab8f3b1c18a90afc3c367916b1a69a',0,'','6zMoYnBZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1727,424,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036633401,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bjornam','Re: Oscar contenders','Y Tu Mama Tamibien will win, probably. My choice is Godards In Praise of Love. But when I think of it, those were made last year, no? Russki Covcheg then. Or Ten. It\'s about time Iran wins this. I don\'t know wether they have won before, I\'m not that concerned with the Oscars.','5fc669eb01a31ed0bade669fd8d9a595',0,'','9SbRQ2e0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1728,424,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036951404,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Oscar contenders','Yes, an Iranian win is long overdue. Unfortunately, it seems most American Academy voters can\'t see beyond their own ludicrous political prejudices. Can\'t have a loony Arab state win now can we? And yes the Oscars are hardly a guarantee of quality; in fact more of mediocrity- the Foreign Film category choices (winners and nominees) have been, if anything, an even worse display of judgment than the general Best Film Oscars, which is saying something.\n\nBy the way, Amelie lost out to No Man\'s Land for best Foreign Film.','660e62eeca869096f0bc9161f6936239',0,'','8eqm6SUC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1729,424,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037124546,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Oscar contenders','Los Lunes al sol will be the spanish film compiting for the oscars this years has been anounced and has beaten \'Talk To Her\' (what a shame although I vote for Los Lunes Al Sol\') both are equally great in their own right.','92741fc07e3e7bf474be075a4a23b8d7',0,'','Cl1JeMz7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1730,424,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037380206,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Oscar contenders','Jia Zhangke\'s UNKNOWN PLEASURES or Park Kiyong\'s CAMEL(S).','1b4fc0d603ec18a00e1130076aabb101',0,'','BXlgQEqt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1731,425,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1036958801,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','TAVERNIER and ARMSTRONG...underrated?','I have been thinking about Bertrand Tavernier (France) and Gillian Armstrong (Australia) lately and I\'ve come to the conclusion that they are two of the most underrated, yet consistenly \"good\" film directors working today.  I don\'t think they make a lot of masterpieces, but they consistently make films that do not insult my intelligence.  I\'d hate to think that they would have to wait until after their deaths to be truly appreciated like some of the \"forgotten\" masters of the past (Budd Boetticher, Allan Dwann, Ida Lupino and Anthony Mann, for instance).\n\nMy questions are:\n\nDo you agree with this assessment?\n\nand\n\nWho would you suggest is also underrated?','f956ade5bbef35709a3b5134a7bb8053',0,'','5k7nWeuT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1732,425,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037381191,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: TAVERNIER and ARMSTRONG...underrated?','Tavernier, no (because formally uninteresting, although i do like CAPITAINE CONAN). Armstrong, no...but for no better reason than the one you suggested: okay films, nothing terrific. Perhaps Verhoeven, Breillat, Ruiz, Romero, and Kluge? And while I\'m feeling playful, how about Frank Oz? He\'s Yoda, he\'s made at least 2 good films, he\'s proven not to be full of Jim Henson\'s bollocks. :)','3b7cd449f583a947d159836535731617',0,'','k5vtPVND',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1733,425,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043822019,1,0,1,1,1,1,'highsierratrekker','Re: TAVERNIER and ARMSTRONG...underrated?','I too personally like Travernier a lot.  His earlier work is generally stronger, particularly the biting satire and great commentary of French colonialism in Africa, Clean Slate.  Two other good films are the Watchmaker of Toulouse (I think that\'s it) and a Week\'s Vacation; in the latter, Natalie Baye gives a fine performance of a teacher in crisis.  Among later work, two films stand out.  One is L627, the narco-epic; the other was a film released a couple of years ago, It all starts here about a kindergarten teacher working in a depressed factory town in eastern France.  To be sure, Travernier\'s work isn\'t innovative in technique and style, but it has a very good political edge to it.  TWo thumbs up!','e392381fe3a28420dd20ae539db6653c',0,'','l8oQuq5P',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1734,425,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047968627,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: TAVERNIER and ARMSTRONG...underrated?','Yes to Tavernier and Armstrong and a few more for consideration.\n\nTAVERNIER\nD&#8217;Artagnan&#8217;s Daughter \nIt All Starts Today \nLife and Nothing But \nRound Midnight \nSafe Conduct \nSunday in the Country\nThese Foolish Things \nUndeclared War, The \n\nTAVIANI\nElective Affinities \nGood Morning Babilonia \nMeadow, The \nNight of the Shooting Stars, The \nNight Sun \n\nFRANCESCO ROSI\nChrist Stopped at Eboli\nChronicle of a Death Foretold \nThree Brothers \n\nKAURISMAKI\nBohemian Life \nCrime and Punishment  \nDrifting Clouds \nHamlet Goes Business \nMan Without a Past, The \nMatch Factory Girl, The \nTake Care of Your Scarf, Tatjana \nAriel (1988) \nHamlet Liikemaailmassa (1987) \nI Hired a Contract Killer (1990) \nLeningrad Cowboys Go America (1989) \n \n\nGILLIAN ARMSTRONG\nCharlotte Gray (2001) \nOscar and Lucinda (1997) \nNot Fourteen Again (1996) \nLittle Women (1994) \nLast Days of Chez Nous, The (1992) \nFires Within (1991) \nBingo, Bridesmaids & Braces (1988) \n','aa129eab85a90ceae78c3ba1c00f0bb3',0,'','B9zGQvg6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1735,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037088923,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','I know we are supposed to be talking about film on these message boards, but I couldn\'t help but wonder what your opinions on a certain subject are.  I\'m relatively new to this site, but I can tell that there are some incredibly intelligent non-condescending people here, and I\'d like to hear what you have to say.  \n\nI\'m sure that every person here (including me) thinks of film as an art form.  But what about television?  Is television driven too much by commercialism to achieve the creative levels that film has reached?  Is it too focused on mass-market appeal?  \n\nI think that one of the reasons that television is not looked upon as art (at least not as much as movies, paintings, sculptures etc.) is the main thing that distinguishes it from film.  So far there has been no pioneer, no D.W. Griffith to step forward with a vision for television.  Nobody has realized its potential as an art form.  Most TV is focused on entertaining the most amount of people possible to obtain the most amount of revenue possible. \n\nAlso, I\'m just curious, what kind of television do you watch?  What are your favorite shows?  Mine are: \n\"Saved By the Bell\" (That Screech is just hilarious with his pubescent voice crackling!)\n\"Pokemon\" (Gotta catch \'em all!  Pikachu is my favorite because it is the cutest)\n\"Sabrina the Teenage Witch\" (Melissa Joan Hart is a superstar!)','3356af613b7a3ef283c63c1824294675',0,'','iCLk5d72',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1736,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037116083,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Curt...good question. Here\'s my take. Is TV art? Yes and no. Visually...not really with the exception of music videos and maybe some cable shows. But yes, there is a lot of written and spoken art. I consider comedy writing an artform. My favorite shows are The Simpsons, Letterman, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and, of course, Seinfield. ','eea8d03bee8f9482b0330e321a2a9747',0,'','VLgEoUq8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1737,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037124285,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','well Bergman always thought that is the best medium to reach an audience, you present a film on tv and then it\'s gone, no need to go through premieres and silly interviews around the globe anwering the same question.\n\nDavid Lynch as well, Twin peaks it\'s trully exellent series and Mulholland Drive was meant to be a tv series but ended up in a feature.','a1d863660197e1212a060aec43d617c3',0,'','WYouVJzQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1738,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037148504,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Well I think the first 100 episodes of Homicide: Life on the Streets (Andre Braugher left on ep. 100) were pretty great.  When I was making up my top ten list for the 90s I had to include the episode \"Every Mother\'s Son,\" a truly brilliant hour of television.  ...plus, Larry Sanders Beverly Hillbillies were pretty damn great.','96430de6be81097c6ab339a050696139',0,'','Fb39uDMK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1739,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037148558,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Larry Sanders & Beverly Hillbillies, I mean','e028741cb7ef19a83910ddb527ba94d0',0,'','auKTG2Fl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1740,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037151002,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','I rarely watch television. I just don\'t have time and when I do it\'s either Seinfield re-runs. The most interesting shows I have ever watched on tv had to be Twin Peaks. I also enjoyed watching a show called \"Freaks and Geeks\" which I believe aired on abc for one season, then they moved it to Fox Family. ','3a0c9c9f90360abe7b781cb922343677',0,'','Z91rKhGJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1741,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037152757,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','I love football season(see patsfan86) especially the New England Patriots for the last 26 years so I love television on the weekends in the fall.  With regards to television shows in the present there are none that have entertained me since Seinfeld, But I love the History Channel.  To me the greatest show of all time is the Andy Griffith Show.  It is absolutely timeless.  Honorable mention goes to the Beverly Hillbillies, Sanford and Son, and In Search Of...  I also love the Brit comedies like Keeping Up Appearances, the Thin Blue Line, Black Adder, and the Young Ones.','6517c6a6d9022ce0b8052b4f19c7f3d9',0,'','XKr904Rq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1742,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037165374,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Go patsfan86.  They pulled it off on Sun., didn\'t they?  Anyway, like alot of you here, I don\'t watch much TV (I\'d rather read or watch a movie).  However, I am a die hard Law & Order fan or A&E.  And any show that has to do with Egypt and the Pyramids.\n\nCiao.\n\njava','8ad50b24fc9edee09fccc9d2a339f290',0,'','AoY8FKgr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1743,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037201374,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','For those of you who like Larry Sanders and Seinfield, don\'t miss Curb Your Enthusiasm on HBO. It\'s created by Jerry\'s partner Larry David. Very very good.','4567f2654522f49ef7014c21974bfde9',0,'','2X7sPl49',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1744,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037348572,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Curt\n\nDennis Potter wrote novels, essays, stage plays, and movies but mainly focused on television, where his semi-autobiographical explorations into consciousness and memory led to innovations in drama. His masterpiece is \"The Singing Detective\" regarded by some as the best original work ever created for television.  Also his \"Cold \"Track 29\" \"Christabel\" \"Pennies from Heaven\" are all works worthy of viewing. \n','b1f4bef58376dac046229f47568285cb',0,'','FVa5Rt7l',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1745,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037374386,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Well, err, strange that \"Buffy\" is yet to be mentioned. If one way of accounting for artistry in TV (maybe not the best way) is finding examples of individual creative acts then a good place to start might be to identify those people in control of their series who also actively contribute in different facets of writing, directing and producing. Although this subsumes David E. Kelley as much as it does Joss Whedon, it might be worth debating. Hmm, who else is there? Aaron Sorkin, J. Michael Stryszinski, Darren Starr? I\'m not sure the issue is \"Is TV art?\" so much as what on TV obtains interesting artistic value (for want of a better word)? I guess it\'s also necessary to discern between what is not presented as art on TV (current affairs, infomercials, game shows) and what is...','afb645afb6fcfd5cf457296c2c9cca55',0,'','2Jq3DQAb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1746,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037524996,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','I would have to say that the funniest show I\'ve ever seen would be Mystery Science Theater 3000.','e6cc2ad2686cabc1d6009ed72b9c08be',0,'','k8e1Sag7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1747,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040484664,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','There are many who would deny that commercial cinema IS art although I do not want to get trapped in that argument.  Television is not art, in my opinion, but perhaps it is a means of projecting art. ','f1c0586de024b1f46f92208349f45dbd',0,'','S7nZJtAy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1748,426,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040602942,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium','Four words (or is it just two?):\n\nMary Hartman, Mary Hartman\n\nThat is the most brilliant satire I\'ve ever seen in a drama/comedy show.  That Norman Lear was quite a visionary...','8ebad9fe0bf0fdb69a7d11d54da62c1f',0,'','SiKszhVM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1749,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037089314,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','I know somebody had to have asked this at one point, but I\'m going to ask it again.  What was the first foreign film that you ever watched?  I\'m talking about the first one that made you decide to see more foreign films.  I watched a lot of French movies in high school French class, but none of them inspired me to delve deep into the seething underworld of foreign film gangsters.\n\nThe first one that I saw that made me think \"Hey, I need to see more of these!  They don\'t make movies like this in America!\" was one I saw just a month or two ago.  I saw The Hidden Fortress (Kurosawa) and was completely  astonished.  Toshiro Mifune\'s excellent performance broke through the language barrier, as it did in the second one I watched, \"Seven Samurai.\"  Then I saw \"City of Lost Children.\"  That was the movie that made me realize that I was missing out on (literally) a WORLD of great cinema.','07626b1b1d25993c2dd8451ac1b77ba3',0,'','oVJyWZfi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1750,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037109131,1,0,1,1,1,1,'winstonwes','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Cinema Paradiso.... I think I watched another two or three foreign films within a week.','f66264f49fd9a6acebd104c2506902d5',0,'','Pv2c6t8d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1751,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037114582,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Malle\'s Le Souffle au Coeur was the one that got me hooked, when I was 13. Since then I\'ve never looked back','1cb6fd3be20fe202049c02dea0c7c1e2',0,'','eN6mfigU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1752,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037115436,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Cinema Paradiso...after seeing it I thought it was one of the most complete films I have ever seen. I loved that foreign films were so less predictable than hollywood.','99a272846934ed9dfd245121d85c4f99',0,'','U7Yn1NZd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1753,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037124452,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','I can\'t remember , as I am spanish I saw many of them so it doesn\'t cpunt and I don\'t count american film either.\n\nI think it was \'Mon Oncle\' by Jacques Tati and \'Les Vanaces du Monsieur Hulot\' as a child. As a teenager \'Querelle\' by Fassbinder which put me off of Fassbinder as you can imagine, and \'Fitzcarraldo\' by Herzog, also Maria Braun and \'The Iron Tin\' by Sholondorf.','cfea5d7617dc0979dcf97c7cff97a1a5',0,'','cRMmBA53',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1754,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037125224,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','on video, either Cyrano de Bergerac or Cinema Paradiso... in the theater, Mother and Son','05c8c4dfdd08528e4f7e0ec6946ae5bf',0,'','TG9uBh5Q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1755,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037126410,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','I love this one!\n\nI grew up in a small town in North Ontario in Canada.  We had a video chain that used to send films to the store in my town that weren\'t renting in some of the bigger towns around the area.  I loved horror films so I always went to the horror section first.  There was a box with a clock on it, shaded in the deepest red I have ever seen.  The back of the box talked about \"ghosts\" and \"haunting\".  So, I rented it.  I brought it home...It was one of the most horrifying films I have ever seen...but it wasn\'t a horror movie!  It was Ingmar Bergman\'s CRIES AND WHISPERS...I loved it!  It was \"difficult\", but so emotionally rich.  I couldn\'t believe that films could actually be about something like...well, frankly...human emotions!  I have been in love with \"foreign film\" ever since!','1253cff3bd898c5e7cb1a070d9919ee3',0,'','gTeREs5t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1756,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037148917,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Honestly, I can\'t remember what the very first foreign film I saw was; however, I can remember the first that really moved me:  Rules of the Game.  I had seen a few foreign films before that--including some, like M, that I now love passionately--but they hadn\'t affected me much, primarily because I didn\'t understand them.  (Of course, I didn\'t wholly understand Rules of the Game then either--and I\'m sure I don\'t now either.)\n\nI\'d also like to note, while admitting that I know nothing about acting, that I find Renoir\'s own turn in this film to be one of the most charming in the whole of the cinema.  ','a39075af2422e34be7dc0fe4d4b3d352',0,'','KPszi1Cn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1757,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037150296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Cinema Paradiso','6bad9b30933b02ecfacecc8a9361d2ff',0,'','tjo9YsU0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1758,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037150424,1,0,1,1,1,1,'admin-2','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','HERE HERE!\n\nThe man is a god!  The scene where he tries to cheer up Christine by talking about her father and their times in Salzburg, is bravura acting.  When he suddenly realises what a failure he has become and slumps down on the steps...AHH...my heart broke!','610544482e89119599d8934050ac7fc7',0,'','4BHD7sui',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1759,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037153155,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','The film that I first saw and got me hooked was Kurosawa\'s Dersu Uzala. INCREDIBLE!  Within a week thereafter I saw Seven Samurai and I realized there was a whole other world out there to be discovered. ','c1af10dde7e69632baec1fedda165a4d',0,'','3Gd1NSmh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1760,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037165219,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Mine was Ju-Dou.  I watched it because of the story line.  I\'ve see alot of foreign films.  I like them for the simple reason that they don\'t always tie up the ending in a pretty pink ribbon.  \n\nCiao.\n\njava','76e5ad6f8afed403cf077e0763ea18d3',0,'','M0YcVU5E',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1761,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037201516,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','JavaJunkie,\n\nWell stated. That\'s what I mean when I say that foreign fims are not predictable. They don\'t need happy endings to be great.','975edc31e2be73c2743594ff16d180c6',0,'','lTFxyvps',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1762,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037236732,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','RENOIR\'S \"la grande illusion\" in the early 60\'s so you could say i started at the top so to speak,that was enough for me & a life long love affair with foreign film.which will never abate!','cd2df30bf8c9d35ccbec9038dbd7d0ab',0,'','3n60xLGC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1763,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037345271,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','Anna 1952 with Silvano Mangano and Raf Vallone.  I saw this film when I was 5 years old and have never forgotten it.','1332946ae0bac64739b7c37e4e1a84e7',0,'','4TmL58DS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1764,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037376898,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','I think the first non-English language film that really had me going bananas for any substantial reason was Antonioni\'s L\'Avventura. I probably saw eight Godard\'s before I had a clue what was going on with him (Vivre sa Vie being a turning point). I remember falling asleep in both Wings of Desire and Solaris. Hehe. In my case the conditioning took quite a while. Also, I think foreign cinema has mostly reaffirmed my Hollywood tastes rather than ursurped them. I don\'t mind Showgirls with Last Year at Marienbad or Rio Bravo with The Fate of Lee Khan or whatever. It\'s all good. :)','e8398266964bb682ae46c5939c7d04fa',0,'','Pc8yC6xw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1765,427,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037401809,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: I\'m sure this one has been asked before...','I think it was Il Postino or maybe El Mariachi...anyway Ive been hooked ever since.','fc7eb2e5bce8a14fd4a730edbf7d30ab',0,'','EyA6LFuN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1766,428,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037301989,1,0,1,1,1,1,'anna_pizarro','Agnes Varda  Du Cote de la Cote: English Subtitles','There are no subtitled formats of Agnes Varda\'s \"Du Cote de la Cote\". Does anyone of an English  transcription of this short? \n','a83f04d5374fa46becbee23babc60a31',0,'','pHWC6fSD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1767,429,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037398088,1,0,1,1,1,1,'msthing75','The Way Home - Korean film opens in NYC and LA','Has anyone seen The Way Home? Could I get a review? It was a blockbuster in Korea and now it\'s opening in the US today. Here is the website (Paramount Classics is distributing): http://www.paramountclassics.com/wayhome\n','c1a385bcac531e61e46eac4f29b34458',0,'','e1HDFSgm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1768,429,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037620535,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: The Way Home - Korean film opens in NYC and LA','Check out the best Korean film site on the \'Net, Darcy Paquet\'s www.koreanfilm.org\n','5b59f09f741bfac1a5b087b5e51e4ccd',0,'','rUo4SqYV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1769,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037404589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','I suppose this topic might seem redundant, but, as a good many of us probably aren\'t lucky enough to be in a large metropolitan area, it might be a rare pleasure to see a great film on the big screen--I know it is for me--and so this topic might be deserving of some discussion.  (By the way, I\'m not some video-hater.  If it wasn\'t for video, I wouldn\'t have seen the vast majority of the films I most cherish.  Sure, it would be nice if there was a repertory theater on every street corner, but I don\'t see it happening anytime soon.)   \n\nSo, what\'s been your best experience in the theater?\n\nI doubt I can limit myself to one choice.  I was fortunate enough to see Pickpocket, Vampyr, and Sunrise on the big screen--and for only a dollar!--through the university film society where I used to go to school.  Yes, the prints were poor, and the sound was bad, and the seating was terrible, and almost no one else showed up (I think only about five people showed up for each showing), but you can\'t have it all.\n\nI would have to say, however, that my finest theatrical experience was seeing Akerman\'s Jeanne Dielman in yet another student film society showing.  (Fortunately, the theater was (somewhat) better this time around.)  Not only is this film nearly impossible to see here in the States, but it strikes me that this is the sort of film which demands to be seen in the theater:  the soundtrack was very impressive (and Bressonian really--all those exaggerated diegetic sound effects), and the movie certainly accumulates power when you\'re forced to remain in your seat for three-and-a-half hours and be complicit in Ms. Dielmann\'s chores and her inevitable breakdown and (I suppose) some of her boredom too.  (Still, only about twenty people showed up--on a campus of nearly 20,000--and of those who did show up only about half made it to the end.) \n\nI suppose sitting in the theater for the better part of an evening and watching a woman\'s housework also makes us complicit in her being subjugated by the patriarchy and all, although I didn\'t pick up a lot of feminist hectoring in the film--not that it would be such a bad thing if I had.  The film struck me as part formal exercise and part horror film (a sort of tract on the absolute banality of repression and its inevitable consequence, namely, the eruption of suppressed feeling), without much in the way of political overtones.  (Actually, now that I think about it, it sort of reminds me of Romero\'s Martin in that both are exposes of the dirt behind the petit bourgeois daydream or something like that.) ','833a4497cbc84b9fa14905fc38f07ac9',0,'','zkC5rDvA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1770,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037620295,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','This all sounds strangely familiar. My film society is luck to obtain a handful of spectators to any screening. One night, for Ozu\'s Early Spring, this shot up to twenty viewers. Go figure. Few came again though.\n\nWish I could see Jeanne Dielman in a big screen environment. Sounds great! When I was just getting into films I was lucky to see Citizen Kane in an outdoor, botanical gardens, venue. Lush! The Vertigo re-release rocked my world. Funny Games screwed me up inside and made me paranoid at the after-movie drinks. Similarly with The Ring. I have no idea why these two films rather than others (I don\'t even like them to any great extent...though I prefer The Ring). Have watched Cockfighter on 16mm, had a projector breakdown, and completed seeing it on Steenbeck (with several people huddled around the monitor). I found Ordet to be a profound viewing experience (and far less so on tape). Again, not really a favourite of mine but the contemplative affect was startling. I think one of the best experiences on video, incidentally, was Stalker, which holds up very well in that medium. One film I would love to see in the theatre is Alien. Too young for its initial release, no opportunities (here) since. I\'d finally like to hear some of the dialogue that Ripley utters at the climax...','9e384841e1bd0818fecd112044f81c25',0,'','Wv0JBQdM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1771,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037641548,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','katsuben: Ever since I read your post I have been driven insane... Your story about having seen Cockfighter on a Steenbeck, after the projector broke down reminded me of the exact same story I read in some article on Monte Hellman’s work.  I thought it was Chuck Steven’s article in film comment, but I re-read it and it is not… so are you that film critic?  If so, where is the article?  If not, did you notice any film critics in the room with you that night?  Please help, or else my head will explode trying to remember this.  \n\nBy the way, my greatest theatrical experiences have been Van Gogh (Pialat), Puppetmaster, all the Sembene, Godard, and Kiarostami I\'ve been able to see in New York, the Sayles Retrospective, Regaurding Penelope\'s Wake, Dorsky\'s The Visistation, and Lewis Kalahr\'s Daylight Moon at the Walter Reed (in fact, everything I\'ve ever seen at the Walter Reed), and the Straight Story and Thin Red Line at my local multiplex, and the hundreds of others at any time, at any place I get a chance to see a movie on the big screen... ALSO: seeing Pootie Tang and Kundun alone, in empty theaters.','094739d30419fe8371082bc40c3684b1',0,'','T7df2Yui',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1772,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037641732,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','and seeing Barbershop (a wonderfully entertaining film) in a packed house... not talking over the film, but clearly appreciative.','144e38258c655af6d9190a9915ded165',0,'','a6EL8WPc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1773,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037672171,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','I live in a small town and there are no theaters that show any films other than new releases.  Having said that, the best film I ever saw in the theater was \"Road to Perdition.\"  A great movie.  Also, I have to say this.  This might not sound like an intellectual comment, but I think we can all agree that it\'s true.  Sometimes watching a movie with tons of explosions and great special effects in the theater is an experience.  I saw Independence Day when it came out, and I must say that was amazing.','35aa430fec31953e5703c224d605bddd',0,'','bo3azdBg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1774,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037684995,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','Found it! Notes on the 2001 Flinders University Film Society Programme by James Brown in Sense of Cinema... now my head will not explode.\n','5dc311f02f77f4c0e139a07d681e0f36',0,'','LsB7G2JU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1775,430,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037699502,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Finest Theatrical Experience(s)?','I grew up in a small town which was blessed with a Cinema Club and at my first visit to their theatre (in a church hall) I saw a documentary on the Zuider Zee followed by Le Souffle au Coeur.  All in all a top night out.  Things have progressed for me now because I subscribe to World Movies which is showing, among other treats, Chongqing Senlin this week.  I am looking forward to it.','e3e5bc56a2e2a39c1a4d156365589cdc',0,'','DwFyBuHL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1776,431,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037480043,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Any Turkish movie worth to see ?','i just wanted to know soem worht-to-see movies from Turkey. any one has some ?','531d7759ebba405e62df63903d4713ce',0,'','MADRQl1t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1777,431,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037706115,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: Any Turkish movie worth to see ?','Many moons ago I was awestruck by Yol.  Would love that Turkish film to have a dvd release.','7c94679edb17a0d1065ded0c8ef4f7b2',0,'','X9DshRco',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1778,431,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037738112,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Any Turkish movie worth to see ?','zzzooom is right to recommend Yol - alternately beautiful, harrowing and politically challenging look at four prisoners on parole release returning to their homes in different parts of Turkey. I understand The Herd (Okten), and Hope are other classics, also A Season in Hakkari, Motherland Hotel, Dry Summer. Availability in Britain at least is virtually non-existent. Another i saw -officially Swiss-, which won the Oscar for 1990 is Journey of Hope, about refugees making their way to Switzerland from Turkey; no masterpiece but involving and definitely worth seeing.','52d0e686c6e47afc11ce4b9cb7295f9a',0,'','tMrT0sqp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1779,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037525479,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Black and White','I just finished watching Kurosawa\'s RAN.  One of the most striking things about this movie was its use of vivid, beautiful colors.  I feel that it really added a lot to the film, and, for lack of a better word, \"illuminated\" Kurosawa\'s visuals.  Actually, illuminate is the perfect word for the purpose color serves.  \n\nThis got me thinking about people who prefer black and white visuals to colored.  Jimmy Stewart went to congress to prevent old films from being remade with technicolor.  I can\'t think of a single advantage of black and white visuals.  Why didn\'t Kurosawa and other directors use color after it was available?','043215a581b5e4def9046347ee946684',0,'','TtWAKfkn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1780,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037559384,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: Black and White','I\'ll admit I\'m not expert in this area--am I anywhere?--but I think the last question is fairly easily answered in some cases:  some directors probably continued to use black and white, since it was cheaper.  That, I suppose, was a primary motivation in a lot of decisions to use black and white rather than color.\n\nThe debate about whether black and white is better than color strikes me as about as pointless as the debate about whether silent film is better than sound film.  The categories seem largely incommensurable:  each has its benefits and drawbacks, and they do quite different things.  It appears one would have to appeal to some overarching normative theory about film aethetics to make an argument on behalf of either black and white or color, and the arguments I\'ve heard on this matter have all been quite jejune and unconvincing (e.g. film creates a dreamscape, and so black and white is better; film ought to be realistic, and so color is better; and so on).  I\'m sure people have come up with better reasons than these, but I\'ve yet to encounter them.  \n\nHere\'s the only method I\'d suggest for settling this (I think, silly) debate:  go and look at the films themselves.  To my eye, there are some visually magnificent color films that would gain nothing by being in black and white, and there are some equally beautiful films in black and white that would gain nothing from being in color.  Take some lovely black and white films--for instance (and in no particular order), Ordet, Day of Wrath, Andrei Rublev, Queen Kelly, The Scarlet Empress, The Magnificent Ambersons, Ivan the Terrible, The Night of the Hunter, Sunrise, Tabu, L\'Eclisse, L\'Atalante, Last Year at Marienbad, Sansho the Bailiff, Ugetsu, The Life of Oharu, etc.  Would they really gain anything by being in color?  I fail to see how, and, moreover, I think they\'d be likely to lose a lot of what is most distinctive about them--at least visually.  \n  \nThe evidence of the value of black-and-white cinematography is there on the screen.  Just look.','361d7d15d6e4153b49e508238702783d',0,'','pFN187Rr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1781,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037571524,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Black and White','I suppose it\'s easier to misuse colour film. I\'m personally a big fan of black and white films. Part of their appeal is undoubtedly nostalgia for the past, but this is surely not the only thing that marks them apart from colour. Not being an expert (like wvq), I\'d like to see what others think.\n\nFor a direct contrast, Lindsay Anderson\'s If.... is a film which intercuts b/w and colour film to remarkable effect - and reputedly because of restrictions on the film\'s budget. If you don\'t know it, check it out.\n\nFor me, colour is not at all essential to make a film enjoyable.','95573243e6a9624f11353a3c82b99b41',0,'','JA9Lq3df',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1782,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037619038,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Black and White','i don\'t know if nostalgia is necessarily a function of B&W photography. Watching Bogie, for instance, has to deliver more nostalgic sensation than, say, watching Peter Coyote (in some b&w neo-noir that i fear to look up).','d9f42ad1f87d7d73c0236822181589ac',0,'','l12GCixW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1783,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040484825,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Black and White','The argument that black and white film and lack of sound is a drawback to cinematic art is nonsensical.','4b24d26de0bfc11e471ad83765129fd9',0,'','SZVrekbm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1784,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041933106,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Black and White','I CAN\'T believe someone wanted to make certain classic B&W films and make them Technicolor or tint them with color. Can you imagine \"Trouble in Paradise\", \"The Big Sleep\" or \"The Third Man\" in color? Just breaks my heart to think of it.','cb433a3c4cf6afe4d57e5bc3a47d6ad6',0,'','B4Vu2b6k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1785,432,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041974218,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Black and White','Not for the first time, i\'ll second wvq- in support of b&w, and some excellent examples given (eg Dreyer and Mizoguchi). Watching the impeccable subtlety in the shades of white, cream, grey, exceptional lighting (and compositions) in Ordet again recently was an awe-inspiring experience. As Angelopoulos said of it, how can such perfection exist? \n\nWould Raging Bull and Manhattan have been as good in colour? Doubtful. \n\nTarkovsky made superb use of a mixture of colour and b&w (and desaturation..)- i\'m surprised that relatively few directors have followed his example. \n\nOf course, i love the use of colour, too, by directors like Godard and Rohmer- glorious primaries. Kobayashi\'s Kwaidan, and Mizoguchi\'s Tales of the Taira Clan are also wonderful to behold. Surely there\'s room for all the possibilities of cinema being explored, nothing excluded. ','5b8046539cd8696e1d1e2756affba26c',0,'','9yXJkVwE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1786,433,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037718326,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Why isn\'t this movie in the Top 100?!','I just saw one of the greatest films of all time!  Chushingura!  This movie is so good!  Why isn\'t it on the top 100?  You should go see it right now!  What?  You\'ve seen it already?  Then go see it again!','70fa6335cef4209a2d0008f8f1ee9b7d',0,'','3sG4tHq6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1787,433,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038503025,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Why isn\'t this movie in the Top 100?!','The samurai film for pacifists!','012e14dfb33d416014ee4b3e24f3d730',0,'','mZ4YPJfC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1788,433,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038508788,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: Why isn\'t this movie in the Top 100?!','Pacifists?  Have you seen the ending of that movie?  Murder galore!','c0d9acd0fc48c5cafeaa5d68ffdd1fd5',0,'','S7jhrswz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1789,433,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038588168,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Why isn\'t this movie in the Top 100?!','We must have seen different movies, the violence at the end is all off-screen. I thought the whole point of Mizoguchi\'s 47 Ronin was that the singular act of bloodletting at the beginning generates the expectation for more violence but negates it in favour of political intrigues?','f831d9249163055bcfae41f3893395e0',0,'','bJdHioN1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1790,433,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038588374,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: Why isn\'t this movie in the Top 100?!','Hmm...I think it\'s my mistake, considering the film you guys are talking about is not Mizoguchi\'s?!? My weakened powers of observation and translation and so forth. :)','c9a26178f5696a892f460d85a1c3ad04',0,'','CitYgjT2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1791,434,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037742042,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ilmalavita2001','Simonetta Stefanelli aka \"Apollonia\"','Hi been desperately looking for a contact, agent-manager-publicist for the beautiful Italian actress who played along side Al Pacino in the Godfather, anyone with info please contact me. thank you in advance\nilmalavita2001@yahoo.com','14dedb7e18ae095b6a7b21d9f6d622c1',0,'','vWAoQwiP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1792,434,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037869320,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Simonetta Stefanelli aka \"Apollonia\"','Simonetta Placido, aged 41, and lives in Rome.','9cf43d277d4d349a0b3525a803c06ee2',0,'','1356BnWP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1793,434,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037872217,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ilmalavita2001','Re: Simonetta Stefanelli aka \"Apollonia\"','Dear Arletty;\n           Thank you very much for your time & info. If you have any way of providing contact info for agent/manager/publicist/attorney, I would greatly appreciate it. Again, I in \"NO\" way wish to try and contact her directly and invade her private life. Someone or some method to have a letter forwarded to her.   \n-Thank you again\nilmalavita2001@yahoo.com','ccba1d46c00203d88fc10fb213775b41',0,'','DWK8hvGR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1794,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037947211,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','Top 5 Foreign films','what are your top 5 foreign films? I know its a hard one but try!','fe0161d68f97ab4a4e5fefccf40143ef',0,'','PM2GWzj0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1795,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037961671,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Van Gogh, Where is the Friend\'s Home?, In a Year of 13 Moons, The Puppetmaster (or maybe Yi-Yi), The Crime of Monsieur Lange... usually my best of lists change every day, but these have always been near the top.','220f43c8cfbda8eeee8fb4b2fe2c0f0a',0,'','MsAazhHx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1796,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037979668,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Here are mine.\n\nCaro Diario (1994)\nIndochine (1991)\nCinema Paradiso (1988)\nCrouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)\nJean de Florette (1986)','f9fa5c5a49e1f6d94a2b335340adfd0f',0,'','UVxaNGni',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1797,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037994169,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Tigerlily707','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Un Coeur en Hiver\n\nCrouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon\n\nEat Drink Man Woman\n\nThe Road Home\n\nLa Buche','81bf80b3e54f096b61404b1b5e5dbef7',0,'','zXsJbrvp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1798,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038009000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','aviv71 I loved Jean de Florette did you see the sequel, Mannon of the Spring. A must see!','0eb1973f72ac3de9550fb74c73d3cda3',0,'','DmuCY7xQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1799,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038024257,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Yes, I did see it. It was very good also...just couldn\'t fit it in my top five.','0102361cb8af7077a0ad4b5f87f1d842',0,'','UuBfbHcl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1800,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038024975,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','There\'s so many to choose from, I don\'t know where to start.\n\nUnder the Sand\nThe Venus Beauty Institute\nThe Scent of Green Papaya\nRaise the Red Lantern\nAmelie\n\nCiao.\n\njava','c569cf8f15616da9c6bbc40a917a70f7',0,'','F3VsNobd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1801,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038180280,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Run Lola Run\n\nBand of Outsiders\n\nThe Nights of Cabiria\n\nJohnny Stecchino\n\nLa Femme Nikita','d38cffcd5d0369eb986d41233cfbb006',0,'','EVwjypYq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1802,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039542495,1,0,1,1,1,1,'belohorizontedvd','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','These are the films wich I liked the most from each director. There could be others in this list, as I am still in the process of watching the great foreign classics.\n\nLa Dolce Vita (1960)\nLes Diaboliques (1954) \nThe Seventh Seal (1956)  \nRashomon (1951)  \nRififi (1955)   \n\n \n\n','24fa73d84d23580d91f14196890d2f0e',0,'','sCjXSdxU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1803,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039636524,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','That\'s way too general a question. I mean, I could pick my five favorites from almost every country! But...\n\n8 1/2 (Fellini)\nPersona (Bergman)\nLa Regle De Jeu (Renoir)\nA Bout De Souffle (Godard)\nTirez Sur Pianiste (Truffaut)\n','58f98b1d50ce1a3d309ff464b5c1e7a0',0,'','aXUvJ3V1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1804,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039672736,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','Cinema Paradiso\nFlowers of Shanghi\nChunking Express\nHappy together\nM','01bebe512f82ad59d5b53dfb0f68ad82',0,'','xRcdoQZG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1805,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040049822,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','As classic foreign films or World Cinema I like:\n\n- The Bicycle Thieves (de sica)\n\n- Wild Strawberries (bergman)/ Fanny And Alexander\n\n- 400 Blows (truffaut)/ Breathless (goddard)\n\n- 8 1/5 (fellini)\n\n- The Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)/ Kaguemusha\n\n- anyhting by Luis Bunel\n\nAs a modern World Cinema films;\n\n- Talk To her/ The Flower Of My Secret (almodovar)\n\n- Amores Perros\n\n- Les Nuits Du Lune Plain (Rhomer)\n\n- Y Tu Mama Tambien \n\n- Kikujiro (Takeshi Kitano)/ Hana Bi or Brother\n\n- Nine Queens\n\n- Sex And Lucia/ Vacas (Julio Medem)\n\n- Barrio/ Los Lunes Al Sol (Fernando leon de Aranoa)\n\n- Delicatessen (Jean Pierre Jeaunet)\n\nI know it\'s five top but I can\'t make up my mind..and most likely I forgot the best films I have seen as well!','e77c8f0e251df55b57b7ffe1596e5940',0,'','v2xfpyKQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1806,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040064949,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','This little question is, of course, impossible to answer.  However, that won\'t keep me from taking a stab at it.  I\'ve decided not to include some titles that I\'ve mentioned time and again in other threads (e.g. Ordet, M, The Life of Oharu, Tokyo Story, and Les Vampires).  Here then are some alternates that are quite wonderful.\n\nDay of Wrath\nThe Good, the Bad, and the Ugly\nL\'Argent (Bresson)\nLate Spring\nUmberto D','37c18ced7f3279badcf373b8c0077f19',0,'','ksanzlmY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1807,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040082560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'masalsky','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','The Vanishing\nRingu\nOpen Your Eyes\nThe Piano Teacher\nEl Mariachi','b2ff418313f833bb7479cbd8c77d6f46',0,'','zCeBG4Mu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1808,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040148458,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','L\'Atalante (Vigo), L\'Age d\'Or (Bunuel), Ordet (Dreyer), Arabian Nights (Pasolini), Autumn Sonata (Bergman).  ','4548303047b5594e773a98892fd69a92',0,'','rzt6JMv8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1809,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040168965,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','1. Sansho Dayu (Mizoguchi)\n2. Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)\n3. Maborosi (Kore-eda)\n4. Alice in the Cities (Wenders)\n5.=The Green Ray (Rohmer)\n   Abraham Valley (Oliveira)\n\nThese are favourites. Seven Samurai, Mirror, La Regle du Jeu, Tokyo Story and The Colour of Pomegranates are among the greatest.\n','bcbedc667512725b6df0531b7b71f3e2',0,'','EdTgmPNC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1810,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040188386,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','1.la regle du jeu.... jean renoir\n2.sayat nova (the colour of pomegranates)\n3.zerkalo(mirror)\n4.l\'atalante\n5.nights of cabiria\n','d522191831419bd597d1aad45b5c7e2c',0,'','8lSy3FEN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1811,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040358458,1,0,1,1,1,1,'plllll','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','1) Cinema Paradiso\n2) Like Water For Chocolate\n','ab09d84c629a690a5ce9fa42edd8e929',0,'','yuPiCcRE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1812,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041058704,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','I must comment although this topic seems strangely familiar.\n1. 8 1/2\n2. To Live\n3. La Dolce Vita\n4. The Seventh Seal\n5. Jules and Jim\n','f1aab3bc2ea55b84c0cddf66a1956bcb',0,'','c3fzpoL8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1813,435,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041931591,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Top 5 Foreign films','It\'s like trying to pick your favorite child...\nMy fav foreign sound films:\n\nL\'Avventura (Antonioni)\nThe 400 Blows (Truffaut)\nPierrot Le Fou (Godard)\nIkiru (Kurosawa)\nAmelie (Jeunet)','5457a02f2c167bf8e261512cd5ad12d6',0,'','xiCdmAT2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1814,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037994700,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Tigerlily707','Mostly Martha','Did anyone catch the German film \"Mostly Martha\" that was out a couple of months ago?','0501515792954da8009a8f4ea9807c4a',0,'','1JctUxke',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1815,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1037995010,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: Mostly Martha','I saw it two weeks ago. I loved it. A real feel good movie that dealt with real emotions. I highly recommend it.','32a1c96182129b6166bd56158b94c751',0,'','Vx0jCXeA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1816,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038017394,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Tigerlily707','Re: Mostly Martha','I loved it too. It\'s one of my favorite movies of the year.','7bd18dd5c4e3b0464bef683577771066',0,'','qL4o2FRe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1817,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040850087,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mainecoon5','Re: Mostly Martha','Yes Tigerlilly, I saw it and loved it very much.  It had everything, romance, love, comedy, passion, inrospection, trajedy, spirituality, and most important, the message to embrace life whatever and whoever it throws at you!  (Michael in San Francisco)','d6785665baf755d8c49d8b172e2aec31',0,'','U3PNV0qb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1818,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041932873,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Mostly Martha','Yes, I agree that it is a very good film. Nomintated for Best Foreign Film at Golden Globes this year. A feel-good film that was realistic and hilarious and heartbreaking. Deserved the word-of-mouth success of an \"Amelie\" or \"Y Tu Mama Tambien\" but for some reason never made it past foreign movie filmgoers.','10fe86989d140de123511f51cb4e0fbf',0,'','JuVDs1k9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1819,436,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049497060,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Mostly Martha','I liked the film quite a bit.  It reminded me of Ponette.','6ea14b94673b61abc9ca1cd8c503aa58',0,'','w5bcRSGD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1820,437,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038168192,1,0,1,1,1,1,'neeraj2u','Shooting for PARADISE starts, without Patricia! What is happening??','Check this out guys!!\nwww.paradise-film.com.\nRoger Steinmann and his team have started shooting for Paradise,even without casting the actress for lead role of patricia paradise.\nHollywood at its best!!! \n','bd16d47fd799e3bdc706919b4a9f3a96',0,'','9Nq0znpc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1821,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038183335,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Best film decade','With all these debates raging, I thought another one wouldn\'t hurt.\n\nWhy not classify films by decade? It\'s as effective a method as some others.\n\nMy vote goes to the 70s, as you can no doubt tell from my favourites.','267eb33675e9bd64010508318c61fd5c',0,'','Xihqt94y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1822,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038200679,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: Best film decade','As always, I\'ll preface this by saying that I\'m hazarding an opinion on this matter with very insufficient evidence.  But I\'ll be intrepid here and say that I like the 50s quite a good deal.\n\nFirst and perhaps most importantly, this is sort of the end of the great studio period in Hollywood.  You\'ve got established masters in their prime:  Hitchcock (Vertigo, Rear Window, North by Northwest, etc.); Hawks (Rio Bravo, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes); Lang (The Big Heat, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, etc.); Ford (The Searchers).  You\'ve got the end of the noir cycle with Kiss Me Deadly and Touch of Evil.  You\'ve got the start of the careers of Ray, Fuller, Kubrick, etc.  And you\'ve got your occasional brilliant Hollywood one-off like The Night of the Hunter.  \n\nSecond, you\'ve got major things happening in France.  Most importantly, you\'ve got the first New Wave films (e.g. Breathless, The 400 Blows, etc.) at the end of the decade.  You also have other masters--like Renoir (The Golden Coach, The River, etc.) and Bresson (A Man Escaped, Pickpocket, Diary of a Country Priest--doing their thing.\n\nIn Japan, you\'ve got the late and very rich work of their two greatest directors (at least in my opinion), Mizoguchi and Ozu.  Also, you\'ve got what might be Kurosawa\'s richest period.\n\nIn Italy, you have late neorealism.  You also have Rossellini\'s work in this period, as well as the next generation of Italian masters (e.g. Antonioni, Visconti, and Fellini) coming into their own.\n\nPlus, you\'ve got major work by directors elsewhere.  Dreyer\'s Ordet and Bunuel\'s Los Olvidados come to mind at the moment. \n\nI\'m sure I\'m forgetting a lot of stuff I should be mentioning, but that seems like a pretty good decade to me as I look at it now.  (By the way, I think respectable cases could also be made for the 20s and the 60s.)\n','0cd63790b033cf9a88a79bd34bc52a5f',0,'','tmTeRfPd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1823,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038661014,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Best film decade','The 50s were great - Night of the Hunter is an incredible film - but although some masterpieces were made in the 20s, can we really compare the output of decades as early as that with other, more recent years? Perhaps we can.\n\nI\'m not sure in fact, given the choice, whether I\'d choose the 1990s over the 1920s or not.','1544909f305cff24a65b9a7935def34b',0,'','eAqzwjZ9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1824,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038778631,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Best film decade','I prefer the 60\'s, because of \"8 1/2\", \"After The Fox\", the Pink Panther movies, \"The Party\", \"There\'s a Girl in My Soup\", \"It\'s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World\", \"Ocean\'s Eleven\", \"Blowout\", \"The Thomas Crown Affair\", the James Bond flicks (including \"Casino Royale\"), \"To Sir With Love\", and others.','352ab89301dd20522c286dd5b215d678',0,'','gocemN7j',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1825,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039426199,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Best film decade','It has to be the 50\'s- for reasons outlined by wvq. It was a golden age for Japanese films. From 52-55 Mizoguchi alone directed several masterpieces; Life of Oharu, Ugetsu Monogatari, Sansho the Bailiff, Chikamatsu Monogatari, Tales of the Taira Clan, Yang Kwei Fei. Add Ozu\'s Tokyo Story, Kurosawa\'s Seven Samurai, Rashomon, Throne of Blood, Ikiru, Hidden Fortress, and the most admired films by Naruse and Ichikawa.