Thanks Tonia, Jenn and Rose for the explanation and advice about the coffee grounds.  By the way Jenn, we could be so lucky to grow rhodo&#39;s and camilia&#39;s here in Florida - that&#39;s not going to happen&#33;&#33;  But I&#39;m going to save my grounds and see how they help my Sago palm and other plants.<br /><br />Rose, those popcorn ceilings are awful - I don&#39;t envy you that job&#33;&#33;<br /><br /><br />