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yes he had....and normally does a good job.  With help from several other guys.  Well...our deep pit crew has slowly quit coming to church.  He was the only one left.  That coupled along with some personal problems he has going on led to the disaster.  I think next year we will go back to cooking the turkeys in the oven.  Even though they are delicious it&#39;s a worry every year when we bring them out of the pit if they will be done or not.