\n\nNot forgetting Sunset Boulevard, All About Eve, Umberto D, Singin in the Rain, The Band Wagon (these 2, in successive years, constitute the peak of musicals), High Noon, The Wages of Fear, Monsieur Hulot\'s Holiday, Senso, Apu Trilogy, Pyaasa, Paths of Glory, Twelve Angry Men, Bridge on the River Kwai, Some Like it Hot, Hiroshima mon Amour. Bergman (The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries) and Fellini (La Strada, Cabiria Nights) hitting their stride, and Ophuls\' final period; Le Plaisir, Madame de, Lola Montes. ','aee5b4b42d4443a5e7e546897c6bc2a2',0,'','b7KVAGg0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1826,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041058121,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Best film decade','I agree on the sixties, but for different reasons.  I also must add that you probably mean Blow Up rather than the 1981 Blow Out.  In my opinion foreign film never got better with 8 1/2, La Dolce Vita, Sergio Leone\'s Dollars Trilogy, Jules and Jim, The Weekend, and numerous others.  On the American side it saw 2001, Lawrence of Arabia, The Manchurian Candidate, the Graduate,and Psycho.','d25bc6fc8c3b3763e3be7d8e88fa8fc4',0,'','mhqgXnxU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1827,438,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041932558,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Best film decade','I would say American cinema thrived for sure in the 50\'s and 60\'s, and forever changed it. Nothing was the same after \"Bonnie and Clyde\" and \"The Wild Bunch\", which essentially defined what screen violence would become for the next 30 or so years. Godard was in France changing cinema forever and becoming the most important filmmaker since Griffith. So I\'d have to say, in all of world cinema, the 60\'s changed everything. The 50\'s may have had the best of what already existed, but didn\'t redefine nor question cinema aesthetics like the 60\'s.','926d149a7bccf9692551decb2e36b05b',0,'','Lc5ebp2m',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1828,439,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038378407,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','iranian cinema','ok so in iranian cinema why do the censor the movies and are there examples of this ','fe128f98ca9b6c97691fb6969120e968',0,'','NjdDGcoH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1829,439,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038503181,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: iranian cinema','\"They\" being whom?','1be1ff71ba83156f0fdb667351d7207b',0,'','qa4sSEix',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1830,440,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038413584,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','The Black Stallion','My two year old son loves horses, so I bought him The Black Stallion. He\'s watched it about 20 times since I picked it up. The more I watch this film, the more impressed I am by it. Not only is it visually great, but it is great in its lack of dialog. There are long stretches of the movie where no one speaks, but you don\'t even miss it. It\'s really well done. The music is great too.','a3eec0c32707b1d2eae63fabe5850cad',0,'','LqgRTnso',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1831,441,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038416112,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ilmalavita2001','Michele Placido','Can anyone provide for me the snail mail address for the offices of the Italian actor-director MICHELE PLACIDO.\n-Thank you\nilmalavita2001@yahoo.com','d0017f87c9d38818fa0040bc92100340',0,'','wRHrtup3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1832,442,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038466650,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nickpilarski','downloads for films','does anybody know were i can download Independent Films or Foreign films to my hard disk','b33020c376acfa67959268f61991f55a',0,'','BdmRA5ie',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1833,442,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038503695,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','Re: downloads for films','I don\'t know but I assimilate them into my neural network on a daily basis.','a46378416bd4a2a8a4a6ca3973d739b6',0,'','UPtVYFr4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1834,442,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038792977,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: downloads for films','Go to the links section of this site. There are a couple of places listed.','c31da95d440f5f0d7197e8f895b0c7cd',0,'','lV7S3GET',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1835,443,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038505432,1,0,1,1,1,1,'katsuben','which film fests and why','hi gang. i am curious as to what Film Fests, domestic or around the world, people do or want to attend on a semi-regular basis. i\'m especially interested in peoples thoughts and feelings concerning the range of films they enjoy. i personally find myself liking, at most, 10% of what i see on these ocassions. this seems a curiously low percentage, and i was wondering if this matches or wildly differs from the experiences of others. i don\'t find the low range of quality films a problem, per se, it simply suggests to me that a wonderful film is a rare thing (at least when it is seen just once, and in a certain specialised setting -- ie. one where films are judged against one another in a rather brief and furious manner). regards. FYI, fests i\'m keen on attending in the future include HK, Pusan, Karlovy Vary, Hawaii, Rotterdam, Vancouver, and Telluride just because i am partial to swooning at -ohmigosh- stars in ski outfits.','d67b4da04a59fbf680d21151aba3c91a',0,'','lW2pRLvz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1836,444,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038681959,1,0,1,1,1,1,'l.spadotto','a french independent short movie ! comments and critics are welcome !','Hi all, \n\nPlease find here my short movie \nhttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/autolyse/short-movie/ \n\nDuration : 5mn \nformat : quicktime 5 or better \n\nDon\'t forget to send me your critics and comments. (my email is available on the webiste too, l.spadotto@wanadoo.fr) \n\nI think i\'m gonna try to participate to some US independent festival. \n\nHope you enjoy with this movie ! \n\nLaurent. ','82969cb43a639f2f9a2bd01b8d90e20d',0,'','syc37DpG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1837,445,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1038953242,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Rob_Anderson','NYC: \"Positif 50 Years\" discussion and book signing 12/4','Please join us for this free event marking the release of \"Positif 50 Years\". - Rob Anderson, The Museum of Modern Art\n\nMEET THE AUTHOR\nMoMA\'s Fall 2002 Book Signing & Lecture Series\n\nPositif 50 Years: Selected Writings from the French Film Journal, co-edited by Michel Ciment and Laurence Kardish \n   &gt; Wednesday, December 4\n   &gt; 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.\n   &gt; MoMA Design Store, Soho, 81 Spring Street, NYC\nTo celebrate the 50th Anniversary and the 500th issue of the French film journal Positif--voilà! What could satisfy the cinephile more than an anthology, in English, of the very best Positif articles from the last five decades? A preeminent film magazine since its inception, the monthly Positif has always been at the forefront of critical thought, discerning trends in cinema as they are happening. With over 40 articles covering some of the most notable films of the past 50 years, this compendium reveals how the magazine accomplished that very feat throughout its existence. With an introduction by Michel Ciment, the editor of the magazine, and articles by distinguished critics and practitioners, this compilation pays tribute to both the importance of films and the lasting value of Positif.\n\nJoin Michel Ciment and Laurence Kardish for a discussion of Positif, the ideas behind the magazine, and the culture of cinema. Michel Ciment is a veteran Positif editor, celebrated author and noted film critic. Laurence Kardish is Senior Curator in the Department of Film and Media at The Museum of Modern Art.\n\n','0c114c97bf1ca29fb494acb6992f8963',0,'','dKxNWuZq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1838,446,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039083811,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Is this good news or bad news?','Hey, everybody.  I\'m sure some of you are aware that when a movie is really popular, they might make a videogame based on it to cash in on the success.  This often happens with Hollywood films, but never with foreign films.  Until now.  I am not making this up.  A company called \"Sammy\" is making a videogame for the Playstation 2 that is based on Akira Kurosawa\'s \"The Seven Samurai.\"  I read this in a popular videogame magazine called \"The Official Playstation Magazine.\"  The source is reliable.  What do you think?','64044a608e8d377feaad4f91ab89bf51',0,'','QedtGTXi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1839,446,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039085653,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Is this good news or bad news?','Is it good or bad?\n\nWho cares? If you don\'t like it just ignore it - that\'s what I\'ll do. It\'s impossible to stop big businesses and commercialisation taking over the world.','6983c09568601aa79f3852eae3eb106c',0,'','2wWN17vJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1840,446,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041058233,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Re: Is this good news or bad news?','I would say it is bad, but it wouldn\'t be the first time American\'s have horned in on Kurosawa\'s classic, remember the Magnificent Seven and its sequel?','9858a469d61f5c21aef5ee9ac93aff4f',0,'','LXV5qml1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1841,446,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041373017,1,0,1,1,1,1,'esackman','Re: Is this good news or bad news?','There were actual three sequels: \"Return of the Seven\" (1966), \"Guns of the Magnificent Seven\" (1969), and  \"The Magnificent Seven Ride\" (1972).\nThere was also a Italain version of \"The Seven Samurai\" called The Seven Magnificent Gladiators\" (1983), plus a television series that lasted from 1998-2000; therefore, a video game based on the original film, would hardly seem out of place.','171cdd735416fff3b93fe2ac0e293303',0,'','qBH8jpiU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1842,446,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041766725,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Is this good news or bad news?','As a serious gamer (not the same as video game geek), I would definitely check it out, though it\'s dissapointing to kno 99.9% of the people who play it will never know the original source.','b7bba77ee64cd5316b72da7da73d8487',0,'','bLDBZ2Ei',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1843,447,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039417212,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cinedictum','Filming in Uzbekistan','Hi,\n\nIt\'s Shavkat here (from Cinedictum Films).\n\nMaybe, you could be interested in this my information below:\n\nI made a little research here and it\'s turned out that a normal indie feature film would cost from 700.000,00$ to 3 millions dollars if produced in the USA.\n \nAs it comes to producing a feature film in Tashkent, Uzbekistan (my home country) - it will cost less than 400.000,00$ including bringing in main actors and crew from the States (and possibly some equipment, if needed). The quality is very high, both technical and creative. It\'s actually can be done like a big-budget movie shot on 35-mm film with thousands of people in it, for comparably little money. \n\nThe story might be something that can be filmed in Uzbekistan (like Adventures of American guy/girl/guys in Uzbekistan/another planet/fairy-tale place or wherever else; or a fantasy; or oriental; or medieval movie; or anything else that can be shot totally or partially in my country.) Actually, you can make absolutely any kind of film in Uzbekistan. There are all possible geographic locations and also people of any ethnic appearance.\n\nRight now I am looking for American Producer or a Production Company (with finances), who could be interested in my opportunities. I am also willing to finance the project partially by myself.\n\nTo find out more, please go to: www.cinedictum.com/other/shoot/main.phtml\n\nWhat do you think?\n\nI live in DC area, so if it\'s not far from you - we can meet to talk all details if you are interested in filming in Uzbekistan.\n\nBest regards,\nShavkat\n','58031d4ab2b9ac4bf7518b3fa445926d',0,'','fxkQezhj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1844,448,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039636323,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Has anyone seen \"Merci Pour Le Chocolat\"?','Just to show you how slow Denver is in receiving new foreign films, this film comes out next month. Claude Chabrol has always been my least favorite of the \" French new wave\" directors of the 60\'s, but is it any good?','5f3e91784249e79d8b6a08e5aa7e1425',0,'','26rQdEgL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1845,448,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042258144,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Has anyone seen \"Merci Pour Le Chocolat\"?','If you adore Isabelle Huppert as i do then it is a superb film if not,Forget it.I Gave it a 6 out of 10 Huppert is Superb as ever but of the Chabrol Collaborations go (Non )\nIsabelle Huppert would look superb dressed in a pair of Zoo Keepers Boots and a Boiler suit.I Suggest you watch Comedie de L`Innocence I Loved this film you really have to think throughout this film and Huppert is stunning again,as ever.','02a927780ef721e01e232566c153f8b4',0,'','xqt8crXl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1846,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039648093,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mrodriguez4','Films from Latin America & Spain','Discussion about films from spanish speaking countries','209cb88edc03715caac58f211af9a9e2',0,'','uDwdHxFS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1847,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039648197,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mrodriguez4','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','Has anyone seen movies from Argentina? In my opinion, some are quite good. For Example; Man Facing Southeast (Hombre mirando al sureste), The son of the bride (El hijo de la Novia), 8 Queens (8 Reynas), Herencia etc.\n\nSome movies from Spain are interesting.\n\nI\'m interested on hearing feedback if anyone seen these movies.','826c8fc4de10e60ee99ccdbed1800796',0,'','U1mY62bx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1848,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040049084,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','ah yes this year I have discovered argentinian cinema, I loved ; La Fuga, Nueve Reinas, El Hijo De La Novia and El faro Del Sur...all with Ricardo darin as a lead actor, this guy it\'s every where!!\n\nanother quiet good is \'El Mismo Amor, la Misma Lluvia\'..\n\nAs Spaniish films this year the best i have seen are:\n\n1- talk To Her\n\n2- Los Lunes Al Sol\n\n3- Lucia Y El Sexo\n\n4- Al Otro Lado De La Cama\n\n5- Dias Contados\n\n6- Smoking Room\n\nbut all the films by Julio Medem, Alejandro Amenabar, Pedro Almodovar, David Trueba and lately Fernando Leon De Aranoa are awesome!\n\nFernando Leon De Aranoa has done; Barrio (which is superb) and Los Lunes Al Sol with Javier Bardem in one of the best roles he has ever done.','7a6d4d8f9196f42ce3d6aefedd25e47b',0,'','AUa0kfL3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1849,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040517325,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','Almodóvar and Buñuel are the great ones.','810f513bf3a6d23fc3a1672fb3f75750',0,'','vRpmYMUF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1850,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041812630,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jvasquez1970','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','Buñuel being \'the\' greatest.  \n2nd is Carlos Saura and then Almodovar.','cd3b9cbb342f608a4f01b7fa11b087fa',0,'','B3sGWHZf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1851,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041932686,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I agree that Almadovar is the greatest Spanish director since Bunuel. Don\'t forget Manuel De Olivieria (currently the oldest working director in the world and set the world record for directing his last film at the ripe age of 90 years old). Probably the greatest Portuguese director.','e98e9ed2723fae7674e2ad4ef2570376',0,'','QEts0iW5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1852,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042187314,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','De Oliviera is a master!','4a8c262f31d533054a022fe2e509d57b',0,'','2VCgQD1B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1853,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043745048,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','Am I crazy, or am I the only person who didn\'t like \"El Crimen De Padre Amaro\"? I thought it was a lurid, over-the-top melodrama that really had nothing to say, and was not nearly as poignant or emotional as \"Y Tu...\"','db9a921972ef40e7c265aa256de54907',0,'','LhCJKDjl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1854,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044106988,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I haven\'t seen it , but I heard it\'s rather bland film, of course it makes more impact in countries where catholicism still very much the religion. I really like Gael Garcia Bernal as an actor, but I am totally put off by this new film \n\n:(','f07852a50d00d4a14fe724e15b639bd3',0,'','lpamyA72',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1855,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064094431,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I’ve only seen [b]” El hijo de la Novia”[/b] (“Son of the bride”) from Argentina.  \n\n[b]\"El Crimen De Padre Amaro\"[/b] (The crime of father Amaro) disappointed me.  I felt it lacked ‘heart’.  Well acted but just not brilliant.  \n\nI loved [b]El Mariachi”“Sex y Lucia”, “Amores Perros” & “Y tu mama tambien”[/b].\n\nI felt that [b]“Abre los ojos”[/b] was much better than “Open your eyes” but it wasn’t brilliant. ','80d05a4932b2ba69c72b9ed7a71bba5a',0,'','ztgcBZUx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1856,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064130721,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I am from a Catholic country, but El Crimen del Padre Amaro wasn\'t that brilliant or controversial either, at leat for me.  It\'s an old story here; but I\'m not sure if it\'s the same in Mexico.  Well-acted, yes, but again, the plot is so mundane.  You don\'t feel for any of those characters.  I think Y tu mama tambien is overrated also; it\'s good, but not awesome.  So there were some political issues tackled in passing, but still only in passing.  It\'s a teenage soft porn road movie with Mexican actors.  I\'m wondering if they cast American actors if it would have the same effect...probably not.   ','ba3e8b7d33c6a295d9194a6527f84848',0,'','pfYWsDEc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1857,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064149949,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mrodriguez4','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I also felt disappointed by \"y tu mama tambien\"  The story was not that engaging for me.  I kept questioning the meaning of some of the off camera narrator´s stories.\n\nRia:\n\n   Did you mean \"Abre los Ojos\", which is the same as \"Open your eyes\", the Spanish version was better than \"Vanilla sky\" the American version with Tom Cruse?  If that is what you meant, I agree 100%.\n\nMiguel\n','8044ec4053b4f464440da0899aed6b81',0,'','ax15dZrP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1858,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064153697,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','\nOps, shouldn\'t post so much late at night.\n\nOf course, you are correct, I mean [b]Abre los ojos”[/b] was [u]much[/u] better than [i]“Vanilla Sky”[/i] although I didn\'t think it was brilliant.\n\nI also forgot to say that I totally love  [b]\"El hijo de la Novia”[/b] (“Son of the bride”).','45fe3104e39c8a9f79057c0cf20bdb0d',0,'','AmigSzfh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1859,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064182454,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mrodriguez4','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','That´s OK, it always happens to me as well.  I loved \"Son of the Bride\" as well.  It bring emotions out of you, joy, sadness, happiness etc. you almost want to cry in some scenes.  I watched it with a few relative and they experience the same emotions.\n\nMay I suggest another Argentinean movie, if you have not seen it yet, \"Nine Queens\"  It is a very good movie, quite different than \"Son of the Bride\" in that is a story of con artists Conning each other.  But it is quite good.\n\nMiguel\n','4dd58794d987a94ec4bf1f1bdb75fa3f',0,'','qGu7zURa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1860,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064783634,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dixie','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I find that Spanish filmakers tend to have passionate, colorful characters . Great films by contemporary filmmakers, Amores Perros (dir. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu), All About My Mother (Almadovar) and  Our Lady of the Assasins (Barbet Schroeder), are three off the top of my head.\nLuis Bunuel\'s films are true works of art and I have seen every one I could get my hands on. Favorites are: Nazarin,\nLos Olvidados and Viridiana.','299d9d73231c80ca76bf7f58186b4243',0,'','5xG4aAQ8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1861,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065106858,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jasjesbe','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','You have forgotten two films highly considered among Spaniards: the first one is [b]El viaje a ninguna parte[/b] ([i]Voyage to nowhere[/i]), a film acted and directed by Fernando Fernán Gómez, the highest rated actor in Spain; the other is [b]La caza[/b] ([i]The hunt[/i]), the best movie of Carlos Saura and, imho, the best film in Spanish cinematography.\n\nI would like to remember you too that, in Spain, Pedro Almodóvar is a director worshiped by half the public and hated for the other half. What can be said for sure is that his movies always are controversial.\n\nTwo other interesting movies in Spanish language are [b]Fresa y chocolate[/b] ([i]Strawberry & Chocolate[/i]), from Cuban director Tomás Gutiérrez Alea and [b]La frontera[/b] ([i]The frontier[/i]), by Ricardo P. Larrain.','18f3e9904e1d1152a4923c599f5b1c47',0,'','Ze70qCMl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1862,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065143898,1,0,1,1,1,1,'felipejuanfroilan','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','Just for those who are a bit more interested in Spanish directors that aren´t Buñuel or Almodóvar.\n\nLUIS GARCÍA BERLANGA: similar to Italian directors from the late fifties like Ferreri, Germi ou Monicelli.\n\nPlácido - 1961\nEl Verdugo (The executioner) - 1963\n\nVICTOR ERICE - Author of not religious but spiritual films, technically high-elaborated.\n\nEl Espíritu de la Colmena - 1973\nEl Sur (The south)        - 1983\n\nMARIO CAMUS: Author of \"Los Santos Inocentes\" (The Holy Innocents) - 1984 -, in some ways similar to that film of E. Olmi about countrymen.\n\nCARLOS SAURA: He won many prizes in Berlin during the seventies, but sorry, I haven\'t seen any of his films.\n','ae324e523c1b8e0e63cab2ace598d8dd',0,'','Jtqk0Kbm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1863,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065451180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I liked Julio Medem\'s Lovers of the Arctic Circle.  I liked it, but I wouldn\'t call it a masterpiece.  It could be a \'guilty pleasure\' film...it\'s a love story about coincidences.  Just nicely made, funny at some parts.  It made me like Fele Martinez, the guy who plays Otto.','da5424189a8b9832f6ae0f8152830af9',0,'','VFq5efEi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1864,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066746611,1,0,1,1,1,1,'christopherbaggins','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','a couple good, lighter spanish films i\'ve seen recently are \"Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down\" by Almaldovar and \"Jamon,Jamon\". Watch the second with caution its humor may not be universally funny but I found it enjoyable.','69e3486b95303252e21d4b1e8e1f036a',0,'','BpoYk6nJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1865,449,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066922444,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Films from Latin America & Spain','I also recently watched Martin Hache.  I enjoyed the repartee and great acting from Cecilia Roth.  And I can relate to that whole drug thing...just that the conversations seem so real and candid, some parts, they just didn\'t seem to be acting...','7d79f317b2db4af6ad240bff990cc462',0,'','YenwQzhk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1866,450,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039693306,1,0,1,1,1,1,'warrior_of_bushido','The Zen Scrolls','An indie/student film about a young samurai warrior.. We are currently in production and would (for the looong essay we have to write for our tutor)love feedback.. The site for the project is at http://www.angelfire.com/film/zenscrolls. ','2536b5f9e93133661ffce625a6e0c7d2',0,'','n6udEvgr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1867,450,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039705570,1,0,1,1,1,1,'trent-1','Re: The Zen Scrolls','http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=139322','cf474f59aa5ea37a15497ddb265d7058',0,'','Lz8DVs6g',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1868,450,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039708624,1,0,1,1,1,1,'warrior_of_bushido','Re: The Zen Scrolls','And the relation of this website to my film is what? My sites nothing to do with gangsters or thugs..... Please explain...','836b8759bdb2fce3f1a339c7793735b9',0,'','ydB4Fh8E',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1869,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039750451,1,0,1,1,1,1,'PWPeeker','It may just be me... but I think that france is great','Does anyone here agree with me that franc makes better foreigne films? Eh... while I\'m here... check out this record company: www.pumpkineaterrecords.com','8171b2d13ab6af44e407411b6d7d7a74',0,'','Gv98sKiE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1870,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039808798,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','I\'ve made this point several times before, so I\'m wasting my breath, but I think it\'s pointless classing films by country, as there is so much variation even in a single nation\'s cinematic output.\n\nHaving said this, there is something very special to me about the films of Malle and Truffaut in particular, not to mention earlier directors. For me, however, films like Diva, which place style over substance, are disappointing - not what I would term traditionally \'French\' films.\n\nBut I\'m sure others have different views - we all love foreign films, but we also have widely different tastes. Perhaps that\'s what\'s so special about this site.','cc33195c2875d5acd3e4714c347c73db',0,'','WY327nqH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1871,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1039846662,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','Amen!','1d3c070361c2aabb5ead0868930c79fb',0,'','l1wxe3CE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1872,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040049247,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','\'The Closet\' and \'Dinner Du Cons\' are the best comedies I have seen from France lately, Gerard Depardieu it\'s great!, I also liked \'Amerie\' and \'Delicatessen\' from Jean Pierre Jeaunet. I loved \'Taxi\' and \'Taxi 2\', Marius Et jeanette\', \'La Fille Suer Le Pond\' and I am waiting to see \'8 woman\' this xmas!\n\nOh La Laaa !\n\n&;','dc9656aa897bcde74a09bf595acab517',0,'','lqRgNmz5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1873,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040484147,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','I think that, in all forms of art, France has been consistently excellent.  However the greatest achievements of Germany, Italy or Ireland surpass French art - Goethe, the Renaissance, Joyce, etc.  Maybe this is because in France there always seem to be schools, or collectives, of artists, eg. symbolism in poetry or nouvelle vague in cinema.  The greatest artists of other countries seem to be more isolated and able to rise above and out of the group - Picasso out of cubism, etc.  Perhaps this is the same in filmmaking.','d932fe53b3f4b0c280176ca01685f49d',0,'','GFxNW6Dg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1874,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040498213,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','Oooh, this is turning into a hot potato...I think you can\'t dismiss schools and collectives as a principally French thing. What about the Old and New German Schools in 19th century classical music (i.e. Brahms vs Wagner) or New German Cinema. What about the Late Romantic literary movement in Germany - Mann etc.\n\nAnd of course there are individuals in each country - nobody ever made films quite like Jean Vigo for instance - even Jacques Demy had his own style.\n\nI\'m not trying to start an argument (I\'m probably not qualified) but just trying to throw a spanner in the works.\n\nBy the by, I don\'t know a great deal about Italian visual art, but Italian cinema is largely wasted on me, and much Italian music seems to me too superficial (even Scarlatti and Verdi, whom among others I admire, focus on the surface of the product more than composers from other countries - or is this just another generalisation? Answers on a postcard.).','9e3b6a518f1c5a43c872f3653574b3f0',0,'','1i39ryWt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1875,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040517099,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','Speaking of French films, \"Wasabi\" came out in San Diego.  I\'m probably going to see in later on this week.','e47cb710a0a5b752faa00df8047b28c7',0,'','B2RL5zyN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1876,451,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041092886,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: It may just be me... but I think that france is great','Yes, I see what you mean Gaz, perhaps I was being more than a little rash.  Of course the prime examples would be the Athens school and the Italian Renaissance.  I must modify my idea a little - Caravaggio, Velasquez, Vermeer are my favourite painters but Raphael?  He was the Renaissance; there was no need for an \'overcoming\' of it.  That is why the Renaissance was the highest achievement of man - it revealed art and concealed the artist.  ','b975ad5f323d6f34f86a84dff0465b64',0,'','HMbDhwLf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1877,452,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040050102,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Divine Intervention','I saw a clip of this film that won in San Sebastain Film festival (spain) and The Europena Film Awards 2002 by Luleima (Palestine) and it looks trully impressive... I am glad he approaches the palestine situation with black sense of humour with influenves by Jacques Tati among other film makers with long shots and no close ups.\n\nAnd happy that through cinema it\'s able to transmit a more creative side to the conflict, I am just hoping he will have an easy way to make his film wihtout politic interfiering his work. And even more happy that he has been praised all over the worl with his films.\n\nThe clip it\'s only 10 seconds but if you get a chance to see it On The Internet Movie Database have a look! It won\'t leave you cold that\'s for sure!','4af82106a0514b309996817dbf25fc87',0,'','8s2mva1d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1878,453,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040240080,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smelliecatus','Weird on the web..','This could be the weirdest site on the web\n\n\nhttp://www.moeskoisland.com','b2f5b809f4524a3c4b5fc0e63ef459c1',0,'','MHuaX2yB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1879,453,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040284187,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Weird on the web..','I don\'t get it. It\'s obviously for the film the ring (which I didn\'t like, I hope the original is better) but is it an add for it? it doesn\'t make much sense','8e916ccdd52a9504d1c181e62ba0188c',0,'','qgpa3w1y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1880,454,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040335232,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','The Midnight Express: Use of cinema and art for racism !','can any one explain me why do some film-makers use cinema or other form of art to make a propaganda or racism against a nation,country,groups...? Is it fair ? is it acceptable ?','d4b1a7ad90610907289d41fc27d2ba6a',0,'','co9DLJPh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1881,454,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040347604,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: The Midnight Express: Use of cinema and art for racism !','In theory it sounds a repellent idea, but can you give any specific examples? I can\'t find any films in my mind to relate to the subject.','7efd6a83578a3c83626fee967de328bd',0,'','2i5HLxFA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1882,454,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040483715,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: The Midnight Express: Use of cinema and art for racism !','I think that it is more common in television than it is in cinema.  There it hides under the guise of comedy.','79e0333c804a34b52de699ad49cafd01',0,'','s6haRykJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1883,454,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040557906,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Curt46n2','Re: The Midnight Express: Use of cinema and art for racism !','This is a good question.  I think the most simple answer is \"because they can.\"  It is perfectly fair and acceptable for a filmmaker to insert their own ideas into a film.  Whether or not you agree with what they have to say, they have a right to say it.  A lot of movies are thought of as offensive because of their sexual content or they express an idea that is out of normal moral boundaries.  I\'m not trying to endorse any kind of racism here, but you have to realize that not every country is like America.  We look down on racism here, but other countries do not.  One thing about watching movies from another country is that you are getting an insight into another culture, and that insight does not necessarily have to be a positive one.','0f6db3b123a22f721580403f7bbfc196',0,'','gQxPsiaT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1884,455,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040338181,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madnero','The Starmaker','Has anyone seen this Italian film? I\'ve seen it twice and think it is brilliant. One of my friends disagrees and says its presents a too simplistic view of Sicily and its people.','6db2667710b3a734982c54b062d81122',0,'','bZ3C8gvx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1885,456,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040823920,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhacker14','i need the name of a movie, russian movie ww2, child mom and BF etc','im look for a movie a saw on the starz channel. its about a child and his mother and his mother find a boyfriend whos a ww2 russian solder. at one point he told the child he was stalins son. well the solder turns out to be a bad apple. he starts to steal from people and make the family move from place to place and he exploits them. well he gets arrested at sum point and the child is stuck with his mother. and while the man is in jail his mother get sick and dies and the child has to survive on his own. well when the child is all grown up he find the man who he began to love and the man barely remember him and the kid is heart broken! well that what i remember folks any help would be so great! please email me or post message if you know the name of hte movie !','e882bf523e4ce23402cdd0503a52c589',0,'','6V5et8md',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1886,456,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040876466,1,0,1,1,1,1,'iceomat','Re: i need the name of a movie, russian movie ww2, child mom and BF etc','I think it must be \"The Thief\" from 1997. It\'s in the database. Russian title is \"Vor.\"','8b14cf819022bdf855c73bbd99e549f9',0,'','LpyuPjM6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1887,456,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040909207,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhacker14','Re: i need the name of a movie, russian movie ww2, child mom and BF etc','THANK YOU SO MUCH HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU !','21a3a35dd6c87b00704f352b228cfb19',0,'','JL1Rfo5r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1888,457,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040939382,1,0,1,1,1,1,'madhacker14','Really freaky movie but good i need the name so bad !','i seen this movie about this lady with a baby and she lives in this very rural area. she lived there with her husband. well her husband was away for a while, buisness trip i think. and one day this hiker start camping by her house and the lady starts to talk to her and they become friends. well the lady started to like her a lot and started to get really crazy. i dont remember much just that at one point, and this is graphic people, she put a tooth brush in a toilet bowl full of poo! and they were in a beach and started to have sex with people in the woods. in the end of the movie the lady kill the owner of hte house and has her body tied up in the tent out side of the house and the husband finds it! and she ran away with the baby and they were on a boat at the end of the movie. it was a really good movie and i recamend to every one if i can get the name of it, any help is cool. i think it might have been french too !','78928826032149deeee23c81d9cb5a2f',0,'','9NwQEnWl',1,0,'',0,0,0);
INSERT INTO `phpbb_posts` VALUES (1889,457,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040947187,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jdcopp','Re: Really freaky movie but good i need the name so bad !','It sounds like Francois Ozon\'s \" Regarde la Mer \" ( \" See the Sea \" ). Especially if it was relatively short -- a little less than an hour.','a52fd08b0798d0230acefec6fc2d16ec',0,'','Le4WRYoz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1890,457,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1040952585,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Really freaky movie but good i need the name so bad !','\"see the sea\" is definately the film i taped it off tv last year it is very disturbing film which i love. cheers','cd70aa87af04715ceb31d498be35348e',0,'','UFcg7HQk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1891,457,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041932210,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Really freaky movie but good i need the name so bad !','I can\'t believe that same man made \"8 Femmes\"!','ab4bf9c2944507c9951bbcf06ba388de',0,'','FQ0aG3Aq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1892,457,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042188023,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Really freaky movie but good i need the name so bad !','Ozon is a very interesting director i love \"under the sand\"\nwith the underrated charlotte rampling.see the sea always seems to polarise people but i think it\'s great all the same.','486e2cdc8df57a5be0d1f8df8c201386',0,'','q69KQxT5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1893,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041058967,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx','Finest Actress','To get totally off the subject of pretentious talk about art in film and merits of the films of Bresson or Pasolini, I decided to appeal to the male sexist with this one.  Not necessarily asking who the finest actress is in terms of talent, which they may be one in the same, but purely in terms of looks.  \nAs far as today\'s leading actresses in the foreign world I would go with Audrey Tutou and Gong Li.  On the all time list though Catherine Deneuve and of course Bardot would be up there.  Let me know your thoughts.','845b4f616cfc4e5b5611afac01a9cbd7',0,'','Q1gUPaLu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1894,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041084494,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actress','Puerile subject, but two words - Julie Christie.','cd6c0e07b95fa6bf887422f1c24d7572',0,'','3T5tPmJN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1895,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041091870,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Finest Actress','Jean Seberg, Anna Karina, Catherine Deneuve, etc.  I liked Holly Vallance in Neighbours.','f22615d9355278ec6dad3ca8ded8e03e',0,'','TSoVqhbx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1896,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041139159,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patsfan86','Re: Finest Actress','SOPHIA LOREN!!!!!!!!!!!  Silvana Mangano and Tatiana Samoilova run a close 2nd and 3rd. ','33b3de8129b3470ed01c1d56365a2100',0,'','bJqdwZDg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1897,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041233460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Finest Actress','Harriet Andersson.\nIsabelle Huppert.\nBibi Andersson.','9579519ecf4b531ba7215cdcf196b668',0,'','AS09QVLw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1898,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041301186,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jdcopp','Re: Finest Actress','Emmanuelle Beart','b681a2d816baf5cb6838475225e0719b',0,'','F1m8Squs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1899,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041508965,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Finest Actress','Was she the one who played the maid in Ozon\'s \"Eight Women\"? Ohhhh yeah...also, the girl with the big juggs from \"La Dolce Vita\", i forget her name. The celeb who the paparazzi follows, with the blonde hair. NICE.','b78a05e2a52a7b662c3498a29e4a796a',0,'','l3BqwtdV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1900,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041696309,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Finest Actress','I believe that would be Anita Ekberg','73c2d159d937c71594ba0645bd662429',0,'','dk4803Su',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1901,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041697110,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Finest Actress','Very pleased to see Harriet Andersson mentioned.','9366b444eb9657a230397d0588e76a91',0,'','vMpiATwt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1902,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041812355,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jvasquez1970','Re: Finest Actress','Hahaha !!  Bibi Anderson is a GUY turned woman...a transvestite...hahaha !','d102eeab8f9e03d90eba8dec64fc6411',0,'','gqnFQryu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1903,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041819723,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Finest Actress','I do not know where you got your information, maybe your confusing her with someone else. Bibi Andersson was born a woman not a man. Get your #@#t together!','3b29d6ab5b60329a791f4f6982e40911',0,'','cXyKuSv7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1904,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041820118,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Finest Actress','You are actually thinking of Bibi Andersen. Very different people and spelling of last NAME. I am talking of Bibi Andersson, Swedish actress who stared in many of Ingmar Bergman\'s films. Most know in the film \"Persona\"\n','87f3a198e8ab15f5522f436456d420ce',0,'','JFl5vBQw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1905,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042415732,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Finest Actress','is this a piss take--Cretins\n\nThere is Only One ISABELLE HUPPERT','a1f4aa502f63f33c30ee5338d6d4dcad',0,'','7y9ixBFD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1906,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045576344,1,0,1,1,1,1,'natrev','Re: Finest Actress','Just thought I\'d add a female slant on this. No Nastassja KInski?! Catherine Keener definitely deserves a mention.','bb16395b7ad228e68375e1d95c46ea78',0,'','URDxeZkW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1907,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045658308,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Finest Actress','The Bibí Andersen who used to be a man has been in a few selected Almodóvar, and even more Almodóvar rip-offs.  The Bibi Andersson who deserves inclusion here starred in many of Bergman\'s films.  One actress I\'m surprised hasn\'t been mentioned is Liv Ullman.  As for American actresses working today, Meryl Streep.  And I second (though she\'s been mentioned several times) the inclusion of Isabelle Huppert.','9e8e4ab6b0d4ca8554b66322766adba0',0,'','oTlJfu7S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1908,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045658458,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Finest Actress','Wow, that would have helped if I would have read the first post... we\'re talking about looks.  Well, I wouldn\'t cross off Huppert, a young Andersson, Ullman, or Streep... but that wasn\'t my intention of the last post.','7b75f2aefe4b348fd0d1c749d0059c8a',0,'','BkXm9lx7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1909,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045712874,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eldalieva','Re: Finest Actress','Nastassja Kinski, as said in \"maria´s lovers\": she´s an angel ','4fe8ab94229a3b382b10f2ba80f86444',0,'','6n2xpgqZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1910,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046293513,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Finest Actress','ISABELLE HUPPERT and FANNY ARDANT!  Gorgeous!  Okay, and everyone else who is in 8 FEMMES.  And Capucine, she was very beautiful as well.','b79858e929c17fa8b649c147fa11952f',0,'','Y5qHCbX8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1911,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046542952,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Finest Actress','well i was going to ask this :(\nhere is my list:\nHolly Hunter--- in The Piano\nAudrey Tauto-- in Amelie\nEllyn Bursteyn-- in Requem For A Dream\nTürkan Soray-- in The Return\nJulliet Binochet-- in English Patient,Chocolate,Alice and                Martin,Unbearabla Lightness of Being\nNicole Kidman-- in The Others\nYelda Reynaud-- in The Sore\nDiane Lane-- in Unfaithfull\nMeryl Streep-- in Kramer vs Kramer,French Liuetnant\'s Woman','2ac1d545710c8a1cc4618c74a77ea9a6',0,'','ZWyElRU3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1912,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046553070,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Finest Actress','I like Marisa Paredes (in every film she has done), Pilar Bardem, Victoria Abril in Amantes and Tie Me Up Tie Me Down, Catherine Deneuve in her Bunuel films, Geraldine Chaplin in Cria Cuervos (Saura) and La Ciudad Sin Limites, Penelope Cruz in All About My Mother, Jeanne Moureau in Jules At Jim and Les Amantes, Juliette Bincho in Blue, Nathalie Baye in everything she has done.\n\nAva Gardner, Bette Davis and all the classinc actresses like Ingris Bergman and Lana Turner.','62d061084f023d11534eac8b3d36fbbf',0,'','pbQCytxn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1913,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046662635,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Finest Actress','Romy Schneider\nDominique Sanda\nSenta Berger\nBrigitte Bardot\nAnouk Aimee\n','c7ad24a9bbfef01a748e31478cfc3a6c',0,'','5GSVuC0f',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1914,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046663781,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Finest Actress','Moreau,vitti,magnani,lilian gish,audran,gong li,deneuve,& the vastly under-rated louise brooks her performance in \"pandora\'s box\" must be the sexiest in cinema!','266ecdfd83a95e1a1c48e88bd5e97e2a',0,'','ptDyQ0Ab',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1915,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047046779,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HekateMistress','Re: Finest Actress','I could go on forever...\n\nJuliette Binoche, Bibi Andersson, Liv Ullman, Harriet Anderson, Gong Li, Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh, Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Catherine Deneuve, Brigitte Bardot, Maggie Cheung, Béatrice Dalle, Holly Hunter, Sophia Loren, Najwa Nimri, Élodie Bouchez, Fanny Ardant, Cate Blanchett, Meryl Streep, Faye Dunaway, Gena Rowlands, Sharon Stone, Toni Collette, Barbara Stanwyck, Nicole Kidman, Audrey Tautou, Virginie Ledoyen, Assumpta Serna, Cecilia Roth, Gina Gershon, Indira Varma, Romane Bohringer, Lena Olin, Penélope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Sherilyn Fenn, Naomi Watts, Sheryl Lee, Angelina Jolie, Grace Kelly, Nastassja Kinski, Molly Parker, Emmanuelle Béart, Kim Novak, Thandie Newton, Rachel Griffiths, Sylvia Kristel, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Helen Mirren, Helena Bonham Carter, Kate Winslet, Christina Ricci, Greta Garbo, Isabella Rossillini, Jennifer Connelly, Asia Argento, Renée Soutendijk, Iben Hjejle, Diane Lane, Soledad Miranda, Rose McGowan [actress may not be the right word for her however], Jennifer Tilly, Fairuza Balk, Joan Chen, Mia Kirshner, Uma Thurman, Patricia Arquette, Paz Vega, Milla Jovovich, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Carole Bouquet, Franka Potente, Tilda Swinton, Charlotte Rampling, Roxane Mesquida, Vivian Wu, Miranda Richardson, Arsinée Khanjian, Polly Walker, Tilda Swinton, the list goes on.\n\nI\'m going to stop now.','0ebed69640f9eb51205043d682ddb199',0,'','rEYSGsR2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1916,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047355330,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tludy','Re: Finest Actress','Irene Jacob\nIsabelle Adjani\nMonica Belucci\nAudrey Tatou\n\n','a0f4a0e0c7c6cfb4a9f96655ed3279f4',0,'','EFZncCtf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1917,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047564493,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Finest Actress','You mention Juliette Binoche in The Unbearable Lightness of Being, yet omit Lena Olin??','dfbb771811455d6291be38fa6e13a156',0,'','5zpyBnc8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1918,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049677964,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Finest Actress','There is Only 1 Isa Huppert','d42906c75c7be557a715d27a8f9906de',0,'','YluBNfWn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1919,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051576630,1,0,1,1,1,1,'sntmcd','Re: Finest Actress','Without a doubt.....\n\nGong Li!','8b07e318f617bca4bf3f07bb75b06473',0,'','gWkR7xd6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1920,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051620644,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: Finest Actress','Elodie Bouchez, Gina Lollobrigida, Erika Marozsan, Isabelle Adjani, Emmanuelle Béart','9fd6027ef8bf5999f6f231cc515c7d70',0,'','zkevijNd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1921,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052770161,1,0,1,1,1,1,'snazrul','Re: Finest Actress','Adding just few names I haven\'t seen in the list so far.\nAudrey Hepburn [Roman Holiday, Subrina, Children\'s hour]\nIngrid Bergman [Casablanca, Anastasia, Gaslight]\nShormila Tagore [Devi, Apur Sansar, Aranyer Din Ratri]\nJoan Fontaine [Rebecca]\nGrace Kelly [Rear Window, Dial M for Murder]\n\n\n','b95f86b4d248873c8e070de609116002',0,'','Ecqb5mGr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1922,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052987371,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Lex Luthor','Re: Finest Actress','Juliette Binoche - specially in Kieslowski\'s Blue and Louis Malle\'s Damage\nGong Li - in everything she\'s done','01d1eb46848f0c1994148889f93a2c7b',0,'','irxQd4Fj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1923,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053142342,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Finest Actress','Gong Li\nFranka Potente','e1f4852d549306a70b79effe729e1f57',0,'','c9UvSZMk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1924,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053457150,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: Finest Actress','Isabelle Huppert most definitely a brilliant actress!  Any one see The Piano Teacher.  She is amazing. Elevates the profession to new grounds.\n\nNastasia Kinsky is pretty light weight. She\'s got too many mannerisms and is pretty flighty.  Polansky got a good performance out of her when she was young in Tess, only a few moments, really','85ee1a72ec0ecfd49005717617cd9b33',0,'','yX6UsbPe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1925,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053524541,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: Finest Actress','For the actress with ultimate looks (more than, but not excluding, ability) I\'m willing to pass on the crown from Isabelle Adjani to Monica Bellucci.','9a8cc27019e1263079df30995a483968',0,'','QvSTLcdy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1926,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053566750,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actress','I always thought there was something cute about Chloe Sevigny, especially in Kids. But then I like girls with short hair.','322475021bd4e123743fdcf7678fd991',0,'','QDkNnZaT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1927,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054344363,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Macheath','Re: Finest Actress','Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Arthur, Catherine Deneuve, Jeanne Moreau, Ingrid Bergman, Emma Thompson, Gene Tierney, Myrna Loy, Julie Christie.  Oooh, bay-beh.','c7aa8b5a90b48fa0e164a2c3771d18cc',0,'','rHuiC4VB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1928,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054570404,1,0,1,1,1,1,'leaczi','Re: Finest Actress','I\'m siding with the Julliet Binochet and Gong Li fans','15d18059e61957d8f5e708fe6b652bda',0,'','czTn1NVg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1929,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054695633,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pavicevic_d','Re: Finest Actress','Acting I think has nothing to do with looks, if you want looks then you should rent a Playboy video','406b4cacdb2242e929bef124c465ce52',0,'','bUxD8R9t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1930,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054731646,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actress','How true that is.\n\nAnd let\'s not forget Maribel Verdu - she was very sensual in Y Tu Mama Tambien.','9501d8fe06f4eaaf86c2f818e921c750',0,'','Eu7j86Nx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1931,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056396844,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Finest Actress','Elodie Bouchez\nFranka Potente\nPenélope Cruz\nAudrey Tatou','7bf951b587b63ac989d3fc131bffcf72',0,'','mlv2Xcuq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1932,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056589264,1,0,1,1,1,1,'conduffj7','Re: Finest Actress','Sherilyn Fenn','5f8a453b3c02a6157832b26c8033c364',0,'','pEqgxdFY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1933,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057797197,1,0,1,1,1,1,'asia_bebe','Re: Finest Actress','THEIR IS ALWAYS one Person I would FOREVER PUT AS BEST ACTRESS and that would BE :\n\nBRIGITTE LIN CHIN HSAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\n\nHER MOVIEs are the BEST AND ONE OF HONGKONG BEST EX-ACTRESS\ngosh SHE STARS In like about 100 MOVIES !!!!!! I AM A BIG BIG FAN OF HERS and sTILL is, even tho she retire for the ent. industry but, it\'s all GOOD!\ncheck out my site for Lin at:\n\nhttp://geocities.com/lin_brigitte/\n\nwell here is my list //////&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;//////\n\n1: Brigitte Lin Chin Hsai\n2: Michelle Yeoh\n3: Gong Li\n4: Maggie Chung\n5: Zhang Ziyi\n6: Joey Wang','7c5ac9e73f588730606413d4a0981cbe',0,'','rSV1ANKm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1934,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057998684,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tijbc78','Re: Finest Actress','I think you are asking about the finest actress, not who looks better or who\'s more popular,some of these people are in the wrong board.  ','ce1d3920a2468cd435b04d95d6e3c8da',0,'','yeSTvGFr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1935,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068936519,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx1','Re: Finest Actress','Just to add one more.  