<br /><br />Steve:  I&#39;ve have a factory installed GPS in the car, which I can already tell you is not as good as the portable I just got.  Picked up the portable to use in rental cars on our upcoming trips.  Lexus wanted  &#036;300 to update my maps plus labor.  I don&#39;t think so.  <img src="http://www.cruisecrazies.com/community/images/forum/tr-emoticons/thumbdown.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbdown:" border="0" alt="thumbdown.gif" />  In the meantime I&#39;m having fun playing with the Garmin.<br /><br />As I&#39;m typing this I&#39;m ripping John Grisham&#39;s <i>The Appea</i>l into my mp3 player.  Ten discs with 12 hours and 34 minutes of audio.  That should keep me entertained on our upcoming trip to New Jersey, Florida and aboard the Carnival Valor.<br /><br />Later,<br /><br />