What's up Curt?  I have to disagree with you on a few things.  You stated in your previous post that movies should be fun to watch.  I can take that as an opinion statement, as in your opinion.  When I watched the South Park movie with several male friends over many cold beers I set out to watch a fun movie.  But when I watched Citizen Kane for the first time, or any of the other few times I've seen it, I never expected it to be fun.  I expected it to be a serious film and I took it as such, which I'm sure you attempted to do to.  You said Citizen Kane didn't entertain you, so be it.  I guess entertainment is like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder.  I wouldn't rank CK as my no.1 but I certainly enjoyed it.  Conversely, you listed Scarface at the top of your list and I got very little if any entertainment from it.  But one of the last things you said about the reason we all watch films is to be entertained.  That is not true at all and I'll give you an example.  Keep in mind I am only speaking for myself and am not trying to make some sort of blanket statement for a segment of other film fans.  I was a History major in college, so when I watched say, Leni Riefenstahl's 'Triumph of the Will', not for school, years later, I watched for the express purpose of learning and not to be entertained.  I in fact love documentaries.  In the end when they are over if they were done well, you were both educated and entertained, but I often go into a film looking to get something other than entertainment out of it.  You mentioned that you like Japanese cinema.  There are a few Japanese films that if you didn't like Citizen Kane, I'm sure you probably wouldn't like these either, but the message you will take away from them will stay with you for life.  If you can find a copy, and want to try and sit thru it(again, apparantly it won't be to your liking), watch Ozu's Tokyo Story.  If you can watch that movie and come away with nothing then you my friend are a true man of stone.