I just saw The Road Home, again and was completely mesmerized by Zhang Ziyi.','37cc278d76335d50613b00e607fbabcf',0,'','xrT1YMc5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1936,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069000633,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mik','Re: Finest Actress','This is my list:\nMasina, Giulietta \nAimee, Anouk \nTerekhova Margarita\n','b487320986b08a3f8a40342cf72b6978',0,'','2WyMtHwR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1937,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069080170,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Finest Actress','Finally.. a retarted thread (besides that jesus one). Vivien leigh, Meg Tilly (and her sister too), Asia Argento, Helena Bonham Carter, Vampira (aka Maila Nurmi), Lisa Bonet from Cosby, Sherilyn Fenn & Joan Chen in Twin Peaks and if any personality is allowed Talullah Bankhead and Bette Davis as Baby Jane.. And the \"model-actresses\": Sybil Buck, Shalom Harlow & Eve (the bald one). & Pretty actors/wo-MAN: Pascal Greggory (in a gothic way) & Jean-Hugues Anglade (who wouldn\'t be attractive with blood coming through they\'re skin/ or as poisoned in general) in Queen Margot, Terence Stamp in Pricilla, John Cameron Mitchel as Hedwig (and off Hedwig), Raul Julia (ah-bug eyes), Tim Curry (satanic smile and bug eyes, thow I like him better heavyer) & Richard O\'brien in Rocky Horror (who wouldn\'t love a anorexic hunchback), Guy Pierce in L.A. Confidential (glasses and buck theet-ah..sweet), Alan Cumming(s?) (quirky nerdy pervert..) ..and almost forgot: Paul Reubens/Pee-Wee Herman (expecially in the mug shots).. AND if music videos count: Skin (from the girls), Jarvis Cocker (quirky and has über glasses.. (I know: life\'s just not fair boys..:-( )), Brett Andersson (before he got the same virus as the baby in the Addams family 2, Brian Molko (maybe?with long hair?/he just seems to b chuch a lovely diva bitch..) & the guy in the \"The Knife\" video (I don\'t remember the song: the albums called \"Deep Cuts\"-anybody?). Should I get my own thread here? The ugliest male: Brad Pitt -he looks like an ape! (sorry, I don\'t really think there are ugly people, except for him -yak- but hey, -some females seem to like him..) second place (it would be rude to nominate just one..): Tom Cruise -I just don\'t get it. 3: Vincent Perez -it might b just his discusting personality that shines through.. and as he can\'t keep his clothes on, it\'s just too much \"shining\". I could just go on and on and on forever.. Im sure I got all the boys attempting suicide for being so ugly.. AND ANYONE WHO THINKS HE\'S HOT ENOUGH 4 MY LIST, CAN EMAIL ME HIS PICTURE!-no nude ones, thank you very much.. (but then again Im pretty much a Libertin..) obviosly you don\'t have to b an actor.','7973eb10dcf0f8a3101a67795eee2eb3',0,'','hYUo7tAZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1938,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069080926,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Finest Actress','Arrgh... forgot: Farinelli in The Farinelli movie, \'cos I like my boys without balls (4 various reasons.. the high pitch voice for one..). ','25fcae3cac8587ff3c087ee89b202a00',0,'','cUhC1vnS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1939,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069086834,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actress','You must have the most terrible problems finding a boyfriend.','2456cb026a33c94aa7fb4ae9e8624d39',0,'','13dflLSk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1940,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069090587,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jh66','Re: Finest Actress','fanny ardant was gorgeous as Marie de Guise in ELIZABETH (2000)-even though she was 45 at the time!!!','701907627345578ef447c2e87db73a92',0,'','uyqFeEzo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1941,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069132308,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Finest Actress','Well Gaz, I suppose I would if I was to only settle for one.. (straight one).','dec10b4db39d1747551be37d8c8b6308',0,'','kGHXPEos',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1942,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069152953,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actress','A very sensible attitude. :-)','5c3508604e957e035571bdd8a7c5ad8c',0,'','vDGlSnkg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1943,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069213354,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kjandca','Re: Finest Actress','For my 2 cents. I must mention my favorite French actress: Marie-France Pisier. Being in \"The Other Side of Midnight\" (a really bad movie I\'d love to see again) probably killed her Hollywood career. Too bad, because I thought she was excellant in \"Chanel Solitaire\" and very funny in \"French Postcards\" and \"Cousin, Cousine\". I\'d love to see her in \"Celine and Julie Go Boating\" if that ever come to video. According to what I\'ve read on ome movie web pages, she still acts in French cinema as well as directs and writes screenplays. Really, I\'d love to see some of later work. \n','336fa4728d7f2ee089824f64c67876ea',0,'','NeVv0HAh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1944,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069213569,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kjandca','Re: Finest Actress','For my 2 cents. I must mention my favorite French actress: Marie-France Pisier. Being in \"The Other Side of Midnight\" (a really bad movie I\'d love to see again) probably killed her Hollywood career. Too bad, because I thought she was excellant in \"Chanel Solitaire\" and very funny in \"French Postcards\" and \"Cousin, Cousine\". I\'d love to see her in \"Celine and Julie Go Boating\" if that ever come to video. According to what I\'ve read on ome movie web pages, she still acts in French cinema as well as directs and writes screenplays. Really, I\'d love to see some of later work. \n','336fa4728d7f2ee089824f64c67876ea',0,'','cJ7Zly5b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1945,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069219411,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Finest Actress','I wouldn\'t assume she was/is interested in a \"Hollywood career\". [i]Celine and Julie[/i] is available on vhs in the US; a challenging, brilliant Rivette film. As for more recent performances, [i]Son of Gascogne, Time Regained[/i] and [i]A 100 and One Nights[/i] are available on dvd in North America.','bfe532b191e4dc03670edf90957e9326',0,'','2g7w58eA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1946,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069293685,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Finest Actress','Isabelle Huppert in \"The Piano Teacher\" is the best performance i have seen for a long while,boy is she good!','5d4cea7593f872f97e64f7686959ac6c',0,'','oKytT0rd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1947,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069438547,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manals','Re: Finest Actress','dudes - all those women are great. But check out these movies & actresses from India - and no they are not the commercial drivel promoted by the average joe shmoe!\n1. Dimple Kapadia in Lekin, Rudali, Drishti, Dil Chahta Hai\n2. Shanbana Azmi & Smita Patel in any Shyam Benegal movie.\n3. Rekha in Umrao Jaan in Astha\n4. Tabu in Chandni Bar, Sazai Kalapani, Astitva, Maachis\n5. Nandita Das in Deepa Mehta\'s Fire, Earth, Lal Salaam, Bawander, Aks\n6. Sharmila Tagore in any Gulzar or Satyajit Rai movie\n\nbut trust me on Dimple Kapadia in Lekin\n','b61bb0305932f067b6520f28217c5972',0,'','W5Ve3cGh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1948,458,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069463447,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Leo Africanus','Re: Finest Actress','France Zobda, the beautiful actress from Martinique.  Maribel Verdu from Spain is also very fine.','749d7e5c63f80e4f5a10b116e20c572e',0,'','gLp1qd7r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1949,459,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041255216,1,0,1,1,1,1,'chakij','Toshiro Mifune','Anybody would like to rate the ten best films Toshiro Mifune has acted in.....','fc1dc51d6c2945f123a2961f130429a3',0,'','TRVvaBik',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1950,459,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041769845,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Toshiro Mifune','No, but the theaters near my home are showing all the great Mifune-Kurosawa films on pristine 35mm prints on the big screen, like \"Seven Samurai\", \"High & Low\", \"Rashomon\", \"Yojimbo\", \"Sanjuro\", etc. Great stuff.','de4f62379b0d7e580b6ae1603b10794f',0,'','c8Gs3xhC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1951,459,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042188554,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Toshiro Mifune','High & Low ,Throne of Blood,Yojimbo,Sanjuro,I live in fear,Seven Samurai,Rashomon are my faves.','396d9fbf785596eeb01b674029126193',0,'','N3VK6vEU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1952,460,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041272154,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Decadence','All cinema is decadent.  Discuss...','4cc406fa5da02ceaf41b2cd3de87d1d6',0,'','vSr3Jg2K',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1953,461,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041289453,1,0,1,1,1,1,'programming','BOB Wants To Broadcast Your Shorts','BOB: Brief Original Broadcasts (www.watchbob.com) is a new television network featuring short films under 8 minutes in length. Now, BOB brings the best shorts from all over the world…comedy, drama, action and everything in between—all commercial-break-free. It’s wall-to-wall, minute-by-minute entertainment for people with more imagination than time. \nBOB’s programming selection is determined by a creative review committee that selects work based on its cultural and artistic merit.\nBOB\'s distinctive programming attracts a broad audience, including film and television industry professionals looking for emerging talent. BOB provides a unique forum for the independent filmmaking community and offers a venue for a powerful form of expression neglected in television until now. 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Toller Dr.\nLittleton, CO 80127 USA\nEmail: programming@watchbob.com\nwww.watchbob.com\n','8f27266b736d879632396a68a84197a0',0,'','4H1mdkF6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1954,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041508334,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Best foreign films of 2002','Sorry if this topic has been posted, but I figured since all the critics are making their top ten lists this week...\nthese ones are my favs:\n\nTalk to Her (Almodovar)\nThe Lady and the Duke (Rohmer)\nY Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron)\nThe Piano Teacher (Haneke)\nArtanajuarat-The Fast Runner\nIn Praise of Love (Godard)\nHappy Times (Yimou)','1c0dbaa636b40b7e17da16e21ac62198',0,'','EUBs7hXM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1955,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041619487,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Best foreign films of 2002','Most of the films you posted are from 2001, not from 2002, as a matter of fact all of them are except for Happy Times, it is from 2000.','54019b15602d5582c7bed48861f9b7fa',0,'','Yw7A6jr8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1956,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041621686,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Best foreign films of 2002','Perhaps there\'s some conflict between production dates and US release dates?','611758450afc9e5dacc4425d850d2eb9',0,'','gNQ6DtGy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1957,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041651926,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Best foreign films of 2002','that maybe the case for some of us in the states, but what about those outsides the states. I just think we should stick to the dates the film first debuted. I for one get very confused when one calls them \"Best foreign films of 2002 when in fact they were realsed a year or two earlier.','0cb9ce64d48991f3f7c67e11213f47df',0,'','lWn48QeA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1958,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041766472,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Best foreign films of 2002','True, but I was meaning along the lines of films RELEASED in the U.S., and all these films were widely released in the States this year. For example, \"Y Tu Mama Tambien\" was released and nominated for the 2001 Oscars, but released in my city (Denver) this summer. ','a7b0bb6dd0f422b3dc7e009f12b2a6ac',0,'','yUY4zAEx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1959,462,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041820911,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','Re: Best foreign films of 2002','NO, Y tu mama tambien was not nominated for a 2001 Oscar. It was never nominated for that matter. \nTell you what stick to the dates they debuted.','f268416aecbf4c9dda67187569235d35',0,'','DBg1iRQq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1960,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041697071,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Anti-Godard','I would like to know if there are any good European directors or writers who are \'anti-Godard\' - his politics especially.','19eb13efebe0ed2de5e6fbbe2f86512a',0,'','v3EMVzbo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1961,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041766603,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Anti-Godard','I\'m not quite sure what you mean...Godard is a Marxist and socialist (if there is such a thing), and most European directors from his era, I could be wrong, but I believe are also socialists. Do you mean modern filmmakers?','14f51883c150c024e53b665d5da2f2d3',0,'','rU3hmceX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1962,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041791065,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Anti-Godard','I don\'t like Godard but I think he is the greatest filmmaker.  That may sound like a paradox but I think it is like Wilde\'s epigram \'I choose my enemies for their good intellects.\'  I was wondering if there have been any filmmakers who have openly opposed Godard\'s ideas, but intelligently and not through pettiness.  I am opposed to almost everything Godard stands for but yet I enjoy watching his films and I admit the brilliance of his cinematic art.  Godard is at heart a decadent, unsurprisingly for a rich man turned socialist.  I think his jumping headfirst into Maoism and party politics is unforgivable.  ','1a054d37d835b094cd82884b80e2e0b0',0,'','ALCS4tWz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1963,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041821279,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jdcopp','Re: Anti-Godard','While it may not exactly answer your question, it is true that Truffaut had a falling out with him in the early 70s over drug use and politics and they did not speak for about the last 10 years of Truffaut\'s life. ','674d3b34544fa06a9032c8c561e93866',0,'','eEjiPc1d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1964,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041860682,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Anti-Godard','I always thought that Truffaut was a much more compassionate filmmaker than Godard.  Really Le Mepris was the turning point in my feelings for Godard.  ','4f1ea5c3cd21dbc272c33f42c1a4c607',0,'','o17UWadR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1965,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043744913,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Anti-Godard','In a biography I read on Truffaut years ago, they showed the letter Godard wrote to him, calling him a \"shithead\" and a \"style director\", but I never heard of any drug use. I thought it had started over disputes about Henri Langois\' Cinematique in Paris and Truffaut becoming a more \"mainstream\" and classical director.','df37544ddf3f47ab5c270458a504af9b',0,'','p9Dw3NWB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1966,463,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047324735,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: Anti-Godard','The only one I can think of is Claude Chabrol, my favorite french director, who always associates women, his main protagonists, with resistance and strength and rebellion.\n\nGoddard is the opposite. He proposes women to be the main upholders of bourgeoise materialims and the oppression of man, a conspiracy between God and women against man.\n\nThere\'s a story about him asking Jean Seaberg to have her character in \"Breathless\" rob her boyfriend once he\'s lying dead on the ground and take his wallet. \n\nShe refused to do it.  After all, even a simpleton would figure that an upper class female architeture student and petty theft are a bit far fetched a match.  \n\n','834121012cfde8049e28d495424cfbd9',0,'','FZbEVmpd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1967,464,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041714003,1,0,1,1,1,1,'doris2','Looking for a producer with heart for young.','\nBROKEN SOULS\n\nScreenplay for a serious minded Producer, who wishes to make a real difference in the mental well- being of our future adults.\n\nWith all the school violence and terror attacks going on in our country, and school vouchers being an issue. Many parents are choosing private schooling as a choice of education for safety reason. Private schools are going up all over our country in record numbers. What is the true message being sent to our children? As adults we all need to work together to protect our children, not only physically but mentally as well. This screenplay addresses that issue.\n\nBroken Souls by: James LaBudde is based on my true life story; The Torment&#8217;s of the Modest, Secluded Farm Life. ISBN: 1-58721-806-2. By: Doris Anne Beaulieu found at: www.1stBooks.com. \n\nAs a child in the 50&#8217;s, I went to a private school, where you are basically sheltered and protected. The trauma begins when I entered the REAL WORLD and discovered I was ill-equipped to handle it. Going to a private school totally and mentally unprepared me when adulthood came. Most parents can not see the long term affect of putting their child in private schools till it hits home in the future.\n\nThis screenplay is a working tool not only for parents who intend to place their children in private schools, but also a tool for our politicians to see, so guide lines may be imposed to protect the mental well being of our children in the process.\n\nFor a copy of the script please contact:\n\nDoris Anne Beaulieu\n43 Thomas Lane\nSmithfield, Me. 04978\ndoris2@prexar.com \n\n','484f1f8b5ae5c3fd6bf22b96f6fd9cb5',0,'','jhrqFPCD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1968,465,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041766925,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Could someone please explain \"L\'Atalante\" to me?','I am always reading how this film is such a poetic masterpiece, and I\'ve viewed it 3 times to try to really force myself to like it, and I do like it, but I cannot understand the fuss. To me, it not one of my favs, but the people who love it REALLY love it, and maybe hearing input from others could help me to appreciate it more. Personally, I find \"Zero De Conduite\" more appealing.','c95ab5115310c5353de31fc579dde2a3',0,'','6szQXc78',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1969,465,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041793631,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Could someone please explain \"L\'Atalante\" to me?','Freedom, love, dreams, travel, magic, lyricism, poetry, wisdom, originality...','76e027aea95aad1155bc31187457362f',0,'','US1ZCjuq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1970,466,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041933304,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Silent vs. Sound films','In my Film Club, some kids were having a discussion and some felt that silent films required more creativity and visual power than a sound film, and I had never heard of someone actually PREFERRING silent to sound. Many told me they felt silent films were a technological drawback until sound films (the way cinema should be appreciated they say). What do you think?\n\n\n\"Give us back our beauty\" - D.W. Griffith after the invention of sound eliminated silent cinema','11b527ab5fa69f68f390d92c0c968fb5',0,'','zuHMNnio',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1971,467,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041933999,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Golden Globe nominations - Best Foreign Film','60th Golden Globe noms:\n\nCity of God\nEl Crimen de Padre Amara\nTalk to Her (YEAH!!!)\nNowhere in Africa\nHero\nBalzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress\n\nDo you like the noms this year, and if so, which would you vote for?','198c09d709f0b1ec3663193c2d89c31d',0,'','cPLmHwu6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1972,468,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1041998341,1,0,1,1,1,1,'freewayricky17','Real Cash Fast Cash Legal Cash','PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME OUT TO READ THIS, THANK YOU!!!!\n$$$FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS AND MAKE THIS MONEY$$$$ HOW TO CHANGE SIX DOLLARS INTO THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE. IT DOES WORK AND IT&#8217;S LEGAL!!!I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. 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You can use this again and again, but you must remember that this program remains successful because of the honest and integrity of the participants.Good luck!\n\n','8fb51c5958cd3a6c51a62347604eea0c',0,'','2fpAgSTG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1973,468,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042047751,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Real Cash Fast Cash Legal Cash','Words cannot express the anger I feel.','93a629d28fd35980026a150501513068',0,'','HW3DjzaY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1974,469,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042057964,1,0,1,1,1,1,'visualdance','an american dream','hey,\nIm stuck in a tight situation trying to come through for a project. I will be brief...but you can find my story at this web address...its a means for me to prepare for my next film but its also my personal story.\n\nhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20135&item=934547172&rd=1\n\nI would appreciate any questions or comments, maybe even a bid. Or if you like pass on the address to a friend. The story will still be posted even after the auction ends.\n\nThanks\nOrion\n','b2b37ee342ac176d81a0b4a5bb90296b',0,'','wAmdpieg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1975,470,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042076460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smontgomery1','Eric Rohmer \"Moral Tales\" DVD boxed set?','Does anyone know when/if this may come out? ','d7b2e111555d19a8418aef23add8d327',0,'','lFw7vK4s',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1976,470,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043744657,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Eric Rohmer \"Moral Tales\" DVD boxed set?','I work at a speciality video & DVD retail store in CO, and get essentially every new release and re-release foreign films on DVD. The only Rohmer\'s I\'ve seen on DVD are \"Clair\'s Knee\", \"Pauline at the Beach\", \"Full Moon in Paris\" and \"The Marquise of O\". I\'m not a huge Rohmer buff so I\'m not sure if those are the ones you\'re looking for, but I don\'t think that boxed set exists, at least not yet.','522daa36e690b985525f26cae0adc5c2',0,'','oKEs809y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1977,470,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044156826,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ladym','Re: Eric Rohmer \"Moral Tales\" DVD boxed set?','I saw this box set at amazon but it was very expensive, I believe it was around $100.00, you\'re better off buying each film individually at ebay.','f51c7cc68f9e3cf51b2ee767f68b2fba',0,'','piu8l4at',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1978,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042083024,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kriggy','Foreign Films For Dummies','Okay, at the risk of sounding like a hick-airhead, I have come seeking Foreign Film advice. I have to admit I\'ve only seen two (\"Amelie\", and \"Babette\'s Feast\"), but I have enjoyed both experiences and would definitely like to get into this. Any suggestions or recommendations? If it helps I really really loved \"Amelie\", so lets start out with something nice and easy, then maybe I could branch out....Oh dear God I\'m so typically American-tourist(sigh)!','436b26348c5c483587fbf9bf611a1cee',0,'','LUn56h2Z',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1979,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042087211,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','Delicatessen might be a good place to start if your mind is dark enough.\n\nLouis Malle\'s Le Souffle au Coeur (Murmur of the Heart) is a lovely film, and very gentle too, if you can find it.\n\nTruffaut\'s Les Quatre Cents Coups (The 400 Blows) is a great film if the subject matter appeals to you.\n\nPerhaps try Mediterraneo? It\'s quite light.\n\nThen there\'s always La Cage aux Folles - that\'s good for a laugh (the film The Birdcage was based on).\n\n\nJust a few suggestions...','0848ca0b931c2a8f9b547ff97025c6c3',0,'','kLenfRrD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1980,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042135321,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','Given that the two you liked were accessible, popular \"feelgood\" films then you may indeed like Le Souffle au Coeur, as suggested. Also Fanny and Alexander (like Babette\'s Feast, involves Scandinavian festive feasting), Cinema Paradiso (bitter-sweet nostalgia), The White Balloon (charming). For masterly action-adventure, Seven Samurai should be a good starting point. Or Aguirre Wrath of God. Try Sansho the Bailiff, L\'Atalante (slightly eccentric, but loved by many), Spirit of the Beehive, Chungking Express, The Night of San Lorenzo, Raise the Red Lantern; all superbly made and involving. Of course it\'s virtually impossible to predict what you\'ll like on the basis of 2 films, and i may be way out. Many who loved Amelie also went for Life is Beautiful.\n\nThen there are more serious and \"arty\" films by directors like Dreyer, Bergman, Tarkovsky and Bresson, not for all tastes.  Read up a bit on the users\' top 100, for a sense of what may appeal to you.','28005d314e4211b1d08490085e9286a4',0,'','x8r0v5gT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1981,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042136405,1,0,1,1,1,1,'margot.kempton','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','As a relative beginner myself, I would recommend Hable Con Ella, Y tu Madre, or any film by Almovodar for example.  Australian films of any kind are also recommended but Rabbit Fence is my latest favorite','340858fb1f59f22786198c887d48ded1',0,'','Sxyujw2K',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1982,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042148963,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','I base my choices on many different things, but I like to follow a director or an actor. I find that if I like one movie a director makes, then chances are I\'ll find another I\'ll like.\n\nAlso, keep on reading this message board. You\'ll get ideas of what to watch.','7099072ce88b5f362356db4fd973f5ae',0,'','j5Qc7r06',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1983,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042149649,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','I\'d forgotten about Almodovar - Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown is fun.\n\nOverlooked Fanny & Alexander too. That\'s enjoyable and accessible, if you have a day free.','d17d489c3692853b4711647c52315a7e',0,'','XHmJLCFk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1984,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042152027,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tyndale','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','In addition to checking out some of the films mentioned here, you also might want to try a few tactics: for example, go to your local video store and inquire which foreign films are being rented the most (if they keep that kind of info); head to your local bookstore and thumb through books on world cinema; do a search on the web for the foreign films that have won Oscars for Best Foreign Film -- these will give you ideas on where to start and what to see. Granted, the films that get rented the most or that win Oscars may not necessarily be what foreign film buffs would consider the \"best\" films -- but that\'s ok. It\'s just a way to get your feet wet and figure out what you like. Also, check out the Criterion Collection web site, as well as the Criterion Collection forum (I don\'t have the URL for it, but if you do a search on google for \"criterion collection forum,\" you should find it).','b21c3cf6aa1fd8ee91c199fc5c1dd88b',0,'','r0wneoL5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1985,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046294395,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','The film books generally say that the best place to start is Kurosawa\'s HIDDEN FORTRESS, probably because it was the basis of Star Wars, and it\'s his least obscure film.','814f4525927318a3ea337a2b09d86d24',0,'','JQDgauCe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1986,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046311345,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','the best place to start is the beginning & work your way forward.they did make foreign films before the 50\'s though you wouldn\'t know it form some of the messages here.\nrenoir \'clair,rossellini,mizoguchi,ozu,eisenstein,dhovzenko etc.then you have the 30\'s chinese stuff that hasn\'t come out of the vaults yet!','7357fb392b84f5843308b753843307c3',0,'','uEm8o6Cf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1987,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046317133,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','There is always \"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon\" to wet your appetite.  Another sweet film is Il Postino.  Like some of my fellow posters, Almodovar is always a sure bet.\n\nCiao.\n\njava\n','b84433ee5987a8d8dcd2a4daf26468dd',0,'','yM6qDme3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1988,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046418940,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','wong kar wai\'s \"ashes of time\" is much superior,as is anything by king hu suggest you check them out.','001be287c510b8d9d17760b66b21e8ef',0,'','E0TdmZ9A',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1989,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046553256,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','\n\nTHE CLOSEt\n\nWOMAN ON A VERGER OF A BREAKDOWN (almodovar)\n\nTAXI and TAXI 2\n\nEL MARIACHI\n\nCYRANO DE BERGERAC\n\nMON ONCLE\n\nJOUR DE FETE','0befa628b28967bd7ea7e986ab9365f8',0,'','oTrptG6X',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1990,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046567410,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','Though bear in mind the Taxi films are not typical foreign fare...they\'re more US-influenced than other French films I could name.','f1bb23b2d0c2d94301f910434131d61d',0,'','TPYliKG2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1991,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046662936,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','The Conformist\'s cinematography will offset any difficulties you may find with following the plot.  The sets and costumes are breathtaking.  The pace is a little slower than Amelie.\n\nThe Night of San Lorenzo or Night of the Shooting Stars is a serious bit of film making shot beautifully with some lovely performances.\n\nBohemian Life  or Vie de Boheme by Kaurismaki is a delightful comedy shot in black and white.\n\nThe Passenger with Jack Nicholson is Antonioni\'s most accessible film and noteworthy for the magnificent architecture.\n\nLe Grand Chemin is a piece of cake, with cream on top.  Small film about the joys and sorrows of family life.\n\n\n\n\n\n','b89e26e0e8c2a36cfe73ff4c3fde6c47',0,'','bLytk7DJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1992,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047997657,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','Czech films from the 60\'s are all very delightful and easy: Cerny Petr, Hori ma panenko etc.','03e48d432a15ad1a3ecd833378592243',0,'','V958yEDw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1993,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048000309,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','i m also a beginner for foreignfilms and i m sure when u dive deep enough into those films iu will find more than u can find in most of USA-made films ( i m not an anti-american but we can not deny that most of american film killed the sipirit of real cinema)...\nbut you should start to \"digest\" foreing masterpieces slowly in order to comprehend them completely: and that is why u should kick-off with \"light\" and contemprary exapmles of foreignfilms:\nFor example:\nDelicattesen ( if u liked Amelie u will most probably like this too )\nCrouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ( while u r not so away form super productions and exciting theathreal experiences this masterpiece of action flick will be good for u: later see Seven Samurai)\nLeon ( a Hollwod-like director Luc Besson\'s good film to see)...\ni m now trying to digest these movies before i jump into \"dated\" but still popular foreing flicks... :)','1b272ab4e5bc3ff0f3d11d0d6601de1f',0,'','ns6mVClu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1994,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048552163,1,0,1,1,1,1,'lena03','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','hey, i just had to add two films w/ kids as main characters:\nKolya (Czech) & Ponette (French).  ','1cdf0d230754c8883f6259dd48e41c9c',0,'','EawcT1zV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1995,471,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048555613,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Foreign Films For Dummies','Eat Drink, Man Woman is highly accessible and if you liked Babette\'s Feast, may appeal to you.  It\'s usually mentioned in the same breath as BF because of the high proportion of food shots.  The Wedding Banquet is another little pearl, directed by Ang Lee. ','50348250c35029818165ba7db4e41c4f',0,'','AqwLXeNQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1996,472,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042159928,1,0,1,1,1,1,'sahmed3','the immigrants','I saw this movie in the 70s about the first swedish immigrants to the USA. I want to get a copy of it. ','85dc40c034def4b66c86d3bd4ad2f91e',0,'','sxBtXQHb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1997,472,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042384999,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: the immigrants','IF you, by any chance, live in the US, I\'ve seen rental copies of it in many, many video stores.\n\nI watched it many years ago just because I knew Liv Ullmann and Max Von Sydow from Bergman\'s films; I remember not really liking \'The Immigrants\' though (I thought it was very dull).','b8456de482aecf0bc295f3b9b677db4e',0,'','so9D3M0B',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1998,473,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042258691,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Meike De Boer (Dutch Beauty Or What )','Joking here of course but if you consider World Darts Played by a Dutch Lady in England as a foreign performance as i do (Ha Ha ) is this Bird a Babe Or What? I Never though in my wildest dreams that i would watch World Darts because the Sexiest Dutch Woman alive is on show.The only people who will inderstand this are English Men ,,, Come on lads she is HORNY . Ps she is 23 Today The Amsterdam Babe ,Move aside  De Graf,Detmers,Janssen Kristel Soutendijk,If she ever goes in to the film world,i will never watch another French film Again .....\n','c5201f977760c033e91d9da0ef5f7648',0,'','sdobQyKX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(1999,474,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042258694,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Meike De Boer (Dutch Beauty Or What )','Joking here of course but if you consider World Darts Played by a Dutch Lady in England as a foreign performance as i do (Ha Ha ) is this Bird a Babe Or What? I Never though in my wildest dreams that i would watch World Darts because the Sexiest Dutch Woman alive is on show.The only people who will inderstand this are English Men ,,, Come on lads she is HORNY . Ps she is 23 Today The Amsterdam Babe ,Move aside  De Graf,Detmers,Janssen Kristel Soutendijk,If she ever goes in to the film world,i will never watch another French film Again .....\n','c5201f977760c033e91d9da0ef5f7648',0,'','hkfSsn38',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2000,474,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042299093,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Meike De Boer (Dutch Beauty Or What )','Sexiest Dutch darts player is Barneveld, Stompe at a push. (joke).','d0110d16bde0e9f12d2e3a46befa474c',0,'','4lyxE6LS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2001,475,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042259266,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','English Actress Katrin Cartlidge RIP','I Was so saddened to learn of the Death of Katrin Cartlidge at 41 on 7th September 2002.I Was on hols in France at the time and did not get to hear about this terrible news.She was the Muse of great British Director Mike Leigh and i will never forget her from the Early Days as Lucy Collins In Brookside Uk 1982 to her best performances in Breaking the Waves,Career Girls,The Lost Son and Mike Leigh`s Naked.The British Press piss me off as they only make reports about people who they consider to be Popular like Stick Insect Beckham and some Arsehole from a Celebrity lets make a popstar sort of Shit,For anyone that got to see Katrin Cartlidge in action,i think we would all agree what a great Actress she was and i will miss her very much.','b2c9b439476a8f7617bdc25f6af53197',0,'','QMki2utd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2002,475,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042299021,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: English Actress Katrin Cartlidge RIP','I couldn\'t agree more - I was very sad when I heard the news (along with Charlotte Coleman, it was a bad year for young actresses dying). She was a truly outstanding actress - for those of you who don\'t know her work, try Breaking the Waves.','4cea543e22d061a581a7a26358075ea1',0,'','y5bzFRdJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2003,475,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042885123,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: English Actress Katrin Cartlidge RIP','Lars Von Trier wrote an elegiac and sad obituary for her in October\'s \"Sight and Sound\" magazine. I was shocked and couldn\'t believe it. She was a great actress for sure.','266010e31213458c1e6750809787d43d',0,'','i1T2dClr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2004,475,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045576128,1,0,1,1,1,1,'natrev','Re: English Actress Katrin Cartlidge RIP','I\'m a little late with this, perhaps but I just wanted to echoe your sentiments. She was mesmerising in Naked and Breaking the Waves. Always a pleasure to watch and completely refreshing. ','b8ad4a54646173ed4187b0b646419916',0,'','x9y5rLoB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2005,475,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046293727,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: English Actress Katrin Cartlidge RIP','Her last notable film was No Man\'s Land, she was excellent in that.  I too was INCREDIBLY shocked when I found out that she had died.  After I saw her in FROM HELL I was hoping that a part in a studio film would lead to more work for her.  My favourite performance of hers will always be Breaking The Waves.','455a6212381f53c53bfda064d8ce9149',0,'','TfFWnNLe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2006,476,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042327242,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','RIP Maurice Pialat','Not a director I know much about, but still a very important figure in French cinema. He will be missed.','26d7e74909ec20250b4736458f040c95',0,'','lsDkA31e',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2007,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042418954,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','Holiday on the Buses\n\nDorothe Hare\nAnna Karina\nReg Varney le Blanq\nMichel Robins\nStephane Louis\n','ea87a1a20c1227702f8097621a4304bc',0,'','BgK35AS1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2008,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042455293,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','That Stephane Louis, I still can\'t get over the cute moustache.','6bed5ad6ca3545053bfac78448b0d49d',0,'','G9WYPL56',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2009,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043809513,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','New?  Isn\'t this a 1973 film?','74b742fbe2e43f48f2c4b76859bc451a',0,'','5SMKrwov',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2010,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043845205,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','I think, indeed, hope, that the great Mr Hasselbaink was being sarcastic. As anyone who has seen the film ought to know, it\'s not that erotic either...','284d40174f1fb5639d8f2ade0bfd6af6',0,'','XjaDKbVw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2011,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043857767,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','If I recall correctly, the opening scene (girl\'s halter-neck top comes undone?) was erotic enough for me as impressionable 11 year old (typical repressed English adolescent).','f42dc78530c73377906a36455a141d84',0,'','BJN4MWs7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2012,477,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043998539,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: New Erotic British Film ,Did anyone see it ??','it\'s just \"mr tosselwank\"\n doing what he does best,one of these days he\'s going to pull the head right off that thing!\nso sad!','aa0dea1d9537858b7c681d9aa20958e0',0,'','vhxtrSJQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2013,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1042883716,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','Am I the only person extremely outraged and appalled that Scorsese has never won an Oscar for Best Director OR Best Picture. Besides \"Raging Bull\" losing the Best Picture and Best Director Oscars in 1980 to \"Ordinary People\", Scorsese made the best American film of the 70\'s (Taxi Driver), 80\'s (Raging Bull) and 90\'s (Goodfellas). My two questions: Is there a conspiracy of sorts that had prevented the Greatest Living American Director from receiving at LEAST the 3 Oscars he deserved, and do you think he will finally win this year?','b7e45ac348073633ce9aac99425c4ae6',0,'','hlwrDZ6H',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2014,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043112602,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','in a word YES as he deserves it after a long distinguished career,he should be finally recognised,but the oscar\'s are not the be  all & end all.still he should salute this year. ','df5069ebbe3c9119ea3ae44322c5d2c7',0,'','KGd1EzYV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2015,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047326051,1,0,1,1,1,1,'anoop_raw','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','I do feel that it has been really unfair that the academy never gave an oscar to Scorsese. Infact I am appalled that they gave an oscar to Kevin Costner for directing \'Dances with Wolves\' but overlooked Scorsese\'s \'Goodfellas\'. The Academy often likes to pat itself on its back for \'correcting the wrong\' (like giving the oscar for training day to denzel washington when he deserved it more for the hurricane the previous year) they will definitely give the oscar to Scorsese. However that does not make me happy. I think Gangs of New York does not deserve a best director oscar. there are much better nominees in that category this year. but then academy has its own politics and they will hand the oscar to scorsese this year. ','a226ee112cbaae60c7fa4c57ccda8536',0,'','Ec0GiCoa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2016,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047346701,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Europa','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','Winning an Oscar these days, just means you\'ve hit the heights of mediocrity.\nShouldn\'t imagine Scorsese\'s that bothered now...','4eb71dcfa4f7b927a1401d35b1e428b2',0,'','b3WPQ9f6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2017,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047465621,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','I agree that Scorsese doesen\'t really need an Oscar to prove himself or to be recognized for his work, since he is already generally considered by most filmgoers to be our greatest living filmmaker. But still...the man deserves one dammit!','30a0a320657cc1de49f5dd8a36dfca56',0,'','z8HNUyuF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2018,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047586850,1,0,1,1,1,1,'saseen','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','I remember this famous quote made in an awadr ceremony. \"Awards are like hemmorrhoid, every bum gets one sooner or later\". But in the case of Scorsese it\'s different. He is a living genius. That\'s why they ignored him so long. Do I need to say more?','7c57da6cc8c1a6b077855d94662a4e21',0,'','UvYKCpi9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2019,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047612247,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','Let\'s hope that this year will be the year for Mr. Scorsese. He is very much over due.\n\nCiao.\n\njava','fa21bcaf0a9116d563db4e7fc073fa01',0,'','njlQuE38',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2020,478,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047938626,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Do you think this is Scorsese\'s year?...','Rob Marshall won at the DGA awards for Chicago over Scorsese for GONY. Usually this predicts who will win the Oscar, so the odds are that Scorsese may not in fact win.','a86eb464be5dacc9d480261aa0442a8b',0,'','01SYe2xQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2021,479,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043051708,1,0,1,1,1,1,'DJCornacchia','Te Amo search','Looking for Te Amo, director: Sergio M Castilla, 2001.  Can\'t find, please help.','53d5136fd6f37aae3a46232677bf2e45',0,'','7robGWdA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2022,479,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043277420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'iceomat','Re: Te Amo search','Well, if you have the Sundance channel it comes on Fri at 1:15 am est. Interesting film.','27b5c1d60efbb12295968e13ad0ac5dc',0,'','Fr4qS7RC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2023,479,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044773644,1,0,1,1,1,1,'DJCornacchia','Re: Te Amo search','Thanks, unfortunately, i didn\'t get the message until now.  I will check the Sundance channel website to see if it will be on again.  I would like to purchase it, but cannot find anywhere to do that.  Thanks for you help','de2ea43ce9f3b809a7435cf0e4bba586',0,'','7dzRiW8S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2024,480,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043100433,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cinemapromotion','Classic French Films on DVD','Pathfinder Home Entertainment is pleased to present the following DVD/video releases of these acclaimed classic French films, all available for the first time ever on DVD:\n\nLA FEMME INFIDELE (The Unfaithful Wife) \nDirected by Claude Chabrol\n- Starring Stephane Audran, Michel Bouquet\n- Available January 21\n\nBAROCCO\nDirected by Andre Techine\n- Starring Gerard Depardieu, Isabelle Adjani\n- Available February 18\n\nTHE WOMAN WITH RED BOOTS\nDirected by Juan Luis Bunuel\n- Starring Catherine Deneuve, Fernando Rey\nAvailable March 4\n\nTHE CLAUDE CHABROL COLLECTION\n- A collection of eight classic films from France\'s master of suspense\n- Available March 25\n- TEN DAYS\' WONDER\n- LA FEMME INFIDELE (The Unfaithful Wife)\n- LES BICHES\n- INNOCENTS WITH DIRTY HANDS\n- LE BOUCHER\n- THIS MAN MUST DIE\n- LA RUPTURE\n- NADA\n\nAlso available:\n\nLA CIBLE (The Target)\nDirected by Pierre Courrege\n- Starring Daniel Russo, Anemone\n\nLES PERCUTES (Triggered)\nDirected by Gerard Cuq\n- Starring Ingrid Chauvin, Bernard Farcy\n\nFor more information or to pre-order these films, please visit: \nwww.amazon.com\nwww.pathfinderpictures.com/video\nor ask your local video store or retailer\n\n','64bc76d8ae64ed5a158d99c75d285021',0,'','uX3K2irT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2025,480,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043104990,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Classic French Films on DVD','I don\'t usually approve of advertising on the message boards, but this seems to me rather good news.\n\nLet\'s see some Malle films on DVD - long overdue.','63efb98ee23515938cbbd490c4189da4',0,'','3U9esnNJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2026,480,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043199448,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jason-3','Re: Classic French Films on DVD','I second that.  Great news, thanks.','39d967ef2cf200e360ff5ca5e4712b1a',0,'','twmBLWna',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2027,480,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043744462,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Classic French Films on DVD','It\'s about time they put all the old Chabrol films on DVD! Truffaut, Godard, Rohmer, and Malle have all gotten the DVD treatment (some with Criterion) but Chabrol and especially Rohmer have been underreprented with DVD\'s.','e7af34535d80e8bcfeeeecdcf747b33b',0,'','NrT6Venb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2028,480,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043750750,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Classic French Films on DVD','If Malle\'s got the DVD treatment, where are all his French films? All I can find are Atlantic City (which is great I admit), My Dinner With Andre, Vanya and Damage.\n\nWhat I want is Lacombe Lucien, Le Souffle Au Coeur and Au Revoir Les Enfants - surely not too much to ask.','b25e08ea4d13e2695f7766abf8846dd0',0,'','nkaUzDmH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2029,481,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043205447,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tludy','Spirit of the Beehive','Has anyone else seen this underappreciated Spanish masterpiece from 1973?  It is one of my all-time favorite films.  I first saw it a decade ago, and it haunts me to this day.','5e9cd00d6dc6f419947015589ceaf18d',0,'','uTUNWpGm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2030,481,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043259194,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Spirit of the Beehive','Yes and it\'s my favourite Spanish film; such natural performances (little Ana Torrent is truly wonderful), intimate yet mysterious, exceptional cinematography, intricate use of decor and unusual colour schemes. It takes you into secret places- of a child\'s imagination- while always retaining a compelling feel for period and setting. A beautiful, deeply enigmatic, unpretentious little film that grows on repeated viewings. ','308929e16b9e0fff54df703ed8c953a6',0,'','HhNCxA0Q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2031,481,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044927066,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Spirit of the Beehive','one of the great \"children\'s films\" in terms of a childs reaction to the world around it,very imaginative,and  a beautiful performance from ana torrent. a classic!','6f14e98677e1e916732bfd7608be7cfd',0,'','XGoS1acp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2032,481,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046294326,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Spirit of the Beehive','Thank God, someone else has seen it!  I got this film from my public library and it\'s one of the most unforgettable films I\'ve ever seen.  I also saw a Venezuelan film called ORIANA by Fina Torres that I really liked and the two remind me of each other.','6c3aca3a3f08b923c917a8c5b4dfb209',0,'','cabQYH3v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2033,481,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046552514,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Spirit of the Beehive','If one day \"El Sur\" by Victor Erice gets relased on DVD or VHS wish subtitles watch it because it\'s a equally outstanding and superb!\n\n','f9e269cb82b6c302278388632f35444f',0,'','KXyARmBn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2034,482,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043371258,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tludy','Endings at Seashores','\nSeveral classic-era foreign films end memorably at the seashore.  I\'m thinking 400 BLOWS, LA DOLCE VITA, LA STRADA (if I recall correctly)....  But I know there were others.  Can anyone recall them?  Any theories on the significance?','951065d438152c64c1f2ff38a6560135',0,'','FfiUSRw9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2035,482,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1043373141,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Endings at Seashores','Morte a Venezia (Death in Venice) is foreign-made at least, despite the absence of dialogue for nearly all the film, and has the famous ending - not really a beach, but certainly sand and water.\n\nIvanovo Detstvo (Ivan\'s Childhood) ends with a flashback sequence set on a beach, I think. This shows an inextricable link between childhood and the seaside - playing in open spaces, freedom etc.\n\nPerhaps the significance of the ending of Les 400 Coups is that Antoine has reached a turning point in his life. Everything is stretching out before him (the horizon) - where does he go from here?\n\nIt\'s a really interesting subject, but I\'m not sure of a common link between the endings.','f02c0c6383507fc57dd090b761897105',0,'','84NMabYs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2036,482,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060059028,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Endings at Seashores','I believe Behind the Sun (Brazil) had a seashore ending as well.','aa45d41887ae0c09d0a7a953fc502ecd',0,'','zhl1MJpr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2037,482,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060069844,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa','Re: Endings at Seashores','The first one that comes to mind is \"Green Berets\" as the sun sinks slowly in the East...','3a1108b541c79ed3b826522745f526d5',0,'','dZFtWBST',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2038,482,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060136034,1,0,1,1,1,1,'rob.blackman','Re: Endings at Seashores','Not Sure','cfd6489e353ae5a8d5d661b2c0557d16',0,'','JPSERr2L',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2039,483,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044338331,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Fellini\'s La Voce Della Luna (The Voice of the Moon)','Does anyone know where I can get this film? Someone told me it is not available in the states, but surely there\'s always a way to get rare films...I just don\'t know about this one.','2247529d9ab406cf830c33d4fd80e509',0,'','gwd92TtE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2040,484,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044478887,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jobrien','How do I find Movie Theater for specific Film?','Can anyone help? If I find an independent/foreign film that I am interested in viewing is there any web site/link/directory that will tell me in which theater(s) it is currently showing? Thanks in advance for any assistance.','b84ebe111bec4f92a5bc3a9313cd5f34',0,'','6iPL41dt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2041,484,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044563153,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: How do I find Movie Theater for specific Film?','I find movies.yahoo.com to be pretty helpful. You enter you zip and they\'ll let you know if the movie is playing near you.\n\nMost foreign and indie movies only play for a short time though. If you can narrow down the theatres in your area that show those types of movies, then you can get on their email lists. That\'s what I do for the most part.','b73e476adbbf5e52461d3eeb2f48412d',0,'','bVdGUj9r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2042,484,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044608053,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: How do I find Movie Theater for specific Film?','Moviefone.com is what I use. All you do is type in the name of the title you\'re looking for, than your zip code and it\'ll tell you where, if any, a certain film is playing.','6aa8ce2ac83d699bb9a0d7f261746dbf',0,'','fJ9pyPbE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2043,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044604844,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eldalieva','hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','its says here in the database that andrei rublev is a black&white/color movie just like stalker, ijust saw it and all the movie was completely on black&white, so please clear this up to me.\n\n\nthanx','2e03caacc832eb56c1720f77095ff820',0,'','N8e2U0iV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2044,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044630372,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','There is colour for the last 5-10 minutes or so, where the majority of visual material is provided by the icons painted by Rublev himself, if I\'m not mistaken.','44b29ebecac117b48b65967768848e32',0,'','PoWecupG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2045,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044630445,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','What about the very end of the movie, the montage of icon paintings?  That should be in color.','081895c177adda369d315c225e6f2f80',0,'','X7pq12ug',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2046,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044630557,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Re: hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','I\'d like to point out that the previous post was writing as I was writing mine; otherwise, it would look like I just wasn\'t paying attention when I typed mine up.','66327e630d51b61aaf2393788d242514',0,'','nDUK9T5a',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2047,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044664751,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eldalieva','Re: hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','oh i see, guess the copy must be old, i found it on a videorental store and its pretty old','2a9060be1c2363f1edc69be779aa924e',0,'','dJ4HtNvZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2048,485,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044926711,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: hey wheres the color in andrei rublev??','i have seen a copy of ivan the terrible with the colour sequence reduced to black & white maybe the same happened to you with rublev i guess it\'s up to who supplied the print in the first place.','3a7a7657575d3fea454251a74b16c1fd',0,'','W00DR8PA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2049,486,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044829591,1,0,1,1,1,1,'broadcaster','Aparna Sen\'s film Mr. & Mrs. Iyer must be watched','Aparna Sen\'s film Mr and Mrs Iyer should be watched by every cinegoer. Her daughter Konkona\'s acting was superb.\nI just want to get the email of Konkona so that I can congratulate her personally on her superb acting.\nCould anyone of you email me her email number? I will be very grateful if you do that. ','6a6f2997a3770363409d4ff5861db383',0,'','VF82XsES',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2050,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1044984153,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','This year\'s foreign language film Oscar nominees are Mexico\'s \"El Crimen Del Padre Amaro\", China\'s \"Hero\", Finland\'s \"The Man Without a Past\", Germany\'s \"Nowhere in Africa\", and the Dutch film \"Zus & Zo\".\n\nVotes please! For me it has to be Aki Kaurismäki\'s wonderful The Man Without a Past.\n\nPerhaps a surprise to see City of God not among the nominations. What do you think?','574573f4c2cf428d64ad90b14d7b97cd',0,'','VsoBYDkb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2051,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045081995,1,0,1,1,1,1,'axo8744','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','I want to know why MEXICO AND SPAIN did not submit the best film they had to offer, Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN and HABLE CON ELLA, Both wonderful movies and would have being in the running for best foreign film. dam u mexico and espana!','02318782276711c4560b45f5337fb75e',0,'','iFntdVbm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2052,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045097716,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eldalieva','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','i cany belive it either, if mexicos only had submitted y tu mama tambien would make it the winner and i would be very happy. i dont have the sma opinion with talk to her because im mexican and i hate almodovar','8cec4f508d8f14944914599c00dd94eb',0,'','SjHFnJrz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2053,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045103328,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','I think I heard they weren\'t submitted for political reasons, though why specifically I can\'t remember.','fd470bb71693d9e153eba4da140bab25',0,'','vynH370p',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2054,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045135775,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','I was under the impression that Y Tu Mamá También was not eligible for this upcoming Academy Awards, considering that it was released in 2001 outside the U.S. and was up for last year\'s Golden Globe for Best Foreign-Language film.  However, I guess I was wrong, considering it was nominated for best original screenplay this year.  What are the criteria for these nominations?  I hear the foreign film criteria is very strict, seeing as how the Academy would not allow Sweden to use Lilja 4-Ever as their selection because a majority of the dialogue was in Russian.  The only foreign-language performance that I heard \"Oscar buzz\" over was Isabelle Huppert in La Pianiste, but that too was released in 2001 outside the States.  By the way, does anyone know which film France chose as its selection.  I assume 8 Femmes, but have no proof.','a91a0a9c1248c0b3fe0bc9b65c1c8c90',0,'','rVHkjutw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2055,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045156145,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','Ozon\'s 8 Femmes was the French nomination but failed to make the final five.','25f9f9912f0ed9954827f3e687c16f21',0,'','f8oiX6eF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2056,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045194570,1,0,1,1,1,1,'k0dama','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','This link gives the very specific eligibity stipulations for foreign film Academy entries:  \nhttp://www.oscars.org/75academyawards/rules/rule14.html\n\n8 Women (8 Femmes)  - Francois Ozon -  SHOULD have been one of the nominees, but I haven\'t seen any of the other contending films, so I guess it\'s difficult for me to say without full knowledge.    \nAccording the the web site below France\'s submission to the 75th Academy awards (here\'s the link): \nhttp://www.filmfestivals.com/cgi-bin/fest_content/festivals.pl?debug=&channelbar=&lang=en&year=2003&fest=oscars2003&page=selections&partner=&text_id=23504','59b665da3374002f71d0f344a20cda9f',0,'','uoD7Tfrv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2057,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045219384,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','I personally thought 8 Femmes was far superior to El Crimen del Padre Amaro.','e0efb2efded18a26fc0825edfc21a3ce',0,'','W4HhJnd1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2058,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045637212,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','At least the Academy gave Almodovar two noms: for Best Director and Best Screenplay. There\'s such an overwhelming support and acclaim for him in Hollywood that I think they gave him the noms just to make up for the Spain Film Association being morons. \"Talk to Her\" and \"...Tambien\" were both on MANY top ten lists curiously enough.\n\nI thought \"El Crimen del Padre Amaro\" was a very routine melodrama that had something to say, but got bogged down in the end from rote sentimentality and laziness. If \"Man without a Past\" doesen\'t win, someone owes me an explanation.','d6bbc03144b4b51e4a970984abfb7d02',0,'','uLRinsYW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2059,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045713073,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eldalieva','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','\"The picture need not have been released in the United States.\" maybe thats why they didnt took \"y tu mama \" and \"talk to her\"','6976ac6091a4830709916db28fabed63',0,'','JqxlsXN2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2060,487,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046103321,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: FOREIGN FILM OSCAR NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED','\"Y Tu Mama Tambien\" was submitted by Mexico at last year\'s Academy Awards for Best Foreign-Language Film but was not nominated.  It qualified for all the other categories THIS year because it was released in theatres in 2002 (that criterion is not part of the eligibility for Best Foreign-Language Film).','6786cd3d8bd65226463e0b333428ba88',0,'','hcZwNMGl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2061,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045073733,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smelliecatus','Bollywood meets Hollywood','Bollywood Hollywood is coming out soon and from what i now you are getting a Bollywood film at it\'s best. You get the great signing, dancing, etc. with the money of Hollywood. I don\'t think it will be quite Bond in terms of special effects but I reckon the quality of writing, direction and most importantly with anything that has music involved... great quality sound. I\'m really looking forward to Friday when it comes out.','7d860f50ded25e534dd5fee6cc94206d',0,'','24SHkrsQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2062,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045127590,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Bollywood meets Hollywood','At first, I thought this is about \"The Guru\".  A Bollywood movie on a Hollywood budget sounds ridiculous to me.  It\'s not like the Bollywood industry would spend US$10 million for a movie anyway.','c74ddd27b1038ca3544c555765594684',0,'','lvtWTd65',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2063,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057798087,1,0,1,1,1,1,'asia_bebe','Re: Bollywood meets Hollywood','WOW! that is GREAT\ni love Bollywood Movie they are the BEST I love the music videos some of them can but, not all that good but, most of then suits me i JUST love HINDI MOVIE they are like one of the BEST! \nms.mindy','f1be33dca40acb84ccab8ed3d467738d',0,'','bXmJxVAN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2064,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058166633,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Bollywood meets Hollywood','I like Bollywood movies very much,I\'ve seen Koyla,Devdas,Asoka....They\'re all very great!','25e24e452ca43b1673b0c1cc27f3dbcc',0,'','WQpePGxB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2065,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058917251,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Bollywood meets Hollywood','Bollywood/Hollywood isn\'t quite a hollywood film. Its a Canadian movie. This pretty much assures that the budget won\'t be close to Hollywood stuff. What the title implies is that its a blending of the two film styles and cultural sensibilities. And it worked quite well, I laughed really hard during this movie','0df6781d676ead50be42212c3cdcaf57',0,'','xiyKmXqV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2066,488,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1061598410,1,0,1,1,1,1,'IndianSummer','Re: Bollywood meets Hollywood','Guys, if you want to watch good indian movies, then please stay away from stuff like bollywood/hollywood and the guru. and you think koyla, asoka are good movies? puhleezzzee!\n\nif you\'re looking for good indian cinema, go for stuff tagged with names like \'Shyam Benegal\', \'Kaizad Gustad\' and of course, the genius of Satyajit Ray and Bimal Roy.\n\nThe director of hollywood/bollywood, deepa mehta has turned out some very good movies, especially \'fire\' and \'earth\'. these featured some excellent acting by top-of-the-line plots and very good direction.\n\nbut with hollywood/bollywood, the result is a very tacky comedy, to say the least, at least to an indian who has grown up on everything indian cinema has to offer: from understated pieces of genius to the not-so-good cinematic experiences.\n\nif you want to try out indian movies and are looking for the good stuff, try any one of Satyajit Ray\'s movies (you can get them at amazon.com) or Raj Kaproor\'s (homeless, the time to stay awake, the sun, me joker) or Bimal Roy\'s (2 square feet of land, the mother of no. 1047).\n\nif you\'re looking for new age indian cinema, go for E. Nivas (the spearhead), Kaizad Gustad (bombay boys, everybody says i\'m fine) Shyam Benegal (english august) or Ismail Merchant (A house for Mr. Biswas, The mystic masseur, heat and dust).\n\ntake it from an indian. :)\n\n\n\n\n','c85af48516f9247a8a31e72bef3cff82',0,'','WL0tlgZy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2067,489,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045191141,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eman','Current Spanish Cinema','Aside from the book \"Contemporary Spanish Cinema\" by Barry Jordan, which is informative enough, comprehensive enough, but as stiff and colorless as a board, does anyone know of any good survey resource (book or website)?  \n\nI think that Spain has been producing the most provoking movies since the late 1980s, thanks to Almodovar, Aragon, Saura, Trueba and now Amenabar, Guillermo de Toro, Mateo Gil.  Saw \"Nadie Conoce Nadie\" last week with the ubiquitous (but excellent) Eduardo Noriega and was mesmerized by how well it evoked the spirit and heat of Semana Santa.  Even the fluff genre (see \"Cha Cha Cha\") becomes interesting in the hands of Spanish filmmakers.  I have just ordered \"Intacto,\" \"La Comunidad,\" \"En La Ciudad Sin Limites,\" \"Entre Las Piernas,\" \"Beso Para Todos,\" and \"El Embrujo de Shanghai.\"  If any of these movies deserve being sought after, I\'ll let the board know.\n\nIn the meantime, some fairly new ones that are highly recommended (on DVD):  Nadie Conoce Nadie, El Espinazo del Diablo (Devil\'s Backbone), Tesis, Segunda Piel, Juana La Loca (Mad Love), Sin Noticias de Dios, La Buena Estrella, La Lengua delas Mariposas, Lucia y el Sexo, Visionarios, Abre Los Ojos.','b2f02986cafc7807200ff62889e3c94b',0,'','KFnGyN96',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2068,489,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046294733,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Current Spanish Cinema','Are you talking Spanish cinema or Latin cinema?  Because as far as I know Guillermo Del Toro is Mexican.  Otherwise, I agree with everything you say!  Spanish-Language cinema rules!','7b4fd17e96405eef842c0f8217f1e3fa',0,'','Txz1ZvJE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2069,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045446505,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','women filmmakers','I don\'t think there are currently any female filmmakers that I could consider “great directors” (or whatever kind of silly distinction one would make)... I guess a case could be made for Duras, Menken, Deren, Von Trotta, Lupino, Rainer, Akerman, Benning, maybe even Elaine May in the one-shot category (for Mikey and Nicky)... and Lyne Ramsey and Claire Denis are two of the greatest filmmaker’s working today, but I can’t think of any other female filmmakers that might be nearing that “great director” cannon (for being deeply influential or whatever kind of criteria you’d judge that with)... any thoughts?','c562da6ce470107a76c38a8bc1f32185',0,'','noHxet4g',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2070,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045473818,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: women filmmakers','I\'d add Jane Campion to the list.','ea5631dd730fe6b6da17cb3212732774',0,'','hSn3rDzy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2071,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045636885,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: women filmmakers','Have you seen Ramsey\'s latest \"Morvern Callar\"? It\'s a masterpiece. See it if you can.','8b95930384fbd09ffd6523d5a2e35ca6',0,'','i13vNrUG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2072,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046663612,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: women filmmakers','Gillian Armstrong\nJane Campion\nJocelyn Moorehouse\nSamantha Lang\n\nhave all directed high quality films.  ','461197561961ed966dbd04779afd120c',0,'','6DQFv0JH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2073,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048078602,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: women filmmakers','i dont even know if there is so many female director but Jane Campion is great: The Piano is in my TOP 10 list...\ni would appreactie \"the woman hand\" in cinema and hope to see more film by female flim-makers...','61872f6870930bc0d675bd7f1e3209f0',0,'','gMyuXs9J',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2074,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048988851,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: women filmmakers','Leni Riefenstahl a woman with a lot to be proud of (Joking Of Course ) mind you she has just made a new film in 2002 and considering she must be 100 surely by now,Big Achievment.... Don`t Forget Sally Potter','30e6dfda7a586d5f6662a878cd4777fa',0,'','fH1KSYLe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2075,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049027836,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: women filmmakers','\n\nOne woman to consider is Isabel Coixet , she has done a few films but her latest movie MY MILE WITHOUT ME  (produced by El Deseo SA. - Almodovar brothers) it\'s meant to be oustanding, the film has as actors like;\n\nMark Ruffalo (You Can Count On Me), Sarah Polley, Deborah Harry, Leonor Watling (talk To Her) and Maria De Mederios among them.\n\n\n\nAgnès Varda; (writing credits in The Lat Tango In Paris along with Bertolucci) and Vagabont, she has an extenssive career as a writer, director adn actress.\n\n\nPilar Miro; Which her film never left Spain therefore is unlikely her film will be seen.\n\nSamira Makhmalbaf; \"Blackboards\", \"The Apple\".  Born in Tehran in 1979, Samira is the daughter of Iranian director Mohsen Makhmalbaf\n\n\n\n','0e5c7a37a7ae479f1ed89c01018ebba2',0,'','yslTNhSc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2076,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049201821,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: women filmmakers','The best and most famous is Agnieszka Holland.Hungary has a lof of talented women directors: Márta Mészáros, Ildikó Enyedi, Judit Elek, Ibolya Fekete are well-known in Europe. And what about Vera Chytilová?','1795b89e97e77943542e6038c6c72cc9',0,'','Bc2he3T6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2077,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049218874,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: women filmmakers','This general discussion of women filmmakers is great, but I was originally asking about is whether any women have yet entered that Canon of ‘great filmmakers,’ either personally for you or, in your opinion, the general film world.  Within experimental film, Maya Deren was one of the first, male or female.  Whereas in narrative filmmaking, I think only Akerman and Campion may qualify.  By the way, what I mean by ‘canon of great filmmakers,’ is probably an Andrew Sarris-like listing of filmmakers who are so deeply important, that a discussion of film and film history is incomplete without them (from Ozu & Hitch & to Altman & Rivette, ect. ect. ect.)','f7135f8806e9225d4e5388c775443a6d',0,'','dBrEm7XZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2078,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049710589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'darkbluex','Re: women filmmakers','Hey don\'t forget Babs! Yes director of \"The Prince of Tides\" and \"The Mirror Has two Faces\" proves that woman directors can be as arrogant, egotistical and self-delusional just like male directors.','31f0ea91ebe7f676c86f4a229b284ba4',0,'','SzlesPah',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2079,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049829943,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: women filmmakers','Agnes Varda had most votes in the poll of top 5 films by women conducted by Senses of Cinema (excellent online magazine). Unfortunately it does seem the case that few- if any- female directors have to their credit more than a couple of films generally deemed great. \n\nPerhaps if a poll were to be made of favourite films of international female critics, more women would come to the fore.\n\nThe extraordinary, precocious Samira Makhmalbaf seems best placed to build a huge reputation. Iran has had a high percentage of top females; also her aunt/step-mother Marziyeh Meshkini, the poet Forough Farrokzhad, and Rakhshan Bani-Etemad. Perhaps India\'s Mira Nair (Monsoon Wedding) can continue to develop.\n\nI especially like:\n\nMadchen in Uniform (Sagan), The Ascent (Shepitko), The Silences of the Palace (Tlatli).\n\nThe Bulgarian film The Attached Balloon, directed by Binka Zheliazkova, is- in my imagination- the most fascinating and wonderful film ever made, (after Sansho the Bailiff, of course). \n\n','e7a2882df426f3e61c50a05f0bd9a762',0,'','ofM7Xh3L',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2080,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055529151,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dianem','Re: women filmmakers','Lina Wertmuller made 3 classics:\nSeven Beauties\nSwept Away\nThe Seduction of Mimi\nall three starring Giancarlo Giannini, two featuring Mariangela Melato.','707633eddedbe206500939691928247c',0,'','xMAf2cRG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2081,490,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056153666,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: women filmmakers','Lynne Ramsey has only made 3 films, but she is becoming a major figure in cinema and I cannot wait to see her next project. The most important & talented woman IMO is Claire Denis. She is brilliant in every sense of the word. Beau Travail is one of the best films of the past 15 years. ','ba1fc8d4d392f01af2961d6660976a60',0,'','xUvGNrDp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2082,491,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045528657,1,0,1,1,1,1,'FlyingVProd','The Actorchat','I would love to see people using the Actorchat to get together, to meet other actors and people in the entertainment business, and to do things together. It is great for quick advice, info, and for help in a jam so far as needing quick ideas for an audition, etc, but the Actorchat can be so much more. I would love to see casting directors post auditions on the Actorchat, I would love to see studio, independent, and student, film-makers able to post for talent and crew, and on and on. I would like to see the actors on the Actorchat get together to do scene-work, and also be able to find other actors and someone with a camera if they want to shoot stuff. I would like to see industry parties posted on the chat too, and also Actorchat parties periodically, so everyone can meet. The Actochat can also be used to pull people together to do public service announcements, charity work, and other great things... \n\nLet us use it.\n\nI would like to see everything from notifications of jobs and auditions on the Actorchat, to party announcements, to people being able to pull things together with other people in the business so that we can get together and act, and for us to be able to do everything from just running through scenes for fun to making movies. \n\nThe Actochat can be so much more than what it is. \n\nLet\'s see what we can do. \n\nI would like to see Julie Hutchinson, Michael Donovan, Jane Jenkins, Janet Hirshenson, Roe Baker, and other casting directors post on the Actorchat. I will also try to get David Mann to post the schedule for Take One Studios on here. I have been trying to get them all signed on. The Actorchat can be a great tool, and it is something we can use. (I was trying to get Roy Rogers and Dale Evans signed on before they died... (Roy and Dale were family, my little brother married their grandaughter Kristen. I sure miss them, they were great people.) After a life-time in the business I figured they could share a lot.) We do have people on the chat from Harvard acting school, alumni from the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, teachers from the Academy and NYU, members of The Actors Studio, students at USC film-school, and others. We have Mark who shoots film in Atlanta, Georgia. We have Knuti who worked for years as an agent, and who has experience directing plays, as well as acting. We have a lot of talented people on the Actorchat, there in no doubt. We have people on the Chat who live in the Las Vegas area, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, New Jersey, Miami, even India and other places...\n\nLet\'s see if we can use, expand, and grow, the Actorchat in good ways. \n\nSincerely, \n\nTony Verley \n\nhttp://hometown.aol.com/flyingvprod/myhomepage/profile.html \n\n\nThe Actorchat: \n\nThe Actor Chat is a FREE e-mail discussion group where actors, dancers, singers, film-makers, cinematographers, casting directors, talent agents, crew, models, producers, directors, acting teachers, writers, and any other type of artist or person associated with the arts can talk about anything and everything to do with the business. \n\nTo Subscribe: actorchat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com \n\nList owner: actorchat-owner@yahoogroups.com \n\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/actorchat/ ','9975efc1bd2ba807b3e140e8246ab9aa',0,'','gmVGWwsd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2083,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045570017,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions',' Hello! I LOVE the films/directors of the French New Wave, particularly Godard, Truffaut, Varda, and Rohmer. I would like some suggestions as far as Italian, Polish, and Russian films (past and present). To be honest, I lack familiarity with the cinematic output of other countries, besides France.','541bb188bed2ca0d0342476cfa36b92c',0,'','uoWHKanD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2084,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045589451,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','I\'m not too famaliar with French New Wave, so I\'m not sure what you\'re taste is. My favorite working Italian director is Nanni Moretti. I highly recomend both Caro Diaro and Aprile.','0f5fc7f17ca75c62a94673fe0c81fc11',0,'','92SL6YrZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2085,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045590240,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','A good place to start with Polish cinema is Polanski\'s Noz w Wodzie (Knife in the Water).','2b4b61264302e37f81c560f49520f8c2',0,'','iSMCTPLz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2086,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045636635,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','Well, it really depends on what kind of films in these countries you\'re looking for. All major countries went through different phases, but I\'d start here: for Italian, the obvious like Fellini, De Sica, Rossellini, Wertmuller, and more recently Tornatore. If you like the \"Nouvelle Vogue\", try the \"New German Cinema\" a movement in the late 60\'s; early 70\'s which included, essentially everything from Fassbinder, Herzog, and the early films of Wenders (anything before \"The End of Violence\")','860299a6cf58b8a6c7bd8f26a5ebd8c9',0,'','ojgyhNGl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2087,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046122766,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions',' Thank you all for your responses. They are very much appreciated. I bought Fellini\'s 8 1/2 on DVD yesterday!','3b1c3d3c16f5553e66c90558b8290152',0,'','gq0bX9SZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2088,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046152296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jason-3','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','You should try Antonioni... especially his masterpiece L\'Avventura.','da09318a19fa1575f5ff70ae351862ab',0,'','fcBqlPHv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2089,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046714678,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','I would recommend Tarkovsky\'s Mirror and Bergman\'s Persona.','6a64af5ed07a05743435b5fb8c47ddd1',0,'','jnaSWTEf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2090,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046742051,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','If you\'re at all interested in Tarkovsky or Bergman, I would say Ivan\'s Childhood and Wild Strawberries (or of course Fanny and Alexander) are the best places to start.\n\nAlso I would discourage potential viewers from Antonioni\'s L\'Avventura, but as it clearly has many admirers I\'ll happily admit it\'s a matter of taste.','6ce61a645a2ee99308f08a982379e738',0,'','oMKUiFcg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2091,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047325165,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','You need to see Chabrol- the master of new wave cinema. Then move on to the rest of Europe.\n\nLyne\'s soft core \"Unfaithful Woman\" seems to be theft of Chabrol\'s \"Le Femme Infidel\".  I think Chabrol\'s last was \"Le Ceremonie\".  He was a great influence on Kubrick.\n','2df78bbb5a040dd95ed300db1a0bccf8',0,'','V43JujHk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2092,492,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047358179,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tyndale','Re: French New Wave Fan Needs Suggestions','I think many of the suggestions here are great -- Fellini, Fassbinder, Wenders, etc. The New Wave is also my favorite film movement (I don\'t think I would be a cinema buff had I never experienced the New Wave), and one thing that you might think about is seeing films from other countries from the same years. Antonioni is a great example because his greatest films were all made in the early 1960s, just like Godard\'s and Truffaut\'s -- but an entirely different style (I, for one, happen to love his work, especially L\'Avventura). It\'s interesting to see what other directors in other countries were doing exactly when the New Wave was taking place (and buying 8 1/2 was a good idea).','97431b4bb62501ee3b3444b2c3456efc',0,'','0KBxgykG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2093,493,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045780032,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bubakar','Vote in the 13th Bubakar Awards','Fans of Foreign and Independent Films rejoice! :)\nYou should enjoy the nominees for the 13th Bubakar Awards,\nan online alternative to the Oscars with voting open to anyone with a valid email address.  The nominees are selected by a panel of 25 critics, scholars and film buffs from throught the US and Europe.  The nominees for 2002 include 2 foreign directors, 2 foreign actresses, as well as a best Foreign Language Film category.\n\nTo see the full list of nominees:\nhttp://home.earthlink.net/~bubakar/2002.html\nfollow the link in the upper right-hand corner to cast your vote.  Voting is open until March 2nd, 2003 at Midnight EST.\n\nHope you enjoy, and feel free to leave your comments regarding the nominees and such here!  I\'ll check back from time to time to answer any questions or battle back against any criticism!! :)  Just kidding, feel free to criticise... we can take it!\n\nThanks,\nBrian (aka Bubakar)','98551f9bc26d5a6ee02ce42c1637c196',0,'','Nxb0u2W1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2094,493,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046642521,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Vote in the 13th Bubakar Awards','Just voted. BTW, your nominations are better than the Academy\'s.','bc90c30e2cffbe5ad9ad76ed67b66569',0,'','2zeiRMx3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2095,494,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1045800455,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Fassbinder, The Third Generation','Have any of you seen this film?  I have an unsubtitled, German language version of it on VHS.  I can\'t understand a word of German, but I\'ve watched the film twice and it just entrances me (luckily I\'ve read an essay about the film, so I do have a good sense of what\'s happening in it).  It has Fassbinder\'s two biggest leading ladies in it, Hanna Schygulla and Margit Carstensen, but Carstensen totally steals the show from the more popular Hanna.  \n\nThat 1970\'s era of domestic terrorism in Germany seems like it was such a bizarre time.  There\'s one scene in the film where the gang, wearing circus make-up, kidnap a weathly entrepreneur.  Quite surreal, and highly recommended...','2f9cb4cc535bc1b45922719df5d2721e',0,'','ecsmgqxN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2096,495,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046293628,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Alternative Realities','Anyone have any good suggestion for films that present Alternate Realities?  It\'s for my sister\'s philosophy course.  I suggested \"Abre Los Ojos\", but can anyone think of anything else? I\'m stumped.','c5695a15cd57908b5b2499416f080312',0,'','7Xov0T1Y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2097,495,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046311995,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: Alternative Realities','I\'m at a total loss as far as films go, but there have been plenty of TV shows with episodes of this sort:\n\nDoctor Who, \"Inferno\" (definitely available on video)\nRed Dwarf, \"Dimension Jump\" (probably available on video)\nStar Trek (original series), \"Mirror Mirror\"','b0c6ea0a57a41e5eb0cfd99328a6889f',0,'','R8UbJHe9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2098,495,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046419129,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Alternative Realities','Tarkovsky\'s SOLARIS is the obvious choice!','249105f5787ed2ea0840f03376816efe',0,'','DXdRHnEy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2099,495,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046420176,1,0,1,1,1,1,'agerbaz','Re: Alternative Realities','Or Stalker? (Tarkovsky again)\nAlphaville (Godard)\n','63859045a6837c442167603cf5935c91',0,'','8XDsnz07',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2100,496,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046395101,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mattfolwell','\'the coming\'-international film project open to every one world wide','ok i just posted this on the indie board, so im sorry if i annoy any1 by posting it here as well...but it deserves to reach lots of ppl...plz read this...\n\nok this is hard to explain so at the end u will find some links to the\nofficial film site.\n THE COMING...is the brainchild of independant filmmaker Oded Kojocaru of\nIsrael...its a totally original project open to anyone who has something to\noffer..basically something is happenin...but wat? ....wat Oded needs is\ncontributions from world wide of ppls reactions to whatever it is thats\nhappenin...keeps the audience guessin..all u have to is make as much or as\nlittle as u want and then get it to Oded who will edit it all 2gether u\nwill then recieve credit for whatever u have done...who knows it could be a\ncult hit!! ...its hard to explain here but plz, plz, plz give it time if u\nwant more info go to....\nwww.indieclub.com-join up 4 free go 2 message boards and look for his\noriginal post under international project......or.....\nhttp://thecoming.iodrakon.com-official site 4 the film\nor contact oded at filmmaker82@hotmail.com or the\ncoming@iodrakon.com.....please take time 2 visit as u might end up doing\nsomething that will be remembered for ever!!! wether u be a media student\nlike myself or an independant movie maker there is potential here to really\ndo something u will be proud of.\n\nmattfolwell@hotmail.com-im in leicester and im using my colleges\nequipment...hopefully so it just goes to show that any1 can get\ninvolved!!!!!\n\nits a once in a life time opportunity and like eminem said if u had 1 shot,\n1 opportunity, 2 seize everything u ever wanted...1 moment,would u capture\nit or just let it slip?\n','dc2d864561c4fa8b00ccc52f34401084',0,'','AlU4kiSe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2101,497,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046480774,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Bela Tarr Films...','Where can one find his films? I loved \"Satantango\" and am interested in his other works.','8b680c72f32964f8892f37f010e74654',0,'','P96xEAdQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2102,497,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046664304,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Bela Tarr Films...','yes i reckon he is great if you find any let me know.','91fbfccbb00e3ea911745072c1a68231',0,'','hiDtYLTW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2103,497,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046711814,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Bela Tarr Films...','Cinema Parallel (cinemaparallel.com) release DAMNATION & SATANTANGO on 35mm, and Satantango in a 7 tape VHS box set... dunno who releases Werckmeister Harmonies, but if anyone does, let us know.','4539779d184b1954cc3213217f8363b0',0,'','Bvn4gsDd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2104,498,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046481255,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Why I don\'t like Antonioni...','First, for his lack of humor. He is so terribly solemn, so pompous. He projects himself as the image of the \"psychologist of the feminine soul\". He stands high on his podium and states \"Women of the world, I have understood you\", when in fact his films show complete lack of any realistic or poetic qualites of a filmmaker who knows how to portray or explore women on screen. \"L\'Avventura\" is interesting, but again drags from Antonioni\'s modish display of the \"lack of communication\"\nin the film.','70ea9a59ab00db7077a74176cbd8c83e',0,'','eoWZSkE4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2105,498,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046483064,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Why I don\'t like Antonioni...','I\'m the first to admit my ignorance of Italian films. The only Antonioni film I know is L\'Avventura, which I found frankly dull. I think what irritated me was that a film with so little plot could last 2 and a half hours. More goes on in Truffaut\'s Les Mistons.\n\nThe photography was stylish, but the pace was so slow I could hardly stay awake to appreciate it. Perhaps I was disappointed because Lea Massari disappeared after 20 mins, as I am a fan of hers, but that was by no means the only thing I disliked.\n\nI\'m at a loss to describe why this slow-paced but beautifully-filmed Italian film turns me off, but Death in Venice does the exact opposite. Perhaps there is more at the heart of Visconti\'s film.\n\nBut each to his own, live and let live etc.','64e8a6720ec9be5f0b24e89d1e304f99',0,'','ZDw5pQ7c',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2106,498,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046483433,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Why I don\'t like Antonioni...','I\'m sure people say to you \"What! You don\'t like Antonioni films?...well than you just don\'t know how to appreciate foreign films!\" Which is what people have told me, but it\'s not his slow, deliberate pace that upsets me (I like Tarkovsky, Angelopoulos, Tarr) but the content and his highly formal yet asetic style.\nFinally someone who agrees with me!','b625e559e00ea211a28b293a09ec925d',0,'','ial8ntYy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2107,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046484778,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eman','Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Run and scour your Asian DVD sources for the VCD of Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero.\"  The movie is breathtaking!  If you want to know more about the movie, check out this article from the Asian edition of Time Magazine:  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-10001021/reviews.php?critic=all&sortby=default&page=2&rid=825994\n\nThe Asian DVD import will be out this summer, and the movie will be released theatrically in the US in November.  The 2-disc VCD surprisingly has crisp video and good sound quality, and should satisfy viewers until the DVD is released.\n','517d3970981583e44924d01ce1fdc6ed',0,'','sJmpwl6R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2108,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049496764,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Will the import have english subtitles?  This is my most anticipated movie of the year.','00b84c1f452a55f80b69fa47d3b5d6f1',0,'','hRZjQGFr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2109,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049709123,1,0,1,1,1,1,'darkbluex','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','You can get it on DVD or VCD here\nhttp://www.pokerindustries.com/poker.store?page=item&sku=HERODTS-DVD\njust make sure if you get anything other than \"NTSC\" make sure you have a region-free DVD player, the VCD will play on your PC though.','2ee5913043dcf9f284681ee8fb269647',0,'','hPUni48X',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2110,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051449635,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I don\'t like Zhang Yimou\'s Hero,though it has a lot of stars in it.','405734ab8f7d62dfb3b1c4c847d3305d',0,'','YpnjEkfS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2111,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051606049,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Thanks! I am def. gonna get that VCD. The film opens here in Denver later this year, but I can\'t wait that long. I haven\'t anticipated a film this much since I read 2 years ago about the new Godard film coming out. Chris Doyle is a God...','8d198e04bca03364d16e4c159c228099',0,'','uy74FM2r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2112,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051994417,1,0,1,1,1,1,'young707','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Well, I bought a this Hero DVD here in San Francisco. I am disappointed with all that money and talent in this film. I want to sell it.','5ece490f3cb190620f40da65ea024887',0,'','YAREMTjy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2113,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054854404,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mouse','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Do Yimou and Gong Li ever work together anymore? I haven\'t seen Hero so I don\'t know if she\'s in it!...','a22a7d501fd44bd54bdd89c6087c7688',0,'','lrHvSMoB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2114,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055472547,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eman','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','The female lead in Hero is Maggie Cheung.  Ziyi Zhang of \"Crouching Tiger\" fame plays a supporting role.','a62fe547c846699581ea717c93016474',0,'','FVD28Ew6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2115,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070000321,1,0,1,1,1,1,'renren8662','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','\"HERO\" is such a star-studded movie with Maggie Cheung and Tonly Leung working again with Zhang Yimou, and Zhang Ziyi working with one of the HEROIC TRIO (after Michelle Yeoh) Maggie Cheung. Can\'t wait for ZHang Yimou\'s next movie which stars Zhang Ziyi and Anita Mui with Takeshi Kaneshiro.\n','ccd80529252f8ce581e1e132e7ac99a6',0,'','p4QkyNR9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2116,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070947301,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ksparent','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I think Zhang Yimou\'s early work with Gong Li ranks among the best movies I have ever seen in my life, and I thought he made a modest comeback with The Road Home, Not One Less and, to a lesser degree, Happy Times.\n\nI got the R3 (Korean) Hero DVD. I\'m going to come right out and say this. I totally, totally, totally do NOT get this movie. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Why are these people flying with no explanation? Why do they walk on water?\n\nI asked these same questions on another board, and the replies I got were, \"It\'s just part of the genre,\" which, in other words, says to me that they aren\'t supposed to make any sense. If that\'s the case, the director succeeded. The movie makes no sense to me. This movie read more like a thinly-disguised documentary on computer graphics.\n\nI don\'t mean to bash the film. I really want to understand it.\n','b8c614dc5e45c7e8651556ba27f3b4cc',0,'','xoKDzsVN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2117,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070954143,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','[i]Hero[/i]is not a documentary.\nIt\'s an epic tale, grounded in history, but stylized and poetic. It incorporates elements of fantasy into an elliptical narrative, which includes several points of view presented as flashbacks, both real and imagined. There are cultural references that may be foreign to most western viewers. To be honest, I would love it even without subs.It\'s a visual treat!\n Are you interested in cinema, or just realistic storytelling? If the latter, go to your local library. Cinema lovers recognize the brilliance of this Rashomon-Ashes of Time hybrid.','972d865f51f39d5b7969a7e19fc3d461',0,'','nYHQUqu3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2118,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070958560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ksparent','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','&lt;b&gt;Are you interested in cinema, or just realistic storytelling? If the latter, go to your local library. Cinema lovers recognize the brilliance of this Rashomon-Ashes of Time hybrid.&lt;/b&gt;\n\nJust because I didn\'t get this film is no reason to get snotty. I think my original post made it very clear that I like cinema and that I want to understand this film. That\'s why I ended my post with \"I don\'t mean to bash the film. I really want to understand it.\"\n\nLet me repeat: I don\'t mean to bash the film. I really want to understand it.\n','208242a1eb964e884c03d784a3f9ffeb',0,'','z3DtUneG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2119,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071127715,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I got snotty. Give me another chance, but please tell me what is it that you didn\'t understand? Is it a part of the narrative? You seem to object to the stylization of duels into balletic sequences using wire-fu, art direction, color symbolism, etc. Was there any aspect of the film that you liked?','8197c9e8fdbac25d90f0767c44a89131',0,'','g8F9Jyh5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2120,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071133405,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ksparent','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','It\'s not so much that I didn\'t like the stylized fighting as it is I just didn\'t understand it. Do they have superhuman powers? \n\nSee what I mean? As much as I like Zhang Yimou, I felt like I missed the basic premise that the movie was based on. And I do want to understand it if for no other reason than I bought the DVD. (And of course that\'s not the only reason.) \n\nSorry I got all defensive on you.','1c628c6bbc0c60fd49385c9c7071867c',0,'','U2DTunb5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2121,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071315952,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I was really disappointed by the aesthetics. Zhang Yimou\'s films are renowned for their stylistic framework, visual imagery and art design, but I wasn\'t impressed by Doyle\'s photography, and thought the art direction was weak. ','fdefeb955a1dbc814f2899cfabc89ad4',0,'','MoSDsLtj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2122,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071677889,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Are you talking about Christopher Doyle?  What is about Hero;s cinematography you didn\'t like?  Can you be more specific.  I thought it was pretty good.  As somebody said, it was a visual treat.  So the story leaves much to be desired, but it\'s still better than most.  the aesthetics of the film more than makes up for it.','9ebe7ccef996dfe57dc65cdaac6e826b',0,'','0fLgFKtQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2123,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1072226290,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I didn\'t think it was a visual treat at all. In Kurosawa\'s Throne of Blood, when arrows strike to the left and right of Mifune, the close-ups are spectacular. In fact, off-screen archers were actually shooting arrows within inches of Mifune. I\'m not advocating that type of filmmaking, but sometimes less is more, and I thought the tens of thousands of arrows in Hero were ludicrous. I didn\'t like the composition in this film at all. ','15fd1cee5d59143fcded7f458c3a75af',0,'','lDYg5PFb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2124,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1073578259,1,0,1,1,1,1,'khia','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','I like Hero too. I think it´s stunning. There´s many great fight scenes and cast is great. \nI like Ziyi´s and Maggie´s fight in forest and fight between Donnie Yen and Jet.','1a4559cd29d1535ba2f21535d95ddba5',0,'','c9WtBuE4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2125,499,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1073607728,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: Zhang Yimou\'s \"Hero\"','Just finished watching this on DVD.  Beautiful movie.  Easy to see no expense was spared.  I\'ve seen most of Zhang Yimou movies, I think he is one of the best directors in the world.  With all of that said, the movie is the first Zhang Yimou movie I\'ve seen that I didn\'t like.  The story line was weak IMHO and just didn\'t work for me.  I have 4 of Zhang Yimou movies in my top 100 : To Live, Road Home, Raise the Red Lantern and Ju-Dou.  Hero, sadly, just isn\'t a very good movie, yes its beautiful, lots of money put into it, comes across to me as a typical Hollywood flick, sad to say.  ','e04a87850c61114d9f199a632c9966ea',0,'','c8peK0Ci',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2126,500,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046485577,1,0,1,1,1,1,'eman','Infernal Affairs','The most exciting thriller to come out of Hong Kong in years also has the cheesiest title -- \"Infernal Affairs\" -- (the Chinese title is \"Mo-Gaan-Do,\" which is the lowest canto of hell in Buddhism).  But don\'t let the title put you off.  This is a taut, muscular and thoroughly enjoyable movie that\'s several notches above the usual crime drama genre.  Check out this review if you want more information on the movie:  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-10002335/reviews.php?critic=all&sortby=default&page=1&rid=843342\n\nThe Asian import DVD release features DTS sound and, bar none, is the best sounding DVD I have ever heard.  Highly recommended.','a174a681078897bdb755b98bf3a51c4b',0,'','UTwbs8Vh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2127,500,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051431654,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Lex Luthor','Re: Infernal Affairs','i highly recommend this too. recently sweeped the major awards in the Hongkong Film awards over Hero. watch this before it gets remaked in Hollywood with surprise, surprise, Brad Pitt.','b694e5a903d387f2030fe57b64006a4d',0,'','UvQkqc3S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2128,500,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051448462,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Infernal Affairs',' I really appreciate Tony Leung\'s acting skills,but I don\'t like Andy Lau.Does anyone like Andy Lau?Why do you like him?','40a27f687c24443b61ce36a1dc055d35',0,'','QacZTeE8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2129,500,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1059637315,1,0,1,1,1,1,'patrik','Re: Infernal Affairs','I love this movie.  I find it\'s one of the best flick of the past year.  I have the DVD and I really with I knew Cantonese.  Strong movies with awesome performances.  Oh, and Jessie, what\'s wrong with Andy Lau.  I generally like him and I thought he gave a great performance.  He\'s not the best HK ever, but he\'s still a good actor.  He\'s done crap, but he\'s done great flicks also (ever seen Fulltime Killer?).  (If you mean his singing, though, then I agree with you...)','bd78173e7eb7c7bc79db89f556bd95eb',0,'','HrvmdSGk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2130,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046543735,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Finest Actor ?','what about actors ?\nhere is my list\nBilly Bob Thorthon-- in The Man Who Was Not There, A Simple Plan\nAnthony Hopkins-- in Hannibal Lecter Series\nSean Gulette-- in Pi\nEdward Norton-- in The Fight Club, Primal Fear,Red Dragon\nRalph Fiennes-- in The English Patient, Schindler\'s List\nAbraham Murray-- in Amadeus\nMalcolm McDowell-- in A Cloclwork Orange\nKadir inan&#305;r-- in The Return\nGuy Pierce-- in Memento\nJoaquin Phoenix-- in Gladiator\nJim Carrey-- in Man on The Moon\nGeoffery Rush-- in Quills\nJohnny Depp-- in Edward Scissorhands\n\n','4fe66a4a253fc384fe002c6ba7a610d9',0,'','oBQUDMk0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2131,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046550737,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Finest Actor ?','Do you mean best-looking actor like the actress post?\n\nBeing a gay-friendly kinda guy, I\'d contribute, but I want to know what we\'re looking for - the Finest Actress post was based on looks.','91af54455b51ae482ffa0a21b5d1ec49',0,'','gZzpVbq2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2132,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046552738,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Finest Actor ?','I like versatile actors like Javier Bardem that can do anything. Jack Nicholson is \"About Scmidth\" and I can watch Cary Grant anytime! Al Pacino in \"Dog Day Afternoon\" and James Caan or even Edward Norton (I hope he doesn\'t waste his talent), Fernando Rey it\'s also superb and overlooked. ','d1ededf7fd99c8fb329e5ea4ff22d854',0,'','qZjay0U1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2133,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046663274,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Finest Actor ?','Phillipe Noiret\nRichard Bohringer\nDaniel Auteuil\nYves Montand\nHelmut Berger\nOskar Werner\nAlain Delon\nFranco Nero\nJean Louis Tritignant\nJean Paul Belmondo\nToshiro Mifune','090a2e568fdfd46310de73de15373782',0,'','4TqiNAKX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2134,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046743374,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Finest Actor ?','mifune, gabin,brander,depardieu,belmondo,mastroianni,grinko.\ni shall always admire the first 2.','e4b35d5c1945a35df45985b6da844b0d',0,'','u83sZtkn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2135,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046770542,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Finest Actor ?','Too many greats to name...I think the best actor out there is Vincent Cassel. Certainly the best French actor since Depardieu (I think) he has great range and is frickin\' awesome in \"Read my Lips\". Plus, he was banging Monica Belucci for a while. Lucky bastard.','8a7d9d593c0349c0f827c506726b8091',0,'','0Bo1gFdC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2136,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046855008,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Finest Actor ?','Have we yet defined whether \"finest actor\" means \"actor with the greatest skill\" or \"actor who is most visually-appealing,\" since the category of Finest Actress was about the actress most visually-appealing.','84f75fc5fba300d8ec73f90e9e115355',0,'','ilqEQoz5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2137,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046959127,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Finest Actor ?','well we may also add \"the most appealing actors\" but here i mean performance of them not look :) but yep i m a gay and i would like to lear those names later :)) wow why am i waiting for ? lemme add that topic right now :)','0cba84e73049fca239b48405e2a434e9',0,'','o1uxahN4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2138,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049678525,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Finest Actor ?','Wilfred Bramble-Steptoe And Son Ride Again\nAlly and Big Ron From Eastenders\nThe Geezer who reads from the Clipboard in Milligan`s Q Series\nArnold Schw can`t spell it\nSylvester Stalone\nQuentin Crisp\nFrank Bruno\nRon Dixon\nKermit\nKevin Costner\nJacques Chiraq Chirac\nMick Jagger\n','42ec23c520395cc273662a198e4d3c3b',0,'','v5hQlbsX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2139,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049695274,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Finest Actor ?','Armistead Maupin...','dacc11dc678fe65869e6b451717e3cec',0,'','Pfm31SoL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2140,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051371481,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Finest Actor ?','Among your list,i like Edward Norton most.I think his Primal Fear really great!','2c1049b3c145e87f85c1f289de452fa8',0,'','gtxpsanM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2141,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051402967,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','Re: Finest Actor ?',' HASSEL-\n\n   I think that the popular vote for best actor goes to George W. Bush, with Tony Blair coming in at a close second, for the film \"Freedom Equals Death\". The sanitized cinematography for the film, executed by CNN and Fox News, was pretty convincing for most people, as well.','abf9d49a54ec9ee2fc0b932cb82dbfb5',0,'','WHUdaVkg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2142,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055529008,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dianem','Re: Finest Actor ?','Giancarlo Giannini, especially in Wertmuller\'s films, and especially Seven Beauties, and Bruno Ganz, who was great in Volker Schloendorff\'s Die Falschung and Herzog\'s Nosferatu.','b5d9f920700ccadbdd85ad9fb56adb94',0,'','tuHlZk93',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2143,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056165851,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kgordon','Re: Finest Actor ?','There is no contest..the best actor, and the most funniest is the Iraqi news minister..We were sitting, watching a war, and laughing our butts off when this guy came on tv..and he always kept a straight face..even when he said the americans were not in the city..and you could see the tanks behind him on camera..personally, if a tape was available with him doing his standup routine, Id like to watch it.. ','bcfe50235af981141ab82794584da9e4',0,'','f8u1Dhns',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2144,501,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056177951,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ladym','Re: Finest Actor ?','John Malkovich, to me, is the finest actor. I\'ve loved him in everything he\'s done. Plus, I have alot of respect for all the theater he\'s done.\n\nFabrice Luchini is my favorite french actor. I know there are perhaps finer french actors but he\'s darn good.','6d11f3d0dafb7c3f604bee0964599a54',0,'','8Dk3zVn7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2145,502,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046642658,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Has anyone seen \"Songs from the Second Floor\"?','I keep hearing about theis picture from friends, but haven\'t seen it anywhere. Does anyone know if its in theaters, on video, and where?','f6ecd4f88988835d1c75cc1c19652706',0,'','HnqoR3M9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2146,502,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046662997,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Has anyone seen \"Songs from the Second Floor\"?','yes it is on video (artificial eye i think) but don\'t quote me. very good, very black the film library tape i viewed came from UK so you should be able to find it on line.cheers','dd6c0bcfd5d48f8b09dccd87ba7b48b5',0,'','ASpiJBPL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2147,502,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057896589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hindragal33','Re: Has anyone seen \"Songs from the Second Floor\"?','It\'s one of the greatist films I\'ve ever seen though I\'ve only seen it once during its theatrical premiere.  Hopefully it will make it to DVD','f85a043161396c5f9b58ceedd634337e',0,'','xUzR3LGh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2148,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046715415,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Sebastiane','Has anyone seen this film?','29909fceecc669365effa2bea1f3aa8e',0,'','oW69gQxi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2149,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046723875,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Sebastiane','Yes, I have seen it.','e8cd207f27580ee3ecaa261db357382c',0,'','l8qy6abw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2150,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046729969,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Sebastiane','Are we talking the Derek Jarman film?  Very sexy, and actually very intelligent too.  But sexy, more important.','b2ec3439c8019f0ebfa5c09e9cb3d7c3',0,'','A3tgYiuK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2151,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046742161,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Sebastiane','I\'m only now getting into Jarman - I haven\'t seen it but I\'d love to, especially as it stars the late Richard Warwick. Any opinions on the film?','d7e981f912805de62833abcd60be4303',0,'','7cuQ0tVW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2152,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046742882,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Sebastiane','very affecting.the scene with St sebastion filled with arrows is brilliant! even straight people (without a degree in latin) like me can enjoy it','38ce5b7042a35035c3fa1ff088c9d1c8',0,'','04rCGvwU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2153,503,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046771860,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Sebastiane','As a Jarman fan, I can easily say it\'s not his best work, but a solid, interesting film nonetheless.  I once read a review that stated that one of the film\'s main flaws is that the lead character is both the most attractive and, unfortunately, least compelling of the men in the film.  I loved the very dream-like music Brian Eno provided for the film as well. ','c46b05485900cb291284671124fedd76',0,'','NAHn4mEV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2154,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046776774,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HekateMistress','Off topic: Nudity/sex','As most people know, to find the good sex and nudity in film, one has to travel outside the US.  I\'ve started this topic in hopes that perverts like you and me can share some of our favourite moments in all its erotic glory.  Who can\'t resist those saucy French vixens?  Or those Italian heart-throbs?  Even better when they shed their clothes... Here, I\'d like for everyone to share some of their favourite nude and/or sex scenes, but folks, let\'s be creative and leave such recent art-house hits like Y Tu Mamá También and Sex & Lucía off the lists.\n\nI\'ll start with some of the ones I treasure:\n\nHelen Mirren bares both her soul and body in Peter Greenaway\'s violent allegory The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover... though I do enjoy her nudity in Caligula a bit more.\n\nJean-Hughes Anglade and Vittorio Mezzogiorno got down and dirty in Patrice Chéreau\'s L\'Homme Blessé--homoerotic, passionate, and sexy.\n\nI enjoy any film where Asia Argento bares her beautiful Italian bod -- and it\'s even more preverse when it\'s being shot by her own father!\n\nFor Middle-Eastern cinema, the recent Late Marriage contained one of the steamiest, longest, most realistic sex scenes I\'ve seen on film in a while.\n\n...And how could anyone leave off Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle?\n\nDerek Jarman\'s Sebastiane comes to mind when thinking of more male nudity... (I suppose the best male nudity comes from queer cinema.)\n\nNow that I\'ve shattered the ice... feel free to share your thoughts as well.','77b8aa4a39c15593bd2f579b1bed1fb2',0,'','wkZoHF8b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2155,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046778067,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','In my formative years (1997ish) there was nothing to do but watch French films late at night on BBC2.\n\nTwo that stick in my mind are Noce Blanche (Vanessa Paradis and an old man - OK if you can overlook this aspect) and Love in the Strangest Way (Elles n\'oublient jamais), a film not listed on this site), both of which were quite erotic to a sex-crazed teenager.\n\nAnd of course Jenny Agutter in Walkabout - probably the most beautiful nude scenes in all cinema, due in no small part to Nic Roeg\'s brilliant eye, one of the great cinematographers.\n\nI often find the sexiest films are those which avoid nudity - Polanski\'s Knife in the Water etc.','d3725ad42f1202137cf0bc4282521be5',0,'','rbnfqV6Y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2156,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046828748,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Regarding Helen Mirren, you ought to check out \'Savage Messiah\' (Ken Russell).  She is far more \"exhibitionary\" in that one than \'The Cook, the Thief, etc.\'  She made my heart melt in \'Savage Messiah\'...\n\nJenny Agutter ... ah, she was amazing.  She had a very revealing scene towards the end of \'Equus.\'  She had one in \'Logan\'s Run\' too.  She was just gorgeous in the latter.\n\n','3dc653a46c9ed5cd4e2e89d2286dd3a3',0,'','dYEbjaGQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2157,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046855600,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HekateMistress','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Another actress who I forgot to mention would be Élodie Bouchez, who I believe is currently married to one of the lads in Daft Punk.  She was gorgeous, and gorgeously naked, in the film Don\'t Let Me Die on a Sunday, or J\'aimerais Pas Crever Une Dimanche.  She\'s bared skin before, in Wild Reeds and CQ, but that film was easily her best \"revealing\" performance.','264190fc6332927a307b6e9c61c223aa',0,'','zZBNql9T',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2158,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046909229,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HekateMistress','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','About the comment that the sexiest films are those that avoid nudity: I very much agree, and I site Persona as an example.  Easily one of the sexiest, toe-curlingly erotic scenes not to include sex or nudity.  That Bibi Andersson.  But to start discussing such matters would be to change the topic...','3d634b7e2179b15873090470cf2acb31',0,'','3FE6Ulsn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2159,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046973492,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Bacchus33','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','I have a rather strange one.  It is the opening sequence of Godard\'s Weekend.  I saw it when I was a young teenager and it did strange things to me.','de53f5788cef80b38509090b83177da6',0,'','vjHoyL8t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2160,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047004337,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Béatrice Dalle in anything....','d5f9481cd4ec1ad1a3610353baaad0ec',0,'','WrQtL6De',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2161,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047204214,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','The sex scene in Nicholas Roeg\'s \"Don\'t Look Now\", with Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie, is still one of the frankest, most honest. and lyrically shot in the history of cinema. And yes, I agree with \"Late Marriage\" in that I was taken aback by the sex scene in that film, tasteful yet erotic.','fe097c3b67bdcbeab5f68fd9538691bb',0,'','Upl1SV5Y',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2162,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047223846,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Personally, I liked Nicole Kidman\'s unclothed scenes in \'Eyes Wide Shut.\'  They were brief, but I suppose part of the eroticness of it was that such a popular and successful actress would consent to doing those kind of scenes.','5002d26544bdb0064998f1d011a58d9a',0,'','HN39R4Cw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2163,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048392469,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','LETS HAVE A COMPLETE TOPIC ON THIS SUBJECT AND PUT DOWN AS MANY AS YOU KNOW,So we can all go out and buy them.I Have a stack of Uk Women ie Nude Scenes if anyone is interested','3b32095e9f75c7821df53ab9077ec24d',0,'','lfvpmZR4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2164,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048392766,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','For Gaz i did a review on Noce Blanche ages ago have a shufty and i Agree Nadia Fares (Crimson Rivers 2001) is stunningly sexy in Love in the Strangest way love the Bath tub scene','79b6f82eac551540da01d100854be32b',0,'','QSdtp6s2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2165,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048469510,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Whoooooa -  the bath tub scene, don\'t get me started on that. I haven\'t seen it for a while, but I seem to remember the woman grabbing the man *downstairs* and telling him what she can do by performing this simple action. Certainly one to show the grandchildren.','fdd7a6f5f3052535c78285d9c50f3fcc',0,'','4rf1KEd7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2166,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048912835,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Jenny Agutter Walkabout\nHelen Mirren Cal,Age Of Consent,Cal,Caligula\nIsabelle Huppert,Lady Of The Camelias,Lou Lou,School of Flesh,Passion,The Lacemaker,Heavens Gate,The Bedroom Window\nNicole Kidman Birthday Girl\nBeatrice Dalle Betty Blue\nElodie Bouchez-Dream Life Of Angels,The Wild Reeds,Lovers\nJuliette Binoche,Incredible Lightness,Damage\nHeather Graham Boogie Nights\nMonica Bellucci Malena\nKylie Minogue,Deliquents\nRachel Weisz I Want You\nAnne Parillaud 6 Day 6 Nights Innocent Blood\nJoanne Whalley Scandal\nVictoria Abril Lovers,French Twist\nMaribel Verdhu Lovers\nCatherine Deneuve Belle De Jour,Polo X\nEmmanuelle Beart La Belle Noiseuses,Manon of the Spring,Une Femme Francais,L`Enfer\nSam Janus Up N Under\n\n\nHere is a few off the top of the head to get started,Sorry Girls','cf060b2c221dbacc64d530f2f9432b1a',0,'','1c2tR5bK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2167,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048913065,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Hundstage Dog Days the Austrian Film that film is amazing i done a review on it,Really Weird','871a2442818cf3efd072725bb430fc8f',0,'','rSjeB1Wn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2168,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048918575,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','One of my favorites is the very cool, very original scene in Closely Watched Trains...Where the guy is rubber stamping the girl on her legs and butt.','52b7c8287f3ab3e8f6c120f6823f30ff',0,'','iX642D1V',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2169,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048989956,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Anne Parillaud,A La Folie\nBeatrice Dalle,A La Folie\nKelly Macdonald,Trainspotting,Some Voices\nJodhi May,The Other Boleyn Woman,Sister My Sister\nJoely Richardson,Lady Chatterley`s Lover BBC\nKristin Scott Thomas,Bitter Moon\nLudivine Sagnier,Water Drops...\nNatacha Regnier,Dream Life Of Angels\nEmmanuelle Seigner,Bitter Moon\nKerry Fox,Intimacy,Wisdom Of Crocodiles,\nLaura Fraser,Divorcing Jack\nMiranda Richardson,Damage\nSusan George,Straw Dogs\nMadeline Stowe,Stakeout\nElle Macpherson,Sirens\nMiranda Otto,Sirens\nHugh Grant.....\nRomane Bohringer,Vigo Passion for Life\nVirginie Ledoyen,L`Eau Froid,Early September...\nCharlotte Rampling,The Night Porter,Wild Orchids,Under The Sand\nVanessa Paradis,Elisa,Noce Blanche\nClothide Courau,En Face,Milk,\nTida Swinton,Orlando,Female Perversions  Wow\n\nThat`s my latest updates,sorry again girls','4e8849fbb5ea19373795c6666b495cc3',0,'','eWwXC41D',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2170,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049709849,1,0,1,1,1,1,'darkbluex','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','Well here one for the girls, or I guess other types of guys.\nthe Spanish film El Fantasma  a garbage man finds a cop tied up but instead of letting him go he pleasures the cop with his hand and leaves him all tied up. Interesting!','9bc8b5e08865e9791067bdf50422d731',0,'','igR8jSF4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2171,504,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052758843,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Off topic: Nudity/sex','All of Y Tu Mama Tambien.','8a7a518773d03544fdc7c473ebba0179',0,'','sZc4DKHE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2172,505,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046799420,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','New RIPs','Horst Buchholz has died (Magnificent Seven, La Vita e Bella) and so, late last year, I have discovered, did Daniel Gélin (The Man who Knew Too Much, Le Souffle au Coeur, La Nuit de Varennes, Is Paris Burning?), a very fine actor. Any comments about these two welcome.','ce66bb048380dcff4b69e5cd52d1803a',0,'','o8eKldiM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2173,506,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046838714,1,0,1,1,1,1,'splinter101x','austrian films','i`am missing here some movies, that would give you an insight about both creative potential and strange minds of\nmy fellow austrians. talking about: \"richtung zukunft durch die nacht\", \"indien\", \"nordrand\", \"komm suesser tod\", \"die klavierspielerin\", \"hasenjagd\".....there are many more. you\nknow some of those?','a836d91fbd136b49b404f653ea8b9cf4',0,'','u8lZth9H',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2174,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046960815,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Best Looking Actor ?','well well well \nhere it is the most appealing-cutest-sexiest seducing actors of cinema ?\ni can not decide from whom i should start :)) well i dont see a film for its starts-actors-actress but there are some exceptions :)\nThoe are my dreamy-actors who seduce me to see that movie for only them:\nBrad Pitt ( oh my god, what a seducing-cute man! )\nRalph Fiennes ( Pure-mature English Gentleman )\nGiovanni Ribisi ( unfamous but deadly cute )\nKadir inanir ( A Turkish Actor: He seduce all Turkish woman even man )\nJean-Claud Van Damme ( yep i know he has not ability to act but he has a smooth-cute-sexy to watch body )\nMel Gibson ( when he as young: for now err not so handsome )\nVin Diesel (just like Van Damme )\nViladimir Mashkov ( a Russian stud in Vor )\n---------------------\nWell above all those cuty-actors the best is Brad Pitt\nwhat about your dreamy actors ?\n','c6933466cf130231d8d58fa00028a8ac',0,'','aAYhmezb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2175,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046969083,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Let\'s see...\n\nJude Law\nDirk Bogarde (1950s)\nJean-Pierre Léaud\nsomething about Donald Sutherland\nMichael York\nperhaps Malcolm McDowell\n\nI\'ve left people out, but will add more if and when.','cc1cf3cf184bc17ed4886bb4ab20f69a',0,'','l8JTbkjv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2176,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1046984862,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Excuse me in advance :))\nHey Gaz err i just wanted to know your e-mail adres to be e-mail pal if u like ...\nthanks for your contrubition...','8d511055b030422da5219d3c22539b90',0,'','DfmKXJsx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2177,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047045363,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HekateMistress','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Recent actors:\nEduardo Noriega, Jude Law, Aidan Gillen, Jérémie Rénier, Gael García Bernal, Sean Harris as Ian Curtis in 24 Hour Party People [though actually I think it\'s because of my teenage crush on Ian Curtis and not so much because of the actor], Benoît Magimel, Tony Leung, Matthieu Kassovitz, Moritz Bleibtreu, Johnny Depp, Guy Pearce, Julian Sands, Rupert Everett, Rupert Graves.  And it is odd that I find Beat Takeshi incredibly sexy?','25c9c3356398a2ce882a852ae57429ba',0,'','8lxgXTcn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2178,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047258138,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Some more...\n\nRiver Phoenix obviously\nTony Curtis\nKeanu Reeves & Alex Winter in Bill & Ted persona (sorry, I know it\'s totally mindless but they\'re cute)\nand I find Laurel and Hardy oddly beautiful - hope I\'m not the only one...','2846caf0ea3fa8f6b93652e5cdc47ed8',0,'','ajuDifYw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2179,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047531917,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Alain Delon','37dc281b735a3dba30e4a59920c2f011',0,'','FKEx83UM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2180,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047612469,1,0,1,1,1,1,'javajunkie75','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Oliver Martinez, Antonio Banderas, Benicio del Toro come to mind.  I also think that Nicholas Cage & Sean Connery are both extremely good looking as well.\n\nCiao.\n\njava','5734e64c80f1377f91798601a90b87e1',0,'','MjzbY2e6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2181,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047667181,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','i want to thank everyone answered my question thanks a lot folks :) Tuncay','3c85aee516697b4d44c6eeb71eb76b84',0,'','FxyT9cLV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2182,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047862287,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Ernest Borgnine','309c69218f0399c5d2749539066971e7',0,'','xhDeJwSY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2183,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048391877,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Shane MacGowen from The Pogues\nBurt Kwouk (Kato Pink Panther )\nGerard Depardieu\nEwan Bremner\nRolf Harris\nThe Geezer in Open Your Eyes (Spain )\nJacques Chiraq\nTerry Jones (Only In Python Drag)\nMarty Feldman\nGene Wilder\nJennifer Lopez','41ca811eefba4ae6c556925b2c07f5c4',0,'','Joz1vgu2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2184,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048392090,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cyberwave','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','Mel Gibson is and forever will be the most photogenic face on camera\n\ni\'d watch him over traci lords anytime =))','76b15df56de409e06f91f68f2c040db1',0,'','nvXQWTSC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2185,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048469360,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','I half expected a sardonic post from Hasselbaink sooner or later, but I don\'t think Burt Kwouk is ugly enough to merit selection. Most of your other choices spot on though.','1199c4e91e6f9e5d2fd16e0c8daf7797',0,'','mU6hspna',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2186,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048513937,1,0,1,1,1,1,'for_me_blue','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','The late Sergey Bodrov Jr. If you don\'t know who he was [Russian actor] who was in Est/Ouest, Brat/Brother, Brat 2/Brother 2, Prisoner of The Mountain, etc. \n\nLizka','60c9c9a5ca15efe50e4ebcc10723df03',0,'','t7aJpC01',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2187,507,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054190662,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tuttifrutti02','Re: Best Looking Actor ?','jared leto\nMoritz Bleibtreu\nguy pierce\neathan hawke\n\n...to add a few more\n\n','43bb44b9557deef06244f4cef9a0de76',0,'','Fb4lqwxc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2188,508,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047014976,1,0,1,1,1,1,'terrybanh','Brazilian movie search','Hi, I saw a movie back in early 1980s about a mix slave (Isaura) who grew up in a sugar cane plantation, and her life story...it was a love movie and I would like to know the name of the movie.  If this rings any bell, I can describe more for you..\nThanks \nTerry','6ee8efad9d5a31490f239df36be09083',0,'','1FykJfz0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2189,509,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047242409,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Which gender created-used most cliches ?','\"cliche\" is the most desrtucrive term of cinema, i always name a film as \"masterpiece\" if it managed to be good without using cliches,i think a film should add a brand new way of cinema-language or technique managing to use old ones in the summit.\nSo which genre produced-used the most known cliches ? and what are they ?\ni think the answer must be action-adventure( especially martial-arts),horror and romantic-comedies...!\n','7b8f04dd39a5db9552a2b19a8ba91cf2',0,'','bGVl9wBN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2190,509,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047938702,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Which gender created-used most cliches ?','Definitely romantic comedies. The goofy and/or anti-marriage best friend, the old wise grandfather who spits out advice, etc. Too many cliches to mention.','1194b926b7313455a98de76eae89e7ae',0,'','MZbdUNLH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2191,509,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047999396,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Which gender created-used most cliches ?','well yes i think another mass-cliche genre should be romantic-comedies...\nbut i think the most cliche part of romantic-comedies is \"the end with kiss\" part :) when u start to see that movie you can easily guess \"who with who\" will be lovers and Bingo!!! They kiss each other in the street and the camera goes up into the silhuette of the city :))\nAlso it is a very common cliche that the opposite people get together: romantic woman& rude-unsentimental man, a man of love& slut woman...and the list goes on...\nbut i think people still love romantic-comedies and also they serve for Lovers: imagine 2 lovers seeing a horror movie!!! Acceptable? NOPE it is a rule that if u go to cinema with your Darling u should see a romantic-comedy     ( it helps you to u refresh your affir and at the end you will have a great opportunity to kiss your partner)... :)))\nwell i m looking forward to reading your ideas about other genres...','c6a68d33d87cf686e7fbdfa4bcb2b39b',0,'','cD7bStj5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2192,510,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047347759,1,0,1,1,1,1,'rvml','Cuban films - anyone know where I can find them in Los Angeles area?','Hi there! Am doing research on Cuban cinema and am having a very hard time finding Cuban movies to rent. The better known ones, such as \"Death of a Bureaucrat\", \"Strawberry & Chocolate\", Life is to whistle\", \"The Last Supper\", \"Guntanamera\", and a few others) are relatively available here in the Los Angeles area, but the less well-known ones are very difficult to locate at all. \nDo you have any suggestions regarding how I might find video copies of the more off-beat Cuban movies? I would prefer to rent rather than buy, if possible, and ideally in the Los Angeles area!\n\nThe titles I\'m looking for right now are:\n\nVertical Love\nLucia\nPapeles Secundarios\nPlaff! (a.k.a. Too Afraid of Life)\nCon el Deseo en los Dedos\nLas Noches de Constantinopla\nMadagascar\nUna Novia Para David\nNada Mas\nSiete Muertes en Plazo Fijo\nLista de Espera\n\nAny response would be MUCH appreciated.\nAll best wishes and thanks for your help -\nRalph','4ee5b06b4b6d29a841e74125b72cd992',0,'','ogNKYtkA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2193,511,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047645028,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kyutest','want something different and worth watching??FILIPINO FILMS are...:)','u people should really check out some filipino films. i urge u guys to do so, im a fan of the Philippine Cinema. i\'ve seen alot of filipino films and they can really move and touch u because of the strong points they\'re giving to the audience. the story lines and plots are very different..inspired by the unstable society and diverse,colorful strong willed people there in the Philippines. judging from the filipino films i\'ve seen so far,i find them very unique. the actors are fairly great, there are far better filipina actresses than Gong Li of Raise the Red Lantern..that i can really say.   ','5980206cdb23b939231c951f95ea60c6',0,'','9GrY0qDF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2194,511,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047892463,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: want something different and worth watching??FILIPINO FILMS are...:)','I would have given your suggestion a chance if you had resisted spelling the word \"you\" with a single-letter.','72f593c5ddefdb32d07e6841e647093a',0,'','8GdebaSq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2195,511,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047929134,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: want something different and worth watching??FILIPINO FILMS are...:)','Please. List some of your favorites. I\'m open to checking them out.','12000197ace6fa7c49ec065620dcab72',0,'','wQgq4ZDr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2196,511,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047943706,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: want something different and worth watching??FILIPINO FILMS are...:)','Midnight Dancers is really good ([url]http://www.angelfire.com/movies/myoldaddiction6/MidnightDancers[/url]) and so is Burlesk King.','ebc4a27d84a64feb004d3547b55d3550',0,'','CDhmu7iG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2197,512,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047862214,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Medem...spelled backwards','Lovers of the Arctic Circle was very good...Any other Medem recommendations ?','d472bcab85c3c1935cb0e355ef4d17b4',0,'','AJEtaPBH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2198,512,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047892376,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Medem...spelled backwards','The Red Squirrel is excellent -- I wasn\'t crazy about Sex and Lucia.','e2187a6eb9d8feecf166719fc3b90eef',0,'','W043pZtP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2199,512,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047996782,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: Medem...spelled backwards','\"The red squirrel\" is one of the best films of the 90\'s for me.Fantastic,mysterious,well-acted.','787dda932c9354946c84ae27f7e520ef',0,'','Aji9CebY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2200,512,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048959501,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: Medem...spelled backwards','I like everything Medem has done, Vacas, The Red Squirrel, Tierra, Sex and Lucia... always forgotten un overlooked.\n\nHe is poetic and so interior, the opisite of almodovar and both from the same country, same times and yet their films are totally oposite.','20c291b5b1c4f2e83417ba7b4f6a32ef',0,'','xAcWkRvr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2201,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1047898219,1,0,1,1,1,1,'csicmga','Good Movies','I love watching all types of movies ,mostly romantic movies are the one which i enjoy the most ,but i get disturbed if the couples dont meet in the ending ,i like leonardo ,tom cruise ...\ntell me few names of romantic movies ,which i cud really enjoy......\n\n\n\n\n\n','587f7c43c05ba802a48b5049150ac895',0,'','9gBUK4Qo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2202,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048908432,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tastlikeburning','Re: Good Movies','If you like romantic movies you have to see Amelie. It\'s magical.','5550a25447bd92de3c2a4c62b8b4de54',0,'','SMCVty9c',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2203,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048960082,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa','Re: Good Movies','Try \"Friends\" (1971) with Sean Bury. This has NOTHING to do with the tv series of the same name...','efdbbf3769f89f9d5e83ad0c74abe9ec',0,'','ASmDey8i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2204,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049078363,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Good Movies','any of the bitter sweet doulas sirk films from the 50\'s\nall that heaven allows,imitation of life etc,\nvigo\'s \"latalante\",murnaus \"sunrise\",dw griffiths \"broken blossoms\",fasbinders \"fear eats the soul\" all bittersweet in tone all great films...cheers','542068d69a925c8f3e7847b018050599',0,'','89n6EGwx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2205,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049125020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tj_lamant','Re: Good Movies','This is the reply message to csicmga:\n\ni know of one French production romantic film which you may enjoy just as i do. The movie is in English but a French, UK production.\n\nThe movie is \"The Lover\" (L\'Amant in French). Hv u heard of it. It is a story of a French girl\'s romantic passion for a Chinese man in the late 1920s. \n\nAlso see my site for more details:\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/tony_jane_lamant/\n\nJoin in the group as Membership is FREE. i m already a member.\n\nBelieve me, you will not regret this movie as you can buy it in a store near you or from the internet.\n\nRegards:  MM1991','a63a6dc2b871e3c939252ba4c64c7461',0,'','zu2bEtrL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2206,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049143106,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Good Movies','gratefultiger\'s right as usual. Douglas Sirk is an especially good recommendation, especially Imitation of Life. Also Fassbinder\'s Fear Eats The Soul, a remake of Sirk\'s All That Heaven Allows.\n\nBut if you want something with a happy ending, try Bill Forsyth\'s Gregory\'s Girl - very romantic at heart and it has great charm.','337d181d9d7c7c24037db3e597528b0b',0,'','z9bUsLnH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2207,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068159509,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Good Movies','No list of romantic films is complete without Eric Rohmer (The Green Ray, My Girlfriend\'s Boyfriend..)- fresh, young , spontaneous and summery-, and Max Ophuls (Letter from an Unknown Woman, Liebelei)- exquisite Viennese period confections.\n\ni\'ll second; Sunrise (wonderful), L\'Atalante, In the Mood for Love. \n\nAlso; Lovers of the Arctic Circle (terribly touching), Ai no Corrida (love as sado-masochistic sex), Show me Love (teenage lesbian love).   \n\nThe most romantic moment in cinema is the end of The Green Ray. ','508c0050337e76852b652beb1720970a',0,'','mBAvbJ0i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2208,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069069898,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: Good Movies','I agree with john-5 about Rohmer. Don\'t forget my favourite Rohmer film, An Autumn Tale. Claude Sautet\'s Nelly and Monsieur Arnaud is one of the most beautiful films I\'ve seen. I was also moved by the love stories in Wong Kar Wai\'s Ashes of Time, and Beat Takeshi Kitano\'s Hana-bi. ','189d9fe0315a97786c9b79905f4f7050',0,'','2qBRJMGh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2209,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069070186,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: Good Movies','I forgot two of my favourite films -- Tampopo and Eat Drink Man Woman. ','d21c7ba6081c0699745aa1bec40bbe7c',0,'','F3lwrS5t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2210,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069077877,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Good Movies','Ok, no one has yet mentioned Truffaut (either that or I just didn\'t read the previous posts clearly). \n\nTry, Jules et Jim - Truffaut\'s best film and one of the finest romantic films ecer made.\n\nStollen Kisses/Bed and Board - It\'s not necissary for you to have seen The 400 Blows in order to enjoy these films.\n\nThe Last Metro - Less enteresting than the others but equaly enjoyable...well maybe.','b118a14d92b3de4dfde3c085d29b5e8a',0,'','cNhEtUYZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2211,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069086755,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Good Movies','I preferred the other three Truffaut films Henry mentioned to Jules et Jim, which for some reason I have never appreciated as much as others. In any case, all four are made with great care and charm, as you would expect from Truffaut.','d5bcdb6a1f62f16ef7742246fe82323a',0,'','3v6oXajS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2212,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069302501,1,0,1,1,1,1,'rbkinney','Re: Good Movies','I am looking for the film \"Ribelli per Caso\" directed by Vincenzo Terracciano.  It was recently features at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival.  Does anyone know if this film will be released for theatres in the US, or if not, if it is available for purchase on DVD?','dcfb7fb5c11e530b235fb12c81ae3098',0,'','ps4AEXrQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2213,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069440299,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manals','Re: Good Movies','I\'m a hopeless romantic myself, but my romantic top tens are all over the map, and my not be concidered true romances in by a lot of viewers. But I seriously suggest you check them out, in no particular order. (I hope the summarized list fits)&gt;\n\n* The Horseman On The Roof by Jean-Paul Rappeneau\n* Lekin by Gulzar\n* Red & The Double Life of Veronique by Kieslowski\n* The Road Home by Zhang Yimou\n* Mr & Mrs Iyer by Arpana Sen\n* The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Philip Kaufman\n* The Widow of Saint-Pierre by Patrice Leconte\n* Queen Margot by Patrice Chéreau\n* The Boxer by Jim Sheridan\n* Hiroshioma Mon Amour by Alain Resnais\n* Indochine by Régis Wargnier\n* Like Water for Chocolate by Alfonso Arau\n* The English Patient by Anthony Minghella\n* Ameilie by Jean-Pierre Jeunet\n* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon & Sence & Sensibility by Ang Lee \n* Last of the Mohicans by Michael Mann (I know I know, Daniel Day Lewis & Madaline Stowe are so wonderful)\n','20601a59306a837bf367f479e5b28380',0,'','uKtkRmWa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2214,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069441923,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Good Movies','The most romantic film I can think of is \"Show Me love\", also known as \"Fucking Amal\" ','1a60f41ed22cdbd28b627d9ca92b7543',0,'','pBQ8kTSe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2215,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069628851,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Good Movies','\"Amelie (sp)\", \"Untamed heart\" & \"El Hijo de la Novia\" (\"Son of the Bride\") are fantastic romantic feel good movies.','4d09eaf5fc738c962c9c602774dbb324',0,'','BQ3Gioq4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2216,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069833993,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Good Movies','Try Wong kar-wai\'s \"In the Mood for Love\" and \"Chungking Express.\"  Also Tom Twyker\'s \"The Princess and the Warrior,\" Julio Medem\'s \"Los Amantes de Circulo Polar,\" and if you\'re looking for something with a happy ending, \"Amelie.\"','02704af90fdb196ca0ed17b5951626fd',0,'','Fv9g271k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2217,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070670327,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kbwiebe','Re: Good Movies','bertolucci\'s \"besieged\" and julio bedem\'s \"lovers of the arctic circle are two very romantic films.  ','a2627fbdcf11ffc2e28429442f5ecb58',0,'','5w6Qfcqr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2218,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1070679250,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Good Movies','Hi Ben, I recognise your name from YMDb (in the olden days when it worked). Good to have you aboard.','6f82e36ffd815c462c6eae49ed610803',0,'','MSRDoAs1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2219,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071066938,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: Good Movies','Here\'s some Asian flicks you might want to check out :\n\nFailan Sang-hoon Ahn \nChristmas in August Hur Jin-Ho\nSassy Girl Gwak Jae-Young\nLove Wind-Love Song Park Dae-Young\nIf the Sun Rises in the West Eun Lee (not great, but fun)\nBus Stop Lee Mi-Yeon\nAsako in Ruby Shoes Jae-Young (weird love story)\nCamel Park Ki-Yong (man and woman cheating, rather \n       unique flick)\nOasis Lee Chang Dong\nSennen-Tabito Jinsei Tsuji (masterpiece)\nLaundry Junichi Mori (fun and different love story)\nIl Mare Hyun-Seung Lee\nOne Fine Spring Day Hur Ji Ho\nMarriage is a crazy thing Yoo Ho (different love story)\nTwilight Samurai Joji Yamada (not romance, but a \n         deep love story, along the lines of The Road Home)\nSuzhou Ye Lou (different sort of love story)\nDolls Takeshi Kitao (not romance, different love story)\n','cd22eaefc7b4fb0feb3b4dbb2403078b',0,'','wM5s0cre',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2220,513,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071080701,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Good Movies','Kudos for including two little-seen South Korean films every lover of cinema, and romance in particular, MUST watch: [i]Christmas in August[/i] and [i]A Fine Spring Day[/i]. Hur Jin-Ho is a genius, and kcpuden1 is a person of exquisite taste, as all others listed are fine films.   ','64cd1d6972e2da0e670f785c915377d4',0,'','1ZFTt4dv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2221,514,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048078153,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Metropolis (2001/II)','i just got videocd version of this animation and could not find so much info and rating about this? is it worht to see ? and also does it have any relationshipw tih Metrolpolis(1927) ?','e40b312388471524a8dabaf9c8ce78b9',0,'','hFRZrBfc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2222,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048081624,1,0,1,1,1,1,'filmgirlsurfer1','drug films','does anyone have any recommendations for films dealing with drug use?  I want nitty-gritty....nothing that makes drug use look pretty.  thanx','6a48eb12b52fb8ff8debb067c6243ee8',0,'','rL9Eulxz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2223,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048087191,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa','Re: drug films','1. Panic in Needle Park\n2. Trainspotting\n3. Basketball Diaries\n','0ff15bb657a3d91adb545baf3c537b62',0,'','en6ELkMc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2224,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048117740,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: drug films','Christiane F.\nRequiem for a Dream\nDrugstore Cowboy','aff447fdf55e29f1d74a0b0e1bd577c3',0,'','pH6KjsG7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2225,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048124062,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: drug films','the man with the golden arm ,the connection,a hat full of rain,monkey grip.','0ec0ef7856e8282b4d9cdaa75531a4bf',0,'','GnN1q2Rm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2226,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048170666,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: drug films','Requeim For A Dream\nTrainspotting\nTraffic','6d2da69da996dc04bd71473ab3156549',0,'','NMFbGPeR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2227,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048391461,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: drug films','The Acid House Uk Film\nFrom The Book By Irving Welsh','cff8c3db20f85fc6434a0cae0831326b',0,'','rmDUNgul',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2228,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048586667,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: drug films','Trainspotting\nBlow\nCheech and Chong\'s Up In Smoke','de0a8bb61187dc9941706d2c1a3aba6d',0,'','cmSjhZyl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2229,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048717422,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gimferrer','Re: drug films','GIA (with Angelina Jolie and Golden Globe winner)\n\nBoogie Nights (PT Anderson)\n\n\nArrebato (Ivan Zulueta)\n\n','3540d8fc76167ff5880779466629b5ba',0,'','YpRzdvQw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2230,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048831035,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: drug films','a rare aussie film called \"pure shit\" is pretty close to the mark decadent as a heroin film can be it was made in the 70\'s and is as scarce as a junkie with teeth & clear skin.','dc3f66fc6660a8b32996c4bfd3d8538d',0,'','UoGTlJr6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2231,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049758151,1,0,1,1,1,1,'desy','Re: drug films','Naked Lunch, Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas, Altered States, Performance & Blue Velvet. There\'s also Jacob\'s Ladder, but that wasn\'t exactly drug-use in the conventional way...','64008edbfa9e6a65aa4dec2ae254a2a4',0,'','6DLJ7VEi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2232,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049823269,1,0,1,1,1,1,'llbarks','Re: drug films','Dark Days -incredible documentarty on the moles of NYC.','d757b71942d76b93744cd241d05f4456',0,'','iktdzeYS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2233,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064092459,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: drug films','[b]Trainspotting[/b]\n[b]Blow[/b]\n[b]Traffic[/b]\n[b]Requiem for a Dream[/b] (it’s one of the films that have left me feeling more disturbed than most other films I’ve ever seen).','00a29c1af3e20092b0a0721861244501',0,'','a68KLHQ3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2234,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064781899,1,0,1,1,1,1,'dixie','Re: drug films','\"H\". Grueling performances by two actors in a basement apartment. Lean setting with focus on the dependent relationship of the man and woman when one decides to quit heroin. Such intensity of acting it will leave you sweating.\n\nAnother pretty good movie with graphic depictions of the drug scene is Salton Sea with Val Kilmer.','88cb6e0de95df55424a8018ad6359e68',0,'','bAEKDFuV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2235,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065286430,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jasjesbe','Re: drug films','If you consider alcohol like a drug, the best movies on the subject by far are not foreign, but American. Namely, [b]Days of wine and roses[/b] and [b]The lost weekend[/b].','103a14e75e39e2556b70b48db81f1bb6',0,'','MwFysudG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2236,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065411061,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: drug films','I just read a great book called ADDICT by STEPHEN SMITH\nIt\'s supposed to be made into a movie soon..\n\nCheck out www.addict.org.uk','85f4ceb548e4ae9f487f64d866926e78',0,'','aHbpgKB5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2237,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065730225,1,0,1,1,1,1,'texan_gal','Re: drug films','Requiem for a Dream\nTraffik (the UK version and not Traffic)','f5a7eeb33460bb4a6710f7fc2d52dbf3',0,'','BfqsVPRJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2238,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066746317,1,0,1,1,1,1,'christopherbaggins','Re: drug films','try Permenent Midnight and if you want a depiction of alcoholism pick up Barfly starring Mickey Rourke in one of his all-time great roles.(makes Nick Cages drunk in Leaving Las Vegas look like a lightweight','1643d8f580c6c3736f87ee583cbe7924',0,'','UVYdmizf',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2239,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066922510,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: drug films','I herad Grits by Niall Griffiths is going to be a movie soon too.  Is this true?  Grits is similar to Trainspotting.','46176a142441a38caed430e848d31211',0,'','3cA8seCp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2240,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067959208,1,0,1,1,1,1,'KS','Re: drug films','If you can, check out, \"Last Exit\" - a powerful new low budget thriller from Denmark. It deals with a relationship where heroine, alcohol and weed are used daily to numb there non-existance lives. There is also a back story of gangters and hookers...\nShot in a very gritty realistic style, it\'s a quirky, surreal and quite disturbing. Check out the official homepage www.lastexitproductions.dk/lastexit.html for more info. ','704bdd64fb3de2b5426f375b998a5f7c',0,'','wfcp2ZRb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2241,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069488375,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: drug films','Two great documents: \"THROUGH A BLUE LENSE\" (Canada 2001) Vancouver police has filmed the life of drug users in the streets of Vancouver. \"GRASS\" (Canada 2000) Takes a look at the (US) history of marijuana, or rather the politics involving it.. And I mentioned the \"ADDICT\" book earlyer, I should have mentioned that it\'s the real life story of \"a twenty-six year drug and drink horror trip from riches to insanity in the gutter\" of the author, Stephen Smith. It should b screened 2003, so everybody should have plenty of time to READ THE BOOK..;-)    ','f7b19fb5fd77bb233bb7db34bbe1484f',0,'','SFcZHq1N',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2242,515,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1069574781,1,0,1,1,1,1,'petty_anonymous_writer','Re: drug films','[b]La Ville Est Tranquille (The Town is Quiet)[/b] is a very good film, yet overlooked in the States. RFAD is a great one also, but that\'s already been mentioned a number of times.','8892c68931e0d3ed13f1ece31bbd0ae5',0,'','Qlb5G3oe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2243,516,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048162985,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Brutus_for_friend','No Man\'s Land','Can anyone tell me where can I find a really good film critique for \"No Man\'s Land\". I have to submit one for a research paper. No newspaper critiques, because those are easily accessable to everyone','44af44ca0ffd24d4abddcd005611cba3',0,'','56xpzXLT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2244,516,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048208581,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: No Man\'s Land','Check out Rotten Tomatoes.  They have numerous reviews on No Man\'s Land.  Good Luck!','c3fa36338bd0d80d5592ed36c170e649',0,'','am9DQsHR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2245,517,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048166208,1,0,1,1,1,1,'producer','Film Music','To anyone with music needs,\nGracy Studios creates original scores for films and various other types of media, as well as pre-made tracks to pick and choose from.  If you are in search of good quality audio that\'s suited to your needs, please contact me at producer@gracystudios.com .  \nIf you\'d like to hear samples of our work, check out our website at www.gracystudios.com \nThanks,\nSteve Gracy','d96d43103900416631fc6dc06285bc35',0,'','pD1Ahd9M',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2246,518,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048227782,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cyberwave','Traci lords is the best ever','here\'s a nice clip off of her\n\nhttp://www.celebs-n-vintage.com/phptest/MovieBoard.php','0e3a5be6a13789d2c2d55149bc21e778',0,'','1w8i76BX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2247,518,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048391396,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Traci lords is the best ever','What Porn Star or Actress ???','2fe1162ae699fe43942f3a3e75a3f3bb',0,'','XZWwYpq7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2248,518,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048391607,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cyberwave','Re: Traci lords is the best ever','Common pornstar :)))\n\nJulia roberts is the best actress!\n\nTraci lords cant act that good :P','12d9133b77cd6668cbea53db91e73b16',0,'','acq3kQvj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2249,518,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049677882,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Traci lords is the best ever','Who is Julia Roberts \n? is she an actress ? i thought she was just playing her Wide Mouthed self all the time.','208f2515f7b13b55dcecb37aeacdeca6',0,'','dB9Jo3q4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2250,518,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049695180,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Traci lords is the best ever','Personally, give me Nina Hartley, Ginger Lynn and Marilyn Chambers over Traci anyday.','a00ee13b1b8a8370ad57f640b3f511fb',0,'','v03N9Uoq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2251,519,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048387377,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kyutest','\"In the bosom of the Enemy\" a really great filipino film','i just saw a really great film from the Philippines. \"In the bosom of the Enemy\" sypnosis:during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines,a village woman agrees to be the wet nurse to an invading army captain\'s newborn son in exchange for the freedom of her husband falsely accused and incarcerated for charges of insurrection. \nThis film will make you think because of its complicated story. Very involving to the audience. i find this film artistic..haven\'t seen anything like it before.\n','acdabd30bfb1a6027cc9863ab11e98f6',0,'','UDotjmxq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2252,519,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051607495,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','Re: \"In the bosom of the Enemy\" a really great filipino film','I NEVER LIKED THE MOVIE.ITS TOO MELO DRAMATIC, IT LACKS ESSENTIAL STANDINGS THOU IT TELLS ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES IN TIME OF THE JAPANESE OCCUPATION. NOTHING IS NEW, IT DOESN\'T GIVE ANYTHING BUT BREAST EXPOSURES!','a3ef65f531875112116f1b150d561e10',0,'','fFjqEU1v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2253,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048446807,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','...it\'s when people say a film is crap just because they don\'t understand it. Seriously, check out some of the IMDB user comments for films like 2001, Citizen Kane and Breathless. You\'d be amazed at the idiocy of some people. If I remember correctly, one user said of 2001, \"I didn\'t fail to understand this film. It just makes no sense\". I prefer this site to IMDB. The people on here display a far higher degree of intelegence.','511ff12e027f70608a287d323331e01c',0,'','P3XGaiCm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2254,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048602042,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','On the other hand, many people praise for example Bergman\'s films, saying \"It\'s grat\" even they don\'t understand anything. Any critic would tell you: Tarkovsky\'s \"The mirror\" is fantastic...but they coudln\'t say what\'s it about. Is this normal?','6cd79db47d46927763e9a5a4d6a42583',0,'','FLHn12RW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2255,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048610487,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','Can anyone say what Mirror is about? It doesn\'t have a linear plot structure.\n\nI know that when I saw it I thought it was a masterpiece, but I couldn\'t tell you what it was about until I had seen it several more times. Isn\'t it maybe just a series of reminiscences and events?','44a6f5b2ed8df9c196c241bf3d81bf46',0,'','nZxPtQsB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2256,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048711865,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','There\'s nothing wrong with failing to understand a film. I just don\'t like people who take the view of \"I don\'t get it therefore it is crap\". ','143eb9cac9948b5b24a122605edf824d',0,'','yuJAteiM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2257,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048729676,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','Point taken, but everyone has a right to their own opinion. Even if the accepted view is that Citizen Kane is not only  a masterpiece (which it surely is) but also that it is the greatest film ever made (which I think it isn\'t), the view of any dissenter is just as valid as that of anyone else.','a6aa30c707d27166b7cc284b7cdad342',0,'','lW8Dnask',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2258,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048730109,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','mirror was about chidhood, memory,russia in the 20th century,family,(tarkovsky\'s)he wanted to show his parents that he loved them,a very personal film,and a masterpiece i don\'t think it is necessary to understand a film for that film to be a masterwork,but i think i understand mirror well\nas it shfts from one era to another an appreciation of russian history  helps which i have in spades,ah tarkovsky what a visionary!\n','ff0ca726e7daa6cd089bc14481670c01',0,'','Lnio5lzp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2259,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048770422,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','i think the answer for \"why some great non-english masterpieces are underrrated\" is because unlike Hollywood productions foreignfilms are hard to understand ( for sometimes i see some movies of unfamiliar cultures to me)and to evaulate,to criticise,to find( yes there are dvds of most of them but what about the rest?),mention about( cos i could find no body till i have found this site to talk about non-english movies)...\nin order to get the full taste of foreignfilms you should have a profound culturel-historical-social background of that nation!\nfor example: Yol-1982 ( The Way) when i read critiques of some people who have seen it, i imeediately realize that almost nobody could understand it except a few who had a bit knowledge of that time of Turkey...\ni think that is why ( beside the handicaps to find them ) some masterpieces films are underrated...!!!\nAlso i think \"high-rated\" movies have a handicap about dissaponting; because most of us choose films-to-see according to rating or awards but many times i realized that expecting so much from a film will dissapoint me and that is why i curse on them :).\nFor example: All About My Mother, i expected so much but could find nothing :) yep i m sure most of you loved it but i did not ! like this example there are so many films that i dont even understand what it tells!!!\nThat does not mean \"foolish-stupidity\" but it means that evey one has his opwn taste of art; films...That is why i think it is nonsense to talk about top-list-critics-preferances...etc.','3206b1013412dd4ebcbfb9fc740b9b90',0,'','8WbxtXnT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2260,520,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049241992,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: If there\'s one thing I can\'t stand....','Totally agree on All About my Mother...I thought it was really going to be good but instead turned into an exercise in depravity.','4688642d543b534097b09b4cb49fe260',0,'','ynJGkPzt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2261,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048580602,1,0,1,1,1,1,'csicmga','Musical movie of all times','Seven brides for seven brothers \nThe Sound of music\nwere the two which had all the great music ,i really loved the two movies i think they are the musical movies of all times.........','7cab3051418cc64ef474b2ef29c74e0a',0,'','xwzPrQnv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2262,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048610318,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Musical movie of all times','Let\'s get this straight people.\n\nAs far as music goes, the best movie musical is without doubt West Side Story. Others with excellent music include Les Parapluies de Cherbourg and My Fair Lady.\n\nThere are musicals which rate as excellent films with merely very good music, Cabaret and Oliver! to name but two.\n\nThen there are those best forgotten - which I won\'t name.','aa08ad6370698147c9c089015c7d5aab',0,'','2NnHMs6D',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2263,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048712528,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa','Re: Musical movie of all times','\"Cannibal: the Musical\"!!!','f6e769f82d97f72445ba71af12cd04bb',0,'','ACpDvNMx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2264,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048770805,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Musical movie of all times','in fact i used to hate musical; they are not like a film but like a long-video clip...\nbut after i had seen Moulen Rogue i realized that Musicals can be \"arty\" as a film and moreover you dont need to bore yourself to see a too-arty classical film, instead a good-plot,superb-acts,great-musics and dances...\ni recommend:\nMoulen Rogue\nCabaret\nChicago ( i didnot see but probably a good-film of genre)\n--------------------\nWest Side Story ( it wont fullfill your expectations if you r not American or &#304;talian or if u r not 50or more years old)','dbff312ec40aa3fa74d55cdfd624d504',0,'','qdMjeRKJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2265,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048781351,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Musical movie of all times','Hate to disagree Tuncay, but West Side Story fulfilled my expectations and I\'m a British 19-y-o. One\'s reception of the film is more likely to depend on one\'s personal feelings as regards musicals.','05778e28eeb7c2abcc29875607acf159',0,'','daQpnzqK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2266,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048799776,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: Musical movie of all times','there r exceptions...!!! and i saw it when i was 15yo perhaps that is why i did not like it but also Gaz u r a music-student, your preferances may naturally be far more different than those who just listen to music like me...','53820f30bed63a5db2d0edf351e9391b',0,'','JK2wpbc9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2267,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048830835,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Musical movie of all times','i prefer grateful dead,& miles davis live concerts on video\ni also have a mean john coltrane tape which is amazing ,i wonder how much charlie parker is out there? latcho drom is a favourite of mine & swing being a huge fan of django reinhardt it especially moves me.west side story is a great film,the tunes will live forever.','83224471ed4165caf4a99dc119d438fb',0,'','XDxgS7A5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2268,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048908061,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tastlikeburning','Re: Musical movie of all times','Please don\'t shun me, I hated West Side Story. Don\'t get me wrong I LOVE the music, I can\'t get dressed in the morning unless \"I feel pretty\" is playing in the background but I cannot watch that film. ','075dc6386dc91d93490763286cf85f3d',0,'','J291SxNm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2269,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048965435,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Musical movie of all times','After all the praise I\'ve heaped on the film, I\'m inclined to agree that while the score for West Side Story is the best, I\'d much rather watch My Fair Lady - it\'s funnier for one thing.','dfe7617f00b50e4e9b3cb1a07b19cfa5',0,'','ykE7XNvc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2270,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048978246,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Musical movie of all times','Are we allowed to include animations? If so, The Lion King is without a doubt my favourite musical. If not, I think West Side Story and Singin in the Rain are two of the few truely great musicals. ','029195ff897ad549f98b52c0875fdeef',0,'','TdwBEFpy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2271,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049368503,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','Re: Musical movie of all times',' The Umbrellas of Cherbourg is outstanding... If we\'re allowed to include non-foreign films, I also loved Dancer In The Dark-not your typical musical, but what a great film... However, I absolutely HATED Moulin Rouge-the WORST film I\'ve seen in a long time, musical or otherwise. It\'s a shame too, since I really like Nicole Kidman and Ewan McGregor...','8ce6dedaa10e34c45d9326303c4f0a00',0,'','NH74Aaip',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2272,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049406362,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Musical movie of all times','Actually, Dancer in the Dark IS a foreign film. I think it was made in Finland(I\'m not sure). But I don\'t really think of it as a Musical.','d4cd5864e46ee496c824e5c95f931248',0,'','PlNwE2qA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2273,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049696016,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Musical movie of all times','Lars Von Trier would probably disagree with you.','53f0f0a325d6877f4c48ce854b8c9f1f',0,'','sGtdxUhw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2274,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049830305,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Musical movie of all times','Doesn\'t anyone else here cherish the wonderful Fred Astaire classics- Top Hat, The Band Wagon, Swing Time, Funny Face?\n\nThe Band Wagon, Singin in the Rain and the Indian film Pakeezah are the finest musical films! All 3 are splendid visually as well as musically. ','b58171c5290d7e40bd9e62567e5a2a3c',0,'','kwdVpJD6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2275,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049839576,1,0,1,1,1,1,'desy','Re: Musical movie of all times','South Park: The Movie, in which the quality of the tunes can be taken for granted if you consider the subject matter. I also used to love The Nightmare Before Christmas - until I introduced my two year-old niece to it. . .','8e623169fcb412e233fe2c6b3277e346',0,'','9hyodWqx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2276,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049846370,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Musical movie of all times','Astaire movies have great charm, but would not rate particularly high on my list, as other musicals have _better_ songs (my opinion) and were written as coherent works. Astaire musicals, and I may be wrong, used the best songs from otherwise unremarkable Broadway musicals.\n\nAs for the South Park movie, I can take it or leave it, though Uncle F*cka and It\'s Easy Mmmkay are notable masterpieces.','b5c35563ad867eedea05e7b23834b0ad',0,'','PljgYNpx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2277,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051062404,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pour1up4me','Re: Musical movie of all times','Check out \"The Hole\"(Dong).  A great tribute to Grace Chang.','05a2944cfdfeeb46620328faac3ae272',0,'','C2wdjcHm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2278,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051449448,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Musical movie of all times','I like The Wizard of Oz,maybe because its song Over the Rainbow,the song is really good .','ae991fb3a67879101d88f18223d87c73',0,'','HJF7EuVb',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2279,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051491841,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: Musical movie of all times','The Jungle Book!( Disney-Animated)','c3b3f0a385c64c5e87bcac2122fd7f1f',0,'','ilBLx3MN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2280,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052485890,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: Musical movie of all times','Little Shop of Horrors!','f957c2f6246fbbd1331fd01a385f21b6',0,'','v2tCGFZM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2281,521,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052710589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tumadretumadre','Re: Musical movie of all times','My favorite would probably be west side story... of course... and you guy\'s will hate me for this... but I think South park has had some of the best, not too cheesy songs in years and years (and years).','450b0c3aea527b1ba048da8733787aa2',0,'','kFAbuav6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2282,522,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048628356,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Leon123','Los Angeles places to rent foreign/hard-to-find movies','Any Angelenos here? Do you know if there are video rental places specializing in foreign/independent/hard-to-find movies?  Blockbuster, 20-20 and Hollywood Video have only limited supply of such movies.  Thanks in advance!','b661bebdb3dbd6e32f988d3b4839673f',0,'','jUktvp7b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2283,522,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048722765,1,0,1,1,1,1,'lena03','Re: Los Angeles places to rent foreign/hard-to-find movies','Rocket Video--276 N. La Brea, Hwd, 323-965-1100, www.rocketvideo.com\nEddie Brandt\'s--5006 Vineland, NoHo, 818-506-4242\nVidiots--302 Pico Blvd., Santa Monica, 310-392-8508, www.vidiotsvideo.com ','77c67e8dabb2bd4dffbfcfb97ff364b9',0,'','clAvBDXK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2284,522,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048724434,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Leon123','Re: Los Angeles places to rent foreign/hard-to-find movies','thanks Lena!  I\'ll check these places out.','9fd8fd6059bfcb849425a602aa883b1d',0,'','2tSpuPWY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2285,523,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1048836201,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Fab521','Looking for a 1939 French film...','La fin du jour -- aka The End of the Day\n\ndirected by Julien Duvivier\n\nAny ideas on where to find either the film or the script?\n\nAll responses would be much appreciated.\n\n--D','02090c33b35f4c1ffb4d8fddc0d680c4',0,'','fixqZeo9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2286,523,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049161892,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Lafleurette','Re: Looking for a 1939 French film...','I have this movie but  without english subtitles. If you want to get in touch is my e-mail:\nOdettedonahue159@comcast.net','40c0b1428dd9d1cba861e7b642918143',0,'','pMhBDC7J',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2287,523,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049264791,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Fab521','Re: Looking for a 1939 French film...','Thanks for your response.  I\'ve already found the film (on the hard-to-find board via another poster\'s response)   I must say that I\'m delightfully impressed with the responses here--thanks for your help.\n\nAll the best,\n\n--D ','dd670028fb01431c92679f721024b36b',0,'','ZY9XB3Lt',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2288,524,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049001989,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cearra','Kieslowski','I am a big fan of Kieslowski films and have watched them numerous times.  I\'ve always wondered about the scenes in the Three Colours that feature an old woman slowly walking to deposit a bottle or trash into a bin.  A variation of this scene also appears in Veronique.  I have my own interpretation of this scene, but I was wondering if any of you had interesting theories?  Does anyone know what the director wanted to convey?','40edb4890c7d350fbf9ecce6b4b30d08',0,'','3aMnP5pY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2289,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049143283,1,0,1,1,1,1,'lwaller','ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','Has anyone seen the 1990\'s Dutch film \"Character?\"  It sounds like a thriller.  I am thinking about buying it because of my family\'s scandanavian heritage, but it did not play where I live and I do not know anything about it.  I know you don\'t know me, but I generally like foreign films, \"Europa, Europa\" and \" All the mornings of the world\" being two of my favorites.','40ca11ae4a0630a78ea307de69da980b',0,'','azcbmQPB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2290,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049160258,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','I have Character and Europa, Europa DVD\'s.  I\'ve seen both movies in the past, since I have lots of DVD\'s, I haven\'t had time to watch the DVD\'s yet, but will be soon.  Sorry, I\'ve never seen All the mornings of the world, but if you like Europa, Europa, its a safe bet, you like Character.  I thought Character was on a par with Europa, Europa, both being very good movies.  ','6033b353e4f843af853c0bdd861ca586',0,'','7VLQoh0i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2291,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049186715,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','I agree. Character was an intriguing drama and study of people and was always tense and suspenseful. It won the Oscar for Best Foreign Film a few years back.','8c56549c3c1198266747e1cdde096cae',0,'','gC7HonFN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2292,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051155300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manicmo','Re: ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','I believe Character is the movie about a guy who lives in a town brought up by a mother in humble surroundings. He doesn\'t know who his father is. He discovers him in some way I have forgotten but it turns out he is the mayor, a big shot and a brute, rejects his son. Its very dark and depressing, very well acted. The Dutch make some remarkable films.','738fe0c9271803952b2615cbfa494ff5',0,'','Eudh7Pbj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2293,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051449113,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','I like this film ,especially its plot.I saw it on the television.\n','8694d5ffd8b15d7e29b1fe4fefff1347',0,'','dYzZ4GR9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2294,525,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051854403,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','Re: ANYONE SEEN CHARACTER?','i saw the film last 1999 here in the Philippines and i find it very interesting. the movie disturbs me a lot especially the confrontation of truth... (\",) by the way, have you seen a filipino film? what do you think of it? ','154de10c8497097498ea01b40ef88d5c',0,'','xvBrAsR8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2295,526,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049243340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wanderingstar','R.I.P. Leslie Cheung','According to the Internet Movie Database, Cantonese actor Leslie Cheung committed suicide.  A fine actor, noted for his roles in Chen Kaige\'s Farewell My Concubine, Wong Kar-Wai\'s Happy Together and Ashes of Time, John Woo\'s A Better Tomorrow, and Ronny Yu\'s The Bride With White Hair.  Leslie Cheung will definitely be missed.','57c03619d7a7fe699605eee66d84ece0',0,'','p4CGoxPv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2296,527,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049255695,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ygie','great  music in films.','I absolutely enjoyed the music to \"Mostly Martha\" \n','ffd0ec5a0ad7037d173eb30a8c3c429e',0,'','NHuV29Ci',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2297,527,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049406411,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: great  music in films.','I like film scores by John Williams and Elmer Bernstein. I also like the music in all of Woody Allen\'s films.','c660a5e31c5e1403261f19ef6c30de6f',0,'','jGwQd0zo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2298,527,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049695332,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: great  music in films.','Ennio Morricone\'s score for Cinema Paradiso is the best ever.','6147fe384559bbda7aaa31d0771193c9',0,'','mXJBwRx9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2299,527,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049716652,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: great  music in films.','NO.','973aeecfaf3c206bb0c33ccd79a23c7d',0,'','k6fYaZb8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2300,527,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049803904,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Re: great  music in films.','Phenomenal Zoltán Jeney\'s music for Hungarian masterpiece \"Sindbad\" is best ever. Also music in Wong Kar-Wai\'s movies.','b8b2f5a9e054830d5f49c8f2031780f6',0,'','PVAp0b5u',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2301,528,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049307376,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cassiehkvp','HKVP Radio Tribute to Leslie Cheung','Hong Kong Vintage Pop Radio (http://www.hkvpradio.com), a Cantonese oldies Internet radio station, is currently playing a tribute to Leslie.  Visit the website and join the message board to discuss his life, achievements and your personal thoughts, or tune in to\nhttp://www.live365.com/stations/velvet_ant and listen now.\n\nLeslie in Concert 1997 at the Hong Kong Coliseum will be broadcast on Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 10 PM EST, only at HKVP Radio.\n\nOur thoughts go out to Leslie\'s fans, family and friends.\n','53c6bccb5080e99bd5e86db7e6943856',0,'','guHkq9nR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2302,529,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049419847,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jungle_007','Guy Ritchie group','What are your views on Guy?!?\n\nBut yeh feel free to check out and join my new and soon to be best yahoo group on Guy Ritchie director of Lock Stock and Snatch... thanx!\n\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oi-dont-snatch/\n','cdb33bcff4931c9a25b7bc83383acb28',0,'','R7pazmQ0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2303,529,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049431811,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Guy Ritchie group','Maybe I\'m alone here, but I think it\'s best not to ask most ForeignFilms.com regulars their views on Guy Ritchie...','bdf497948c62a16973797a7083aa94c1',0,'','z7CacL2r',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2304,529,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049451313,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wanderingstar','Re: Guy Ritchie group','I think you\'re probably right, Gaz.','2f51ebb392a71e4772d9d5430021af3d',0,'','vEhxFTmz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2305,530,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049599353,1,0,1,1,1,1,'sally-1','Giggleshorts International Comedy Film Festival wants your shorts','Giggleshorts looking for your funny shorts\n\nGiggleshorts Comedy short film festival in Toronto is calling for entires, no entry fee, VHS , dvd , mini dv formats to be screened.\nComedy Films, videos, spoofs, commercials, sketches, bizzare projects.\nonly criteria\nmust be comedy and Under 15 mintues.\n\nsee www.giggleshorts.com for submission detials\n\nkeep giggling\n','9c7865210d8b44daf8e1e979e1312f2e',0,'','G8JVai9e',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2306,531,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049611307,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cl819','Amelie!','hey, i am going absolutely insane trying to find a movie script for the movie Amelie (Le destin fableux de Amelie Poulain...or something like that, i don\'t speak french haha).  If ANYONE can help it it\'ll be greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much.','a08e07239f055a995778f45dd2729d59',0,'','2ygjHlXu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2307,531,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049619686,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Amelie!','They have some on eBay, but just check Google and one will surely suffice its head.','ba6e9dfe880ddaac2302749310376e0d',0,'','HWol6ZDc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2308,531,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049649603,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cl819','Re: Amelie!','well i looked on google for about an hour and i didn\'t find it.  that\'s why i came here :-D  but thanks anyway.','8dfd14204f05188d92529ed8fd7c8ea4',0,'','flDMZRd2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2309,532,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049667803,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Reg Varney (Where Are You ??? )','Reg Varney is one of Britain`s Greatest Comedy Actors starring in two of Britain`s best Box Office films of all time,St Trinians The Great Train Robbery,and The Never to be Forgotten Classic Trilogy In The On The Buses Films by Hammer Films plus he can half knock out a good old tune on the Piano-He was born in 1916 on A London Bus and invented Black Hair gel giving it to the world.His best mate was called Jack who had the original Catchphrase,Ha Ha,Ha ha.He did make a suprise Wave to the camera On The Big Breakfast show in 1993,But where is Reg now.He was the first Original A List Star of British Cinema He Received a salary of almost £ 75 for Holiday on the Buses in 1973 but lost half of this as he had Illegally parked his Bus on a Double yellow line.Reg we love you there must be a part in Eastenders for you.','2c815247d150d199d5ba3c5f39915625',0,'','AJYmujz1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2310,532,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049675564,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Reg Varney (Where Are You ??? )','Now Babs Windsor has had to take a year out there ought to be a place behind the bar for the original 70s greaseball, but not if has-beens like Shane Richie keep sticking their oar in.','33bcd64cb28c382178ee6a1e7e233bab',0,'','nzhFBNCc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2311,533,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049678032,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Who Is The Best Ever Actor In...','The role of a Bus Driver','5d9aa84f890779726fd9e5b4d900e9d6',0,'','mde5PLZc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2312,533,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049680115,1,0,1,1,1,1,'cl819','Re: Who Is The Best Ever Actor In...','well he\'s not from a foreign film.\n\nbut hands down\n\nChris Farley in Billy Madison.\n\n=)','d53314d57c41f2d11659f35276185b83',0,'','VwyETaQj',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2313,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049803714,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','Krzysztof Kieœlowski is more respected and popular abroad than in Poland. I heard that Swedish people doesn\'t like Ingmar Bergman\'s films (he\'s respected more for theatrical plays he directed). Do you know other great directors who are underrated in their own countries?','e7d63e2b2e9498b64db36787cd00a517',0,'','Qj89pohG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2314,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049810417,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','I\'ve heard that Woody Allen is underrated in America.','b21e149c65c90f4fe69ddc051a482666',0,'','KXlpjRer',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2315,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049818311,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','The French have much more respect for Brian DePalma.  ','f51fc104582defd7d3afe7bbf758a363',0,'','FVz5BjRx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2316,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049820861,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wanderingstar','Re: GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','The French have a lot more respect for selected American directors over actual Americans: specifically David Lynch, Jim Jarmusch, De Palma, for example.','bb8f98284413a8fa9ead40ddc33c6fc2',0,'','Cp3j6Vq4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2317,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049865756,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','Of course, Kurasawa.  Nagisa Oshima.  I imagine most respected Japanese directors are appreciated most outside of Japan.  You can probably throw Takashi Miike in there as well.','debf77e326bac5f6d943262849ee202d',0,'','a8yiHBtz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2318,534,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049869309,1,0,1,1,1,1,'lena03','Re: GREAT DIRECTORS UNDERRATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES','Almodovar.  I heard from some Spanish students that his movies aren\'t so revered in Spain.  ','a220613b0544e908029085c3b7cba9a9',0,'','XBCnTbgJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2319,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049803794,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Hello. Do you know any good film touching upon the problem of suicide? Recently I\'ve seen a beaufiful movie \"Ratcatcher\", directed by the British debutant, Lynne Ramsay. It\'s about a teenage boy who slowly loses illusions and ability to live. I also like other \"suicidal\" films: Philippe Garrel\'s \"The wind of the night\" (although it\'s rather cold than moving) and Bergman\'s \"Face to face\". Wondering why suicide has always been taboo in film (Bresson\'s \"Mouchette\" was even banned in some countries), I ask you for good recommendation.\n','335863ba61a2109630d76b89470fa039',0,'','pumtCqKN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2320,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049807048,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','If you can get a copy of it, Malle considered his film Le Feu Follet one of his best works. It\'s undoubtedly one of the key films about suicide, though I must say that I haven\'t made it to the end yet, despite repeated attempts to sit through it - I find it too depressing. I couldn\'t agree more about Ratcatcher though - a wonderful film.','7a96dcae6ea3b88057273958c14c0027',0,'','E8WhtDxN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2321,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049807489,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Come to think of it, it\'s probably the slow pace of Le Feu Follet that puts me off - depression doesn\'t.','2665c27ec1c4c8558dcdd05b7ab779b7',0,'','kfwCBLXr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2322,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049818016,1,0,1,1,1,1,'somegreatmovies','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','\"Taste of Cherry,\" of course.','92ae3ee02910ad950cc727e876c0c129',0,'','82A0m1LC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2323,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049818953,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Try \"Jeune Werther\"---I reviewed it for this site, so you can check out what I said about it right now...\n\nOne I\'d LIKE to see but can\'t find a copy of is \"Falling Away from Me\". If anyone has a copy they\'d consider swapping for something, please let me know...','fca158ec3058645ccc5f5060a5d62ad0',0,'','D1TwSpFd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2324,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049820913,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wanderingstar','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','\"Frozen\" is an interesting, provocative film... however, I don\'t know if I would describe it as especially \"good.\"','315fa20a198b163830537495571fbb34',0,'','dyA9oWsn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2325,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050286989,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Robert Bresson\'s brilliant \"Mouchette\" is as good as any.','9d8135782318a6429de3ca6f6985b89f',0,'','aKlqibTd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2326,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050360267,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Another Bresson film, A Gentle Woman (Un Femme Douce) is about a girl who commits suicide and the film is an exploration of her relationship with a man and why she did what she did. Not on of Bresson\'s best films, and not only about suicide, but it does explore the human heart and suicide in a thoughtful way.','fedc1d9ed1e0447dea9cd92acc0d5826',0,'','zTn4m8gA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2327,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050547987,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bjornam','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','\"Winter Light\" by Bergman.','ffdc7ff9d950b152e12818e972ee72cb',0,'','ftGMPJAR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2328,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050698319,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','The film that was just on my mind; The Loyal 47 Ronin (2 parts) by Mizoguchi. A Japanese Lord has to commit ritual suicide after attacking another who had insulted him. 47 of his Samurai followers vow revenge, that leads to their own collective deaths.  \n\nHere\'s what Darrell Davis\' book, Picturing Japaneseness (which i\'ve just been re-reading) has to say;\n\n\"the classic example of monumental style..., a masterpiece because it transcends drama,..a feast..that requires some fasting from the satiation of narrative appetite,...the fullest elaboration imaginable of the dream of pure Japaneseness\". \n\nIt is very (too?)long, slow, episodic, lacking in dramatic action (this is NOT your typical Samurai action film), majestic. Most of the significant events occur off-screen. For some, it will seem ponderous. For me, the 3 hrs 40 minutes whizzed by. As well as concentrating on Bushido (way of the Samurai) it\'s also an epic exploration of space. The camerawork, compositions and lighting are elegant, magnificent, and- for anyone who pays due care and attention- awe-inspiring. The crane shot that begins Part 2 had me gasping. The moment when Lord Asano goes to his death involves another of the greatest single demonstrations of camerawork and composition in cinema history. Neither example makes itself obvious; Mizoguchi was far too great and subtle a director to need to show off his expertise.\n\nTo think this is far from Mizoguchi\'s greatest masterpiece!  The more accessible and involving Sansho the Bailiff is merely the peak of world cinema.','b55adb9527d1fd470f18a8fe1415b69c',0,'','A39jneQK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2329,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050991317,1,0,1,1,1,1,'darkbluex','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Well a real interesting one would be \"Suicide Circle\" (2002) by Sion Sono. Its really visceral.  54 Japanese schoolgirls commit mass suicide by jumping in front of  a train at rush hour. You will not be able to take your eyes off the screen in addition to thinking about this movie for days. I would have said \'Heathers\' but thats an American film, but still darkly comic, nevetheless.','620167c2bd15357b77c30ae50a2fecb2',0,'','h0Qi643R',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2330,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051041296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Mr. West','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','The Deer Hunter perhaps?','b101e6d3d2213c448e7e75df74e48e45',0,'','s9YhcQK6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2331,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051650090,1,0,1,1,1,1,'lena03','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','how about Morvern Callar?','75e82df5663e07585ad3991dd49c5e51',0,'','bdimgzRq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2332,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052445711,1,0,1,1,1,1,'shoehorn','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Bresson\'s \"The Devil, Probably\" is an excellent and very realistic study of a young man bent on self destruction.','11ebead07952b496d3cfcb6fdea1f83e',0,'','p3mJ5qaE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2333,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052454992,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Maybe Inner Senses,','eae6420464554845ada3dd33ff3c70d1',0,'','bQp7yNqW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2334,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052485652,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','For a suicidal comedy you could try L\'Emmerdeur featuring Jacques Brel as clumsy would-be suicide case who gets on the nerves of the professional hitman played by Lino Ventura.  Apparently this film was badly remade as Buddy Buddy with Walter Matthau and Jack Lemon.','668be61f3c18b8d1381229bcfcd1bdae',0,'','l4X1vWaB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2335,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058918211,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','An interesting film that you might really enjoy is the Hanging Garden. Its about a son returning home about 15 years after he commited suicide(its a bit of a magic realist film). So its not quite about suicide, but about what would happen if you could reunite after its occurance. Its one of my favourite movies. Enjoy','72f52a82414204de294fba963de4ed63',0,'','TGdDxjE0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2336,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1059375931,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Arletty','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Series 7','138115f6bc0bdda15ea92453d8d2f867',0,'','4dfkZwtT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2337,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1059451506,1,0,1,1,1,1,'briandarr','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','There\'s a fairly recent Korean film called \"Peppermint Candy\" that begins with a man\'s suicide and traces his life backwards, carefully illustrating the steps that took him to such a desperate state.  (the film predates \"Memento\" by a year or so, and is ten times better than it!)','6e18c487a9401b7f312676384a1016a4',0,'','7x3Cdi1V',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2338,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1059583073,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','In the Mexican film i saw yesterday- Japon- a guy from the city goes to stay in a country village, intent on suicide, but comes to care more for life thanks to the gentle humanity of the elderly peasant woman who takes him in as a lodger. Influenced by Tarkovsky and Kiarostami, with a touch of Herzog, and a Bressonian minimalist approach to acting; slowly paced, beautifully shot, a quite superb film from a director of rare promise who respects the viewer and is genuinely interested in the arthouse tradition.','106d11139619675fd54e692145f36bbb',0,'','nA6YdJBM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2339,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1059718073,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','paul schrader\'s Mishima is another classic \"suicide\" film.\nvery powerful & a true story.','9150136d7b75867d8ed0ec4ee18f8421',0,'','uW4t0e1q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2340,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060054588,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Try Virgin Suicides.  Or a film starring anne bancroft as the mom and sissy spacek as the daughter.  i can\'t remember the title, but the first scene had this line, (though i\'m not sure if it\'s the first scene or the first line...)  Sissy says to Anne, \"Mom I\'m going to kill myself in two hours, so if there\'s anything you want to say, say it...\" or something like that...','4962f45093dfae0185bd7e0a1e112cb2',0,'','5URqASGQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2341,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060494445,1,0,1,1,1,1,'donna.lane','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','I felt \"Lost and Delirious\" was a very good film dealing with suicide.  Not many people saw it and that\'s a shame. ','69c1a1f641f21d1c1f5622e812c2aa3d',0,'','pcQ4zk6o',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2342,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060943213,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mezincescue','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','\"Mouchette\" is great and sad film by Bresson, also\nTry \" M.Buterfly\" with Jeremy Irons','2f7366aaec46c588dc27454c7f8ed37f',0,'','2kQEsSF5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2343,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1060983649,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pchuman','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','A very good Japanese film \"Fireworks\"','3f53ab54ccbc60bf65f9604e1c2fb78b',0,'','Nz5r7K64',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2344,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1061694924,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','The dreamlife of angels,Girl on the bridge.','a0adb8802fb103cd3169334074e3ac56',0,'','BDtePG9U',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2345,535,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1063922222,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jpmccusa-1','Re: Could you recommend any good film about suicide?','Possibly \"Ratcatcher\", though it\'s not really an issue for the main body of the work.','108504ecb0ae89b965d682cd8fc90c51',0,'','7cmW6iPe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2346,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049829744,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Steven Spielberg','I dislike the amount of crytasism given to Spielberg. It is true that as a producer he is responsible for a vast amount of crap reaching the screen. However, he is primarily known as a great director. He is undoubtably one of the greatest American directors of his generation. Although many of his films are examples of Hollywood film making, he is also capable of highly origional cinema (Saving Private Ryan practicaly re-invented the rule book on war films). \n I think that Spielberg is one of the few directors to sustain a high level of quality in his films, and is (open to controversy) a director to rank alongside Truffaut, Leone and Kurosawa.','45fcf536fc9c60493e7dc69646af82f0',0,'','pD9yHexV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2347,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049942689,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Steven Spielberg','the problem i have with spielberg is always seems too conservative,middle of the road,a populist director for the masses & boxoffice ,private ryan starts off brilliantly the goes into an episode of \"COMBAT\" which is ok,but not as good as the thin red line, greater characterisation poetry and insight into the feeling of war,also that flag waving at the end get\'s a bit hard to take!\nyes he is a good director but i wish he would really take risks.i guess u could say i\'m not a fan\n\nmy advice see some foreign war films ...pronto','0d07eeea6877ae68c5cf563e40638dcc',0,'','NneR30Uu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2348,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050079101,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','I agree that Private Ryan is a bit too patriotic. However, I still think it is one of the best war films...well, certainly in the history of American cinema, and maybe of all time. Although, The Thin Red Line was a fine film, and did put more of an emphisis on characters, I think Private Ryan is equal to it in emotional depth, raising moral and philosofical issues against the brutality of war. \n\nI would agree that Spielberg needs to take more risks. With Schindler\'s List he proved that he was capable of shocking us. I just wish he would do it more often. He seems to have a great deal of sentiment when it comes to Hollywood film making. ','021f7cc9fbe43d0efa95761cb3d2bdfc',0,'','UYaKfSEr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2349,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054152177,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: Steven Spielberg','Spielberg is technically excellent, but intellectually he\'s an infant.\n\nSaving Private Ryan:\n\nHe has a Jewish American soldier aware of the Hollocaust.  No one is aware of what\'s going on in Germany at this point.  This secrecy was the crux of Nazi evil. If anyone knew, it would definitely not be some American working class kid.\n\nThe \"horrible mess\" of WWII that every character refers to routinely throughout the film.  We were fighting the Nazi\'s, if there is any war that deserved a sense of honor, it\'s this one\n\nHis stories always bring up very serious moral issues, like \"Catch Me If You Can\" which he completely ignores.  Is it okay for a con artist to then become an expert at making sure other con artists do time?  You don\'t have to propose any answer, but can you at least acknowledge an issue?\n\nVery childish.','db31b13b59877c64d05628e0ad5dabed',0,'','UXvclG6S',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2350,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064091555,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Steven Spielberg','I [i]passionate[/i] hate Speilberg.  I wish he never did another film.  He has done 1 or 2 good films like Schindler\'s List.  Unfortunately he is responsible for so much rubbish that I wish he would never ever make another film.\n\nToo many kids in his flicks too.\n\nAlso, why do they have to end so sugary happy?\n\nSaving Private Ryan was good for the first 30 min then it was just over-patriotic rubbish.  \n\nSomeone prove me wrong.  Name one masterpiece that he’s done.  ','e76d2d868bd4bee66629be9cf9270458',0,'','ywMt8YKv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2351,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064099560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','I wouldn\'t have thought too many kids in Spielberg\'s films would be a criticism. I\'ve never understood the passionate hatred of child actors which some people seem to feel.','503ef6ae3c9c57404731953ff2cdfa7b',0,'','nLvCQZcY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2352,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064100555,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Steven Spielberg','Because kids, to 99%, can\'t act, are unnecessary for the story and in Speilberg\'s case added for cuteness - hoping to add some more viewers.','dec3222fcfc79cef001c16e2efdb8aa0',0,'','jEgLkPhX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2353,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064129696,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Steven Spielberg','He\'s perfected the formula of making hits, sacrificing something else--maybe depth, or the soul that goes in an honest to goodness film which isn\'t a \"hit\" like the films Spielberg makes.  I don\'t know what to call these films, as opposed to the drivel that comes from Spielberg...but you know what I mean.  ','28205dbbc5a649120138b88257289436',0,'','VJWeDwn3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2354,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064142016,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Most children, it may be true, can\'t act. However, less than 1% of the child population acts in films. Most child actors are exceptional beings, then they go off the rails as adults.\n\nAs for children being unnecessary for the story, I can think of very few more inaccurate statements. Here are a very small number of films in which children are vital to the plot and, furthermore, in which the acting is exemplary.\n\nAu Revoir les Enfants (1987)\nFanny and Alexander (1982)\nLe Souffle au Coeur(1971)\nLes 400 Coups (1959)\nZero de Conduite (1933)\nIvan\'s Childhood (1962)\nEuropa Europa (1991)\nLord of the Flies (1963)\nMy Life as a Dog (1985)\nRatcatcher (1999)\nThe Go-Between (1970)\nThe War Zone (1999)','9266da79c3619f1dbc092926bba6f416',0,'','dl2zSxje',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2355,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064746800,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Steven Spielberg','Minority Report was a very original, inventive and entertaining film (though most of that goes to the great Scott Frank screenplay). I have no problem with him. He is a natural storyteller a born entertainer.','3cbc82ea93ac24b1447c0ca8b707254d',0,'','LeAJkMbi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2356,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064872219,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Steven Spielberg','Minority Report, again like with so many others of his films, he just doesn\'t know when to stop.  He just have to go on and explain in excruciating detail what happened and give it a totally sugary ending.\n\n[b]*SPOILER ALERT*[/b]\nI think it should have ended with the shooting.  No matter how he tried, his fault or not, he couldn\'t prevent what was happening.  That would have been full circle - that would have been perfect.\n\nI felt the same about A.I, he just took it too far.  If it only ended with the Blue Lady. ','6620a8cb26f5076c3df6dfbf12f438c3',0,'','nEmRiGed',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2357,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064892512,1,0,1,1,1,1,'felipejuanfroilan','Re: Steven Spielberg','IDEA: SPIELBERG HAS A GREAT TECHNIQUE MAKING FILMS, AND SOME OF THE STORIES HE DEVELOPS ARE GOOD, BUT HE DOESN\'T LET LIFE ENTER HIS FILMS.\n\nEXAMPLE: ELLIOT AND E.T. CYCLING IN FRONT OF THE MOON\n\nEXPLANATION: This is the most famous moment of the film, but I don\'t feel any spetial emotion, because I can\'t feel the emotion of Elliot. \nElliot is alone with ET, nothing is more important than him, so: why does Spielberg choose a general image, showing the sightseeing, instead of focusing on the face of the obviously elated Elliot?\nMoreover, the widened moon. OK, It is a traditional and efficient idea to create a special environment. But for Elliot it\'s the same, because he isn\'t looking at the moon!\nI already know that the moon is beautiful, what I want to see is the emotion of Elliot staring at the moon, bigger than ever.\n \n\n\n\n ','b77b03eb1b83def65020b115a7acdf0c',0,'','adesilRB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2358,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064928999,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Maybe Spielberg is prolonging the Elliot facial close-up until the end, when the tension is brought to a head. The problem I have with E.T is that it seems too cold, calculating and frankly manipulative. It\'s possible to achieve poignancy without recourse to Spielberg\'s particular brand of deviousness, his clear objective of making the viewer cry.\n\nWatch, for example, Whistle Down the Wind, and compare the two. I know which film is more moving for me.','a6711934e37c597a99e0769adca1fa50',0,'','cMgtuiFv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2359,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065046765,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Knoxville','Re: Steven Spielberg','I understand that Mr. Speilberg is very popular with the masses. I\'ve seen a few of his films and been entertained by them, but they are far too family friendly for me to love them.','57aa62daab6bb3ed4d299f93d70b041d',0,'','89r2RowY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2360,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065056586,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Most of the posts I leave on this site seem to be nothing more than statements of agreement with others, but here goes again... I know exactly what you mean and could not agree more.','202bee95bfcb5c67775bf9a5d111a887',0,'','yH8Rb1gX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2361,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065901373,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','I have a question for all those who say that Spielberg\'s films have no depth, or say that they are just popcorn films - has it ever occured to you that maybe you just don\'t understant Spielberg\'s work? That maybe there was something deeper in all those films that you just missed? Oh wait, these are Hollywood film, so there couldn\'t possibly be anything of depth there. I am really angry with all the f*cking anti-Spielbergism that is plaguing the film society. Every film he makes, you all immeadiatly search for ways to critasize it. With just about any highly rated film ever made, I can imagine the ridiculous critasisms that people would throw at it had it been directed by Spielberg. If you viewed his films with an open mind (that would mean making you\'re critasisms of his films AFTER you\'ve seen them), and actually bothered to analyse them rather than dismis them at the earliest opotunity, you\'d realise that Jurassic Park is about a lot more than dinosaures. Please stop taking the view of \"it\'s Hollywood and it makes a lot of money so it MUST be crap\". \n\n...and I suppose that like all the rest of the media snobs who like to think of themselves as intellectuals, you\'ve already asumed that the reason I rate Spielberg is that I\'m a stupid teenager who thinks that cinema began with The Terminator and is unawear of any films pre-James Cameron. Well I\'l have you know that I am a teenager, and my other favourite directors are Kurosawa, Kubrick, Eisenstein, S.Ray, Fellini, Sorsese and Truffaut, so go f8ck yourselves.','183692fef182f6b83bb298d0fb9c6c8d',0,'','AaX6rSul',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2362,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065908388,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jasjesbe','Re: Steven Spielberg','When you grow older, you\'ll learn that you don\'t have to insult to make your point clear.\n\nTake it easy. It\'s just a chat.','523fcf111a34813a96e11e3922e00eaf',0,'','nClSofqQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2363,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065909837,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','Please don\'t patronise me. Don\'t talk to me like I\'m some stupid kid who doesn\'t know what he\'s talking about. I have a very high IQ (not that I really belive that you\'r intellegence can ever be determined through a test), and I recognise that I don\'t need to insult to make a point. Hawever I have a deep simering hatred of anti-Spielbergians, because among other things, their ignorance has often provoked me to hurt myself. I have some serious mental problems, and am often effected by comparitively small things.\n\nBTW, I\'m sick of you people thinking you\'re better than me just because I\'m younger than you. If you tried living my life for a while, you wouldn\'t last 2 weeks, so don\'t talk down to me as if you\'re a world-weary man of wisdom.','91054ad2ee5b616491a836b8c50fa252',0,'','ZALqbjiY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2364,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065917226,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','btw it\'s \'criticism\' not \'critasism\' - hence the word \'critic\'.','4a1f7135fd2bce8a3a41cd2e88c4ba5b',0,'','Eoe8qlx4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2365,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1065918018,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Sorry, I\'m an arsehole, I know.','5244b2b29996f47b08b552c78ee6006c',0,'','RjXEKBhA',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2366,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066036873,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Steven Spielberg','Hey Henry, I\'m a teenager too. But I have to say you\'re going a bit overboard.  Personally I have some mixed feelings towards Spielbergs work. In Jaws he did a fantastic job of sustaining the feeling of fear and anticipation. The Goonies was an incredibly fun film that captured the bright eyed inocense of children like few can. I just finished watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind and I still maintain that it is one of the most well done science fiction films to come out of the U.S.\n\nHowever... I\'m sometimes dissapointed by his films also. Minority report would have been great if it wasn\'t so bogged down by flashy action. I could see what Kubrick had imagined in AI, but Spielbergs version was a train wreck. \n\nSometimes I feel as though he is stretching a bit for the sugary ending. It isn\'t always a bad thing, just not what I\'m after. \n\nSo is he terrific? sometimes\nis he awful? sometimes\nis he somewhere in the middle? quite often.','994bd6e5b28e2f9dce784c8bf983bc92',0,'','vCKGj0xe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2367,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066096880,1,0,1,1,1,1,'felipejuanfroilan','Re: Steven Spielberg','OK, Henry, I\'ve liked a lot your message, well, \n1.- I am 22 years old.\n2.- Don\'t be so cruel with those who are not impressed by Spielberg\'s films. Non-commercial film lovers, we are just four in the world! Spielberg has received in life all praise he deserves, and more.\n3.- You are right that we sometimes like to say that we love Renoir or Mizoguchi, just to consider ourselves as good critics, like Andrew Sarris, or François Truffaut.\nSo, what I recommend is to respect everybody\'s preferences. And watch a lot, a lot of cinema, whatever you want. It\'s a pleasure, and I really feel that the more cinema I see, the more I elaborate a \"personal theory about cinema\" with some reasons to explain why I prefer one film or another one.\n4.- What I have said here, it can be said too to the film discussion about Terminator. Terminator 2 is nice, and specially, Die Hard 3, it is great!!!\n','225680e9b84c2b48261e0a18dd86b3f7',0,'','LA8cxgkz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2368,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066161912,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','Ok, I think I\'ve calmed down now. felipejuanfroilan, I respect your comments (I feel exactly the same way about forming my own theorys on film making). However you have really missed the point of my post. I am not in any way trying to infer that there is something wrong with not liking Spielberg. Everybody has their own preferences. When I talk about anti-Spielbergism, I\'m refering to people who dissmis him because he is a mainstream film maker, and take all of his films at face value. No, there is nothing wrong with disliking his style of film making, but please try to view his films with an open mind. If you go into the theatre saying to yourself \"this is gonna be crap this is gonna be crap this is gonna be crap\", then the chances of you enjoying the film are greatly minimalised. It has become so fasionable to criticise Spielberg that he has almost become a hate figure, and in my opinion that is disgusting. It\'s just another form of prejudice. ','1abcbeabf1e50c1270c2631bcbe075b9',0,'','S73Q0Rrc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2369,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066167441,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Of course it would be disgusting if Spielberg became a hate figure, but I don\'t see any evidence of thi happening. Granted, there has been some lukewarm critical reception of some of his projects, but I\'m sure he only pays attention to the audiences - when they stop watching his films, then he will maybe start to worry, but that\'s not going to happen.','b34e4ad3578441bab434e890b2e179c9',0,'','Fg8rM56h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2370,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066176428,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','There is a lot of evidence of him becoming a hate figure. When people are judging weather a director is popular or not they normally just look at how much money their films are making. But that hardly reflects how people really feel about them. The Matrix Reloaded made a lot of money, but I would have trouble finding anyone who actually thought it was any good. Just look at any of the Spielberg related discussions on the IMDB boards. People think of him as a symbol of Hollywood superficiality (though at a time when Hollywood has sunk to new lows he is really one of the few people holding it together).\n\nLet me introduce another angle of anti-Spielbergism. It\'s generaly among film buffs that he is a hate figure, which is why lots of people are still spending money to see his films, but the fact that it is fasionable to critisise him effects people, probably without them even thinking about it. \n\nThere was an ocasion recently (well, about a year ago) when I was talking about films at school (I\'m out of school now thank God). This one guy was basicaly taking the piss out of me for liking Spielberg. Now I seriously doubt if he could actually name 5 films that Spielberg has made (I\'l also add that he was the sort of person who thinks that Lagaan is the greatest film ever made in India, and thinks that the grades you get in school reflect your intellegence). Steven S has made films that appeal to children (and some of you need to realise that that doesn\'t mean they are just for children), so it is fasionable to say \"oh Spielberg isn\'t cool, his films are just for little kids. Tarantino - he\'s cool\". \n\nAnother interesting thing is that he has had such an influence on family movies of the last 20 or so years that many people sometimes need reminding that he DIDN\'T make Free Willy. \n\nIt is always going to be fasionable to criticise something that has mass appeal (the \"it makes a lot of money so it must be crap\" phenomenon). People have similar attitudes to Chaplin. He\'s had such mass popularity that he has trouble getting recognised as a serious artist and it\'s fasionable (I\'ve got to think of another word to use) to favour Keaton of Tati. I think that the critics are gradually starting to treat Tarantino in the same way.\n\nYet another angle: people critisise Spielberg because...thay can. Let me explain: I\'m not a great fan of Bergman, but I do reognise that he is a master film maker. I really didn\'t like Wild Strawberrys, and if I\'d seen it anonymously, not knowing who directed it, I might have taken the view that it was a bad film. However, knowing that it was a highly aclaimed film, and not being one to take the view that all the people who rate it are idiots,  I assumed that there was probably something that I had missed, and did managed to admire Bergman\'s technique. Now when you have the same sort of experience with a Spielberg film, you don\'t feel that you HAVE to give it a chance, because he is known as a mainstreem director and not as an artist. So if yo don\'t quite get ti, or it just doesn\'t hit you on a gut level, then you can choose to say \"it is crap\". I am certain that if he had made all of his films in French, people would take him a lot more seriously. \n\nAnyway, getting back to my origonal point, if you take a look at the IMDB discussions on Spielberg (mostly on the best/worst voards) you\'l find that he is beggining to become a hait figure.','6e4003212716215374455228c13dc69d',0,'','qlp7Cyow',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2371,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066181246,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','I don\'t want an argument, but here are some points in passing.\n\nI have always favoured Keaton over Chaplin since I was an infant. Personally, I found Keaton a much more sympathetic character on screen, probably because of his face. It may have helped that Chaplin bears a passing resemblance to a certain famous Austrian right-winger (no, not Schwarzenegger).\n\nIt is wrong always to use people deliberately shunning fashion as an argument, not that this is what anyone on this site does. It seems an odd concept nowadays, but there are lots of people left who are able to think for themselves. One of the reasons I dislike Spielberg\'s films may be that I am a cynic, but I don\'t think you have to be too cynical to believe that E.T., for instance, is just a tiny bit superficial, not to mention manipulative of the viewer, a point I have made several times before. I don\'t deny that Spielberg has made films which families can watch together; I just think that the best family films are often films made for adults with simple messages. An example of this is perhaps that my family loves to watch The Night of the Hunter or 12 Angry Men together. Or maybe I come from an odd family.\n\nI believe that, generally speaking, grades do reflect a person\'s intelligence. There are of course exceptions.\n\nThank you for reminding me that Spielberg didn\'t make Free Willy. I had genuinely forgotten. I suppose he was busy with the masterpiece that is Jurassic Park.\n\nIf you take a look at the IMDB message boards, you will find hundreds of people who think The Matrix Reloaded is a great movie. They are called Americans.\n\n*joke*\n\nsorry.','7afcd0e8e73e3ad855a961033b207609',0,'','e1myghop',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2372,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066187455,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','I heard that Hitler based his facial hair on Chaplin\'s. If so, it\'s almost poetic justice that Chaplin made The Great Dictator. I never said that Chaplin was a superior filmmaker to Keaton (though he is my personal preference).\n\nI\'v always said that Spielberg is one of the hardest directors to fully understand, because it\'s so easy to take his work at face value. I think you\'re being very dissmisive of ET and Jurassic Park. Spielberg often makes films which do have deeper meanings but which can also be enjoyed on a superficial level.\n\nET: Spielberg\'s primary objective was certainly not to make us cry. He has stated many times that it is his most personal film, and that it revolves around the way he felt following his parents\' devorce. ET represents a way for Elliot to releive himself of the greif left by his brocken home. The film also holds more than a passing resemblence with the Christ story - whereas Christ took the sins of the world away with him, ET takes away Elliot\'s regrets. I also think that the film\'s representation of suburbia is amazing. He paints such a nostalgic image in the film that the sci-fi element seems completely down to earth. Francois Truffaut is the only other director I can think of who can evoke a feeling of nostalgia in a viewer like that. I don\'t think it\'s fair to call the film munipulative. My idea of a munipulative film is the sort of TV historical dramas you see where the film\'s only message seems to be \"you\'re going to like this because it\'s aserious film!\". I don\'t think you can call a film munipulative just because it makes people cry. Spielberg was just trying to make a film that had emotion in it. The fact that everyone cried at the end is irrelevant. I\'m a cynic too, but I have a very high toerance level when it comes to films.\n\nJurassic Park: This is Spielberg\'s greatest film in my opinion. It\'s about a lot more than just dinosaures, belive it or not. The whole structure of the film is basicaly a metaphore for the relationship between man and nature. Spielberg paralels this by creating a constant conflict between the part of the film that is fatasy and the part of the film that is horror. In the film\'s second half, nearly every scene complements the last in it\'s tone. We have on one side the dark interiors of the controll room which are full of computers, representing man, and on the others side the scenes shot on location which represent nature because all we see is err...trees. It\'s great that the interiors are all set inside the controll room, because one of the observations the film makes is that we are only the dominant speices on Earth because of our technological advances, and when they fail us we are at the mearcy of nature so to speak. Obviously, nature wins at the end of the film, and the penultimate scene really epitomises the balance of nature (big fish eating little fish). Another aspect that has been overlooked is that the film can be seen as a warning about the moral and practical dangers of genetic enginearing (and technology in general). The film came only a few years befor the creation of Dolly the sheep. \n\nIn all fairness, this is possibly the easiest of his films to look at in a superficial way. When it first came out, it was a summer blockbuster and all the critics could think to talk about were the special effects. Every review I\'ve ever read of Jurassic Park goes along the lines of \"the special effect cost $2 million, and that dinosaur cost $5 million\". They completely ignore the deeper side of the film. \n\nI\'d really appriciate it if you don\'t get sarcastic in that way with me, because to be honest, if I hadn\'t had a good day today, I\'d be going crazy right now. Like I said befor I can\'t help leting the little things get on top of me.\n\nGrades and intellegence: Who was that really stupid kid who failed all his maths exams at school? What was his name?...err...Albert Einstein. Yeah, that was his name. I don\'t know what kind of school you went to, but at my school, getting good grades meant working hard to remember lots of facts. Don\'t get me started on the British education system. As far as I\'m concerned it should burn in Hell. I\'d better not get into that subject.','c4b8a711555c081ea18435603199d34f',0,'','rmN9aQKB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2373,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066197898,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','Grrr... Gaz,darling.. grades and intelligens? You\'ve been reading the wrong book honey,maybe you should read something from the last half of the 1900th century.That comment earns you IQ 50 (Koko\'s was over 70 so you should be sucsesfully able to peel a banana!/no\'t to underestimate Koko).Don\'t believe all the ignorant comments the raisins tell you! \n\n\n','71fadcf1ff3ba4ad11781819af6648e7',0,'','aUwxAVh8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2374,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066202032,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Steven Spielberg','Back to Spielberg. I think my views are fairly moderate: a skillful craftsman with an ear attuned to the mainstream audience. Spielberg is consciously trying to please the largest possible audience, which sometimes comes off as manipulative, or at least calculated. This applies to [i]Amistad, The Color Purple[/i], and the middle 2-hours of [i]Saving Private Ryan[/i], which I find worth-seeing but a bit stodgy. Actually only three of his films are not worthy of at least a rental:[i]Always, 1941[/i] and [i]The Lost World[/i]. He rarely makes a bad movie but some of us can\'t accept this because he gets more than his share of media coverage and gets way overrated by Henry et al. After all, does [i]Jurassic Park[/i] say anything about man vs. nature than wasn\'t said with more grace and style in [i]The Lost World[/i](1924) and [i]King Kong[/i](1933)? Also, some of us remember that the phenomenal success of Jaws inagurated the era of bigger-is-better blockbusters in a Hollywood that had financed some very unique, bold movies in the late 60s/early 70s. Cinephiles over-react by failing to appreciate, perhaps not [i]Schindler\'s List[/i], but certainly Spielberg\'s science-fiction films: the extremely effective and entertaining [i]E.T.[/i] and [i]Minority Report[/i], the almost brilliant [i]Close Encounters[/i](a tad schematic but it earns its optimism) and [i]A.I.[/i], who had me thinking about the ambiguous differences between human and nonhuman, and contains decidedly dark undertones. \nSo basically my point is: don\'t confuse Mr. Spielberg with a visionary like Kubrick and Polanski, but remain open-minded and receptive to his gifts.    \n   ','7538208777a16a49e4b8d5b085edec40',0,'','tVrBXsuc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2375,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066221430,1,0,1,1,1,1,'groom_daniel','Re: Steven Spielberg','I\'d argue that by denying Spielberg\'s talent, you\'re marginalising what talent in filmmaking is, and not looking at cinema as a whole and the important part that Spielberg plays in it. Spielberg is what Truffaut would call, \"a man of the cinema\". You can\'t deny Spielberg\'s love for the cinema. He\'s a filmmaker in the purest sense. Better yet, he\'s poured millions into preserving America\'s film heritage, which is more than most of the great cinematic nations have done. ','63b624364f6f54334d3db8a70bc01138',0,'','bdGZFeC1',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2376,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066228141,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','Interesting points. I don\'t consider Amistad or Saving Private Ryan to be munipulative. However I do find The Colour Purple to be one of his weaker films. Why does the Quincy Jones score have to be used so constantly in the first houre? At that point I think he was just trying to prove that he could do a serious drama. He\'s already don\'t a serious drama with ET, however the drama side of the films was unfortunately overshadowed by the flying bicycle side. I find Saving Private Ryan interesting. It is really quite critical of people\'s patriotisms during war. We see the generals saying \"we\'re going to bring this boy back home\", and then we see Hanks and co being killed as a result of the mission. At the end of the film, when they all decide to stay and defend the bridge, I think that Spielberg is trying to tell us that sacrificing yourself for a cause like this is very honourable. However it will get you killed. I actuall think that the American flag at the end is very good, because I think the moral of the story is that there is a time and a place for patriotism and it\'s after the war is over.\n\nI don\'t think I\'m overrating Spielberg. I never said that he was the greatest film maker of all time. However I do think that he is probably the greatest film maker within the Hollywood style of film making (along with Hitchcock, Ford and a few others). I\'m probably a bit biast towards Jurassic Park as I have been watching it since I was eight years old. I realise that it is not the first film ever to focus on man vs nature. However the way in which Spielberg brings the theme up is highly origional, and the film\'s purpose is not to bring up a new argument, but to add a new angle to an already existing one. When I talk about Jurassic Park, the main point I try to make is that it is about a lot more that dinosaures eating capitalists. No, you don\'t have to think that it is a masterpeice like I do, but understand that there is a deeper side to it than what all the hype suggests.\n\nI definately agree that Spielberg gets too much media coverage, but to be honest I don\'t really care. The Matrix Reloaded got a lot of media coverage, but can ay of us really be bothered to care about it? The amount of media coverage he gets is actually a contributing factor to anti-Spielbergism. Coming back to the point that it is fasionable to criticise something that has mass appeal, the media coverage has made him the most well known film maker of all time. He\'s become a household name, and a lot of people really object to that. The media also adds to the thinking that his films are just entertainment because whenever you see him interviewed, it\'s normaly a \"what\'s your new film gonna be, will it have lots of special effects?\" type interview.','3bd0fe6bba613c8ba67a1ef66b040d57',0,'','e7mVjiF6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2377,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066232242,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','First of all, I am a naturally sarcastic person, so if any of you is likely to respond negatively to the following comments, then please STOP READING NOW. Warning over.\n\nI went to a decent state comprehensive school - fairly representative of the British education system, which is superior to those of several other equally developed countries, though I am sorry, Henry, if your own experience of this was negative - where getting good grades usually equated to fairly high intelligence, and in most cases a strong temperament and mind. I am now studying for a BA at Cambridge. As I said, my intention is not to antagonise people. You are all entitled to your opinions. That said, if the special effects budget for Jurassic Park had instead been invested in the British education system, I am sure more than one person would have been grateful.\n\nBTW Nina*, what exactly do you mean when you say the 1900th Century? I have looked on Amazon but I cannot find any books from this far into the future.\n\nI acknowledge that Spielberg\'s intentions in making E.T. were completely honourable, but the final film seems TO ME not to correspond to this. Maybe he tried too hard. My own views are similar to those of auteur, though E.T. is a film which does not appeal to me. Close Encounters represents to me probably Spielberg\'s best work.','3a185ca57d7d6e0d9c0a888ca05ed328',0,'','Nhxb8LBK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2378,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066236161,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Steven Spielberg','When I talked about your sarcasm, I wasn\'t trying to direct an insult at you, I was just saying that I have a very short fuse (I\'m like the incredible hulk).\n\nAnyway, the running of the high school I went to was built upon a series of lies that were fed to us (the students) constantly. In the school\'s code of conduct it stated that the teachers agreed to treat the students with \"respect and sensitivity\". The reality was that most of the teachers treated the students like second class citizens. It\'s laughable that they expected us to respect them when the first thing they would say to us at the beggining of the year would normally be something along the lines of \"you will respect me because I am your superior\". They would tell us to shut the fuck up as much as they wanted, but if we said \"yes sir\" in the wrong tone of voice they would keep us behind after school. And they used to say that they \"belive in equality\". There was one teacher I had who bullied me all the way through my last year at school. He was always taking the piss out of me for being a film buff. He used to tell other students \"Henry\'s stupid because he talkes about directors all the time\". Not only did he bully me, but he encouraged the other students to join in. \n\nThe code of conduct also stressed that the school really cared about the students....Bullshit! They didn\'t care about me. However they did care about weather or not my GCSE grades would bring up the school\'s average. In my last year, I was in such a state that I had to hit my head against walls (hard) in order to let out anger (so that I wouldn\'t have to take it out on other people, and I really think that the school should have thanked me for that). Now there were several occasions when I hit myself in full view of teachers. Did they try and help me? Did they ask me if I was alright? Did they even bother to aknowlege me?...Did they fuck. They just chose to ignor the fact that I was so stressed out that I had to constantly inflict pain on myself......However, when there was a risk of school resources being dameged, they were on to me like a speeding bullet. One time, I hit my head really hard against a window, and when I went to the first aid room the first thing they asked was \"is the window ok?\". Infact I\'m not sure if they ever actually got round to asking me if I was ok. \n\nSpending 4 years at that school first drove me towards contemplating suicide, and then to the point of insanity (which is why I had to hit my head against the wall in the first place). You may think it\'s funny that I\'m talking about this the way war veterans talk about their tour of duty, but I assure you that my experiences have left me scarred for life. \n\nMaybe my experiences don\'t represent the education system as a hole, but in any case I think that putting 1000 teanagers in an enclosed environment together is just asking for trouble. Did I mention that the teachers were completely oblivious as to what was going on in the school? At one point there were drug dealers hanging around outside the school gates, and the boys were beating each other up constantly, but the main concern of the teachers was that we weren\'t wearing our ties smartly enough.','84e2cdebd10e0c596a9cb2ead6fbcc06',0,'','CqltfmsG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2379,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066246371,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Actually, this does indeed represent the education system as a hole, if not a whole. Sorry, being smart again. It sounds as if you had an awful school. My school had about 1400 pupils, but it was run by (generally) sympathetic staff. Of course some pupils went mad from time to time (in fact, since I left school, my only link back to it is looking in the paper to see who I know has been arrested), and members of staff went sadly crazy, but I do acknowledge that I have been lucky with my state-funded education.','b96685b12f1bc9ee4b96bdb949872a4c',0,'','VjoZRcJh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2380,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066246714,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Also, I\'d never think it was funny you talking about these experiences in the way you do. It\'s strange, but most of us have experienced crises during our teens. At the age of 15, I was suicidal for a long period when someone I was very close to died. You seem to have had a very rough time though. You are also evidently intelligent, judging by your list of ratings. Anyone who disliked About a Boy gets my vote.','91a2fd453c32707a3d74b8f1bcc701af',0,'','3LiUDlwr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2381,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066292081,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','Auteul, Since when have movies like Amistad or Color Purple been \"largest audience possible pleasing\", when a large part of the country (=US) is still in denial of they\'re ancestors sins, as well as being racist them selfs..? / My sympathies to Henry; After 9 years of my own personal shcool hell I finally dropped out in the middle of the last semester (did finish it though) witch just might have been the best decision I\'ve ever done. After one shcoolday at the 4th grade I too tryed to kill myself by tryeing to stab myself with the bred knife on my chest.. surprisingly this wasn\'t a very effective way and  I\'m still alive.  / Sorry gaz, didn\'t mean to be such a bitch but you \"sort of\" called me stupid first..;-) Im sure you\'re really a genious.. just like Koko.  ','42f07887763193cdc94c8c70007bf527',0,'','zAcrhZdB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2382,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066309223,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Steven Spielberg','Perhaps if I had been educated in Finland, I\'d see the logical connection between Spielberg\'s aim to reach a mainstream audience and a \"large part of Americans being racists who deny their ancestor\'s sins\". Maybe then I\'d feel comfortable looking for any opportunity to make categorical statements about nationals from other countries. Maybe one day I\'d stop blaming the educational system and ponder how I contributed to my own difficulties, and grow as a human being.     ','4e7eca357bed18e08721ad3659c6f023',0,'','7b1MST2d',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2383,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066312877,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','Maybe you should take a trip down the south with your African American girlfriend (I assume your white,heterosexual,male,at least you sound like one) and you would know what I mean. I did not make in any point any comments against the shcool system. I do not \"blame\" anyone for my broblems, but I will say that there were a few people  that made my life hell at a certain part of my life and I was \"forced\" to see every day in shcool (there were also those outside the shcool in all fairnes and other things that contributed to the problems I had at the time). At this point I also should maybe mention that some of my own ancestors have been white southern slaveholders / racist, some relatives of mine still are the 2nd one, so I don\'t think Im totally pulling this out of a hat..      ','043f50cdf7bd126879158c5cc982b30a',0,'','BHEqdm6Q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2384,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066327644,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','True, but there still is no link between sensitive subjects such as the holocaust and the desire to want to reach a large audience - if anything, Spielberg wants a large audience to make people aware of the horrors of such events. Whether he does this successfully or not is a moot point.','f322af1b77d9f17e4d07998b6670f035',0,'','p9dkRZyv',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2385,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066327692,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','BTW, do I sound like a white, heterosexual male? I\'d be interested to hear your impressions.','64fdae562fcbdcb7e8751ccba27f21ca',0,'','zmw3ovnk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2386,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066384266,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jasjesbe','Re: Steven Spielberg','I cannot hear any sound so far.','850221bacd4a2c6aaf88b9911b455698',0,'','Qxf76gyp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2387,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066387589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','Well, I don\'t like to shout. Also, I may be many miles away.','a9dc1c306f6411ba746d4ee9811a1379',0,'','wf8SJFyZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2388,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066389630,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','Ok, I did ones again stray a bit from the path. But the point that I was tryeing to make was that if you\'re tryeing \"to please THE LARGEST POSSIBLE audience\" you will not touch these subjects (racism,slavery) in the first place, because they still are delicate subjects (expecially in a certain part of the country). I do not see how these movies are largest possible audience pleasing, and so might not use the two movies connected to the frase \"Spielberg is consciosly tryeing to please the largest possible audience\". / Also, I do not see how Amistad or Color Purple are manipulative or calculative movies.Please explain Auteul.\n\n   ','6b83a6e213bc3d8fab76632ab7d4d97f',0,'','i6waA0EF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2389,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066389873,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','And no gaz. You sound like a little hairy monkey, hanging from a tree.','393bcf42e54816ab82cef5c945fe8362',0,'','aMClrjTk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2390,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066390013,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','& before you\'ll correct \"three\"','c47abf9adebdd7ada353b249a56a5ca8',0,'','0cK1Fgk2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2391,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066410954,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','How utterly charming. Though I would find it difficult to type while hanging from a tree, unless I was particularly physically agile, which I\'m not, and there was some form of computer keyboard to hand.','f30e24ec14933a54914c20abcbbab40f',0,'','zKTHQMf7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2392,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066670065,1,0,1,1,1,1,'christopherbaggins','Re: Steven Spielberg','go rent bad boy bubby it\'s greater than any Spielberg film','db04eb384e9a2b6c41bee37dd3adf023',0,'','u37wkrUo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2393,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067078851,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Steven Spielberg','Wow this thread is really popular...obviously everyone has an opinion on Spielberg. Pauline Kael called him a \"born & natural entertainer, the next Hawks.\" This may be a bit much but anyone who doesn\'t think his films are at least a bit entertaining is either a snob or an elitist snob.','5b17849608f8e7edcf46140041f591ba',0,'','YWAGjel8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2394,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067540492,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mdipres','Re: Steven Spielberg','Spielberg is populist, emotionalist, and can\'t film an ending worth anything. And he\'s a commie. \'nough said.','3268f3396dcb4097172a3a57bae4c2ab',0,'','Ea61JyMi',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2395,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067609004,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','Yeah right on ..I heard that Color Purple was called Color Blue before Spielberg got his hands on it.. and oh my god-lesnes ..like.. Shindler\'s list totally makes sense now, to use that poor innocent childrens coat on his own purpose like that! -that monster! \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n','fc7b04eec0b41d7512dba2f35cf940ff',0,'','P1FhHEmZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2396,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067629840,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Steven Spielberg','I\'d love to make a comment, but judging by past form I\'d be better keeping my trap shut.','859b879e35ee8ac4cb4276e6d681071a',0,'','J7Dfazdk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2397,536,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067640785,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nina*','Re: Steven Spielberg','BETRAYER!','44cd0d12e19f27ae51df9fdb29a8d668',0,'','anNlH8qE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2398,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049861536,1,0,1,1,1,1,'psharma88','When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','When I watch a movie I look for the guys and how hot they are...well maybe there is more to a movie then that! What do you look at?','c26a7799e83f2a590292ed2604b1450a',0,'','rscoefA2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2399,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050152562,1,0,1,1,1,1,'keehana','Re: When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','smart, witty dialogue. unexpected twists during the discourse of the movie. \'Happy ever after\' endings are fine but once in a while its great when the lead dosent get their way. makes the movie a little more interesting, I feel.','077e7e9ac176a0885a1818b9268b31fc',0,'','KySHA5wn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2400,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055719817,1,0,1,1,1,1,'michellelocke007','Re: When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','When watching films especially foreign and indie ones, I always take into account the script, dialogue, cinematography, range of emotions that the actors convey on the screen.  The plot and over-all storyline will also pique and maintain my interest throughout.  I just hope for a meaningful, thought-provoking and intriguing piece of work.  A lot of films that are coming out of Europe usually feature and star un-known actors and are directed by newcomers which makes it a refreshing change to watch.  Seeing someone\'s hard-work and efforts put into a film makes it all the more alluring and wonderous to watch.  One doesn\'t need a big-budget, big named stars or special effects to produce a great piece of work.','548d4e2394fc8077291e1ee4dd1b7cea',0,'','5S8f1C0F',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2401,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055786281,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','For comedies, I like outragous dialog. Dramas, I like films that explore relationships and I don\'t always care for happy endings. I like realistic endings....which can be happy, but often don\'t need to be.','535d4a9763a710fe36033045cc048d57',0,'','EYSqlFhC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2402,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055789648,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','I think that, more often than not, a happy ending spoils an otherwise good film.','a61abcb1adfe34e40743ac7d9b26bc54',0,'','jbacFCyp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2403,537,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056153540,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: When wacthing a movie what points do you look at?','Mise-en-scene is most important to me. Growing up Andre Bazin, James Agee & Andrew Sarris were all the film journalists who taught me how to love & appreciate cinema. So when I watch a film and analyze it or discuss it in depth, obviously camera movments, composition, lighting, depth and movement within the frame are all most to me. Storytelling is also important, depending on the type of film it is (for a Hollywood film, but when I watch a Kiarostami, Bresson, or Angeloplous I am interested for things other than quality of storytelling & forward-momentum narrative).','8bad03d3c7bbfc7467702621536f8d52',0,'','1Alt8qSa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2404,538,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1049945914,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kronicsk8tergirl2001','Long Lost Edgar Allen Poe Short Picture film','[url=http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=581585]Click Here to View [/url]','fc58ee7c3b8d0dfa3ed64972816f7d46',0,'','BCyhW61f',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2405,539,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050010253,1,0,1,1,1,1,'desy','Intimacy','The only thing I know about this flick is the reputation that preceded it.. Is it worth watching, controversy aside? ','527d6e515172d9cfb0964e02b1b05904',0,'','YhAT5KyR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2406,539,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050452141,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HASSELBAINK007','Re: Intimacy','No ','303cbe9e96443dd8ca7cb1d5b5e25352',0,'','wKtydYRh',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2407,539,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051994811,1,0,1,1,1,1,'young707','Re: Intimacy','I bought this DVD movie \"Intimates\" last week. I like it  very much. Very well made and very interesting story. I think its one of the best from China. I can sell this DVD disc to you at reasonable price.','18c49cdf80458bd238f79daeb4c77933',0,'','qQTLxEk7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2408,539,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052036165,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Intimacy','I recommend Patrice Chereau\'s english language feel-bad for the outstanding performances by Kerry Fox and Timothy Spall alone. I prefer Chereau\'s [i]Those who Love me Can Take the Train[/i] by a hair.','cf083903a1b69caa103fd7c3718cb776',0,'','VCrsmNbg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2409,539,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052485798,1,0,1,1,1,1,'zzzooom','Re: Intimacy','I watched Intimacy on TV recently (knowing that I might only enjoy one small part of it).  I was drawn in to the story, but it\'s a fairly non-uplifting tale all-told.  Worth a watch/rent maybe, but not a keeper.','09b8a90897db254423f5bf1e318327ae',0,'','BPQC4M6s',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2410,540,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050126407,1,0,1,1,1,1,'keehana','What makes a film a foreign film?','Upon discussion, i have realised that the definition of a foreign film varies between pple (language, content, location). what are the determinants which actually makes a film a foreign film. Would it be the location it was shot, the director, the picture house resp. for the movie?\n\nSome say as long as it not an American movie, it would then be classified as a foreign film. What if the director of the film if American movie is not an American or perhaps the book at which the movie is adapted from not written by an american writer. Would under those circumstances be fair to say that the movie/ film is an American production?\n\n','eeff7028f067a4628c3b2b5922192515',0,'','6lX98Zqx',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2411,540,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050158626,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: What makes a film a foreign film?','I think of films made outside America and Britan, by foreign directors as foreign films. I don\'t think it really matters what language the film is in.','ff81301b1e6d74ef1cab8df778c475ce',0,'','iZJX4BPM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2412,540,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051995011,1,0,1,1,1,1,'young707','Re: What makes a film a foreign film?','how about the original sound track language? and subtitles? however, DVD disc with multiple soundtracks and subtitles, makes it more fuzzy.','0e7e9293d877b7f0687a657be2e1cc50',0,'','r9NgBM8v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2413,540,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052121732,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tumadretumadre','Re: What makes a film a foreign film?','the film/TV series was produced outside of the U.S., or is in a language other than English. \nthe film/TV series has been distributed (in theaters, on video, or on TV) in at least one country. \nthe film is NOT a big-budget Hollywood release. For example, despite its connection to New Zealand, do not add \'Lord of the Rings\'. \n','332f0636c97264a6a909237975320d90',0,'','5CKQ7NuD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2414,541,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050359660,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Kiarostami is overrated!','Anyone else think that Abbas Kiarostami is the most overrated director of all time. His films are boring and long-winded (and yes I like Tarkovsky, Bela Tarr, etc.) so slow movies are fine with me. But his films have no point besides being well executed exercises in form. His new film \"Ten\" will no doubt be called a masterpiece and brilliant though it is neither of these. Kiarostami makes films for film critics and film theoriticians. Not regular people who want to see a good film.','e0af3ce9380e81d6119335085cd845ae',0,'','72YrDnCz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2415,541,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050513243,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bjornam','Re: Kiarostami is overrated!','I love his films, and they make great sense to me, even if I am not Iranian. The ending of Taste of Cherry is just brilliant. And come on, not moved by Close-Up in any way? ','9257482e1989172e0f915442e234cebf',0,'','CaHpVc4j',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2416,541,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050547102,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Kiarostami is overrated!','kiarostami,makes spare films with great depth of meaning a truly great director with that wonderful humanist take on things. it\'s all there,if you look!','b234c8b24023e3d243714e0e0d784f23',0,'','7qB8ls3f',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2417,541,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051979321,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Kiarostami is overrated!','Abbas Kiarostami engages in innovation by omission. He forces the viewer to participate in the completion of the film in several ways. In [i]The Taste of Cherry[/i]we don\'t know why the protagonist wants to attempt suicide or if he succeeds. Then Kiarostami adds an epilogue that forces one to reconsider the whole film yet again. His is a participatory cinema. He is also quite interested in gray areas where fiction and documentary cinema meet uneasily. For instance, [i]Through the Olive Trees[/i] increasingly becomes a film about two of the actors hired to appear in the film and their class differences. \nMr. Kiarostami invites controversy with his experimental, open-ended filmmaking and somewhat outrageous statements such as: \"I don\'t like to arouse the viewer. I don\'t like when filmmakers take the viewer hostage. I prefer films that put the audience to sleep in the theatre. It\'s kind of a film to allow you a nice nap\" and \"Censorship doesn\'t affect my work\". His work generates lively discussion.   ','abb6d33ac08fd29405675bda9320735a',0,'','oSmk9w51',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2418,541,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052721951,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Kiarostami is overrated!','Well I will say this. There is always a true humanistic feeling underneath all the \"action\" in the films. He is also an Iranian director making films aout subjects that are completely taboo in his home country. And nobody shoots film in a car like he does. But there are Iranian directors such as Tahmineh Milani & Jafar Panahi are way more interesting who make films that are just as poignant and artistic.','5948d8294aa68f0643e7e662e781f2f9',0,'','1uGtlrFJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2419,542,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050430138,1,0,1,1,1,1,'keehana','Women roles in films','The portrayal of women in films have moved away from the conventional stereotype; updated to characteristics which women of the 21st century possess. (independent, smart, feminist? etc.)\n\nWhich movie do you think started it all and what is your opinion on the matter?\n\n','4951bb5c7d701e46ae8d6c1b50a34010',0,'','JuRr4tpD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2420,542,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050547674,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Women roles in films','i think the great louise brooks did all that in \"pandora\'s box\" (g.w.pabst) in 1929,check her out, a true legend.','0e8728c8048eb0215c949bf0c89de8f9',0,'','qEJw7FBe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2421,542,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050699223,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Women roles in films','A good call, Gratefultiger- she\'s fantastic; one of the handful of greatest performances- but look what happened to her (the Lulu character that is, not Louise). And look at the outcome of that other legendary silent female performance, Falconetti in The Passion of Joan of Arc.\n\nDreyer\'s earlier Master of the House is an enjoyable and amusing feminist drama, (1925). He wasn\'t all Scandinavian angst, as some think. And his last film Gertrud (1964)- which i failed to properly appreciate first time round- returns to female emancipation; certainly a strong, independent woman.\n\nOf course, Mizoguchi was the world\'s greatest director of women, with his main theme the suffering of women in  unjust society (past and present), but many of his heroines were self-sacrificing, abused and/or paragons of virtue. Occasionally, they break out, are permitted a victory.','208cdc585808c86a2dd17611e6b9fceb',0,'','sauEQ0KL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2422,542,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050979682,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Women roles in films','good on you john u know your films! dreyer,mizoguchi why thats \"the silk department\" & yes louise brooks & the incomparable falconetti are legends!\n','125ff2fd0561aa1e5d533fd3cd5ec263',0,'','cd08KM4t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2423,543,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1050880623,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Labellequevoila','French movies','John-5 & oomingakus (Matthew) please send me an e-mail. I want to talk with you. Thank you','60443b9cf30f10e406438616d5880840',0,'','S9um8Cev',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2424,544,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051147153,1,0,1,1,1,1,'rentfn','i am looking for a movie please help','i believe this is a french movie. the title is Simple Mortal. that must be the english title. it is about this guy who starts hearing voices from his car radio. they say that he must complete three tasks or the world will end. if anyone knows this movie please send me info about it. maybe if that it is title or not. thanks alot','1e8be220a3319e7e7a9767e4e43e0466',0,'','r2mHwS8J',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2425,544,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051234081,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jdcopp','Re: i am looking for a movie please help','Its title is \"Simple Mortel\" with an \"E\".','b18fdb94cf11ccbd413c01f6d1e71021',0,'','fMilhUy5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2426,545,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051156119,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manicmo','Aki Kaurismaki','I just saw Man Without a Past, a singular masterpiece. I would love to know more about him, his work, does he do the writing? What other films has he made? ','b4164b17accbd6403ca594f74157cc21',0,'','NMhfpYzP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2427,545,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051499146,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Aki Kaurismaki','drifting clouds is his masterpiece his films are \"as dry as a dead dingoe\'s donger\" which is why i love them,check out the kaurismaki bros website www.scfi/-solaris/kauris\nif you love deadpan humour as much as i do you will always enjoy aki\'s stuff...cheers\n','d2dcde93f6d44fbd3c54f7d60649c7eb',0,'','k5YwiN0G',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2428,545,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051521679,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Aki Kaurismaki','Kaurismaki\'s new one opens in my town next week. I will be there for the 1st showing. His films are not for everyone I think, but those who appreciate and love deadpan humor do. And also an affinity for 1960\'s Finnish pop songs...','5ba6411a59226a1d100b30c00cee0c78',0,'','wrXG2vqm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2429,545,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051734583,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manicmo','Re: Aki Kaurismaki','Could you check that web address, I am not getting anywhere with it.  I will be looking for drifting clouds.','2b5274fe24c5742458624f6e8753955e',0,'','seWwhkBT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2430,546,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051236589,1,0,1,1,1,1,'benjamin','curzon soho - london cinemas.....','To all those in england .. specifically london.\nI was wondering if you have any suggestions of fine cinemas to visit or opinions of the curzon soho (my usual stomping grounds in london)?\nive always enjoyed the curzons programming and the cinema itself .. esp the double bills on sunday. bella.\n\nsaw my first thai and inuit films there.. sigh ... goo times..\n\nben','8fc533a9d520a707fdd173c2d1351c8e',0,'','6x4m9XHL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2431,547,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051261621,1,0,1,1,1,1,'xanimax','Name this film!','Im trying to find the name of the film I saw on TV a year ago.  I cant remember a lot of details, but,  If you ahve seen it, it should ring a bell.  THe movie centers around this guy, I think he is a banker or investor of some sort, hes poor at the start anwyays.  He\'s having an affair with this woman and draws on her chest.. and his weird wife wont let him touch her breasts.  Anyways, eventually, he gets his mistress and his wife in a semi 3 way (they are more interested in each other).  He gets rich, he drives crazy, his wife dies when they get in an accident, and, he even tries to replace her with some other woman.  Anyone seen this movie and know the name?','495916da81d58beffc53e74219398a47',0,'','myN2K7tF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2432,547,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051591650,1,0,1,1,1,1,'xanimax','Re: Name this film!','anyone :(','ef4a0bbdd403efe71d43668e8b60f455',0,'','stRyxrA3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2433,548,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051370727,1,0,1,1,1,1,'jessiemark1','About Leslie Cheung','Does anyone know Leslie Cheung?I think he is really a great actor.I like\" Days of being Wild\",\"Ashes of Time\"\"Farewell,My Concubine\"............AAAND i\'M really SORRY about his suicide.','f58e1fb9cd15bd7fd2793a3bf665571d',0,'','YG31r5jQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2434,548,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051403460,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','Re: About Leslie Cheung',' I don\'t know much about Leslie Cheung, and I hope that I don\'t offend anyone with my question, but here it is... Does the fact that he committed suicide on April 1st (April Fool\'s Day) have any significance? Like I said, I don\'t know anything about his personal life or beliefs, the date of death just struck me as odd. Also, the method of suicide seems rather uncommon for artists. Does that carry any significance? A morbid topic, but a potentially interesting one, if there\'s anything \"between-the-lines\" to be read.','6ca398428df002df3686d93e59ddd36d',0,'','1AnzHJ3l',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2435,548,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051429838,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Lex Luthor','Re: About Leslie Cheung','Leslie Cheung happens to be among the Asian actors I admire the most. Among his films that i saw were Happy Together, Farewell My Concubine, Temptress Moon, Inner Senses. It so weird that in his last film Inner Senses, he was about to jump off the building but was saved by love, and in real life he actually jumped. ','cddff2aef0a10895b377c50c0da2f89a',0,'','BTCWtdZl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2436,548,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051491388,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kmcalma','Re: About Leslie Cheung','It aint easy bein\' gay in China...','cc22a36278d3eb9b2ef2d301850ac8af',0,'','miybAxaL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2437,548,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057797893,1,0,1,1,1,1,'asia_bebe','Re: About Leslie Cheung','i do feel sorry for leslie he is a GREAT Actor!!!!!! why did he had to do that GEZZZ! =(\nms.mindy','df1d74c52da09cd8367d9944956bb977',0,'','BdGMqXZL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2438,549,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051548590,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Le Fils','I\'ve just seen Le Fils by Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, and was impressed. Not a great film maybe, but a very good one.\n\nThe small scale of the film, leading to claustrophobia and suspense, reminded me somewhat of Chabrol - the film is worthy of the master (not to mention quite similar in plot terms to Que la Bête Meure). An excellent, well-acted psychological study of the after-effects of murder on an individual.\n\nI\'d be interested in the reactions of anyone else who\'s seen it.','9f1c1db9293779d3161a563f586748bc',0,'','yJEMrcGm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2439,549,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051605631,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Le Fils','I disagree just a bit. I thought this film was a real masterpiece. I saw it twice in a row just to make sure I wasn\'t crazy and couldn\'t tell how I felt about it immediately. I haven\'t reacted that strongly to a film in a long time (the last was Godard\'s latest pic). Definitely a must-see.','88f99ed06c7178f98a3c9da5d9310050',0,'','pPNtLemk',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2440,549,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051729546,1,0,1,1,1,1,'manicmo','Re: Le Fils','What I liked in this film aside from the story was the camera always just a few inches too close, usually following the backs up until the climax','8ede0ebda5225e9c2312addc7fcf4706',0,'','RZfpqCxX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2441,549,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051736414,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Le Fils','The more I think about it, the more I think it might be a masterpiece after all. Perhaps a return visit is in order.','0c6e35e6137aa30e3a63061b96ae12be',0,'','7U3DwHJ5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2442,549,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053775366,1,0,1,1,1,1,'shaisse','Re: Le Fils','great film, not for everybody... i even liked it more than rosetta... the story is so real, great subjective shots and dialogues... but most of all superb acting by olivier gourmet!\n\nthanks, dardenne\'s brothers!','73eecbbf47c35aa6e34407c2935248a9',0,'','8HEuLftc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2443,550,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051607309,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','LINO BROCKA  the greatest FILIPINO filmmaker','he\' s been always around the international film festivals presenting his film... his GREATEST films are INSIANG, JAGUAR, BAYAN KO, BONA, FIGHT FOR US and MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG','3e1b4fe2e51cb71a04557991343f5fd4',0,'','XvmQ3A07',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2444,550,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052777000,1,0,1,1,1,1,'fugl_foeniks','Re: LINO BROCKA  the greatest FILIPINO filmmaker','I have heard that he\'s a great director. Do you know anywhere I can buy \"Manila - in the claws of brightness\" (if I remember the title right)?','e704eae9792ce32eb92144419085ce3b',0,'','HwiASaf6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2445,550,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053864128,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','Re: LINO BROCKA  the greatest FILIPINO filmmaker','as far as i know, the original copy was brought in the british film institute for restoration. im not sure if there is an available copy in norway. maybe the best thing you can do is to go to the philippines. :) befriend someone from my country. :) and ask if he could send you a copy. the movie is absolutely good. ','500ca65dec4f9cb7f311e04c707fcafc',0,'','iSMmoCYw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2446,550,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054425581,1,0,1,1,1,1,'fugl_foeniks','Re: LINO BROCKA  the greatest FILIPINO filmmaker','If there is a version of it in England, with English subtitles, I could buy it from there, but I haven\'t found it anywhere yet. ','94ef4ed31c7ca0858876c6419937ffdf',0,'','vfhVxnqy',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2447,550,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056096413,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','Re: LINO BROCKA  the greatest FILIPINO filmmaker','umm its really difficult to look for his films, its very rare that you them as well, if there is such a filipino retrospective in your country you come and watch it ok? anyhow you send me an email at bettlejuice@atenista.net or lets talk over yahoo messanger.. my ad is toungeinamole  ayt? we can talk about lino brocka there.','ea712e6038e558f0f84c1365bc6c67b0',0,'','KZxwX1pL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2448,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051731391,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Films to see second time...!','i want to learn those film which need to bee seen 2 or multiple times to figure out its excellency. i mean when u see first see it u could not understand but at the second time u get what they call it masterpiece...\n','fef288bfa2d875452293996e6694f667',0,'','aQfE9FHm',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2449,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051736588,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Films to see second time...!','I think Tarkovsky\'s films reveal new things with each viewing. Bergman\'s likewise. Of course there are many films which bear repeated viewing, but the films of these two directors strike me as the most likely to keep on giving new insights.','113814a47d0b233b12e559dafb8e7dbd',0,'','4oscvNS6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2450,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051758095,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Films to see second time...!','i always make a point of seeing most (but not all) films at least twice as mood comes into the appraisal at times.as for my favourites i can watch them again & again and i do.\nthe great directors demand multiple viewings tarkovsky a definite case in point as he requires a lot from the viewerlet alone himself.\nwhich is how i like it.\n','04cee8573cba15a02508208394eff5cf',0,'','UAqpijys',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2451,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064093395,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Films to see second time...!','I watch all films I love again and again and again.\n\nHowever as for films to watch a 2nd time to get more details or to figure it out at all – [b]Donnie Darko[/b].  A superb film.  ','074a36213677fe3a4a0f66238eca1e7e',0,'','7s9jwJi2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2452,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064130304,1,0,1,1,1,1,'smurfrevolt','Re: Films to see second time...!','I would see something like Requiem for a Dream more than two times, first for the disturbing story, then the cinematography and the techniques...there\'s always something new that I see in this film every time I watch it.  \n\nI watch David Lynch\'s movies twice, esp. that new one, Mulholland Drive.  Until now, I\'m not sure, if it\'s a masterpiece, or Lynch is fucking with my mind or both...\n\nI always watch Wong Kar-wai\'s films twice, more than twice.  Like Requiem, there\'s a wealth of film school tips and techniques, in every shot/sequence, the composition, angles, the editing--everything.  Plus, his characters are so complex, you need more than one viewing to figure them out.  ','c87b0df85ad1295ca586fbdb4b9bea7e',0,'','mGSWRlA8',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2453,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066747031,1,0,1,1,1,1,'christopherbaggins','Re: Films to see second time...!','I watch almost every director driven project twice regardless of country of origin. If the film is actor driven or mainstream hollywood it usually doesn\'t have the depth to watch over for details you missed. However, any good director is worth studying both the technical aspects and the moods he or she develops during the movie. My favorites are Lynch, Waters, Kurosawa, Wes Anderson, PT Anderson, Kubrick, Cassavetes, Almaldovar, Herzog just to name a few.','09c92a41f0e3804ea3481b80e67d5fc7',0,'','qW3lLTf5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2454,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066752340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Films to see second time...!','Films that feature \"fractured\" chronology, with frequent flasbacks and flashforwards, elliptical plots, etc. often benefit from a second viewing. This applies to the above-mentioned [i]Mulholland Drive[/i] and some Kar Wai. Also, films with meanings and themes that are open to interpretation (like Tark\'s, maybe Antonioni). I also find that anglophone audiences fail to appreciate fully the films directed by Jean Renoir, in which the precise timing and nuance of dialogue and gesture are lost to the subtitle-reader. This is true even when the translations are accurate, which is not always the case. Once you are familiar with the text and basic narrative, watch again to enjoy the rich characterisations and impeccable ensemble acting.   ','a5b0d0dbe92bf17a159456c452fbfcec',0,'','uSJKTCZB',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2455,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1066897962,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Films to see second time...!','People who can\'t appreciate the genius of Jean Renoir are really missing out,his films are timeless.the unsentimental\nhumanity,technique,camerawork,mis en scene,characterisation\nnarrative.He just made it all look so easy,i don\'t pay too much attention to so called film buffs who don\'t rate him.\nto me it is all so obvious,his influence is still shining out there!\n ','35bc4408a72c197a97e1ad5ee3bab73a',0,'','VlkN2zYK',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2456,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067079098,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Films to see second time...!','Good call gratefultiger. Renoir has the most diverse and beautiful mix of films of any director I can think of. Never made a bad film IMO. Some worked and some did not but they are all interesting and beautiful. If Orson Welles thought he was the best director, that\'s good enough for me!','49ef6d51e88ddc6e1f28628bdfb1951b',0,'','BbMkAdwu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2457,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067225874,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Films to see second time...!','Welles was right on the money !','b45161fb7ea365ccf91491c89b1afc21',0,'','ydX4ES8i',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2458,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067540340,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mdipres','Re: Films to see second time...!','Recursive movies like 8 1/2 and Adaptation are the most obvious examples. ','c8b48f84b1acf431a1f4f3144cb28625',0,'','E0i34xQR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2459,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067897554,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pete231176','Re: Films to see second time...!','I reckon Los Amantes del Circulo Polar by Julio Medem is a two or more seer. I\'m a teacher, and show it to my A level sets, and the more I\'ve seen it, the better it gets. It all fits together when you watch it again. Pedro','34c686ee011af539c88528110ac0278d',0,'','feVxHd9c',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2460,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1067903114,1,0,1,1,1,1,'stof_','Re: Films to see second time...!','some films you have to watch twice, usually because the ending changes the perspective so much that you have to see the film over again to understand it from that new perspective. A great film for that would be the Cabinet of Dr. Caligary\nOther films are so rich with so many layers that you must watch them multiple times to fully understand and appreciate them. Well Tartovsky\'s films are definately like this, I recomend Egoyan\'s Exotica. The film becomes more beautiful with every viewing. I think I\'ve watched it seven times so far, and I will be watching it again soon.','17b9a6b4a073add3e879851c75861c4b',0,'','cQJrhmgL',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2461,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068342085,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wpqx1','Re: Films to see second time...!','There are numerous films that went way over my head the first time, but I thought were brilliant on another viewing.  Bridge on the River Kwai was one, and also La Dolce Vita and Children of Paradise.  Unfortunately there is the film that you may see twice that still is overrated.  Now call me crazy but maybe I need three viewings to appreciate Vertigo, which I think is the second lowest Hitchcock film (excuse me but The Lady Vanishes is the lowest).  Rules of the Game remained overrated on a second viewing.  Once it is released on DVD next January I will probably try it for the third time.  It is close to a masterpiece, but I still prefer Grand Illusion and Boudu Saved From Drowning.','66eafa56aac84212037669251f2fd79d',0,'','KDak17N4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2462,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068365747,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Films to see second time...!','Both [i]Vertigo[/i] and [i]The Rules of the Game[/i] impressed me the first time, but each subsequent viewing has enriched my appreciation and understanding of them. The nuanced verbosity of Rules makes it a bit of a challenge for those of us who need to read the subtitles. Appreciation of the performances invariably suffers. I\'m buying this one, not renting it.\n\nCronenberg\'s SPIDER is the film I saw this year that benefits the most from a second viewing. It now joins my other favorite films of the year: [i]Russian Ark, Le Fils, Magdalene Sisters, Hero[/i], and [i]Mondays in the Sun[/i]. ','4a4c7aac2166021661c272ddc99e917e',0,'','GiglsZyr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2463,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068538055,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Films to see second time...!',' I must say most of my films i view again & again the above message is right on some film just draw u in (and lovin\' it)','e8df5a5357471221c6187b93b78b002b',0,'','Pye7AzTa',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2464,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1068577147,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ustink','Re: Films to see second time...!','I know this isn\'t the coolest reply but what the heck:  I really love\n\"To Sir with Love\".  Sydney Poitier is fantastic.','e74374cf03cdb7576304a67c0d660ca5',0,'','7n8DghEW',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2465,551,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1071003714,1,0,1,1,1,1,'saratw2','Re: Films to see second time...!','I watched the Criterian DVD of Kurosawa\'s \"Ran\" over and over. There are two commentaries and both are wonderful. But the film itself is superb, full of depth, and beautiful.','807f547b5bd296b5b2c32feea086c88c',0,'','dyMCzc3n',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2466,552,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051854215,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','what do you think of a filipino film?','i just want to know a point of view of someone not from my country','c89683d9ab3a9e6cae04cb4a3f632406',0,'','MCwV2eQr',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2467,553,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1051919974,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Lilja 4-Ever','I\'d love to know your reactions to this film. I thought it was a masterpiece, one of the best new films I\'d seen for a very long time. The two lead child actors were also very special. Depressing maybe, moving undoubtedly. A great film and a very important one.','aeff2d74d4ea7c008ea337cfad406dd5',0,'','nk80ZgCR',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2468,553,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052445580,1,0,1,1,1,1,'shoehorn','Re: Lilja 4-Ever','I did not really care for the film, maybe because I don\'t care for Von Trier or his style. Anyway, here is a link to my review:\n\n[url]http://www.cinescene.com/howard/hardrain.html#lilya[/url\n','f7fb504bd0d4312caf61d9a3d592e116',0,'','txNgL41b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2469,553,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052721255,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Lilja 4-Ever','Your wrote a very good review, but I really loved this film. I do not think this is Moodyson\'s best film, but I enjoyed it and can\'t wait to see his next project.','db7ceea47039992dfef506e4df969621',0,'','sbK1SfNw',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2470,553,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064092039,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Lilja 4-Ever','I haven’t seen Lilja 4-ever.  I really wanted to but it was only out here for 1 week.  Don’t know if you knew already but based on a true story.\n\nThe same director also did [i]”Tillsammans” & \"Fucking Åmål\"[/i] (“Together” & “Show me love\") which is also a brilliant films.  They are much more uplifting than “Lilja 4-ever”.','6e405b84c2c173ffce9566acf61d57e9',0,'','N2rDa37h',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2471,554,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052098022,1,0,1,1,1,1,'fineitsky','Foreign Influence','Can someone please tell me some direct inspiration American filmmakers have gained from foreign films?  (Please specify which films, and please don\'t limit yourself!)\n\nThis would be a great help! And, this is also my first post.','d9fec7aab978007a3a89dcd035b0c3f4',0,'','kR83wVcn',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2472,554,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052107201,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tumadretumadre','Re: Foreign Influence','Felini\'s work influenced many comedy directors... note the heavy \"where\'s waldo\" crowd scenes full of fun stuff happening in some new american flicks.\n\nCan we say hong kong cinema and wire fu? There would be no matrix with \"the killer\" and \"once upon a time in china\".\n\nFrances long camera shots and cool light textures that jump out of \"Delicatesen\" and \"Le cite des enfants perdus\" and into movies like Aliens 4.\n\nRobert Rodrigue\'s anime with cojones directing style. ','4c5b25c916fea48f7093e0f53ce60281',0,'','pskWRJ8t',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2473,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052106993,1,0,1,1,1,1,'tumadretumadre','Ringu v.s. The ring','Ringu:\nPro\'s:\n1) Slow build ups and lots of suspense.\n2) Lovely dark atmospheres.\n3) Its all so mysterious and vague that it sucks you in inmedatly.\n4) Sadako is the scariest bitch Ive ever seen.\n\nDefects:\n1) It relies too much on Gloom o vision... 50% of the time I was raising the brightness level.\n2) You kinda realize the suspense is going nowhere.\n3) The ring curse does nothing to you untill you die, exept for the photo altering. \n\n\nThe ring (american remake)\nPro\'s:\n1) The ring video is much more frightening and intense.\n2) The curse is more realistic and dangerous, with nose bleeds, halucinations, nightmares, obsessive compulsive behavior patterns and the inability to play with horsies.\n3) The horse angle, institution angle and paternal abuse angle rocked pretty hard.\n4) \"Every one will suffer\" + \"You wherent suposed to help her\"\n\nCons:\n\n1) Did Samara make her video in conjunction with Trent Reznor? The hell?\n2) Samara is scary, but not as scary as Sadistic Sadako.\n3) Its an american Remake! Its not loyal! We are all suposed to hate american remakes of stuff! (although Ringu is technically a remake of the T.V. miniseries and a poor adaption of the novel).\n\nAll in all I think The ring wins this one... both movies where made with lots of love, but The ring (american) even without the special effects would of freaked me out more due to the scenes with her scribbling circles and hair on pictures.','2b65f5224bc63e324c198f617994a670',0,'','PdA6lKnY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2474,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053456915,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','Is Ringu intelligent?\n\nThe Ring was a very well made film, beautiful and scary, but the script was idiotic.  It was such a waste of very good talent.','71635bd2f4e011ab705fef07aef8fa9d',0,'','dY1qlyQ0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2475,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053463326,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','This was one of the very rare cases in which the American remake WAY surpassed the original. First of all, Naomi Watts is hot. Second, Naomi Watts is hot. Third, the American remake has a much better screenplay and seems (to me) much scarier. ','629f3e252f7e58e438da1586c22ec2c6',0,'','hcvCf5wg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2476,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053543260,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bootsie32000','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','The N. American version used the horror genre established by Kubrick in The Shining, realist domestic horror, and celebrated all Kubrick tried to expose, infanticide, child abuse etc.\n\nAs dumb as dumb gets.\n\nAs to an actor being hot, well, I think other criteria might come first.  As horror, it could have been a classic,but only films with intellectual/artistic value last.\n\nInterestingly enough, really low budget, ugly films tend to be much more intelligent.  I still say, a huge waste of talent.  I get the feeling the original was going to be good and tehn a committee chopped it up.','004a8799852f820c3a94931b70d466ae',0,'','y800XtLJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2477,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057797624,1,0,1,1,1,1,'asia_bebe','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','i Like THE RING better because it\'s scares me more ringu it was aite it\'s wasen\'t all that scarey but, the american version is way scarey!\nms.mindy','8bd97a8c8757b0f18e1e296e22217314',0,'','UB6ML2Yu',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2478,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058500203,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','Wanna see a really good Japanese horror movie before the American remake ruins its legacy? see the Kang Brothers\' \"The Eye\", which Tom Cruise (and his production company) are currently in the process of finding a screenwriter to make (a.k.a. ruin) a Hollywood remake.','37a0aad8eb7171fb44578bf2028bb789',0,'','Kkt7Vg9v',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2479,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1058666834,1,0,1,1,1,1,'ksparent','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','Why does the Korean remake get lost in these discussions? It\'s a good movie but it seems like Americans aren\'t even aware of it.','b5b1938325b477589e32c6b933ae55aa',0,'','uxR1k5iV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2480,555,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1064091111,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Ria','Re: Ringu v.s. The ring','I find it very hard to judge a remake when I’ve seen the original.  The original often fill in bits of story, which a remake misses.  The remake often has more money and therefore has better effects.\n\nWhat I can say it that by the time I saw “Ringu” it had been hyped up so much that it was about as scary as an angry kitten.\n\nBy the time “The Ring” came out I knew what to expect and I felt they did a better job.\n\nI must add that I saw “Dark Water” before anyone could tell me about it and I really liked it.  Perhaps I would have felt the same about Ringu if I’d seen it earlier.\n\nIf you want to see a creepy horror, watch “The Eye”.  I agree that please watch it before Tom ruins it.','175384f888531f08a7a959c0a58a3088',0,'','ExCD5rSM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2481,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052836095,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','Some of the films that won Oscar for foreign-language film are nearly unknown to wide audience. Especially in the 80\'s, strange things happened: Oscar for political movie from Argentina, mysterious films from Switzerland and the Netherlands... And of course the prize for Benigni\'s \"masterpiece\" seems to be very controversial. On the other hand, great directors like Tarkowski, Antonioni, Angelopoulos, Godard, Bresson had never been nominated (if this is because of being too \"artistic\", why had Bergman and Fellini won repeatedly ?). Which movie - in your opinion - won the Oscar unjustifiably and why?','1cc53d062e5038ac2214e672e518276f',0,'','BHgqJkeG',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2482,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052841130,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','The films nominated are often the most accessible crowd-pleasers as you know. I think the 1991 winner \"Mediterraneo\" did not deserve to beat the nominated \"Raise the Red Lantern\" and \"The Ox\" and others not nominated. ','e7c0995f43e351af0f021211e24ab21f',0,'','T8KGPmk3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2483,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052984703,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','Frequently the Oscars give the awards to the most popular of the foreign films (Life is Beautiful, Crouching Tiger, Cinema Paradiso, etc), though it\'s not always the case (look at last year\'s award to No Man\'s Land over Amelie).  However, a few films that I would have to greatly disagree with would efinitely be Mediterraneo and Belle Epoque.','479856390941bd6b6f1ac5726350733e',0,'','kMj605lN',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2484,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057595300,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','Don\'t forget that the Academy doesn\'t choose the films that each country will submit.  If Antonioni has never been nominated, part of the reason would be that Italy probably never submitted any of his films for consideration.  If spain had submitted Talk To Her this year, they would have won easily over Nowhere In Africa, but instead they thought Americans wouldn\'t go for a movie that \"sympathized\" with a rapist and so chose something else that didn\'t even get nominated.','c4e2d5e02897961df0517538fc9b4388',0,'','8wFXxkqC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2485,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057631624,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','Even so, Nowhere in Africa was up against The Man Without a Past and shouldn\'t have won. The Academy likes to award films which it considers \"worthy\", rather than the best piece of cinema. This is why films like A Beautiful Mind win the Best Picture Oscar.','c1dfbe4aa070eb063b45b31fd2b5b82c',0,'','EnQGR83b',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2486,556,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057650626,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Most controversial foreign-language-film Oscar winner','I\'m curious as to how paredes learned about the reasons behind TALK TO HER not being the nominee from Spain. ','fb7ceec491369caff2b33ebf19831add',0,'','3PnBShMg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2487,557,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052836152,1,0,1,1,1,1,'szindbad','Can excrements be a piece of art ?','I\'m worried about future of European cinema. Recently we\'ve had \"pleasure\" to see a string of extremely brutal and creepy films like \"Irréversible\", \"Baise-moi\", \"Hundstage\", directed by sick people who dare to name themselves \"artists\". Gaspar Noé with his sick imagination is rather a candidate to mental hospital than art-house cinema. The most miserable is enthusiastic reaction from some critics who describe these movies as \"new sensibility in cinema\". In my opinion, watching \"Irréversible\" is nothing else but a kind of coprofagy. I say NO!! to filmmakers whose only rule is \"vomit to be noticed\". What\'s your opinion about that?','d8e33547e8ac268ee44d1698e61f938e',0,'','zDdiEuhP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2488,557,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052840383,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: Can excrements be a piece of art ?','I found IRREVERSIBLE quite moving, with a strong message about the absurdity of revenge. The woman\'s former and current boyfriend take revenge on the wrong man, while the perpetrator remains free to victimize others. The revelation, towards the end, that there was an additional, most innocent of victims, was powerful and reminded me that when violence is perpetrated there are often innocent, unintended victims. This Argentinian expatriate(Noe) conveys the horror and repercussions of violence. He refuses to use it for thrills and escapism. I commend your consideration of moral issues few dare to discuss, but you are picking on the wrong film. Violence should be revolting. What may be morally suspect is for a film to make you feel comfortable with the violence on screen, to treat it lightly.  ','0499cc8af9415c54d0f3d64d71c5b651',0,'','8USJdAR7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2489,557,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052984810,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bmxsuperhero','Re: Can excrements be a piece of art ?','New French cinema is not the first to show graphic displays of excriment to gain attention.  If anyone remembers Pasolini\'s \"The Canterbury Tales,\" the final scene of the film shows the devil deficating quite graphically.  Sometimes directors have to disguise their films as \'shocking\' to get their message heard.','788b374f4c5add9964c7f67d0a18cf6e',0,'','UaynkXv5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2490,558,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052932422,1,0,1,1,1,1,'brobis','MOVIE NAME NEEDED','I SAW A MOVIE AT THE ITALIAN FILM FESTIVAL BACK IN 2000.  THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT A YOUNG BOY WHO\'S FATHER HAS TAUGHT HIM TO SPEAK A LANGUAGE TOTALLY FOREIGN TO OTHERS IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD (I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DICTIONARY WORDS SPELLED BACKWARDS).  THE FATHER DIES IN THE HOME, AND THE BOY (ABOUT 10YR) VENTURES OUT ON HIS OWN FOR THE FIRST TIME.  WHEN HE TRIES TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS, THEY THINK THE BOY IS MENTALLY HANDICAP AND HE IS SENT TO A HOSPITAL WHERE HE BEFRIENDS A NURSE WHO TRIES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LANGUAGE HE IS USING.  THIS IS AN ITALIAN FILM (NOT JODIE FOSTER\'S \"NELL\")  ANY HELP IN THE NAME OF THIS MOVE WOULD BE APPRECIATED','7ebbeb89516912e6557b1a564e35d794',0,'','f9UTGNHE',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2491,559,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1052987443,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Cashiers du Cinema in english?','Does anyone know whether you can read online anywhere Cashiers du Cinema in english? I am so jealous cause my dad when he was younger could read every issue since Andrew Sarris used to re-write the issues in english. Any info?','3ccec222d6cad78e450e5fa3cbfa7c4d',0,'','a8QnA6cJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2492,560,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053019956,1,0,1,1,1,1,'emily-1','Storm Over Asia','Mon 26 May 5pm / Barbican Theatre, Silk St, EC2\nYat-Kha: Storm Over Asia\nwww.barbican.org.uk/xbloc\n\nA live film soundtrack accompaniment like no other. Vsevolod Pudovkin&#8217;s 1928 silent masterpiece Storm Over Asia, savagely cut by Soviet censors, is restored to its full glory and presented with live music from Tuva&#8217;s most extraordinary band, Yat-Kha. Their punk and rock & roll attitude to Tuvan throat singing and traditional music perfectly match the innovative and dramatic approach of the film which contains remarkable and spectacular footage of life in Tuva and the Altai mountains. Unmissable.','516a4b22061be7439c22877161e84663',0,'','Jw8HfNr3',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2493,561,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053138339,1,0,1,1,1,1,'maris_888','High And Low (Kurosawa) question *spoiler*','What was the significance of Gondo (Mifune) lighting the killers cigarette right before the killer went to the hide out and was caught?\n\nWhen the detective said \"the real prize\" I had thought that Gondo had orchestrated the whole thing (which really doesn\'t make much sense) but after seeing the end.....\n\nHelp please\n\n','21d80ec5d89d07ba4e587f531cc3b534',0,'','Q9bFjBtM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2494,562,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053401547,1,0,1,1,1,1,'movies','Movie reviews by email?','A F-ree Gift in return for your help!\n\nHi.\n\nMani Sivasubramanian from TheEzineCenter.com here.\n\nI\'m working on a new project that also involves publishing  a set of high quality, informative and helpful email newsletters related to Indian-language movies.  I\'m looking to take this info-review ezine service to the\nnext level.\n\nRather than guess what people want, I decided to ask you - someone who is interested in movies and entertainment.\n\nAnd there\'s something more...\n\n==&gt; A FR-EE GIFT -- to say \'Thank you for your time\'!\n\nInterested?  Take the survey by sending email to\n\n   movie-survey@TheEzineCenter.com\n\nor visiting \n\nhttp://www.TheEzineCenter.com/movie-survey.htm\n\nThanks\n\nMani','725894dae61e6beebfc8b6564034b90e',0,'','dfcb4RJZ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2495,563,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053463889,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','The ending of Celine & Julie Go Boating','Has anyone seen this movie? So original and creative. Rivette is still the greatest. But can someome whose seen it explain the ending for me? After Celine & Julie run in the house and resucue the girl, they all eat the candy and end up back in the apartment. Then they all go boating, and then Julie is seen waking up and sees Celine running dropping her items along the way like the beginning. So was the whole movie her dream or was it that the mansion-melodrama was real and the candies brought them to the \"real world\". Sounds confusing but anyone who\'s seen the movie should know what I\'m talking about.','173d99ac671415496d5546608af9c945',0,'','zSd7ayHF',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2496,563,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053571508,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: The ending of Celine & Julie Go Boating','it\'s got to do with what was in that candy, psychadelics i\'d suggest,from memories of my youth the film was \"a long strange trip\" as was my youth! :)','446747a7dc88703c8a28d8764b6b88b0',0,'','tLPpmrYM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2497,563,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053677322,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: The ending of Celine & Julie Go Boating','Well I understand just fine about the candies and what they achieve, but the ending confuses me. Obviously not all films are meant to be completely understood (maybe Rivette inteded it this way) but I would like some insight into what the hell it all means.','0220fecd8ef893457f75049086b4d907',0,'','gvE5LAmc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2498,563,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054246730,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: The ending of Celine & Julie Go Boating','Well, it has distinct similarities with Alice in Wonderland- both the beginning and ending. The meanings are up to you (as in Mulholland Drive, which also reminded me a little of Celine and Julie), but there\'s certainly an implication it was a dream. Anyway, it\'s wonderful. ','154fc6839dfca22e0cbda1cb3e85810a',0,'','8sNk56cD',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2499,564,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053887776,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','The Altering Eye','Robert Kolker\'s book The Altering Eye is online now at\n\nhttp://www.otal.umd.edu/~rkolker/AlteringEye/\n\nI thought some of you might be interested in it.  It covers foreign cinema from the 50s to the 70s, with a heavy emphasis on neorealism and various new waves (France, Germany, Brazil, etc.).  I think this is a pretty wonderful book, although it might not be all that informative if you\'re already familiar with the overall terrain.  Still, it has my recommendation.        \n\nThe author also wrote A Cinema of Loneliness, a book with which some of you might be familiar.  ','db63308578733e898b55f939c99b8039',0,'','KkqmUyhs',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2500,565,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053931878,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bettlejuice','DO YOU KNOW LINO BROCKA?','have anyone seen LINO BROCKA\'s BAYAN KO?','22db761f43129091a4ecbf76695da4cd',0,'','vNbJjn8q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2501,566,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053933350,1,0,1,1,1,1,'wvq','Film Books','The summer is here, and consequently I have time to do some reading.  But I find that I never seem to know what film books are worth my time when I\'m wandering the stacks of the library here.  The problem is that I decide to read a book on, say, The New German Cinema, and I end up having to choose from twenty books about which I know next to nothing, and I don\'t really have time to read half of them until I find one that\'s worthwhile.  So I figure I\'ll pick the brains of the folks here.   \n\nWhat film books have you found especially interesting, enlightening, instructive, eye-opening, etc.?  I\'m willing to read about pretty much anything, though it would be nice if there was some chance that I\'d be able to find a good many of the films discussed in whatever is being recommended to me.  (But please don\'t be shy about recommending something something covering a relatively obscure area of the cinema, as I\'m willing to try and track things down.)     \n\nI\'ll also toss out some recommendations of my own.  I\'m sorry if most of these choices are fairly obvious, but I\'m not expert here.  \n\nHollywood from Vietnam to Reagan by Robin Wood.  (This is my personal favorite of the Wood books I\'ve read, although I also recommend Sexual Politics and Narrative film, a book I just picked up a few days ago, along with his books on Hawks and Hitchcock.)  \nThe Altering Eye by Robert Kolker.  (I posted a thread on this being available online, and I\'ll gladly recommend it to anyone interested in foreign cinema.)\nMovies as Politics by Jonathan Rosenbaum.  (These are really just reviews taken from the Chicago Reader, but they\'re all quite good.  I also recommend Placing Movies, which is more of the same and may be even better.)\nThe American Cinema:  Directors and Directions by Andrew Sarris.  (I\'m sure you\'re all familiar with this, but there it is.  Confessions of a Cultist is good as well, though I find I can only take so much of Sarris\' prose at one time.)\nThe New Wave by James Monaco.  (I\'m sure there are better books about Godard, Truffaut, Rivette, et al. out there, but I\'m not too familiar with the literature here.)\nItalian Cinema by Peter Bondanella.  (Again, I don\'t doubt that there are better works on this subject.  This did involve more than competent coverage of what I take to be the main figures, however.)\n\nAnd a pair of works on major filmmakers:\nFritz Lang:  Allegories of Vision and Modernity by Tom Gunning.  (Truly excellent coverage of about half of Lang\'s oeuvre.  There\'s a lot here that I don\'t agree with, but it\'s very thoughtful and intellectually stimulating.)\nJohn Ford:  The Man and His Films by Tag Gallagher.  (I\'ve been trying to acquaint myself with more of Ford\'s work, and I picked this up to help me through the process.  I think Mr. Gallagher may be trying to do a bit too much here--he tries to say something about nearly every extant Ford film as well as provide some helpful biographical facts.  This makes the book very informative but a tad thin in places, despite its nearly 500 pages.  Nevertheless, these are mild reservations, and I happily recommend this book to anyone interested in Ford.)\n\nI\'m sure I\'m forgetting some things, but that\'s what I can come up with at the moment.\n','c6f00576a5e1059474f3a0edbbb5eee6',0,'','HrMktNov',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2502,566,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1053945011,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Film Books','What little reading about film I have done has been rather selective (Fassbinder, Truffaut etc.), but I found Malle on Malle, ed. Philip French, really fascinating. The best thing one can say about a book on film is that it makes you want to go and watch some of the films it discusses, and I found this book to be one such. I highly recommend it if you can find a copy.\n\nAs for Malle\'s films they\'re more readily available in the US than the UK, but a DVD release for Le Souffle au Coeur, Lacombe Lucien etc. is overdue.','ec32297319b1eef092c60e27d41fdad0',0,'','T4c2SP5a',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2503,567,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054587072,1,0,1,1,1,1,'info-18','murder in a cinema','as a child I watched a film in which a member of a cinema audience was murdered, shot and the it was evetually discovered that the gun had been fired from the film but I cant remember what the film was called... anybody out there with a clue would be most gratefully received','9104c9aeb8a1913ca086d54d2288b86a',0,'','aCDzdVlc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2504,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054752849,1,0,1,1,1,1,'izzywar','Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','I live in the U.S. and just decided to start buying d.v.d\'s since my local video stores carry very few foreign films.  Most websites i went to don\'t carry most of the movies i am looking for either (nothing too obscure).  Any suggestions? ','9e0d16410931fd7b6c50559f9125e171',0,'','nbWqzYx9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2505,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054783782,1,0,1,1,1,1,'FF-jason','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','Try [url]www.facets.org[/url] -- they have a good selection.','595e0147b1d69e5960a20b1bbb39f1ce',0,'','T6PecWUo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2506,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054847466,1,0,1,1,1,1,'aviv71','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','I\'ve had good success with ebay.','1ce96d20150011e1799d7df321f795e7',0,'','M9JAsZXU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2507,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056164846,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kgordon','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','The czech movie house carries alot of movies..all czech though...at czechmoviehouse.com','739540eee470fa13307545208149032a',0,'','hkvR3YDC',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2508,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056185549,1,0,1,1,1,1,'oomingakus','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?',' The site to check for great prices and solid service is www.dvdplanet.com. If they don\'t have it, check www.facets.org. If that doesn\'t work, there\'s always eBay. Good luck.','c9a886ce24d93563ebb18c9cb9320d4a',0,'','Q6sF3DfU',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2509,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056206095,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kcpuden1','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','I order most of my DVD\'s from DVDPlanet, as I am a big fan of the Criterion line up, which is mostly made up of foreign films.  You can check out the Criterion site at :\nwww.criterionco.com\n\nI also order from DeepDiscount : www.deepdiscountdvd.com, not the greatest foreign line up, great prices, free shipping.\n\n3 good mostly Asian sites :\n\nHKFlix.com, good selection, though slow to ship\n\nwww.pokerindustries.com, usually a tad higher than HKFlix, but usually ship quicker\n\nus.yesasia.com, great prices, site is hard to navigate, haven\'t ordered from them yet, though in the Criterion Collection Forum, several people said this is a good site, ship quick, staff is helpful.\n\nNote, I\'m a big fan of Asian movies, currently Panaroma is releasing the Century of Asian cinema, the 3 asian mentioned sites, you can order the Century of Asian cinema movies, I currently have 24 eyes, Tragedy of Japan, Street of Love and Hope, etc.  If you like Asian cinema, you might want to look into these?\n\nwww.bensons-world.co.uk, British site, mostly Region 2 Pal format, if you have a multi system DVD, not a problem, I suggest you get a Malata 520, I got mine from HKFlix.com, they have several others, some less than $100.  I\'ve ordered from this site several times, I have Apu Trilogy, Dekalog, Time for Drunken Horses, etc.  All GREAT movies, the folks at this site are GREAT folks, they response to your questions, note prices are in British Pounds, will take credit card, ship all over the world, I recommend this site if you have the proper DVD player.  \n\nwww.machiaveldvd.com, Canadian site, some of the films are Region 1 or 0, get the multi system DVD, then you can order any of the selections here.  I\'ve purchased 2 \nLuis Bunuel films : The Young and the Damned (Los Olvidados) and The Criminal Life of Archibaldo de la Cruz.  Also, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (Great movie), Millennium Mambo (not great, but decent),  La Dolce Vita, etc.  Note, a lot of crap on this site as well, check them out, a lot of gems here, some of which I noted.  Site shows prices in Canadian dollars, US and Euro.  Ship everywhere, great service, the guy Mark is very helpful.\n\nI agree the Facets site is good, but they\'re prices are very high.\n\nThere are lots of other sites, but these are the ones I normally us and I\'m quite pleased with all of them.\n\nGood luck and welcome to the club!\n','319cb55178d1979f0bd182e5e602efc4',0,'','jd4FJsQe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2510,568,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056495018,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Best site to buy foreign film dvd\'s?','For British users here, MovieMail is surely best as you can rent as well as buy by mail order. The rental system is indispensable. Years ago, i used to buy some from Mr Benson\'s (mentioned above) but this is a far better and more knowledgeable company, specialising in world cinema, though they do have all the stuff that\'s available in the UK. Check out their website (they do catalogues 2x year and regular newsletters, too, have some top writers, and one whose taste is flawless); http://www.moviem.co.uk','286fc1bd17de85b43b542d8f462a736e',0,'','lGKDRqJ2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2511,569,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054784896,1,0,1,1,1,1,'FF-jason','Mizoguchi films on video or DVD','Mizoguchi made over 50 films... and how many are available on video or DVD in the US/UK? Help me compile a list (including OOP) of everything that is out there. Consider this a first step towards action.\n\nList so far...\n- 47 Ronin (DVD)\n- The Sisters of Gion (VHS)\n- The Life of Oharu (VHS)\n- The Story of the Last Chrysantheum (VHS)\n- Sansho the Bailiff (VHS)\n- Street of Shame (VHS)\n- Ugetsu (VHS)\n- Osaka Elegy (VHS)\n- A Geisha (VHS) - OOP\n- Princess Yang Kwei Fei (VHS) - OOP\n\nMany thanks,\nJason','252a3600b3fc42d6706e20d499b8dd64',0,'','qYdciD9k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2512,569,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1054881079,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Mizoguchi films on video or DVD','\"New Tales Of The Taira Clan\" is available on VHS as i have a copy, choice it is!also a doco on the great man is out there.','a5890f307a8dbaf2a9265d7695458e1f',0,'','Zb7ELTn6',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2513,569,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055098790,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: Mizoguchi films on video or DVD','As only 4 are available in Britain, i had to get some of those listed above from France (with French subtitles)- including Miss Oyu, which is a beautiful neglected little gem. Sisters of the Gion, Street of Shame and Osaka Elegy are available in US, i understand; can anyone say if the videos will work on UK machines? Being in black and white i hope they will turn out o.k, as the French ones did.','b41e2c057504fc6b015142f48fde100b',0,'','x5rkyBhd',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2514,569,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055101756,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: Mizoguchi films on video or DVD','American NTSC videos are not compatible with British PAL VCRs. It is possible to convert them to PAL though if you can find somewhere to perform this task.','cc874f2f5bf7ff72f3ed59f0277f58ca',0,'','083JfRND',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2515,569,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057039651,1,0,1,1,1,1,'moviemaniac','Re: Mizoguchi films on video or DVD','For FF-Admin\n\ni m a fan of L\'Amant. Do you know where i can purchase and download the movie that starred Tony Leung & Jane March, from the internet without having to buy the DVD or VCD.\n\nYour advise and assistance are appreciated.\n\nCordially,\nmoviemaniac\nhttp://lamant.topcities.com\n','eda9e3266611ba97fa714bf21023693d',0,'','49dvnL3x',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2516,570,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055582969,1,0,1,1,1,1,'heartlander','The Lover: One of the Best Film I have the priviledge to watch','[img]http://lamant.topcities.com/tj.jpg[/img]\n\n\n[b][big][u]One of the best movie![/u][/big][/b]\n\n \nOohoowow, this is one of the best love story i have the priviledge to watch and one of the best movie ever produced.\n\nIt is erotic, passionate, zesty, reflective, cinematographic, haunting and a very tragic love story.\n\nThe movie is based on the semi-autobiography of one of the most famous French author, Marguerite Duras who passed away in 1996.\n\nI certainly disagree with several critics who did not hesitate to label the motion picture as \"shallow\" and \"nothing more than a soft-porno.\"\n\nThis is pretty obvious to me that the critics are \"literary\" blind to the story behind the story and message the author and the film director are trying to convey.\n\nJust because this movie contains scenes that are erotic with nudity, and passionate, it does not mean that the film is pornographic. That is shallow thinking and definitely reflective of someone who is \"literary\" blind. Moreover these literary blind critics need to know the historical background of life in French-ruled Vietnam and the general French attitude towards the Vietnamese and the Chinese in the 1920s and 1930s.\n\nTo paraphrase another fan of this movie, who observed that if this movie is a porno, it would not has been nominated for an Oscar and won an award from the mainstream French Cinema. I would add: it would be totally ignored by them.\n\nOne of my favourite erotic scenes in the movie was when the girl gradually pursed her lips on the glass window of the limousine for her lover.\n\nAnother favourite of mine is: the scene showing Jane and Tony slowly and hesitatingly held hands together in the limo.\n\nThe camera works that captured these two moments were extremely well done. These two scenes were so erotic, my heart nearly skips a beat. To do justice to this movie, one really needs to watch it, to believe what I have just described here.\n\nThe Story:\nThis is a movie about a teenage girl who was physically and emotionally abused by her mother and elder brother. She felt unable to control her predicament.\n\nShe sought solace and control through her passionate affair with a wealthy Chinese man (actor Tony Leung) from Cholon.\n\n\nThe affair is tragic from the beginning because of the cross-cultural conflict experienced by the two lovebirds. \n\nOn one hand, there was the French social restrictions about relationships with the \"inferior\" race of Vietnamese and the Chinese. On the other hand, it was about the Chinese tradition of arranged marriages.\n\nThe question is: Did she eventually love him?\n\nHere are the words of Duras:\n\"Among all the other nights upon nights, the girl had spent that one on the boat....when it happened, the burst of Chopin.... There wasn\'t a breath of wind and the music spread all over the dark boat, like a heavenly injunction whose import was unknown, like an order from God whose meaning was inscrutable. And the girl started up as if to go and kill herself in her turn, throw herself in her turn into the sea, and afterwards, she wept because she thought of the man from Cholon and suddenly she wasn\'t sure she hadn\'t loved him with a love she hadn\'t seen because it had lost itself in the affair like water in (the) sand and she rediscovered it only now, through this moment of music......\"\n\nBy the way, the Chopin music did played in the movie.\n\n\nReview by MovieManiac\n[url]http://lamant.topcities.com[/url]\n\n','322dbabd819e04da9ecb9858dbe1ae47',0,'','4sAcGvbz',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2517,570,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057056020,1,0,1,1,1,1,'moviemaniac','Re: The Lover: One of the Best Film I have the priviledge to watch','One of my favourite erotic scenes in the movie was when the girl gradually pursed her lips on the glass window of the limousine for her lover.\n\nAnother favourite of mine is: the scene showing Jane and Tony slowly and hesitatingly held hands together in the limo.\n\nThe camera works that captured these two moments were extremely well done. These two scenes were so erotic, my heart nearly skips a beat. To do justice to this movie, one really needs to watch it, to believe what I have just described here.','0b496b8d5560290c0444d7685e71b33a',0,'','8Ye4qKFQ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2518,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055887053,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','YMDB','Your Movie Database is a site on which users submit their top 20 films. It is in sore need of enhancement, as it\'s awash with recent (often silly macho) Hollywood stuff and lists with a decent international range are a relative rarity. If it\'s dispiriting to realise a large number of users seem to believe films began in the last 10 years, the site does at least automatically create an affinity list of the 5 users with the most similar selection to your own, so you will come across some like-minded and intelligent individuals, from any country.\n\nNot a substitute for these boards, of course, but i always like to see the best international films being highlighted and promoted!','9b218cdd38e767610053b214b2862f30',0,'','ZndXms8k',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2519,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055888867,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: YMDB','I quite agree. The majority seem to rate Freddy Got Fingered rather more highly than Bergman or Tarkovsky, but let\'s not expect miracles. If anyone\'s interested to see how the thing works, my own list is here:\n\n[url]http://ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=6040&ce=y[/url]','fe9846f5101bc04b34396a008322f052',0,'','8yzBPjs9',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2520,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055946007,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: YMDB','I found i\'d commented on your list without knowing your identity here. Your #1 affinity guy used to frequent these boards. You\'re not Welsh, as well are you?','56b2934bbb6c3a212025342958cb8948',0,'','MgrPyqjc',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2521,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056002059,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: YMDB','Those yanks need an education boys as the site appears to be a Pig-Out for testosterone fuelled 20 somethings!i remember those days but i still loved foreign films regardless..cheers chas','c0f5b83fa478a7733c4523cef73d0bfb',0,'','mPgc0qt4',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2522,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056165239,1,0,1,1,1,1,'kgordon','Re: YMDB','Hey, I\'m a yank here, and what gets me mad is that when I try to get a European movie..primarily Czech ones..I have to search through tons of crappy american ones first..and then never find any good Czech ones..And when you go to rent a movie in the Czech Republic, it is 80% American movies..10% German movies, 8% other, and 2% Czech..about 10 movies..I would hate to blame my own country for replacing great foreign flicks..but to even think they would take a place away on a shelf for a classic to put a Tom Green movie there, just sickens me.','221fcae6ff95c67a25a8cfc9bebe365c',0,'','sqdrJoaX',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2523,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056422440,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: YMDB','Yes we have that problem in OZ as well,so i joined ACMI (the biggest film library in OZ)now i get to see a lot of stuff & they order in requests,video shop owners are businessmen not film buffs in the main.','07893a228d82b2603fb8262433748e1e',0,'','Xg8QmEUp',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2524,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056473791,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: YMDB','i have heard of YMDB from this message and i should say that it is a great site which is truly \"personal\", i have already arranged my top20list have a look: http://www.ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=9292','051ec6cf92b794cf359f3f208731d9a8',0,'','gEnWtjqY',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2525,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056494403,1,0,1,1,1,1,'john-5','Re: YMDB','It\'s recently had problems with some redneck racists and troublemakers- i find it hard to understand why some users seem to get their main daily pleasure from filling boards with bile and hatred, trying to cause disruption, and it happens elsewhere too. But some extra deleting facilities promise better things.','f88abd08063a8a1e0b33699dd37439f5',0,'','uyYABzU7',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2526,571,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056595267,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: YMDB','i  think it is the people who voted for the fight club as best movie,which to me is a major worry,oh well \"you can\'t educate mugs\"','306db740af4857ae87a1bc680deda2fe',0,'','QhZ7ikMo',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2527,572,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055902533,1,0,1,1,1,1,'nsohn','The Horseman On The Roof by Rappeneau (could you tell me...?)','A film by Rappeneau \" The Horseman On The Roof.\" \nCould you tell me if my DVD has some missing parts in scene 19?\nBeginning of the scene 19, soon after the marquis (Pauline de Theus’s husband) appears on his horse on the hill, eyes of the two (marquis and Angelo) seem to meet, and then there’s dark blank screen for a few second, then scene changes to Pauline writing a letter \"Dear Angelo…\" \nIs there supposed to be something else between these scenes?\nThank you.\n\nNicholas','93e9910817df4499125ec90d87bb6266',0,'','ciCYXolP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2528,573,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055948493,1,0,1,1,1,1,'em_stenson','women and film','I interested to hear people view on women and their role in the film industry','492eb7ed6797c05510ab70af69f3d948',0,'','RE4LasfS',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2529,573,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057047711,1,0,1,1,1,1,'moviemaniac','Re: women and film','Hi Emily\n\nWhich roles in the film industry? This is bcos women can play many roles in the industry, such as: film-making, editing, directing, acting etc, etc.\n\ni hv come across many women who fulfill these roles such as film-makers, Kathleen Kennedy, Penny Marshall who also directs in movies, director, Cindy Williams, and countless other actresses. \n\nWomen\'s role in filmaking and directing are significant as these roles provide alternative perspectives to the stories.   Perspectives that and different from the male counterparts\' point of views.\n\nFemale perspectives have the typical signatures of grace, femininity and sensitivities to the relationships of the characters in the stories.\n\nIn that sense, women must try not to comply to be the same like the men.\n\nCordially yours\nmoviemaniac\n[url]http://lamant.topcities.com[/url]\n\n\n\n','029d41d524ef80c45ee9dd0bc44e8f55',0,'','vDW3yUAH',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2530,573,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057048014,1,0,1,1,1,1,'moviemaniac','Re: women and film','Hi again Emily\n\ni also hv a friend whom i met through the internet. She is involved in film editing. \n\ni hv found her to be highly intelligent, sensitive and very knowledgeable about many things in life and not just about films.\n\nCordially yours\nmoviemaniac\nMy site: [url] http://lamant.topcities.com [/url]\nYou are most welcome to join and contribute your views about women\'s roles in film industry.','bd100613639165f506fd6a2116c20063',0,'','BoZq3Ywg',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2531,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055948560,1,0,1,1,1,1,'em_stenson','jane campion','WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THE FEMALE DIRECTOR JANE CAMPION','8cdf365986a154ab31cf53ae5bade606',0,'','NZg61Ht2',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2532,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1055984055,1,0,1,1,1,1,'Gaz','Re: jane campion','WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS I WASN\'T A BIG FAN OF THE PIANO','9bf4c9f1731ebcce6177e4c2bc2ab525',0,'','SEyDidsq',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2533,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056007512,1,0,1,1,1,1,'auteur','Re: jane campion','I like everything she\'s done, but the made-for-tv AN ANGEL AT MY TABLE is my favorite. Kerry Fox is stellar.','9b4e90200f0133d40e4121a044da3aa0',0,'','QHNMEfkV',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2534,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056153228,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: jane campion','The Piano was a fantastic film, but overrated. I agree that Campion\'s best films is still \"The Angel at my Table\". If you doubt Ms. Campion at all, see this masterpiece; which topped most critics\' Ten Best lists when it came out.','37d92a830857e65bd7bf5823b55119c7',0,'','3JvlUhK0',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2535,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057595150,1,0,1,1,1,1,'paredes','Re: jane campion','It\'s true; The Piano is the most visually exciting and deserves to be as popular as it is, but An Angel At My Table has brilliant writing and is so fascinating for three hours straight.  REally emotionally satisfying too.','ddcc3fbcd4e68016394ee5ce4c9e44b4',0,'','Wj1TqSE5',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2536,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057673752,1,0,1,1,1,1,'pre-tender','Re: jane campion','well well well...\nThe Piano is on my top list. Holly Hunter gave her best and probably the best performance from some one who has nothing to say with her tongue but with her face ! can u imagine how hard to play that role? Hunter is so brave to accept and to play it at the top-notch quality. Also score of The Piano will make those who even hate piano-sound like it forever...Also it has great cinematography ( re-see that scene on the shore)...So impressiive-so touching story...\nBravo Campion, i m seeking her other films to see and i m sure i will like them all cos u may feel \"the female touch\" in her films...','d99aa2c06bddee62663194cf730f5d2f',0,'','tPGJ8iCM',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2537,574,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057896296,1,0,1,1,1,1,'hindragal33','Re: jane campion','\"Sweetie\" is my favorite; less melodramatic than \"The Piano\" and more in touch with her surreal shorts.  If you like David Lynch\'s work, you\'d probably like \"Sweetie.\"  What has Campion doe lately?','a80ef442bce24eb58cdc78d81629f79b',0,'','XvP2n3Ds',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2538,575,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056059734,1,0,1,1,1,1,'mouse','Realm of the senses','Masterpiece or Mastermess???What do you think???','7014595fa041e235e1055ed48617d5fb',0,'','virQ2sEl',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2539,575,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056153105,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Realm of the senses','One of those films that one should see mostly for the shock of it, but I found it boring and pretentious. Doesen\'t really stick in your mind and gnaw at your head like great films.','ecf8f1df072d60af2e00b51d06a6e698',0,'','gNEycf5l',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2540,575,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056422770,1,0,1,1,1,1,'gratefultiger','Re: Realm of the senses','Brilliant film\'sensuous the music & sets help,funny too a hell of a lot better than some recent efforts,i still like it after all these years,as for not sticking in the mind maybe my memory is better than yours as there are some unforgettable scenes,one put me off hotdogs for a while.:)','3cd4b8a2d5a91e2aa09b788844bfa540',0,'','d9sj6r58',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2541,576,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056134617,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','I think I\'ve worked out what Dancer In the Dark is all about','SPOILER\n\nI think that Dancer In the Dark looks at the Hollywood-isation of culture, through the musical segment of the film, intentionaly bad diologue and as a theme that runs through all other parts of the story. It then ends up critasising Hollywoodisation by attaching it to Bjork\'s death. So there\'s a huge irony in the fact that Bjork is the only non-American character in the film. It\'s almost as if Von Trier thinks of Hollywood as a virus that spreads to all corners of the globe. \n\nMost of Bjork\'s actions in the film can be linked to Hollywood. At the end of the film she sacrafices her life to save her son\'s sight, just like Humpfrey Bogard at the end of Casablanca of Michael Bein in The Terminator, both of home make sacrafices to save the people they love. It seems that Von Trier is synical towards this sort of martordom and suggests that Bjork, although victimised, is still responsible for the film\'s tragedy. It\'s as if her decision to give away her life was inspired by the movies. \n\nThe film also suggests a method for the improvement of Hollywood, saying that it needs to have a grasp on reality by contrasting the dogme-esque style of the main part of the film with the audacity of the musical numbers. \n\nSo anyway, try and ignor my previous comments on Dancer In the Dark as they were written at a time when I didn\'t have a clue what it was about. Dancer In the Dark is NOT pro-musical.','4a34b97ef9bf0ff7ba12d4b36de1878e',0,'','SRrjcWpP',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2542,576,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056151533,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: I think I\'ve worked out what Dancer In the Dark is all about','Dancer in the Dark is something...the worst deciscion for the Palm D\'or in the history of Cannes. ','5049d8723c1e28797bd531574a4b390e',0,'','V6715Gpe',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2543,577,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056152991,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Jean-Pierre Jeunet & Audrey Tatou reunite...','Some good news for us Amelie freaks (I know I ain\'t the only one). Jean Pierre Jeunet\'s next film is gonna be a WW2 romantic drama starring Audrey Tatou featuring one of  the highest budgets in the history of French cinema. Read the whole article here:\n\nhttp://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,979929,00.html\n','4e45a83cb69a206229a9ae6f8197b38e',0,'','b1l4zseT',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2544,577,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056217023,1,0,1,1,1,1,'HenryGinsberg','Re: Jean-Pierre Jeunet & Audrey Tatou reunite...','Sounds interesting\nhttp://us.imdb.com/Title?0344510','d09fe6105761d35d9aed1f1194e8e13d',0,'','8JwuxK9q',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2545,577,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1056396519,1,0,1,1,1,1,'thegreatken1','Re: Jean-Pierre Jeunet & Audrey Tatou reunite...','Some reunion.  I need some time off and go see Audrey Tatou in \"L\'Auberge Espagnole\".','95337db48aa71f450e9228825673a2b3',0,'','4jLETXFJ',1,0,'',0,0,0),(2546,577,3,1,0,'69.120.114.47',1057220942,1,0,1,1,1,1,'bigpoppa_2059','Re: Jean-Pierre Jeunet & Audrey Tatou reunite...','I went to see that thinking she was the star...but she\'s hardly in it! Maybe you\'ll like it, but I thought it was annoying and cliched. Any other thoughts on L\'Auberge Espagnole?','831041833e2ff8a97d053135c61e8702',0,'','5qKkJuX2',1,0,'',0,0,0),